Are AMD GPUs really that bad?
>>729804115no, they are the better option for price to performance unless you want a top end card then you have no choice but to go with nvidia.
>>729804115works on my machine
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1p5mu2g/amd_reiterates_fsr_redstone_is_only_for_radeon_rx/Nvidia DLSS4, available even on RTX 20, POODNA2/3 abandoned already and AYYMDEADPOORFAGS SEETHING
For generating AI porn? Kinda. For gaming? Only if you don't care about raytracing.
>>729804115it doesn't really matter anyway since in a few months they too will be unobtainable to all but AI datacenters
asking this during the only gen where they are winning due to reasonable pricing and performance of the 9070xt is liek ????just check out a review bro, anyways works on my machine
>>729804115I would not buy that one, only a 9070xt. Nothing else makes sense
>>729804115It's memes from retards coping that they got ripped off by Nvidia Complete goy mentality.
>>729804340Fake pixels
>>729804115the only reason ppl defaulted to nvidia brand teaming is because their most expensive GPU's are always better than AMD's most expensive GPU's. But in reality, AMD was always the clearer choice up until dx12, but if you pay for dx12 games... you're kinda fucked regardless and I wish you would stop living.
>>729804115I have that card, it's great.
>>729804115>Are AMD GPUs really that bad?let's put it this way, if Nvidia push the price of GPUs through the roof people will still buy Nvidia GPUs rather than go AMD
>>729804115They're wonderful for driver customization on desktop space. Attrocious for ai compatibility, and servicable at gaming
>>729804115No, and I've used both.There are tradeoffs and benefits for both sides you have to factor in to your own GPU decisionmaking. AMD is readily cheaper, punches above their pricepoint in raster compared to their green counterpart pricepoints, and is steadily creeping to parity on gaytracing finally, but nJudea's DLSS looks better than FSR and their cards are better at local AIslop applications. Both of them try to claim to be the more stable one, but they tend to trade that aspect back and forth depending on drivers. If you are interested in a gaymd card, try to get a 9070XT at MSRP while you still can. Prices are going to come up 10-20% at a minimum going into 2026, and they already have at a good amount of places. The 7000 series isn't bad either, but it can't run FSR 4/Redstone without some extra effort. If you're swapping off of a green card, make sure to use Display Driver Uninstaller(DDU) to make your life easier.
They have been the better option for years if you only do gaming. Any kind of production work, or AI generation, you should get an nvidia card. AMD cards can do this work, but not nearly as fast.The meme about MUH DRIVER SUPPORT has been outdated for over a decade and people just parrot it because they buy nvidia and just have brand loyalty.
Buying an AMD GPU is like buying a 4:3 60hz monitor. It'll play games but won't be able to run all the new tech.
>>729804115Yes, you save about $50 in order for 30% less overall performance compared to the same-bracket RTX card, with little to no real support after release. You could try to run a new game that comes out a few months later only to have your PC lock up because your AMD GPU doesn't have any driver updates to actually work with.
>>729804115i had a few issues with the 5700xt nitro i owned but it turns out it was a conflict with windows 10 power settings - since then i've owned a 6750xt nitro and currently have a 7900xtx nitro and they both worked very well, no issues at all on win10 and eventually i went to win11 - i actually find win11 to be much more stable than 10 with the amd gear.- i'll probably ride my 7900xtx for a generation or two since the 9070xt didn't seem like a crazy upgrade since i don't use FSR in most games or ray tracing and only play 1440p
>>729806758lol vibecoded driversnvidia has killed pascal support on linux while amd's drivers now support 15 year old cards
>>729806378What new tech?native will always look better than any upscaling and framegen is a meme, might as well use streaming
>>729804353It's not 2022 anymore. You can generate your AI sloppa with AMD now.
>>729808173yeah but it's not a good as nvidia or grok
I've used AMD GPUs for the longest time and had my share of problems. Since around 2010 or so.Over the years drivers got better but there would always be this thing where you had to wait for months after release for those drivers to be stable. And there were things AMD did that I greatly disliked (like end W8.1 support really early). I bought an nvidia GPU, the 4070 Super.Never again. I thought the experience was better because for years, they've been the pricier but "worth it" option. That raytracing would be oh so amazing. Bro they have this DLSS thing that is perfect and Nvidia Reflex is the ultimate.I ended up with something fairly unstable, I had to debloat my drivers and remove telemetry on them. Not only did I have to do it on Windows, now Nvidia was taking a shit and installing spyware on my system. The overlay was dogshit. I needed MSI afterburner for anything, and at some point even that bugged out on me.Performance with raytracing still took a huge hit anyways, so I just forgot about it. Only game where I felt raytracing was worth a shit was Indiana Jones, mainly because it looks like dogshit without it, they clearly didn't bother with how the game looked without RT. I didn't even do much AI anything worth a shit. The only good thing about this: no coil whine.I went back to AMD with the 9070xt and it just... fucking works. I missed a working overlay. I missed just changing two settings and there you go, it's undervolted and running the way it needs to be. I missed not having to go to fucking techpowerup to download a tool to download drivers without installing garbage. I missed knowing the fucking GPU metrics just with a press of a fucking button (including btw, the GPU hotspot temperature). Seeing where nvidia is gone, I never want to see nvidia hardware again if possible. I was considering selling my 4070 super for a measly 200 bucks to someone desperate but why would I, seeing the current situation
>>729804115As far as I know it only sucks ass if you want to gen AI video/images because that is exclusively done with NVIDIA cards. Apparently there's work arounds for AMD but you're making an already finnicky system even more finnicky. Idk if this has changed
>>729808920desu I don't know why these companies are paying for AI when they can just use grok for free
>>729809095AMD works fine/okay but it will probably always lag behind just a bit when it comes to the most recent stuff - there's even super user friendly programs like AMUSE that AMD endorses which lets you gen stuff locally and takes all the work out of getting models installed since you just pick the one you want from a list and hit download - it has it's limits but AMD has come a long way - i'd say for casual users it's 100% fine>>729806758i play tons of new and old games and haven't had any issues in the last few years with any game simply opening and running - it's true they might not have some game specific drivers day 1 but i've yet to find any new releases that simply wouldn't work or didn't run properly because of that
>>729804115I can tell you the bracket is useless but otherwise I'm pretty content with mine.That said if you care about DLSS and ray tracing or are a major AIfag, yeah probably not worth it. I am neither of those so happy times for me.
RDNA4 is decent but AMD software is always a gamble.
>>729804115They make great mid-tier GPUs. So long as you are good with mid-tier performance then they're a fine choice.
My experience with RDNA4 is the following:On Windows, better than previous AMD which is to say, it just works.On linux, worse than previous AMD which is to say, it just works, but not better than Windows.
>>729804115They can't generate AI slop so they are useless.
>>729804115no they are good
Poor poor Nvindia jeets....they never recovered
>>729804115Only if you wanna do jeetAI image generation. Image generating is for GTX cards only.
>>729812061AMD has top tier software... Unfortunately only if you use Linux and the software isn't made by AMD Lmao.
>>729804353AMD has raytracing now.
>>729804115Not anymoret. 9070 XT
>>7298186109070 XT can only do raytracing at 1080p. At 1440p you can do it but need to use FSR. At 4k it's impossible get stable 60fps while raytracing
>>729812061>AMD software is always a gamble.meanwhile nvidia softwre is guaranteed shit.
>5080 performance for half the price
Nvidia is stuttery as hell. Pay attention to the frametime graph.
>>729819326
Take note of the 1% lows on Nvidia. Dogshit hardware or dogshit software who knows but AMD performs better on Windows AND Linux.
Never buy RTX.
>>729819392>b-b-but ray tracing!!!say no more
>>729818850>At 4k it's impossible get stable 60fps while raytracingThat goes for Nvidia, too. Ray tracing at native res is fucking brutal.
>>729819532>native reslol FSR isn't native res.Even with FSR4 in performance mode you cannot do raytracing on 4K with a 9070 XT.Meanwhile on a 5080 it's no problem.
>>729819461>>729819392>1440p with upscalingIt's not 2015 anymore.
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Even on new years day advanced marketing devices has an elite team of posters to defend their master and spread lies.
>>729819798You fucking lost
>>729819946Nvindian's do it for free I fear....
>>7298196905080 can't do 60fps native at 1440p.9070xt isn't even in the same price bracket, you should be comparing to the 5070ti.
>>729820147
>>729818850>At 1440p you can do it but need to use FSR.You should not be doing raytracing without FSR or DLSS in the first place. Like, the visual gains versus performance loss simply makes it the most practical way to handle it.
Do Nvindian's really pay double the money for this? The cucks of hardware
>tfw jumping from a 1050ti 4GB to a 9060XT 16GB
>>729820298What goal post moving? Not even the 5090 does native 4k 60fps PT in Cyberpunk. Nvidia can't do it. Nobody can. 9070xt sits squarely in the same performance bracket as the 5070ti. The 5070ti is only slightly better at RT. It's not enough to push it over any reasonable breakpoints with regards to resolution, frame rate or graphics settings.I will say though, AMD drivers are currently fucked with regards to PT in that game so by default, Nvidia wins since it won't crash and has Ray Reconstruction to clean up the blurry shit mess it makes on characters faces. We'll have to see how Redstone handles it once it's updated though.
>buy 7900 xt>a few days later amd announces that fsr4 won't be compatible with itfuck
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS NVINDIA DRIVERS CERY GOOD AMD BAD SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS REDEEM PLEASE REDEEM
I'm thinking of trying linux gaming. Is bazzite the best for a retard or should I use mint? I have a 5070 ti btw.
>>729820783I feel for you, Anon. But you shouldn't be surprised since AMD did warn about this. 9070 was the first graphics card from them to come with the kind of hardware that's been standard on Nvidia cards since the 20 series.
>>729820856>AMD unboxed
>>729821016>5070tiDon't bother, just stick with Windows. Nvidia's Linux drivers are complete dogshit. So unless something changes in the near future you'll probably get worse performance overall.
>>729820783I think you can use fsr4 on it, but performance hit is higher than on a 9060. Steam deck can use fsr4.
>>729821016>>729821161I use linux with a 5070ti, it works fine. I get over 100FPS on Cyberpunk at 1440 with basically max settings + raytracing.
>>729821020truenvidia rtx cards having tensor cores makes a big difference between nvidia and amd gpus
>>729821383Have you tried comparing it to Windows? From everything I hear you're better off just not doing Linux yet until better drivers are out.
>>729821383Most retarded larp yet
>Better raster performance than their equivelent Nvidia card>AI gimmicks kept to a minimum>Not locked into using WindowsThey're good. You're an idiot if you buy anything other than a 9070XT right now.
>>729804115I bought a 7900xt a month or two after release. Worked fine for modern goyslop but when I tried to play boomer games it kept crashing like prince of Persia WW. I went for nvidia again cause its mostly.plug and play, everyone is on it so more guides. AMD you gotta tinker with it to get shit to work sometimes, can be the wild wild west.
>>729819365Vram bottleneck. At least we know why Nvidia have been so stingy for so long now.
>>729821832>Playing old games on modern windowsInstall Linux retard.
>>7298041155070ti or bust, please don’t regret missing them
>>729821450AMD has their Matrix cores or whatever now, but they don't get enough support. AI memes should be plenty fast on paper but you can't really make them do what Nvidoes unless they release better tools.
>>729821894they have the same 16gb of vram. if anything the 5070ti should perform better because its gddr7 instead of gddr6. i
>>729822247dont get why nvidia doesnt fix their broken shit*
>>729821728What if I just bought a 9060 XT>bought a 2060 in 2019 for $350>6 years later buy a 9060XT for $390, doubles the performance with the same power draw for surprisingly not that much more of a price
The main bebefit of nvidia is built in encoding for workloads that need it.Encoding with built in native encoders is 50x faster.This doesn't apply to gaming.The very top cards are also nvidia, but once you get into the bracket most gamers buy amd is usually the better price to performance ratio.
>>729820631>just checked the price of my 9060XT 16GB>it costs just as much as my actual prebuilt that i bought the vidyacard withdear fucking godand to think i bought my prebuilt two months ago before shit hit the fan
>>729821016If you care about raytracing, then stick to Windows. This applies to AMD, too.
Nothing is worth being stuck with FSR on modern games.
>>729822989>lookup what FSR is>FSR works by rendering the game at a lower resolution than the one you’ve set and then upscaling the image to make it look sharperwho the FUCK thought that was a good idea
>>7298223709060XT is the best 1080p card you can buy for older systems., so go for it. The only other alternative is the 5060ti 16gb for $50+ more, but you'll have to put up with performance losses owed to reduced pcie lanes.
>>729823246That's literally what DLSS does as well but with image learning AI to help reconstruct it. And now FSR4 does the same thing.
>>729823420Then I both hate both DLSS and FSRwhy does antialiasing tech only get worse over time
>>729823246Sounds very South Asian.
>>729822010Good morning saarnix
>>729823540Performance + getting to do specific bullshit like dithering and then slapping TAA on top to be able to smear pixels together to hide it. DLSS and FSR aren't even supposed to "be" antialiasing tech, they only become that by effect.
>>729822989Nvidia drones toggle DLSS upscaling at 1080p with their poorfag 5050's and genuinenely think the games look better. I never have to toggle on upscaling or framegen at 1440p and I own a 5070ti. Only compelling use case for DLSS I've seen is that it overrides shitty anti-alliasing solutions, but that's DLAA, which is only nominally rolled under the umbrella of DLSS. Raytracing perf is better on team green, no doubt, but path tracing is today what RTX was with the 2000 series, a totaly unusable performance annihilating meme. If AMD can deliver the same raster and close to the same raytracing performance for cheaper, then it's a solid buy in my opinion
>>729818830Is it loud?
>>729823339>1080pGrim.
>>729824024Can't speak for other models, but I have a Hellhound and it's whisper quiet
>>729804115about the same level as Nvidia now (Nvidia came down, not amd went up)
>>729822247Nvidia fills up the vram with ai dogshit though. You're not getting the full 16gb.
>>729822446AMD is getting more hardware support recently which is cool. ZLUDA is janky as fuck so hopefully it'll be a thing of the past.
>>729824028x1200p gang
>>729823649Now remove Android users.
>>729821728the 9070XT is worse at raster on average than the 5070ti, same with the 9060XT vs 5060ti"muh gayymd better at muh raster" is both a cope and a literal lie
>>729824028What's the point of going above 1080p? Genuinely asking.
>>729824136AMD cards use more VRAM than their NVIDIA counterparts for the same scene, as proven by Spiderman 2 at 4K where the 9070XT dumpsters performance due to running out of VRAM while the 5070ti doesn't
>>729804115They will always have good price/performance ratios and driver issues. I hear we're talking only crashing a couple times a week as opposed to a couple times per gaming session nowadays but I won't ever fuck with them again.
>>729824113AMD has always been a generation or two behind, but with the 9000 series I have them pegged at only half a generation behind. 9070xt is a 5070ti in terms of rasterization and 4070ti tier in terms of Raytracing. Not bad.
>>729824330Depends on your screen size, but generally anti-aliasing looks a lot less shit at 1440p because of the resolution bump.
>>729804115i've had more frequent and more severe driver issues in my times of nvidia ownership than in amd ownershipbut i'll pay the $50-over-equivalent-amd nvidia tax for the way it cleans up my shitty mic for voice chatting
>>729823969>Only compelling use case for DLSS I've seen is that it overrides shitty anti-alliasing solutions, but that's DLAAIt's pretty much all I use DLSS for, given most modern games force TAA which is a blurfest.
>>729824272>multiple posts proving to the contrary>YEAH WELL AMD IS JUST SHITTIER ON AVERAGE MAN
>>729804115Only get an AMD GPU if you're going to be moving to Linux permanently. Otherwise, Nvidia is better.
>>729824583you're seeing a retarded shit posting shill who has been spamming his garbage on /pcbg/ for months now lying to you by cherry picking individual games, there's a reason he doesn't post averaged charts because AMD loses there unless you just are nicotroon, which is extremely likely
>>7298243301080p is well below the human limit of perception. With typical monitor size and distance you really need a 4k monitor to get a high enough pixel density.
>>729824740And how does it perform in rasterization on 1440p or 1080p
>>729824740>4kMeme chart. Post relative 1440p performance where the 9070xt mogs.
>>729824897TIL that "mogging" is when you perform worse than your competitor
>>729824740>paying 25% more for 6% more performance. No, I don't think I will.
>>729824993nice goalpost shift, glad you conceded that AMD is worse at raster
>>729824272>the 9070XT is worse at raster on average than the 5070tiThis is such a blatant lie, it has to be bait.
>>729804115You should be getting an AMD GPU because they’re better value at tiers that matter. 4090/5080/5090 are obviously better choices, though I would argue against them due to the failurerate and you DO NOT want a card failing within the next 5 years.
>>729808173>so much has changed just in 3-4 yearsFuck
>>729825351>I would argue against them due to the failurerate and you DO NOT want a card failing within the next 5 yearsThat shit is still unbelievable to watch. I can't believe the reputation of NVIDIA tanked so much during this fatal issue of the 16-pin.
>>729823339>9060XT is the best 1080p card I run everything on 2K fuck da police
>>72982504195% performance at 75% of the cost is better raster, dumbass, the frames are litterally cheaper. It's called price-to-performance, which is the only metric that matters outside the 5090 range. It's downright embarrassing you think 5% difference is worthy of gloating, that's litterally margin of error territory.
>>729804115They are good, even for AI workstations.For gaming, I even switched out to an Arc B580, and it's a barely worse experience than with a 3090.It's the games that need to catch up to the hardware now, and the new entries are almost all shit Europa Universalis V is the MVP is my eyes.
>>729804115The hardware is good for midrange, but AMD has always struggled with software.If you're just okay with Raster performance they're fine.
>>729825637>It's the games that need to catch up to the hardware nowthis anon speaks TRUTH
>>729825513By the time the 50 series rolled out they were fully aware but didn’t care. They were an AI company first and foremost and if your cards imploded while doing normal operations within TDP you could get fucked and just buy another one. At this point they could roll out GPU killer drivers and you’d still have half the thread defending them on /v/ and /g/, though the introduction of flags and extensive VPN blocks might prevent that.
I'm still raster gaming at 1080p and the 9060xt has suited me fine.
>>729804115For Linux gaming they're good. For Windows gaming they're okay. For RTX they're pretty terrible.
>>729826030>RTXmeant ray-tracing, ofc
about to upgrade my 1070 to 6700xt, thoughts?realistically i don't even need more power, i just want to but my 1070 in another PC. i will probably underclock/undervolt it anyway
>>729825605You're retarded and wrong when it comes to relative performance, but otherwhise correct. Roughly 11 out of 20 games run better on Nvidia cards, and the other 9 run better on the 9070xt, and this yields higher relative performance in favor of the 5070ti. Pretty poor showing from Nvidia in my opinion, or good showing from AMD if you're a glass half full kinda guy.
>>729805293This. New cards are only necessary for AAA games released after 2023. And why would you want to get near anything of that? Literally don't get it.
>>729826267I want to play Nioh 3
>>729826030Raytracing is finally good on AMD, as long as you aren't cranking up the number of beams (path tracing).
>>7298260946700xt in 2026 is not great
Vidya tech for the 2020s is so fucking GAYYYYYYY>No actual universal standard ala 1080p/60fps, 4k is a meme that nothing can run well, there are still 60fps capped games but 240fps monitors and a lot of games like Oblivion Remastered run into differenences in the hundreds of FPS depending on the area of the game>Add raytracing on top of that which looks exactly like baked lighting 99% of the time and is literally just another flash in the pan Nvidia feature like PhysX that will one day become a nightmare to get running when Nvidia inevitably drops it>Now the top level GPU on the market is downscaling in order to run at a good fps on that good 4k monitor>Games like Alan Wake 2 and Monster Hunter Wilds no existing computer can run but we're heading into a great shortage of PC parts to even make better components with let alone keep making more of the stuff that can barely run these games>Meanwhile Mirrors Edge produces mind boggling effects running on a transistor radio that a 50 series card can't replicate
>>729826267I want to play anno 117, path of exile 2, and borderlands 4. I'm a dad gamer.
>>729826691it's twice the performance of my current card and i don't play AAAslop. it will at least allow me to run some porn games with better graphicsmaybe i'll upgrade to 1440p later on
>>729826930You know, Raytracing is just baked lighting but baked in real time, right?
>>729827157yes and that's a retarded idea anon>let's take this expensive thing and do it 60-144 times a second instead of one time up front
>>729804115I bought pic related for under $600 in amazon, 20gb of VRAM for that price is so cash.
>>729827157Yeah and that's fucking retarded, why are we trading a mountain of performance for something that only has advantages in specific circumstances?
>>729824973>poorfag AMD wants to skew results
>>729817324>>729819365>>729819392>>729819409>>729819434>>729819461and more! this thread is infected. this anon posts the same shill over and over and it's because of /pol/, its butthurt because nvidia has invested in an R&D facility in isreal. may be a bot farm worker, paid shill, or lone schizo.>so many noobs fell for the bait, too. /retards/ all of us.
>>729817324729819365729819409729819434729819392729819798729820452729820856>b& on /g/>forced to slum it on veeSad nicotroon timeline
>>729827020true. I still have a 6600 non-xt and I still get by fine because I don't care for modern AAA either
>>729826957>I'm a dad gamer.No you're not, or else you'd be playing most of that shit on console.
>>729827328>>729827409Is it retarded because you guys don't have RTX cards?Because it seems pretty cool to me.Have you tried it?
>>729808124All the tech you can't run on AMD
>>729827782RIP Nvidia, it will go the same way as Intel if that is true.
>all these people buying overpriced Nvidia >still nobody buying AMD kek
>>729825317weird how testing performance proves it true then!>>729824973>>729824740
>>729827963I have an RTX card, juice ain't worth the squeeze
>>729828149good point, it will be interesting to see what the intel and nvidia thing works out to now that they are fondling each other businesswise. amd is in real danger of losing even more in both the GPU space and in the CPU arena with nvidia and intel working together.
>>729828564>I have an RTX card>RTX2060
>>729828315I bought a 9070 xt and it's amazingGlad im not a nvidia poopskin
>>729828315AMD will raise prices as well by the same amount minus 5%
So which actual card should one get?
>>7298273927900XT here>undervolt>deshroud with 3 120mm case fans>cap ingame FPS at silky smooth 72Quiet and cold while maxing everything at 1440pGenuinely do not see the point for anything more expensive than this.
>>729828795Your amazing GPU is half the power of my GPU
>>7298288069070XT, never touch RDNA3
>>729828806powercolorsapphireasrockasusxfxwhatever is cheapest, its usually asrock or powercolor.
>>729828858Your skin is the color of poop sadly....
>>729828914>the retarded ai bot has been programmed with the "you're brown" when losing script
>>729828996>Poop skin melty
>>729828806
>>729828806Sapphire nitro+ is top tier. Expensive though.
>>729828806XFX Swift is the cheapest here in Europe and the best for the price
>>729829095Whatever you do, don't buy the underclocked 24XX cards.
>>729829093>ai bot clearly running on AMD hardware
>>7298287863070 tiYeah idk man it sucks ballsOnce I get a 5070ti I'm just gonna fucking wish the raw power was going to anything but overcomplicating a solved problem
>>729829316Don't those models like nvidia hardware
>>729829417?
>>729829181>>729828806The Sapphire Nitro+ uses 12VHPWR. Do NOT buy it.https://videocardz.com/newz/sapphire-rx-9070-xt-nitro-hits-fifth-burned-power-cable-report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b3DrLXYt2g
>>729828806dont get anything with the 12volt connector (sapphire nitro+ and taichi), as with nvidia they seem to burn up. stick with 8 pin connector cards and you'll be fine. considering 9070XT is top of the line right now id go that route or wait till CES and see if they announce the 9080 or whatever is supposed to be the next big card
>>729829548There are 9070s that don't use it?
>>729829548Is the Pulse safe? Hell, what models of cards ARE safe anymore for fuck's sake
>>729829686And Gigabyte had a thermal paste leak early last year, although they did say they fixed.
>>729824028>8gb of vram is now the industry-wide bare minimum>Low power draw>1080p monitors and televisions are cheaper than dirt>DLAAThere has never been a better time to game in 1080p.
>>729829851just dont buy the top tier models. for example sapphire pulse & pure dont have it. neither does asrock challenger & steel legend.
>>729829947I sure hope so when consoles had 1080p60 literally 20 years ago.
>>729821016Bazzite is overshilled jankware.Just go with Arch or Debian.
>>729829872the safest gpu you can buy is ironically 3 pcie 8-pin plugs while using a multi rail psu. if anything goes wrong the psu will shut down or die before the gpu does.
>>729830025Man why the fuck do they use defective connectors on only the good cards?
>>729830150Aren't those the hardest distros to use? You have to remember I am a retard.
>>729830178I have a 4090 and I’m eyeballing one of those 120€ Thermalgrizzly 12VHPWR monitor devices just so I don’t need to pay up to 2000€ in case my card explodes because I dared to unplug and replug my GPU to clean my PC (the cable is only rated for 20 mating cycles).
>>729830345they provide up to 650w for extreme oc but ofc its not safe
>>729830139>20 years agoThe 360 didn't even launch with an HDMI port. The PS2 was only capable of outputting 1080i in Gran Turismo 4. The 1080p60 gen started in 2013.
>>729830451I'm looking at those too, although Seasonic announced in 2025 some optiguard power cable monitor that automatically cuts out if it continuesThey said they plan to release it in Q1 2026 so I'm praying it actually does come out as I was planning to build the rest of my system in March/April
>>729830385bazzite is retard friendly like steamos. you just install and you're already in big picture mode ready to sign into steam for your gaming. you can also try endeavouros its like the mintos of arch.
>>729830549I’ve waited all day to say this. Ridge Racer 7 released in 2006, it was 1080p60 and it’s now 2026.
>>729830668I would rather not buy a new PSU and re-do all my cabling when I can just buy an adapter.
they're the future if you're not a goy and willing to take the plunge to linuxnvidia drivers aren't getting any better since there's zero intent on not making them open source
>>729830385They are the distros everything else is based on, basically.Only Arch is hard to use because it’s a terminal install.If Arch is too hard you can just use Endeavor to click through an installer.However using an installer is cheating and the linux equivalent to >you didn’t beat the game.
>>729830150>debianretard of the year awardimagine wanting a distro that only updates once every TWO FUCKING YEARS
>>729830385Arch is a huge pain for new Linux users because it is constantly receiving updates. Debian is much more beginner friendly but is usually way behind other distros in terms of updates because Debian prides itself on stability over cutting-edge features, which isn't exactly good news for gamers because Linux gaming is constantly improving. Get bazzite because it is just re-packaged Fedora that's pre-configured with everything you need for gaming, even controller integration, which in my experience, is a pain in the ass to set up manually.
>>729830695It's a tradeoff, the moment you actually want to tweak stuff immutable distros will become more work than a normal one. It's great for someone wanting to support a lot of machines at once, or for devs who want to target a fixed system, but I'm not sure it's worth it for a single desktop especially if devs aren't deliberately targeting it. It is a neat idea though and I expect it to grow over time.>>729830846I'd definitely recommend something like endeavor or cachy over raw arch for a beginner. You don't want to go through all that and then discover it doesn't run well for your games/hardware. Quick install means you can get a taste before investing too much time on it.
>>729830695>>729830846>>729831004Yeah the reason I really asked in the first place is because I don't know much about the differences between the other gaming distros like pop! or Nobara. Also while I do want to prioritize gaming I would also like to use it as a regular PC which is why I thought mint might be the better option overall.
>>729830786Fair enough, I'm in the fortunate/unfortunate position of building a new PC so I could afford to wait for the new seasonic, however it's only on their Prime PSUs so I'd be buying something like 1400/1600w which is overkillIf you do buy it buy the newer Pro 2 model, they already iterated on the model
