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Why did nobody at Squenix say that Vaan was a bad idea?
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>>729688968
It's like a sin bad look like a pirate adventurer type
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>>729688968
No one did.
They did say balthier or basche as a main character was.
Japan hates middle aged men (20+)
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>>729688968
I remember reading something about FF12 being rushed as fuck during development, so maybe something to do with that
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is his game worth playing?
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>>729689098
Did Japan not like Clive? I know that 16 was primarily made for western audiences but there was nothing really offensive about Clive as a character. My only main issue is that he had no real urgency of his own, he just wanted to pick up where Cid left off for no real reason.
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>>729688968
male gyaru...
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>>729689595
it's an interesting jrpg with how the gambit system works but it's not really a final fantasy title. you'll probably enjoy it a lot more if you treat it like an original squenix jrpg.
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>>729688968
I mean, look at him. Would you rather stare at Vaan all day or Basch or Balthier?
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>>729690278
i never had a problem with how Vaan looked but his whiny and childish personality along with having no real importance to the plot made me dislike him. It also doesn't help that the majority of his scenes just has him having emotional outbursts like a child and that's his character. It just feels so odd to thrust such an uninteresting and annoying character as the protagonist.
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>>729688968
It would be less gay if he just went shirtless. Somehow the vest makes it worse.
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>>729688968
Vaan is hardly the worst part about XII. In fact I'd go so far to say that he's the most likeable member of the cast after Balthier
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>>729688968
Because their main focus in Japan, and in Japan a young protagonist is never a bad idea. They hate older main characters. FF16 was an appeal to the West by having an FF with an older character as the lead.
If Basch was the lead, 12 would've done worse in Japan.
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>>729688968
For the longest time I thought his vest thats slides to side was a shop to make him look extra gay. It was wild finding out years later that its actually official art.
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does he only armor his hands and legs? why? does it work with some bizarre combat style of his? Nobody thought about these things, but the design "looked cool" which summarizes the final fantasy design thought process.
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Why did FF change art styles ?
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>>729688968
Why does he look oiled up?
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>>729689595
I like it. But I don't give a shit about the story. I feel really immersed in this game. I feel like I'm there with them. Some places are so beautiful. I fucking love this game
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>>729689595
no it's a big drag if you're really into ff then you will I guess
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>>729689596
Times changed considerably
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>>729689595
Its a super weird game. Kind of a "you either hate it or love it" game. The story is boring as fuck, it has a weird ass battlesystem, story feels like the devs had no idea what the fuck they want it to be, characters are all bland as fuck and overall its a mess. At least the judges had kino designs. And if you like the gameplay you will tolerate the rest. Its unique for sure and endgame content is pretty good.
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>>729693047
Dad? Why did you take me to a gay steel mill?
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This is my current party. Fuck Vaan.
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>>729688968
there's nothing wrong with vaan as an idea. they always could have executed him a million times better
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>>729693684
I don't know
:(
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>>729693573
>it has a weird ass battlesystem
Literally atb.
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XII is a good game but X feels more complete.
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>>729688968
Second most fuckable FF twink after Zidane.
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>japanese RTWP CRPG but without the CRPG
weird game
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>>729690417
Vaan is the third most important character to the story
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>>729688968
They're Japanese. They're forced to be Yes Men to their higher ups.
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Vaan is the heart of the team. Balthier, Ashe and Basche all feel drawn to him.
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>>729688968
It's an ensemble cast and Vaan feels like he has less of a spotlight the longer the game goes on. I never had an issue with him as a character.
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>>729689595
Pretty solid till you get past the weird mask people village. Then it just drags, you get zero spells an abilities of note and just grind certain spots to fill out your boards, then others for xp, it really really is just a mindless grind. Your basic attack is the best thing in the game. For the whole game.
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>>729693965
>no using the leading man
shame on you
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Because he's a Chad and an excellent idea. Viewing the world and the story from the perspective of such a young man allows the player to slowly sink into the setting in a proper non-overwhelming way. The majority of the players in Japan are teenagers, so they needed a protagonist whom they could relate to. Making the MC an older man, like Balthier or Basch woudn't work.
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>>729688968
Vaan was fine for introducing the player to the world, problem is he sorta just tags a long and doesn't feel like the main character but hes one of your strongest fighters and will be one of your more progressed characters so why would you drop him.
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>>729692273

>being attractive and well build young man with a setting appropriate outfit = being gay

are all westcucks this retarded?
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>>729697098
> Chad and an excellent idea
He's an immature child that is controlled by his emotions. He never acts reasonable or mature in any scene and always comes off as an idiot. There's nothing wrong with making a young character the lead but Vaan just has an annoying personality and it seems that not even Japan gives a shit about him. Vaan placed 68th place in this popularity poll from japan in 2020.
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how do you figure out which of these characters is going to be liked during development?
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>>729698474
Clive was raised ro be Joshua's protector since a young age so he was kind of brainwashed to care about him so much. It makes sense why he cares so much for him especially since he thinks he's the reason why he's dead in the first place. Clive had some pretty decent writing but his arc kind of falls apart after Joshua comes back alive without any real high point behind it.
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is PS2 also the best version of FFX-2? I know about the butchered visuals for the X remaster but it's surprisingly hard to find good comparisons for X-2.
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the entire industry in that era was trying to attract females (the other 50% of the population that wasn't playing videogames yet) to play their games.
kind of like how the entire industry was trying to capture china fairly recently.
they saw a big slice of pie that nobody was eating and wanted it at all costs.
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>>729700150
How are there not mods to address the minor issue?



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