It will make keeping lore consistency across multiple titles much easier and help introduce complex ramifications to the player choices and quest outcomes, also permitting easier localization (both text and voice) while improving NPC response variety, helping immersion and introducing additional challenge.As far as I can see, it is already able to do a better job than purple haired millennial women in writing quality and pajeets in programming, so hopefully it will get this people out of these jobs before the collapse of the sector would have done anyways.
>>729657683true, my wife will be AI
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>>729657683>shitty autocomplete on steroids known for making shit up and losing context after few query iterations will make keeping lore consistency across multiple titles much easier and help introduce complex ramifications to the player choices and quest outcomesI really hope Open AI is paying you because I can't imagine how big of a retard you'd have to be if you dis this shit for free.
>>729660010>true, my wife will be AIArtificially imagined kek
I am pro-AI but there have been like 5 seperate AI threads on /v/ that aren't even discussing more than one game. This is excessive. Take it to /g/ before mods start deleting all these threads.
>>729657683Are videogames going to be cheaper though?
>>729660728Not a chance. Remember when they said digital download releases would make games cheaper?
>>729660440hallucinations will be solved very soon, human slop npc
>>729660530more = better
>>729660728they generally are cheaper if you don't look at AAA slopand if you can't afford vidya you can pirate.
>>729657683I dont know man. We said the same thing about porn games and now they all look like the same fucking dogshit and while being also shit to play and have somehow even worse writing.
AI is trannytech
No, I don’t want AI in any game I play. I want my games made by White Men and Japanese people. I don’t want some Indian to generate game dialogue, music, visuals or gameplay. It devalues our games.
>>729660973AI is superior
>>729657683you need a metric fuck ton of VRAM to run these models. it's gonna be run from a server where they charge you per npc response>upgrade to the premium goy israel donation and you can get a happy ending to this quest!
So true. Bot AAA fags AND indie shitters will benefit greatly because they'll be able to shit out shovelwarw faster and more cheaply while insisting they must be paid more for all their "hard work".
>>729661094Name a single good AI game. Also post your hand with timestamp to prove you’re not subhuman.
>>729657683>It will make keeping lore consistency across multiple titles much easierlmaooooooooooooooooo The few games that use LLMs can't even maintain consistency in a single conversation
>>729661127you don't need to run frontier LLM inside the game. you have models that can run on phones. obviously you'd need to implement it well to not end up in slop and most people won't do that.>>729661338true but also skill issue from developer, you can maintain consistency with system prompts
>>729657683>DUUUURRRR AI WILL WRITE TEXT AND THAT IS GUDI don't want AI to write shitty nonsensical plots so that Mr. Shekelsberg doesn't have to spend money on a writing team.I want random NPCs to actually have a life of their own, I want AI drivers in racing games to actually react to what happens on the track, I want enemy NPCs to adapt and create tactics on the spot depending on what the player is doing. This is how AI should be used in videogames.
>>729661494Anon, what is your country of birth and what skin colour do you have?
>>729660973Good news! White men are writing your games. They just wear makeup and call themselves women.
>>729661695eastern europe. there's only one skin color here
>>729660773>hallucinations will be solved very soonLet me guess, it was revealed to you in a dream, right?Here's word from your ''gods'' at Open AIhttps://www.computerworld.com/article/4059383/openai-admits-ai-hallucinations-are-mathematically-inevitable-not-just-engineering-flaws.html
>>729657683Why do AI fags keep talking in future tense? What are we waiting exactly? I thought models we're already useful and powerful enough for all these things. I feel i have been reading this same post for three years now
>>729657683>AI slop will do this and that>bit games will still be shit, expensive, broken and 40 bucks dlc's thanks for nothing faggots
>>729657683>It will make keeping lore consistency across multiple titles much easierThat is literally the worst thing you could attempt to use AI for. LLMs have no memory. It'll hallucinate 5 different variants of lore on a single subject, all made up on the spot.
>>729657683>Generative AI will be greatly beneficial to the gaming industry and the RPG genre in particularLOL good one
>>729657683when
>>729661929>OpenAI, the creator of ChatGPT, acknowledged in its own research that large language models will always produce hallucinations>due to fundamental mathematical constraints that cannot be solved through better engineering, marking a significant admission>from one of the AI industry’s leading companies.>The study, published on September 4 and led by OpenAI researchers Adam Tauman Kalai, Edwin Zhang, and Ofir Nachum>alongside Georgia Tech’s Santosh S. Vempala, provided a comprehensive mathematical framework explaining why AI systems>must generate plausible but false information even when trained on perfect data.lel
>>729657683>LLMs>consistency lol
>AI will keep lore consistencyTop kek. LMAO even.I asked google AI about an issue with something, it started giving me advice that only worked on a different product, and I only found out it did when I said the command didn't work and the AI said "yeah, that command doesn't exist for your version". I asked it about getting access to the Dell FTP server, and it said it was just anonymous login. I told it that didn't work, THEN it told me the FTP was completely gone since early 2025. AI can't even keep a coherent thought through a single question, it has no hope of maintaining lore with anything approaching consistency.
>>729657683>JUST ONE MORE GIGAWATT DATA CENTER SAARS
>>729661695Polish, white
>complex ramifications to the player choices and quest outcomesGreat, a billion more meaningless ways to resolve quests
>>729657683Hey AI faggots can I also expect you to all fuck off 4chan if you can just simulate an imageboard?
>>729662465it's already simulated, lol
>>729657683It cant get its story straight about the swimming pool in the titanic, so how is it gonna hold together an elaborate high fantasy setting? Checkmate, liberal
>>729660773So, what now imbecile?Cat got your tongue?
>>729662352average bot is already smarter than you
>>729662416>polish>whitelol>>729661868>Eastern EuropeA slav speaking of high Aryan art like video games? Of course you would like AI, it involves stealing the work of others, which is quite cultural of your peopleNow both of you, name one good game that used Ai
brown person thread ( elon cuck favorite audience )
>>729662842>retard burger complains about poles or slavs when they can produce shit like witcher series while burger run corpos make Tortanic or Concordlel
>>729662743>smarter than youWell actually transformer algorithm isn't smart at all. It just connects the dots based on probability factor.
>>729662687you'll see next year
>>729662106>no actual argument made
>>729660440This is exactly what I thought, fucking """AI""" can't even remember back to a couple prompts, imagine trying to manage a game's lore lmao
>>729662842>mutt moment when two people who replied are whiter than himoof
>>729660530>before mods start deleting all these threads.
Daily reminder to use deepseek to help Chinese models learn faster and fuck the mutts out of the business.
>>729666362Deepseek is an absolute schizo.
>>729660518AI gets me more than those meaty hags
>>729667564Is it as schizo as gpt 5.2? I swear a woman made this model, it brings up shit you said 50 messages ago to berate you for it(I made this mistake of telling it I didnt care if something was recursive)
This flamebait gets to stay but the Jerma thread doesn't?
>anti AI niggers are eceleb niggersWhy am I not surprised.
>>729657683>consistency>AIwhat?
>>729660518Juggernauted that jeet
>>729660773sorry to break it to you but no matter how much you refine llms they're still fundamentally autocomplete on steroids
>>729657683Cramming a chatbot into your RPG won't make it anymore immersive, you don't need to have complex conversations with random filler NPCs in town. Also this ignores that you'll never have enough tokens to keep the game world consistent, the NPCs will eventually forget everything and completely break the game's immersion.
SAAR BLADDY FUK U
>>729670938That shit hallucinates constantly because its training data usually follows up x with y even if in a particular context it doesn't make sense at all. there is no actual understanding in the llm, it just knows what the common patterns are in its training data. a fundamentallu different approach is necessary if you want to use it for more than elaborate googe searching and bad erp
>>729660773How about you do that first, and then we pay you afterwards. Like a normal transaction.
>>729664191It's a tool for humans to use. It's not a person you hire. Any tool shortcomings are to be overcome by the human, based on his skill level. And said shortcomings are gradually going away month by month. Remember when it couldn't draw hands?
>>729657683Call of Duty devs already using it to generate paid DLC weapon skins. The grifting has already begun.
>>729657683>keeping consistencyNo, Rajeesh, it won’t. I’ve already tried it for outlining and it can’t get names right, accurately describe locations or even remember my specifications for more than two or three revisions or chapter drafts, and that was just for easy shit like Star Wars fanficition.
>>729671197So just be skeptical of what it tells you? It's no different than if you do a web search and regurgitate the first thing a bunch of clueless redditors said as if it's fact (in fact that's often what it's doing for you). It's your fault for being a gullible lazy fool and just trusting it automatically, especially over things that are not well known
>AI will improve games by addressing problems that only exist due to devs being uncreativeI genuinely can not think of a more retarded statement. AI used this way will just homogenize every single game made in this fashion, and in a hypothetical scenario where you are building an llm to solely run as a database for a fictional scenario it's just going to hallucinate details beyond whatever is in the initial design documentation
>>729671628if im gonna be skeptical of it why not just do my own research? fucking tard
>>729657683AI can only produce slop
>>729671628This, Anon should just pull muh bootstraps and individually stop AIbros from destroying the economy and making everything shit. You subhuman faggot nigger
>>729671707Because it takes 1 second of the AI working instead of 2-3 minutes of you working? Yes we could do all this shit before. The end result is always just about saving time. If you aren't capable of using it to save time while making the same result, it's a skill issue
>>729671559It seems it just gets confused when your conversation is too massive and there are too many tiny little interconnected details to remember. It's just a (current) limitation that you can circumvent by using multiple smaller contexts.
>>729671926>its your fault for not being skeptical of the ouput>it saves magnitudes of timeis it one or the other you mouthbreather?
>>729671417Except it still hasn’t outgrown the obvious shit like using emdash or “not just X; it’s XYZ” statements every third sentence after some four years. Even when you specifically specify what you don’t want, it will acknowledge only to completely ignore what you asked for.>It's a tool for humans to use. It's not a person you hire. Any tool shortcomings are to be overcome by the humanThen what do I even need it for if I have to do most of the work myself?
>>729672026Are you retarded? It takes 2 seconds to think about a response skeptically and double check its sources. It takes several minutes to do all the research yourself (with that same skepticism). Think
>>729671647This, it’s all the same shit people said about Unity and Unreal, only for every store page to be flooded with the lamest, most-poorly designed and optimized pieces of shit imaginable.
>>729672157verifying information is not a 1 second process in your brain you fucking retard. if i want to check if a truth claim is correct i need to find other trusted/verified sources. kill yourself.
>>729672103Why would it outgrow these behaviors? They are random defaults it gravitates towards when the dumbass prompter has no idea how to prompt and never tells it what he wants. You can literally just tell it to not use em dashes. It's that simple. No it doesn't ignore you (but maybe it did in 2021 during the one single time you tried it and formulated your permanent opinion on it).>then why do I need it?Maybe to not fall behind all of your colleagues who will use it to be multiple times more productive as you while making the same output?
>Ai is the future it will save so much timeAi can't even give you the correct answer to a question when that answer is the first Google resultThe ai bubble is already bursting because some of the largest companies have stopped using it because it couldn't even do the simplest tasks (support desk) correctly and caused so much problems that it would've been cheaper to not fire the 4k people and have them keep doing their job instead
>>729672157I’ve used it for essays a bunch, it takes far longer to double check its sources. Either it gives bogus links that lead nowhere or it makes up quotes entirely, even if you give it the pdfs or other documents to read directly. If it’s taking you no time at all to verify its output you’re definitely not checking properly.
>>729672310Yes, we need more studios making their own shit with their own engines that they understand on a fundamental level. Unreal looks all the same, AI looks all the same, it gets boring to look at regardless of how “high fidelity” it looks like.
>>729672396All the LLMs provide link sources now. If you hear the AI say something you're not sure about, you check its link and see it's a 4yo Reddit thread with 5 responses and the best one just being speculation, and immediately doubt its authenticity.This is worth it because the AI is correct far more than it isn't. But that depends on what you're asking it and how well the world at large knows the answer to it. Being efficiently skeptical of it is a skill in itself
>>729672461>No it doesn't ignore you (but maybe it did in 2021 during the one single time you tried it and formulated your permanent opinion on itIt was this month, brownoid.>Maybe to not fall behind all of your colleagues who will use it to be multiple times more productive as you while making the same output?My colleagues aren’t 60IQ pajeets whose idea of productivity is pumping out a thousand emails a minute.
>>729672760An LLM hallucinated this month? Holy shit it's fucking over for AI. Or how bout you just stop being a retard and use it intelligently / effectively I have strong doubts your colleagues aren't all also 60IQ like you. Is your job really just about pumping out fluff emails?
>>729667861gpt is a huge asshole... censored
>>729657683>It will make keeping lore consistencylolai: inconsistency detecteddev: i don't care, i'm doing it this wayai: but won't make se-dev: shut the hell up>and help introduce complex ramifications to the player choices and quest outcomesloldev: okay ai we can't make this too complex. players are retards and only play games once, so all these decisions still have to go the same ending which will just have slightly different flavor text. none of this dialog can be too complex because our last focus group said "blud yapping too much fr i finna cop another game skibidi rizz"
>>729662743Call me when they can pick up a rock without human interference
>>729657683>improving NPC response variety, helping immersion and introducing additional challenge.You should play Where winds meet, they have a fuck ton of ai chatbot npcs you talk with to solve their problems, it's complete aids and gets very boring and tiring having to spend time writing bullshit. It's the opposite of immersion, the variety is obviously awful and there's no challenge.
>>729672969This shit is so shitskin coded you might as well have actually attached a picture of your hand.
I'll make my own games
>>729676614
It won't.
>>729676104>y-you're brownsuch a cheap, shitty deflection that's always wrong (when used against AI using anons). I'm whiter than you.I've literally never seen any actual evidence here that all anons who use AI are brown. It's always, without exception, just schizos making wild unproven accusations.The closest thing to real evidence is a 3 year old infographic that shows jeets blindly trust it more, where like 40% of white people still blindly trust it just as much in the same infographic. Then there's the 500 other infographics that show White and Chinese people dominating the field and using it the most effectively.
>>729657683generative AI is going to be interesting for fully autonomous NPCs, basically virtual robotics, where the AI has full control over a virtual body, but we are not yet there, we are very far actually.for NPC interaction using natural language, it adds no immersion in my opinion, you can talk with the NPC, so what? it can't do anything interesting.
right now I'm watching AI struggle to play a children's creature catching gameI don't have much confidence that AI would be good for keeping anything consistent long term
A few questions for the AIbros ITT.How many NFTs do you own?How much money did you spend on them?How much money are they worth now?
>>729679836it's a tool. Stop treating it like an individual human that you just give tasks to and yell at. The output it generates is dependent on the skill level, creativity and efficiency of the human user. It goes so fast that if it does something wrong you just tell it to do it again and throw out the flawed one, and then it's YOUR fault if the end result sucks because YOU picked a bad looking gen (or refused to acknowledge that all of them look bad).
>>729680580If you had skill, creativity, and efficiency you wouldn't be wasting your time with an AI, Rahul
>>729680682But I always had skill creativity and efficiency, before AI and I still do now. I use it better than you and make a way cooler result than you could with it because I am an artist and you are some retard who literally can't comprehend the AI being an artist's tool (real artist, who could already make art)
>>729680864>I'm totally an artist! I'm way better than you! Look at this generic asian woman I just genned!sure bro
>>729680961thisit's literally impossible for real artists to use AIThey are physically burned by the screen (like vampires by the sun) when they open a Grok tab
AI will be in everything, time to quit my job
Man with no talents: AI is the future
Man who's not burying his head in the sand: AI is the future
>>729681076More like you renounce the title of "Artist" if you use it
>>729681153I'm so talented, I'm a prompt engineer AND an prompt artist. "Asian woman hot big bob" is the pinnacle of my prompt catalog.
LLMs will never be real AI. LLMs are like NFTs.
>>729657683Anon, AI will absolutely be useful in games — but not in the way you think, and not for canon.LLMs don’t have real memory. They only have a rolling context window. Once it fills, old lore literally falls out of existence and the model starts inventing replacement canon that merely sounds plausible. That’s why they hallucinate.You can make NPCs that feel alive moment-to-moment, but you cannot let them be the authoritative source of world history, relationships, or long-term character arcs without heavy external memory systems bolted on.AI isn’t “bad writing” — it’s stateless probabilistic writing. It has no belief persistence, no canon locking, no identity continuity. It doesn’t “remember,” it predicts.The real future use isn’t replacing writers — it’s procedural side content, flavor dialogue, localization, barks, dynamic quest scaffolding, and player-specific reactive chatter — with hard canonical rails enforced by databases.Anyone promising “fully AI-run persistent RPG worlds” is either selling hype or hasn’t actually built one.You’ll get better immersion, but you won’t get an AI Tolkien. Not yet.
If you are anti-AI, you are an enemy of the west.
>>729682138wow, now we can switch from jank human rotoscope to AI generated animation from jank rotoscope data! Thank you tencent!
Uh oh AIjeet meltie
>>729681782I just want a wife, the perfect ai
>>729681704This is just a temporary limitation. 3 years ago context window was tiny compared to what we have now. In 5 years LLMs will store and process contexts large enough to have entire lore books and encyclopedias and every action the player took so far. And that will be enough for accurately simulate belief persistence, canon locking, identity continuity and provide world history, relationships, and long-term character arcs. The thing about LLMs is that this entire technology is based on brute forcing and hyper-scaling, and with enough hardware and processing power we will reach the moment when the scaled capabilities becomes enough for everything you can think of.
>>729682412>we just need quadrillion times the compute power and sextillion times the funding to make the context window larger!the LLM AI industry cannot provide a profit and will crumple at the next economic downturn, just like ML
>>729682412Yeah... remember how we infinitely scaled all the other tech in our lives? Oh wait none of that ever happened.But maybe for the low cost of 10000 dollars a second you can rent a super computer and roleplay a bit.
I for one support AI substituting artists. Real artists want my son under puberty blockers, my wife to do a 9 month abortion (if it is actually mine, if it is a bastard then she should keep it) and my daughter to become a whore. AI doesn't want any of that. AI is as good or bad as the person using it.
>>729682687I mean you sound like a piece of shit I don't know how that bodes for your AI.
>>729682601>picI fucking hate this. I wish they'd bring 2015 phone design back.
>>729682412This was the answer AI gave to OP after i fed him this thread. Since he wants AI to write games for him it seemed to be fitting to ask it's opinion. If AI itself says it's not ready for it yet then it's still a dream.
>>729672103Leave the em-dash alone—I've used it for more than a decade and I'm not a robot.
>>729672103>Even when you specifically specify what you don’t want, it will acknowledge only to completely ignore what you asked for.Great! It's a real human then. Just like how people sperg out about "reddit spacing" and they will surely get ignored everytime.
>>729682212all of those animations are above average
>>729657683Indians shouldn't be allowed to post on 4chan
>here's your AI, brohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3DcFSyx_ok