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Why was the FGO ending so controversial and unsatisfying?
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get a job and have sex now
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Wow I can't believe a story that has to constantly add new plot devices and characters to market more gullible idiots into spending money on a slot machine to collect more jpgs with bloated word salad special effects to clear raid content faster and top a leader board has a completely unsatisfying ending (because there's no marketing that)
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>>729805408
/Thread
Sage
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>>729801927
>no Jesus Christ summon in the end
It was meant to flop
Nasu is a hack
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>>729801927
Lmao the story is not over you dumbasses
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>>729801927
Because it's another "give up everything to become a wageslave salaryman" ending
Nips can't write endings for shit
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>>729801927
>>729809074
>it's another "give up everything to become a wageslave salaryman" ending
Qrd?
What was Marisbury's plan in the end?
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>>729808727
All of FGO's events were deleted and Nasu is retiring from fate, all that's left is filler events set before the games end.
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It was one of the least satisfying endings possible. Right up there with an "it was just a dream" endings. Still not as bad as Oshi no Ko's ending, but that's an impossible bar.
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>>729809763
He made magic chatGPT to make a plan for him that created a LB since the beginning to delete everything but earth and keep humanity retarded so humans could live in peace, by beating it we deleted all of the games events so it ends with Guda and Mashu meeting out in the normal world for the first time.
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>>729801927
What happened?
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>>729809074
So all isekais really end that way though?
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>>729810054
>Over 10 years of story and character meetings erased making everything feel pointless
Oof, that sucks. My deepest condolences to whoever was invested on FGO's lore.
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>>729810054
>just delete literally everything we've worked for, all the relationships and milestones
>just to go back to normal boring Earth
Holy shit, no wonder people are pissed. At least in isekai stories where the hero goes home you can at least take solace that the world saved by the hero is better for it.
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>>729810174
I was a day 1 JP player but dropped the fuck out of it when OC fikker hell started, it was clear they were just dragging their feet till Nasu walks in and says fuck it drop a ending.
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>>729805408
But enough about 2hu
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They literally just couldve said
>You won
>XB2ending.png
And people would've clapped and called it a masterpiece
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Reminder that Nasu is a bitter old man chasing Hollywood recognition. Anyone who read the Tsukihime "remake" can tell you he's not the same guy anymore.
This is even worse though. This is basically a fuck you to fans.
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>>729810592
FGO fans deserve less
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And of course they made a new Artoria to celebrate the end, lmao.
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Japs just seem to be really bad at ending things. They never plan ahead and just think things as "arcs to milk money out of a fanbase" and string one from another
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>>729801927
buyers remorse
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>>729810826
Lame.
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>>729801927
unless the game ending deletes all my astolfo porn idgaf
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>>729810485
>But enough about 2hu
But touhous aren't SaaS thoughbeit? And there's no gambling.
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>>729810812
Abby fans deserved to marry their wife
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>>729811551
my retard daughter heating up daddy's special arm candy before I beat mommy to a pulp again
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>>729810148
A lot of the older ones do. I haven't read many current Isekai, most of them will never actually have an ending, but young authors these days have a lot less interest in going back home to wageslave. It's generally older and bitterer authors that write about the younger generation coming home and ending their fantasy. Then there's the weird middle ground like Shield Hero or Slime, where the MC basically becomes a god and travels the multiverse with their harem, but also creates a clone of themselves to go back to Earth and wageslave.
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>>729810148
no what usually happens they go back and the main waifu goes with them or some shit.
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>>729810054
Reminds me of the Dragon Quest movie where it all turns out to be a VR game.
>lol back to work wagie.
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>FGO ends
>ending so shit the entire /vg/ general for it went full cope over a new years announcement stream
>nothing happens
>they start melting down
>melts down so hard it spills into pretty much every general on /vg/
one of the greatest moments in gaming history
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>>729809074
>stay in shitty place where you have to shit into a bucket
>infections kill people
>the food sucks
>no AC
>no vidya
>no shitposting on /v/
you wouldn't even survive there, don't give me that
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The ending should have been babymaking sex with mama
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>>729811896
That one at least
>it was ALWAYS fake
hurts less. In this case, it was real, some bullshit just rewrote the universe to make things go back to boring and lame. Which is worse.
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>>729801927
So how did the Japanese take it? I figure they're such massive corporate cocksuckers that they clapped.
They clapped when they became salarymen.
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>>729812117
it was literally always a fake, doomed universe trying to replace the real thing. Things don't "go back to normal" they just go back to the entire human race not being obliterated and it being a regular, still hyper fucked in a few hundred years, TM timeline
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>>729812235
Vocal and not happy.
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>>729801927
>controversial
Yeah it sucked ass but nips loved it and TM only cares about them so it doesn't matter either way
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>>729801927
mfw fgo fans will excuse and defend it because Nasu wrote it
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>>729812498
>nips loved it
Did they?
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>>729811104
It was the last reveal of the New Year stream to boot.
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>>729801927
wagieslop
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>>729813037
What the FUCK was Horikoshi thinking?
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>>729810948
Endings are difficult by default and it only gets tougher as serialization drags on.
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>>729801927
Troons are mentally ill and self-destructive. It's their only source of satisfaction.
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>>729813262
41% can't be wrong!
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>>729812498
>>729812707
thats bullshit but i belive it, nips have notoriously shit taste
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>>729813115
He truly sacrificed everything like a true hero. Or rather, this is the fate that a true hero has to look forward to.
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He really was the Sonny Boy, huh?
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>>729809074
>>729809763
>>729813037
They're a high ranking mage in the clocktower in the end you retards, that's anything but being a wagie
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>>729801927
>she won
>this is her ending
>she finally cucked (you) to the point of lifetime of wageslavery
you dont hate mash enough
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>>729812284
>>729813927
the people spamming these threads are the usual seanigs from fgoa, they are never going to seriously engage with the story
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>>729810592
How is the Tsukihime remake different from the original?
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Is it actually ending or is this just a status quo reset so the next part can start on a clean slate?
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>>729801927
Three not a single jap piece of media with a good ending. They can't do it.
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>>729814092
If /fgoalter/ got into the clock tower, what would be their magus Grand Order?
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>>729814369
Definitely not the former because FGO is a gacha and still going strong so the chances of EoS are very low.
Could be the latter, nobody knows.
For now there'll probably be some new events with pre-ending stories.
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>>729814465
the one that deals with increasing shareholder profits
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>>729814365
Arc route is basically just the manga with nero replaced (there's a bit of a fakeout with him being suggested dead but heavy implication that he's too important to write off early on), Ciel route is full retard with berserker arc turning into a not-sefar, and there's precedence that the far sides will be entirely different with a new DAA pulling the strings rather than an exploration into the Tohno family (and satsuki actually being involved)
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>>729801927
Well?
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>>729801927
I know next to nothing about fgo but why do people hate this main girl? In fact why do people seem to always hate the main girl of things?
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>>729815070
>Everyone is dead, forgotten and/or no longer exists
>Except for Fujimaru and Mash
>Who are no longer the same people anyway so by all intents and purposes they might as well be dead too
I love it.
10/10.
Absolutely kino(ko) story.
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>All those Anons saying it was just a fakeout ending and we'd get the real ending on NYE

lmao get fucked
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>>729814801
>will be
Isn't the full game out? Or they cut it into more than one?
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>>729815242
She is the plain girl that jumps into scenes with other more popular characters to keep the status quo/cockblock.
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>>729809909
>Nasu is retiring from /fate
What's he going to work on now? Melty dlc that takes a billion years? Mahoyo or Mahoyo 2? Are we going to finally get a work that connects all of his other works into a coherent world instead of disconnected moody-horny stories with shared schizobabble?
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>>729815287
good thread, fun thread
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>>729815468
Red garden for the next 10 years then death by Japanese cold while playing the current souls game.
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>>729815242
She's boring, has no personality beyond "I love the MC", and for the longest time had no character development. Yet the game shills her a lot and keeps cockblocking the MC with any other girl because of her. She's overhated for sure, but obviously anyone who likes any of the other girls won't care for her.
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>>729814801
>no Tohno arc
Sad.
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>>729815435
the current release is just the near side, but it's a few hours longer than the original VN. Red Garden is supposedly going to be the other 3-4 routes, depending on whether the maids are still separate ones or not.
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>>729815523
>melty dlc
It's ogre bros. It's been a joy to be Nasu enjoyers/haters with you all.
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>>729814801
Jesus, I hope that Far Side rumor is false. Talk about ruining the best routes in the game for more shounen shit.
>>729801927
Isn't there going to be a Part 3 to the story? I thought this was the end of Part 2?
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>>729815435
Remake is 2 out of 5 routes, they confirmed they are finishing a deleted route for a total of 6 but spread the other 4 into another VN currently called red garden.
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>>729811737
That happens in shield hero and slime? Weird.

>>729815269
So it's like that one JoJo part ending? Lmao
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>>729810054
Wait, was Barghest deleted?
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>>729815535
To be fair, coming from a series of written works with very willful girls that come with a ton of (problematic) personality and then making the main girl of your main project for the next decade and a half that finally explains maybe 50% of the leftover mysteries from your other work a less aggressive choose-me girl is certainly a choice. She is a bit based sometimes though, but rarely.
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>>729815682
>Isn't there going to be a Part 3 to the story?
Unknown. They haven't said anything yet.

>I thought this was the end of Part 2?
I mean it is, yeah.
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>>729815540
its probably moreso going to be Akiha route with minimal changes, combined maid route and epilogue replaced with a "true" route that is effectively Satsuki's while not actually delivering, since that seems to be Nasu's thing for unsaveable girls
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>>729815697
>remake too 7+ years to make and is only 2 routes
>somehow expects to remake Tsukihime's other half of the game into a 4 route game and not take 2 decades
Type-Moon is retarded? Or just Nasu?
>>729815723
Part 6's ending at least went to the natural conclusion of all the themes presented by Jojo, not exactly sure this one does.
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I've been reading Tsukihime (OG) and enjoying it, I was meaning to check out fate but should I just stick with Tsukihime and not bother instead? Also I chose Ciel as my first route and it was neat. I refuse to do the bidding of some manifestation of the earth or whatever
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Do the people who are saying "bro all the memories we made and relationships we built" not realise that 99% of those relationships were with servants so if they are imprinted onto the throne those servants would still remember them regardless of the ending.
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>>729815884
Fate/Stay Night is worth it solely for Hollow Ataraxia, it's the best thing Nasu has ever written.
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>>729815748
Barghest's timeline was one of magic ChatGPT's creations (like, at one point it reads out of the prompts that were typed into it to shit out the Lostbelts) so yeah, she never even existed.
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>>729815884
FSN and HA are great
Extra and CCC are decent
Zero is chuunikino
you can skip the rest, FGO is like 60% dogshit, apo is complete dogshit, strange/fake and case files are alright but expect you to know about the other two
everything else is complete garbage
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>>729815972
So this is all a bridge to meet your waifu in the real world or what
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>>729815972
the world was running on a copy of the root, its throne and summoning system were also fabricated from the real thing
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>>729809074
>E33 Verso ending
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>>729816040
Bruh
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>>729815972
Did you even read the ending? The servants from the FGO universe are deleted from the throne in the prime universe. Some of them literally don't even exist anymore.
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>>729815791
>Nasu's thing for unsaveable girls
Based, Ilya route when
>Satsuki
Eh, not my favorite. Tsukihime needs better girlfailures.
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>>729815242
It's because of people wanting their favorite girls and Mash will actively do shit like pic related when you're having a moment with them.
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>>729809074
The obsession with the salaryman aspect (which isn't a thing) is so fucking funny to me because there's almost no mention of working at all in the actual game.

The ending involves a world reset to make everything back to normal (something you have been fighting with the intention to do for years), and then shows a normal world and the protagonists living in it. They're shown in casual clothes. There is no mention of work with the sole exception of the main protag having previously mentioned they wouldn't mind owning a bakery (which isn't even salaryman work).

The ending is very much "you saved the world and returned everything to as it should be", which was literally always the point, that some day this great journey would end and there would be a parting to accept, but any mention of normalcy causes insecure NEETs to go fuckass crazy and get upset because NO MOM I DONT WANT TO GET A JOB

All that said I do agree the memory loss aspect is dumb as shit.
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>>729816185
Other parts of the franchise already contradict this by including aspects that originated in FGO though.
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>>729815242
>>729815535
She doesnt even love the mc, just acting out as cockblock and joykiller purely for the love of it, litteraly just moe-fied fridge
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>>729816458
Get a fucking clue retard
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>>729816527
Its not the same ones from FGO. The game spells it out for you, esl-kun.
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>>729816535
You must be a pretty big coper if you don't think she was the Nasu designated main love interest.
Mashu won, she might not have her memories, but it's destined that she and the MC will get together. Gaia, Solomon, Angry Dog, and God himself dictated it to be so.
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>>729816458
I want castoria to lead me around in public on a leash and then fuck me infront of other fairies.
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>>729816458
Yeah it's almost these are spammed on the board to push a certain narrative of misinformation against Japanese games or something right? haha...
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>>729812053
Look at this retard and laugh. Even in our world medieval history wasn't as bad as you're claiming, add magic to the mix and you're absolutely golden
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>>729816649
>designated main love interest
she is, im not denying it
>Mashu won
And thats a bad thing
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>>729810054
what
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>>729815748
How come the LB6 girls are more popular than the LB7 girls?
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>>729817081
Before the game even started we were in a fake timeline replacing the real ones created by a magic AI to keep humanity dumb and alone in the universe so stuff like aliens and the Types don't rape our collective asses and humanity would be too stupid to get out of it thus keeping them safe.
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Phantom Joke is such a banger bros...
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>>729816185
But muh Jannu Negra...
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>>729817382
female writer
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>>729812053
Most isekais are borderline utopias, atleast for powerful and magical people, which the protagonists usually are.
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>>729817393
So basically they correctly figured it was impossible to fit the gacha plot into anything other than the gacha and decided to just make it not happen at all?
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>>729817393
So then why did chatGPT need the other lostbelts?
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>>729817382
LB6 lives in peoples' heads for several reasons, but 7's problem was that Camazotz and ORT stole the show.
Kuku still best girl
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>>729801927
You know what is even more hilariously fucked about the whole thing is that the whole LB situation was going in and genociding entire worlds worth of people, but justifying it in saving the "proper" humanity. And then it turned out the "proper" humanity wasn't actually real anyway and that gets deleted as well. What the actual fuck is wrong with japs that they seem to go out of their way to pick the absolute shittiest endings imaginable? You could be a lobotomized chimp, go to tvtropes, and pick an ending cliche at random and probably have it turn out better than the majority of endings japs come up with.
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>>729817393
Gil's vision of the future in Extra contradicts that. Humanity does make into the stars, and no shitty alien or Type stops us.
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>>729815972
Destroying the original Lostbelt reverted every single event that happened because of it.
Nothing you did throughout FGO's plot happened, that's the whole point.

>if they are imprinted onto
Never happened.
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>>729817534
Yes
Frankly its for the best that they did things this way
The gacha plot had you killing the greatest threats of the world practically every other scenario by the time LBs rolled around. It was an endless escalation and you could never back down from that without scrapping everything and reseting to zero
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>>729816185
Read it yourself. They explicitly say Chaldea's records are being destroyed and contracts are being dissolved starting with the earliest. This means they're returning to the Throne instead of our recording system. They never say anything about The Throne. Stop trying to push misinformation.
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>>729813651
>Sonny Boy
kek fuck I wish you didn't remind me of that slop and the NTR ending
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>>729817715
Can we revert back to before Nasu thought of this whole "pruning timelines" gimmick and beat him until he drops it?
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>>729815884
>729816045
>Extra and CCC are decent
Extra is actually great too. That Anon's handicapped.
The battle system is ass, but the lore, setting and characters (even the actual background NPC) are awesome.
If you don't want to deal with the RPS battle system wait for the remake though. It's going to come out this year (if it's not delayed again).
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>>729801927
Everyone loved it on release. Then schizos came up with crack theories about a secret true ending and got pissy around NY because it didn't come true. Just Amerisharts who always need their faggy happy end.
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>>729816135
>he world was running on a copy of the root
How do you just "make a copy" of the Root? Isn't that beyond even True Magic?
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>>729817936
Pretty sure that's exactly what this shitty ending does bro.
The gachafags kinda deserve it honestly.
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>>729818082
>Everyone loved it on release.
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>>729818117
It is True Magic though right? It just kept getting co-opted by every antagonist under the sun.
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Literally what did people expect?
The whole point was about restoring the world, did people expect something else to happen or what?
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>>729818295
they asked chatGPT "how to do true magic"
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>>729817776
>>729816135
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>>729818295
There are only 5 True Magics and this isn't any of them.
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>>729801927
fate grand order finally ended? Thank fuck. Now Nasu can focus on Red Garden
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>>729818383
What does each true magic do?
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>>729815764
>Unknown. They haven't said anything yet.
There is a Foreigner focused plotline that they confirmed a few months ago is happening. We just don't know how it will be handled (pre or post-finale). The finale even had hints about it.
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So the entire game was a lost belt? I actually predicted this back in LB2 lol
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>>729817776
>They explicitly say Chaldea's records are being destroyed and contracts are being dissolved starting with the earliest.
Because neither the creation of Chaldeas nor the contracts ever happened.
FGO from beginning to end happens in a fake world called Lostbelt Zero.
Everything that happened inside or because of it is nulled and fully erased at the end when it's destroyed.
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>>729815748
technically no, daybit is now the only person that remembers everything that happened in the lostbelts so nothing got deleted and technically all can live in the throne of heroes
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>>729810054
So it's basically the last Rebuild movie but with Fate instead of Evangelion?
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>>729816135
>>729818738
Servants from other pruned timelines exist. Demiya and Kiritsugu are proof. Don't be stupid.
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>>729818383
Wouldn't it be the 1st because the 1st is all about the creation of ether?
If not, I'm willing to bet there'd be some sort of copout of "it isn't True Magic because the layering of an alternate world over the real world is simply a type of Reality Marble on par with the World" or something
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>>729818768
>daybit is now the only person that remembers everything
How?
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>>729818996
He's some fucked up out-of-universe alien creature that has compartmented memory
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>>729818947
Neither of those are exclusive to LB0. That's like saying Arthur is from FGO's throne because he happens to show up there.
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this pretty much proves every skipchad was right, gachas have no story worth reading
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>>729818768
>remembers everything
He literally remembers 5 minutes of each day.
Daybit.
A bit of every day.
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>>729801927
nothing mattered with all promises broken. all the while the game keeps beating the reader over the head by saying "... and that's a good thing!"
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>>729818738
They physically happened and the actual throne and any out-of-universe entity can still recognise them. They have just been undone. Anything that exists outside of time will still have ramifications if they carried over. Space Ishtar still remembers Master after the universe reset, canonically.
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>>729818703
1st Magic: you wish for something to exist, and it does. It doesn't cost energy. You don't have to create it "manually." You ask the Root for something to be there and it is. That simple.

2nd Magic: In-universe retcon powers. You can tamper with some subset of the Root's records, which manifests as things like time travel, dimension hopping, teleportation, and declaring things (not) canon

3rd Magic: Force the soul to exist without a body in perpetuity without the world sucking it into the afterlife or destroying it. You are immortal, invincible, and have infinity mana.

4th Magic: You erase yourself from existence while still existing like in the ending to Madoka.

5th Magic: Isekai-style Steal powers. Consume, destroy, steal, or swap any arbitrary thing (even concepts), again "for free" and without needing to do it "manually." Essentially the reverse of the 1st Magic.
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>>729819225
It's true unfortunately. You can only hope they spend the insane profits on something worth playing.
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>>729819403
>Type Moon
>Something worth playing
You will get yet another musou game or fighting game because for some stupid reason that's all they ever do
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Lizposters lost and that's all that matters
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>>729819225
Path to Nowhere has a good story, but that's because all the events are self-contained and there's no grand epic overarching narrative.

FGO really tried to build itself up as Marvel Infinity Stones/End Game and just failed spectactularly.
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I remember spending so much time shitposting in /alter/ just to piss people off, I bet they're having a huge meltdown but honestly FGO simply does not interest me anymore and they deserved this shit ending, they probably won't have the balls but it would be so fucking funny if the game EOS'ed for real
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>>729819196
It doesn't have to be exclusive. The Throne is actively beyond all of spacetime constantly recording, even from pruned timelines and lostbelts like Samurai Remnant(stated by nasu).
You're either completely ignorant to what the throne is and what actually happened or you're purposefully spreading misinformation.
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>>729819502
the next game is a slay the spire clone actually
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>>729818973
1st lets you make anything, it was just used for something gay and lame like ether instead of something based like infinity holy grails
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>>729819545
Liz never loses. Even if it seems like Liz fails, she's only failing upwards to bigger and better things.
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>>729819627
>The Throne is actively beyond all of spacetime constantly recording, even from pruned timelines and lostbelts like Samurai Remnant(stated by nasu).
Lorelet.. the throne doesn't exist in Tsukihime. Its specifically an invention in the humanity world lines.
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>>729819874
Do you not understand what beyond all of spacetime means bwo?
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>>729819778
it's a good thing this is fate and not tsukihime.
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>>729819225
girls frontline 1 is the only gacha with a main story id consider good
i'd fucking kill for a remake as just a campaign in the style of reverse collapse
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>dropped the game after Solomon
Was it right call all along after all these years?
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>>729801927
The what?
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>>729819960
Why did Nasu say heroic spirits cannot be summoned in Tsukihime, bro? Go on, tell the class what you think.
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>>729819874
>Literally lying
It's not possible to summon from the Throne in the Tsukihime timeline but it absolutely does exist. Are you stupid??
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>>729820018
The right call was never playing it all. That's more correcting an initial mistake.
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>>729820018
You missed on Atlantis and LB6 but yeah if you care about the overall story it was a good decision
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>>729801927
Ntr infinite tsukiyomi bad ending
Nasu does it again
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>>729801927
>gacha
>>>/vg/
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>>729820028
the ending of FGO (Fate/Grand Order)
(for now)
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I've been a Skipchad since fuyuki and I'm glad I didn't fall for FGO shills' lies
>>729820018
>>729820018
>Japanese shadman
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>>729819345
Can't someone just use the 1st to make something to no diff ort?
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>>729819995
meant for >>729819874
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I dont know whats canon and whats not anymore but doesnt even matter. What matter is that this is premise and the framing of an ending they went for in this first place, its a fucking slap in the face
>nooooooo, everyone is still there and gudao is totally still a wizard
ok, where s everyone then?
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>>729819345
How come powers like this are only classified as equivalent to Belarophon? These all seem like EX-ranked NPs.
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>>729820018
absolutely. it's a better ending than part 2 by miles.
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>>729801927
Fantasy is over.

Grow up, salaryman.
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>>729820254
Sure thing, just pull out the First Magic that (you) definitely have in (your) specific magic crest, which you definitely do have, RIGHT?
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>>729811551
>using a spoon to cook pancakes
Imagine trying to explain those burnt spoons to the cops
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>>729820254
Probably not.
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Nasufaggots are gonna eat shit for the rest of his worthless career.
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>>729810148
japanese yes
>>729809074
even fcking detective mangas all end up with this

>IM TIRED OF CURRENT LIVE AS DETECTIVE WITH 156 IQ
>IT'S TIME TO WORK IN TRASH COMPANY AS SALARYMAN!! YAYAYYAYAYAY!!
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>>729820431
yeah because i'm a CHAD
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>>729820476
If the Root makes it, you absolutely could. ORT is not above what should be omnipotent and if it's making whatever you want, you can just make a button that permanently defeats ORT across all timelines.
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Fate already has the best possible and the most beautiful ending conceivable, thank you very much.
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>>729801927
>why is gambling controversial and unsatisfying??????
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>the MC should've stayed and lived in the world with an extinct humanity because... MY WAIFUS!!!
this wouldn't be a problem if it were just smaller problems after solomon, could've had an actual happy ending with all your servants
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I just did full refund. Fuck japan.
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>>729820618
Mordred should have been the main heroine of Apocrypha just so the ending could be Mordred crashing Arturia's perfect ending with Shirou in Avalon. It would be the funniest shit ever. t. Merlin.
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>>729820675
>the MC should've stayed and lived in the world with an extinct humanity because
Literally no one's saying this but yourself Retardbro.
Remove the memory wipe from the current ending and that'll be enough of an improvement to make it feel not as pointless as it feels right now.
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>>729818383
"true magic" is an in universe term for what are essentially loopholes in the system of the age of man. outside the age of man Magic Just Works(tm), which is why relics from the age of gods are so useful. magecraft itself is a subapplication of the first True Magic, but even so any True Magic is strictly inferior to the actual Magic of the age of gods.
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>>729820639
>.t ratatouille rat who doesn't have FAT STACKS to his worthless pennyless broke ass nigga ass
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>>729820859
>Literally no one's saying this
Oh boy you've missed all the people who want to repopulate with their servants.
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>>729820618
This Shirou had to have been the Fate route Shirou. ULBW and HF Shirou wouldn't have been allowed into Avalon, Gaia would not let a two timer into paradise.
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>>729811463
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>>729820675
>this wouldn't be a problem if it were just smaller problems after solomon, could've had an actual happy ending with all your servants
Shounen always demands higher and higher stakes. Scaling down never, ever makes a happier audience
The only way this ever works is if you do massive timeskips or protagonist changes like jojo
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>>729820964
Erm but then why does Aoko beat Medea in a fight??
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>>729813927
That is true, but do ranking magi get neetbux from the association? I'm pretty sure you don't get shit, maybe access to certain materials others don't get to see.
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>>729801927
>GO BE A SALARY MAN AND SUFFER NO HAREM FOR YOU
Golly I wonder why people hate it
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>>729821424
Isn't this also the ending for MHA?
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>>729821424
People are delusional if they think they were going to get any kind of ending like that. Nasu doesn't do harems. The MC might get a bunch of girls liking him, but he has the MC stick to one girl, and only that one girl.
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>>729821617
Usually you get to CHOOSE
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Ojisan, I need more money!
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>>729821617
You are the delusional one, Nasu been doing harem for 11 years already
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>>729821702
bout to turn her into a bakery and put buns in the oven
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>>729821617
Nasu wrote a harem into Extella
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>>729821702
canon
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>>729821083
I know I can't repopulate the planet with Astolfo, but it won't stop me from trying.
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>>729817382
Because LB6 was banking on you feeling pity and wanting to save the three knights and Morgan.
LB7 was actually carried by cool characters and not guilt tripping you with sob stories.
I could NOT sympathize with Melusine at all, dumb bitch.
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>>729821702
It's nice that I can call this character fan fiction drivel now. Male MC is true MC, not this meme.
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>>729815242
Pushed to you a way too much while also trying to sell you the sexiest girl next. It will always generate a clash.
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>>729821617
Of the top of my head
>Arc and Ciel harem end
>saber and rin harem end
>sakura and rider harem end
>all the bitches in extella.
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>>729821694
Yeah but fucking choose out of HOW many?
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>>729821694
>choose
In Grand Order? Another gacha game where you're given two choices that are the same thing 99% of the time? The game is 10 years too long to believe you could have a meaningful sway on the plot that wasn't just RED TEXT OOOOO
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>>729821617
>Nasu doesn't do harems
how much does the Ciel normal/Rin Normal ends lean towards that
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Also if you're concerned about picking girls, you had like 5 1/2 valentine events to shake hands and show appreciation.
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>Get the one universe outcome that doesn't have the eventual threat of ORT hanging over them
I'm not seeing the issue
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>>729821963
Daybit is cool?
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>>729810054
I am glad I dropped after I got Jeanne d'Arc, I love Fate but that game felt so shit
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>>729822161
Bro, ORT’s still there. Unless shit is real wacky, he’s a universal constant.
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>>729815748
Yeah Barghest, Morgan, Melusine all say their farewell to mc in the last raids battles. Mc doesn't interact with that many either.
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>>729822263
Tez, Camazotz, ORT raid, and dinosaurs were unexpectedly pretty cool.
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>>729820119
>You missed on Atlantis and LB6
Neither of which are that good.
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>>729822316
>ORT
Enuma Elisha gg lol
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So what are fgo fags gonna do now?
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If I had it my way, I'd retire to a quiet life with my ninja housewife.
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>>729821995
What the fuck are you talking about, male MC is literally not canon
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>>729822161
ORTs' extermination order is when Gaia herself dies, and living lifeforms on her continue to live. It is a jannie that is supposed to clean up a celestial corpse, and Gaia isn't going to be dying anytime soon in the Nasuverse.
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>>729822517
Have one less gacha to play.
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>>729820964
How did Yumina find the first true magic, anyway? Acid trip so hard on witch shrooms that she saw the Root?
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>>729818082
>>729818240
I'm kind of sad they wasted ORT on the gacha, and it ended up a bit underwhelming.
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Huh? They ended this cashcow? Why?
I don't give a shit about it but it did give us endless sluts to enjoy for so long, it's a bit wierd to see that ending.
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>>729801927
Because it’s ultimately a bad end.
Guda goes back to being an ordinary person with no connection to magecraft so there’s no way he’s going to the Clocktower like some people say, all that hard training he did with Servants is gone so bro lost all his gains, and the whole guilt from genociding seven Lostbelts meant nothing since his memory of the people he had to sacrifice is gone.
It’s even worse for Mash.
Since it was reset it means Mash is doomed to a short lifespan again, not to mention she didn’t have a person who cared for her like Roman in this timeline, and all that development she had in her game expanding character arc is completely gone.
This Mash you meet at the ending would be completely different from our Mash.
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>>729822553
Did you miss the ending where the canon male MC meets up with Mash or what?

You lost yuritranny.
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>>729822854
FGO2 or nasu wants to do some retarded reset that will take 10 years to come out
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>>729822854
They ended the Part 2.
We don't know for a fact it's THE end, but more than likely it isn't exactly because it still generates obscene amounts of money.
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>>729819345
Chaldea is just spamming 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 +5 all concurrently and at the same time or something like that?
There should be a 6 all of the above.
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>>729822854
Story ended.
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>>729815070
You're actually retarded. 90% of /v/ and /vg/ and the entire playerbase saw THIS video. I don't what shithole you came from where you saw the gudao version first and thought it was real.
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>>729813651
>>729817852
QRD?
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>>729823065
You are legitimately retarded.
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>>729820606
Counter-point: ORT adapts and then uses its own 1st magic to counter-rape you until you pull out a bigger 1st magic.
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>>729813927
>can't do magic
>high ranking mage
???
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>>729801927
It is consistent with the quality of its game
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>no special endings for each servant
Soulless. If you're going to pander to self-insertniggers at least do it properly instead of half-assing it.
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>>729813927
lol no the protagonist becomes a baker
(you) don't even remember magic because all memories are erased
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>>729822854
>Why?
This fucking game already looked extremely low effort and aged the day it came out.
I have zero fucking idea how it managed to exist and make money like 5 years into chinks releasing gachas that look like AAA ubisoft games. Apparently typemoon fandom has absolutely no standards for this to be possible, and even then, this shit that looks like 00s amateur flash game became too embarrassing even for its scummy creators.
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>>729823342
Does magic even exist in this new world? If they are going for a clean sweep to fix the timeline, might as well get rid of the source of all the problems.
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>>729823409
>I have zero fucking idea how it managed to exist and make money like 5 years into chinks releasing gachas that look like AAA ubisoft games.
Unironically the story
Even the shittier LB stories are better written than chink gachas
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>>729823491
It does, it basically restores it to the Proper Human History timeline which is FS/N and Melloi Case Files.
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>>729819225
I like Arknights lore honestly, there's a lot of cool stuff in it and a lot of neat events that cover stuff all over the world that you as the doctor don't get to see normally, no matter what genre you like, there's probably a thing that you find engaging
But I only got into it initially because of the Dungeon Meshi collab so it might just be my taste being shit, your mileage may vary
>mfw finding out about Collapsals in Arknights as a guy that likes alien spooky shit
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>>729822583
ORT is like a super-alien though? It's from beyond the Oort Cloud so it's clearly not really of the solar system, and the way it passively rewrites reality to suit itself in slumber implies more so it's kind of a parasite that's incidentally filled out Gaia's janitor application rather than because of the thing it has going on with all the other Types.
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>save the entire world
>lose everything as the cost
>every power that made you special
>every bit of training that you did
>every friend you made
>even your memories, all gone
>experience absolutely no growth as a human
>your life trajectory entirely unchanged because you have no memories through which to influence you, help you develop, and become a better and more successful version of yourself
>the worst girl in the entire cast might see you at some point because you're still not miserable enough
Did they re-read the My Hero Academia ending and decide it wasn't bad enough? Holy shit
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>>729821421
Mages in /fate are rich because they're mages or something, it's never really questioned. Even Waver was well-off before the he got tendies from El-Melloi.
>>729823207
To be fair, there's only two of them and everyone that tries to unlock magic outside of being a Clocktower bootlicker basically gets assassins sent after them.
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>>729821103
I think that's what was implied yeah, since he was the idealized version of the character that became a de facto hero later in life
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>>729822856
Except Nasu went WELL ACKTUALLY to say any soul based chances were kept, so that’s his half assed explanation for why Mashed Potato is even still alive to meet Fujimaru in the ending
Yes it’s stupid
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>>729822632
she believed in fairy tale monsters so hard that gaia agreed they exist
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>>729823409
>how it managed to exist
I don't play this game but yeah I wonder why haha
how curious
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>>729805408
TRVKE
FGO is not canon.
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>>729823863
No, it was danganronpa v3 that inspired Nasu.
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>>729823987
it really isn't since it never happened if daybit happens to die
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>>729823181
>"It's nice that I can call this character fan fiction drivel now. Male MC is true MC, not this meme. Did you miss the ending where the canon male MC meets up with Mash or what? You lost yuritranny."

>gets called out with proof

>"You are legitimately retarded."
Third world monkey brain never fails to amaze me. Unironically, why did he respond like that after the embarrassment? There is 0 coherent thought and logic. It's like an actual 60iq lizard brain trying to mimic a human response. I legitimately don't get it and it's fascinating.

Well, I guess these are the "people" saying things like "yuritranny" unironically.
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>>729823342
A baker right before covid happens
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>>729823893
>Mages in /fate are rich because they're mages or something
Some are some aren't. Some mages spend their fortunes on research/magic itself like Rin, some mages are simply bordering on broke and must budget harshly like Aoko/Alice were in Mahoyo
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>>729823409
Chinks can't write for shit, unironically.
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>>729823863
>>every power that made you special
Guda never had any powers to begin with. It's been stated multiple times that he is a shitter with barely any magic and his only redeeming quality is that he has the power of friendship by his side.
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>>729824061
To be fair to Aoko, iirc someone related to her (I want to say Touko?) keeps making debts and shit using her name, so it isn’t entirely her fault she’s poor
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>>729815070
Guda has no memories and everything that happened was erased at a conceptual level. So why the fuck do they frame this as some significant meeting when they're fucking strangers? What, does Mash has some primal instinct to start following amnesiac Guda and cockblock her at whenever possible now?
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>>729824039
shartyfags are mentally ill, they always are, especially those who say shit like this unironically, don't even bother, they will seethe forever about shit like this no matter what arguments you have.
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>They're doing VN style routes
>Everything we've experienced so far is the equivalent of the Fate route
>Now that it has an ending, the plot resets only you now canon fail one of the singularities or something, moving us into a new route altogether.
How would that make you feel?
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>>729823230
FGO doesn't pander to self-inserters particularly hard for the genre. There is no marriage system. Even the Valentines scenes are more often just used as a character development thing and not actually typically about them being romantic with you.

>but like 10 of them have dialogue saying they love Master
Yeah, like Kiyohime where the point of her character is that she's a yandere or Raikou who is an over-doting mother.

And no, before you miss my point, I am not saying the game lacks pandering to self-inserts entirely. It definitely has some. But it was never written in any way to lead the player to assume they were building a relationship with one specific servant. The opposite, in fact.
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>>729824039
I wasn't who you were responding too, just calling you a retard for declaring Gudako as a canon MC picked by everyone when they are both canon since they are whoever is playing them as per Nasu but go ahead and get defensive and screech when someone disagrees with your headcanon like all yurifags do over the fact both MC exist.
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>>729824156
Yeah
Though Touko hardly struck me as being well off even with that. She buys the odd artifact here and there in KnK but iirc she lives pretty cheaply as well even down to her choice in smokes
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>>729824284
>Mash
>following
>Guda and cockblock her at whenever possible
That's probably a universal constant too.
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>>729824284
It's just nasu being a hack. "the soul remembers even if you don't" and shit
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>>729820329
They probably can't show all the characters because they're too incompetent to code variations for which gacha girls you got.
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I don't give a shit, nothing except FSN, F/Z, and FHA is canon.
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>>729824284
They're Fated to be together.
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>>729823863
I'm not saying western games or stories are always better by any means, but it's so weird to me in the difference in cultures. Even guys that settle down for mundane lives after the tale like Samwise in LOTR, your character in some BG2 endings, even shit like Alice in Wonderland, the protagonists all have some kind of fundamental lesson they carry and hold to them to make them better as people, a lot of times they have more adventures and stories we as the reader don't witness, their lives might be mundane, yet they're miraculous in their own unique way because they carry their history with them. Why is forgetting about the journey seemingly so common now in Japanese stories? Is it a culture thing, a divide I'll never be able to understand? Those endings legit seem worse than "it was all a dream" and that's saying something because I fucking hate those so much it's unreal
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>>729824284
It's just an anime trope. No memories of each other but by pure coincidence (one could call it Fate), they encounter each other again
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Why would they end FGO? Isn't it a huge cash cow for the company?
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>>729824473
anime invented the concept of fated lovers?
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>>729824531
It was supposed to end 4 years ago but they bribed the main writer to prolong the end and now it's finally time to pull the plug
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>>729824531
>>729822950
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>>729824284
>you're cursed to suffer her presence your whole life
I'm going to do it
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>>729824473
No, I'm fine with this having a coincidental meeting. But the visibly expressed shock when it's just two strangers who happened to glance at each other, in addition to the dramatic framing, makes absolutely zero sense in the context of the story especially considering the two were never once romantically involved whether in dreams, the erased reality, or the real reality. Nasu is starting to approach r07 levels of fucking shitty hackery



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