>character you get from the very beginning guaranteed>solos the whole game from start to finish no effort required Why does /v/ pretend to like these unc games again?
>>729685063Imagine being the enemy army. You're a level 5 shitter and you're told you'll be fighting the enemy armies strongest general.
>>729685063>steals exp from recruitsIt's a metaphor for overbearing parents
>>729685916Infinite exp exists in the tower, he can't steal it because it's effectively free
>>729685063I used him through the entire game, but he couldn't even deal any damage to the final boss for some reason. Probably shit RNG when leveling up.
>>729685063I never used this guy beyond the first couple levels because I assumed it was a trap and he'd end up terribly underpowered compared to other units
>>729685063>no effort requiredIf you've actually done a full solo you'd know that the gorgon chapter will absolutely fuck your shit up.
>>729685063Sacred Stones is baby-tier difficulty. Just get with the times and play some Fire Emblem Engage on Maddening, zoomami.
>>729686773While that usually is true for early pre-promotes, Seth is an outlier in that his growths are pretty decent and his bases are around the same as a legitimately levelled cavalier.
>>729685063>uncKill yourself.
>>729686038If I have to grind the tower then he's stealing my time as well as EXP!
>>729687018You don't need stats to kill gorgon eggs. You aren't punished for not training other units.
>>729687038>Implying zoomers would play SS
>>729687464Yeah the eggs aren't the problem. It's getting petrified. I knew in advance that it's smarter to get S swords for Audhulma and stacked pure water on top of it, but there's several pulls where you HAVE to eat a Stone and if you don't dodge it the map ends. You also won't be able to kill all the eggs on time solo so you'll be fighting more gorgons than usual.
>>729685063>they made him complete garbage in the Japanese versionThat legit took me by surprise when anons pointed it out.
>>729688458What? The only difference is he has a 5% lower HP growth in the JP version.
>>729686773Seth's combined growth rates are only inferior to:Lyon, a secret characterMyrrh, has inflated growths because she only has 20 levels to grow and is the token manaketeTethys, the dancer, so who caresEphraim and Eirika, the lords of the game.Granted, Seth is only so uniquely overpowering in his own game because enemies just flat out suck in SS, but the fact that your Jeigan is even in the conversation for best growths in the game is fucking abysmal design.If you remove the 5% buff to HP he got in the western release, he ties with Tana, Syrene (shockingly), Orson (secret character) and Glen (secret character)I still like FE8 though.
>>729685063He looks like he fucks princesses.
>>729685063This guy is so strong you have to not use him to make the game fun.
>>729685063>/v/ncs' favorites games are the easiest ones in the entire seriesmany such cases
FUCK YOU KAGA
>>729690616You don't want poison weapons anyways
>>729685063God-emperor Seth will claim his divine right to princess pussy, even when his human vessel is weakened.
I like Joshua because I think killing edges are cool.
>>729694337Just give Seth the killing edge
>>729694805But myrmidons are cool
>>729690616>NOOOO I GET THE BETTER WEAPON INSTEAD OF THE SHITTY WEAK ONE I HATE KAGA
I deserve to feel the full wrath of god as I corrupt my brain with FE porn
>>729695496The "shitty weapon" has a cool name and a cool effect, I don't care about stats
>>729695936What does God think about me genning 300 pictures of Lyn's butthole?
>>729696172"Damn dude kinda based but also gold touch lol"
>>729685063Who the fuck uses the promoted unitsIts better to see your units grow
>>729696172Is it hairy?
Marriage with Marianne!
>>729696798No. I only allow minor pubes, so that the hair does not obscure the aesthetic of the vulva or anus.
>>729685063Unc means uncle. Africans and indians call everyone uncle. Just keep that in mind, li'l zoom.
>>729697198That's common in most parts of the non-English speaking world.
>>729689506>he ties with Tanabest girlbest waifu
>>729694805No. I like swordmasters.
>>729698235Innes bros...
>>729687051>While that usually is true for early pre-promotesGod I wish this meme would fucking die already.
>>729698849that jealous cunt should be happy for his sister
>>729699148People underestimating a unit that is viable as a primary combat character till at least around halfway through the game and still has the mobility to be useful otherwise because it means they can't promote their favorite to 20/20 as quickly is and will continue to be an ongoing problem.
>>729699441Like everyone in the game, he wanted to fuck Eirika but she uses Ephraim as a measuring stick and no one measures up so he's continually butthurt.
>can clear the map>or choose to grind out all the enemiesyou'd choose option A right /v/, there's no point in grinding in these kinda games haha
>>729700494Kill everyone for the EXP
>>729700494Kill >>729700701 for the EXP
I deserve to be the victim of peg girls as they grind lance rank
>>729700864You deserve to be stabbed and bleeding to death
>>729700919That's what I said in the first place
>>729700701>>729700752NO STAT GROWTHS DONT MATTER AIEEEEEEEE
>>729700494I often find myself routing in the early game, but on late game maps I prefer fast clears to end the game sooner.
>>729685063>character is OP>game is too easyPick one.
>>729703510no, I won't
>>729686773That's usually the case with this archetype of characters in Fire Emblem (early game prepromote), but there are a few like Seth who are just powerhouses throughout the entire game (Seth, Titania, to a lesser extent FE7 Marcus, etc).
>>729699148He is right
>>729703869There's only a handful of Jagens who actually really fall off like FE6 Marcus, RD Sothe, Vander. Most are at least usable throughout the entire game, and Sothe doesn't even fall off because of Growths but his bad class/caps.
>>729704591>RD SotheNot really. These are the units I'd consider "true" Jagens. They must join very early and *actually* fall off in viability due to poor growths and/or level gain:>Jagen (FE1, FE11)>Arran (FE3, FE12)>Marcus (FE6)>Vander (FE17)Honorable mention to Gunter in Rev, but he doesn't stay long enough to count. He joins too late in Conquest and is actually a pretty good unit in spite of his stats due to his uniquely high potential in being a pairup partner for Corrin.
>>729705380There's also Fred in Awakening and Felicia/Joker who I consider to be the actual Jeigens of CQ and BR.
>>729705380You're a retard.
ANDARON SAGA!!!!!
>>729705380RD Sothe is pretty bad in the endgame even though he's forced, he's got an incredible Part 1 and a decent Part 3 performance but the low might of Daggers combined with the abysmal Whisper STR cap means he isn't doing much even with the Baselard, Bane is also pretty crappy considering most other mastery skills are going to oneshot enemies. The likes of Jagen and FE3 Arran are honestly more endgame viable due to the mechanics of those games.
>>729705596>There's also Fred in AwakeningHe literally has better growths than your cavs lol>Felicia/Joker who I consider to be the actual Jeigens of CQ and BR.They do not fall off at all and are perfectly viable to the end of the games. Nor are they even high level to begin with - they join with an internal level of 1 and can gain 39 levels like anyone else.
>>729705783He carries the shit brigade for practically the entire game until the tower. A jagen should be gradually outpaced until irrelevance rather than there being some issues with endgame stat cap balancing.
>>729705785>He literally has better growths than your cavsHe has low stats for a promoted unit, has slower exp gains and gets fucked by enemy scaling in the midgame. He very much qualifies.>They do not fall off at all and are perfectly viable to the end of the gamesThey lose to other units in scaling, and their niche becomes less valuable as you get better units. >Nor are they even high level to begin with - they join with an internal level of 1 and can gain 39 levels like anyone elseWhat you're missing is that they miss out on promo gains, so their stats are always below your other units.
>>729706451>He very much qualifies.Awakening is a hard game to discuss this topic with because of second seal shenanigans, but he's pretty clearly superior to the unpromoted cavs for the entire duration of the game which is disqualifying imo. His growths are too good.>They lose to other units in scalingTheir individual growths are barely much lower than the other non-royals and the fact that they're in promoted classes means they benefit from the higher class growths for more of their levels. And they can easily amass damage skills other characters won't have access to until the lategame (or support skills like inspiration).>What you're missing is that they miss out on promo gainsThey don't. Look at Jakob's base stats. They are significantly better than Corrin's at level 1 because he already has those promo gains from the start.
>>729698235When it comes to pegasluts, I'm more of a Shanna guy myself, but Tana is a cute.
>>729685063everyone i know who said they played sacred stones tried to abuse this guy and he fucking died on the first fog map to horse slayer guys.
>>729687018>Only struggles on 1 mapI don't know man, I think is just proving how good he is
>>729685063Actually that's not true for every game Like Conquest or Engage
>>729697198every fucking language calls each other uncle/aunt
>>729709508>what is xander>what is camilla>what is bonded shield
>>729705380rev gunter has perfect avalibility except for the one chapter where he goes mad before you bonk him on the head and he turns good through the power of friendship (god fates writing sucks ass)
>>729690616There's actually a canon explanation for this in the instruction manual for the game. Apparently when your squad takes the weapon, they cleanse the poison off it.
Is this the fabled Nyx playthrough?Can get malig from Odin marriage, although tank 'kete sounds kind of funny...
>>729713982also 7 decides who my corrin (+speed -luck wyvern) marries
>>729714413Gunter if female.Beruka if male.
>>729705380>implying FE7 Marcus doesn't fall offPost your endgame HHM Marcus' stats. Also, Jagen is definitely a true Jagen in FE3 book 1 too, he was literally my first ever death. Titania is also a true Jagen in FE9 Maniac mode.>>729705596Awakening is an odd case because it's nearly impossible to 'fall off' in that game when you can always just be a permanent backpack, like my Freddy ended up in my Lunatic run, but he definitely doesn't keep up with the other juggernauts.
>>729714413>>729714523Female. Sorry, didn't realise she wasn't visible in the image (I've been drinknig)
>>729713982>>729714413Forrest
>>729714413Niles
>>729713982Izana
>>729685063This is how you do spears.Not some bullshit like picrel.
>>729717180The best FE art
>>729717180Me on the left
What gets me about the pre-promoted characters you get in Fire Emblem games is that I always assumed they must be there as a crutch and if you actually fed them all your experience you would be fucked because it would turn out their growth stats were low.But no. In the modern day where you can just look up growth stat tables it turns out that their stat growth is always fine. The only problem with feeding them is spreading yourself too thin. I can't decide if I was lied to or if I was just stupid.
>>729685063>>729685916>>729686773>play 7 >just use marcus >no he's stealing your xp>restart because marcus died and keep him back with the tent every mission>20 years later everyone just says use seth and marcus
>>729717318Prepromotes were meant to be midgame replacements if you got your other units killed and didn't reset as to not brick playthroughs without making leveling your early units useless.
>>729717318It's simple. Base class units:>fast exp gain>promo gains>up to 19 extra levels>(usually) good growthsPrepromotes:>slow exp gain>no promo gains>at most 19 levels>at best 'decent' growths on average
>>729717381Modern FE logic has gone from raw power and potential being king, to consistency as priority since the more knowledge you have about the outcome the better you can plan and optimize.
>>729687051>>729699148>>729699468>>729704257most of the prepromotes in 7 and 8 are good. Seth, Innes, Saleh and Duessel are all great. Gerik, Cormag and Knoll show up with promo items at levels 9 or 10 and are great when you promote them ASAP. Dozla and Syrene are both OK and are better than half the cast. in fe7 marcus great, Isadora is ok, Hawkeye is great, I've never gotten geitz, pent is great, louise is ok, I've never used karel, Harken is great, Jaffar is great, Vaida is good, I never used karla, Renault is ok and athos is great. the only real loser is wallace
Games can be beat 0 growths
>>729717660>insta promote everybody at level 10>Who are the pre promotes better than everyone elseThis has to be bait
>>729717773did you ever play FE8? Gerik and Cormag don't need extra levels. Gerik going to be your second or third best combat unit after seth and saleh or duessel if you promote him the second you get him. there's really no point in holding back and not promoting him asap. Cormag is the best combat flier whenever you promote him and it's not close, he's way better than the other fliers at fighting and Knoll's stats suck no matter what, he's only useful for summoner shenanigans and better stats don't really matter for summoners
>>729717660Very few of those prepromotes will actually outperform a trained base class unit of the same class. Basically only Seth, Pent and Harken in your list are real contenders. Dozla and Syrene being there are fucking laughable. Marcus is only 'good' if you didn't do Lyn mode for one of the Christmas boys, and his absurd RES base. Hawkeye is only better than Dart because he saves the promo item. A trained Nino beats Pent, but she comes late and after him, so it's a weird competition.
I think Eirika is cute and want to put my penis in her.
>>729718665>A trained Nino beats Pentshe shows up with like 3 levels left in the game. Dart also sucks when you get him and is just a filler unit where as hawkeye is always good and syrene is ok for the 2 level's she's in. she can kill eggs and dozla is no worse than the rest of the base unit retard squad.
