I've noticed that even outside of this board, people don't like him. Why do people dislike him as a character compared to the dullness that was his Greek counterpart?
By who? I didn't vote for Trump (no I didn't vote for the halfu either) but despise nuKratos. Meanwhile, all my friends who did vote for Trump give me annoyed expressions when I bring up what a cuck nuKratos is.
>>729759414>Boy, the only REAL gods in this world are Bipoc and trans women
>>729759414It became a meme. That’s how memes work.
>>729759414>I've noticed that even outside of this boardWhere. Everyone dickrides nu GoW outside of /v/.
>AREEEEEEEEEES!!!>GIVE ME A SWITCH 2 AND MY WIFE IS YOURS!!!
Because he dared to say that people should be better, and the world is full of assholes who are happy as they are.
>>729759414>dullness that was his Greek counterpartYou will never ever get why videogames work, you are obsessed with pushing a certain moral view or message.
>>729759414>No "BETTER MAN" within the first 10 postsI mean it's not good. But I'm still, well I'm not proud of you all either. But you all still deserve a silver sticker
He's taking care of someone else's kid. This is actually far worse than than a husband and wife adopting a kid together, or even marrying a woman with kids already with the father at least supporting the kid. Kratos is just taking care of someone else's kid entirely, dad ain't even around. He's raising him for no reason at all.
Because they took a character who was established as being a violent murderous vengeful fuckhead and turned him into a boring stepdad.
>>729760505The problem is the concept of being a “better man” implied by the narrative.
>>729760915>>729760974Still crazy that Atreus is Kratos' son, him having Spartan rage, despite only using it one time, debunks the bastardy.However, his mom is still a whore, and Kratos and Atreus do not act like they are biologically related. What the fuck was that about? Freudian overload by the cuck writers?
>>729760915I’m pretty sure the wife’s son thing is just a meme. The boy is his biological son and the mother isn’t kratos’ wife.
>>729759414News flash y'all, folks who don't like him are fash scum.
>>729761330>What the fuck was that about?Kratos literally fucks off and leaves Atreus to be with his mom only to visit a few times because he didn't want Atreus to take anything after him
A lot of the hype for nu-GoW was fake and attracted a new audience that doesnt care as much even though they were extremely vocal when the games were fresh.These games will not stand the test of time.
>>729761584Same with how people are starting to shit on TLOU.
>>729761330I never played a single GoW game but I've researched it enough (particularly, participating in Kratos threads on /v/) to come to the conclusion that it's not his kid.
>>729759414He's just lame now.I liked Kratos because he was a bloodthirsty bastard with a soft side, now he's just some lame ass with super strength like Professor Hulk.
>>729759414Its literally you 50 kids repeating the same 10 stepdad memes. Its actually still pretty popular outside of your faggy little circlejerk.
>>729761220So you'll have to fill me in because I've only actually played GoW4 where Kratos verbally explains what being better means>Atreus: So I’m a man now, like you.>Kratos: No. We are not men. We are more than that. The responsibility is far greater. And you must be better than me. Understand? Say it.>Atreus: I will be better.>Kratos: The power of this weapon, any weapon, comes from here…>[He touches Atreus’ heart.]>Kratos: …but only when tempered by this.>[He touches Atreus’ head.]>Kratos: By the discipline, the self-control of the one who wields it. That is where the true strength of a warrior lies. You must never forget that.In the Greek series, Kratos lost his fucking mind. It's not that he wasn't strong. It was his lack of responsibility for his actions. He killed his family because he was killing everything in front of him without looking at who he was killing first. He was the gods' beat stick for years as they stripped him off everything. And then at the end of it all, he wiped out nearly all life in Greece, including the afterlife they're supposed to go to after death, because of his single grudge against his father. Everyone else died for something that had nothing to do with them. And Kratos would rather his son not follow in his, or Zeus's, footsteps. Which, for a psycho killing machine, is about as close to redemption as he could ever hope to get. So how do we get from that to "my wife's son?"
>>729761686yeah but at least TLOU was gay shit on its own and didnt rape something cooler.I mean I guess it did rape itself with the sequel but that shit was always movie dad gamer slop in the first place.
>>729759414/v/ specifically shat on the first reboot with God of Onions memes. Game came out and was a supprise for being pretty alright.Second game drops, rushes the story. Feels like a story that was supposed to be a trilogy shoved entirely into the sequel. The sequel actually does a lot of the onions shit people memed about and is a bit of a wet fart that tarnished what came before. Now he's the poster child for "better men" memes.
>Look, boy! I let go of my toxic masculinity and became a better man!>So when she brought home the nubian Gods I swallowed my problematic white fragility and prepped her bulls!>This is what it means to be a better man, boy!>Now, if I catch you watching anymore of that manosphere GARBAGE I'm going yo take you to a BIPOC drag queen story hour!
>>729761743be better
>>729761743>unc is proud to be a cuckAlright blud, you do you.
>>729759414I just kind of miss characters going through the full heroes journey and escaping their low point very quickly. Nu-movies and games always have the protagonist repeatedly slump into defeat or humility or trauma or whatever else and forget that they need to make a triumphant and dynamic rise. Instead characters just kind of stagnate in their low points as if that is a victory in itself. Its why everyone hates "revenge bad" stories now. A character is grieved, maintains that low point for the entire story, and gets no satisfaction or dynamic change, and rights no wrongs. It's basically the opposite of storytelling, especially in the action genre. The longer writers make characters stew on their past or mistakes, the more BORING the story will be.
>>729761748>So how do we get from that to "my wife's son?"by spamming the board for months/years until other people start joining in
>>729761748>So how do we get from that to "my wife's son?"If you're not a violent raging narcissistic sociopath, you're a weak beta cuck who lets everyone fuck his wife. There's nothing in between.
>>729759414Because he's boring. You can sit there and argue he's better written, or more mature, but it's not nearly as exciting as someone getting irrationally angry and ripping a giant monster in half. If anything, OG Kratos would be a breath of fresh air among Playstation protagonists.
>Nooooo! Don't mock my snoy movie slop!What is this place? Man.
>>729759414He is an in-universe virtue-signaler who uses his better man shtick as a lame deflection of the fact he left Greece a mess. >>729761514Would you like Mussolini if after WWII instead of being hung he fled to Sweden and claimed he'd be a better man?
>>729762325>noooooo! Don't mock my shitty old meme!Chuds gonna chud.
would you play it
>>729759414Its the hard 180 they did on the franchise and alienated the majority of classic gow fans>A straight to action franchiseNow its cutscenes, some walking, some plot exposure, some backtracking, and then some action.>Plot was just angry kratos going after the gods to avenge his dead familyNow its the old and remorseful father, who is forced to kill again and face his own sins in a symbolic journey with his son to a fucking giant graveyard to spead his wife's ashes or some shit>Gameplay was a straightforward hack n slash game where enemies give you orbs to upgrade your weaponsNow its a Tlou2 based game where you deal with cooldowns, rpg elements, and Atreus as a sidekick>Lore? Its just fucking ancient greece lol. Enjoy the epic vistas and have some short descriptions about them here and there.Have some fucking endless wall of texts to read about fucking everything regarding the norse mythos>Cool UIMinimalistic and modern but with a norse theme aesthetic(tm) UI>Simple puzzles to break the icePuzzles are more annoying and there are sidequests to waste your time as well>cool enemies, bosses and big boobed ladiesNow its all draugrs, giants and some valkyries for bosses, and also girlbosses>No real message; just some bloody testosterone filled actionPreachy message that tried to capitalize on the woke culture by taking a shit on the old gow games. It was weaponized by troons, sois and onlyfans whores who moralized about the "toxic" average white male gamer online
>>729762451You're right. Im a better man. Ill sit back silently when a trans woman of color is speaking. Go ahead, queen.
>>729761748you're trying to find some meaning into it when even the writers have no idea what they're doing, there is no deep message here, the writing is just pitiful. so you're telling me the guy who slaughtered a pantheon, the god-killer with decades of wisdom can only come up with "be better"? which means literally fucking nothing?
>>729759414Truth is most people who played and enjoy God of War were too young to have played the PS2 games. It also raised a simple question: should the character from what him appealing in the first place? Rather than some huge overhauls maybe the answer is "we don't drag a series out forever". There was a period when God of War was relevant for what it was, and there was no need to reboot it but money talks so here we are.
>>729762548>A straight to action franchise>Now its cutscenes, some walking, some plot exposure, some backtracking, and then some action.This shit genuinely applies to all modern games. Everything is so stretched out and slow. If you boot up an old game in the first hour you'll have a cutscene, tutorial and then its just raw gameplay. Now its just cutscenes, gameplay, then more cutscenes, then another tutorial 5 hours in, with lore dumps everywhere, and npcs taking up several mins at a time etc etc. Its like the game tries to wrestle away the player's autonomy from it
>Boy! Look away from your mother's bull!>You NEVER look your superiors in the eye!>Now get the lotion and help me prep!>That's it boy, you'll surely become a better man than me.
>>729759414they turned him into a faggot
>>729762138>>729762231Okay so it's FFX HA HA HA all over again. It's so fucking weird, Kratos isn't even telling Atreus to let people walk all over him. He's just saying to act with discipline and be ready to take responsibility for his own actions. Which is reasonable. "I'm fucking mad" is not a reason to burn down a country. I was gonna compare Kratos to Zeus but at least Zeus built something over the ashes. Kratos didn't even like himself for what he was, why would he want his son to be anything like him? So yeah, he's desperately trying to teach his son self control to guide his natural born strength in a way that doesn't leave millions of corpses and decades of regret at his feet. Again though, this is me assuming 5 is at least consistent with 4.
>>729762647What do you mean "find meaning?" He fucking says it. There's nothing to find when the dialogue just gives it to you
If the Tazmanian devil got his anger issues under control, would that make him a better or worse character in your eyes?
>>729762813Yeah. This is proportional to the long production cycles. The longer the production cycle, the higher the costs are. As a result, they have to raise the price if they want to make profit, so they strech the game to be "big and epic" in order to justify its egregious pricetag, and also be appealing to gamers.
>>729763229Well Merry Melodies isn't a serialized series so it's not even attempting the same thing. A better comparison would incredible hulk to smart hulk which there are far, FAR bigger problems with that travesty of a character before we start talking about his lack of rage
>>729763069>Kratos didn't even like himself for what he was, why would he want his son to be anything like him?Because the whole point of having kids is making more of you, so when you die, you don't really die.
>>729762647What he comes up with is basic mindfulness, man. It's not complex. He means be aware of your consequences. Know what killing a man will mean before you kill him. Know what killing a god will mean before you kill him.
>>729759414i didnt like or care for god of war even before but i sure hate him now.
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>TYROOOOONNNEEEEE!!!!>DID YOU JUST HECKIN PULL OUT!?!?!*throws Switch 2 at the drywall*>YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO GIVE ME A SON!!!*stomps his labo airplane*>I GOT MY VASECTOMY SO I COULDN'T SPREAD MY WHITE PRIVILEGE!!!*smashes his custom 60% keyboard*>I NEED YOU TO HELP ESTABLISH THE BNWO TYRONE!!!*lifts and smiles at his Black Panther funko pop*>NOW GET BACK IN THERE AND MAKE ME A SON!!!
>>729759414These men haven't become Better yet. Ignore them.
>>729759414>recentlyDad of War was never liked.
Powerful.
>>729763589how the fuck is that the whole point of having kids? when i die i fucking die, and my kids should be their own people with their own desires. they should be BETTER than me, not just "more of me".thats the most retarded shit ive ever heard.
>>729763589Okay but why would Kratos want to perpetuate his own mania when during his moments of lucidity he's horrified at himself. There are multiple instances throughout the series where he'll calm down, reflect on what he just did, and say some variant of "by the gods what have I become?" Just long enough for something else to piss him off and send him into another manic state. By God's end, who's left? Aphrodite? Did he killMorpheus after Chains of Olympus? The only Greek god left to kill is himself but he tried that and it didn't work.
>>729763589Your kids aren't you BPDtard
>>729763229>what happened if a cartoon animal stopped being cartoony?Considering the state of animation today, especially Western animation, you have fucked your point up.
>>729763185>>729763630>It's not complex. yes and this is my whole point, what kratos is saying is the most basic and shallow shit ever, hes saying the same shit some self-improvement influencer would try to sell to you. its not deep and its not meaningful whatsoever yet the narrative tries to present it like its some critical point, the writing is that pitiful.
>>729764353You are right of course. The story had been way better if he instead held a 10 hour philosophy course for his 10 year old son.You should really write the story instead. You are clearly the best and most brilliant writer in all of history.
>>729763589What kind of faggot doesnt want his son to surpass him?
>>729764353What are you even saying? Writing doesn't need to be deep or complex to treat it's serious moments with the proper gravity. The Lion King is a fucking Disney movie and a musical too. But just because it's not deep doesn't mean it doesn't know when to shut the fuck up and let a moment be a moment. Case in point when Simba, who's spent years larping as a nobody is told by 3 characters that he is a King and he has a responsibility to act as such for his Pride even if he's struggling with misplaced guilt. A message so simple it was marketed to 9 year olds and they understood it.
It would be like one of the TF2 mercs trying to become some kind of guru. The whiplash was too much for /v/
>>729759414Because Kratos is a better man than I am..
I just think they pushed way too hard with him being ""mature"" and regretful. Like the idea was good but they went overboard with it (especially in Ragnarok) to the point where it became unbearable.One of the biggest problem with modern vidya is that devs nowadays are insecure about making vidya and playing vidya so they desperately try to appear "mature" and "adult" which creates the opposite effect since desperation is always cringe.
>>729759414One of the writers on the new games is Anthony Burch. That should explain a lot.
LOL
>>729759414Because the video game community isn't ready to become BETTER MEN.
>>729764482What a lame ass post. I accept your consneedssion in anon's place. You lost this online debate.
>>729759414>m.jpg
>>729764482This faggot is seriously defending Anthony Burch.
We must be better game developers.
>>729759737>>729760207>POOOOODDDDSSSSS!!!
What kind of women marry those "Better men"?
>>729765326BPD roasties. They drain the betabuxx while fucking criminals on the side
There is no time for laziness. Put in the work.
>>729761514lmao
/v/oys... I have a message for you...https://youtu.be/E5kT5Svl5-8?t=95
>>729765471While hard work is certainly a fucking noble endevour are that many kids really taking this performative shit seriously?
I wonder what it is about Kratos that causes incels to endlessly seethe and and come up with all the cliche bad excuses and copes.
>>729759414They ruined the gameplayThey ruined the story The ruined the visuals. NuKratos looks 1 foot shorter with a disgusting wide waste and basedboy beard.
>>729765623Just dumb chuds, ignore them. Keep calm, take your estrogen, clean Jamal and Tyrone once they are finished; we are on the right side of history sister.
>>729765326This kind of woman
>>729765684What happened to you that triggers you this hard over some random game? Did the entire dev team run a train on you or something?
>>729765794You quoted the wrong post sister
>>729765794This nigga really out here gaslighting that there weren't classic GoW fans who were pissed that some cuckold changed everything they loved about the franchise to suit their own personal and political gain.
>>729765840No. No I did not. I am talking to you. You are clearly triggered.
>>729765885We are on the same side sis, stand down
>>729765684You're right anon, I'm going to take my HRT and watch the new episode of Fallout.
>>729765873Loved the franchise so much nobody bought the last 2 games in it.
We must fuck better men
>>729765931>sideWhat are these imaginary sides of yours? Explain your delusion.
>>729765885>You are clearly triggered LMFAO
>>729764041>how the fuck is that the whole point of having kids?You have to preserve your existence at all costs. Otherwise you don't deserve to exist and neither does your bloodline. You need to see your kids as just an extension of yourself.>>729764128>Okay but why would Kratos want to perpetuate his own maniaBecause it's his. That's it.>>729764168If your kids aren't you, you have failed as a parent.>>729764515You have to eliminate all threats to your dominance. Allowing those threats to exist is showing weakness. Remember, only you matter.
>>729766038The right side of history
>>729765978Because they were on the PSP, you disingenuous fuck
>>729766038The side that respects trans bipoc women and shuts our dumb cracker asses up when theyre speaking in order to become better men.
>>729766103Ascension was a ps3 game.
>>729759414Its often used as an icon of positive masculinity by people who should never speak on masculinity. "We must be better men", despite being a positive sentiment, is automatically associated with being a cuckold. Most people still like him, its mostly just a terminally online thing.
>>729766053You have a personality disorder. Making children only in a vain attempt to perpetuate your own ego is fucking pathetic.
>>729766042Aw. The triggered snowflake can't handle it and are lashing out with some retarded meme he got from spending 10 hours on tiktok today. How sad.
>>729766189>"We must be better men",To me, this is an assumption that we arent already doing "better" and we're in fact doing bad. its not a positive imo
>>729766189Good message told by the wrong people
>>729766189>Most people still like himAt this point it's only terminally online third worlders who take power scaling seriously
>>729766189>is automatically associated with being a cuckoldOnly if you are already a pathetic loser faggot that can't even imagine having any feelings other than rage and more rage.
>>729766325What is it with third world browns and being obsessed with power level autism? Who the fuck cares if Kratos is 5D or not, what the fuck
>>729765873Okay but the problem is that people bitching about it keep making shit up to justify it. It can't just be that they tried to bring a power fantasy down to earth. No it has to be that Kratos, apparently, is both a cuck and is raising someone else's bastard. Which is fucking stupid. I'm sorry to keep bringing FFX into the conversation but it's like how people say that idea of that game is "religion bad" while disregarding the fact the world power in that game is a theocracy as opposed to an empire in most games or a business in the really popular other game. So you can't be surprised when people call you stupid it because the memes hyperfixate on one small thing that isn't even true.I don't agree with this guy >>729766053. But he just wanted to ride his rage monster around for 15 hours and honestly, fair enough. Norse Kratos is expressly not a rage monster and if that's what you liked about GoW then I'm sorry you lost that. Hell I'm not some stoic. I love a good power fantasy too. But why lie and make shit up?
>>729766194No, it's the way things are supposed to be. You must see everything that is not an extension of yourself as a threat to yourself. Everything you cannot subjugate and bend to your will must be destroyed. You'll never be safe otherwise. And you want to be safe, don't you?
>>729759414He is better men while most people are worse men. When people learn to become better men they will start to like Kratos.
>>729761748This analysis of Kratos is objectively correct. The problem is who he's culturally associated with now, which are cucks (in all definitions of the word). Its a matter of guilt by association. Anyone not in the loop can appreciate him, but I still like memeing better man Kratos.
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>>729766512>But he just wanted to ride his rage monster around for 15 hoursNot true at all. I actually want everyone to ride their rage monsters around forever.
>>729766512>apparently>>729761105This one line destroyed any defense NuKratos has.
>>729766549I hated nu-Kratos until I watched sissy hypno for 2 weeks straight. Now I love him!
It is kind of realistically impossible for real kratos to be a cuck. I remember older games had minigames where you just found a woman and fucked her. A guy who meets and fucks like that wouldn't settle for sloppy seconds.
>>729759414Because they butchered his character into what some fatherless faggot believes is a "strong man".
>>729761105The train of jotunn cock your mother took was her business. Sit down, listen and learn
>>729761514Post the Tyr is fucking your wife one
>>729759414Kratosura mindraped millions.
>>729766706His choice in philophers back then we're the Athenian equivalent of Andrew Tate. He changed for the better.
>>729761514>>729766804Someone already posted it actually
>>729766804>>729761959
>>729766598kek
>>729761105is this line actually in the game
>>729760505I will not be lectured on what a "better" man is by weak sheltered californians.Fuck off with your slave motality bullshit.
It is an IPA... from my homeland
>>729767101That's right! Claw and bite at all that offends you! Howl and snarl in rage! Forfeit your sanity and sapience! Become the monster you were always meant to be!
>>729767101Ummm, just because we run away when a beautiful nubian man rapes our overweight girlfriend doesn't make us "sheltered" Chud
>>729759414The new god of war games are just kinda lame. Made by people who don't have much interest in video games and don't know how to translate their interests into gameplay, which is why the combat adheres to general industry trends and market research. The part of the game that's more "personal" to the devs is the walk and talk interactive cutscene shit where Kratos is used as a mouthpiece for what a sheltered californian with no real life experiences thinks are deep wisdoms about masculinity and parenting. Compare with the PS2 games where the devs were motivated by the desire to be able to play through a Ray Harryhausen adventure movie that's got some of that 2000s edge injected into it.
>>729767221Lil bro out here so mad he's lowkirkenuinely roleplaying as an anime character
>>729767039Yes but the context isn’t cuckshit, it’s Kratos avoiding talking about how Atreus’s mom was a violent revolutionary. Atreus was being an impulsive, hotheaded retard at the time and telling him that would just fan that attitude and get him killed. NuKratos is a weak and pathetic emasculated cuckold, but that line isn’t why.
>>729761330>Still crazy that Atreus is Kratos' sonJury is still out on that one
>>729759414Recently? Honeymoon phase is wearing off with only fujos liking nuKratos. As for why he’s disliked, he’s portrayed as a cuck(Kratos didn’t defend himself when Odin implied Atreus wasn’t his kid), he advocated for peace(the God of WAR advocated for peace lmfao), and a goddess who is a prodigy in magic matches with Kratos in strength
>>729759414I CAN'T TREE
>>729767559Let me paint you a word picture. Imagine a man, naked and bloodsoaked, sitting on a mountain of corpses, in a cold, dark, dead world, staring into space, grinning from ear to ear, and saying "I win." over and over again, forever. Now, you can be that guy, or you can be one of the corpses he's sitting on. Make your choice, before someone else chooses for you.
The studio behind GoW is posting shit like this and people really wonder why Kratos is a joke now
I think a part of it being very basic themes (i.e temper yourself, being a better father, not repeating sins of the past) are being portrayed as this revolutionary concept is a big part of it.I also think many people feel like the new games are just trying to shit on the old ones.Honestly the idea isn't bad. The seeds were planted in GoW 3. The execution isnt the best tho, esp when it demands a lot of cutscenes.
>>729765763What was the story behind this again? He killed himself or something?
>>729767809
>>729767680Just remembered another thing: Kratos fucking cried not for his 1st family, but his 2nd
>>729767809hes a betterman
>>729761584This always seemed the case for the Gow franchise in general. Just seemed like one of those games you had to buy because it was one of the few non weeb exclusive for play station but no one was actually passionate about the series.It was always over advertised
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They really fucked this reboot series by not making it a trilogy
God of War they call me but I prefer Kratos, there is no need for such toxic pathos.Men you need not to be monsters no longer, I will TEACH you how to become stronger.Being better man is easy, first step is to stop being sleazy.No woman likes an angry brute, its much better to learn to play flute."But Kratos that's not manly" you say, that way of thinking is where the problems lay.Look at Asura the slave of his anger, all he accomplished was putting his beloveds in danger.Much better to be gentle and calm, expressing feelings is the healing balm.You cry "But Kratos what if she had other men", thinking your girl should live trapped in pen.Whatever the lady did in the past doesn't matter, internalize this and watch your anxiety scatter.Next you claim "Kratos, I don't want to take it in the ass", that's merely another fear you must surpass.Inserting things in the butt is perfectly fine, love takes many forms and none of them are out of line.As long as you and your partner consent, no one cares where your genitals went."But Kratos I want to learn how to break a mountain" you plead, that way of toxic thinking should not spread.Mountains are wonders of nature full of life, destroying them only causes strife.Protect, conserve and seek joy, do not wantonly cause destruction and destroy.Follow my TEACHINGS in every way you can, then you too shall become a better man!
Any real ideas for the next game or when to expect it? I hope it actually is in Egypt and they kill atreus off to bring back OG Kratos. In reality, it's the logical choice.>hurr but he just got over all his baggageExactly, and that's why you break the hero again. By this point we've seen enough sappy emotional Kratos, everyone wants the badass back.
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>>729759414I dislike nuKratos cause he represents modern male guilt. No women think about being better but these types of characters are always males. If it was just one GoW game, sure, but we have two and a DLC dedicated to making Kratos into a better man. Frankly, what is Kratos being better for? Wiping out a horrific pantheon?
>>729768779Agreed. Ragnarok is way too rushed, the game and event. They really fucked up only having two gods in the first game, with one being a handicapped witch who you don't even fight. I get it was supposed to be more like the first GoW where you don't slay all the gods from the start, but that fucked them for the next game. None of the Aesir have enough screen time and instead we got two hours of traveling through the jungle with a black girl. It wouldn't be as frustrating if they had 3 games to flesh everything out, and its not like the gameplay getting stale would've been a problem considering fans played the OG series to death with the blades of chaos. It just disappoints me thinking about what could've been. They should've seen Kratos to Hel and skipped 20 years like they planned. Everyone would've been harsher due to his death and it wouldn't have felt like a stroll through some realms like Ragnarok.
>>729766518You are weak
>>729767221This but unironically
>>729765471
I don't even care about the stupid ass writing, I just don't like the static, zoomed-in, over-the shoulder camera. It never feels good in any game at that specific angle, and especially feels fucking weird with melee combat. It feels detached.Dogshit game(s) designed by niggas who don't play vidya and whose endgame is probably a Netflix series that reads like a Sopranos knockoff.
>>729766413I am white autist and im still butthurt after Kratos na azura
>>729769171Forgot, you do kill Thor's sons in 2018, which just makes Thor not killing Kratos kind of stupid at the start the next game.
Guts from Berserk is a better version of nuKratos in every way. He still fights off his darker thoughts on favor of making his life better but he also knows when to take down some shitty demons
>>729759414He's just that easy to make fun of>>729759759
>>729759414Ah shut up already
>>729767786Blud definitely got bullied in school
>>729760915>He's taking care of someone else's kidUh no he isn't
>>729762254A character that you can't even get invested in is not written well at all. Asura from Asura's Wrath or Father/Brother Nier is what nu-Kratos should've been if he was well-written: a powerful man whose power rivals that of fate itself with very intrinsic flaws/trauma of some sort that still rises to the occasion when his loved ones are in danger (Mithra/Yonah). You know, just like old Kratos in relation to his wife and kids that were unjustly killed by the gods.Instead, he's just babysitting his retarded step-son for his whore wife. THe game's listed above will still have their fans until those niggas die of old age, but even now the casual audience that "praised" nu-GoW were always sick of it because who cares about this melodramatic bullshit? There's no stakes, there's no sense of doing what has to be done to protect his loved ones in the game. I hate modern game stories because they suck absolute dogshit and they have the gall to take so much time to say nothing worthwhile.
>>729766343Lay off the estrogen.
>>729767101you choose get lectured on what masculity and being an "alpha" is by people who look like this instead
>>729769561“BLUD cap FR senpai skull emoji”-smoke alarm chirp
>>729769746honestly if he bulked up he would look p good
YO THIS THREAD JUST GOT BUSSIN SHEEEEEESH
>>729769746>He can only think in e-celeb slopSad
>>729759737I'm so happy someone else appreciated my contribution to being a better man.
>>729769746At least post the actual writer.
>>729759414ZEEEEUUUUSSSSSYOUR WIFE'S SON HAS RETURNED
I'm replaying GoW the OG, and he was OW THE EDGE 99% of the time but it's the 1% of the time when he realizes what he is, what he has turned into what makes it worth it. Now he is 100% onions because we can't have an irredeemable son of a bitch being thought as cool anymore.
It also doesn't help that they had to give him that full beard rather than his classic facial hair.Because of [CURRENT YEAR] I've come to associate it with limp-wristed soiboys who treat having a beard like the last gasp of trying to hold onto a sense of masculinity.
>>729772065BEARDS ARE SO COOL
>>729759414>I've noticed that even outside of this board, people don't like him.No you haven't.
God of War has the most secondary haters of any franchise on /v/. It's pretty insane.
>>729761748The real reason is people are sick and tired of redemption stories. We want to see some action not a bunch of slow ass whining. That being said. GOW4 never should have happened. Kratos's story ended like a true Greek tragedy, it was cheap and insulting to continue it the way they did.
>basement dwelling incels seething about being told to be betterGrow up.
>>729772624Yes sister, I will be better! Crush the patriarchy!
>>729759414>recentlygo away marketer jeet
>>729761748Play GoW 5, you'll get it
>>729759414You are baiting, but in your baiting you let something slip: learn what a reboot is retard.
>>729773140This woman taught Booker to be a better man.
>>729773140Ah, a better man. Beautiful.
>>729766325z on the 'cuck
>>729765763All that and she's not even really a dyke. Women these days are just desperate for some kind of quirky identity to make them "unique" while at the same time part of a "community".
>>729761748No one on v has actually played norse GOW.
>>729777870>vTourist.
>>729759414I think it's because people don't like hipsters.
>>729767201I bet the gods of olympus did this.
Because he's a fucking effeminate pussy that lets women yell at him and tell him what to do.
We MUST be better men...and prep our bulls...For those who come after...
It's crazy how good the new GoW games are, can't believe they're made by the Playstation slop machine
>>729759414God of cope
>>729759414character assassinated kratos, ruined everything that made him an IP and identifiable character the writing team did not understand the assignment and actively hated greek myth storytelling, did everything possible to ground it in american tv melodramathe original creator liked the subversion of the first game, but disliked and disavowed the game series after they continue to destroy the brand he created, equated it to what they did to indiana jones
>>729763924lmao
>>729773140Booker really was the original Better Man, letting Elizabeth kill him because racism bad or someshit.
>>729777870No one has played Norse GoW.
>>729766194The fact that you're desperate to frame it as pathethic proves otherwise. For the sake of argument, lets say that it is fucking pathethic. Why would you try to convince him not to do something pathethic? Wouldn't it be better if you just stood there and watch your ideological enemy continue his pathethic ways and self-sabotage?Or maybe your rhetoric is full of shit?>ib4 I dont care which is why I care to say how much I dont care.
>>729766194>>729782995I've heard from certain esoteric sources that you reincarnate into blood descendants, and if you don't have any you're doomed to an eternal void. I don't believe it of course, but there's no harm erring on the side of caution.
>>729759414>compared to the dullness that was his Greek counterpart?Nu-Kratos isn't even Kratos. The only thing he has in common with Greek Kratos is sharing a name and a tattoo. What they've done to him isn't character development, it's a completely different person and his constant moping and moralising is unbelievably boring. The talking head is a faggot too.>Heimdall gives nu-Kratos absolutely no choice in killing him>NOOOOOO BRUTHA THIS ISN'T WHO YOU WANT TO BE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOKratos didn't need to "be better" because his story was over. The Dad of War games just feel like a very spiteful attempt at murdering a character people loved because he was an unrepentant piece of shit. David Jaffe is a crazy moron but he was right about these games.
do leftists not realize how bad all this shit looks?
>>729783283>brutally mashes a guy's face in and chokes his lights out when the fight is clearly overHe was already beaten and didn't need to beat him to a bloody pulp like poseidon or zeus.
>>729779903That's every male character in the new games. All of them get belittled by Freya, or Sif, or Thrud, or Faye, or Lunda, or that dark elf I can't remember the name of.
>>729763924GEM ALERT!!!
>>729759414>recently
>>729759414funniest image of 2026 so far!
The chud fears self improvement
>>729763924
>TYRONE? TYRONE?! WHAT'S GOING ON BACK THERE?!? WHY DO I NOT HEAR ANY MOANING FROM THAT BITCH OF A WHITE WIFE>*pauses disco elysium and looks behind him*>OH OH OH... OH MY FAUCI SCIENCE SZECHUAN SAUCE AND STRANGER THINGS ABOVE!!!! WHAT THE FUCK TYRONE, WHY ARE YOU BENDED OVER? HONEY WHY DO YOU HAVE A STRAP ON EQUIPPED?!>*smashes the controller at the tv in the background playing Hasanabi's livestream*>YOU DECIDED TO SWITCH THINGS UP?! TYRONE, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING, THAT'S NOT WHY I BROUGHT YOU HERE>YOU FUCKING CHEATING BITCH, AND IT'S MY FAVORITE STRAP ON ASWELL, HOW COULD YOU DO THIS!!>YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GET KNOCKED UP BY TYRONE AFTER I GOT A VASECTOMY TO DELIVER BEAUTIFUL MIXED CHILDREN AND TERMINATE THE WHITE RACE>GREAT! FUCKING GREAT! NOW I'M TURNED ON BY WHAT I JUST SAID AND I CAN'T EVEN USE MY FAVORITE DILDO TO RELIEVE MYSELF BECAUSE IT'S UP IN TYRONE'S ASSHOLE>I THINK I HAVE TO MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS, DON'T TALK TO ANYONE ABOUT THIS, ALL THE GUYS ARE GOING TO LAUGH AT ME AT THE VAUSHCON NEXT WEEK>I DON'T EVEN THINK I CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCO ELYSIUM SPEEDRUN COMPETITION THERE NOW, THIS MENTAL TOLL IS TOO BIG FOR ME TO HANDLE>IF YOU WANT ME I'LL BE IN MY ROOM LISTENING TO JEFFRE CANTU LEDESMA TO CALM DOWN A BIT
>>729783531Do you honestly believe that narc piece of shit Heimdall would just give up? Talk about guillable.
>>729783531>when the fight is clearly overHeimdall had absolutely no intention of giving up and letting him go, and later they were all in agreement he didn't give Kratos a choice. Heimdall had to die. The brutality of it is irrelevant.
>>729783769>*pauses disco elysium and looks behind him*
>>729783898He was a white male, of course he had to die. Freja spending years trying to kill you and your son though, nah that's fine we can let that slide.
>>729783869>>729783898I'm not saying he shouldn't have killed him. He definitely should've, but not by completely demolishing him. There was no need to give in to the rage once he knew Hemidall wasnt a threat anymore.
>>729784158>but not by completely demolishing himHe got his arm blown off and regrew it in under ten seconds. He absolutely had to demolish him.
>>729767221Correct. Those are the only things that can move a man.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyUx-NzH6uo
>>729759414I never like Kratos to begin with. God of War was always the shitty western character action game whose only saving grace was naked tits. Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry were so much better, the mediocre series just got glazed by shootballers with no taste in games.
I hate this onions writing shit where an antagonist can be a complete monster but as soon as the protagonist gets an upper hand they have to suddenly give infinite forgiveness and pray to Saint Floyd.>b-but they used t-too much forceDamn nigger, who caused them to have to use force in the first place? The antagonist????>t-they should only use t-this exact amount of forceEpic. So an antagonist/aggressor can just go gorilla mode without thought, and for some reason the defender has to bust out their powerpoint presentation and test tubes to figure out exactly how much they can fight back. That doesn't sound dystopian at all.Just fucking kill the nigger. He already came at you with lethal force and you've never seen anything that would hint that the character could be redeemed or that they would spare you the same favor.ITS VERY JEWISH.
>>729784398AhemNigger
>>729784452Goy of War
You guys think they'll ever make a piece of media about black guys needing to be better? Maybe a story about females needing to be better women? Nu-GoW genuinely represents modern day white guilt humiliation rituals
>>729761514>>729761959keeeeeek. This shit is so embarrassing.
Because sulking in the past isn't actually masculine. Learning from mistakes is but Kratos is forced to be in a constant state of guilt while the people around him (particularly the women) are mostly monsters
>>729784669>You guys think they'll ever make a piece of media about black guys needing to be better?They did all the time before the Obama years. There was so much media pointing out the crabs in the bucket mentality they had. Now it's just encouraging it.
>>729785046Climbing out of the bucket is white behaviour, stop being an Uncle Tom.
>>729784205You're retarded. The whole idea of the game is for Kratos to "be better" than he was, not kill in a brutal, bloodlust manner. Hemidall was a piece of shit, but that doesn't mean you stoop to his level. The idea of Kratos not having honor was the whole point of the OG series and in the newer games he starts trying to build some, that's why the head tells him to stop. He doesn't need to he that angry, chaotic killer, but he still kills when he needs to.>>729784452>stooping to the bad guys' level is the way to go bro>fuck morals and valuesYou must be a fun person.
>>729784669You'll get your "wish" when the mods ban soijaks
>>729767559>lowkirkenuinely
>>729785046Everybody Hates Chris was peak black culture
>>729784669>You guys think they'll ever make a piece of media about black guys needing to be better?San Andreas?>Maybe a story about females needing to be better women?This would be cool.
>>729785589So was The Bernie Mac Show.
Why are these black gods in NORSE mythology?
>>729785719They migrated up from sub-Saharan Africa, unironically.
>ctrl f better>62 resultsheh
>>729785647Never played San Andreas, is it really about that?
>>729761584High IQ take. In fact I'd say they've already failed the test of time. Few years ago saying you prefered OG GoW would get you buried in downdoots, but more and more that's becoming a common sentiment.
>>729761959Wypipo do shit like this then expect to be taken seriously online baka
BETTERMEEEEEEEEEEN
>>729759608why are you talking to people about god of war it is 2026
>>729759414They turned him from söiboy power fantasy to söiboy self indulgement
>>729785448>Getting angry at and killing the biggest threat in the room that was openly gleeful about the prospect of killing you, your son and everyone you know any way you can is "stooping" to their levelIf they wanted to have a "be better" moment that doesn't fall flat on its face, then they should have chosen an antagonist other than Heimdall.
>>729785847Yeah, CJ, the main character, escaped the ghetto and left San Andreas to escape the gangbanger lifestyle until his mother passed away. The game is about Carl Johnson being wrapped up in gangbanger drama and police corruption.
>>729786196>Spends the whole game doing gang shit and ends it by making sure his gang is the only one that exists unimpeded by corrupt copsThis isn't the best example.
>>729786192This.If you wanna have Kratos embody the whole "be better" character, then don't have his antagonist be a irredeemable murderous psycho.
>>729759414GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODSHELP MY SON TRANSITION AND MY WIFE IS YOURS
>>729761330Never played the game but I heard that Kratos had just met the boy the day the game starts that's why they're so estranged
>>729786362I'm pretty sure gangs only exist because of competition and customers. Without those two things, they lose their purpose. But none of that matters anymore because in GTA 5, Grove Street still lives on, fighting other gangs.
>>729783769>>729763924I like the idea that Tyrone just have no choice in any of this and he's just stuck between a cuck that owns him and the cuck's wife who's also insane
>>729784669>Your brain on /pol/
>>729759414because he represents the ideal male to lefty bipoc trannies: inoffensive, submissive and willing to kill himself for them. none of that shit represents who he used to be, we're told to "be better" a ton of times but never actually shown or even told what the fuck that means. if this isn't fucking propaganda then nothing is
>>729786192>>729786371It was to show how Kratos used to be. He lost control because he was fighting someone that used to be like him. Yeah, there are no consequences but Thor is shown to be a piece of shit later and threaten atreus but Kratos spares him. Kratos realized he doesn't need to a bloodthirsty psycho, just a killer when he has to like I said before. Smashing up Hemidall would probably remind him of when he did zeus as well.
>>729760505you're not wrong, I AM an asshole and also love who I am. kratos is a cuck and I'd tell him that to his face knowing the fag wouldn't do shit. even Odin talked smack about his kid not being his
>>729787158You mean that lesson he already learned at the end of GoW4 when he killed Baldur for daring to harm m'lady?
