>hardest prime game>best prime gameShould journalist not be allowed to review games? Why did it get so low rating? Was it because the journalist failed at the boss fights?
>>729798252I really don't know, I mean the desert sections are boring but the rest of the game is kino. Pretty sure people are just shitting on it for views.
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Prime 4 is harder than Prime 2 on Gamecube?
>>729798252Journalists can't even move two joysticks at the same time. The rare footage we see of journalists playing games online is only the tip of the iceberg. The real juice is running your own site and then going to press events and seeing how much of a mouthbreather they are in real time.
>>729798572I'm getting to the desert now and so far this is the best prime game. >Pretty sure people are just shitting on it for views.pretty much that's why I hate anything modern online.
>>729798252The only boss that gave me the most trouble was the flare pool one, every other boss including sylux was a joke in comparison
>>729798252>Hardest prime gameAs someone who actually beat the game, this is objectively false. Bosses shit health drops all over you throughout the fight which makes them fairly easy to beat. Boost Guardian mogs every boss in this game.
I'm tired of the prime 3 slander it is WAY berrer than this, AND it has better challenge
>>729798252>hardest prime gamenice joke, unless you're talking about the hard mode which obviously isn't the default mode of play. although it was sort of hard to beat through all the boredom.the actual hardest mp game is 2, but this is a meaningless measure for a metroid game to begin with as none of them are truly hard to begin with.
>>729799268The first and only game over I ever got was the final battle against Sylux because I didn't care to help the faggot NPCs
I just got the final key and the game keeps getting worse and worse. The only good part so far was the second "sylux" fight
>>729799132Absolutely not lmao. I've been working on a hard run in Prime 4, and the only real challenge through Ice Belt has been the initial visit to Volt Forge (psybots are fucking tanky; helps to aim for their heads). Nothing holds a candle to boost guardian.
>>729798252You are talking about prime 2.I believe you posted the wrong image on accident.No worries op, it happens to the best of us>>729799217Don't worry it's about to get way worse.>>729799428As someone who feels 3 was my least favorite, I respect that it was trying something different and it actually does a good job - it might be the weakest, but it was still serviceable and much more soulful than this garbage. Some of the additions were very cool like the gunship stuff, and the boss fights are great (if you can get past the awful awful Wii controls), and some of the environment design is top notch (especially skytown, pirate homeworld, phaaze, etc)It's warmed up to me in recent years, and even though I wanted a game more like prime 2, I do enjoy 3 and it accomplished what it set out to do. It's definitely more linear and handholdy than the first couple games and guides the player pretty much the whole time, and the areas are more segmented off, but it still feels much more cohesive than prime 4. Basically prime 4 took everything I didn't like about 3 and 10x'd it, without having any of 3s strengths like the cool set pieces, clever motion control usage, unique and challenging bosses (if you don't cheese everything with hyper mode / play on easy), and some real stakes with characters the player likes actually dying.Some argue that the moment after the one boss fight where Samus has to puke out a bunch of poisonous phazon is the most human she's been in the series.
>>729799217>I'm getting to the desert now and so far this is the best prime game.Oh no no no no
>>729799540You can see how dark souls was influenced by prime 1&2 though. Especially 2.>>729799623The mines are actually terrible. Laziest level design. I was tempted to pull out the turbo controller.>>729799770>>729799363Did you guys know boost guardian was actually nerfed in later versions of the game? Emperor Ing too.I forget the exact numbers but it's legit shit like boost guardian doing 60 Damage in 1.0 to 40 damage on prime trilogy which is what most people use for primehack.
>hardest prime gameI died only once at the end during the QTE to activate the warp see what would happen if I didn't press anything
I see the Christmas kiddies are hard at work trying to "correct the record"
>>729800136>Did you guys know boost guardian was actually nerfed in later versions of the game?I've always heard this, but I've never ran the numbers, myself. I try to warn people about Trilogy's "normal" mode; still don't understand why the devs made that change.
>>729799217lmaoGet ready to apologize
>>729800067>>729800506I like the bike and the open world area don't see a problem with it
>>729800358It's not just trilogy, some versions of prime on GameCube also. I actually have two copies of prime 2, one I got at Christmas in 2004 and one like "greatest hits" version I got years later, and it's different in that one. On the back of the case it says version like 1.03 or 1.04 or something.
>>729798252I thought the journos were full of shit too until i actually beat the game. 8 is a very fair score
>>729798252>>best prime gameSays who, redditspacer? You? Lmao
>>729800805There's no way this game is 79 and Prime 1 is 97. Absolute retarded journos
>>729798252Go to bed, Megan. Even normalfags hated your quippy MCUslop >>729800805
>>729800805>You? LmaoYes, it's pretty obvious that OP is stating their own personal opinion.
>>729800837Prime 1 is literally the best in the series, troon.
>>729801210tbf if you want to compare lava areas, Magmoor is also a boring straight line
>>729801656It also had 5 elevators scattered throughout connecting to other nonlinear areas, so that's not really comparable.
>>729801826>It also had 5 elevators scattered throughout connecting to other nonlinear areasHonestly one of Prime's biggest flaws. Magmoor is the worst area in the game, but it's like the highway that connects to everything.
>>729802101Kinda telling that one of Prime 1's biggest flaws (which is frankly pretty overstated) is better than even the worst parts of 4.
>>729800837Context you retard. Gaylo wasn't even out yet at that time. Neither was cod or bf or hl2>>729801656Magmoor is prime 1's worst zone and it's still better than prime 4s best zone. It also has multiple entrances and connected to every zone in the game
>>729802428*even the best parts of 4
>people unironically defending Prime 4 after weeks of OH NO NO NO and AHAHAHAHA in the threads
>>729800837I think there might've been a small difference between the two. Something like 25 years, not sure though.
>>729802543There are people who like it. You're just very vocal about your hatred for it because you have some kind of malicious agenda. No one who actually played it came away from it thinking it was as bad as you make it out to be.About an 8 is a pretty good score, because the Mines area was the worst part of the game and genuinely could use some work. I played Fallen Order and that scored about an 80 on Metacritic also. It had big problems too, so the scores for both games seem fair.Retro will probably work on a quick sequel for Metroid Prime 4 and will actually do it right. If you say, "no they wont", or, "it will be bad", then you prove yourself to be a shill with a malicious agenda.
Probably weakest of the series but I still had funHas the best bossfights and combat systems of all 4 games though and the finall boss fight against sylux was gigakino
>>729802719>You're just very vocal about your hatred for it because you have some kind of malicious agenda.>No one who actually played it came away from it thinking it was as bad as you make it out to be.>then you prove yourself to be a shill with a malicious agenda.
>>729802793What is your reason to go around saying how bad a game is? Why do you do it?
>>729802853To express disappointment with how it turned out for how long it took, and concern for the future of the series (and even Nintendo games as a whole if they greenlit this). I'm so sorry that industry and community reception to this era of Nintendo isn't going 100% your way this time around, anon. It must be tough for you.
>>729798252>>729798572>>729802719>linear>same 2 enemies 90% of the time>feddies >empty desert>no fun beams like in 2
>>729798252Hardest when prime 2 exists? I mean how many times did you die during your playthrough of Prime 4?
>>729802962No, you're being sensational and wasting your time. Prime 4 isn't as bad as you say it is. Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order had zombies in Star Wars and it got an 80 on Metacritic when in fact it failed in a multitude more ways than Metroid Prime 4, yet they're scored the same.I'm sure they will release 5 and it will be much better because they can reuse assets or repurpose the new things they used for 4. Overall 4 is a fun and different chapter for Samus. You can always play Prime 1 again
>>729803249>No, you're being sensational and wasting your timeSays the mincing little faggot screaming about malicious agendas.
>>729802719Ah yes, telling people not to buy shit games = they are a shill.
>>729803360>>729803370No one wastes their time shitting on a game so hard for weeks on end (unfairly and delusionally as well) unless they're mentally handicapped
>>729803249>but Star Wars!What are you even trying to screech about here?
>>729803435and what does that have to do with my post?
>>729803119
I fixed magmoor caverns
>>729803527can you fix prime 4 now?
>>729803448It's called making comparisons for argument's sake and to make it easier for you to understand where your screeching (which you are projecting onto me) is steering you wrong to the point of delusion and why you're shitting up the board to block rational discussion.
>>729803551impossible
>>729803573rational discussion is when claiming criticism of a nintendo game is some evil conspiracy
>>729803573But Star Wars has less to do with Prime 4 being dogshit than you with having standards.
>>729803679You sit in Metroid threads and shit on the game in the same way for weeks on end instead of actually playing games. Why would I not think you have some sort of hidden agenda? Are you just mentally handicapped?
>>729799132Not even a fraction, i dunno what OP is talking about. I never even died in 4.
>>729803749>You sit in Metroid threads and shit on the game in the same way for weeks on end instead of actually playing gamesAnd you sit in threads and desperately defend the game in the same way for weeks on end instead of actually playing games. You think forcing positivity gives you inherent moral superiority.
>>729803749I think your mom should have aborted you for our sake, her sake and your own sake. You're having a mental breakdown because you're FAS ridden brain's perceived boogeyman doesn't like your favorite company.
>>729802543>>people unironically defending Prime 4 after weeks of OH NO NO NO and AHAHAHAHA in the threadsPC faggots and snoys are unironically not humans so nobody cares what they write.
>>729803846what about metroid fans?
Why do people say bad things about the game I like? I'm going to pee my pants.
>>729803842It's just not as bad as you say it is. It had problems in the Great Mines and that's about it. It scored an 8 which is accurate, because games like Fallen Order had glaring problems too. Do you consider an 80 to be a complete failure?Take your meds, I've taken mine.
>>729804035mines was just the same shit as the fire and ice zones whose names I've already forgotten. linear scripted shit babysitting npcs with repetitive button mash combat.
>>729798252Trannycore game that genuinely fucking sucks, the only people I see defending slop like this are either the blatantly mentally ill, the niggercattle fanboys, and women. Basically non humans lmao
>>729804035>It's just not as bad as you say it is.You're right! It's worse! DOHOHOHOHOHO also it's at 78 now, keep up champ
>>729804035Take more until the bottle is empty, we’ll all feel better then
Why are some people still so willing to defend this game when even Nintendo has thrown it under the bus.
>>729804252Because mouselike controls in MP4 was one of the things they were looking the most forward to when they bought their Switch 2s lmao
>>729802543>still making these threads for weeks on end
>>729799132No. Prime 4 is definitely easier than Prime 2 and 3 on their normal difficulties.
what a piece of shit ending, totally unsatisfying, ruins in it imo
Even Nintendo is embarrassed of this game. Why continue to defend it?
>puppetcuck
>>729804364>easier than 3 on NormalSo it's the easiest game in the series then. 3 on Hypermode is like 1 on Normal.
>>729798252>>hardest prime game>>best prime game>Should journalist not be allowed to review games? Why did it get so low rating? Was it because the journalist failed at the boss fights?
>>729798252>hardest prime gameIt's just the least balanced Prime game.The other three games had a somewhat consistent level of difficulty (or lack thereof) while Prime 4 is generally very easy and forgiving except when you get hit by extremely specific attacks. Checkpoints are also very inconsistent.
>>729804473>Syndrome out of nowhere
>>729804450>3 on Hypermode is like 1 on Normal.I do not agree with you at all.I found 3 on Hypermode to be a very difficult experience, especially in regards to the bosses. No matter how hard you believe Prime 1 to be, there is nothing as difficult as Hypermode Mogenar or Hypermode Gandrayda.
>>729804374so why is the good ending that your friends die?
Most Metroid games do a good job of masking their linearity while Prime 4 just doesn't even hide it. You can basically draw a straight line from the boost ball to space boots in Prime 1, but it doesn't feel like that because you get the boost ball in Phendrana, go back through Magmoor, take an elevator you probably missed earlier into Tallon Overworld, and then happen to be right by a boost ball half pipe that leads you to the space boots. It's natural and admittedly linear progression that feels exploratory. Prime 4 just gets rid of any of that setup. Go to Ice Belt and see a frozen door. Drive straight through Sol Valley. Go straight in Flare Pool and take one right to find a chip. Go straight through Sol Valley. Go straight through Fury Green. Talk to Myles to get Fire Shot. Go straight through Sol Valley. Melt the door and now you can enter the self-contained Ice Belt. I like individual mechanics of Prime 4 and the presentation is absolutely stellar, but the way the parts of the game fit together is just abysmal.
>>729804450I think I died in every other Prime, and I'm petty sure I'm getting worse at games as I get older, yet I never saw the game over screen in 4, so yeah.
Here are my notes I've taken so far. I've just reached the point where I have all of the keys, but not all the mech parts or green crystals.So Far:>No visors beyond Psychic Visor>No alternate suits>Disappointing Volt Forge Training Course. It felt like a different game, it should have been contextualized similarly to the creation of the Vi-O-La.>Bad Names. Psychic Boost Ball, Psychic Power Bomb, etc., boring enemy and location names>Music is good when present, often it is replaced with boring ambience.>NPCs become more involved and persistently interrupt as the game progresses>The game thinks I care about the NPCs and their stories far more than I do>Areas get less interesting as the game progresses, the mine is upsettingly generic and formulaic.>Sylux is so far a non character>Portrayal of Samus is strange, she acts weird around people. I never took Samus to be a silent protagonist, she just never interacts with people. She has spoken in many games (Super, Fusion, Dread, Other M)>Beam choices are bog standard boring, >Beam Ammo is okay>Visuals are generally great>Character and location designs are less interesting than MP Trilogy, the Grievers look too much like Reptilicus of Bryyo>NPC melodrama is embarrassingBetter than Other M, at least, but otherwise it's the worst Metroid I've played.
>>729804582>>729804450also these fucking things
>>729804374It's really weird, has Metroid ever had such a non conclusive ending?
>>729799585Samus would never not help you monster. If a single fed bruises his knee and samus doesnt kiss it and tell everything will be ok Sylux wins bigly.
>>729804621>I like individual mechanics of Prime 4 ... but the way the parts of the game fit together is just abysmal.Agreed there. I liked a lot of the puzzles. The new abilities were alright.
some of the bosses have projectiles that you need the gyro for, this is dumb shit when you play with sticks
>>729800358Some people don't know this but Prime 2 was made quickly. Very quickly. Like, Majora's Mask/Silent Hill 3 levels of fast. The game has all sorts of design shortcuts and concessions to meet its deadline, and the fact that it's a near masterpiece despite that is truly incredible. That said, the powers that be at Retro were pretty quickly regretting some of their difficulty tuning, most notably with the boost and spider guardians. That, and the ammo systems, are probably the first things the people that actually made Prime 2 would fix.
>>729804638>>Disappointing Volt Forge Training Course. It felt like a different game, it should have been contextualized similarly to the creation of the Vi-O-La.I really don't get why they train you on a racing course when it has nothing to do with the context in which you actually use it.
the game was fucking awful. Nintendo straight up lied twice when they announced this was in development. theres no way.
>>729804759I just went in settings and enabled revised lock-on free aim. It works well with sticks.
>>729804840what were the lies?
>tendie thread>extremely low quality threadAmazing how these two go hand in hand.
>>729804927>extremely low quality gameThis too.
>>729804759Incorrect. You can move the right stick when locked on to an enemy and it will automatically aim at its weaknesses. You can beat Aberax just fine with the stick controls.
>>729804582Eh, it's been years since I played 3 but I crashed through Hypermode multiple times back when it was new. If not 1, then 2 was definitely a steeper challenge. I do recall Gandrayda being my favorite fight in the game by a good margin so maybe you have a point on that one. The issue has a lot to do with Hypermode's implementation, the game HAS to shower you in health for the mechanic to see any practical use and so it does.
>>729798252>Why did it get so low ratingESL-kun...
>>729804995I strongly recommend you go back through the trilogy, or at least prime 3 on hypermode.I thought it was very rough when I finished up a playthrough in October.
>>729804638>Bad Names. Psychic Boost Ball, Psychic Power Bomb, etc., boring enemy and location namesWhat's really weird is the inconsistency. Like you'll actually get alien names for some enemies, then Tanabe goes on a vacation or something and you end up seeing fucking Snow Wolves and Snow Roaches
>>729804973
>>729804374It probably made more sense when they were going for a time travel angle, so it's have been Samus completing the loop.
>>729805116I replayed 1 on Hard pretty recently. Nothing gave me any pause before Phazon Mines, and half of that was just Wave Troopers being inherently slow to fight compared to other types. Omega Pirate and Metroid Prime were wars of attrition as well. I'll probably replay 2 and 3 sometime this year, on Hard and Hypermode respectively.
>>729798252Bait used to be believable.
>>729798572How can you "shit on it for views" when shitting on it is the mainstream position?
>>729805219>two sentences mindbroke /v/
>>729798572>>729798252Nah it's very boring with Doom tier enemies without the atmosphere
>>729798252>>729798572Subhuman tendie
>>729801656Magmoor is supposed to be a painful place. It's a fucking lava cave.
>>729803435>everyone is the same personKill yourself.
>>729803846Yet you melt down at any post you perceive to be made by them.
>>729804621>Most Metroid games do a good job of masking their linearity while Prime 4 just doesn't even hide it.What's with this mentality that it should hide it?
>>729804920 The usual stuff-“spiritual successor to Super,” “nonlinear despite the map,” and “back to form.” Meanwhile you’ve got colored doors requiring very specific routes, cutscene interruptions every 15 minutes, and an upgrade loop so rigid you could mistake it for a Ubisoft game. They sold it on nostalgia and people bought the box, not the game.
>>729809243but enough about Prime 1
>>729799217>so far this is the best prime gameyou'll be singing a different tune after the mines
>>729803527>Prime 4 levels = I>Prime 1 levels = JPeople call these games metroidvanias?
>>729804713Fusion and Dread
>>729808846Straight lines are boring in a game focused on backtracking and exploration.
Mines are overhatedThey're just the combat gauntlet region. Prime 1 had that with its own mines
>>729809243When was any of this applied to Prime 4? None of it applies to Prime as a subseries. I could maybe see someone trying to put a marketing spin on Dread with these but Prime 4?
>>729809948B-but it's different!
>>729809243>Meanwhile you’ve got colored doors requiring very specific routes>15 minutes, and an upgrade loop so rigiddo people really think this doesn't apply to Metroid Prime 1? I sweat to fucking god. I have no idea how the Metroid fanbase manage to trick itself into thinking every game in the franchise wasn't linear.
>>729809941game's shouldn't be focused on backtracking, dipshit
>>729809948The area is pretty decent, except Armstrong seems to go down more often than other troopers.
>>729810115>Armstrong seems to go down more often than other troopers.we call those Barracks Bunnies
>>729810042They're completely detached from reality. Prime 4 is the only game in the series that replaces colored doors with a regular door when opened once.
>>729798252>>hardest prime gamehardest to not fall asleep while playing>>best prime gameLOL
>>729798252pic unrelated, the hardest and best prime game was echoes.
So far the only boss that gave me trouble was the giant ball thing because rewiring my brain to free aim with just the sticks is hard and he had some stupid attacks. The rest so far have been easy and feel almost incomplete, like aside from the plant one it feels like they're missing out on a gimmick to use during the fights. The only difficulty I'm having is with the controls because everything is mapped ass backwards. Mouse mode is shit cause of the tiny fucking Joycons making precise aiming for the input reading enemies impossible, but I've settled on sticks in Handheld mode with Gyro turned on to compliment it and it works well enough. The Grapple pull does NOT work well with the sticks though especially against Psy-Bot shields. Volt Forge is also a dogshit area in general.
>>729804450Mogenar alone is tougher than the entirety of MP1 combined
>>729810856I almost died to every boss, and once to the psy bots in volt forge.
So,>get off bike>ball>powerbomb>get on bike>move to the next crystalThis game is aggressively wasting my time! I hated Batmobile in Arkham Knight, but after playing it to completion I admit it was fine and even fun at times. But the bike in MP4 is a piece of shit with no redeeming qualities and it has a whole desert with tiberium crystals desperately trying to justify its existence. Fuck this shit.
>>729804810More disappointing are that there are no other race tracks or challenges for you to go on.
>>729811302It's strange. When I did the tutorial section for the bike I thought there would be more things like it throughout the game.
>>729804638>>Portrayal of Samus is strange, she acts weird around people. I never took Samus to be a silent protagonist, she just never interacts with people. She has spoken in many games (Super, Fusion, Dread, Other M)Because Metroid fans screamed at Nintendo for making her talk in one game missing the point entirely about why she doesn't usually talk. Genuine media illiteracy
>>729810856I like the revised free aim option when using sticks.
>>729811418To be fair, almost any voice and dialogue would be better to give to Samus than what she got in Other M, or at least the English version of it. Supposedly, Japanese is significantly better.
>>729811393Mario Kart track bait, it will be DLC in MKW
>>729811018Psybots do fuckloads of damage. Almost feels like they weren't even tested properly.
>>729804723>Teleports away, leaving her comrades to die and Sylux to presumably continue his tirade across the galaxy so she can plant a tree that harbors the memories of an otherwise unremarkable, self-destructive civilization on a destitute planetwhoa, samus...
>>729811679At this point in the story she took down a sentient planet with her evil doppelganger. How can she not handle a butthurt ex Fed even powered up a bit?
>>729805529Mainstream gets the views retard use your brain
I'll be honest, all the things people complain about with this game, I don't even notice.People complain about needing to escort mission the feds but like they hardly ever went down for me. And when they do, its like two seconds to heal them.The desert too. Driving across it doesnt bother me because it takes all of about a minute to cross from one side to another. Or the writing. People hate nora saying "sarge look shes doing morph ball" and the fakeout death scenes in the mines but idk I just didn't feel very strongly about these at all.Maybe I just enjoy being in this cohesive universe. Because the things that actually annoy me the most are things like how the green energy crystals are actually just called green energy crystals in the games universe. We couldn't think up a name like phazon? Or miles telling you to stop by a save station. We couldn't have him call it a maintenance station or something? He might as well be chiming in to tell me the battery in my joycon is low. This is the kind of stuff that takes me out of my immersion and makes the world feel less cohesive.
>>729809545>Haplogroup I = Scandinavians>Haplogroup J = Jews and shitskins
I don't hate it but it really does just feel like a cheap copy, the AliExpress version of the old games. It pays lip service and reuses a lot of old sound effects and music, but the animations and sound effects just feel cheap. Just look at the 5fps running animation for when she gets out of Morph Ball. It doesn't even sound metallic either when you hit things, it sounds like it's made of cardboard. Also that main menu theme is just dogshit. Oh and the 2017 Nintendo Japanese idea of an open world game desert area with waste of time collectibles, and the bad writing and voice acting worse than Prime 3. Myles is probably the least offensive character honestly as at least his VA puts a bit of effort in. Yeah that theory about the original MP4 being scrapped for BOTW trend chasing feels especially true. OOOOHHHH and the fucking broken strafe dodging, I dunno how many fucking times she dodges TOWARD the enemy only to get hit and scream like a fucking banshee.
>>729811878The fact that Flare Pool's volcano HAS A FUCKING NAME but is still called Flare Pool was also lazy as fuck. Hell just name the areas generic bullshit like "Forest of Memory" for Fury Green or " Genome Research Facility" for Ice Belt would have helped. Volt Forge is cool and Great Mines is suitably generic for a 7th gen FPS level.
>>729799132Honestly, as someone who played Prime 2 on the GC just this year, I'd say Prime 4 is difficult in a different way than Prime 2. Prime 2 has shit like Boost Guardian and Spider Guardian which are a fucking nightmare to fight in the GC version of the game. Prime 4 is difficult in the sense that enemies will rape your health if you let them. Like no enemies in the entire original Prime trilogy, save maybe the beam troopers in the first game, rip through your health like that.
>>729811778She can't even deal with a pack of wolves anymore.Samus barely seems more capable than a seasoned federation soldier in this game.
>>729812301I like the sound of morphball hitting things
>>729812929the amount of damage enemies do feels straight out of Fusion, I wonder if it's contextual, like the viola suit isn't as tough as varia. I recall space pirates doing very little damage during that section.
>>729799217Best Prime game coming through
>>729812851It's so fucking stupid that the main plot device is juts called "green energy"
>>729814213Is that a Prime 4 map?
>>729814308The giant pylon should give it away
The cutscene when going from sol valley to fury green where samus is just casually running through a corridor looks so dumb.
>>729814213Prime 4 does have a few good maps
>>729814284It's actually really clever, because the Lamorn language is undeciphered, whatever the green energy is is simply referred to as its descriptor.
>>729814527>Why the fuck won't the Speed Booster kick in?!
>tendies dont care about metroid>a bad metroid game comes out>they are obliged to defend it because its made by nintendoanyways the best prime game is prime 2
>>729814527I had a good chuckle when I saw that loading animation for the first time in Volt Forge. Just Samus going for a casual jog through some alien architecture.
>>729814527Who cares, how often do you want to return to the very start of Fury Green? that hallways is next to the cannon that puts you at base.
>>729814764It's weird how the standards for Nintendo fanboy devotion has increased. I remember back when a Nintendo fan could say Other M and Federation Forces weren't great, and it wasn't controversial at all.
>>729814764Super > AM2R = Fusion > Prime 2 > Prime 4 = Prime 1 > Metroid 1 > Prime Hunters > Dread > Prime 3 > Samus Returns > Prime Pinball = Zero Mission > Federation Force > Metroid 2 = Other M
>>729812301>Yeah that theory about the original MP4 being scrapped for BOTW trend chasing feels especially true.it literally is true based on the interview that happened with Retro Studios
>>729814842and sadly it never happens again
>>729798252Hopefully they'll have retro make a real prime 4 despite this game sucking ass. But it probably couldn't have been any better thanks to the cursed development.
>>729814945and now the ootsnoys claim Other M is actually good, makes you think.
>>729814140It's probably just a corollary of them having basically only two enemy types between ravagers and the bots. They need to be threats the whole game, so they come across as overtuned in the early parts of it.
>>729815079>and now the ootsnoys claim Other M is actually good, makes you think.
>>729800805Prime 2 and 3 are better than 1. This is a fact. 1 is beloved more because it was new at the time.
>>729815130>he doesn't know
>>729815190Prime 3 isn't better than 1 and I'm one of Prime 3's biggest defenders.
I just got the bike in the volt forge and I am already bored out of my mind
>>729815324it only gets worse from here buddy
>>729815324this anon >>729815454 is lying, you go to ice belt next and it's one of the best areas in the series.
>>729815324This anon >>729815538 is not lying, Ice Path is fantastic, but this anon>>729815454 is kinda right because Flare Pool sucks until the boss, then Great Mine right after is either good or bad depending on how much you like fighting Grievers.
bargain bin game
>This is what Prime 4 fans actually consider to be one of the best areas in Metroid history
>>729817250this map makes it look way less linear than it actually is
>>729817348Prime 1's "non-linearity"
>>729800136>Did you guys know boost guardian was actually nerfed in later versions of the game? Emperor Ing too.Yes.Boost Guardian hits WAY harder compounded with your measly amount of energy tanks in GC Hard Mode and Emperor Ing was way too tanky as well - the only reasonable way to deal damage at a quick pace was to launch Sonic Boom at it but even then you could've only consistently done 3 max if you didn't use them right when he summoned those flying things so that you'd deal damage, kill them all in one fell swoop, and recharge your ammo.
>>729817250>Get to Ice Belt>Fed is actually pretty quiet allowing you to soak in the ambience>Linear but there's a nice atmosphere with the power out (Ignoring they did the same thing in volt forge)>Cool environmental storytelling that hints at some upcoming body horror>Turn the power on>Just recolored Grievers, recolored Grievers everywhere, they didn't even do anything cool with the fucked up autopsy machine
>he still thinks there will be a prime 5Hopefully none of you do.
>>729804793>spider guardiansI genuinely don't know how people had a problem with that when I cleared it on the first attempt. If anything, I was underwhelmed that it "killed itself" at the end and I got a reward for it.
>>729817992For how much money Nintendo blew on this game they're going to feel the need to reuse the engine at least once.They're probably going to drop Prime from the title at this point though, it no longer has prestige.
>>729818196Just a shame the Switch is close to EOL, this is one of the best looking games on the platform.
>>729818196>They're probably going to drop Prime from the title at this point thoughFUCKING GOOD. They should've in the first place. Prime concluded with 3.
>>729818579>Etrian Odyssey>when the only game that takes place in Etria is the first, although that's more of the localization's fault when the title's effectively "Labyrinth of the World Tree"If it's following the formula, Prime will probably stick regardless.
I wish the core movement was smoother and boss battles were more about outspacing attacks instead of boost dodging or jumping over things, which gets old. Old prime bosses seemed to make more use of the 3D space in combat.
>>729798252>>best prime gameAre you high?
>>729814213>WTF WHY IS THE STARTING AREA THE EASIEST SAVE ME NIGGERMAN
It's fine but not as good as 1 or 2. I like it more than 3.
>>729817992>he still thinks there won't be
>>729798252>Why did it get so low rating?Because it sucks.
>>729822602Later areas are worse.
>>729822602My point was that if that is all you've played, and you're calling this the best Prime game, you're just retarded. Not that the later areas are designed well either.
>>729799132>>729803768I can tell you two are Americans because you lack reading comprehension. Carry on.
the combat gauntlets worked in prime 1 and 3 because they were one off sections to break up the pacethe problem is when the whole game feels like a linear combat gauntlet up to the mines (when it's the same but now you have shitty companion AI that goes down every 20 seconds)it doesn't help that immediately after the mines you have to go around the desert in circles for one of the npcs to spawn randomly for powerups and it's annoying as hell when you're going for 100% items
>>729813407it's post Super so she's probably still got depression from the baby like in Other M and Fusion
