One thing I don't like about the rewrites which was probably caused by Tav and Wyll's rewrites are that they got rid of the reasons why each of the characters were level 1 to start and just said >muh tadpolesbecause it was supposed to be Durge has amnesia from the thingLae'zel's like 17 and it's only like her second or third time leaving the crecheShart is never really shown to be particularly talented at anything during the narrative and is mostly interesting to Shar due to circumstances that have nothing to do with Shart's powersFag Vamp is literally just a guy Faggot wizard has his whole backstory with the orb fucking with his powers and deleveling himKarlach has her engine fucking up in the material plane Wyll in the EA wasn't particularly talented in his own right as a specific character beat and Mizzora's imprisonment weakened himAnd then Tav was an afterthought and they didn't want to mess with people's hecken backstory even though Tav doesn't factor into the narrative
You WILL play a Critical Role episode on DOS2's engine and you WILL like it ;)
>>729715543The thing that bothers me is that they made everyone have some snowflake backstory but then quit before making high level content. Levels in D&D are retarded anyway. Like I have amnsesia and now I cant survive being shot by an arrow? Ok
>>729715752>can't go 5 seconds without talking about his internet friendsIt's time to kill yourself.
>>729715543>And then Tav was an afterthought and they didn't want to mess with people's hecken backstory even though Tav doesn't factor into the narrativeYou have it backwards, Larian are retarded for focusing so much on their OCs bullshit characters and for you to care so much about them. And not to enjoy roleplaying and creating your own characters.
>Still no sales report>Still no counter to picrel >Still no gameplay webms>Still a major flop>Still caused the studio to be sold off to china>Still desperately shilled >Still not a single woke success story
>>729715970I really hope they ditch the origins in divinity. It's so hard to write a compelling story when every companion has to be a unique snowflake with their own destiny
>>729715543>Durge has amnesia from the thingPoor guy :(
>>729716230I'll never understand Gortashfags
>>729715543What rewrites? Can I get a qrd?
>>729715752>You WILL play a Critical Role episodeI hate hasbro so fucking much. the rewrites, which made the games worse and contributed to the game being released unfinished with a lot of cut act 3 things, was 100% due to hasbro wanting >muh synergy between the chris pine movie, BG3 and the new edition that years and wanted them to all have a >muh critical role tone
>>729716156They forget the rule.
>>729715817>I forgot how to have health>>729715970>>729716156Tav was an after thought. the Tav character in the early access was supposed to be a bhaalspawn and went on to be durge in the full release. they just stripped all the origin tags off a character and that became tav
>>729716446Characters were rewritten in the middle of development. There's your quick rundown.
>>729716230>>729716347>furfaggot shit>>729716446you can check the wiki and see if you can download the early access. some quick pointsLae'zel and Shart were nastier to the player and acted more evilGale shows up, does not prove he has a tadpole or was on the ship, is a normal rapist instead of a gay one, tries to sexually harass Shart and makes a deal with raphel if you don't give him items to eatHalsin killed Isobel and the act 2 timeline with Ketheric makes more sensethere's an upper city in act 3 with more shit there like the vamp lairWyll is just some guy who made a pact with the devil to be a hero instead of his jacob bitchboy persona
>>729715543I hate the tadpole shit so much. Completely ruined the game for me.
>>729715970Tav is the cop out option for faggot self inserters. You're supposed to play Durge.
>>729716729>furfaggot shitMr. Swen "The Lizard Lover" Vincke would like to have a word with youhttps://www.twitch.tv/larianstudios/clip/AverageFunDonutDancingBanana-9aIudf5m5RTyxY6W
>>729716879>quirky reddit murderhobo is the way you're supposed to playretard
>>729716879>you're not supposed to RP in this RPGStrange
>>729715543>mind broken twink vamp>hypersexual bipolar teenager>bicurious unc with mage-aids>satanic sexual deviant>a literal demonic nigger>used-up roastie toastie looking to settle downhonorable mentions:>degenerate gay druid (beastiality)>degenerate goblin fucker (beastiality)>a literal cuck who's supreme leader is a woman>a woman
No wonder the MC is a mute faggot that just smiles awkwardly or reels in terror.
>>729717115the PC in bg1 and 2 was a bhaal spawn >>729717119you roleplay by not knowing what's going on. plus durge is literally a blank slate other than the urges at the start of the game
>origin character as companion is voiced>origin character as PC is silentThis alone makes it better to make your own.
>>729717156>>used-up roastie toastie looking to settle downI swear to god karlach has a line about how she's been pumped and dumped a bunch of times
>>729717247>not killing that demon on sightYikes
>>729717191>the PC in bg1 and 2 was a bhaal spawnAnd yet it didn't force you into any epic le funny violence XD situations
>>729715543the most unrealistic part in the story is that Shadowfart managed to steal the astral prism
>>729717327there's a part where cultists summon a devil, it's like wtf and slaughters them, then leaves. i thought it was kind of funny.
>>729715543>Lae'zel's like 17uhh frogbros your response?
>>729715543>even though the main character doesn't factor into the narrativeWhat a gem of a gaem >>729715752They have so much fun. I like how they don't force smiles.
how much time do I have to kill Isobel, before the butler kills a companion?
>>729717541Out of ten.
>>729716593Completely uncalled for. They worked nearly 2y on the scenario, why rewrite? Can't you make a scenario up? In 2y time? Lame.
>>729717327The only thing you're forced into in BG3 is the camp murder and its not particularly funny (unless you cheesed knocking out the tiefling bard and got the scalie instead). After that point the *urge* is pretty much a non factor if you don't want it to be, which it wont be for most people because Larian is retarded and doesnt understand that you're supposed to be entice people to be evil with power, not do the opposite by depriving them of tons of content, equipment and companions.
>>729717327I'm pretty sure the only time you're forced into violence in bg3 is the Alfiera thing. I think it happened more times in the EA but in the release version it's literally just the Alfera scene and you can avoid everything else without metagaming or preplanning
>>729717419there were other characters who died helping her get it. she was just the medic >>729717541if you read the "official" stats they aged her up to 22 and Karlach's 30 but Lae'zel and Shart are both written like 17 year olds and Karlach's written as mid 20s
>>729717582durge factors into the narritive>>729717662idk how late they got the rewrite orders>>729717717god I hate how only like shart gets rewarded for being evil and even then she doesn't get rewarded that much. they clearly had evil routes for all the characters and then did the gay mass effect thing where the good options always work out and always give you more rewards. I think the only time the good option doesn't reward you in the mass effect games is if you kill the rachni queen and then spare the reaper rachni. and again you need to take the evil option of killing the rachni queen in 1 for that to even be an option
>>729716507Fucking nigger with the long hair whatever his name is, he did the Dispatch thing too, mercer something?Yeah anyway he's in so much shit he is absolute cancer he's like a safe version of that loser from naughtydog only he's connected with the unionized clique of twitter voice actors and actresses who exert influence by rimming establishment media and towing the line. Fuck them and fuck everything they represent.Insidious poison you guys have no idea what's coming still.
>>729717717>>729717784Literally a few minutes into the game you get the option to cut off gale's hand for no reason because it's so freakin random and hilarious
>>729715861>can't into ironyZoomzoom tourist is time you livestream your suicide and donate your r*ddit gold ;)
>>729718037They shouldn't have rewritten it at all. Cutting the upper city was a last minute call, as the quests in act 3 feel gutted and it's clear that minsc and minthara had act 1 lines, but don't have act 2 lines, so they were put into act 2 and 3 respectively to save time.
>>729717865>aged her upWhy do they bother doing this? These creatures aren't human and their culture has nothing to do with modern-day earth. If you want Laezel to be 5, go for it. It doesn't matter.
>>729718064mercer's kind of a faggot but I'm sure he didn't have any say or influence over the rewrites. hasbro's publicly traded. it was normal blackrock jewish shit >>729718142>the option toso it's an option and not mandatory? ok so then what's the issue?Also I always cut off gale's hand so he can't rape me
>>729718298>They shouldn't have rewritten it at allyeah, but it wasn't their call. it was hasbro being publicly traded dei jews>Cutting the upper city was a last minute callhasbro made them rewrite a bunch of shit close to release and made them push the release date up a month to beat slopfield to market. larian is still seething about hasbro and refuses to do an expansion or DE to fix the cut content>>729718562>Why do they bother doing this?for the same reason they aged up all the characters in the game of thrones show when they're all realistic ages in the books. because Lae'zel talks about having tons of casual sex and Lae'zel and Karlach being whores is le good but mentioning the having casual sex before 18 is totally pedo stuff
>>729718731Idk, dos2 has the same problems. I don't see larian as saints. They criminally front load their games, everything they do has a whimsical tone, they just can't drama, only clown or killer clown, nothing in between. Their games are fun for meta gaming, but intolerable for role playing.>laesel has to be 18Gith grow up faster. Is it true that they are humans from the future?
>>729716156i'm gonna be honest, the more larian makes games the less companions i tolerateseems like i only really cared about karlachlae'zel is stupid evil but she's young so it's fine and she can be taughtwyll is just boring and i hate warlocks or anything related to selling your soul like a fucking retardgale is a sexpesthalsin is a sexpestjaheira is a wasted companion and is powered down for 0 reason while also being a SECOND druid in the party along with being ANOTHER elfshart is a sharran but you can fix that likeminsc is a wasted companion, same place as jaheiraminthara is a dark elfkarlach gets fucked over and 0 closure other than some vague "you might be able to fix it in hell winky face"i don't have high hopes for the next game
>>729719013>Is it true that they are humans from the future?they don't mention that in game and they didn't want to do the >she's 45 on her homeplanet chudgreen lantern thing
>>729719463>wyll is just boring and i hate warlocks or anything related to selling your soul like a fucking retardUnderstandable. It's a shame Larian redid his character at the last second to make a boring 'generic good guy' with the "twist" being shitty circumstance>gale is a sexpest>halsin is a sexpestI still don't understand taking this as a serious interpretation. All the Halsin and Gale rapist memes were and still are fun though>jaheira is a wasted companion and is powered down for 0 reason while also being a SECOND druid in the party along with being ANOTHER elf>minsc is a wasted companion, same place as jaheiraWasted potential, definitely. No arguing there>minthara is a dark elfAmazingly pragmatic, insightful and sober dark elf considering the entire situation. Makes great addition to the camp of "vagabonds and strays">karlach gets fucked over and 0 closure other than some vague "you might be able to fix it in hell winky face"Her point is the tolkienesque "many that live deserve death and some that die deserve life" and the struggle against an undue lot with pretty hobbit-adjacent attitude of hers, just instead of Shire is Baldur's Gate. So I don't mind her, and potentially yours, ultimate fate being left without closure because it's about treading the path of adversity for hope, principles and life against all odds>lae'zel is stupid evil but she's young so it's fine and she can be taughtDon't you dare talking shit about our beautiful sweet frogette certified
>baldur's gate>bhaalspawn even though the saga is closed>minsc, jaheira, viconiaIt was a lazy and shameless cashgrab. That's all there is to it.
>>729719463I like how Laezel is a young adult high on state media propaganda. also there's nothing wrong with Karlach not getting a happy ending, nor the lack or over-representation of races and classes. I'm tired of the generic "one of each" circus in RPGs. the only thing that REALLY triggers me is Karlach's "fuck yes". I always have to resist the urge throwing her off a cliff when she says it. her mood swings from whiny bitch to badass barbarian are also annoying
>>729720610>I still don't understand taking this as a serious interpretation.cause that's all they do. every piece of halsin dialogue after thaniel is about sex in some way>I was fucking a she bear>I was a sex slave for a decade when I was 4And both Gale and Halsin were made way too easy to accidently romance when Karlach and Shart are slightly easier to fuck up. Karlach especially if you fuck up the timing since her romance flag is bugged
>>729720884>It was a lazy and shameless cashgrab.>made by hasbro>came out the same year as film, mtg and new edition blitzno shit
>>729721082Larian are the good guys here. They broke with hasbro due to their shitty practices.
>>729715543Level ups are a silly concept all together. Give me more realistic systems where you can't level up until a dagger doesn't hurt you anymore, it makes no sense.
>>729715543Alfira should have joined and Kagha should have been an alternative to Helsin. It makes perfect sense to have a choice of goody druid, redemption druid, or create another evil woman.
>cant side with the goblinsso then why do they pretend like theres a choice with defending or attacking the grove? you get actually nothing out of it. id still torch the fucking tiefling shitters but at least make it have weight to it
>>729721986refugees good (even though it literally shows the trannylings robbing the druids and harpers) chud
>>729715543im gonna get shit for this but people really hype up the upper city thing, like it definitely is cut content but there is literally zero files of it in the game, the only thing that exists is unfinished quest triggers.if it was removed 3 weeks before launch like some people claim, there would be SOME evidence left. fuck, we have leftover scrapped EA quests still in the files. it would have to be there SOMEWHERE. i think its more likely it was cut in the middle of development.
>>729722267not to mention that act 3 is perfectly fine. people pretend like it's 4 hours of rushed content or something, when in reality the act is still huge
>>729722267>>729722406act 3 was buggy as shit on release. IDK if they even fixed the firebombing the abortion clinic mission where the only way to do it was to kill everyone and the guards and enemies could see you through walls and shit.the upper city was probably going to be in DLC or a DE. as it stands the vampire mansion is just in a random wall
>>729722406It's huge but nothing in it is well made or interesting
>>729719013i think thats a bit unfair. lohse has one of the best and most moving companion quesltines ive seen in a crpg. and generally on a line by line basis all their companion writing is pretty good and on point. also i feel like dos2's story/setting is practically grimdark without the more lighthearted stuff to balance it out
>>729722515its unfortunate but also pretty common in this genre. arx on release was a mess and needed DE to fix it. Kingmaker literally could not be completed on launch, it was so buggy they forgot to add in the trigger to actually complete the final quest.its why I always wait at least a year before playing any given rpg. you're just fucking yourself over if you don't.
Should they cut origin characters all together in the new Divinity y/n ?My vote goes to y
>>729722540imo the city is the most beautiful environment in the game, it was amazing seeing it all come together and still be explorable. and i think there are some well made dungeons: house of hope, bhall temple, wyrmway>>729722809ythe benefits of origin characters simply do not make up for the massive drawbacks in resource allocation alone. it'd be much better to make custom characters more distinctive from each other. for divinity, they could expand the tag system that was in DOS2: let us choose more tags, let those tags show up more/be more relevant in the game, have tags for gameplay choices, etc.i do think its pretty likely they remove them given how little people picked them in bg3. also the origin playthroughs in bg3 are pretty low budget so it feels more like they did it out of obligation because they said they would in EA
>>729722809I'm not against Origin characters. I like the concept of playing as the conpanions as the protagonist and get unique resolutions for their quests and endings. The issue is that the games are too big to replay and most prefer having a custom character to try whatever they want without being limited by the origin character limits.
>>729723152a common criticism i heard of the bg3 origin playthroughs were that it was equally as/more satisfying to see their stories as a companion than playing them as an origin. so the appeal was mostly null.also idk if im hallucinating this but i could swear I once read their thoughts behind the origin system as being a way to get people new to rpgs playing the game without worrying about creating a character or coming up with a backstory (basically they could play it like a jrpg). but given that all the normies in bg3 played a custom character anyway, that benefit was also irrelevant. i do think its cool in theory though.
>>729722958>i do think its pretty likely they remove themIf it's a prestige issue for someone at the company it's unlikely. Like if the idea came from Swen personally they wont remove it for any reason. They've already shoehorned it into a Baldurs Gate game where it has no place at all.
>>729723435>prestige issuehow much do you know about the development of bg3? they removed a ton of shit because of player feedback. people hated the narrator being your character in past tense so much that they redid thousands of lines of dialogue, even though that might have been important to the vision they were trying to realize. so many people complained about reactions not being in EA they decided to add them in even though they originally weren't going to. they won't waste money on an unpopular feature just for pride.
>>729723571>so many people complained about reactions not being in EAwhat?
>>729723694during EA reactions not being in the game was a hot button issue. aside from paladin, it was the most highly requested feature to be added to EA. larian said in an interview they weren't going to add it in originally because "it slowed down combat too much" but they said they're glad they listened in the end because it made combat more interesting.
I find Wyll while fun if you use him to play an evil playthough. Anyone else tried this?
>>729715752This TRVKE killed millions.
>>729723845the problem is that you are still playing a warlock at the end of the day, which while being awesome conceptually, is one of the most boring and badly designed 5e classes out there.
>>729723928Can't you switch class?
>>729715543The last thing abtable wants to hear is a five page long exposition one why one of the characters is a badass dragon fucker despite being level 1.
>>729723928Explain how they are more boring than playing any non-magic class with a crossbow.
