You think Jon Blow will be able to go 3 for 3 with his games?
If you mean landing a third game where his awkward bald headed interviews are more entertaining and memorable than the game itself, absolutely.
>Adventures of Lolo in 2026woah
what about this required a whole new programming language
I uninstalled braid after 10 minutes
Blow has always lived a life that is too comfortable, the kind of comfortable where you bitch about every single thing because nothing is perfect. So Blow sets out to make JAI which will solve all of his C and C++ issues, completely blind to the reality that JAI is going to give him a new and unique set of things to bitch about because he doesn't have anything real to bitch about. Order of the Sinking Star will finally put him underwater and for the first time ever he will have something real to complain about
>>729669494Nothing, he began making the language before he got the idea for Order of the Sinking Star. This game is just an elaborate proof that he made a usable language.>>729669742>Order of the Sinking Star will finally put him underwaterWhy?
>>729669983Because hes dropped millions on this and a large sum of money on a thousand different localizations of his Braid commentary
>>729670082You think this game will be unsuccessful? Other games like Baba is You, Void Stranger, and Patrick's Parabox clearly show that there is a market for box pushing games.
>>729670193Those other games have a hook/gimmick. Order of the Sinking Stars claim to fame is that it's "Like those other good sokoban games and I made it"
>>729670292That just means that OotSS has 4 gimmicks, plus a virtual gimmick of their interplay.
>>729670367Gimmicks that other games already had, and there isn't a sizeable audience of people chomping at the bit for their "interplay".Hang it up, Jon, I'll buy it on sale for 4.99 in a few years
>>729670496>Gimmicks that other games already hadThis doesn't matter when those games run in a browser and last at best an hour.
Do you think Jonathan Blow could revolutionize Bomberman-type games? They've been stale for 30+ years
>>729668168I think he will go 3 for 3
Apparently, the music and sound design for this game is being done by the same people who did INSIDE, so it sure seems like it.
>>729672901Is Inside really that good? Never played it or Limbo but Kojimbo shouted it out so I was interested.
>>729671825He'll go on a tirade about how bomberman is bad game design then lock himself in the closet and cry for several hours
sokoban is the absolute worst puzzle mechanic used in gaming, even worse than reflecting beams of light. there will never be a good sokoban game besides baba is you, and that one only barely passes
>>729675058>even worse than reflecting beams of lightThat's like a quarter of this game.
Nice game you got there Blow, would be a shame if a certain individual made a video about ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSXofLK5hFQ
>>729675274He didn't make a video on The Witness, so why would he make a video on Order of the Sinking Star?
>>729674898It's acclaimed, but also haven't played it, and it's been so long since I've seen it played. But I do remember that I didn't like the ending.
>>729674898It's a sidescrolling walking sim that lasts two hours. You play it for the atmosphere, that's it.
>>729676003Is it worth a toonie?
>>729674898I don't get how normies like either of those two games as they're so annoyingly trial and error. You'll just get ganked by an unseen enemy and have to remember to not do what you just did.Sure, some art fag will say "THATS THE POINT MYAAAN, ITS A CRITIQUE OF CONFORMITY AND SOCIETAL EXPECTATIONS" but I like to think I'm alright at vidya and getting got by a random dog in the background is antifun
>>729675274Soulja Boy didn't even dislike Braid. He claims it's rad and clearly enjoyed it. Just not for the reasons Blow wanted. Kind of the most hilarious thing about it.
This doesn't even have a release date yet. Why bother caring at all, at this point?
genuinely crazy how excited for this i amvoid stranger made me think sokobans were shit, and then isle of sea and sky saved and me and showed me that no, sokobans dont infact have to be simple variations of the same exact simplistically interactive actions. And that there can be actually more cool effects to consider and play around, that isnt just gay meta cheating that has nothing to do with the actual gameplay itself, but instead how its structured.
Braid was never good. It was just released right during indie-craze.
>>729676860>isle of sea and skyIs it that good? I don't like the art style.
>>729671825he is not going to improve on msgk
>>729668168he's releasing three more games?
Is this loss?
>>729677074mechanics that always change or recontexualize how you interact with the world despite the inherent simplicity of sokobans? yes, its heads and shoulders above void strangers 100 shitty puzzles of which 90% are the exact same, save for the one time it adds ice...wow...how riveting, im still pressing forward, but now i move more spaces than before, and dont affect the enviroment anymore than before.i hate shitty games that get away with not actually being well designed games, but having some stupid shitty gimmick that wows the retards that only play rougelites, but also want to pretend they have the taste for "le sophisticated indie game with da vision".
I wonder if Order of the Sinking Star will become successful. It doesn't look appealing at all in any way. The characters seem to be DEI shit and the story sounds to go into a pseudo intellectual direction. I doubt the gameplay will be as brilliant as the witness. Sokoban is just horse shit.
I think it will blow......THE COMPETITION OUT OF THE WATER!!!
>>729668168I do. I really REALLY liked the Witness. But I think the trailer kinda sucked
>>729678327The tranime reaction image was unnecessary.
>>729670193Parabox sold well? I barely ever see anyone talk about it.
>>729669742Blow is 100% right about modern game engines, tech debt and programming incompetence though. He just gets too autistic about it. He would get much further If he compromised just a little bit
>>729678117>It doesn't look appealing at all in any way.Because they failed to make a good trailer. Here is a good puzzle game trailer: https://youtu.be/DyjHyfK-FKo>Montage of gameplay and various mechanics, letting the game speak for itselfHere is a bad puzzle game trailer: https://youtu.be/OIxuGF6CwnU>Vague narration>40% cinematics you won't see in the game>Gameplay barely shown>Main gimmick glimpsed over>Bad voice acting
>>729676953What's bad about it?And by that I mean what's about about the actual game? Not the easily ignored writing or the entirely optional cloud bit.
>>729675274>individualit's called a nigger
>>729678496It seems to have sold decently well.
>>729676317>implying he was talking about soulja boys reaction
>>729678578Totally, he is right, but also, he makes video games and most of the bullshit he's crying about doesn't apply to 99% of any of the shit he's doing, he's just reading hackernews and stackoverflow and getting mad about it
>>729678587That games looks to be heavily inspired from Ocarina of Time forest temple.
>>729668168Looks boring as fuck, and he's been working on this for 10 years? What a joke.
>>729678587This trailer needs A. Fewer cuts to show the audience what the fuck is actually even happeningAnd B. Camera zoomins to show the gimmicks as they happenMy monkey brain just sees dudes running along colored fucking lines and tells me "I've seen this all before"
>>729668168Does the top image look more appealing for anyone else? Bottom looks so busy to me, I don't need this for a puzzle game.
>>729675274/v/ constantly talk about how stupid niggers are only to parade the words of the dumbest nigger of them all
>>729668168I hope soI have a soft spot for extremely autistic outspoken people
I honestly doubt it will be better than void stranger in any way.
>>729669494If you're making a language (and associated tools) it makes sense to tie it to an actual real projectThis exposes flaws and lacking features much better than if you just design a new language from scratch on paper and don't get to find out how it really works on a real projecte.g. the creator of odinlang also works full-time at a company that actively uses it to create commercial products
>>729679257It won't have lesbians and it will have an undo feature, so it will be better by default.
>>729674898KekYes Kojimbo, the dude who markets himself by tagging every piece of media ever released with his name, is a reliable source of recommendations. Limbo, Inside, and Cocoon are all scam games. They are dick deep in the journo cabal. Extremely mid games with artificial prestige from industry connections. Absolutely disgusting and disgraceful games propped up by the exact retards like you who know nothing and buy things based on prestige recs like fucking Kojimbo.
>>729679530Cocoon was pretty good, what do you mean?
>>729679338The entire cast is brown people, Rashid. It's 1000 times worse than attractive white lesbians by default.
>>729679573Why would you out yourself like this?
>>729679808I don't give a shit. I liked it. The cyan swamp world was my favorite.
>>729679705>The entire cast is brown peopleWrong.
>>729680039>he felt confident about shitting on void stranger that has big snake girl tits with jiggle mechanics and exclusively attractive characters with this kind of cast
>>729680257>big snake girl tits with jiggle mechanicsThat was neat, but how about them game mechanics?>No undoThat's rough.
>>729680389>no undoDid you even play the game? That was the entire point.
>>729680470I did play the game. I didn't finish it because not having undo in a box pushing game is fucking tedious. No, I don't care about the story reasons for it.
>>729679530Limbo was alright, Kojima has never made a good game in his life and you sound like an insufferable moron. I'd slap your mouth like the retarded child you are if you ever spoke to me in public.
>>729680571>story reasonsIt's used for some amazing gameplay twists. If you have not even seen the second playable character you don't know shit about the game.
>>729680657I know enough to not want to play it again. Also, the story really put me off. Sure, maybe it's a "it gets better 10 hours in", but I don't want to go through all of that again just to get more box pushing puzzles without undo.
>>729680870>I know enough to not want to play it againNo you really don't but it's ok. It was the choice of the developers to hide 95% of the game and they have to live with that decision. The game is impossible to market.
>>729680998Just tell me this: do you get undo later, or do you always have to reset the level if you fuck up?
>>729681070You don't get undo, but you receive entirely new mechanics that completely break the game to the point the game can hardly be called sokoban. I don't even know why you need undo in this game since each level is super short.
>>729681408Thank you, that's all I needed to hear. Good for you if you like it, but I'm not interested.
>>729681496That's fine. Like I said, it was the developers choice to hide the entire nature of the game and they have to live with that decision and how it, rightfully, turns people completely off the game.
>>729681676Would you care to spoil me on the nature of the game? I won't be playing it, but you did make me curious.
>>729681912Well at its core it's not really a sokoban game at all, it's closer to the witness. The game is not at all about getting to the goal in the shortest steps or garbage like that, each level is about showing you a rule about the game. And you think you understand the rule but then later it turns out you didn't understand it at all and you have to break your assumptions about the rule continuously till you understand the real rule and the real nature of the game.And the game does this over and over, it breaks your assumptions over and over. And then it completely breaks its own rules and then you get mechanics that completely break the entire rules again. And then the entire story switches to other characters and the rules are completely different again. And again and again. And at the end the game breaks literally its entire nature of being a turn based game and then it breaks its genre.
>>729669494other way around, he's making the game because the programming language required a large project to create test cases
>>729669610you are black
>>729682650If that was true then he would have the time of his life with Braid.
>>729682513>and then it breaks its genreI did hear that it becomes shump in the end or something like that. All of that does sound neat as a concept, and reminds me a bit of Inscryption and Pony Island (although I assume that those games do this on a much smaller scale). Hopefully another developer does this better someday, without opening with tedious gameplay and hateable characters.
>>729677431>100 shitty puzzleskekremoved isles off my wishlist
>>729682930good for you retard, the fuck? dont @ me with your display of mental illness kys nigga
>>729683049keep being filtered for all eternity you mongoloid nigger
I don't enjoy most puzzle games because they all just feel like unproductive programming. When you are programming you have endless puzzles to solve but at the end of the day you also have created something. With puzzle games you are mostly just a cuck solving premade puzzles.
>>729683310I can see where you are coming from, but puzzles are more fun in a sense that you are working on constraints on a tiny goal. I've had fun programming a few times in my life, but most of the times, I'm either making something I don't care about, or don't have any grounded ideas to realize.
>>729679705To be fair, if you had played the Heroes of Sokoban series, you would know that the wizard is a fucking nigger.
>>729683453Programming is also about constraints and tiny goals but it also has the aspect of the overarching design architecture. I guess it's similar to drawing. You theoretically could draw anything but that feeling is surprisingly overwhelming and not liberating in the moment where you are starting to draw. Only when you decide on constraints it starts becoming fun and the more the drawing progresses the less liberties you technically have but the more fun it becomes.
>>729669494Boy I can't wait to learn another language that's 95% the same as either java or python except you have to write wirmply instead of scrimblo obtain the same result
>>729677431>100 puzzlesJesus Christ, you didn't even play 5% of the game.
>>729684039It's closer to C/C++. In fact, it's meant to be used for game dev instead of C++.
>>729669742his company doesn't run on loans. yes, it likely will flop and not make back the budget. but he can just close the gates and make solo games then or something.
>>729676493It has a release year, which is next year. That's pretty exciting.
>>729677431shit bro why would you admit this?
ever since playing void stranger, nothing has been able to scratch the same itch but 2026 seems to be lookin good with OotSS and thishttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3203340/Nonolith/
>>729687129admit what?
>>729668168He'd have to start with going 1 for 3 before that.
>>729687838that you know very little about puzzle design
>>729679705don't even pretend you're any better yourself yuricuck
>>729689348Fuck off Jonathan Blow, you indian loving piece of shit.
>>729668168Odor of the Stinking Fart
>>729690575LOL
>>729690575Holy fuck it's soldaboy all over again
>>729668168>You think Jon Blow will be able to go 3 for 3 with his games?>hishe literally took a bunch of people's puzzles and pierced them together into a single universeblow barely developed any of the actual game content
>>729669482I loved adventures of lolo when I was 8 years old.
>>729687661wishlisted. I think mechanics alone aren't enough and these type of games just work better with that certain mysterious vibe to them
jblow has demonstrated time and time again that he is an honorary japanese when it comes to multiplicative game systems
>>729690575>Odor of the Stinking Fart>Odor of the Stinking Shart>Odor of the Stinking Saar>Odor of the Shitting Saar>Order of the Shilling Saar
>>729691865yeah I think nonolith captures the same mysterious dark aesthetic of void stranger, hopefully the puzzles and music match that level too
>>729692281>Odor of the Stinking Saarthis one is the best but the shart/fart ones are good for non-4chan contexts
>>729690575lost
>>729668168shan't be buying
