Hopes, Fears, and Expectations? I really hope it isn't a downgrade like Reload was.
>>729812030I fear it moves even further away from 4's atmosphere and instead focuses on Golden's vibrant and carefree tone.
>hopesThat they cancel this remake of the shittiest persona game
>>729812665But they're not remaking oldsona anon.
>>729812030I hope Kanji remains male.I hope Naoto remains a girl (a real one - the kind without a penis)
>>729812030>I really hope it isn't a downgrade like Reload was.Reload was an improvement in nearly every way.
>>729812238You're a retard.
>>729812923>Tone down the difficulty>Artstyle is worse>Voice acting is worse>Music is worse>Content reworked for audience>New content adds nothing to the story
>>729812030>hopesmarrying Nanako>fearsmodern audience censorship>expectationsmodern audience censorship
>>729812030pretending it doesn't exist
>>729812030>HopesYosuke finally comes out as gay but gets cucked by Trans Naoto/Kanji romance after years of being a closet case over his attraction to Kanji.>FearsIt's just another Persona 4.>Expectations?Persona 6 and Persona 2 Duology Steam in 2027.
>>729812030I hope it's an upgrade like Reload was
>>729814978this
>>729812030>HopesP5-like movement and dungeons.Cover some plot holes (like not making Adachi stcik out like a sore thumb).Give more to social links and how they interact.>FearsLocalization shenanigans.Re-dub Igor.Blatant trans messaging instead of sticking it to "be yourself" messaging of the original.>ExpectationsGraphically upgraded P4G, which is fine.
>>729812030fuck off, I just want Persona 4 Reload.
>>729812030
>>729813097It's more stylish in presentation, it's way snappier, you control your party members, you have full control of the camera, a lot of guess work is taken out of fusing personas, enemies and abilities display discovered weaknesses, you can just take rewards for requests you've already met the requirements of, the music is higher quality, you can fast travel to locations in the vicinity, you can resume tartarus from your most recent floor, the layout of tartarus is way more sensible,
>>729816138Adachi-san sees the future.
>>729812030it's a persona game, you fags would be happy with anything
>>729816375
>>729812030>hopesnothing>fearsnothing>expectationstrash and more nu-persona idiots plaguing the world
everyone is afraid they would do some controversial big change, but I think my biggest concern is that it feels like the same old game as before but with aesthetic differences and new versions of the music that sound awful.basically, when it comes to differences, it's a "damn if you do, damn if you don't" and that's why I am so tired of remakes and remasters. stop messing with our games
>>729816925I dont get your mentality at all. Play the new one, or play the original, or even play Golden, that one wasn't the original fyi - it was superior.
No hopes, really. It doesn't need a remake. P3 only needed a rerelease to have FeMC and The Answer so nobody has to ask which version to get to have everything. Instead, it got a shit remake that butchered the atmosphere.I want this out of the way so I can start looking forward to P6 at last. I miss being excited for Persona. I fear the modern audience approach ruining it.
>>729813097Reload was an improvement over original P3 in every single aspect, buddy.>voice acting is worseLMAOYou literally can't get worse than MORIYAMA-SAN!! and *GASP* THE ENEMY
>>729817102how can you make a Persona 4 that is a better game than Persona 4? you can't. That's not what it is. They just make everything HD and charge $70. this shouldn't be in development
>>729817531>too bright>ruined NEVERFELTLIKE
>>729812030>Hope-A great remake-new english VAs are just as good as the originals-Rewrite Marie's social link. The friendship between her and the P4 gang felt forced as hell>Fears-They make Yosuke gay because the persona community wants him to be gay-They make Kanji gay and Naoto trans because retards missed the entire point of these characters -Censorship in general. They tone down the fat jokes, gay jokes and trans jokes-They ruin Adachi's portrait
>>729812030>Hopes, Fears, and Expectations? I really hope it isn't a downgrade like Reload was.reload is a measured improvement on all versions of p3.Of course, P4 is much much better than all versions of P3, the only one coming close beign reload. So in summation, This game can only be good if you are disapointed.
>>729817603Hopefully the could rebalance the game to be harder, as Golden is a horrible version of the game. If it's better than Golden, then it's appreciated.
>>729817603Easily, you do the kind of stuff Golden did which makes the original painful by comparison. That's going to happen again, it will be impossible to go back to Golden even.
>>729813097>Tone down the difficultytrue>Artstyle is worseTrades blows>Voice acting is worseNo, it really isn't.>Music is worsecan be fixed with mods but generally true. Some of new songs are great though. >Content reworked for audiencetrue>New content adds nothing to the storynot an actual knock.
They'll censor Rises dungeon and just make it idol themed or something
>>729817896It's superior just for the choice in what spells to take when fusing personas, alone. Let alone the other avalanche of stuff it does too.
Do you think they'll include the Golden content in the game or sell it later as DLC like they did with the Answer? Never played Golden myself, only the original, so I don't know how involved the changes are.
>>729817823this is not a Golden style release, it's Reload 2
>>729812030If the og VAs of Adachi and Dojima aren't coming back, I'll torture myself by playing in Japanese.
>>729812030>HopesLots of new mixes of the old songsSome new original songsNew mechanics like Reload added (theurgy, navigator having actual abilities, etc)PLEASE GODADD THE FUCKING REVERSE COMPENDIUM FUSION from SMTV>>729818002All Golden content will be in the game.Episode Aigis was "DLC" back in the day just as it's DLC now. It's a completely separate story and section of P3.Golden content is completely woven into the game at all levels. PS2 P4 as it was is not even P4 anymore.
>>729818002Probably. Unfortunately, Reload's DLC seemed like it was intended to set a precedent. I don't think any of these companies respond with positive changes for consumers for greedy DLC. Would Sega do that? Are they as greedy as say, Bandai Namco?
>>729817998>It's superior just for the choice in what spells to take when fusing personas, alone. Let alone the other avalanche of stuff it does too.Oh, you mean THE GAMEPLAY?yes of course it's better. It being a remake of a game from 2007 that takes place in 2007 even caters to nostalgia so i can't imagine nostalgia being a reason to like the original better. Persona 3 FES has some of the absolute worst pacing i've ever experienced in an JRPG
Barely any fucking changes from the original
>>729818207I think the only argument that OG 3 fags have is that it ultimately does play differently due to being balanced around party control. OG 3's computer party members had a much more advanced AI than future entries. Having that as an option would have satisfied them I suppose.
>>729812030I have Persona 3/4/5 fatigue. My hopes and expectations are that it'll flop in Japan and do worse than P3R. Bring me Persona 1/2/6.
>>729818002I'd be surprised if they included Marie's storyline in the base game but I doubt they'll do that because sega/atlus love their paid DLCs
>>729812030I just know so fat localizer with blue hair is going to make this worse.
>>729814978Reload was a downgrade though
>>729818207Persona 3, 4 and 5 have bad pacing in general.
>>729818673That's been thoroughly disproven
>>729817973Fuck I completely forgot about Rise. You KNOW they're going to change something! I hate this timeline.
>>729818097The old VAs all came out and stated a couple days before the announcement that they weren't returning.
There's no fucking chance that the modern video game industry will allow an authentic remake of Persona 4. Nintendo and Steam will ban Rise's dungeon for sexualizing minors. Journalists will throw a shit fit about Naoto and Kanji's dungeons. Does anyone remember the part where your party tries to night crawl the girls and they end up in their teacher's room who offers to let them run a train on her? There's no fucking chance that Persona 4 is being remade in a way that we will be content with.
>>729818749Your shit opinion is not evidence to the contrary.
>>729813097>>Voice acting is worseJust play in Japanese, retard.
>>729813097As someone that is about to beat FES, I'm having a great time so far, but it's barren as fuck content wise. The basic Persona formula is established, but it's clear it was the first down this particular path.Pros>Atmosphere>Music>Animated Cutscenes>The dated graphics.The Bad>I can't tell if this is a preference for people, but I'm currently prepping to take on Nyx, and despite being a decently high level, at no point can you ever get comfortable with Tartarus. Every single composition of enemies has the ability to fucking dogwalk you if you're not careful. I got ambushed by an enemy and then one shot by a goddamn beetle.>I know this was present in 4, but I didn't ever change my party so I never really noticed, but having to manually level up each party member is a drag. And considering that each party member absolutely has a role to play in combat and dealing with enemies, it basically requires you to keep everyone up to speed.-The pacing is inconsistent as fuck.The Weird>Persona 3 has a fundamentally different feel from 4 and 5 (which I had played beforehand in that order). It's not that I don't find these characters enjoyable, but I feel like I'm literally living with brothers in arms rather than people who like spending time with each other.
>>729818606P3Reload translation was actually far more faithful to the JP script than the original EN releases
>>729812030But why is this being made? Out of all the Persona games, its remake has the least demand. P4G already has all of the modern QOL features of recent Persona games because it introduced them. I guess they're going to reuse P4D assets and make this on a cheap budget... But I'm fine with P4G, so I'm not buying it.
>>7298187204 was fine, 5 is bad but 3 is the absolute worst that has complete and total break neck pacing that disorients the player.>>729818446Fair. P3 demands you play it the way it wants you to play it.
>>729818097If you like the Eng dub of Persona 4 there's something wrong with you.
>>729812030>I really hope it isn't a downgrade like Reload was.If you think Reload is a downgrade, there is no way you'll enjoy anything P4 Revival does, and if that's the case, why bother getting excited for it at all?
>>729812030>HopesKashiwagi social link/romance
>>729812030>Hopescanon gay buttsex with kanji>Fearsall the homophobic shit in the game is censored, but in a way that makes it bland and boring. also no canon gay buttsex with kanji>Expectationsgame has a decent portion rewritten for the worse. it flops socially and financially, leaving metaphor as the last culturally relevant atlus title before the company fully forgot how to brand itself as a creative entity that has anything at all to say with their games
>>729818810Nah, the evidence is spelled out for you a couple posts up :)
>>729812030>hopesIt gets cancelled>fearsIt releases>expectationsZero.
>>729818832The people calling Reload bad are either Portablefags or Spergs who have only played the P3FES dub and any changes that make it unlike that is automatically bad regardless of true quality.People on the spectrum HATE change, even if it's for the better.
>>729819223>sex with a teen boywhoa take it easy there, Epstein
>>729819297It's even more simple.Emulator tards who can't run Reload and only play P3P steam remaster or FES on emulator mad about reload.That and all the autistic trannies angry about no FEMC in reload.
>>729819362>>sex with a teen boyuohhhh... erotic... *sob* kanji boypussy *sob*
>>729819427>That and all the autistic trannies angry about no FEMC in reload.I'm in a chat online and there's one very obvious troon that comes around every few days and mentions how he hasn't played Reload yet because there's no FeMC. Every single time. Without fail. I'm so sick of hearing his faggot whining.
>>729818047yeah it's better
>>729819192Based
>>729812030>DLCIts gonna be Outfits & Music from Persona 3 & Persona 5The Fucking P4 Spin-offs on the 3ds an the musicF O R G O T T E Ni hate this trash company so much. >Sell Persona 4>Sell DLC to make it look& sound like P3 or P5Atlus has a Mental Health Problem.
>>729818875Devs don't make remakes for games that ACTUALLY need them retard-kun, were you born yesterday or something? And why shouldn't they, millions will double dip, or triple dip in this case
>>729819530>>729819427To be fair, if they did sell it as DLC - they'd have definitely bought it en masse. I just think P3 is better off having no FeMC because those customers shouldn't be catered to on an ethical level.
>>729818890PS2 P4 only had one language: English.ENG Adachi mogs the entire cast in both languages.Kys.
>>729819593NO,
>>729819646femc route is 10x better than male protag route though? like the social links, the music, the protag design, the changes in the story are just all-around objective improvements
>>729812030>ExpectationsOn New Game+ you can explore the P3 Region, Brake into the old dorm and fight an superboss.
>>729819835Maybe if you're gay, and need fanfiction tier dialogue choices. Nothing FeMC added is good
Persona 4 is a very special game to me even if revival turns out great I don’t think I’ll buy it. I don’t want to change anything about it that’s why.
>>729819916>Maybe if you're gayoooooh. you're just mad you couldn't romance the high school girl party companions anymore lol
>>729819956If you've played it both on PS2, then Golden - you're an enormous hypocrite. P4 has changed a fuckton since its release
>>729819991 Keep defending your girl mode, we all know what kind of person you are
>>729819746
When they showed that small trailer and had the freeroam camera for Inaba I knew instantly they didn't get it.
>>729819626But would it make more sense to remake the games that people would actually buy instead of Raidou and P4?
>>729819746Shame the remake won't have JYB back
I still want to marry rise. I like rise because she’s cute and has a nice personality. Her boobs are also nice. Please God make a rise wife for me. Also give all based anons wives based off their waifus.
>>729820232>no you see, Fixed camera angles were actually 100% important to the feel of the game and not a limitation that hamstrung the game
>>729820232It looked extremely rushed and is probably just a proof of concept
>>729820395They were very important for the atmosphere of the game whether or not it was an intentional decision.Nobody wants the fog removed in Silent Hill despite it being a hardware limitation.
>>729820232Yes they ruined the tone, atmosphere and theme of a fixed camera angle. Now the story is complete dogshit, irredeemable. Honestly the worst thing to ever happen to me.
I hope it's coming out this year at least, I'm definitely not expecting any P6 news
>>729820641In September it will have been a decade since Persona 5. 10 years and we don't know a single thing about P6.And here I thought Sega buying Atlus would've put a fire under their ass.
>>729812030Troon and fag shit thanks to localizersYosuke's "homophobia" tuned downNo romance option for Ayane Matsunaga
>>729812030more aesthetics, p3rs biggest crime was looking bland as fuck.
Any references to gendered language ("You're a man aren't you?") Will be entirely removed.Localizers are all psychopath propaganda artists now. They do not want gendered language at all.
>>729818821>despite being a decently high level, at no point can you ever get comfortable with TartarusI feel you.I was afraid of the Reaper for a long time (OOOOOHHHH....dangerous, wild, unpredictable NPC that chases you!) but he was much easier than the average Tartarus sub-boss or mob fight.
>>729820215I accept your concession.>>729820308Let's hope for some schizo to make the AI voice mod.
>>729820818Though of some more>Rise's Shadow TV promo gutted as well as her suggestive dialogue>Shittier music in most cases>Naoto's bust not mentioned as much
>>729820308>remake of a game that plays perfectly fine>removes JYBlmao. The more I learn if P4R; the less I want it.
I just scrolled the entire thread while in bed. p3 reload shits on the original. fes. all of them. p4 revival will shit on the original. Golden. all of themfuck retro faggots and nostalgia fags.
>>729820232>Inaba is supposed to be a super small town, feels suffocating to people who dislike it>the Eye watches everything from the TV World>as people's perspectives change, the town feels more like a model playset they improve togetherIt's the small things that matter.>>729820343Based and Thank You
>>729821208>p3 reload shits on the original. fes. all of them.Agreed for the most part. FES has better Animated cutscenes like Thanatos's awakening and all The Answer ones. Also in FES you can use all weapon types.>p4 revival will shit on the original. Golden. all of themThat depends entirely on the localization. P4 is FULL of things that the (((people))) of today want to remove, including gendered dialogue, naoto admitting that a sex change is absolutely stupid and pointless, Kanji not being gay just because he has feminine hobbies (any references to feminine/masculine at all will be removed).
>>729821208>new = good!!1!are we ignoring the fact that p3r isn't even a definitive edition of the game? that some aspects (like the music, which matters THE MOST for p4) are most likely going to be changed for the worst? don't be dumb
>>729812945he's right thoughbeit
>>729821389>are we ignoring the fact that p3r isn't even a definitive edition of the game?What are you talking about? It literally is the definitive. It has everything you need or want from P3.
>>729812030I fear they will censor the main story.It has a ground for being a better remake than 3, since a lot of Reload problems came from basing the remake on P3P instead of P3FES.With 4 they are not even able to make such an error, so as long as they don't decide to censor it, it should be alright.I also fear Kitajoh will decide to change original OST for no good reason and fucks it up again. He should stick to making new pieces, that's where he shines.>>729819297I think Reload isn't a good remake, because it changed a lot in terms of Art Direction, without a clear vision of its own.>>729820461They had to rush the trailer out, because the original english Voice Actors got salty over not being picked again, and decided to leak the information out of spite.
>>729821497Yuko is uglier in P3R so it is objectively inferior
>>729821497femc route?
Hopes:CensoredFears:CensoredExpectations:Censored
I understand remaking 3. It's pretty rough and the best version of the game (Portable) removes all of the free roam shit.Golden is perfect the way it is. I have no interest in playing P4 again but with excessive bloom and a worse translation.
>>729818785>Nintendo and Steam will ban Rise's dungeon for sexualizing minors.Yet they were okay with P4G
>>729821578That's not someone P3 fans want, that's what trannies want. People who want FeMC don't have any actual respect for the creator's vision. It was a ham-fisted, pointless addition to P3P to make up for all the content they removed.
>>729821207Why the fuck would you WANT that retard?
>>729820818They wouldn't turn his homophobia down, they would turn it up to make him seem like he's in denial
>>729821612Reload has a BETTER translation.Why do you think P4R won't also be better?
>>729821631yeah, sure. whatever you believe, leaving femc out objectively makes p3r NOT a definitive title
>>729821713Lolcowlizers lack that kind of foresight. It if makes them ick it's taken out quick.
>>729821612Golden is not perfect the way it is. It left p4 as a broken mess
>>729820975>Let's hope for some schizo to make the AI voice mod.Has anyone done this for P3R?
Even if its shit at least I'll get some good R34 out of it. Especially Margaret
>>729812030kanji will be homosexualnaoto will transitionyousuke will be revealed as a latent homosexualthe scenes making fun of the fat chick will be removed
>>729821929Anon they're literally children.
>>729812030Hopes>they port old school RuneScape wood cutting 1:1 Fears>they don’t add wood cutting from old school RuneScape
>>729820232Persona started at 5
>>729812030>HopesReally, my only problem with 4G is the dungeons. 3FES had random dungeons too, but the floor layouts were much more compact, so you could move through them a lot quicker. 4 is basically just overlong hallways that really kill the pacing. Reload had more varied floor layouts, so I think this will be fine.>FearsThat they won't change the dungeons at all, that it'll have that awful UE5 look to it, and the new music will suck.>ExpectationsI think it'll be a perfectly fine game like Reload was. I consider it more of a sidegrade than anything. I'll still play 3FES sometimes. I expect little to no censorship. Reload was even more faithful to the original than the English localization of 3FES, so I have no reason to suspect 4R will be any different. If you're actually worried about censorship, you need to get off /v/ for a bit. Seriously, you guys pay more attention to the English-speaking Persona fanbase than Atlus does. I cannot stress that point enough. They're not going to rewrite two major character arcs to appease a few shrieking xitterfags.
>>729821964i don't care i was younger than they was when the game was first released
>>729821631>People who want FeMC don't have any actual respect for the creator's visionNone of you stupid niggers respect the creator's vision.Half of Persona 4 fans are always trying to make Golden look more like PS2 P4 when their vision was Persona 4 Golden.If they wanted Golden to look like P4 on PS2 they would have.
>>729821792It is definitive specifically because it leaves out the fanservice shit the original creator did not have any involvement with and did not want.
>>729821905>it's not nostalgia, it's just better
>>729821964they're literally 1s and 0s your moralfagging will not stop me. Also if you play the game (you) are supporting CP as this game has romance and sexual themes with the characters. Go turn yourself in anon.
>>729822020>If they wanted Golden to look like P4 on PS2 they would have.PS2 fog is literally lost technology.
>>729822085Why would someone give Yukiko fat white lips like that
>>729821578>It has everything you need or want from P3.
>>729822132Keep telling yourself that
>>729822020There's something chemically wrong with the brains of many people in leadership positions when it comes to games. They literally can't help but think "old thing bad" and will use the sloppiest HD textures to try and "enhance" what is perfectly fine.
>>729822215And you should keep conveniently ignoring the facts.
>>729822285Anon, these people never played any games. They are old boomers, who think PS1 and PS2 era games are the exact same as soundless black and white movies from 1920s.
>>729822315>lost technology>somehow amateur modders can add it to Golden>the original devs just couldn't because it was impossibleMoron
Considering SEGA isn't doing too well (financially) lately, will they take their heads out of their asses and actually force Fatlus to take more time on this remake or will they continue to be retards?
>>729812030Hopes>Persona 4 with good graphicsExpectations>worse music>localisation absolutely butchering kanji and naoto>persona 4 golden story>marie existing>forced to join band club>forced to join basketball club>teddy is trans all of a sudden>denuvoFears>that I'll be right
>YFW they refer to Teddie as They the whole game.
>>729822462It's probably a quick outsource job to some chinese studio
>>729818875Because the old game has problematic elements in need of censorship
my expectation is pure gold. trust in nippon.
>>729819746why do Japanese women love this guy so much
>>729822426NTA but it may have been a limitation of the Vita
>>729820395>PS2 games can't have freecamthis is how stupid you sound
>>729822378Unfortunately theyre in charge
>>729822659same reason guys are attracted to evil women, I would guess
>>729822662Not particularly, no
>>729812030>Hopes:They do a faithful adaptation of the original P4 story, no Marie P4G shit. Just upgrading the graphics and running in P5 engine is fine gameplay-wise>FearsThey make Kanji actually gay and Naoto actually Trans for "western sensibilities." They call Adachi and incel and insert more modern shit into it.>ExpectationsIts just P4G running on P5 engine.
>>729822662I'm guessing it was actually to help with image clarity because the vita's screen is tiny. Same reason for increasing contrast on a lot of textures.P4 doesn't use any special techniques for fog like Silent Hill 2/3 do. It's literally just the distance fog that every engine supports.
>>729822285It's called: fire all the talent and replace them with tumblr troons
>>729822659Guess I'm a japanese women then.
>>729822959Considering how they made Reload all bright and cheery, I fully expect them to not include any fog.
>>729823025you should seriously consider playing P3FES and Reload back to back sometime.
>>729823014>firethey aged out. So they either retired or moved to desk/paperwork jobs instead of doing grunt coding or Project management. You can also thank investors.
>>729823025Weather is a game mechanic
>>729823025Reload looks much better and is far more tonally consistent. The dorm being dark in FES made no sense.
>>729822469>>729822575
>>729823235>Why is my game, whose theme is about death, all dark and shit?Morons. Idiots all of you.
>adachi will get character assassinated and made to look like a walking incel stereotype>naoto is going to wish to become a man for real>kanji is gonna be turned into a raging faggotthank god we have the originals
>>729823349>the dorm lights are actually deep symbolism about brooding mom, you dont get it. GOD
>>729823349>Why is my game, that spins a positive message about the nature of life and the inevitable end, not all dark and dismal?The dorm being gloomy when it's the nexus for all the happiness of SEES makes no sense, and you never gave a shit about P3 if you think it should be dark.
>>729822959Everyones always talking shit about the fog but man some of those texture and model changes are fucking horrid. Especially that shot of the rice fields.
>>729823443Is that Door-kun IRL?
>>729823617Looks good on the Vita OLED, which is was made for.Respect the medium
>>729812030>Hopes, Fears, and Expectationshas denuvo
>>729823617I was messing around with a (well, the only) Vita emulator and I honestly thought that rice fields screen in P4G was an emulator error.
Reload's only mistake was not coming up with new fusion spells for the MC's iconic Personas.
>>729818812>>729818890>>729820215
Since Tara Platt reprised Liz, I'm hoping Johnny is back as Adachi and is back to the old voice, not the anime/arena voice.
Reload's english voices were a massive upgrade. Especially Akihiko.
>remake of a game that was already remadeWho fucking cares.
>>729824197my thoughts exactly, nobody else can be adachi except JYB. I remember seeing talk that he really tried to return for roles as well.
>>729824440One ticket for the American Society of Magical N.... uh... American Society please...
>>729817896fixed with mods is not a valid argument since it's not from the developers
