How does From do it?
>jumps in the air swiping sword up>turns midair to face you>fires magic ice rockets (30)>spins frontflip 100 time making sword a buzzsaw>hits the ground and lands perfectly on two feetNow is your chance>kicks you without facing you as you approach his back
Where does the software come from?
>>729665764Concept artists are literally worth their weight in gold.
>>729666389so you're saying if i make convincing AI forgeries people will pay me a fortune?
>>729665764>steal a norseman and give him a big sword>>729666389>steal a gladiator and give him stupid hornsjaps are hacks
>>729665764They hire SEA monkeys for their concept art
>>729666606What gladiator ever looked like that?
>>729666062>deflect blocks and counterattacks you>anti-airs you and sends you flying if you jump attack at the wrong time>can cross you up and hit from behind with a mounted jump attack>doesnt stagger easily>powers up and has a whole new moveset at low health>patrols a huge area>listens and responds to friendly horn blasts>gets back on his horse>doesn't drop gear when you want him toohe's the greatest early game enemy ever made
>>729666509If you could make forgeries of that quality, you'd make a lot more money otherwise.
>>729666509No, since you have to deliver consistently. You can't do that with AI.
>>729666870all you had to do was look up a popular movie literally called "Gladiator"
>>729667035I can't tell if you're joking.
>>729667078?
>>729667035Bait
>>729667035Doesn't look anything like that.
>>729667035Oh yea, it's Soulborning time.
>>729666297It comes from software
>>729666062>aieeeee kaiden mercenaries are too hard nooooo they need to stand still for 2 hoursI'm starting to understand why 90% of my teammates in Nightreign are dogshit
>>729666870I fucking hate Metyr. She's a spanner in the works that will never be solved. Is she responsible for the Crucible, or was she influenced by it? Is the microcosm a portal showing a dead star, or is it literally a dead star? Did it used to be white / yellow like the sun? The only thing that's certain is that at some point the Elden Beast came down and she had to "kowtow" to it.
>>729667312>every fantasy starts to look like world of warcraft>fromsoft goes back in time and rips off real life european aesthetics>normies act like fromsoft invented them now
>>729667484I like SotE but it's story is such a fucking shame. Rather than put a nice little bow on everything it just opens yet more questions while answering questions nobody fucking asked. We get Marika's fucking backstory followed by Miquella being the biggest retard in earth and doing Haligtree 2 now with golden god Radahn. I'd have taken Mohg 3 over Radahn 2
>Concept artists are literally worth their weight in gold.
>>729667484I think she and the Fingers are there to subdue the Crucible. Or at least that is one thing they do in addition to everything else. The Fingers seem to support anything Marika does that crushes the Crucible, like genociding the Hornsent, killing Omen, enslaving the misbegotten. They gave her the A-OK for that. The Greater Will lives in the void between stars and the like. So the Microcosm and her later Black Hole are like miniforms of that. Micro representations of the emptiness that the Greater Will inhabits.
>>729667489>image of plate armor>comments are filled with fromshitswines>image of big cathedral>comments are filled with fromshitswinesfucking subhumans, the lot of them
>>729667628
>>729667616Fagdahn was pretty stupid but I didn't mind the rest of the DLCThough I wish we had gotten something related to Godwyn besides the Death Knights (which were pretty cool, admittedly)
>>729667489How does it feel to know that normalfags will ruin everything and think you're the retard for pointing it out?
brainless fromhogtardniggers should have their faces mauled beyond recognition
>>729667952Keep crying those delicious tears you ninja gaiden gamerdad fag
>>729667952Hogtard is a big stretch that makes you sound like a stupid ESL. Slopware rolls off the tongue and is a much easier connection to make
Hope China absorbs all of Japan, i'd rather deal with the chinks than these aesthetic thieving nips
>>729668079low iq untermensch>>729668101I'll give your loose anus a big stretch, turd tickling faggot
I'm waiting for the Tarnished edition to start a new playthrough.
>>729666389 I love collecting videogame art books. It would be a sham if AI killed those.
>>729668207I heard performance was really bad(very funny for "Tarnished Edition"), any word of improvement?
>>729668207There isn't anything special to the TE. Just start now and cheat yourself a Milady or Omen Cleaver at the start to replicate the effect.
>>729667489that's the fans' fault, at least FS has good taste
>>729666389it's really fucking cool how close the 3d models in fromsoftware games are to the concept art. pretty rare to see in vidya
>>729667489>nooo i'm going to complain about good concepts returningSissy mentality.
>>729665764>>729666389They just love the aesthetics of their source material of inspiration, most fantasy creators dont.
>>729668314The credit should go to white people, not dirty yellows copying shit
>>729668306I just find it weird that they made it canon that characters wear fake hair hats.Why not just make it toggle able like with the cloaks?
>>729667616>Rather than put a nice little bow on everything itWhy tf would they do that when they certainly plan to make more Elden ring games in the future?
>>729668382SJW tier argument.
>>729667701>>729667616>>729667484The Greater Will is the Big Bang, but also the Monad. There is no "force" that "wills" order, it's just that the universe naturally orders itself into a chain of causality. Elden Ring is a universe where humans, instead of assigning that notion to a capital G God, they assigned that notion to the Big Bang. They're sort of retards in that respect.Metyr and her Finger children are just alien lifeforms that got to Earth / The Lands Between before any other meteor hit (first gleaming star to fall on the Lands Between). The Crucible is the First Flame by another, fleshy name. Spontaneous life that emerged, but chaotic and unformed. Eventually the Monad produces the demiurge, the Elden Beast, because Metyr wasn't doing a good enough job. All things eternally yearn to converge, so the Crucible's influence will never truly disappear. The Frenzied Flame is the Call of the Void, the suicidal / homicidal urge all human beings possess but stamp down. The Fell God I don't know. Formless Mother is some sort of being of vengeance as confirmed by SOTE and Nightreign.
>>729668306This. I hate looking at concept art and seeing a completely different game.The fucking MGS artbooks straight piss me off. I enjoy the games but you can't show me this and say the game matches the style and tone of the art
>>729668346That's because the west is infected with liberals and jews that hate European aesthetics and culture. The fact that we need to import our own culture is a crime.
>>729668382White people haven't made a game like this since tainted grail and tainted grail was an indie game that white people did not overwhelmingly love the concept of.
>>729668565all the soulsborne games are feminist and woke by nature, chud
>>729668489after seeing how japs seethe about well behaved white tourists i have lost all respect for them, i hope the chinese replace them
>>729668265Afaik it's not out yet.
>>729668609Okay but what does that have to do with the classic European Aesthetic in clothing and armor?
>>729668207I didn't want to wait so I started a new vanilla run and my first Convergence run.
>>729668686classic European Aesthetic in clothing and armor is wlw sapphic-coded as FUCK, chuddy
>>729668618>Changing the subject
>>729668609>put a woman in charge>immediately shit falls apartI'm not so sure about that
>>729668795Fuck the japs
>>729668753Gentlemen this Anon is clearly unhinged and should be sedated immediately.
>>729667484yes you don't have all the details and there are open questions stop crying about it.
>cultural appropriation good when yellow japs can make millions from itWeebs need to be registered as traitors to their nations
>>729668940We need to sissify tranime-watching weebs with HRT and rape their tight asses to teach them a lesson
>Take medieval/renaissance armors, weapons, castles and churches, and alter them slightly if at all>browns and illiterate zoomers who hvae never opened a history book think you are a master of aestheticsSasuga Miazaki-san. I've seen zoomers refer to the armet as the "Dark Souls helmet".
>>729668852sexually?
>>729668515There definitely is platonist stuff in Elden Ring (Gold Mask is basically a Golden Age Greek philosopher bitching that Homer and Hesiod were degenerates).But I don't think that really applies to the Greater Will and the like. The theology references are too scattershot and random. Marika and Radagon are the Rebis, Ranni is almost literally just Hecate, Godfrey is Herakles but lacks divine personage, Morgott is Hephaestus, others are just randomly sourced or influenced. Malenia is called a Valkyrie, but doesn't actually do anything Valkyrie like or mimic a specific one. Miquella fits anime tropes, not mythological ones. Radahn is pretty much just a composite of a bunch of hero tropes. Godrick doesn't seem to have any specific inspiration in particular. There isn't really enough overall coherence to the world for that to work. The Fingers are there because 'hands of fate' and other metaphors are commonly attributed to divine intervention, and they're a literal take on that idea. Outer Gods sometimes represent natural forces, but other times work entirely in their own way. The Rot God actually just creates new entirely biomes with their own unique intelligent ecology rather than reflecting a need for decay and renewal. Etc.
>>729668732>ConvergenceVery fun. Pace yourself and don't try to do everything in one playthrough. Its worth it to focus on just following the path the devs planned out for your class so you have new stuff to come back to when you try a different one later.
>>729669080Europe didn't consent to this being used in Asiatic media, we need to make 1000 more asscreed Shadows to even out the cultural damages
>>729668216It wouldn't make sense to make concept art with AI. It would make the concept of concept meaningless lol
>>729665764I loved this armor set I switched to other stuff just when I needed to
>>729668382desu huwites lost the right to all credit when they started doing wow pixar shit
>>729669335the "rot god" is simply the natural force of abundance and decay at work. it's manifested violently because it's being suppressed by the golden order. new life requires the death and decay of old life. euporia should be considered as foundational to the setting as the laws of regression and causality. this concept is even at the very foundation of the golden order quite literally with the gate of divinity and metaphorically with the defeat of the fell god and the ushering of the age of abundance.
>>729669080>seething retard blames Miazaki instead of the failed school system that didn't teach kids any history
>>729669923Oh trust me, I do blame the Js.
Is Wylder's tribe the same as Kaiden mercenaries? Their armors look pretty similar
>>729665764Why are fromsoft such thieves?
>>729670081no, kaiden sellswords are implied to have been from the mountaintops.the cutting grafting tribe in my eyes are an offshoot of the nox or numen that engineered the containment of the Night.
>>729668592Probably because it's a buggy, unfinished, woke piece of shit.
>>729667484Metyr's ability was communicating with the Greater Will, but lost it for one reason or another. She was injured. She is resentful of someone she has to bow to. Her children for one reason or another seem to instigate constant revolutions against the current order.The Elden Beast is the Greater Will's vassal and is responsible for Order. It either can or cannot communicate with the Greater Will. It's not clear, but it doesn't really have to be. If it had the ability, the narrative makes it seem like it doesn't anymore. It is damaged now, presumably because of the shattering. Order has fallen to pieces.I think everyone should be able to figure the important stuff out from that, unless you are one of the "GW is a soul sucking space parasite" schizos.Souls games are a lot easier to figure out when you view things in term of themes. A big theme of Elden Ring is resentment and its consequences.
>>729667489>>729667785>>729667886Autism
>>729669335Not for nothing anon but I think you should reexamine some things here. Ranni isn't almost literally Hecate. Ranni is a selfish (not for nothing) person who did everything she did to get out from under the influence of the Two Fingers. Hecate was a sefless guardian goddess. Also is there really no archetype Miquella falls under? That's really cool if so. Outer Gods are forces not included under the Golden Order. Hence >>729669850
>>729669412>Its worth it to focus on just following the path the devs planned out for your class so you have new stuff to come back to when you try a different one later.That's a little weird innit.
DUDE IS THAT A FROMSOFT REFERENCE
>>729670762Nah, it's pic rel. Or a chink. Both of them are buthurt about japs.
>>729666606>Westoid copeYou have literally nothing
>>729671284>koreaArr rook same though?
>>729671054Honestly it only applies for certain classes over others. Like the Rot class plays substantially differently from the Dragon class which plays differently from the Necromancer class and you'd be at a loss to do all the content specifically planned out for one when you aren't able to make use of the cool gear and spells curated for it.
>>729670060But that's all you can do. Seethe till your own extinction
>>729671423>>729671521You're almost certainly a dalit, but in the off chance that you are infact a kike, know that you will go extinct before your White massas :)
>>729668732This looks "too much". . Like expedition 33. Not subtle enough like From's work.
>>729671115>gustaveE33?
>>729672054I've never played E33 and have no intentions to so I couldn't say.>>729671498What's weird I meant is that the pamphlet the modders give you just says >Go here for gearThere's no story reason for my character to visit Fort Haight. It's a little too "to-do." I'm mostly in this for the new content, not for this strange progression of a non-existent questline for the character.
>>729668732how do you play this.
>>729673579https://www.nexusmods.com/eldenring/mods/3419There are some substantial differences I've seen before, like Castle Morne. I was sold and so I wanted to see the rest.
>>729670617>tainted grail>wokeqrd?
>>729666389>>729666389>tfw constantly see some great concept art from shit games that absolutely used none of it>From basically copy paste their concept art into game form and it's great>SE basically transplanted the original Amano drawn WoL into XIV and it ended up becoming the Kinobringers memeRemember the Horizon Zero Fun concept art? They had multiple ideal versions of Ideal from youth to adult and used none of them, now she's compared to that fat guy who eats food for youtube.The new Crash game had this in it's concept art alongside some other good ones for remade Tawna, they ended up using none of the good ones and went straight for the tumblr one.Fuck, I bet Assassin's Creed has this same problem, the new Dragon Age, hell maybe even Concord if we ever saw the concept art.I don't know which jewish adjacent middle managers / team "leads" are tossing aside the concept art or using the shit ones but it's absolutely fucking their games to death.
>>729673978Girlbosses, lesbians, fags, reddit dialogue etc.
>>729674025Usually its a product of a lack of planning in development.
>>729666878>beginning enemy that is immensely overtuned, has an answer to nearly everything you do, and is harder to deal with than 90% of everything after him>biggest weakness is just mashing with the right weapon>shows up again but in a more appropriate end-game area laterlothric knight 2
>>729674312Banished Knights
>>729674291Or executives meddling in development
>>729674312Lothric knights were ez though, only the spear nigger in the small guard room with the balcony is difficult and it's mostly because of where you fight him.Really cool enemies though, coolest looking kniggers in any From game, maybe tied with Drakeblood knights.
For me, it's concept art Lords of the Fallen 2023
>>729665764Miyazaki's concept artists are basically the only people with any talent still working on Soulslop.
>>729669080>master of aestheticsthe Souls "Aesthetic" was invented by from which is not equivalent to 'where did FROM pilfer/take the designs from"
>>729675365Bro the only Fromsoft game with an original aesthetic is DS1, namely the more "alien" parts of it like the Ash Lake or the lower Izalith enemies, and even then it's still mostly plagiarized from other works like Nasuicaa.And no BB dosen't count, it's the most solid and coherent setting they've made but it's literally just Van Helsing/Brotherhood of the Wolf mixed with Lovecraft, and Yahrnam is just Prague or Edinburgh.
>>729669080Yeah they are a master of aesthetics idgi. You think it's easy to get the lighting and texture work right? If it was, more people would be doing it. Don't be dumb.
>>729675903I wonder if it's possible to make a game like DS3 (maybe smaller) as an indie dev. Seems like getting just the animations right would require an actual irl team of talented people.
>>729675806Everything takes inspirations from something - FROMstuff is just Berserk but Berserk is just Catholics + Ash and the Evil DeadHowever, in the common gestalt FROM aesthetic/vibes are immediately recognizable even in things that dont pull from the same inspiration for a lot of reasons.
>>729674792>only the spear nigger in the small guard room with the balcony is difficultFor me, it was the Greatsword ones, for some reason. Which makes no sense when I think on it, since that was my favorite weapon in the entire game and I would often do Dancer ASAP just so I could go farm them for the drop on subsequent playthroughs and somehow never managed to learn how to handle them like 99% of the rest of the game. Probably greed getting the better of me, honestly.
>>729668530If any studio at least does concept art close to the actual product, I'd say from gets close. MGS is a completely different art style though because they got a semi-famous artist for it. The game tries to capture it with the angles and the character design but it made a lot more sense back during the older games pre-photo realism.
bro really thinks he gonna get paid 6 figures for generating stolen work
>>729676221These cunts were the real kniggers for me, I forgot if it was the tracking or the insane range they had, but they were pure rape.
>>729673843>>729668732I always get the urge to try to play these overhaul mods but the physical reality of playing them is that you're engaged the first few hours but the overhaul is ultimately subpar compared to From's map design and even further whatever autist the mod team has doing the balancing is so pedantic that you either cheese the game or you have a paper build that does no damage.
>>729667347Such a stupid company name, probably the dumbest one ever made.
>>729676645I couldn't say. I'm not far enough in yet.
>>729668216It'll be gone within a decade>>729669564Anon...
>>729676645Generally the mod isn't really tip to tail like that, but instead the mod team jumps around a lot. Farum Azula is the only place that I'd say was changed for the worse. It was made far more complex, but the issue is the area's geography and aesthetic isn't conducive to easily parsable level design. In this case the mod made everything more intricate, but you also have basically no idea what direction to head in at any given time because of it.
>>729676993Convergence in DS3 was pretty fun until I'd say maybe upper Lothric where you needed to buff stack and get an actual build going instead of just dipping into whatever you thought was cool with the same conventions as base game. At the very least, the insane leveling curve was annoying. 50-60 still did nothing but then it scaled back up around 60-90. Not a big fan personally. Hope Elden Ring's mods don't do that though.>>729677096You mean AI or concept art?
>>729677394I suppose that's cool and a big benefit in places that clearly didn't get the attention their outer design implied them to have, like Castle Morne or Redmane. Not sure Farum Azula needed anything additional given that at that point you sort of want the game to be over with anyway. Did the DLC areas get an overhaul too? I imagine making the Shadow Keep more complex would make people kvetch to death.
>>729677503I remember shitting on ds3 convergence with blood rain then pyromancies after that got nerfed.
>>729667616>Rather than put a nice little bow on everything it just opens yet more questions while answering questions nobody fucking askedWelcome to literally every FROM DLC ever made.
>>729677814Yeah some spells were crazy, but if you were doing sorcery like a retard (me) you'd get pretty fucked sometimes since nothing did damage.
>still no mod that lets you marry Miquella
If From are just copying aesthetics from european history why isn't there a single other dev able to do the same thing?
>>729678014blood rain was the most absurd spell I've ever used>quick cast time>low fp cost>gigantic multiple room clearing AoE>every projectile staggers and builds bleed>tons of damageit was like bizarro rain of fire.
>>729678248doesn't get more historically european than kingdom come deliverance
>>729678338but it doesn't look anything like fromsoft games
>>729677671To my knowledge the DLC was mostly rebalanced so its a bit below Haligtree scaling, and where you'd get Skibbidis in the base game instead get shadow smithing stones to upgrade your weapon more above +10. Otherwise level designs haven't been changed (yet).
>>729678338KCD just doesn't look that appealing. I dunno if its the shading, grey-fog, lack of color or what but DS3 mogs it in the art department.
>>729678512>lack of colorwhat?
>>729678338I don't think the black dude running around on hos own calling European knights "backward savages" to their face and not imediately getting eviscerated was very realistic.Nor was the badass single mom assasin taking out armored guards with a kitchen knife.
>>729678676It looks colorless/grey. No defined, strong shading either, the textures look blurry and lifeless. Compare that to DS3 where everything stands out like crazy.
I love FromSoft's art direction and concept artThat is all
>>729679484I think their oversized enemy designs are all dogshit, otherwise it's good
>>729678338>>729678408Missing those fantasy elements along with the anachronism fromsoft uses to flesh out the art design. You can't pinpoint exactly when any of the Souls games take place in relative to Europe's history. Pretty great, since they get to ape whatever cool design they ever see like Winged Hussars for the fat dudes in 3 for example.>>729678421This is a good thing, and I hope it stays that way. Other than the madness swamp and the dragon mountain the levels are already involved enough.
Still the coolest looking level in any From game, and one of the best in terms of level design.
>>729665764
>>729678338das rite cracka
>>729680815>Best level in the game is sandwiched between the poison swamp, the shitty skeleton catacombs, and the dogshit gimmick prison.
>>729679710>>729679484Not a big fan of every protag being a 5'7" twink personally.
>>729666509Not anymore since companies now require you to demonstrate your skills with pen and paper during the job interview.
>>729667785>fromshitswinesESL """""humor"""""and he talks about sub-humans as if he isn't the most sub-sub-human ITT AHAHAHA
>>729680815>and it's basically an almost linear pathwayTruly it is painful, this place deserved better though DS3 in general deserved better.
>>729679484me too and I also like how mad they make /v/
>>729680882I still can't believe some "based anti-woke warriors" like Arch shilled this jewish shit.Only the futa enjoyer called it out for what it is.
>>729681368t. fromshitswine
>>729681532>ESL forgot his meme arrow toothat means you signed thatretardLOL
>>729681304wat? they're decently muscular and there's body customization
>>729681580>OINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKOINKThis is all I hear from you, disgusting hog
>>729676645Not with Convergence, that mod literally makes it a better game 100%. I would never go back to vanilla. To each their own but they won me over with perfecting what they did with DS3.
>ESL got so BTFO he took nearly 10 minutes to wrack his sub-human brown brain for a response>the best he could come up with is slamming his keyboard with his webbed fingers and a wojakHAHA
>>729665764Painstaking care to what people on internet forums say. Gotta hand it to them, they killed it.
>>729666606t. seething westoid UX devj
>>729668940Mad af lmao>>729669505yall being the whiniest little bitches
>>729682049>t. huge faglordBro you got absolutely pwnedLrn2meme
>>729682754>>729682836>If I post 'yall', maybe they won't realize I'm an inbred dalit
>>729683828bitch batsard fromsloper go slurp miahacky sht cum while i paly good games like Dragons Dogma 2 and Ninha Gaiden 2 kill.yourself
>>729667484Metyr's story isn't complicated. Metyr was sent to the planet to seemingly assess whether it'd be good for developing life on, then sent a confirmation for the Elden Ring and the Elden Beast to be sent down. Metyr would communicate with the Greater Will, but seemingly was injured at one point, then the Greater Will abandoned her. The Fingerslayer Blade seems to slot the best into this, with the weapon either being used on Metyr or created in the aftermath of a failed attempt to kill her. The microcosm was the medium for communication with the Greater Will, and it probably just always looked bright like when Metyr does the flying spin attack or summons fleeting microcosms. Metyr's resentment likely began after she was abandoned.The Crucible is its own thing, apparently created by the Elden Ring when making life on the planet. It's akin to a sheer universal life force, a sort of ether used to help develop the planet, that eventually concentrated and manifested as the Erdtree.
>>729669850The Scarlet Rot outer god isn't concerned with abundance and decay, it wants to create its own alien ecosystem on the planet and even terraform it to achieve that effect. It has even invented its own followers, the Kindred of Rot, to carry out its will. Euporia is something else entirely and is indicative of the hornsent basically murdering people and stealing souls for power, thematic abominable crimes in From Software's works, not part of any nature.
