Incredible, there is not a single good arpg game on the market.
Diablo 4 is good but Asmongoldbots are programmed to hate it.
>>729645806>Diablo 4 is good
Wow, another thread where PooE and Diablo 4 cucks will pretend their live service crap isn't garbage.Just play Grim Dawn.
>>729645752PoE devs are so fucking bad, but they're somehow less bad than every other fucking dev.All ARPG devs have no fucking clue what players want (which, to be fair, most players are retards that don't know what they want).
>>729645861Why did Blizzard think that niggers play Diablo?
>>729645861>optional cosmetic microtransactions are bad!Then do yourself a favor and never ever try Path of Exile 1 or 2.
just play project d2
>>729645979>b-b-but path of exile
>>729645861PoE2 has everything in that image too.
>>729646032>b-b-but PoE2
>>729645861>whips out a credit card and buys 50 stash tabs for Path of Incel
>>729645979Yes, a multi-million company putting MTX garbage into their full-price product is bad.
>>729646027Ah yes, Last Epoch, that game turned out real good because it had more abilities.
They added a new class right? Is it any fun and worth coming back for?
Guys don't talk shit about Diablo 4It's the perfect video game lmao
>>729646114keep samefagingyour game is literally the worst arpg on the marketin fact it's literally worse than Wolcen
>>729646120d4 is a real blur of garbage past act1, you can tell they stopped trying after the open beta content
>>729646118nothe druid basically only has 1 build per form
>>729646027I am trying to think if I'd rather play D4 or Last Epoch again.Last Epoch seems fucked due to being on unity. The game still feels bad to move around in and it has been out for like 2 years.Diablo 4 feels good to play, it is just a very shallow experience.I mean PoE1/2 mog both, but I guess I'd play LE over D4.
>>729645895>grim dawnarpg with stupid design that makes poe looks a little bit better
>>729645752Grim Dawn but it doesnt work with the ADHD riddled retards that play Path to go zoom zoom
>>729646208isn't that true for every character
Path of Exile 1 was good. Too bad they decided to kill it in order to scam people with PoE2 paid early access. That's Tencent for you.
>>729645752>Incredible, there is not a single good arpg game on the market.all the old ones are still there althoughbeit
>>729645895GD is almost almost good
>>729646000Checkedhowever it's boring, way too ez and maps are somehow duller than normal D2 farming
reminder that if you ever see an identifiable man suggesting you play grim dawn immediately block him because he is either a transunc, a terminally ironic retard or a literal shit eater
>>729646082Yes we are in a PoE2 thread. Are you lost?
>>729645752Who even is that guy on the cover supposed to be?The player character?I played the game when it first became available with the 3(?) acts I think and don't remember a character like that appearing at any point.
>>729646393kind of yes but it's way worse with druid since the skills are split between forms
>>729647297>guy who only plays pooe or "diablo" 4 calls someone a shit eaterOh no no no no no
>>729645752Bear and werewolf felt good to play but I just couldn't play through the campaign again, it's such a goddamn slog. I managed to get half-way through act 2 before realizing I have the entire act 3 (the worst part of the campaign) and act 4 left before lategame (which they still haven't fixed yet), so I dropped itMaybe I'll come back in 0.5 IF they fix the lategame, otherwise I'm waiting for 1.0
>>729647652>terminally ironic retardhere is one example
>>729647026>and mapsNothing has ever ruined a genre so much as the concept of endgame.
>>729645752>game is a hate letter to fans
>>729645806D4 is fun for one playthrough and then after that the seasons last you a couple weeks of fun before things get boring again. It's not as bad as Asmon thinks it is, but POE2 has its own problems. Mostly though this whole genre is just not something you can get the same thing out of as you did when you were 14. Doesn't work.
>>729645752>there is not a single good arpg game on the market.Not so fast
>>729647769Yeah, once was enough for me, wouldn't mind playing if I could start at maps.
>>729645895>Release date: After the heat death of the universe
>>729647970This could actually finally make it good if the new difficulty is fun/challenging. Currently Ultimate is too ez once you know the basics, and SR/cruci are just boring.
>>729646196But act 1 was the worst one? Act 2 is kino. Not a fan of the elias chasing but the final act is also easily the best out of all base game diablos. The final charge through caldeum and into hell was kino.
>>729648023ehh due to how scaling works I don't think that's possible, so wait for GD2hopefully it won't be a PoE2 situation
Helltides and so on are so much better than PoE2's maps. I have really started to hate PoE2's hard for the sake of hardness philosophy.
>>729645895>Just play Grim Yawn.No thanks.
>>729645806D4 is better nowadays, but it was fucking horrendous at launch.There's still ways to go to even catch up with the other ARPGs though.
Diablo 4's story is fine. I don't get the hate for it. I actually like it more than PoE2 (which is admittedly unfinished but eh).
>>729648226>PoE2's hard for the sake of hardness philosophyit's what people wanted, actuallypeople wanted a "hard, difficult game with meaningful combat where you can't clear the map with a click"turns out people don't actually want that and it's just the unemployed 0.01% turboautists
>>729648338If you want to press one button and win 100% of the time, just go play gachashit.
>>729648338I don't have a problem with that, except it doesn't really have that. It has it for some of the campaign, especially if you suck, but the campaign is fucking boring after the first few times, and to me is a lot more tedious than poe1's campaign, which was already a big reason I don't bother playing most leagues. Then in endgame it's back to zoomzoom. So they failed in multiple ways (assuming someone wanted le slower gameplay).
>>729645752Poe, PoE2, epoch, torchlight 2If you don't like any of these you don't enjoy arpgs
>>729648394>make a game with combos, mechanics that interact with each other>'tists like you just make builds to make the game play identically to poe1 and run around at mach 3 one clicking the entire screen
>>729648325I actually find it the best out of all diablos, or well maybe except Diablo 2 because that game is the codifier for diablo lore. It's so refreshing coming from the saturday morning narrative of diablo 3. Vessel of Hatred is also pretty good, if not a bit TOO long and if you hate Neyrelle, it can be unbearable. Thankfully diablo 4 allows you to skip the campaign and just jump into end game. PoE2 should do the same and let us jump through maps immediately. With the addition act 4 and interlude, every season is such a slog. Especially since you have to grind out ascendancies too.
>>729648430quite a lot of people have pointed out that PoE2 has schizo game design and it tries to make like 3 incompatible ideas work simultaneously
>>729648430You ARE the zoomzoon, anon. The campaign should feel long and meaningful but you just want to zoomzoom maps
>>729648321>>729648325Honestly glad I tried it after 2 years. Seems like a golden rule for most games nowadays since most release versions are such shitshows.
>>729648447but i can do both in diablo 3 and both work
>d4 and path of exile 2 players defending their shit always online games
>>729648574I won't touch it before the new skill tree rework drops.It's amazing to me they thought that skill tree was acceptable in this day and age.
>>729648662but the trading and the leagues bro, the community and trading, the leagues and races, bro
>>729648668>skill tree>look inside>it's literally a straight line
>>729648662Both games are psuedo mmos/live service games. Especially PoE. Just wait for TQ2 if you want a one and done ARPG.
>>729648747Worse yet, all the skill variations and nodes are completely useless because they just add a % on top of another % of it maybe doing more damage.
>>729648747It's more less like Diablo 2's skill tree. Can't believe people used to shit on D3's skill runes when it offered a ton of experimentation.
>>729648945Some change its mechanics but nothing as crazy as d3 where you can change their element or make an missile orb into a damaging aura.
>>729648971D2 boomers won't move forward ever.
>>729648971desu d2 skill tree has almost no mechanical purpose apart from wasting a handful of skill pointsand it looks kinda nice
>>729649113It's funny because Diablo 4 has a ton of memberries down to reoccuring d2 npcs and music. Like the tristram, khurast and rogue encampment d2 music plays multiple times in the game. It would have been soulful if not for the fact that it's made by nublizzard.
Torchlight 2 Adventure Mode is fun
Every time I play one of these type of games I end up going through the campaign thinking alright this isn't bad, but there's something missing. Because it's either too easy or too hard. There's never an in-between. Then I get to the so-called endgame and I realise what a pile of shit I'm playing.
>PoE1>grognard's paradise, a bloated carcass of literally 200 systems, unfortunately is still the pinnacle of ARPGs>PoE2>the legendary designers behind Path of Exile decided to take the worst aspects of every ARPG released and call it Path of Exile 2>Grim Dawn>punches far above its weight considering the studio consists of about 4 people and the budget is nonexistent, doesn't try crazy shit and is overall a very consistent experience with good build variation, definitely the #2>Diablo 2>it's the BW of ARPGs - some people say that it's the best thing ever made, some say that it's time to move on, grandpa>Diablo 3>it's Torchlight. that's it>Torchlight>it's Diablo 3. that's it>Diablo 4>what if we really wanted to make a Diablo MMO but didn't have enough resources to actually make it one? oh I know, let's halfass everything and call it a day>The Last Epoch>interesting ideas, botched execution, and now its future is sealed after selling themselves
>>729649196Yeah D4 is basically the D2 skilltree done right, but if you hate D2 then you won't like D4. Personally I'd like something inbetween D4 and PoE2. D4 is too simple and straightforward, but PoE2 just wastes your time with a bunch of shitty % nodes.
>>729645752Kenshi mogs that weird homeschool kid incelslopSimple SOVL TRVTH just absolutely destroys fake tryhard copiers of legend with no reality beyond the basis of what already exists for them to exploit into their fake cringe hippie not chill feraljak faggotrealmhttps://youtu.be/WfJQ4l5wbMk
>>729649302PoE's skill forest is an illusion because if you're playing a class, you will always beeline to a few select paths everytime. Sure there is nothing stopping you from wasting dozens of points just to make a melee sorceress but you are also just wasting your time and said build is probably just good for non end game maps.
>>729649298>>Diablo 3>>it's Torchlight. that's it>>Torchlight>>it's Diablo 3. that's itdid you even play torchlight and diablo 3?
>>729649379
>>729645979Bro gggeets are so retarded, thjey are so scared of blizzard, it's kinda funny.
>>729649409Metrosexual Detected.EXTERMINATEhttps://youtu.be/2ZANNt_uyvM
>>729645752poe2 was fun when it came out and it felt very novel and fresh, it just has no replayability value or end game. you can argue thats what makes a good arpg but if you view it as a 1 time single player experience then i feel like you get your moneys worth for the 30 hours of fun. its a perspective issue
>>729649407Por has actual skill variations though, ones that you can build yourself all the time.you can make any skill become ridiculous with the right support gems and then change it on the fly if you want.D4 skills are set in stone until you find an aspect that changes it specifically.
>>729647970i literally cant start the dlc, walking to the capital is so fucking boring holy shit
>>729649435Yugi got destroyed by the bisexual freak littlekuriboHis kino robbed. There are no meds for TRVTHC O P E
>>729645752path of exile 1 was fun during the endless delve races but they lasted like a week or two three times total 3 years ago. if only path of exile wasnt disgusting fucking live service goyslop i could just play the game i want but they will never ever bring it back because of tencent greed
>think im fiding a new cool arpg>roguelike slopindie dev's always make their shit roguelike because they don't have to try as hard to make a real game instead of a half hour loop
>>729649541Ugdenbog? I actually like that part, I hate Malmouth itself though.
>>729649538But you're not talking about the skill tree, you're talking about skill gems. I agree with that Anon the skill tree is just pointless fluff so that plebs can point to it and go>Woah 400 skills so complex 200 IQ D4 is for babies!
>>729647947Whats the name?
>>729649579Yeah, it's vastly easier to "balance" something when the player gets reset every 30 mins lul. Most rogueoids are super boring.
I will cleanse the world of normie gangstalkers who play this game.https://youtu.be/2ZANNt_uyvM>buh-buh-buhSilence, agent smithhttps://youtu.be/ySp-u9kWVaQ
>>729649639The skill tree in D4 are the skill gems in PoE2.Hell they even have a skill gem tree in PoE2.
I just realized, after spending 100 hours in PoE 2, that I don’t like seasonal games where you have to start from level 1 all over again.
> Visceral combathttps://youtu.be/4pSGx8XhCWY?si=T90CkzZ1_fgQgCVa&t=10
>>729649639poe gems are the skill tree though, the passive tree is just d2's str/dex/vit/energy with more variety
>>729649798Cucked Copygoyim
>>729649798but anon the campaign is heckin weighty and gruelling
>>729649639PoE2 has a passive tree, skill gem tree AND a support gem tree.D4 is miles behind it, Last Epoch and ironically D3.
The only thing I wish for d4 is that it would copy PoE2's more stylized ui and I'm good. Just played vessel of hatred and it has enough aztec kino levels to sate me for a while. I feared it wouldn't compare to poe2's grimdark vaal levels but it's just as good.
>The game is completely free and will never be pay-to-win.
>>729649975You know its fucked up when you managed to outjew blizzard. >Have to pay 300+ dollars if you want the supporter cosmeticsFuck you too GGG.
>>729649975>>729650019>4000 hours in and I've spent less money on stash tabs than I did when I went full retard to buy D4 only to uninstall it after 10 hourshmm...
>>729649653No Rest for the Wicked. very good game, still in EA
>>729649975Path of Exile is for goycattle.
>>729645752Non-90s people do not make games copying better 90s games and have opinions on such abominations.https://youtu.be/Vous7W8l00o
>>729650078Based
>>729647970Actually apparently open beta is at the end of january.
>>729649639The problem with D4 tree is that the skill you unlock at level 10 will be the same at max level, unless the best build uses an aspect for it.In PoE2 you can tinker with a new skill from the get go, either with support gems, items or passives.In D4 items don't do jackshit most of the time, or dictate your whole build, there's no freedom at all. Sure you can min max in PoE2, but there's way more room for experimentation even if it clears a few seconds slower. My problem with PoE2 right now is how the sorcerer feels completely gimped compared to other classes.
>>729650076At most you probably more or less spent min of 30 dollars to 50 dollars playing poe 2 vs d4's 60. But the thing is that the only thing you will be paying for in d4 is expansions and cosmetics with the latter being fully optional. Meanwhile PoE2 is built around being a live service mmo with a functioning player economy and you are really gimpinf your player experience by not busying a bunch of stash tabs, merchant tabs, skill tabs, and so on, which is gonna cost you a bit.
>>729650174sorc got hit with the nerfbat because literally 75% of the playerbase played only her (with other 20% being invoker)so instead of making the other classes stronger, they just nerfed her into the ground
>>729650174Yeah but that shit is just a tranny and gay moderation stealfag. https://youtu.be/QcJ1rclRBwU
>>729650251>>729650174I tried varashta this season and it's arguably sorcs best ascendancy. But I have run into an issue where the game just doesnt have enough buttons for her to press. She can combo with so many spells that 8 buttons is just isnt enough.
>>729645752>play early access beta product>WTF THIS IS FULL OF BUGS AND BALANCE ISSUES! tired of you retards
>>729650251They also made the class extremely dependant on combos.>Other class ice spells do damage + have a combo if you want>Sorcerer ice spell needs a combo to do damage and another combo to do real damage
>>729650251The best part is when the dust settles it always goes back to ranger spamming screen wide GMP/volley/whatever I dont play bows because I'm not a SISSYAnd GGG either thinks that this is perfectly fine or is utterly baffled at the fact that the meta always settles on the class fantasy with innately high move speed and the ability to shit 99 super fast projectiles all over the screen.
>>729650328If someone is selling a game then its a finished product>B-BUT MAH EARLY ACCESS!Fuck off.
>>729650328>implying core game design can change with patches
>>729650370>class fantasyyeah my fantasy is to be a dude with a hammer to get animation locked and 1shot
Path of Faggots
How do you get into POE2? I bought it at launch and I think got halfway into Act 2. Trying to find builds is suffering, websites make zero sense and they have you link back 3 different builds to get to that endgame build and the skill selections make no sense incorporating 4 different weapons sometimes for whatever reason. It just isn't fun to play when you spend more time trying to figure out what you're even supposed to attempt to do instead of... Just playing and looting. Even if you think you know what you're doing and you're experimenting, you can just find a YouTube video is somebody doing 80x the damage at half the level you are and instantly any motivation to play is gone.Yeah I got filtered I guess. No other ARPG has this problem for me. I just wanted to play Spear girl and stab things, but 3 hours in I'm not enjoying it. It got so bad I bought Diablo 2 again just to actually play a game.
>>729650463Path of Extremely Tranny
>>729650427Yeah its funny that their notional insistence backfires so badly.Grim dawn has really good class fantasy. Between the dual classing, damage conversion, and just general absolute maddening number of MIs, epics, and legendaries, you can make an end game viable build out of any "class fantasy".Hope they buff salazar's sword though, I just tried to make a build that focused on that because it looks cool and holy shit that summon is complete and utter ass
>>729650463>playing meleethat's your first mistakeGGG HATES melee, I have not seen a developer with more vitriolic hatred for melee perhaps everjust swallow the bitter pill and grab that bow, Amazon enjoyer.
>>729650463>google poe2 starter builds>first 2 results are websites that let you filter by class in 1 clickmate if you can't navigate this I don't think poo2 is your game
>>729645752D4 won. Btw poop2 is not an ARPG
>>729648971D3 launched with the nephalem valor mechanic, which provided a stacking buff to magic find, gold find, and experience, up to bonus 75%, which you'd then lose if you changed skills, so you were effectively punished for experimenting.
poop of excrement 2 is bad.
>>729650534Goddamn what a piece of shit tranny game for faggot cucks who need to kill themselves.I'm a melee GOD and making a better melee while faggots play games that ruin Diablo and pretend they don't fear the government while getting steamrolledhttps://youtu.be/4Dd-TkY1WLc
>>729645752last epoch is fined2r is fine>>729645895I kinda liked this one but really can't tell why it's shilled or even considered a competitor; the low budget is obvious, the writing and music are leagues below, it feels like playing Torchlight one, the dual class system is kinda cool but some stuff is definitely obviously better than others, itemization isn't the hottest, and it's overall just a worse Titan quest without the cool theme. People hail it as the second coming but it's like a 7/10 or 7.5/10
>>729650328They sell league packs and monetize it as a finished product, so people are going to treat it like a finished product.
>>729645895every time I try I fall asleep half way through the campaign, I've tried finishing it like 50 fucking times over the years
This and mordhau are for tallfaggot tranny cucks who hate authenticityhttps://youtu.be/gHkTLE44X1c
>>729645752It's not so much a genre as it is a bunch of nostalgia wanking over diablo 2.Play Lost Ark and tell me the combat isn't a million times more fun without all the baggage and arpg systems, a Monster Hunter styled game with Lost Ark combat would go so hard.
>>729650718GD literally has the best itemization in the whole genre, even GGGdrones can't refute thisalso the music is unironically greathttps://youtu.be/UmETRjvIi00?si=4I78Rqu_aNu1LxKm
>>729646258>The game still feels bad to move around in>Diablo 4 feels good to playwhat the fuck are you talking about
>>729650793ok Kripp
Gangstalker game trying out the new "shotgun cleanse" trend in the mediahttps://youtu.be/I49otOBp4YI?si=TvABsP9ra6VxXKF7
>>729647947The gameplay in stuff like Victor vran and the van Hellsing games are obviously superior, but no one cares because there's not the level of itemization or character builds as these other games
>>729650837As in Diablo 4's movement literally feels snappier with less delay, especially between attacks. You're more easily able to cancel animations as well.Last Epoch is a AA unity game and feels like it. They make up for it by having a game more complex than D4, but they obviously cannot hit the same polish as Blizzard with their $10,000,000,000 budget.
>>729650805forgot pic
>>729647947This game is never gonna come out and the developers are gonna go out of business judging by how they act on discord.
>>729649298Poe1 was a lot better like 10-15 years ago. I think breach League was the last good one
>>729650793it never gets better, the gameplay pace is the same at all levels
My game absolutely dominates this little cringe copycat shit for faggot redditors living on cuckmode. I get to breathe while these spying faggots waterboard ushttps://youtu.be/b2-aM3Pu4gA
>>729651006PoE2 is not the right game to use for that.
>>729650805https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doB2R1Iqaxw
>>729647871Not even that. It gets so incredibly fucking repetitive with just 5 skills it's crazy. At least in D2 you had the ability to toggle between severalBut D4 is just so fucking empty. Esp after a decade of poe1 (back when it was good before strimmerfgts ruined everything post 2019)
>>729651073It does get better when you install dpyes and turn on wasd
>>729650323>best ascendancyI'm doing the chilled ground detonation build. It screen clears every .2 seconds and does about 4million dps on a 2 div budgetit also has more EHP and armor than my shaman with 10div worth of gear GG have no idea how to balance their game
post grim dawn gameplay
>>729650078the ARPG genre is for goycattle.
>>729650569But did you check those builds?>click build>"this build is not for leveling please use these leveling builds">click leveling build listed>THIS WIZARD BUILD IS AMAZING FOR LEVELING FIRST TAKE 4 SKILL GEM SLOTS FOR BOOMERANGS AND THEN GRAB THE GRENADE SKILL UNDER THE AK47 M AND SLOT A FLORBU INTO IT FOR MAXIMUM CREDWhy the fuck am I looking at wizard builds with grenades when I want to level a stabbing spear guy? And none of these builds ever explain why. The original guide I clicked on just links it but looks like they pasted the wrong fucking class build.Is that supposed to be the fun of POE2?>"yeah dude just pick the druid and go 3 skills into daggers, 1 into wands, another 2 in crossbow, and then go way into staffs and don't ask questions about any of this because I'll never explain it that's your fault for not having 3000 hours in poe1".Yeah, guess I'm stupid and filtered.
>>729651109kino
>>729650718>the writing and music are leagues belowYou fucking what mate. Are you sure you're not mixing up games? You can reasonably complain about many things in GD, given yes its mod for titan quest that got pumped full of indiegogo steroids, but the writing and music are kind of the only places where crate didn't have to compromise due to that.
Imagine trying to create within the rivets of destructionI'm outside of your crazy fucking freak world like all the best game designers. Cope with your piece of shit faggot game and die so we can live. https://youtu.be/NJwMbbP1MpM
>>729650736>monetize it as a finished product>"Support us in early access by buying these cosmetics"you are a dumb niggernow be a good little seething faggot nigger and report me for saying 'nigger', go on hit that button
Is it a schizo or an insane troll spamming the thread? Anyway, no ARPG can compete with the build autism of POE, so we need more with "real" action combat like Victor Vran and Stranger Of Paradise. Also, we need more games like Dungeon Siege where you control a party.
>>729651438>Is it a schizo or an insane troll spamming the thread?is there a difference?
Report me nigger. I said nigger.Report me nigger. I said nigger.Report me nigger. I said nigger.Report me nigger. I said nigger.Report me nigger. I said nigger.You are a shitbrown nigger and you are upset by being called nigger, so report my nigger, I said nigger.
>>729651438>>729651460The enemy of my enemy is my enemyhttps://youtu.be/ttkb_9vcd7A
>>729651290https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSpDusr6xTQ&list=PLP59O6_pVoLVzHs4Xg36Q3pD9fnlXK_qq&index=28I hope fangs of asterkam isn't so miserable. The base game and ashes of malmouth were so depressing. Forgotten gods wasn't too bad but that's to be expected since it was a side story not really part of cairn.
I'm still waiting for a modern take on Diablo with guns in some futuristic or apocalyptic way.Like how Restricted Area (2004) washttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf7lFvuj6_0
>>729651221Okay. What do you want to see?
>>729651647endgame
>>729651593well, the whole world of Cairn is supposed to be absolutely miserable at the current moment, though, and I think the devs did a really good job of portraying thatwhile our MC does all the stuff they do, it's only barely enough to help the last holdouts of civilization
>>729651716https://files.catbox.moe/r8uc68.webmHere's some random footage I recorded for a previous discussion about the merits of WASD in grim dawn.Its not very flattering because my framerate was struggling and I reduced the resolution so it wouldn't get bitmap raped and my minion healthbars end up covering half the screen
Reality is normal Deniers are schizo
>>729651642>mech games are about customizing your mech and putting parts on it>arpgs are about customizing your build and using different itemswhy the FUCK has it not been made yet? Imagine an ARPG set in a Cyberpunk style universe, it would be kino
>>729651642>>729651984
>>729651984The Ascent
>>729652026https://youtu.be/9yRffZXwqZs
>>729645752>D2R, D4, PoE1, LEAll fine. The only one I'll play for more than a week at a time is PoE1 though.>PoE2Unironically the best game in the genre but I have absolutely no interest in playing it again because of how long and slow the campaign is for seasonal play.I'm optimistic about TQ2 and the GD expansion too. I just think the genre is fun.
>>729652172I didn't like TQ2 much. It felt more like last epoch than TQ, like the dual classing was fairly superfluous.
>>729651984Because Japan can't into ARPGs and the west likes gay slow mechs for some reason. Dolls Nest did a pretty good mech soulslike, so it absolutely could work, but no one who is capable of making good mech gameplay will approach ARPGs.
The goyim are backwardsThey'll believe anything that keeps them poor and stupid and call their rival schizohttps://youtu.be/9E6b3swbnWg
>>729651283I went through the campaign on druid only using the 2 default wolf form attacks
>>729652339>west likes gay slow mechsBattletech isn't even slow, they even have mech with jumpjets, but they don't zip around as if made out of thin air
Reality Acknowledgers have more funhttps://youtu.be/VonHvmJDt04
https://youtu.be/WbRgoRdBokk
>>729651283>Why the fuck am I looking at wizard builds with grenades when I want to level a stabbing spear guyI don't know which build you decided to look at but I'm going to assume that the creator of the build guide is telling you to play early game with that because what you want to play is weak early game so then you can respec and transition mid-late game when your build can finally come online. It's to make the campaign feel better for you, you could likely use the build you want at the start but the build guide is telling you not to because it's likely very weak early game and needs higher investment, aka perfect for later or when you have enough exalts/divs (currency) to buy the items you need for the build to function properly and have acceptable clear/damage. I would recommend Lightning Arrow DeadEye builds if you want to turn your brain off and completely coast through the campaign and rape endgame.
is it time for /v/ to have poster IDs? it gets tiring to manually filter the schizoposts
>>729650926Are you implying that NRFTW doesn't have itemisation?It's a much more enjoyable system than PoE because it's practical to craft and start fleshing out a "build" right from the start of the game instead of everything being dominated by a market and early items all being irrelevant
>>729651009There's already enough of it out for it to be better value than PoE2 right now and the coop is already playable
>>729645861>>729645979How about I just ignore both games like I've always done? Not that voting with your wallet actually does anything with sheer number of paycucks out there.
>>729652905is that the itemization no rest for the wicked has because I'm not touching it with a fucking stick if that's the case loldid they look at D4 and think "yep, that's the shit people love"
>>729652527Modern ARPGs are about going fast no matter how much this board shills GD. ARPG guys would certainly prefer speedy AC mechs over MechWarrior mechs.>>729652905Conditional generic affixes are universally shit. Save that shit for a skill tree or uniques.
>>729653009>I'm retarded please let me roll +100% damage
>>729653373>I'm a midwit please let me roll +10% damage 2% of the time
>>729653373>>729653402>subhuman normalfags playing arpg "games" calling each other retardedkek. have fun pressing the same button combination for hundreds of hours in order to kill hordes of random dogshit mobs who run at you just to be killed. go back
>>729653470>obsessed faggot that doesn't play x genre coming into threads about x genre to bitch about it
>>729653514but I've played poe1, poe2, torchlight and d3. They are all the same goyslop.>why do people who played the games but didnt like them enter threads about them on a public forum?go back to your echo chamber, redditnigger
>>729651821site broke
>>729653402PoE2 itemisation is shit because it's 90% pure vertical. Gearing isn't a choice it's just a gambling minigame where you either get the good number or the bad number and you clap when you get the good number and feel sad when you get the bad number. PoE2 players aren't even qualifying for midwit status
>>729645806fippity bippity
ARPGs are brainless slightly deeper cookie clicker. Of course they're not good.
>>729645752Rare 'OP is right' moment. Whole thread is pointless cope.
Every ARPG is a waste of your time. Stop playing skinner boxes that drip feed you dopamine between hours of mindless repetitive content. Grinding an ARPG for a month doesn't build memories or experiences to look back on - it's just eating your time. Stop looking for short term momentary enjoyment - you've only got one life and it's slipping away.
>>729654078Lil pup turned 25.
arpgbabs are getting bullied hard itt kek.hopefully they all go back to their normalfag containment site soon
>>729645861the KFC double down makes me laugh every time i fucking see it
>>729645752You posted a good one.They are generally pretty good games. There's a reason people are willing to put 1000s of hours into poe and diablo games.It's just that the fans of this genre are so fucking autistic that just because every single piece of new content isn't as good as the best one before it that they think the entire genre is over now.Arpg fans are the most hard to please retards out there when im fact the genre is doing pretty alright in general.
>Diablo 4 expansion comes out.>Shill brigade comes out of the wood in full force.Painfully obvious.
crate dudes why didnt you read my feedback about skill fx i know you are here who else would shill for grim dawn
