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Just started the PS2 version last night and holy fuck man I wish they still made games like this nowadays.
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>>729653640
it has that early 2000s charms that i miss so much. i love games from 1994 to like 2010, that was my golden age
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>>729653886
16 years is an entire life. It was a good run, anon.
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>>729653640
Say what you will even about the quality of games back in that era, at least if a game was shit, there was like 5-6 other games coming out next month alone that could potentially be good. Nowadays we have to wait 7-8 years for a single game, and if it's shit, tough shit. The indie scene solved that issue temporarily, but even that's gone sour lately (unless you consider the hundreds of AI generated UE asset swap tech demos as actual games worth buying).
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I remember your thread. Glad you're enjoying the game!

>>729653886
I'd limit it to 1995-2005.
It's been a nose dive since then.
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>>729653640
never touched anything final fantasy ever, should i start with this? do i play with english audio or do you fags swear on japshit audio? do i crank it up to 1440p in emulator or do i put a forced soul crt filter? autists i hereby summon you
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>>729653640
It's god tier, enjoy
>>729654558
yeah just start with X, its a good entry
Do English audio. Play the international PS2 version.
No idea about filters and all that, I played it on the actual PS2
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>>729654558
original dub is pretty decent

it's a good start point if you can't handle ps1 graphics, but I would start with 7
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>>729654483
old games, specially from the early CD machines like Sega CD, PC Engine, etc, are just so charming to me, even when they are not great, like yesterday i put on my PS3 two PS1 games that got recently translated, one called Magical date and other like gogo doll or whatever and they are very rough (specially the 2nd one) but they are so whimsical and cheerful that it makes me want to keep playing and i'm having a great time.
Same with Mario 64 rom hacks, i got a Summercart fro Christmas and i have been playing so many Mario 64 rom hacks, some that even feel like a lost sequel, and that has been like the Ratatouille scene with the apple pie non stop, i'm happy again
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>>729653640
u wish they made games with terrible pacing, ridicoulus story, shit gameplay and graphics ?
jesus christ uncs are so fkin cooked
you will never be a child again u balding fat fuck!
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>man I wish they still made games like this nowadays
That's why E33 won goty, it literally feels like a remaster of a PS2 game.
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>>729654542
>2005.
i include 2006 to 2010 because the 360,ps3 and Wii had really good games early on, that still felt like gen 6th game but in HD, but after the Kinect and PS move all started going south
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>>729654558
Original on PS2 if possible, dub is corny for its time but full of soul
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FFX is the last good FF game, and easily one of the best FF games overall, on top of being just a really good game in general. Also kind of unique for having an absolutely massive optional post game.
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>>729654705
>I played it on the actual PS2
based, i love me crt and ps2 but with FFX in particular the image is a like a little "up", so i have to go to the service menu to lower it for some reason.
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>>729654810
Yes people don’t realize that at one point even in the West FF was arguably the biggest series in gaming. E33 shows that that can still be the case when you don’t try to make it a completely different style of game. Hopefully this wakes SE up and XVII is finally the return to form we’ve been waiting for for 20 years.
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>>729654720
Start with VI at least, VII is the best one so you’ll get spoiled early
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>>729655029
I heard FF17 is going to be a third person shooter
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>>729654558
Go for it. It's one of the best games in the series.
The English dub is good. I'd say you can crank up the resolution or use whatever filters you want, but I'm not an autist.
I think the best way to play PS2 games is still on an actual PS2, but PCSX2 is more than adequate if you don't have one of those lying around.

The HD re-relase of the game is serviceable, but they replaced a lot of character models with worse looking ones for reasons that are beyond me.
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>>729654879
I like the setting of 12. Shame the gameplay and story suck. Thankfully we have Tactics A2 to fix that... well, the gameplay, at least.
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>>729654483
It's impossible to convey through words how much worse vidya has been over the last 15 years compared to the golden age, because the standards of the people you're talking to were either radically transformed or entirely formed by modern AAA garbage. You'll tell them games are shit now and they'll respond with some image of 8-10 games that came out over the past 5-10 years, half of which are remakes, and say "no no no, gaming is better now than ever, look at all these great games". Meanwhile, every game in this image was released in one year, 1998, and you could just as easily create images like this of all the games released in 97 and 99. Not only are there less games, the games that are releasing are worse, and that's not even mentioning how all games releasing now are drained of anything unique and melded into a AAA blob to attract as many consumers as possible.
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>>729655285
I wouldn't be surprised given the current shit show that is modern final fantasy
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>>729655029
>>729655285
I’m all seriousness I’m pretty sure Square has been making the remake of FFIX for a very long time and knowing Japanese sensibilities for tradition they’re probably developing the remake of X at the same time just like the originals. They won’t stretch them out to three releases like with Rebirth (they learned their lesson there) but they should be beefy and do extremely well.
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>>729654558
For your first Final Fantasy, 10 is a good starting one. I'd recommend 4, 7, or 10 as a first for anyone interested in the series.
>do i play with english audio or do you fags swear on japshit audio?
English. Always. Most of the localizations are cringe but still got soul behind them. Same with the dub.
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>>729653640
What, games where you can't walk 3 steps without shitty repeated battle #52141251 happens again, against the same 3 NPC niggas in a row?
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>>729653931
i watched a friend play ffx for the first time and she understood the laughing scene. i was so proud
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>>729653931
this will always be the funniest copes around ffx diehard fans, this dumb idea that people don't "get" the scene, rather than accepting that a lot of people find the scene dumb
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>>729655345
>all those great games in just 1 (one) year
jesus, the absolute state of the modern video game industry
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>>729655472
people not getting was probably due to just watching the clip out of context in youtube in 2006
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>>729653640
You want them to make corridor running games starring meg ryan?
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>>729655472
Based she’s a keeper
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>>729653640
you know a game is great when it attracts so many seething autists who hate on the game
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>>729655570
Nah. People who were playing the game actively talked about how bad the scene was around the game's release.
Every FF has its critics and not every aspect works for everyone. About the only constant with FF games.
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>>729655395
Why do people even want remakes of these games?
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>>729654810
No it fucking doesn't. It's just a really good rpg that feels like a ps4/ps5/xbox. Stop dickriding--it is nothing like games from that era.
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>>729654558
Play 5, 12, 10, 7, 8 and you can reasonably ignore the rest if they aren't interesting to you.
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>>729656251
>not recommending the greatness of VI and IX
Shame
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>>729655570
>>729655575
People just parroting Spoony reviews
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>>729655985
The same people who bought MGS Delta and Re4make in droves.
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>>729656465
BETRAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

JECHT BETRAYED ME

YUNA. SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>729656335
They're great games, but in my opinion VI is way too easy, so if someone never played FF, but has played jrpgs then it could sour them if story isn't their cup of tea. I was going to say IX was too slow, but thinking about it while I'm writing this makes me realize that that's retarded and it's still the literal peak of RPGs from that generation along with Vagrant Story. I stand corrected.
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>>729654879
Yes. It started to show a few of the issues that would haunt the series later like corridors, and Lulu and Khimari could have been rolled into the same character but otherwise a fantastic game. I'm still mad they had the best turn based system to date and then just abandoned it.
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>>729656465
X is full of corridors and the main map is a menu. The only real """"maps""" were the Bevelle Cloister, and Sin.
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>>729656984
this is just me but i do not see "corridors" as a bad thing, specially in games with random encounters. Also in general, "dungeons" in FF were always simplistic in the sense that you don't have to solve puzzles or anything like in Lufia and Golden sun for example, you just go to the next floor/exit of the dungeon.
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>>729655345
In the same year we got:
>FFT
>Half Life
>MGS
>OoT
>Parasite Eve
>Pokemon Red
>Resident Evil 2
>Xenogears
I don't think 1998 will ever be beaten
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>>729656984
There are definitely more than a few hidden chests and items in most of the areas. You’re rewarded for going around corners and things. Sure it’s more linear than something like FFVII but it’s not exactly a hallway sim either.
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>>729657140
Agreed
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>>729655527
You can find the execution to be dumb, but story wise it makes perfect sense
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>>729657140
I'm just one of those people that always have to point this out because its one of the main things that got XIII shat on so hard and after playing a solid game like XIII-2, I realized the X gets glazed hard when it started a lot of stuff that people hate about modern FF.
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>>729657326
that fair, i guess in people's eyes (i haven't played FFXIII) the good in FFX outweights the corridors compared to XIII
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>>729657548
FFXIII is literally hallways the whole time FFX isn’t
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>>729658234
2-4 hours of non-hallways in a 40 hour game is kind of pushing it. If they weren't hallways, they were wide open areas. They have little side roads or cliffs with treasure, but so did FFXIII.
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>>729658234
>>729658536
Compared to something like
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>>729655527
>laughing with your friend to cheer yourself up is dumb
How sad is your life
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>>729658651
Or
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>>729655317
> they replaced a lot of character models with worse looking ones for reasons that are beyond me.
I looked into this because I at first was playing the Remastered verison but learned the original PS2 verison had better models and it turned out they lost a good amount of the source code so they decided to wing it and do the models again and just did a shitty job of it. I may have wasted 30 hours on the Remastered verison but playing it again via PS2 emulator with upscaled graphics was such an improvement it didn't feel like a waste in the end.
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>>729653640
FFX was the canary in the coal mine for the series' decline.

The whole game felt like a collection of compromises resulting from Square struggling to wrangle with the PS2's hardware.
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>>729655527
You didn't get the scene
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>>729653931
Pitching that scene around with a frequency shifter(not pitch) gives the most evil demonic sounds I've ever heard, it's great
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>>729658651
based xii enjoyer
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>>729658834
Honestly this design is too complicated for it’s own good and can be frustrating to get out of.
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FFX had some of the worst side content I've ever experienced in the series.
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As much as I love this game, its all in the atmosphere/music/characters. The actual gameplay is ass
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>>729659234
anytime i want to play it i just listen to the god tier soundtrack instead because i don't want to spend time dodging lightning bolts
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>>729659274
Nah it’s the best turn based gameplay ever designed
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>>729659274
I feel like every huge fan of this game I've come across is like this. The battle system is good (until the balancing breaks like 3/4 into the game), but all the side content is total ass and not really worth doing. The Celestial Weapons quests are some of the most tedious garbage Squaresoft has ever come up with in a video game. And this is coming from someone who did all the events in Legend of Mana, so I know how bad things can get in other games they've worked on.
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>>729653640
What the fuck is wrong with you, faggot?
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>>729659619
Idk you tell me
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>>729659115

>Adulthood means realizing that Great Crystal, Feywood, and Ridorana Cataract are 3 of the best locations to ever come out of FF
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>>729659580
it rides on aesthetics, it looks and sounds beautiful
how dare you not want to blow the your time chocobo racing for gear
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>>729654558
7,8,9 and 10 are all good games. I'd suggest playing them on emulators so you can speed up the gameplay at any time so you don't have to sit through 15 second summon/attack animations and so you can move faster in the overworld and get through loading in and out of battles faster
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>>729659753
>this post just reminded me of the balloon missions

Yeah, no anon is right--these sidequests were textbook unfun. We literally only did them for weapons. Who actually turned on their PS2 and said "Yeah, I'm going to race chocobos and play blitzball the entire time because they are just that fun!"
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>>729654542
To me it was 2007, because Halo 3 launched and I was a Sophomore in college. It felt like the last hoorah of my teenage years before life got serious, and CoD4 and seemed to have started this new era of hyper-monetized gaming for a different audience. The iPhone, Twitch streaming, Reddit's popularity, the rise of UE4 - all happened around this time. 2007 rly was the last year in gaming.
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Hey OP, make sure to use Rikku and abuse her mix overdrive and item stealing ability to blitz the game to completion
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>>729653886
I would say the golden age extended to the mid 2010s even. Some great games but woke slowly started creeping in and by the 2020s it was on full blast.
>Witcher 3 2015
>Skyrim 2011
>Saints Row 4 2013
>Alien Isolation 2014
>Portal 2 2011
>Doom 2016
>Hitman 2016
>Spec Ops: The Line 2012
>Arkham Knight 2015
>Hotline Miami 2012
>Subnautica 2014
>Wolfenstein: The New Order 2014
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>>729659896
I loved blitzball honestly
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>>729659753
FFIX was also aesthetically awesome AND had an actually decent game underneath those aesthetics. Sure, the combat's not as good as FFX's, but I'll sacrifice that for an actual world map and side quests that don't feel like tedious fodder.
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>>729659993
no one loved blitzball
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>>729660093
9's atb was utter shit after 7 and 8's
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>>729659982
No. 2006 was the beginning of the end. Even nowadays we have a handful of great games every year/every other year. But 2006 was when games started becoming hyper corporatized and started selling games piecemeal through mtx. Ask a wallet abused NIS fan if the golden age extended into the 2010s
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>>729660093
>chocobo dig
>excalibur 2 (was literally impossible on the pal versions btw)
>fucking jump rope
Tetra master was good but fuck they had a bad run here too
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>>729654542
As much as I love the 90s, the N64/PS1 era aged the worse and I will die on this hill. I still go back to the 4th era, hell even the 3rd era but the 5th era is all like
>bro 3D
Like they would take a 2D game and make it 3D and call it a day. The camera and controls were and still are awful and clunky. A lot of the SNES pixel era art was also lost. 6th era found its groove and genuinely improved on everything from 5th. 7th was the last major hoorah before gaming sold out to woke, realism and interactive movies.
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i'm not going to argue with you about ix, i like ix
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>>729660173
2007 next to 2004 and 2001 is one of the best and biggest years in gaming ever. 2015 is also up there.
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>>729660160
Yeah, they were pushing the hardware a bit too far with four playable characters. Had to make everything slow to compensate. Not a wise move.
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>>729654558
wow, everyone gave 100% reasonable advice for once. Is this because we're all old?
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>>729659982
None of those are better than current games.
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>>729660406
At least we're still alive. Drink to it. Not the worst era to have lived through.
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>>729655459
still more fun and engaging than your modern slop. explain.
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>>729660406
yes
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>>729660406
The lack of normalfags might help, they're usually the ones who act all super aggressive and want to be the "internet hate machine"
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>>729655570
nah plenty of retards who played it and didn't understand what was happening and though the voice actors were just bad. I lost all faith in the fanbase after that.
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r34
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>>729660596
Facts I’m just happy to exist at the same time as Final Fantasy and computer games in general. We really had it better than anyone before us and doomers can’t convince me otherwise.
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>>729660936
I noticed this too with threads about games more than 10 years old. Those people shit posting in those threads are likely half the age of the people lurking this thread.
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>>729659234
you don't have to do the zodiac weapons
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>>729653640
They still make linear pieces of shit like this. Like FF13 and 16.
Once the first few kino hours pass you will be left with a shitty plot, dumb dialogue, annoying characters and like 3 enemy models being recycled over and over again. Also the shrines are boring and arr rook same.
The music is pretty good though.
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>>729653640
The closest game to old FF
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>>729661064
I hate that I missed out on XI. Now I don't even have time to play MMOs at all. One of the biggest scams I've ever fallen for is the fanbase convincing me not to play simply because its an MMO.

https://youtu.be/UehvdgLoTWA?si=kJ5uWUXFsBR4aULY
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>>729661419
They announced the remake of XI
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>>729660195
>chocobo dig
was good
>exalibur 2
just a left over from development that was clearly not meant to end up in the final build. you wouldn't even know of its existence or requirements without being told.
>fucking jump rope
this shit can burn in hell
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You'll quit playing in a week lol
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>>729661358
Sakaguchi-Sama I kneel…
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>>729661573
>not included: the hundreds of hours i played it on ps2 and emulators
modern games are soulless garbage
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>>729653886
No, gayming golden age has ALWAYS been 91 to around '02.
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>>729661530
1.0 ~~ ~ ~ ~-----
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>>729654558
Any Final Fantasy from 4 through 10 is a good starting point.
The first three Final Fantasies really haven't aged well at all, and a lot of the things that people love Final Fantasy for didn't really come into full fruition until 4.

Everything past 10 is not really recommended as a starting point, because after 10, Final Fantasy gets way too experimental with it's gameplay systems and genres and even presentation. Final Fantasy 14 is worth playing though, but moreso as a victory lap/encore for Final Fantasy fans rather than an entry point.
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>>729654483
>the indie scene solved that problem temporarily
Not really. By lowering the barrier of entry, you actually increased the level of low quality shit, so that it’s even harder to find quality.
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>>729661845
Kino reference to X-2 I’m guessing
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>>729657326
13's zones are just poorly designed. Compare any zone in FF13 to say, Mi'ihen Highroad in FFX.

Mi'ihen:
>Learn how to use Auron's piercing ability on new enemy types
>Meet Maechen, a recurring character, a scholar who you can talk to about the ruins
>Learn a new Ronso Rage ability from the Bomb fiend
>Meet Belgemine, a fellow summoner, and fight her
>Meet up with the Crusaders and hear about Operation Mi'ihen (foreshadowing)
> - Elma and Lucil
>You can choose to kick a kid's Blitzball
>Meet Shelinda, a recurring character who provides some background on Yevon
>Stay at Rin’s Travel Agency, talk to Rin, and stock up on supplies, and get a new Al Bhed Sphere
>Fight a boss (Chocobo eater)
>Ride a Chocobo to through previously unaccessable parts of the map to South Highroad
>Find Jecht Sphere where you learn that Braska's party previously fought The Chocobo eater
>Find O’aka XXIII, and choose to fund his ventures
>Run into Luzzu and Gatta, who are preparing for Operation Mi'ihen
>Have your first confrontation with Maester Seymour

Notice how traversal is broken up by things happening.
There are meaningful items that are scattered everywhere in this zone.
It is fixed camera, so you're always staring at something that a team of artists designed with intention to be aesthetically pleasing.
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>>729655043
>Nightmare creatures
I have the sequel, it was a really hard game for little old me, also scary. The intro with Rob Zombie is really cool
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>>729662676
>It is fixed camera
not fixed like previous FF but on rail, which allow for the best of both world
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E33 is literally game of the decade and all it did was just make a 90s/early 2000s squaresoft final fantasy.

It has proven that it would still have been the biggest franchise in gaming if square Enix got their shit together.
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>>729662676
>Giant literal straight line broken up by cutscenes every 20 feet
>"This is good actually"
You're joking, right? The Highroad is literally proto-13.
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>>729659982
zoomer
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>>729662940
E33 was fresh BECAUSE Square didn't stick with doing the same game forever for 30 years
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>>729662676
Literally 85% of what you described was a cutscene or a tutorial.
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>>729653640
FFX was trash.
Story was shit (tbf this is a staple of FF)
Combat was shit
Skill tree was shit
Voice acting was shit
Underwater FIFA was shit
All the money went into graphics
The game was only good if you played it as a kid and you have nostalgia goggles. Anyone getting into it now realizes it is trash.
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>>729662940
It feels like a turn-based ps4 game. Why can't you guys just call it a good game without trying to force the idea that it's just like the classics that you all clearly have never played? You guys are the biggest group of glazing faggots on this board.
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>>729663328
Pack it up boys zoomers finally found the thread
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Wow. I just ran through this place last night and fought this knucklehead. Looks like I missed a ton of stuff. FF12 rocks.
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People don't seem to appreciate mood piece type of games. Especially not autists and normalfags for almost the opposite reasoning.

Normalfags don't understand mood pieces they just want bombastic cool shit happening. Autists don't understand the concept of mood pieces they will just call the story shit not understanding it's not about the events but about the mood and emotions it invokes in you.

FFX is the perfect mood piece.
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>VII is the best
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>>729663423
I was 12 when ffX came out. I was busy playing good games like:
Halo
Silent hill 2
Baldurs gate 2
MGS2
Your ffx was one of the weakest releases that year by far
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>>729661358
Sakaguchi chads, we are so fuckin back
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>>729662863
Yes, my mistake. It's not always fixed like in the PS1 era. But it's a hybrid of a rail and fixed.
>>729663065
k
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>>729659982
>wolfencuck
lol
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>>729663419
Seen it happen with chainsaw man too. Zoomers like to latch onto something obviously middling and derivative and become wildly defensive when people point out the clear throughline of influence. They dont look back to the classics, they just eat what they're served.
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>>729660102
I would take blitzball over any card game any day
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>>729663821
samefagging
I mean, even in the PS1 era the camera does pan sometimes.
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>>729663576
Which one is then fag
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>>729663328
>nostalgia goggles
opinion discarded
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>>729664261
>no X-2 and last mission cheevos
You didn't beat the game.
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>>729663941
>even in the PS1 era the camera does pan sometimes.
no
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>>729664353
fuck X-2, i love the battle system but the mission system can go fuck itself
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I can't wait to play Blitzball.
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>>729660360
But those are nearly all terrible.
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>>729664361
to be clear, by no I mean it doesn't change the depth of the shot like FFX, the background scroll but that's it.
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>>729664481
Said the CHAD
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>>729664481
I want to be a blitzball when I grow up
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>>729655345
The fact that some of my favorites games on the PS4 (not getting a PS5 for just Rift Apart and Astro) is a remake trilogy for both Crash and Spyro is wild, even with their questionable art style changes, I still had FUN.
And on your image, what a banger of a year.
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>>729663419
The fuck you talking bout. My fav games are ff8 and ff10. I didn't like any other jrpg until e33
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>>729653640
If you want a hallway simulator with bad writing there are many
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>>729664481
that was snoys strategy, appeal to third worlders and your game will sell
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>>729664945
>I want to be the death of one of the deuteragonist
based
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>>729659145
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>>729665961
You know it’s true
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>>729659145
It would be fine with fewer random encounters interrupting. I'm glad X's trial dungeons don't have any encounters.
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>>729666732
Same
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>>729654558
i'm playing the undub for the first time. enjoying that japanese voice over, but i do think the english va, despite being wonky as shit (i think due to file size issues) has its charm
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>>729666397
You better not fucking ever play Daggerfall then. This is just a random early game dungeon btw.
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Ff10’s postgame is cursed.
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>>729658651
This dungeon ain’t that bad if you keep track of things on paper.
But you probably won’t know you needed that until it’s too late.
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>>729663461
I grew to appreciate it greatly after playing a ton of dungeon crawlers over the year. XII was such a remarkably designed game
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>>729668661
A lot of people seem to love it tho?
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>>729668754
>This dungeon ain’t that bad if you keep track of things on paper.

Perhaps the same could be said of all dungeons
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>>729668943
I never saw anyone say they enjoyed the 0.0s cursed chocobo thing and the lightning hopping 200x (everybody cheeses that).
Blitzball takes a lot of investment if you want to get Wakka’s ultimate weapon going, too.
The postgame has a lot of weird grinding that was even uncommon for the time, ps1 late game jrpg grinding usually was tamer.
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>>729667365
Jap voices could be interesting, but the trade off is having to put on subtitles, and not being able to stare solely at the important visual stuff, like Lulu's bewbs
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>>729668962
Smt dungeons sometimes had multi layered explorarion or stuff like black rooms and teleport traps.
Even if you were drawing a map it would take you a while longer than FF ones. The eventual backtracking with random encounters that sometimes were dangerous is annoying but you knew where you were supposed to go.
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>>729653640
people are just too nostalgic about this game. It's not that good, it's a product of its time. You spend like, 15 minutes in possibly the coolest looking city in any ff game ever, and half of it is cutscenes, the rest of the game is you and your party walking from island to island in a straight line while you're bombarded with random encounters with the same enemies, and then suddenly Rikku joins your party in the least organic way possible. Wanna use summons? Rewatch the same long ass animation every time. If that was done nowadays all of you would complain like the game is unplayable.
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The english cast and voices are good and really fit the characters imho.
The same cannot be said about how some lines are delivered, I guess that’s called directing? But the voices themselves are good.
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>>729669175
when people say they like ffx end game it's about the fights, not unlocking the celestial weapons.
>0.0s cursed chocobo
this shit is by far the easiest of the celestial minigames, I seriously question the ability of the average ff player to manipulate a stick
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>>729663837
Wolfenstein didn't get cucked until New Colossus. New Order wasn't cucked.
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This thread was nice while it lasted. Thanks /v/.
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>>729669279
>muh nostalgia
you weren't born
>actua-
I won't read your rebuttal
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>>729669571
Is it over?
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>>729659771
>good games
>emulator required to skip through the games
pick one
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>>729669343
Voice actors had some restrictions, having to match their lines with how the characters talk (in japanese)
Under those conditions, they did a good job
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>>729669602
I accept your concession
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>tfw give 1million gil to yojimbo and he rejects it
>give him 1 gil and he accepts
what was his fucking problem
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>>729669924
i proved you wrong with one screenshot, brownoid
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>>729653640
It’s the first game I played on my PS2. The OST makes me unironically cry
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I actually enjoy and find random encounters relaxing.
The sole exception is when you’re not sure if you checked one side of the dungeon, but then you realize you did and now you have to fight your way back.
But running away is usually easy in Final Fantasy
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Cycling everyone every fight in 10 so nobody lags behind sucks, too.
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>>729659982
Wolfenstein the New Order sucks my ass, shitty overwrought story aside. Painfully overrated fps just like the new DOOMs. The Old Blood was much better but still lacking imo.
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>>729670013
>i proved you wrong
i don't think you know what that means, Jamal
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>>729669279
Zoomer cope. Going from voxels to watching a beautiful summon animation that rivaled CGI movies of the day was peak. Never skipped a single one.
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>>729669525
the endgame fights are bad and not balanced. you steamroll early endgame, then monotonously quick attack late endgame bosses for 10-30 minutes.
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>>729659234
yes, but have you gotten to 1000 in jumprope in ff9? they even give you a special key item for it.
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>>729670249
>summon animation that rivaled CGI movies of the day was peak
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>>729659896
Ι liked blitzball, secret Aeons and the monster arena.
Cactuars and Al Bhed passwords were funny as well.
Fuck the butterflies, the chocobos and the lightning though.
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>>729670008
he felt your desperation
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Where is Midgar...I don't understand...was it like flooded or soemthing
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>>729670332
>then monotonously quick attack late endgame bosses for 10-30 minutes.
yeah you never did the end game, the only end boss that fits that description is penance, and it still engaging because you have to keep track of his hidden mechanics or shit can quickly hit the fan.
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>>729653886
>1994~2010
That's no mistake, Anon
That WAS the golden age of gaming
When new ideas were totally ok because games were relatively cheap to make
Tech would progress, so you could do and have more, but creativity began to suffer, because safe bets somewhat guaranteed more returns
Then normies got supercharged and became the sole demographic, who doesn't care about gameplay or unique vibes, they want pretty new movies every month and a half they occasionally play in between hours of open world wandering, QTEs, and walk alongs, which costs so much to make, that pretty much every game will become more or less just like every other, but with the sole difference of being a particular IP
>>729653931
This scene is kinda like Nicholas Cage or Nickelback, you either see and appreciate it for what it is, or you don't
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I blame the Al-Bhed.
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>>729670227
>you proved me right by showing that you're still spamming the shit out of the game even though I claimed you're just nostalgic
take your L already you subhuman shitskin, you weren't born.
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>>729653886
7th gen was not the golden age of gaming lmao, if anything 6th heralded the beginning of the end with so many disappointing sequels
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>>729667365
You miss out on a lot of the English quirky moments but the Jap dub does make a lot of scenes flow more naturally.
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>>729670687
Wakka please
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>>729653640
Hallway simulators that you watch more than you play?
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>>729670608
shut up ho
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>>729670690
how does showing that you played the game on steam prove that you're not nostalgic about it you subhuman retard? I played the game on the ps2 and i have it on the ps4/5.
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zaon.... forgive me...
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>>729670885
you're just arguing in bad faith then, thank you for wasting my time
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>>729670978
Stop replying to bait, asshole
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>>729670964
if it was just nostalgia i wouldn't still be playing it you retard. You know what I have nostalgia for? mighty moprhin power rangers. you know why I don't rewatch it? because it's so fucking bad i drop it after one episode. mongoloid.
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>>729670978
no I'm not. everything I said is fucking true. 99999 all day.
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Is there really no 60 fps version?
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>>729671041
>i don't watch/play things that i have nostalgia for because they're bad
shit for brains
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>>729671213
PS2 is the 60fps version
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>>729670776
>Halo 2
>Melee (like it or not)
>THPS and THUG
>RE4
>GTA3
>Soul Calibur 2
>MvC2
>A fuckton more
Nigga what?
Or do you mean console sequels?
If that's the case, I agree
Gen 6 was the last gen for games and gamers
Gen 7 was the on ramp for normies, corpo shit like dlc, diminishing returns that deliver little difference than the previous system unless you're a open world obsessed immersionfag, and eventually subscriptions
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>>729653640
FFX remastered modded is the definitive way to play FFX.
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ugh... okay I'll replay it in Japanese. It's been 23 years man, I still remember it like it was yesterday
The bosses kicked my ass man.

The best team still is Yuna Tidus Aaron right?
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>>729671291
yes you fucking retard, the whole point of nostalgia is it clouds your memories. You don't enjoy things in a vacuum but in a context, and context change as you grow older.
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>>729660219
shut the fuck up nigger, PS1/N64 3D games are awesome and the PS1 and Saturn have a shitload of amazing 2D games anyway.
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>>729671450
there is no best team, the game is designed to make you switch characters mid combat during the main story
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>>729671450
A-A-Ron??
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>>729671297
Original ps2 you mean?
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>>729671570
Nobody did that
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>>729671639
Japanese Auron is Aaron.
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>>729671570
This, although >>729671450, I personally prefer rikku, tidus and yuna for meta play
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>>729671694
Yeah
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>>729671745
yes bro you just kept missing shots on flyers and hit for 10 dmg on elemental until they died when switching took 1 sec
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Lulu broke my three joysticks.
Damned overdrive and goth titties…
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>>729671851
yes.
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>>729670776
you are clearly retarded or very biased if you cannot recognized the good games that came out during the early days of the Wii/XBOX 360/PS3
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>>729672180
i didn't say there weren't good games, I implied the majority were shit and I am factually correct.
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>>729654810
I don't ever read any explanation of why the game is that good beyond the soundtrack.
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>>729671787
But every version of the game runs at 30 fps anon. It's just that there is a version running at 50hz instead of 60hz.
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>>729670776
7th gen has a lot of the best games ever.
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>>729672618
suhjazz?
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>>729672618
you have shit taste and you are the reason modern gaming is trash
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>>729671297
so none of the remasters are 60fps then? i want to achievement fag it on ps4/ps5, but fuck that ill just emulate the ps2 version then
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>>729672676
Diddy Kong Racing... Zelda, Mother...
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Reminder, you should only play an emulated version of both X and X-2. The ports are garbage and no mods come close to fixing how botched the facial animations / lighting is compared to the original.
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>>729653640
I have good news for you
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>>729672812
Nothing is 60 frames per second.
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>>729672812
>>729672849
if you play the emulation you'll have to pick between the NTSC version which doesn't have the extra content of the international version (including expert grid), or the PAL version which is sluggish.
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>>729672895
Final Fantasy VII Ubislop edition
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>>729672895
Not at all like they used to make them
This garbage couldn't be more modernized gaming meme slop
You should be ashamed of yourself for even suggesting 7Re is like 10 in any way
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>>729671378
Is there a mod to fix the battle menus from being so unresponsive?
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>>729672937
The international version allows English Dialogue option. PAL and NTSC don't really support true 60 fps anyway so PAL version it is.

I did see a mod that actually gave me hope for buying the remake though.

https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasyxx2hdremaster/mods/227
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>>729671450
Auron's agility is too low to be the best :(
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>>729673124
No. I thought I was the only one driven mad by it.
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>>729673243
He is the coolest, for whatever that's worth
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>>729673243
>>729671450
Agility doesn't matter since you can redo your sphere grid to give everyone max stats and all abilities.

Only thing that matter is Overdrives. Best team is Tidus, Wakka and Rikku. Though Auron is certainly cooler than Rikku.
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>>729673175
>PAL and NTSC don't really support true 60 fps anyway so PAL version it is.
it feels like playing underwater but you do you.
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>>729673243
Auron has guard and sentinel so he basically buys you free turns. If you slap on a counter he basically attacks at every enemy's turns.
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>>729673175
Why wouldn't you go International?
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>>729673124
>>729673327
I never had this issue. I'm using untitled project X in case you're wondering.
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>>729673470
PAL is the international version, NA got what is generally reserved to japan: an early but inferior version.
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>>729673567
Compare to a ps2 version and see if you notice it. It's a sensitive change so "never had it" can be doubtful.
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>>729673393
I'll probably buy the remake at some point and mod it. The graphical glitches on emulation are annoying and Pbirdman's translation for FFX-2 Last Mission is old and outdated.

>>729673470
Of course I would go International? It's been a while but International is JP release but comes with English dialogue option so it runs at 60fps but isn't true 60 fps anyway, so >>729673581 is wrong in that you can have 60 fps and international content.

Plus I'm pretty sure the return home glitch works on International only for what it's worth.
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>>729672676
>>729672723
New Vegas, Dragon's Dogma, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, inFamous, Prototype, Rune Factory 3, Mario Galaxy, BioShock and Dragon Age Origins mog 99% of all games ever made. Sorry you can't deal with reality, faggots.
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>>729654705
>Do English audio
why would anyone play the extremely inferior dub. only wakka's voice is any decent
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>>729673581
Pal is International content but tuned for 50hz displays so it runs slower. International is best of both worlds.
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>>729673675
Sure but probably long after the thread is dead. I'm at work.
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>>729673705
What are some graphical glitches?
Just curious.
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>>729673710
all shit.
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>>729673710
You are someone who was a teenager during the 360/ps3 era and you never emotionally matured into adulthood so you forever live in the past.

A lot of those games are good, very good in fact, but you are extremely defensive and insecure about your taste in video games because you tie them to your actual identity subconsciously. Because again, you never emotionally matured past the point in your life when those games were new and everything was exciting for you.
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>>729673705
Saying 60fps is misleading. It's 30fps but 60hz.
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>>729673736
PAL IS the international version, it just got renamed to just FFX unlike japan which is FFX: International. NTSC on the other end is not the international version. The only international version that run as 60hz is the japanese version.
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>>729673756
Just saying. Memory cursor where you can spam commands fast makes it more noticeable too
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>Otherworld plays
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>>729673064
>Flawless deep combat
>Great characters
>Great story
>Great art direction
>Great OST
>Waifus
>Good graphics
>Lots of content
>Memorable moments that stay with you long after the game ends
This is a 10/10 game
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>>729673818
Mostly just the menu / text having weird alignment even if adjusted manually in PCSX2. There is still a few pixels.

But other than that the best way to play is NTSC-J International and then either choose Jap audio which has English subs I believe or just the dub.

You could also get the remake and mod it.

>>729673879
Yeah I said in my previous comment but didn't clarifying when replying it's not really 60 FPS but is still better than the PAL version.
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>ffx
>good
poor man's chrono cross
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>>729673886
If you go by that naming sure. I assumed International meant Jap International since everybody calls the one released in Europe Pal.
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>>729673860
I'm not even the original poster you were replying to, I was just pointing out that 7th gen has a lot of the best games ever. I'm not saying other gens are bad. I own a lot of actual SNES, Genesis, PS1 and PS2 games, rare ones too like the .Hack Quadrilogy and MML1/2, Klonoa, Shadow Tower etc. I love older games. I just also acknowledge that 7th gen, despite having a ton of garbage FPS games, also produced some insane titles.
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>>729673947
Sure but the fact I haven't noticed this tells me it's a nothingburger. I'll still test it later since it's been 20+ years since I touched it on my PS2.
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>>729654558
i played VI, VII, IX and X recently for the first time and am not a nostalgiafag. VI, VII and IX are amazing games, X is awful.
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>>729673982
I hate women.
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>>729655570
which is impressive because the context is in that very same fucking cutscene
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>>729674008
Oh right the menu lines as a result of the upscaling. I can live with that though it would be nice if somebody made new icons ro dump or whatever it is
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>>729673982
you forgot the part where 80% of the game is mindless tedious filler padding out the game and completely wasting your time. This character especially only exists to waste the player's time.
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>>729674137
>the fact I haven't noticed this tells me it's a nothingburger
No. It means it's a nothingburger for you.
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>>729674198
To be fair having checked that one guy's model mods on Nexus I'm tempted to actually bite the bullet and buy the remake.

The models are the only thing pissing me off but I'm also concerned even if the models are redone it won't capture the facial animations at pivitol moments, the Yunalesca cutscene being a major one. Yuna's expressions in that scene are amazing.
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>>729674337
No it tells me you're autistic
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>>729674068
ok but i don't believe the japanese version has english sub/dub?
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>>729653640
Enjoy the best FF game in the series bro. If you decide to play the rest expect all of them to be inferior
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>>729674364
I tried the models. They look ok, though I couldn't stomach the rest of the remake changes to reach Yunalesca. If it's literally the ONLY thing stopping you then it's worth a try.
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>>729674364
The improved music alone makes the remaster better
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>>729674389
Why did you get so defensive and dismissive though?
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>>729674420
It does. And I know it does because I tried it a few months ago.

Only thing I'm sure about is if it has Jap audio with English subs but I know for certain it has the English dub and subs.

>>729674496
>Improved

Bait.
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>>729674420
Jap International has Eng Dub and I think you choose the menu language.
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>>729674561
what about the interface though?
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>>729674420
>ok but i don't believe the japanese version has english sub/dub?
https://cdromance.org/ps2-iso/final-fantasy-x-international-english-patched/

follow the instructions on the page to get the game to have english subtitles. in game, the menus are all in english as well. Oh and, X and O are reversed for select/cancel because its a japanese game.
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>>729674561
>Called it bait when it's the truth
You're in-denial
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>>729660406
My man, you have to put notes on those comparison images or every uninformed zoomer will think the left one is the original one and that people are just wearing nostalgia goggles. Happens every time.
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>>729674642
other pic as well
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>>729674642
>Oh and, X and O are reversed for select/cancel because its a japanese game.
>FF7 chads: as it should be
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>>729674476
What other changes fuck up the game? I didn't get the remake for the models alone but I wanted to know if it botches anything else.

>>729674620
Anon, everything is in English if you choose it as an option. The subtitles I'm not sure about but basically you can play the game as if you're playing the standard version NA got but with 60 hz and Dark Aeons ect.

>>729674648
Last (You) from me. I'd rather you stay baiting the other anon to keep the thread alive.
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>>729674670
this can't be real
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>>729674715
>FF7 chads:
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>>729674538
Because muh menus is such a nothingissue to pick at. It can't be anything but autism.
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>>729674724
>reddit spacing nigger
go back
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>>729673982
>muh diet dmc coombat
>more anime in character personalities, while ditching most of the anime aesthetic
>desperate to be different from the original while occasionally coloring inside the lines
>90% realistic + 10% anime, resulting in boring or unintentionally creepy designs in non human characters
>OST is actually pretty good
>muh hyper focused waifu faggotry
>muh grafix
>qte/open world wandering/ minigame bloat-palooza
>Some decent scenes, drowned out by bloat and tryhard subversion
As a game itself, it's a solid 6/10
As a revisit, 2/10
idgaf if they backpedaled and said it's a reimagining, not actual remake, even though they fucking subtitled the first as remake, deliberately misleading under informed consumers
Fuck the entire 7Re endeavor
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>>729674724
>What other changes fuck up the game?
Ruined the lighting and the clouds/sky in some scenes and the menus feel less responsive. Unsure if the new models animate as well as the original as I said.
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>>729674892
>OST is actually pretty good
its true, and when i replayed the OG FFVII i actually modded the remakes OST into it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2_peI8GrOM
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>>729674821
Sounds like a very weak argument you are making here for the people talking about an issue they have with the game. Whatever works for you anon. For you.
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>>729674795
Watch the Yunalesca cutscene and you will see how bad it is in the remake. Yuna stares like an empty porcelain doll compared to the original where she'll clearly forcing herself to say her piece to Yunalesca regarding her father.

>>729674916
Oh yeah, now I remember. The sunset at Mi'hen Highroad looked fucking terrible.
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>>729675016
Muh menus is a weak argument to begin with.
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The problem with FFX is Tidus and Yuna are 2 of the most unlikeable characters in FF history. I fucking hate them so much goddammit. Nostalgia addled faggots and girrlgamers are the only people who like them.
The rest of the game is pretty good tho if a bit boring in the middle third and poorly directed.
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>>729664189
nta but x. 6 and 7 are objectively pretty equal, personal taste will lead to you putting one over the other
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>>729675086
Framing it as "muh menus" already sounds like a desperate attempt to dismiss it. Is that all you have to say for the topic? If so, thanks for your input.
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>>729675161
>Nostalgia
opinion discarded
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>>729675241
Muh menus is accurate since it's really nothing.
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>>729654558
X is the outlier in the franchise because it's one of the few straight turn based games, but it has all the systematic autism that is the series actual trademark so it's by no means a bad entry for first timers
The dub isn't 10/10, but for FFs not set in or pretending to be set in Ivalice it's the best the series gets, and can make Tidus out to be a bit more of a whiny bitch than the circumstances really mean to, which is why people meme about shit like >>729653931 to this day, but playing in jp audio makes the dubtitles (no one has ever bothered to retranslate the game and SE refuses to release it with actual dual audio) get very out of sync in some important scenes.
If you want everything, play the international PS2 version (this is also the easiest to find undubbed if you care to), or just play the original version and move on to that for replays (it mostly just adds alternatives for the progression system and a bunch of secret bosses that can soft lock you out of certain content by being post-postgame content you need nearly maxed out stats for)
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>>729675307
Repeating an opinion does not make it a fact.
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>>729675362
Denying reality doesn't make it wrong.
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>>729674552
Sex
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>>729675435
The reality that people notice the little sliding animation the new battle UI has to do every time you input a new command?
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>>729675307
Navigating menus is like 99% of the gameplay though.
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>>729671570
>there is no best team
>the quick hit stonetouch deathtouch mix Tidus/Rikku death squad isn't the best team
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>>729653931
it's a good scene with god awful voice acting
no different from the rest of the game, which also has god awful voice acting
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>>729675709
Depends on the kind of challenge. Though the underwater trio is easily the most versatile.
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>>729675596
>>729675647
Again you don't even notice it unless you're autistic. I've played the original FFX and remaster multiple times and it was never an issue.
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My last 3 replays I got Rikku, then Lulu, and lastly Yuna as my chosen gfs, and I have no idea what choices affected the results.
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>>729656742
Final Fantasy 9 is painfully slow especially towards the end.
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>>729673731
You're a retarded faggot and probably brown
never ever reply to me again you dumb motherfucker
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>>729675786
Insulting someone for noticing it is not an argument. It might have been nothing to you but I could clearly feel it since I input commands very quickly. That's why I gave you advice on how to make it easier to notice it when doing a comparison. Then you were mad as if I was blasphemous about your beloved remaster or something.
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>>729675786
It's noticeable even if you aren't autistic, menus are just sluggish. I'm not bothered enough by it to not play the HD version, but it really shouldn't have been that way to begin with. Snappy responsive menus feel much better.
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>>729675858
It's some minor choices + who you talk to first during the downtime between the story beats I think.
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>>729676001
I was simply pointing out the obvious. It's not my fault you got offended.
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>>729676081
"The obvious", "the fact", "the truth". I think you are beginning to sound like a clown at this point.
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>>729675868
It's my only real gripe with an otherwise amazing game, but its so noticeable that I would never suggest it to someone who's never played FF before unless they already play slower games. FF9 should have not used atb
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>>729676252
Said the clown picking at muh menus. The zero-self awareness crowd are surely the most entertaining bunch.
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>>729676292
it wouldn't be half as bad without the combat intro
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>>729674795
Oh, it's real alright. They all got turned into creepy mannequins.
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>>729653640
>sports are a kind of church
>"CANCEL THE SPORTS, THE HERETICS MUST PAY"
>wtf bro
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>>729676375
You keep repeating the same argument that people are autistic and bad for noticing something. At least you have made a public display of your embarrassing act for every9one to read so I will just make this my last reply.
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>>729675897
>t. actual ESL who has a boner for english for some reason
the dub is horrible and the japanese voices are vastly superior in every single way. No amount of coping, seething, or dilating will change this.
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>>729676507
>every9one
>So mad he can't even be asked to proofread xis own posts.
The shell is cracking, lmao.
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>>729675161
retard
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I like blitzball
It's fun to go around the world and recruit new players or steal good ones, and leveling up your team is fun too
If you didnt like it you probably dont like fun
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>>729676782
It's funny how the characters look different in combat, cutscenes, and CGI scenes, and the remaster created another set of different looking character models
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>>729677093
They're so Asian in the cutscenes
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>>729668873
I am loving it so far. The presentation is really one of a kind. Something about the stellar english dub with the very dramatic, shakespearean line deliveries combined with the all of these really foreign sounding proper nouns makes the whole thing feel simultaneously familiar and exotic. Its peak fantasy.
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>>729677483
this cutscene looks like you'd see it in a need for speed game
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>>729677483
yuna and lulul look great in the cgi cutscenes but rikku is a downgrade
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>>729677093
Square lost most of the assets of the game; even the shading and lighting are fucked. The characters have less emotion and are lower geometry. It's really funny because back in the day the game literally marketed the Emotion Engine with all these advanced models and animations; it was groundbreaking at the time.
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>>729676782
Wow the HD remaster looks so much better
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>>729678018
Asian Wakka is burned into my skull.
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>>729678018
>Square lost most of the assets of the game

Shut the fuck up retard. This lie gets parroted as an excuse for every fucked up remaster Square outsources to Chinese interns. It was never true and anyone who thinks it's true is a fucking moron like you. The assets are literally right there in the game. You think modders can grab the models from the game files and the literal developer can't? The models were replaced out of incompetence, not any "lost source code".
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>>729678037
Retarded bait is retarded
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>>729678507
>gummy wakka isn't real, he can't hurt you
>gummy wakka:
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>>729678018
>Square lost most of the assets of the game
Do you actually believe that? How naive do you have to be to not instantly realize that was an excuse to redo the graphics as a selling point for their demaster to sell a game that came out in 2001 or whatever the fuck for $40
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>>729678526
This. Square just gave zero fucks and did not check what the fuck the chink devs were doing. There are even mods now that try to fix the remaster models with the original textures.
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Vorefags be like >>729678507
>>729678582
>Still fell for it award
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>>729678636
Square Enix never even claimed that, it's something they said about the Kingdom Hearts remaster many years ago and retards on /v/ keep attaching the quote (which was bullshit originally too) to every single new Square Enix remaster.
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>>729657252
The PSX era was truly magical. Not 1998 but PE2 is my all-time favourite.
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>>729659737
Do people actually complain about dungeons in FF12 outside of Great Crystal? There's nothing worth complaining about i don't get it
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>>729678745
Do the ps2 mods really "fix" the shitty remaster? I'm willing to try it with all the other shit it improved but I'm still reluctant.
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>>729678852
They fix the party character models so they are not jarring. They can't fix the shitty remaster lighting. And since the remaster does not even have better inventory menus there really is no point in not just emulating the international version.
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>>729678957
Did you see this before?
https://www.nexusmods.com/finalfantasyxx2hdremaster/mods/241?tab=posts
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>>729653640
>linear cinematic faux rpg
Anon, those still get made.
>>729653886
>2010
Nope.
>>729659982
>>729660360
>zoomer desperately trying to tether his childhood slop to actual good games
Anon, I'm sorry, but you missed out.
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>>729679064
Might check that out. Reshades do have the problem that they don't have scene unique settings. What looks good in Besaid might not look good in Bevelle.
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>>729679254
I'll try it out with my latest playthrough of FFX HD along with hundreds of gigabytes of texture mods. I want to give the shitty remaster the best chance possible to impress me.
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>>729658834
That's as much of a corridor as most of the stuff being accused as being corridors in FFX though.
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FFX's level design could have been better but it's still way better than FFXIII because it had actual variety and distractions. In FFX you could stumble across an NPC who'd go on a lore lecture about a random statue. In FFXIII it was nothing but run, combat, cutscene non-stop, with only a couple small exceptions (there's a couple sequences where you walk past a string of NPCs with 1-2 lines of dialogue). Execution matters.
The original FFVII definitely hit the sweet spot.
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For those taking their time with the game, reminder to backtrack all the way to Besaid after Spherimorph. Tons of NPC dialogue that's missable once things progress and you can steal some neat things, recruit blitzers and collect the Jecht Spheres.
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>>729678526
LMAO u angry mate? Lurk more

"I'm embarrassed to admit it, but in some cases, we don't know where the code is anymore. It's very hard to find them sometimes, because back in the day you just made them and put them out there and you were done – you didn't think of how you were going to sell them down the road. Sometimes customers ask, 'Why haven't you released that [game] yet?' And the truth of the matter is it's because we don't know where it has gone."

https://gameinformer.com/e3-2019/2019/06/12/square-enix-committed-to-making-its-complete-library-available-digitally

You can reverse engineer the retail disc data to get some stuff back but NEVER the source code , and the PS2 version uses specifc data that only works on PS2 hardware for animations and that needs to be converted and they lost it, thats why the remaster has rushed Kingdon Hearts faces remade from scratch.
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>>729680063
Imagine being such a dimwit you actually believe that shit then toss your wallet at his face to buy the demaster of a 20 year old game.
Genuinely too stupid to live
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I realized on my replay that Seymour himself released the fiends at the Luca tournament
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>>729680063
Thanks for setting the record straight

Never trust what these seething haters spew out
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>>729680213
NTA but you've been moving the goalposts (Square-Enix never said it -> Square-Enix just lied) and making retarded strawmen (anon never defended the remaster).
You are genuinely too angry to think straight.
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>>729653640
Good thing you only played it now then. With the success E33 this year, the future for these kinds of games is looking bright.
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>>729661798
Is this an okay substitute if I don’t have a Piss2 to play the original on?
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>>729680213
wut? never bought the remaster lol , I play the PS2 version every single time , I hate the remaster to the bone and I dont give a single fuck if you believe they lost the data or not. In any case the remaster is SHIT and no mods will fix it to perfection!
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>>729680616
It’s really not man just emulate the PS2 version
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>>729678768
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_KkstwXaO0
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>>729680616
yes it's fine, it also come with nice qol like commands to speed up the game or disable random encounters
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>>729680793
That's so hot...
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>>729674221
>This character especially only exists to waste the player's time.
Completely agree with what this anon said but this part in particular is what made the open world parts suck. You cannot go 5 minutes without this fucker or his transgender clone opening their mouths and everything related to the open world ultimately revolves around going back to him and doing shit in his stupid VR battle simulator.
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>>729679348
>hundreds of gigabytes of texture mods
its a 4gb ps2 game nigga
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>>729680921
>just cheat bro
Fuck off nigger
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>>729680445
I never said they never said it dumbfuck bootlicking retard, learn to differentiate posters
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>>729681002
>turning off the boring canon fodder when all you want is to explore is cheating
kys
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>>729680991
Retard
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>>729681002
How is speed up cheating in a JRPG?
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>>729681105
You deserve to by lynched in the town square for being a HD demaster defender. Kill your fucking self.
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>>729680742
What’s the best Piss2 emulator to use? Haven’t emulated any Piss2 games before.
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>>729681427
PCSX2
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>>729681230
no
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>>729681427
pcsx2 is the only ps2 emu
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>>729681427
PS3
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>>729681623
Only the original not the slim
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>>729681545
>One Flop Man
I knew you were a nigger
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>>729681692
what you gonna do about it?
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>>729681739
NTA but sell me the HD remaster and why it's better than the PS2 original. This thread is filled with retards and it makes it hard to come to a conclusion.
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>>729681815
kill yourself nigger2
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>>729653640
How embarrassing
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>>729681815
>samefagging this hard
obvious samefagging is obvious
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>>729681815
the HD remaster has inferior graphics and "cheats" as the other schizo refers them to, such as disable combat (you can only do that toward the end by crafting equipment), increase the speed of the game and some more that i forgot but those two are the most interesting one, especially for veterants. Beside that it's the same game as the original, and by the original I mean the international version, which is the definitive version with all the extra content. The NTSC version was NOT the international version unlike the PAL and NTSC-J version, so if you play the emulation you want either PAL or NTSC. PAL is sluggish because of 50hz so you might want the japanese version. Apparently you can play in english in the japanese version but i don't know for a fact.
TLDR: just get the remaster if you're playing for the first time (you won't be able to tell it has worst graphics) and don't want a headache, it's the same game with benefits.
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>>729682115
>such as disable combat (you can only do that toward the end by crafting equipment
I meant in the original game you could only do that with crafting/dropping gear in end game
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>>729682178
>you want either PAL or NTSC
*or NTSC-J (japan)
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>>729653640
it's magical, isn't it?
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>>729681815
You a seething fag
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>>729682115
I'll probably just get the remaster like you said and mod it so it's closer to the PS2 version as much as possible. Thanks anon.
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>>729682518
yeah i haven't tried those mods but if they restore the good graphics you'll have the best of both world. You can change it at will but make sure to use the original soundtrack and not the remastered one which is pretty crap,
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>>729678582
I don't even know about good or bad, what fucks with me is that the face is just completely new. That's not Tidus that's someone else. As a little kid I liked Tidus since he looked a lot like my older brother, but in the HD remaster there's really no resemblance. I think the faces are worse, especially Yuna who got cartoonified. Both look a lot less believably human.

Also, because of the model change, in the HD remaster the CGI cut-scenes don't really look anything like the in-game character models. I've replayed the HD remaster a few times by now and I can't help but laugh at every one of those moments since my first thought is "who the fuck is that?".
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These days it feels like JRPGs are so unambitious. Everything AAA or AA is a sequel or a remake. Everything indie is smaller scale projects with short runtime that rely on presentation to sell and have little thought but into the gameplay.
Expedition 33 and Metaphor refantazio are really the only recent games that tried to do something, which is why they are so praised but really they aren't innovative games at all. They are just the only new ips that put in some degree of effort.
And waiting for japanese games to get translated doesn't even cut it anymore, now that tobiden is translated rance X is the only notable untranslated game left (and its a sequel anyway).
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>>729682669
I thought the remastered OST was supposed to be an improvement? That's what other forums and videos were saying.
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>>729682684
>CGI cut-scenes don't really look anything like the in-game character models.
As in the original
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>>729682751
nta, no it's way worse. Whoever mixed the audio was a retard
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>>729682751
Lol
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>>729682751
it really isn't, they often sound. the audio mixing is all over the place, it sounds like a mashup of different covers. some fantastic tracks have been straight up massacred like "Challenge" or Yuna's theme. Complete travesty.
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>>729682751
I'm a musician and the remastered OST is something the original devs would have wanted if not for the limited tech back then.
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>>729683109
>I'm a musician
Who cares
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>>729683109
>the limited tech back then.
what the fuck are you talking about lmao
>I'm a musician
you're a faggot
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>>729683109
Playing smoke on the water doesnt and having a soundcloud account doesnt make you a musician you stupid cunt
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>>729682518
Make sure you install untitled project x
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>>729683109
really upset the ps2 nostalgia cucks with this trvke
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>>729653640
I'll never understand why this game gets such glaze, my disappointment even coming from 8 & 9 was severe back in the day. Getting rid of ATB was a good move but standard battles are the slowest game of 'put the square object in the square hole' imaginable and you'll be doing it over and over... bores the shite out of me. Subjectively I hate the the cast and I'm not a fan of the world being reduced to a series of corridors but i'd tolerate it if not for the combat being so dull
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>this level of malding and aggression
That's how you know you are on the right side of history
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>>729683305
Why did you reply to yourself
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>>729683305
nobuo still used the roland's sc-88 pro even though he had better hardware at the time, he clearly didn't mean for the soundtrack to sound like whatever the fuck this remaster is
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>>729682518
like >>729682518 said, if only for the option to give xp to all your team without having to hit once with them. Trust me it's a must needed qol.
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>>729654810
E33 looks way too much like stock UE5 to make me ever think it's PS2-adjacent.
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>>729660219
my hot take is most games peaked with their first 3d game.
Mario
Sonic
Zelda
Final Fantasy
Megaman



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