Are AMD GPUs really that bad?
>>729804115no, they are the better option for price to performance unless you want a top end card then you have no choice but to go with nvidia.
>>729804115works on my machine
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1p5mu2g/amd_reiterates_fsr_redstone_is_only_for_radeon_rx/Nvidia DLSS4, available even on RTX 20, POODNA2/3 abandoned already and AYYMDEADPOORFAGS SEETHING
For generating AI porn? Kinda. For gaming? Only if you don't care about raytracing.
>>729804115it doesn't really matter anyway since in a few months they too will be unobtainable to all but AI datacenters
asking this during the only gen where they are winning due to reasonable pricing and performance of the 9070xt is liek ????just check out a review bro, anyways works on my machine
>>729804115I would not buy that one, only a 9070xt. Nothing else makes sense
>>729804115It's memes from retards coping that they got ripped off by Nvidia Complete goy mentality.
>>729804340Fake pixels
>>729804115the only reason ppl defaulted to nvidia brand teaming is because their most expensive GPU's are always better than AMD's most expensive GPU's. But in reality, AMD was always the clearer choice up until dx12, but if you pay for dx12 games... you're kinda fucked regardless and I wish you would stop living.
>>729804115I have that card, it's great.
>>729804115>Are AMD GPUs really that bad?let's put it this way, if Nvidia push the price of GPUs through the roof people will still buy Nvidia GPUs rather than go AMD
>>729804115They're wonderful for driver customization on desktop space. Attrocious for ai compatibility, and servicable at gaming
>>729804115No, and I've used both.There are tradeoffs and benefits for both sides you have to factor in to your own GPU decisionmaking. AMD is readily cheaper, punches above their pricepoint in raster compared to their green counterpart pricepoints, and is steadily creeping to parity on gaytracing finally, but nJudea's DLSS looks better than FSR and their cards are better at local AIslop applications. Both of them try to claim to be the more stable one, but they tend to trade that aspect back and forth depending on drivers. If you are interested in a gaymd card, try to get a 9070XT at MSRP while you still can. Prices are going to come up 10-20% at a minimum going into 2026, and they already have at a good amount of places. The 7000 series isn't bad either, but it can't run FSR 4/Redstone without some extra effort. If you're swapping off of a green card, make sure to use Display Driver Uninstaller(DDU) to make your life easier.
They have been the better option for years if you only do gaming. Any kind of production work, or AI generation, you should get an nvidia card. AMD cards can do this work, but not nearly as fast.The meme about MUH DRIVER SUPPORT has been outdated for over a decade and people just parrot it because they buy nvidia and just have brand loyalty.
Buying an AMD GPU is like buying a 4:3 60hz monitor. It'll play games but won't be able to run all the new tech.
>>729804115Yes, you save about $50 in order for 30% less overall performance compared to the same-bracket RTX card, with little to no real support after release. You could try to run a new game that comes out a few months later only to have your PC lock up because your AMD GPU doesn't have any driver updates to actually work with.
>>729804115i had a few issues with the 5700xt nitro i owned but it turns out it was a conflict with windows 10 power settings - since then i've owned a 6750xt nitro and currently have a 7900xtx nitro and they both worked very well, no issues at all on win10 and eventually i went to win11 - i actually find win11 to be much more stable than 10 with the amd gear.- i'll probably ride my 7900xtx for a generation or two since the 9070xt didn't seem like a crazy upgrade since i don't use FSR in most games or ray tracing and only play 1440p
>>729806758lol vibecoded driversnvidia has killed pascal support on linux while amd's drivers now support 15 year old cards
>>729806378What new tech?native will always look better than any upscaling and framegen is a meme, might as well use streaming
>>729804353It's not 2022 anymore. You can generate your AI sloppa with AMD now.
>>729808173yeah but it's not a good as nvidia or grok
I've used AMD GPUs for the longest time and had my share of problems. Since around 2010 or so.Over the years drivers got better but there would always be this thing where you had to wait for months after release for those drivers to be stable. And there were things AMD did that I greatly disliked (like end W8.1 support really early). I bought an nvidia GPU, the 4070 Super.Never again. I thought the experience was better because for years, they've been the pricier but "worth it" option. That raytracing would be oh so amazing. Bro they have this DLSS thing that is perfect and Nvidia Reflex is the ultimate.I ended up with something fairly unstable, I had to debloat my drivers and remove telemetry on them. Not only did I have to do it on Windows, now Nvidia was taking a shit and installing spyware on my system. The overlay was dogshit. I needed MSI afterburner for anything, and at some point even that bugged out on me.Performance with raytracing still took a huge hit anyways, so I just forgot about it. Only game where I felt raytracing was worth a shit was Indiana Jones, mainly because it looks like dogshit without it, they clearly didn't bother with how the game looked without RT. I didn't even do much AI anything worth a shit. The only good thing about this: no coil whine.I went back to AMD with the 9070xt and it just... fucking works. I missed a working overlay. I missed just changing two settings and there you go, it's undervolted and running the way it needs to be. I missed not having to go to fucking techpowerup to download a tool to download drivers without installing garbage. I missed knowing the fucking GPU metrics just with a press of a fucking button (including btw, the GPU hotspot temperature). Seeing where nvidia is gone, I never want to see nvidia hardware again if possible. I was considering selling my 4070 super for a measly 200 bucks to someone desperate but why would I, seeing the current situation
>>729804115As far as I know it only sucks ass if you want to gen AI video/images because that is exclusively done with NVIDIA cards. Apparently there's work arounds for AMD but you're making an already finnicky system even more finnicky. Idk if this has changed
>>729808920desu I don't know why these companies are paying for AI when they can just use grok for free
>>729809095AMD works fine/okay but it will probably always lag behind just a bit when it comes to the most recent stuff - there's even super user friendly programs like AMUSE that AMD endorses which lets you gen stuff locally and takes all the work out of getting models installed since you just pick the one you want from a list and hit download - it has it's limits but AMD has come a long way - i'd say for casual users it's 100% fine>>729806758i play tons of new and old games and haven't had any issues in the last few years with any game simply opening and running - it's true they might not have some game specific drivers day 1 but i've yet to find any new releases that simply wouldn't work or didn't run properly because of that
>>729804115I can tell you the bracket is useless but otherwise I'm pretty content with mine.That said if you care about DLSS and ray tracing or are a major AIfag, yeah probably not worth it. I am neither of those so happy times for me.
RDNA4 is decent but AMD software is always a gamble.
>>729804115They make great mid-tier GPUs. So long as you are good with mid-tier performance then they're a fine choice.
My experience with RDNA4 is the following:On Windows, better than previous AMD which is to say, it just works.On linux, worse than previous AMD which is to say, it just works, but not better than Windows.
>>729804115They can't generate AI slop so they are useless.
>>729804115no they are good
Poor poor Nvindia jeets....they never recovered
>>729804115Only if you wanna do jeetAI image generation. Image generating is for GTX cards only.
>>729812061AMD has top tier software... Unfortunately only if you use Linux and the software isn't made by AMD Lmao.
>>729804353AMD has raytracing now.
>>729804115Not anymoret. 9070 XT
>>7298186109070 XT can only do raytracing at 1080p. At 1440p you can do it but need to use FSR. At 4k it's impossible get stable 60fps while raytracing
>>729812061>AMD software is always a gamble.meanwhile nvidia softwre is guaranteed shit.
>5080 performance for half the price
Nvidia is stuttery as hell. Pay attention to the frametime graph.
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Take note of the 1% lows on Nvidia. Dogshit hardware or dogshit software who knows but AMD performs better on Windows AND Linux.
Never buy RTX.
>>729819392>b-b-but ray tracing!!!say no more
>>729818850>At 4k it's impossible get stable 60fps while raytracingThat goes for Nvidia, too. Ray tracing at native res is fucking brutal.
>>729819532>native reslol FSR isn't native res.Even with FSR4 in performance mode you cannot do raytracing on 4K with a 9070 XT.Meanwhile on a 5080 it's no problem.
>>729819461>>729819392>1440p with upscalingIt's not 2015 anymore.
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Even on new years day advanced marketing devices has an elite team of posters to defend their master and spread lies.
>>729819798You fucking lost
>>729819946Nvindian's do it for free I fear....
>>7298196905080 can't do 60fps native at 1440p.9070xt isn't even in the same price bracket, you should be comparing to the 5070ti.
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>>729818850>At 1440p you can do it but need to use FSR.You should not be doing raytracing without FSR or DLSS in the first place. Like, the visual gains versus performance loss simply makes it the most practical way to handle it.
Do Nvindian's really pay double the money for this? The cucks of hardware
>tfw jumping from a 1050ti 4GB to a 9060XT 16GB
>>729820298What goal post moving? Not even the 5090 does native 4k 60fps PT in Cyberpunk. Nvidia can't do it. Nobody can. 9070xt sits squarely in the same performance bracket as the 5070ti. The 5070ti is only slightly better at RT. It's not enough to push it over any reasonable breakpoints with regards to resolution, frame rate or graphics settings.I will say though, AMD drivers are currently fucked with regards to PT in that game so by default, Nvidia wins since it won't crash and has Ray Reconstruction to clean up the blurry shit mess it makes on characters faces. We'll have to see how Redstone handles it once it's updated though.
>buy 7900 xt>a few days later amd announces that fsr4 won't be compatible with itfuck
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS NVINDIA DRIVERS CERY GOOD AMD BAD SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS REDEEM PLEASE REDEEM
I'm thinking of trying linux gaming. Is bazzite the best for a retard or should I use mint? I have a 5070 ti btw.
>>729820783I feel for you, Anon. But you shouldn't be surprised since AMD did warn about this. 9070 was the first graphics card from them to come with the kind of hardware that's been standard on Nvidia cards since the 20 series.
>>729820856>AMD unboxed
>>729821016>5070tiDon't bother, just stick with Windows. Nvidia's Linux drivers are complete dogshit. So unless something changes in the near future you'll probably get worse performance overall.
>>729820783I think you can use fsr4 on it, but performance hit is higher than on a 9060. Steam deck can use fsr4.
>>729821016>>729821161I use linux with a 5070ti, it works fine. I get over 100FPS on Cyberpunk at 1440 with basically max settings + raytracing.
>>729821020truenvidia rtx cards having tensor cores makes a big difference between nvidia and amd gpus
>>729821383Have you tried comparing it to Windows? From everything I hear you're better off just not doing Linux yet until better drivers are out.
>>729821383Most retarded larp yet
>Better raster performance than their equivelent Nvidia card>AI gimmicks kept to a minimum>Not locked into using WindowsThey're good. You're an idiot if you buy anything other than a 9070XT right now.
>>729804115I bought a 7900xt a month or two after release. Worked fine for modern goyslop but when I tried to play boomer games it kept crashing like prince of Persia WW. I went for nvidia again cause its mostly.plug and play, everyone is on it so more guides. AMD you gotta tinker with it to get shit to work sometimes, can be the wild wild west.
>>729819365Vram bottleneck. At least we know why Nvidia have been so stingy for so long now.
>>729821832>Playing old games on modern windowsInstall Linux retard.
>>7298041155070ti or bust, please don’t regret missing them
>>729821450AMD has their Matrix cores or whatever now, but they don't get enough support. AI memes should be plenty fast on paper but you can't really make them do what Nvidoes unless they release better tools.
>>729821894they have the same 16gb of vram. if anything the 5070ti should perform better because its gddr7 instead of gddr6. i
>>729822247dont get why nvidia doesnt fix their broken shit*
>>729821728What if I just bought a 9060 XT>bought a 2060 in 2019 for $350>6 years later buy a 9060XT for $390, doubles the performance with the same power draw for surprisingly not that much more of a price
The main bebefit of nvidia is built in encoding for workloads that need it.Encoding with built in native encoders is 50x faster.This doesn't apply to gaming.The very top cards are also nvidia, but once you get into the bracket most gamers buy amd is usually the better price to performance ratio.
>>729820631>just checked the price of my 9060XT 16GB>it costs just as much as my actual prebuilt that i bought the vidyacard withdear fucking godand to think i bought my prebuilt two months ago before shit hit the fan
>>729821016If you care about raytracing, then stick to Windows. This applies to AMD, too.
Nothing is worth being stuck with FSR on modern games.
>>729822989>lookup what FSR is>FSR works by rendering the game at a lower resolution than the one you’ve set and then upscaling the image to make it look sharperwho the FUCK thought that was a good idea
>>7298223709060XT is the best 1080p card you can buy for older systems., so go for it. The only other alternative is the 5060ti 16gb for $50+ more, but you'll have to put up with performance losses owed to reduced pcie lanes.
>>729823246That's literally what DLSS does as well but with image learning AI to help reconstruct it. And now FSR4 does the same thing.
>>729823420Then I both hate both DLSS and FSRwhy does antialiasing tech only get worse over time
>>729823246Sounds very South Asian.
>>729822010Good morning saarnix
>>729823540Performance + getting to do specific bullshit like dithering and then slapping TAA on top to be able to smear pixels together to hide it. DLSS and FSR aren't even supposed to "be" antialiasing tech, they only become that by effect.
>>729822989Nvidia drones toggle DLSS upscaling at 1080p with their poorfag 5050's and genuinenely think the games look better. I never have to toggle on upscaling or framegen at 1440p and I own a 5070ti. Only compelling use case for DLSS I've seen is that it overrides shitty anti-alliasing solutions, but that's DLAA, which is only nominally rolled under the umbrella of DLSS. Raytracing perf is better on team green, no doubt, but path tracing is today what RTX was with the 2000 series, a totaly unusable performance annihilating meme. If AMD can deliver the same raster and close to the same raytracing performance for cheaper, then it's a solid buy in my opinion
>>729818830Is it loud?
>>729823339>1080pGrim.
>>729824024Can't speak for other models, but I have a Hellhound and it's whisper quiet
>>729804115about the same level as Nvidia now (Nvidia came down, not amd went up)
>>729822247Nvidia fills up the vram with ai dogshit though. You're not getting the full 16gb.
>>729822446AMD is getting more hardware support recently which is cool. ZLUDA is janky as fuck so hopefully it'll be a thing of the past.
>>729824028x1200p gang
>>729823649Now remove Android users.
>>729821728the 9070XT is worse at raster on average than the 5070ti, same with the 9060XT vs 5060ti"muh gayymd better at muh raster" is both a cope and a literal lie
>>729824028What's the point of going above 1080p? Genuinely asking.
>>729824136AMD cards use more VRAM than their NVIDIA counterparts for the same scene, as proven by Spiderman 2 at 4K where the 9070XT dumpsters performance due to running out of VRAM while the 5070ti doesn't
>>729804115They will always have good price/performance ratios and driver issues. I hear we're talking only crashing a couple times a week as opposed to a couple times per gaming session nowadays but I won't ever fuck with them again.
>>729824113AMD has always been a generation or two behind, but with the 9000 series I have them pegged at only half a generation behind. 9070xt is a 5070ti in terms of rasterization and 4070ti tier in terms of Raytracing. Not bad.
>>729824330Depends on your screen size, but generally anti-aliasing looks a lot less shit at 1440p because of the resolution bump.
>>729804115i've had more frequent and more severe driver issues in my times of nvidia ownership than in amd ownershipbut i'll pay the $50-over-equivalent-amd nvidia tax for the way it cleans up my shitty mic for voice chatting
>>729823969>Only compelling use case for DLSS I've seen is that it overrides shitty anti-alliasing solutions, but that's DLAAIt's pretty much all I use DLSS for, given most modern games force TAA which is a blurfest.
>>729824272>multiple posts proving to the contrary>YEAH WELL AMD IS JUST SHITTIER ON AVERAGE MAN
