>better than monika>still predates her by over 4 years>forgotten by everyone but "femcel" larpers online
what about that girl that fucks a dog tho
>>729752621who did what?
>>729752432They aren't even the same character archetype or trope though. It's not a surprise that a fomo game is remembered while a previously untranslated VN that nobody in the west played isn't either.
>>729752835>It's not a surprise that a fomo game is rememberedno, that actually is a surprise
>>729752835i can't think of many obsessive girls that break a vn because they want you anon
>>729752432I love Miyuki and agree that she's one of the best romance VN heroines I've seen.That said if a femcel is larping as her they probably fundamentally misunderstood the story of Totono and how she's a victim of lopsided genre conventions and double standards that work against her. The rules of her reality are literally warped so that she will always be a femcel if she doesn't end up with one specific person, while that person just resets reality after their happy ending to pursue other women. Or maybe they actually did understand it perfectly I dunno.>>729752835Totono and DDLC comparisons are weird.On a superficial level it's very easy to shove the two together into the same "meta horror subversion of romance VNs" box.Actually reading the two reveals that they're incredibly different otherwise, from the framing of the metafictional elements to the overall themes and tone of the stories.Going deeper than that Totono actually becomes a very good measuring stick to illustrate why DDLC's use of metafiction feels so shallow and how poorly it was actually implemented into the story's (lack of) cohesive narrative/thematic through line.
>>729752943Why would you be surprised about that? There's plenty of other threads on /v/ that pop up only for a short while that people fondly remember years later, DDLC releasing for free and everyone having fun with it or mocking it is one them. Heck, the only reason a lot of /v/ anons even know the OP pic is because people were bringing it up back then as a shitpost.
>>729752835It's more of a surprise that DDLC got away with ripping off all its mechanics and ideas from this game. >>729752432She's not even popular among people who like the game. She's my favorite because she loved (YOU) more than Aoi ever could. Aoi was like >lol I'm a whore who sleeps with everyone but i do it because I love youMeanwhile Miyuki was like>fuck this bitch *bat* fuck this dog *bat* and fuck you too *bat(lovingly)* Honestly based a woman who knows what she wants and takes it.
>>729752432My wife Aoi is better than both!I wish I could find a physical copy of Totono somewhere...
>>729752432Totono got translated too late and also has the major normiebitch debuff that comes from being an eroge. Also, DDLC is free. Still, I think it's pretty popular for a 12+ year old VN. Me, I'm still waiting for people to realize Mojika exists and got translated.>>729752621Doesn't happen.
>>729753358but you cant compare aoi to any of the doki dokis>>729753321you're a manwhore anon you fucked plenty of vidya girls
>>729752945Yeah, but luckily we're all smart cookies and can look further than surface level comparisons. The totono VN is an actual VN where the meta stuff is woven into a proper romance and character driven narrative, DDLC is only about Monika who is not an available route forcing one and the meta aspects themselves in a horror sense. The only comparable part really is the last scene with the credits where Monika sings a song she wrote, but even that's a stretch. They aren't the same character archetype at all and they don't go through the same struggles or storyline. If all you want to do is say that it did the 4th wall breaks better or that DDLC is shit, that's fine though. I only really liked the music and the /v/ threads.
>>729753438>but you cant compare aoi to any of the doki dokisShe's that special
>>729753358
biribirisuru?
>>729753416The implication that normal niggers entering the eroge space would be a good thing confuses me. That would completely ruin it
>>729752432I still think about Miyuki every single day. She might just be a fictional character in a video game, but on some schizophrenic metaphysical level I'm convinced the bond she and I share is real.
>>729752771All these VNs. The dogfucking, the futanari, the NTR.
People misunderstanding my Aoi is the saddest thing ever... the ge itself legit debunks everything being said about her... why people don't read???? ,____,
>>729756551The amount of people posting about it and actually reading a like a 100:1 ratio
her game wasn't translated until recently
>>729753358>>729754790 She's technically all the doki dokis tho?
If Aoi is every girl, does that make Miyuki Aoi?
Is the SLURP the greatest filter of all time?
>>729757097Yes
>>729752432Because her VN was absolute dogshit. I tried playing it because of the yandere 4th wall break stuff but I absolutely hated it by the time I got there and it wasn't worth it.Imagine if the only way you could get to the Monika part of the story was to not only fuck a whore, but forgive her and eat out the previous dudes cum like a literal cuck, then go to a stupid timeloop segment that goes on for too long.
>>729752432And I still chose Aoi.
>>729757238Yes>>729757294Case in point
>>729755806I thought the threesome scene was hot
>>729752432The comparisons between Totono and DDLC are annoyingly surface level and anyone who thinks that the latter ripped off the former is kidding themselves. Visual novels have done that kind of weird meta shit decades before Totono - Elf did it repeatedly back in the 90s with stuff like YU-NO and Shuusaku.
don't forget about her, anon.>>727756328
>>729759802>An unspeakable loneliness will attack me. Too real
>>729752432No one cares about your ntr slop game.
>>729752432I never finished the game since I got stuck in the loop forever after failing to escape. It's cute if you open she greets and has special messages even.
QRD on how this is NTR? I have quite literally zero context on what happens other than that the game breaks the fourth wall.
>>729761891It's simple. The pink haired girl is a shapeshifter sent by god to different visual novels to collect romance scenes. While you're on her route the other girl (who you have dated in the previous route) becomes sentient and spreads rumours about the pink girl being a slut who's sleeping with everyone despite having a boyfriend. This causes the protagonist to get mad and refuse sex with the pink haired girl. But here's the catch: the pink haired girl will lose her purpose and die if she doesn't have sex, so she cheats on you with a femboy (although there's no confirmation and she swears it was only a kiss). Once everything is revealed you have a threesome with the femboy where you drink his cum out of the girl's pussy to prove that you truly love her. She tells you that she loves you and that she doesn't want to abandon you, so you promise that it's okay for her to sleep around if it means you can stay in the same game together. Pink haired girl confesses that she has slept with old men and dogs and shotas but you don't care, this causes the black haired girl to get really mad and try to kill everyone and she hacks the game and traps you in this endless loop until she breaks down and asks you to choose the real girl you want to date and makes you promise that you're not gonna watch the other ending on Youtube.That's all there is to it.
>>729761891the right choice doesn't have NTR. Play it already and stop asking questions.
Can you fuck off with your disgusting ntr games you gross trannies.I pity some poor soul that picks this shit up because it looks decent on surface or whatever.
>>729761891Okay, this is off the top of my head so it probably has some inconsistencies:One of the two heroines, Aoi, is this weird amalgamation-of-all-VN-heroines-ever entity (I don't remember the details, sorry) and literally requires CGs and story relevance to live. In most cases, the game defaults to Miyuki's route and Aoi literally ceases to exist, disappearing from memory. If you tryhard enough after the first playthrough you can snap into Aoi's route, where after enough time she will wind up attempting to cheat on the protagonist because her content has been exhausted and she's going to disappear if she doesn't get CGs elsewhere. She doesn't actually go through with it, but the protagonist winds up convinced that she did do it by Miyuki (who maintains memory of past routes and is very mad that YOU are cheating on her). He confronts her about it, she dumps literally everything about her existence and what's going on onto the protagonist and it leads to him calling the guy she tried to fuck to his house and having her fuck him. Then it turns into a weird threesome and he ends up slurping the other guy's cum out of her pussy and it's (intentionally) the weirdest most retarded shit ever in an attempt to filter YOU and make YOU fuck off.I speak of the protagonist as separate from the player because he is narratively different from the player, who the game refers to as YOU. The main point of the bat-shit insane NTR cum slurper plot he forces to happen is to piss YOU off and disgust YOU and drive YOU away. There's no glorification of the cuckening or anything, it's a literal tard filter within the plot. I don't know how else to explain it. It's also the boiling point that forces Miyuki to take action and leads to the second half of the game where she modifies everything to lobotomize the protagonist (who is YOUr only interface) and stay with YOU forever.
>>729763181I don't think it's a good writing choice to intentionally piss off players. Sounds like Freddy got fingered tier rage baiting.
>>729763162>>729763165>>729763181No fucking way there's a VN that hates its players so much that they make them slurp up the bull's cum out of their waifu's cunt. I thought Japan learned from every time some guy threatens to bomb their offices over this shit.
>>729759802I remember making those posts back in 2015. It's been ten years, how amazing. I remember playing Totono when it came out in Japanese. I'm still rather sad the game became a meme on /v/ due to Aoi's cuck route. I remember seeing Miyuki's yandere face in the neutral ending, and wondering where else that face would crop up. Little did I know it would be meta-horror. Nobody really talks about how it changes the UI, which I thought was a good touch.
>>729764765It's not ragebait when the game tells you what is going to happen. Aoi tells you she's a whore and not to pursue her, Miyuki constantly tries to keep you away from her, and even the protagonist has doubts about her. You can tell her to fuck off get with the other girl at any point too. If you have to stick your head underneath the guillotine yourself before the executioner drops the blade.
Reminder: YOU don't do it. Shinichi does.
>>729765159It does suck that you can't get the rest of the content without doing it though. There should've been a way to make Miyuki do her thing without doing the Aoi cucky dance.
>>729758059I don't think DDLC ripped Totono off, but I still think they essentially try to do the same thing and Totono does it way better.
>>729765359I kind of agree, but at the same time Aoi's entire point in the narrative is to show you what it's like to be on the receiving end of a VN protagonist. I think removing the scene kind of weakens the things and would make Miyuki's motivations more flimsy. It could probably work, but you'd have to rewrite Aoi's character to make it work imo.
>>729752432recency bias is a bitch, yeah we know
>>729765359Who gives a shit? This isn't a crescendo situation where the best girl is a prostitute, she is shit-tier from start to finish.
>>729764765You're the only one who is getting upset over a bunch of fictional women you're going to forget in a couple days, anon.
>>729763172Okay wise guy, post your favorite visual novel right now or your waifu gets NTR in her sleep.
