>65 hours in>still on chapter 4If Odyssey is this big, I dread to imagine just how huge Valhalla is since that's the one everyone dreads about. Malaka islands and their bullshit story arcs.
>>729647503I finished Valhalla in more than 150 hours. Good luck
>>729647503as much as I loved having the ship again, especially as your mobile base, it's precise that fucking ship and island hopping that adds play time to odyssey.
>>729647503I did Valhalla + DLC and really took my time with it and came it at like, 175-200hrs. Comparatively, I’ve dropped Odyssey multiple times because it felt too slow and monolithic, I imagine it’s longer than Valhalla.
>>729647694>it's precise that fucking ship and island hopping that adds play time to odyssey.This paired with the fact you can pick a direction and start doing shit that will in no way advance your game because there's nothing of note there. Sure, there's quests, but it doesn't advance the main story or Cult bullshit. So you just wasted five hours.
>>729647825entire cult business is annoying because some members are gated. odyssey will surprisingly give you a lot of freedom, but then also pull the party stopper at times.
ubisoft can literally resurrect themselves, start their second coming of relevancy had these mythological games are their newest IP instead of making them as another assassin creed
>>729647978They tried that. Game was basically their own Breath of the Wild.
>>729648030This was a fun game with silly cartoony characters and visuals and the DLC that switches it to top-down was a novel addition. Perfect 7 out of 10 sloppa.
iHATEDthe downgraded combat and 20000 skills this game had
>>729647503Do yourself a favor and have a dedicated stealth loadout if you don't already. It makes clearing camps much faster.
They should have never gone away with shieldsOr introduced the whole no one hit kill shit
>>729648212if fucking INFURIATES me there's no way to quickly change loadouts. you have to go into he fucking inventory and change.
>>729648254>They should have never gone away with shieldsI don't know about that. I prefer parrying and game is so generous with timing as well as irrelevant facing that it might as well be blocking.
>>729648331Origins had better combat tho
>>729647938It's more because you're not supposed to be actively chasing the Cult as they're something you come across organically while you're completing stories in the game.
>>729647503If you only focus on the main story you can get trough Valhalla in about 50ish hours. If you want to do everything quadruple that.
>>729647503>your swindler uncle keeps popping up>I keep forgetting who he is because the game is so huge and full of so many mini-stories
>>729648295ironically this game had a couple of solid qol upgrades compared to the lame-o egypt gameI appreciated the ''pretend you're wearing X, while Y is actually equipped''-function
Odyssey will always be my favorite. Simply, because I was able to 100% it while on the clock
>>729647503>Oh nooo this game I'm enjoying just keeps going on & onsaid no on ever, just put it down and admit you got filtered
>>729648672>game I'm enjoyingeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhh
>>729648620>I appreciated the ''pretend you're wearing X, while Y is actually equipped''-functionThis is only a problem because mismatched gear makes you look like a clown. Working around this by having gear upgrades was a solution that worked.
>>729648818are you roleplaying as a retard?
>>729647503>Wow, so cool that they have made such a long and engaging game>look inside>it is just repeating quests and endless time waste to extend play time
>>729648818The best part of any game is looking like a robot clown in cutscenes.
>>729647503The ireland and france dlcs really add on to valhallas runtime. you could blitz through the main story very quickly, but it's arguably the worst part of the game
>>729647503I played Odissey when it came out after having a ton of fun with Origins, but I couldnt finish Odissey. Not bc I didnt have fun, which I did, but bc I got tired of the arbitrary quest level requirements that the original came came out with. They purpusefully reduced your xp gain by half to "force" you to buy the xp boosts, which meant that I was constantly required to do exploring and side quests on purpose just to acquire enough xp to be able to continue doing the main story quest, only for the very next one to jump again in level requirement..I remember being around lvl 25 just by playing normally (doing side quests when I wanted to, exploring when I wanted to etc), and the next main quest required me to be lvl 28 for me to be able to even accept it. After running around farming xp, I accept the main quest, only for the very next one to require lvl 31..It was so annoying having to farm xp that felt like a chore, ruined the game for me
>>729648030I thought this was a moba
>>729649021>I remember being around lvl 25 just by playing normally (doing side quests when I wanted to, exploring when I wanted to etc), and the next main quest required me to be lvl 28 for me to be able to even accept it. After running around farming xp, I accept the main quest, only for the very next one to require lvl 31..Really? I hit level 50+ and half the map was unexplored.
>>729647503Valhalla filtered me. It was too long and boring
>>729648030Better than BOTW. It was fun
>>729649021Playing AC games means you're committing to at least 100% zone completion. Playing this way means you'll never have this level gating I've heard people talk about Odyssey and Valhalla.
>>729647503I want to get this but I have no game to add on to it to get the 10 euro discount to knock it down to 9,99. I already bought valhalla and origins
>>729649021I just played on easy and that put the game into normal mode. The grind was minimal, the fodder died accordingly and only the bosses and sub bosses were challenging at timesI never had any issue with their retarded RPG systems that were clearly designed to make you buy shit, because they added accessibility features that countered all of that. People were just too proud/ retarded to use them and it's not like Ubishit were telling everyone to just flip a few switches to negate just about all of their greedy bullshit systems
>buy this on PS5>get to the islands in the east>game starts crashing all the time>even starts crashing in the main menu which I'm assuming has something to do with the save system the game hasNot an outstanding game, but I was enjoying the aesthetics.
>>729647503Kassandra a a very round ass, I like it.I still prefer to play with Alexios
>>729649506Has a*
>>729649506isn't she a complete ironing board(both tits and ass) in the unmodded game?
I got to Sparta I think and felt like I'd seen everything I need to see, and was probably only like 2/3rds of the way through
>>729649626Not modded = awful
>>729647745>I imagine it’s longer than Valhalla.It's not. Not even close.
>>729649747Was it fun for 500 hours?
>>729647503I'm playing Valhalla now, Ubisoft really needs to learn how to make a more focused experiencing instead of covering the map in dots to clear.
Game was not fun enough and story was not good enough to warrant the length, just a waste of hours
>>729649747y u do this
I thought of buying it but price is bigger than last time so i willw ait for bigger discount how is the game as open world game and explorationa dn shit not as AC game ?
>>729649812>a more focused experiencing instead of covering the map in dots to clear.You're suggesting that's what core audience wants which appears to be wrong. Even Shadows was done in by external factors rather than by being yet another AC game.
>>729649889just remember you still need the ubisoft client to play it
>>729649889Have you played Origins? It's that except in Ancient Greece, bigger and less to do with series mythos.
>>729649783It was fun for like 80ish hours, mediocre for about 250 hours, and the rest was just monotonous and boring because it was nearly all River Raids on repeat, like a dozen hours of Siege of Paris radiant missions on repeat, and extremely repetitive Dawn of Ragnarok stuff.>>729649889>how is the game as open world game and explorationa dn shit not as AC game ?Even if you pretend it is just called "The Odyssey" the exploration in the map is ass, very repetitive, there's tons and tons of copy pasted camps, sanctuaries, and tombs, there's not much that differentiates a lot of areas, and the major towns feel like there's barely anyone in them. You will also have a radiant event happen every 30 seconds outside of a town because they think you need constant engagement or you'll get bored.
>>729649937Yea>>729649995I played Odyssey but i quit soon after since my pc was too shit for it and i refunded it (my graphics card was too fucked for modern ish games like it litteraly couldnt comprehend them)>>729650085Are there any other bit better open world games i want some shit that i can play while i listen to shit in background (preferably it has archivements,some story and is not in ea)Like Ghost of Tsushima (i played it and finished it)
>>729650085You prefer AC Shadows in AC RPG?
>>729650085>the exploration in the map is ass, very repetitiveI love ubi's open worlds because they look and sound amazing but there's fuck all to doI guess Shadows didn't fix anything about that?
I would have liked Valhalla more if all the AC stuff was taken out. It was very cozy when you were just Ivor doing viking shit in England. The AC modern day stuff and late-story killed all that for me personally.
>>729650085What compels you to constantly play these shitty games to 100%?
>>729650191Hogwarts LegacyBiomutant (It's low budget though so fair warning)Tomb Raider 2013Rise of the Tomb RaiderSleeping DogsGravity Rush 1 and 2.All the Arkham games.>>729650214Origins > Shadows > Mirage > Valhalla > Odyssey>>729650248>I guess Shadows didn't fix anything about that?It's better in terms of castle/fort design (Best in the series really), people are all over the place and constantly walking on roads, and every single area is distinct be it towns, villages, or outposts even though they reuse some buildings obviously. Problem is they absolutely spam the hell out of temples and shrines that you'd be convinced Japan is more shrines and temples than places people actually live.Shadows is also the second most bloated game in the series. Like, if you think Odyssey is bloated it has nothing on Shadows even if it's more varied and only Valhalla tops it in terms of bloat.
>>729650440I regret that they abandoned Japanese mythology. In Origins, I believe we fight mythical Egyptian creatures. Similarly, in Odyssey or Valhalla, we go to Elysium or Valhalla.AC Shadows: Nothing, just humans.
>>729647503>have best parkour system in gaming>make beautiful open worlds>create the most shit games imaginable with them
>>729650248>I love ubi's open worlds because they look and sound amazing but there's fuck all to doIt's because they're so fuckhuge they can't reasonably populate them with enough meaningful content. So you get your camps, tombs and elite animals to kill. It's funny because Odyssey actually had a decent number of self-contained stories sprinkled throughout the world so some baby steps were made.
>>729650357Historical tourism, vistas, the Modern Day story, usually decent characters or stories, nice aesthetics, fun parkour mechanics, stealth combat that isn't full on stealth like Thief, Hitman, or Splinter Cell, variety in locations, and it's a really great "Podcast game". You can just throw a Youtube video on or TV show and do the various checklists.Look, I may complain about certain aspects of these games and I don't like Odyssey, but I still enjoyed my time playing them despite that. They are unique and enjoyable ways to spend my time even if sometimes it's monotonous. I'm at 380 hours in Shadows and still haven't gone to NG+ yet for the last two achievements because of other games I'm playing, the new BP in Shadows, and the Christmas check-ins.>>729650590We do fight The Oni if that counts for anything.
>>729650612Parkour of old is barely there in nu-AC games. Amusingly enough they've revived some old parkour moves and added them to Shadows and Mirage after release.
>>729647503>>729647602>>729647694looks like the game truly is an odyssey
>>729647503game has its moments if you go into it completely unaware
Same with Origins. Hate how side quests are basically mandatory because hurr durr i need to be level x to not get 1 shot by health sponge enemies
>>729650905I never got this complaint. You're playing an AC game and you just expect to do the barebones main story? Of course you're expected to do the side missions.
>>729647503>get to T1 mercenary>additional S+ categories appearMALAKAS
>>729647503everything nowadays has to much bloated "content".i dont really play anything beyond 2014ish anymore because of that.no i will not invest 2000 hours of my life to beat your fucking mess.
>>729647503>you only get the fun upgraded skills during the dlcIt'd be a much more enjoyable experience if they didn't lock those behind 100 hours of slog.
>>729647503>get to chapter 3>realise I'm gonna have to do another bunch of literal "kill 5 bandits" and "destroy 3 ships" quests given by soulless, terribly voice acted npcs in order to not be underleveled>uninstall the gameshame, I like ancient greece but the game felt awfuly tedious. maybe I should pirate it and just use a trainer to skip all that bs
>>729647503I play one of these games every few years. Recently beat Odyssey, putting off Valhalla for 2026.
>>729647503the nortubel of assassins creed
>>729647503I dropped Odyssey before Valhalla. The need to constantly go back and swap the relics(?) on your gear after every upgrade, the ship micromanagement, the pointless civil war element, it was too much bloat. Valhalla actually has much simpler gear where it works like Dark Souls instead of Diablo, there's only 1 copy of every item and you just upgrade it to unlock its potential. Also the ship stuff is much simpler, you sail along rivers and raid towns, there's no ship combat. The world is much comfier to explore because you aren't constantly swapping between ship and land, you can ride your horse anywhere if you want. >>729648254>no one hit kill shitNever understood this complaint. If you build your character towards assassination you can 1-shot 99% of the enemies in the game. Killing elites/minibosses boils down to using a drop assassination to do as much damage as possible and then stunlocking them with smoke bombs and magic BS for the remaining health. Do you want to literally press R1 to skip every fight in the game?
>>729647503All I remember surrounding Odyssey was the shitstorm over who the canonical MC was.
>>729651665>Never understood this complaint. If you build your character towards assassination you can 1-shot 99% of the enemies in the game. Killing elites/minibosses boils down to using a drop assassination to do as much damage as possible and then stunlocking them with smoke bombs and magic BS for the remaining health. Do you want to literally press R1 to skip every fight in the game?I suspect this comes down to most people simply not using multiple loadouts. If you don't you're a generalist who kinda sucks at everything as you're balancing the warrior/assassin/ranged damage output.
>>729650942I want to experience the game without sinking the extra 80 hours to level up. I get doing side content for being rewarded with new abilities and gear. But it shouldn't be to raise arbitrary levels like in mmorpgs
>>729651757>I want to experience the game without sinking the extra 80 hours to level up.but that's what assassin's creed is, anon
>>729651697>2/3 of players picked alexios>it was 50/50 in valhalla, but you could switch gender at will>in shadows naoe was more popular because alternative was UNGA BUNGAI guess ubisoft finally got their "players chose the female protagonist" moment. all it cost them was their company.
>>729651790Origins actually started this shit iirc. Unity still had optional content to just get cool new shit like weapons gadgets and cosmetics
>>729647503Ubisoft are going to have a resurrection when Assassin's Creed Black Flag Remake releases in a couple of months. It's going to be shilled and hated here but it'll be a huge game and will save Ubisoft. I'm buying shares right now, while the price is rock bottom. You fuckers are going to laugh at me now, but after Black Flag Remake launches, I will be the one laughing.
>>729651753I never bothered with loadouts. In Origins and Odyssey I went all in on assassination, in Valhalla I went all in on archery because doing assassinations as a Viking felt stupid. In any case you end up insanely overpowered. Any build can 1-shot mooks and any build has a dozen tools to cheese elites too. These games are easy. I have to assume anyone making this complaint hasn't actually played the games and is just parroting Yahtzee.
>>729650823good one
>>729652114FABULOSO
>>729647503has anyone even played jade?
>>729652865will never come outand WWM buried it
>>729651665>Never understood this complaint. If you build your character towards assassination you can 1-shot 99% of the enemies in the game.You can't unless you're on the lowest difficulties and even then you need to rely on crit chances proccing on top of Critical Assassinate for anyone with yellow health and you can't do it to Mercenaries at all even if fully invested into Assassin. The only build that can assassinate mercenaries is a 100% crit build.Keep in mind that by going Assassin you make the bow (Hunter) unusable and since you have nothing into Warrior you're constantly dodging waiting on either Fury of the Bloodline or Hero's Strike to deal damage at all since there's nothing else that can.>Do you want to literally press R1 to skip every fight in the game?This is an Assassin's Creed game: Yes. It's why the 100% crit build is actually fun because it makes it at least somewhat assassination-focused.
>>729653004>Critical AssassinateDon't get me started on that shit. Oh, HOLD the button to cause more damage? Why in the fuck does it not just replace standard assassinate? When would I want to cause less damage?
>>729652865We can only hope the recent hacks end up releasing the playable beta build because it's insane it's been like three or four years since that and we've heard absolutely nothing of it. It's not like it looked that great, but it would have been something new and different, and a Chinese game not tainted by Wuxia or Xianxia as the backdrop for it. I also want to see how the whole Kassandra deal goes because she was apparently going to be a part of the main story.
>>729653127>also costs an adrenaline gauge for doing the exact animation but biggerer damageAmazing game design, Ubislop.
>>729653127I think this would be less of a problem if controls weren't absurdly finnicky at times.
wow you're telling me ancient greece before any eastern invasions was full of brown mud people? thanks ubisoft!
>>729653206>Also takes two kills to even earn back the bar of adrenaline you spent on that.>Once you get higher in levels the stealth damage you deal is even lower meaning you have to start spending it more and more often to kill stuff you could one-shot earlier.Odyssey having Warrior/Hunter/Assassin was such an insanely stupid idea and Valhalla and Shadows had to spend their games overhauling it it was that bad. Both Valhalla and Shadows let you do exactly what Odyssey wanted you to do (Use builds) without gimping your ass even if the builds in both those games are borderline pointless compared to spear and posture attacks respectively.
>>729651864it's old trauma from unity and syndicate
>>729649747Moose-kun what the fuck were you doing to make it last that long?
>>729653342why's it always gotta be "one step forward two steps back" with these gamesfuck
>>729653526>why's it always gotta be "one step forward two steps back" with these gamesDifferent internal studios. Also, design and pre-production are handled while other projects are already underway.
>>729647503Ubisoft doesn’t design these games to be completed. Just sit back and enjoy Odyssey as the ultimate adventure game. It’s huge yeah. I remember being overwhelmed at the beginning and just started walking in one direction. Months later I finished the family quest line. The Cult of Cosmos quest line is separate and I dont remember if I finished that one. Just enjoy the game anon.No, I didn’t play Valhalla and I never will because once again, Ubisoft doesn’t design these games to be completed. They’re designed to waste your time
>>729653650you'd think those fucks would communicate with each other
>>729647503i remember playing this shit when it came out and seething when i was forced into doing side content to level up or i would do no damage, pretty sure it's the last one i played
>>729653453100%ing the game.>Base game is like 140ish hours since it covers Norway, England, all of the Isu content, and America.>Wrath of the druids is around 30-50 hours.>Siege of Paris is around 40-50 hours with 10ish hours being the same exact mission done on repeat so you can buy out the stores that has exclusive currency tied to it for clearing their missions.>Dawn of Ragnarok is around 50 hours.>River Raids are a minimum of 80-150 hours because you have to upgrade your ship to full capacity, then actually upgrade the two buildings that rely on cargo, then finally buy out the store that only sells items via cargo.>Epilogue is like 2-3 hours.>The Isu tomb is about 2 hours.>Kassandra content is about 5 hours.>Did all the seasonal content when they released and each one was about 3-5 hours to buy out all the items which means about 30 hours total since the reruns had new items.>Did all the exclusive Ubisoft challenges weekly that had exclusive weapons, ship parts, or mounts which easily was like 40 hours over all the weeks.>The rest of the time was farming ingots in between the weekly challenges to get everything to Legendary.>Then after the final patch I went to each store to buy the stuff I missed since I didn't own the game until like eight months after release which took several hours.How Long To Beat is full of people who consider 100% just getting the platinum/1000g, not everything. It's why it's horrendous to actually use to figure out times for 100% runs. Just go look at Odyssey's and read all the people who say "Didn't 100% the game" in the "100%ed the game" category.
>>729650440What's the problem with mirage? I didnt like the rpg playstyle of odyssey so i want to avoid all the new games that have that. I thought mirage was a return to the original trilogy gameplay. Is there some other problem holding it back?
>>729653526Shadows finally got it all under control at least. The HP bar system is by far the best compromise between the RPG system and the classic assassinations as they make it very easy to get up to three bars right in the tutorial area which is like 80% of the enemies in the game. Then the added denial system makes it believable you can't assassinate people via animations and then the animations they give to the highest tier guys makes it believable you stabbed them and they're about to die since they typically only have 1-2 bars left.>>729654037Mirage is fine, it's just middle of the road. It is a return to form but>It's still got a lot of Valhalla's parkour issues.>Eivor's heaviness for Basim when parkouring which feels wrong.>Despite Basim having back ejects the game doesn't feel designed to ever use them.>You basically can't fight anyone with normal attacks or you get parried/deflected constantly so it's just waiting for parries until you instakill the guy from depleting his posture (Which only the starting dagger buffs).>You have to intentionally avoid the teleport skill or you break the game completely because of how it makes you invisible and lets you get a kill across basically the entire map in front of a crowd and then kill someone close to you to avoid ever being spotted.>You learn absolutely nothing about Basim that you didn't know already in Valhalla. You actually know more about him in just his introduction in Valhalla than you do the entirety of Mirage.Apparently the new content addresses this but I haven't done it yet.The map is well designed, they actually make you favor stealth, you have tons of tools, stealing is back, factions are back, the cosmetics are mostly solid, and it's a breath of fresh air compared to Odyssey or Valhalla, but Shadows does stealth probably the best in the series even if the AI can't go on rooftops and Origins does the overall experience better than it.
>>729653771yeah forced completionism is not fun. Imagine if in skyrim you had to do every single camp and quest, it would be 10x worse than it already is. (I do everything anyway, but out of my own free will)
Origins and Odyssey were absolutely beautiful games but a real slog near the end. I got Valhalla and it feels like a slog 8 hours in. The environment is nowhere near as pretty as the older games. Also I prefer to play the stealth assassination style and I've heard Valhalla basically forces you into combat most of the time.>>729654339>Shadows does stealth probably the best in the seriesIt's on sale.. How mandatory is playing as George Floyd?
I think i'm gonna have to abandon the second Origins 100% hunt. I just can't do it anymore after 33h
>>729654617>How mandatory is playing as George Floyd?100% mandatory
>>729647503>ASSASSin’s creed in almost 2026 AD:wilted rose emoji:
>>729654617>It's on sale...Please keep in mind that the enemy AI is fairly dumb even if you're on Nightmare stealth difficulty where stuff like webm happens. They can hear basically every footstep from several feet away (Even more when it's winter) so they're constantly paranoid, they patrol like crazy looking for you, and they have eagle vision as you see in the webm which is on Nightmare, but if you get noticed you can just prone on a rooftop and lose aggro, assassinate someone, run back onto the rooftop, and repeat.I say "Shadows has the best stealth" because every area is designed around encouraging it, you can learn how to sneak up on people even though they're hypochondriacs on speed, you have tons of tools as Naoe and Yasuke has Silent Arrows + Brutal Assassinates (Yes, you will stealth kill constantly as Yasuke despite it being harder to do so), civilians now exist in castles and other major areas who alert guards and drag them to your position, you have the ability to prone now, etc.>How mandatory is playing as George Floyd?15%ish of the main story of the game. He actually has the best story out of the two if you can believe it even though several characters worship the ground he walks on. Naoe is who you will be wanting to do everything with because obviously he doesn't fit the setting at all, but it will force you into him for some of the main story, the Templar side of the story (Naoe has nothing to do with it until the DLC), collecting the crests from the castles since Naoe can't move the boxes to pick them up or turn them in, and his personal tombs.You primarily want to play him for optional stuff like when doing reruns of the castles since Naoe takes an hour and he takes like 5 minutes, when you're doing contracts since, again, she takes like 2-5 minutes while he takes 10 seconds, and if you generally want to fill out the map's fog of war because he can climb steep slopes, go through snow faster, swim faster, and row a boat faster.
>>729647978>>729648030I want semi-grounded historical open worlds that aren't ASScreed. Nobody gives a shit about the modern world story, nobody gives a shit for the worn out "the mythological gods were AKSHUALLY ANCIENT ALEAN RACE WOWAHHH" that repeats every single fucking game. It's boring and repetitive. Every single historical event is put through the lens of masonic bad guys vs masonic good guys. Fucking BORING. WOW THERE IS A SECRET CULT AGAIN! YOU HAVE TO KILL THESE SECRET PEOPLE!! AD NAUSEAM for the entire franchise.Give me a historical open world without the stupid filler self-insert bullshit. Please
>>729655060>Nobody gives a shit about the modern world story, nobody gives a shit for the worn out "the mythological gods were AKSHUALLY ANCIENT ALEAN RACE WOWAHHH" that repeats every single fucking game.Yes, they do. They care about it so much it's why Layla even exists, why there's so much of it in Odyssey compared to any other game before it, why the movie is like 70% focused on it, and why Shadows just got an entire Isu-based patch because they barely had any of it in Shadows and they got sick of people complaining about that fact on top of another one just a week or so back. The people like you who complain about the Isu or Modern Day are a vocal minority. Even in their GDC talk one of their main rules is that the story must be tied to the Animus and the Templar/Assassin conflict in some way.Black Flag Remake is removing all of the Modern Day stuff to just focus on the Edward side of things, but they're forcing the RPG mechanics into it so it's a double-edged deal.
