I love CRPGs/turn-based strategy/roguelites/etc. but what the fuck is up with this overblown overwritten combat system man, half the skills don't even feel meaningful, especially the fucking Operative, what a shit fucking class.Am I being filtered or is this just bad game design?
I just remember the game being piss easy and the combat system unremarkable.
I’m not 100% sure but I think they just ripped the mechanics from the 40k tabletop RPG (which is a thing)
>>729643940If there were no season passes, dlc, pay to get a hero shit I Would buy this game, but they decided to make a cancerous marketing decision.
>>729643940Owlcat CRPG's are embarrassingly bad and there is no reason to play them when you have literal decades worth of old CRPG's to play.
>>729644016I beat act 1 and yeah on normal the combat has been mostly a breeze, still don't get why there's so much unecessary "complexity" that is basically meaningless.
>>729644083I think their games are pretty good myself and hold up well compared to old CRPGs.
>>729644083I played all the crpgs in existence though (I've been unemployed for 30 years)
>>729644096If you up the difficulty it becomes meaningful. Obviously if everything is already easy you dont need to delve into the system
>>729644083I love Owlcat games, to each their own.
>>729643940>especially the fucking OperativeWhat's your problem with it? I thought Operative was quite interesting.
Operative is ok
>>729644372the fucking analyse/expose tokens are so fucking boring, click three things, shoot your 95% sniper, move on.maybe it gets better later on but in act 1 it was the most fucking tedious one to play by far.
Operative needs setup in a game where combat is done by second turn
>>729644665Have you at least got your second active ability already? It seems that you are complaining too soon. A lot of an operative's potential is only unlocked when you get to the second class.
>>729643940The Pathfinder games even worse. It's just Owlkeks style
>>729643940Thanks for reminding me of this, I've been meaning to pick it up. Just finished a new playthrough of BG3, looking for another turn-based CRPG and it's still winter sale
>>729645132Remember to pick all the DLC too
>>729644031I hate that shit myself buuuuut picking up these games five years later with all DLC for like 5 bucks is always fucking great, I picked up XCOM2 WOTC a week ago finally and have been HAVING A FUCKING BLAST, absolutely love the WOTC content and the "kings"/"rulers" whatever the fuck they're called. So much dynamic shit bolted on that kept getting introduced every few missions, and I thought X1 EW was already PEAK.
>turn 1>argenta fires her bolter 58 times at 95% accuracy, each shot doing maximum possible damage rollI'm not sure what the combat system in this game actually is, because I rolled the game on "Normal" with that one character while everyone else just sort of cheered her on. There was some sort of final boss battle against a chaos guy but argenta just killed him in one turn and then everyone shrugged and carried on. The hardest part of the game was that moment in commoragh where your party is split up and you don't have any gear.
>>729643940Games funI love it
>>729645832thanks for reminding me this game exists, looks like its actually finished and all the DLC are out now, so its finally time to buy it for 90% off lmaooo
>>729643940My operative kicks ass you prob just made a bad build. It took me awhile to make argenta even mediocre so i probably made a bad build, other people claim argenta is great. Had to give her a new weapon type, bolter was trash, never hit.My guy gets massive highly accurate long range single target damage, massive debuffs on enemies, action economy to shoot way more extra shots than should be allowed and benefits greatly from an officer giving extra ap and shots.
>Operator Wonder if owlcats will bother to add the new bodypart aiming from DH to RT
>playthrough 1>do act 1>go to the place w refugees>go to janus>get bored and play something else. Forget where i was and what i was doing>playthrough 2>make slightly better build choices, speed clear to place w refugees>objective go to 3 planets>instead of janus, go to factory world with crazy chaos machine and big fucking fat guy>repeat janus>explore space>put game down>forget where i was and what i was doingThe great filter
>>729646861No fucking way
>>729647012>2 more RT DLCs guaranteed on the way, another two more allegedly mentioned in a steam by a devWe'll see
>>729643940>he got filtered by RT of all thingsLMAOyou nu/v/lings wouldn't survive Kenabres in WOTR
>>729645132>BG3playing an actual cRPG will break your brain and you will end up making threads like thesestick to your normieshit hollywood quipslop with autocombat
>>729647217it's not about being filtered, the game is probably the easiest CRPG i've played on normal, it's just kinda... not fun combat-wise, I don't even mind steamrolling enemies in other turn-based games, but at least the combat systems there are more fun.
>>729643940Operative into Executioner is good but boring, that much is true. Goes well with psykerism.>>729647314Dumb nigger, you haven't played either.
>>729647385>BG3>"I take the Attack action.">resolves literally every single encounter in the game, no matter the difficulty because 5E was made for people with room temp IQ to enjoyRT at least requires you to stack modifiers and press more buttons (even if that is just your Officer giving your AM/Executioner an extra turn to 1shot everything on the encounter)and the Pathfinder games require actual builds
>>729647581Buff stacking is faggoty bullshit and has no place in RPGs.
>>729647690sorry sweety you WILL cast 30 buffs before any encounter and you WILL like it
>>729647581>buff stacking simulator>chaff cleaning simulator>actual buildsand you call bg3 an auto-battler? you niggers really are shameless, don't make me laugh
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>>729646198yeah get it asap, shit's fucking golden, actually makes me curious if Marvel Midnight Suns bullshit is any good, combat system seems unique at the very least.
>>729643940definitely bad game design, owlcat thought people enjoyed bloat because kingmaker and wotr were successful
>>729643940Operative isn't 'shit' necessarily, but it just feels so unneeded to fuck around with debuffs/exploits when you can just stomp the fuck out of your opponents with Soldier/Vanguard/Bladedancer/Navigator/OfficerThey tried to provide variety, but everyone very quickly found the best skills/classes
>>729648048Midnight Suns is in fact very good; much easier than XCOM, but enjoyable (and characters are actually written like their comic book equivalents if you're into that)
>>729647314You don't actually play CRPGs you faggot
>>729644031Shit taste, the fact that now games can receive proper support post release instead of being abandoned is great
>>729643940>luck into the right character build (or use a guide)>game is easy>don't do that>it's hard
>>729647314>Buzz buzz buzzBusy little bee parroting the words of others, cmon anon at least TRY to make a coherent, well thought out sentence of your own.
>>729649505>warrior/executioner arbites with a shield>insane mobility with the shield rush that can be used to get ahead>destroys everything on higher levels with late game gear>give pasqal the overseer class with the servo skulls because it fits him being a tech priest, without looking into it>he ends up much weaker than all the other party membersThe skulls are pointless even if you have the skills that benefit from the redistribution ability, because they're slow as shit and can't keep up with the highly mobile melee fighters, the radius is incredibly small and there's no way to increase it, and all the feats improving it feel pointless.
>>729649467that's not support, that's just them releasing an unfinished game
