I need to talk to someone about how much I hate this game. I feel like I'm going crazy with the entirety of the internet telling me this game is good. I liked the first one but it should have died there. I just can't take it anymore bros. You might not have like E33 and that's ok but shilling for KCD2 is even fucking worse.
>>729693016What don't you like about it? I have plenty of problems with it but I still enjoy it overall, although not as much as the first.
>>729693016/v/ fucking hates this game, so I'm not sure why you typed your post in such a faggy way
>>729693253/v/ was constantly defending it saying how gay sex scene is not woke
>going against the hiveyike
>>729693148Well first I think the story fucking sucks, kcd1 was much better. How many times does Hans get captured and how many times do we rescue him lol? And then, everyone says the combat is better in 2 but I think they fucked it up by dumbing it down. The game doesn't have the charm of kcd1. It's not new. You're not some peasant who has to learn to read, you're already a killing machine. Henry is also kind of retarded now that I think about it. There's no tension at all. The pacing is all over the place. I don't see a reason to spend time in the open world as much as in kcd1. I don't know, something just feels off about this game.
>>729693306Those are trannies trying to gaslight the place.
>>729693016>my title of bailiff>my zoul plate>my st george's sword>my piles of groschenAll of these gone in KCD2, like tears in the rain.
>>729693253/v/ likes it much more than they did kcd1, they hated that game to hell. Maybe I would hate it too if I replayed it, maybe my tastes have changed.
>>729693392The talented devs likely left when Vavra went superkike.
>>729693016I loved it, just wish Musa were not there.
>>729693493the missions fucking suck. rpg of the year? why can't I choose not to fucking defend the jewish quarter. I don't care about /pol/ but the mission is just ass. I'm a waiter for Sigismund and nobody cares? I just stand around and do fetch quests for the nobles, nothing that influences the story, hell I don't get the chance to stick a dagger into someones neck or anything. And then I magically arrive right at the castle where Godwin just persuaded a bunch of nobles to give us their money, only to have half of them murdered the same night, even though Henry magically shows up to save the day. I mean what the fuck
>>729693306>Gay sex in RPG - 2010>Ah, back when games were good>Gay sex in RPG - 2025>Wooooke!!1
>>729693016I don't see a point in playing a game about immersing yourself in medieval Europe when>You get saved by a single mother spy assasin from a dungeon>You get a Marco Pollo Indian super genius that calls Europeans dumb>You get your Christian buddy turned into an underage gay romance option (he's based on a real person in history btw)>You have to defend the Jews and kill antisemitic crazy Europeans in the main plotlineIt's like a redditors version of Mount and Blade. I would rather play a warband mod instead of this. And that's my recommendation, play a game that is not blatantly Jewish.
>>729693392I thought 1 was really clunky compared to 2, and the combat while simpler flows wat better, and the clench mechanic being improved is a personal favorite improvement aswell as the armor looking way nicer, my main issue is the historical inaccuracies like the Jewish quarter existing in kuttenburg. Ironically Musa of Mali bothers me little because blacks were around at the time in period art so a random traveller and litterally only 1 nigger in the whole game is excusable, tho he could've been a bit nicer.
>>729693769I just don't understand why unlike in the first game where I'm learning to fight in an actual castle trained by an actual captain, after barely escaping with my life, in the second game I'm being taught advanced swordfighting technique by a fucking gypsy in a camp in the middle of the woods, all the while doing the stupid as shit quest for the gypsy king for some shit no one cares about.
>>729693392>storyI agree when it comes to Hans. He's devolved as a character since the first game and just ends up being a damsel in distress half the time. But I like some of the other characters and story beats they have, particularly on the first map.>combatAlso agree, it can flow more nicely but it's way too easy now. The devs also obviously favor swords way over any other weapon, everything else got cucked out of having a master strike and only get 3 attack positions and a way shittier selection of weapons.>HenryI don't think he's retarded, but I do wish they didn't make him the protag again because I knew it was gonna be this shit where he regresses to level 1 somehow. Maybe that's why you level at the speed of light.I enjoyed the open world on the first map, it had a distinct landscape and memorable locations, the second map however only has Kuttenberg as a highlight, which while cool can't carry the entire map.>>729693697A lot of the story quests are bad but I like many of the sidequests, which is what you're probably gonna be doing for most of the game anyway.
>>729693769For me the magic nigger was a major disappointment. Niggers were extremely rare in Europe in the early 15th century. Shoehorning one into the game in a prominent role is blatant pandering.
>>729694157>Too easy nowThe combat is significantly easier in the first, you can just use maces and perfect strike spam for benefits of best defense and bonks to the head
>>729693016>I feel like I'm going crazy with the entirety of the internet telling me this game is good.Nah. A good chunk of the fans of the first game didn't like it, both for the story and for the mechanical and design changes. Them getting bought out and Vavra going full kike mode really ruined the game.
>>729693764>You get saved by a single mother spy assasin from a dungeonNothing wrong about a woman acting as a spy, it's not like she fights through a garrison of men to save you she just unlocks the door and helps you navigate the castle, you have to do all the fighting.>You get a Marco Pollo Indian super genius that calls Europeans dumbMy main issue with him is that you can't shittalk back to him. Like a foreigner jerking off his own culture in comparison to yours is fine, but you should be able to defend yourself. Add skill checks for knowledge or whatever to determine if you can form a coherent counter argument or something.>You get your Christian buddy turned into an underage gay romance option (he's based on a real person in history btw)Also hated that, mainly because it fucks with the bromance they established in the first game. Whether Henry is gay is up to the player, but even if you decide not to stuff him full of blacksmith sausage Hans is still bi and into Henry, which is shit. If they wanted a gay romance option they should have introduced a new character for it, like they did for every other fucking romance option.>You have to defend the Jews and kill antisemitic crazy Europeans in the main plotlineThere are story reasons for it but I wish you could be properly antisemitic yeah
>>729694034That's just one guy, once you get into lord seminal good graces you can train with his gaurd master, and once you get into Trosky there's a german swordsman who trains you the best combos.And if you dont like the gypsies just make sure you don't give their leader the Travel Pardon letter he asks for, that way they have to move to a different country withought it.
>>729694514The woman assassinated a guard in front of the door.
>>729693764You dont have to defend the gypsies/jews, you can throw them under the bus and not give them the letter of passage
>>729695035Oh yeah forgot about that. Still not that far fetched imo
>>729693758>Gay sex in RPG - 2010>Ah, back when games were goodNot even that, at the time it was>fuck off conservative fundies, stop trying to censor our games, we stand with Bioware!
>>729693758I've always hated Bioware games.
>>729693016Think for yourself for once you massive faggot. Your initial distaste with this shit game is correct. Pure gay and retarded unkino.
>>729696140Nobody called them woke then. It's not suddenly woke now.
>>729696284>Nobody called them a word no one back then usedVery smart of you to point that out, anon, but I've always called them gay trash.
>>729693016Woketards are inherently retarded and tons normies enjoy eating movie-game shit. Just disregard them.
>>729693016>with the entirety of the internet telling me this game is good.i enjoyed the first map. the second map was good until the last third or so of the main story. i liked most of the side quests. istvan died off way too quickly and you don't even get to fight markvart. erik becoming the final boss was a laugh. what i didn't like was dumbed down combat and turning even things like encounters with dogs and wolves into parry slop. alchemy was hilariously overpowered even moreso than the first game and smithing, while fun, peaks way too early when you can reforge the sword to martin level and your set for the rest of the game.
>>729696721Okay, I guess you weren't here then at the height of Bioware's popularity because we'd have told you to fuck off back to facebook, grampa
>>729696850KCD is many things but I don't know how you can call it a movie game
>>729697012t. disgusting normie
>>729693016>the internet must have the same opinion as me, otherwise I go insaneretard
>>729697092What's a non movie game you like?
>>729697227Super Mario sunshine
>>729697394I don't get how that's not a story game but KCD is
>>729693016i like it. Its fun, btfos anything un unreal engine and as a R O L E P L A Y I N G game, it lends to a lot of fun playstyles. Im playing as a dense as fuck, easily persuaded henry who flips his loyalty/goals on a dime based on what the last person said to him was.
>>729697597Fuck off
>>729697650You play as a faggot that get rape by an ugly girl and you cannot call her out on it. That alone fuck any R O L E P L A Y I N G it has.
>>729697005>I guess you weren't here then at the height of Bioware's popularityI've been here longer than you. Bioware has always been a plague. You're probably not even old enough to have played their Infinity Engine games and are most likely referring to those terrible Xbox RPGs that Xbabies pretended were good.
>>729697012KCD2 is much more "cinematic" than 1 and has long exposition dump interactive cutscenes that don't need to exist.
>>729697778if it werent for (you) crying about it i wouldnt know you can fuck hans because i didnt choose>press here to gay>are you sure>one more time to confirm>ur gay>aaaaaaaaaaaa save me niggerman aaaaaa
>>729697974wait niggerman is in the game?
>>729697974That doens't matter. You're still a faggot. And you're still raped by an ugly girl. And you still work for {{them}} in their underground tunnels and eating shit for one of their quest.
>>729698057Your fault you got raped
>>729697846>I've been here longer than you.Sincerely doubt that>You're probably not even old enough to have played their Infinity Engine gamesWrong>and are most likely referring to those terrible Xbox RPGsYes; past my time, but certainly the height of their popularity on /v/. See, it's not about my opinion, it's about history
>>729698234>Sincerely doubt thatIt's true.>WrongThen you'll know that they ruined RPGs back then by popularizing dating sim shit.>but certainly the height of their popularity on /v/. That was general consolebaby shitposting and their opinions don't matter.
>>729693016>I liked the first one>the first one had a better storythe first game ended on a cliffhanger, so you got blueballed by the first game, so I don't understand how you could have received that positively.
>>729693016finishing up 1 and starting 2 tomorrow wish me luck bros
>>729694267there’s a reason the only black kid in south park’s name is “token”
>>7296937581 Corinthians 6:9Henry is supposed to be Christian. You will ignore this and continue to use this argument, and you will continue to get owned.>>729693758>>729696140>>729696284Bioware faced so much backlash for the 'polymorphic' non-binary alien gay sex in Mass Effect 1, they toned the homo down for 2. Homosexuality was always hated, woke was just not used this way. Did you memory hole that we used to use 'gay' as a cookie-cutter insult outside of 4chan or are you too young to use this site?>inb4 but my ancient, Japanese pederasty without seeing the issue of having to resort to pederasty for an argument, as if child sex is cool
>>729698670Good luck
>>729698812>christians never engage in gay sex>now bend over altar boy
>>729699312Nta but Catholics aren't Christians though, they are a sect made up after the first millennium.
vavra hot the call
>>729698812>Did you memory hole that we used to use 'gay' as a cookie-cutter insult outside of 4chan or are you too young to use this site?Nigger why are you quoting me when I said this?
>>729693769>Ironically Musa of Mali bothers me little because blacks were around at the time in period art so a random traveller and litterally only 1 nigger in the whole game is excusableThere isn't a single occurrence of any Malian traveler ever visiting medieval Europe at any point.Mali was an isolated shithole and the farthest Malian travelers ever went was Mecca, and even this happened only a couple of times.Btw shoehorning black people in settings they don't belong is a key element of woke ideology.
>>729693016kcd2's general QOL, gameplay, and combat are better than kcd1. Story, maps, and atmosphere are way worse.Complaining about atmosphere is subjective, but the writing in kcd2 is genuinely atrocious. Everything with the gypsies, musa, and the jews felt like it was scribbled in the margins by a monkey. It might not seem that way because the cutscenes are so much better done - the cinematics are a huge improvement from the first game - but everyone acts out of character the second minorities are involved. Also they should've created a whole new character instead of shoving Godwin in . He's a completely different character from kcd1, absolutely nothing alike.trotsky region has too many impassable cliffs. Despite being small, you spend so much time travelling because you're forced down the same long hallways. Gypsy camp and apollonia are especially bad for this. The gypsy camp only approachable from the south was so stupid. Meanwhile kuttenberg was the opposite problem. Kuttenberg in the right side of the map meant you galloped down the same section of highway 70 times over the course of the game. In KCD1 it was fun figuring out how to cut through sections of forest and going offtrail to get around faster. That kind of landnav doesn't exist in KCD2. there's so many things with kcd2 which makes me wonder how it was made by the same team. I played kcd1 and kcd2 back to back in hardcore, so it's not just nostalgia. KCD2's dialogue is so bloated, people repeat the same thing 3x in one conversation. KCD1 was written with sincerity, KCD2's sidequests are mostly fetch quests that has you riding back and forth across the map.if you liked KCD1 you should still play KCD2, they're both great games with different strengths. After KCD2's combat system and qol it'll be really hard going back to KCD1. I hope KCD3 doesn't have Henry as the main protag because it would be incredibly stupid to reset henry to 0 again for the second time.
>>729704216Henry in KCD3 will be a boomer to match his actual actor so he'll be reset to 0 save for blacksmithing which will be 100 immediately
>>729704216It's pretty clear there isn't going to be a KCD3, not with Henry at least. Pretty much all of his plot has been resolved.
>>729704216>gameplay, and combatNah. They kept the bad parts of the combat and dumbed it down.
>>729705832>that webmanon.. when the same thing doesn't work 20 times in a row in your webm you'd think you'd try something else lol. you don't want to enter riposte wars because all that happens is you draining each other's stamina with no benefit. If you have levelled stats or potions you can attrition it out and slap him but since you're not, you don't.you want to charge attacks and attack on the opposite side of his weapon. Either it has a better chance of hitting or you destroy his shield over time. Once he's out of stamina you can do the basic bitch right left right combo to kill.kcd1's combat is nothing more than stat check + masterstrikes. In 1v1s you clinch to win. Kcd2 gives you options to approach combat based on guessing their level and your own equipment. You can feint or attack the opposite side for a better chance of hitting.
>>729706258>when the same thing doesn't work 20 times in a row in your webm you'd think you'd try something else lol.Nothing else works because the enemy was strong and could two shot me. Trying something else is how my health went down. If you actually played both games and weren't retarded, you'd easily see the point that was making. lolThe second game got rid of attack directions so you can't do changeups with the mace and catch them off guard. Trading blows and hoping you can do enough damage throw armor is the only way to fight well and not die against stronger enemies.>you want to charge attacks and attack on the opposite side of his weapon.Nope. Because if you don't catch him then he can retaliate and you can't riposte and you die. >kcd1's combat is nothing more than stat check + masterstrikes.Nope again. KCD1 had a problem with masterstrikes (that instead of fixing, 2 just used to force play with swords) but you could reliably face poke and head bonk.>You can feint or attack the opposite side for a better chance of hitting.I can feint high and then swing low with a mace in KCD1. Explain to me why that isn't an option in 2. Real reasons only.
>>729706780I've played kcd1 several times and kcd2 once, all on hardcore and and I can't agree on most of what you're saying.in kcd1 if you didn't train with bernard you had no chance against most enemies. in KCD2 it's not as much of a raw stat check anymore. for example feints are completely useless in 1 but have a decent chance of landing in 2.headcracker was a stupid perk in 1 that i'm thankful they removed in 2. I don't know how you can argue for fishing for a 25% chance with face stabs and hoping you don't get masterstriked by a peasant in ragsi haven't had anywhere the same experience with you in 2. Combos in 1 were asking to get masterstriked for nothing while combos in 2 made fights quick once you landed that initial hit in. Between your webm and what you're saying i'll respond with you should pay more attention to combat options instead of riposte wars, which is probably the worst option you can do in fights.
>>729707526>I've played kcd1 several times and kcd2 once, all on hardcore and and I can't agree on most of what you're saying.I've also played KCD twice (including hardcore) and dropped KCD2 and I don't care. You're just wrong, and you're even wrong about some mechanics specifically which isn't a matter of opinion. >in kcd1 if you didn't train with bernardAbsolutely irrelevant because that was meant to be a tutorial thing.>for example feints are completely useless in 1Stopped reading there and I'm not continuing the argument. Opposite side feints (which you can't do in KCD2 with maces because of removed attack points) are absolutely fantastic and are always useful, especially in the Rattay tourney.
>>729707946if you didn't finish 2 I don't know how you can comment on its mechanics in relation to 1opposite side feints in 1 are irrelevant when feints themselves are more effective in 2. When you get jumped by crappy ass peasants in 1 they can masterstrike the shit out of you when you attack. Especially if they're using blunt, because maces tear through armour like paper.I played through 1 and found myself going back to maces and swords for the most effective weapons and spamming masterstrikes to win. When I did my recent playthrough of 2 I used way more combat options than 1. And that's all I gotta say on that matter.
Nah. KCD1 sucked too. It had a couple immersive moments and everything else was fairly shit.Absolutely awful combat, not one thing about it was funBland storyThe most long winded rambling ass NPCs ever put into a game, talking about their mom's sister's uncle's gooseberry pieUncharismatic charactersand a massive amount of bugs + the save system was a bad combo at launch
>>729693016Am i the only one who actually enjoys NPC ramblings and long rides?I like the setting and both games are better written than most AAA so I don't mind more dialogues and rarely skipped through them.
KCD1 was janky but at least it tried to be something.I don't even know what KCD2 is aiming for.
So, now that you guys are saying the budget was actually 60mil instead of 40, when do you think KCD2 will reach 5mik sales?
>>729693769KCD 1 was littered with historical inaccuracies because both games are historical fiction, not documentaries. As for the Jewish quarters, that was there for narrative purposes because the game doesn't take place all over Bohemia. Real life Sigismond did persecute the Jews and because of that the Jews supported and helped fund Wenceslaus IV (the king Henry supports) for the on going war.
>>729709475More of KCD 1 and finishing henry's story I wished they expanded on survival stuff hopefully their next game is fantasy or set in an entirely different region
>>729693016>I feel like I'm going crazy with the entirety of the internet telling me this game is good.Let me tell you a secret: They don't think it's good. They just love the agenda it pushes and the historical revisionism
>>729709601>So, now that you guys are saying the budget was actually 60mil instead of 40,According to who?
>>729710243I sweat to god you guys are lost I don’t think the 140k Steam users liked the game because of its politics. The same is more or less true for normie YouTubers who liked it.
>>729710286You guys in those threads.
>>729710474huh? source or gtfo
>>729710542Hey, I don't mind it going back to 40! Just thought it was funny in a previous thread one of the shills mentioned 60, the previously mentioned "double the budget of the first game" by Vavra, before the flop happend and he had to say "well actually it's just 1/3 larger"
>>729710705>no source you can keep making up number WH is doing alright
>>729705832>Why can't I beat a guy in plate armor as a dirty peasant with a woodcutting axe?
>>729693016I dunno about any of that but i will say this.Historically accurate medieval settings are fucking stupid and gay.Give me Wizards and Dragons and scantily-clad Amazonians with enormous breasts.
Zisalso third person ffs
>>729693016you play in the heart of the Roman Empire, the strongest, most advanced, most cosmopolitan state in the world.of course people from all over the world are going to be found there. Musa is no less believable than the black guy in Gladiator.
>>729693016>waaaah I need my confirmation biasYou need to be raped on live TV
I liked every single thing about the first game besides the combat and I guess the long load times. This seems better in that way. Is it?Id still feel weird for not even coming close to beating the first game though and getting this one. But if its more fun (easer) them whatever right?
>>729714162I don't wanna see rape on live tv idk how people watch any of that
>>729714221Opening and some main quests are more rail roaded other than there it's pretty good
>>729699312The Catholic Church was founded by Roman pagans so it makes sense that they like anal sex with little boys.
>>729693016Yes, yes, there is a nigger and gay romance option. We know. You make this thread everyday.
>>729698812>Henry is supposed to be Christian.Yeah Christians never sinspecially not henry, he never stole or fucked someone's wife
>>729693016This game is aight.
>>729693016>all the trannies and thirdies STILL pretending to ever touch the 1st gamekekaroooKCD2 is a flawed masterpiece deal with it leftypolnigger, OP is poojet faggot.
>>729693764Katherine is not a single mother you fucking retard, her husband and child were both murdered when her village got attacked. And Zizka goes out of his way to tell you she never showed any interest in any other man since then, until you showed up.
>>729699467>>729714829Henry is catholic. Check mate
>>729704216You do realize the maps are based on real maps right? It's not something they just made up from their asses.
>>729704216>In KCD1 it was fun figuring out how to cut through sections of forest and going offtrail to get around faster.More like you spend more time figuring out how to navigate around the bushes which acted as invisible walls. >KCD1 was written with sincerity, KCD2's sidequests are mostly fetch quests that has you riding back and forth across the map.It's the exact same shit in KCD1 but a lot of the quests in KCD1 was unfinished and had no real outcome. Like the whole quest line with Matthew and Fritz? Where did that go? Nowhere. Then you have the DLCs which is fetch objectives after another. Are you sure nostalgia isn't affecting you heavily?
>>729717105>Like the whole quest line with Matthew and Fritz? Where did that go? Nowhere.Matthew and Fritz did not have gay orgy with Henry at the end? IT"S POINTLESS CLUTTER UNINSTALLING THE GAME
>>729693758Pretty much, it's just nonstop culture war bullshit now. Somehow even the option is enough to trigger these poltards. I got 240 hours in KCD2 and it's a great game. I never saw any gay sex, but i saw some booba.
>>729717227Matthew and Fritz questline was literally unfinished.Their downfall was supposed to be more gradual but instead it just skips a beat and they just go from losing their job to robbing armed couriers. And then they literally stop existing and nobody mentions the quarry pay being missing and there's no repercussion to it (the workers of Talmberg main export not being paid just isn't an issue apparently).
>>729696140Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 1+2 were beloved on /v/. They had tons of threads. Get the fuck off the board.
>>729693016i think this art example between the maps in KCD1 and KCD2 best describes the difference for me, and why I like KCD2. KCD2 simply has more soul and passion.
>>729693016First one was dogshit too
>>729693392KCD1 is one of my favorite games so I maintain some denial but yeah, the sequel has no charm.
