She won
>>729817759Not in my ending lmao
...the losing contest.
>>729817759Versofags eternally seething
If she had used Gustave's arm for this it would have been the best scene in the game.
>>729818183this ke
>>729818229The funniest line is>they're painted they're not real so they don't matter!Ok Verso is painted too, so why would his life matter? Play the fucking piano.
>>729817759the only way to win is to divorce yourself from the whole clown show in the first place
>>729820235Verso's soul is real, and she's torturing it. AliciaFags always conveniently leave that detail out when attempting to justify her objectively unredeemable ending.He deserved a better sister than a delusional tyrant.
>>729820235When they got called out for that, they changed their cope to>BUT THE SOUL THINK OF THE SOUL HE'S JUST A BOY YOU MONSTERDespite real Verso having no problem forcing his soul to slave away for centuries lmao
>>729820404>smiling CleaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>729820992Painted Verso doesn't have Verso's soul. Real Verso is indeed tired of painting, but seems to at least slightly enjoy the process, if the Fading Boy is anything to go by.
>>729820992Are you retarded? A small part of Verso's soul is in the canvas but that's the painter boy you see in the ending, the Verso we got, that lies and is (maybe) forced to play the piano at the end is a painted Verso, nothing to do with the real one or his soul.But again, why are you Versofags so damn stuck on what's best for Alicia, Verso, etc instead of all the people of the canvas?
>>729817759what game?
>>729817759Yes.
Maelle is ugly as fuckThere i said itt.Clea Fag and pic rel is me before you even dare to challenge my wisdom
>>729822501>Maelle is ugly as fuck
>>729822704COPE
>>729822501>pic rel is me before you even dare to challenge my wisdomIs your skinnyfat body supposed to be some sort of statement?
>>729822780Cope, i bet you don't even have arm hair due to low testosterone
>>729818229>"I don't want this life">gives him another life where he can be the artist he wanted to be>still acts like a bitch
I just love Lune. Everything else is secondary
>>729821121>Despite real Verso having no problem forcing his soul to slave away for centuriesWe're reaching levels of cope thought not possible.>instead of all the people of the canvas?Not even the same people, mind you. Just ideas of them, who'll think/act exactly how she created them to be, so long as they help perpetuate her delusion.Believe it or not, the stupid teenager who was intentionally written to be a stupid teenager, was actually wrong in the end.
>>729823000Lune's probably the most tragic characterit's not her fault that her entire world is tormented by emotionally unstable godsSciel has her weird zen thing going onbut Lune is 100% committed to saving her world, and it's entirely dependent on lunatics
>>729817759>AI gameyou lost tranny
>>729823032>who'll think/act exactly how she created them to beWhat was that about levels of cope?
>>729821580He also thinks renoir is right and didn't want to be stuck painting forever.
>>729821656>instead of all the people of the canvas?All dead, barring lune and Sciel.
>>729817759Oof...
>>729823281>monoco is verso's most faithful supporter and suffers for him>he's super happy in her ending being the doorkeep to his concert, despite verso's untold levels of suffering
>>729823032So the real Verso had a problem with his soul painting for so long? So why didn't he erase the canvas?
>>729823436The canvas back then was a simple kid's fantasy, that was fine.Then aline came and decided she wanted to die there.
>>729818705>"You're wasting your life watching too much anime, Alicia! That would've felt incredibly forced and cringe! And for what? The sake of fanservice!?"
you guys think lune shaves her bush? or anything?
>>729817759>She wonIf you are a fucking manchild
>>729823361So were Lune and Sciel.>y-yeah but it's too late for the others!When was this EVER stated? Even when the old expeditioners are said to be impossible to revive as they were it's FIRST stated that Renoir controls all chroma as the main reason it can't be done, time second. >>729823432Good job shitting on your own point retard: Monoco was never deleted.
>>729823532>too much anime he says>evil Esquiel doing Freeza death balls>Lune genkidama against the chromatic lampmaster>expedition 60 using their sweaty naked muscular bodies and ki bla- I mean training to punch their way through the gommage barrier and all the way to the paintress
>>729823626>the old expeditionersTheir chroma is too stale, that's why they're basically just zombies.
Why is she so obsessive about her brother?
>Alicia apologists>Lower case>No punctuationWow, they really are uneducated children. Predicted as such.
>>729823139>>Sciel has her weird zen thing going onSciel basically already gave up on living. She lost her husband and child. Her entire life was just "fuck it, we ball", if she died she died, if she won she at least gave her friends a long life. When she realizes what is really going on she still has the same mindset. The world is fake, but let's keep on fighting. If Verso wins, she at tries to be kind to him as she finally finds death she's longing for.Maelle's ending is something she didn't even consider until it was given to her.
this whole thing could have been avoided if Clea would have just simply spawned in and gave Lune's booty one single sniff, she would have seen the light and swapped sides to save the expeditioners.
>>729824189>this will give that little shit nightmares for sure
>>729824189god... how is it that the French made the literally perfect woman
>>729823882She thinks it's her own fault he died, because the Writers were able to attack their home because of her.
>>729824040Sciel hasn't given up, she's just accepted death is a part of life and if she dies at least she can go back to her husband.She's the character representing the acceptance of grief. Like, she's still hurt and what happened to her is fucked up, but that won't stop her from enjoying her life.
Do versofags have some kind of mental illness?... ask them for a hero and they point at Renoir, ask them for a villain and they point at Maelle, ask them for a sympathetic character and they point at Verso, ask them for a sane individual and they point at Clea, ask them for people that don't matter and they point at the rest of the cast... It's like they have brain deficiency that prevents them from connecting with the story, all their moral assessments are a complete reversal of what a normal person would feel, is it because we're on /v/?
>>729825070versofags have 75IQ, sadly a more and more common sight on the internet and /v/. They see maelle's ending being black and white, and instantly think it is the evil ending, they see color in verso's ending, and think it is the good ending. You could show them mexican execution videos in full color, next to a black and white classical music concert, and they would think the head chainsawing was the good entertainment.
>>729825070>CleaShe is the only one that matters
>>729817759We are the 1%! Jokes aside, the story beginning and ending with Verso saving his sister's life is too poetic not to be the canon ending, and obviously what the devs intended from the start.Alicia's ending almost feels like it exists to name and shame people who're moronic enough to choose it.
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>>729825070if I could be certain that the only downside of restoring the canvas was the unhappiness of one ghost/painted dead man and the death of one retarded girl, I could believe that it's the better optionbut at this point, I can't trust that Maelle isn't constantly putting her thumb on the scale to prolong her fantasyshe can repaint anyone she wants, any little thing that bothers her can be "corrected"she didn't even repair the whole canvas to how it was before the fractureand it's borrowed time; either she actually dies in there or Renoir comes back to start the fight all over again once his patience on her coming to her senses runs outthe inhabitants of the canvas are fucked no matter what
Clea is so fucking sexy...
>>729825070>Do versofags have some kind of mental illness?Several. That's the problem. Facts tend to do that when you're on the wrong side of history.
>>729826070
>>729825968>Alicia's ending almost feels like it exists to name and shame people who're moronic enough to choose it.It really is incredible, isn't it? I think the telltale sign is that Reddit is full of Maelle pickers who harp on and on about how the lumierans are "heckin' real people", which may be true, but it's not important. You can explain to them over and over again that it's not Maelle's motivation and how awful the life they're being doomed to is and how it doesn't excuse what she's doing to Verso and all you get in return is "but I did eat breakfast"
:<
>>729825070>ask them for a hero and they point at a hero>ask them for a villain and they point at a villainhmmm seems right to me dumb maellenigger
>>729826242AAAAAAAAAAAAAAI NEED CLEA WIFE
>>729826070>>729826242https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AJPOYh5lcMClea makes me feel unimaginable things.
>>729825070Low IQ makes you an easy target for words. Words are bundles of meaning and ideas, when you say "painted" a lot of information is conveyed implicitly, most importantly in this case that it's not "real". Low IQ people cannot see past that, it doesn't matter if what's called "painting" has almost no relation to the real world act of painting, and is more in line with "creation of universes", they never think that far.That's why ever Versofag goes on about muh suffering child, muh bad for Alicia etc without ever thinking about the people of the painting: because they were told they were paintings, so if they're paintings how can they be real sentient beings? It's why propaganda always works by labelling the other group, this is incredibly powerful to twist the minds of stupid people into not seeing them as humans and therefore accepting wars, genocides, etc. and all of those are mainly perpetrated by stupid people who rarely benefit, while a few smart ones use words to make sure they think they are winning somehow.
>>729826326>which may be true, but it's not importantinteresting premise
>>729826242>>729825670she kinda has a fat neck
>>729826326>>729826585>same argument from two different camps>one of the camps formulates it in terms of /pol/ memes and "it's true but it doesn't matter"Versosisters...
>>729826521Funny. I kinda figured she had a pet rock that she pretended was a turtle.
>>729817759As long as my Lune is safe
>>729826597It may or may not be true depending on how your interpretation, maellefag-kun. But to think about it doesn't matter. It might be your motivation for picking Maelle's ending, but it isn't actually what motivates the character. This fact is ironically lost on Maellefags because they cannot properly empathize with other people (fictional or otherwise), all while they insist empathy is what drives them. But their inability to understand another person's worldview is why they get stuck on this fact and ignore the obvious signs of Maelle needing help and refusing it. Their being real or not, and how you feel about this, does matter in the sense that its an interesting topic to think about it. It doesn't matter in deciding which ending is 'better' though, because it's not really a consideration for Maelle or for Verso. Both of them are too selfish for that.Hell, even Renoir feels this way about the painted people, and feels immense guilt over helping to essentially destroy them, but he still knows the choice he is making is correct.
>>729826801S-shut up!
>>729826801And it is quite lovely.
>"ESQUIE! ARRÊTE D'ENVOYER DES BRIGANDS CHEZ MOI!"
>Verso ending>Verso saves Alicia, again, while telling her that it's going to be okay>Exactly like real Verso did>Verso says last goodbye to his friends, that will follow him to whatever end>through petals he sees Sciel approaching and almost touches his hand but draws back in the end, showing that she understands why he chose what he did but doesn't fully accept it>Lune won't cross the portal and with one look shows how much she hates that Verso betrayed her trust again but also sits down, showing that fight is over for Lumiere>"It's time to stop painting, Verso">all while violin Alicia plays>Epilogue shows family accepting reality of Verso death and Expedition 33 waving last goodbye to Alicia before she sees real Paris behindIt's not even question of Verso vs Maelle ending. Every part of Verso ending is so kino, nothing to add or remove or change, it's on par with best ending of ANY game
>>729826849>"/pol/ bad" argument is ok>"reddit bad" argument is heckin' not okmaellebwos...>>729827353nooooo! you have to entertain my escapist fantasy that doesn't actually fix anything or solve any problem because... because you just do!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>729827353It is a very kino ending, but it does mean I have to agree with Verso, which is wrong.
>>729827591>I recognize it as the superior ending, but I have to pick the wrong one because I'm too stubborn to admit I was wrong at firstGetting embarrassing for maelle pickers here
>>729826992>It doesn't matter in deciding which ending is 'better' though, because it's not really a consideration for Maelle or for Verso. Both of them are too selfish for that.It's funny how you crashed out instantly screaming ad hominems but in the end we're in agreement. Verso's post choice is obviously better than maelle's post choice, because that's what the devs decided would happen. Doesn't change the fact most people choose maelle on their first blind playthrough because burning the painting (and killing everyone) is a stupid act. The whole act 3 is about funneling you into a dumb false dilemma anyway.
>maellefags
>>729827680I chose his ending first because Renoir was right, but it doesn't mean I have to tolerate Verso's nonsense.
>>729826349I think Clea would approve of that statue
>>729827779>crashed out instantly no cap ong fr these verso uncs are not 6 7 at allGetting even more embarrassing for maelle pickers here
>>729827824>Renoir was rightgreat character but its kind of bad writing on the dev's part, he isn't some sympathetic villain he is just right.
>>729817759Mogged by Sciel>Parry itParry THIS
the reality is that she should have to delete her minecraft server. her mom is just being a clown and wont log off, or go make her own server.
>>729827779Lol, on my first playthrough I was saying "if I get the chance to side with Renoir I'm doing it" as soon as I got to the end of Act 2. Even missing the extra context from the Reacher and what actually goes down in Lumiere it was obvious which choice was correct. Granted Verso ending isn't exactly a "Renoir ending" but it's pretty damn close.It was solidified when Maelle all but said "yeah fuck that I'm not actually leaving". That is so selfish and unbelievably childish. How can people unironically side with this woman and feel good about themselves? She's basically just throwing a tantrum. And I will remind you this occurs before Verso goes to diddle his child self's soul and the actual ending choice is presented.
Why do retarded Versofags claim this is proof of Maelle forcing him to play piano? This is painter degradation, this eventually leads to a hollowed out hole for a face like Alina, Renoir, and Versoul have. You can see her skin is coming apart, it's not just chroma on her face, her face is literally falling apart (it's likely she's either allowing Verso to see this, or Verso can see this for some reason)Verso starts playing piano because he realizes this won't last forever. His goal was always to die, and now he realizes that is happening even if Maelle doesn't keep her word.
>>729828341Yeah, real Renoir has some crazy good arguments and Maelle is literally a baby
>>729828390>Verso starts playing piano because he realizes this won't last foreverVerso starts playing the piano because he's being enslaved by someone who is essentially a goddess, retard-kun. If she was so moral and noble as Maelle-picking retards claim, she wouldn't have brought him back to begin with.Usually Maelle-picking retards gloss over this fact entirely because it dismantles their ridiculous moral high horse they love to ride on, it's bold to see you confront it directly.
>>729828390Because they didn't pay attention to the epilogue where we see the entire family (besides Deadso lol) have the same paint on their face when using the canvas.
>>729828592This is just your headcanon, nowhere is this stated, nor does it make any sense since you can gommage enemies in game and Maelle never shows that on her face when doing so.
>>729828341>How can people unironically side with this woman and feel good about themselvesBecause the other choice involves killing everyone. You don't have to agree with everything maelle stands for to choose her ending. I bet a bunch of people made this choice because they cared about Lune, Sciel, or wanted to see Gustave again. You decided you don't give a shit about the painting people, good for you that makes the ending you choose obvious, that doesn't mean everyone else does.
>>729828390Because they expect you to not question it. Same reason they only ever post the last 20% of the ending in black and white instead of the previous shots of everyone (other than Verso) enjoying themselves.
>>729828827"But I did eat breakfast"Jesus christ I'm not even talking about the facial degradation you retard, and that is because it isn't relevant to Verso, it's proof that Maelle is killing herself (another reason why her ending is the wrong one) but has nothing to do with why Verso is playing the piano. He's playing the piano because he's being forced to by a selfish and vengeful child with god-like powers>>729828834>Because the other choice involves killing everyone.Ok, and your choice involves enslaving them instead. Lune and Sciel are bright girls, certainly smart enough to realize that what Maelle is doing to her own brother in her ending is completely immoral. If you can accept Maelle's treatment of Verso, either the remnants of the real Verso's soul or the painted Verso's wicked piano skills, then congratulations, you are OK with slavery
>>729817759sure she won but you didn't because you're all FAKE GAMERS! also wrong site btw reddit is two blocks down to the left.
>>729829062>n-no I never claimed it was proof she was mind controlling him!lmao another Versofag argument gone up in smoke
>>729829050Hey quick question, why didn't Maelle bring back Gustave's sister? I thought she wanted to bring everyone back?
>>729829183Correct, retard, I didn't. I have never seen anyone but Maelleniggers make this "argument". I don't exactly want to suggest it's a weird false flag, but...Not to mention, it completely overlooks the moral reprehensibility of what Maelle is doing, which Maelleniggers love to do.>>729829192Stop... stop asking questions! Maelle is the good ending because it is!!! Okay!!!
>>729829192>hey quick question, why didn't the game show every single person who ever died and make unique models AND mocapped face models for them in this short epilogue cutscene???We don't see Gustave's dick either, what if she didn't bring it back huh? What if she painted him with an axewound like yours?
>>729817759Her VA so did not deserve to win at TGAs for her performance.
>>729817759This games ending is an unironic intelligence test and it's so funny seeing 50% of people fail.No I will not elaborate which is the right ending, it's quite obvious if (you) are above room temperature IQ
>>729829192Anon, if a character didn't show up at the opera, the most likely explanation is that the character had better things to do at the time, why do you assume Maelle did not bring her back?
>>729829192>why didn't Maelle bring back Gustave's sister?There's proof of this, yes?
>>729829319>maelle brings back pierre, someone she never met and do not see until the game is over in her ending>but we don't see emma, a character maelle would know well due to her connection to gustave
>>729829341Weak and cowardly. You must be a Maellefag
>>729829465What are you even trying to argue here? Did you expect them to show a reel of every single character related to the main cast and anyone we meet? If anything this just proves she CAN bring everyone back, even if she didn't know them, she's not just painting from her memory, because she had no memory of Pierre.
>>729829629Congrats on getting it wright
>>729817759yeah? I kinda stopped caring about this turkish soap opera family drama plot in the half of act II.
>>729822501please o pushups and eventually pullups if you can. don't an hero unless you did something to fuck up your hormones already then go ahead nobody cares
>>729830353lol? i already do push ups
>>729820992The game doesn't even define what a soul is. The real Verso is dead, why do I care for it?
When arguing with a versotard, always take into account that they have initial misconceptions about the story, low attention span and all that.That guy did not see Emma at the opera house, and he then assumes that Maelle did not bring her back. Anyone with a functioning brain would say "is this guy dumb? this is not logical reasoning". But you have to remember that this is a versotard and in his delulu interpretation he has already headcanoned that Maelle is a master puppeteer and the opera is her dollhouse, therefore everyone she brought back MUST be at the opera house to entertain her as a good little slave. That's why that guy thinks Maelle did not bring back Emma.
>>729830513When arguing with a Maelle tard just remember you are talking with a pedophile that wants to fuck an underage girl and wants to live in a fantasy world
>>729831152>16>pedophileVersofags everyone
>>729831219Go back to your fantasy cope world
>>729823000>mid asian lol
If you didn't>play on expert immediately upon starting the game for the first time>get 100% achievements + all characters to 99>choose verso endingyou didn't beat the game
Is this the thread to praise the game sars or is it this one >>729819839
>>729826589>forces the copy of yourself to make monsters to kill humanity until your family shows up to end your torturous existencedid anyone else think clea may have been acting a bit rude here
>>729833309The painted people aren't real, it's like telling Sims what to do.
>>729833402>still pushing the "uhhh their not real for some reason lmao" meme in the year of our lord 2026
>>729830513she's so cute it hurts
NOOOOOOOOOOO MAELLE STOP DON'T MAKE ME LIVE OUT MY PASSION!!!!!
>>729822078Best pic I ever seen in my life
Maelle dies at the end of Act 2, her entire character is replaced by Alicia.
>>729828273Think they nailed it, he's villain from Maelle's perspective of a stubborn naive child unable to cope and overcome tradegy, but for outsider's eye, the player, he's just right and that's all there is to it
Just beat clea unleashed after 1 hour of parrying her bullshit. Can I get some (You)s?
>>729828273That's what makes him great. He doesn't need to be sympathetic, and he is if you consider the fact that he is a father, trying to keep an apparently suicidal family together.But he IS right, almost irrefutably so, and that is elder god tier bad guy
>>729836589remind me, what was the name of Act 3 again?
>>729837764nice job anon
should I play something in my backlog or do a 4th E33 playthrough
>>729827353The Verso ending is so perfect that I fail to see why they bothered including the Maelle ending.
>>729838863>beat the game 3 times>spent 300 more hours jacking off to swimsuit versoI don't know if I should kneel or what
>>729827591Verso did the right thing for selfish reasons but at the very least he acknowledged he was a lying hypocrite asshole while Alicia just went "N-NUH UH!!!"
>>729817759average 6 or 7/10 jrpg, whose main achievment is fooling retards by pretending to be a small indie studio. Also maelle lost since she is the most disliked character in the game with a shit ending. Verso is a step above, because hes not as annoying and shit looking. Both endings are ass and the writing past act 1 was so poor i dont know how anyone can praise it.>>729837764L>>729838863>>729839176people like this are just pathetic. Wasting 100s of hours on a single player game with no replayability that is 20h long. Like least play different games, instead of wasting 2 full months on a mid game.
>>729828273He's not a villain. He's an antagonist. Some of the best antagonists turn out to be right
>729839487>people like this are just patheticyou would know
>>729820235Alicia is just a dumb little brat. She's too naive to understand how fucked up the world truly is. Both Verso and Gustave are some sort of ideal versions of what Aline considered a good man to be, mostly images of Renoir in his youth when they met each other. It's even more fucked up that Verso is an adult as opposed to a boy. It's not a Verso/Alicia thing, it's a Real Renoir vs Aline thing, and it only makes sense to destroy the canvas. And that's also why it's cool that we got the parallel between Sciel and Lune. Sciel is basically a normal human being who understands people and relates to them. Lune is frustrated af not because she realizes she's fake, but also because she realizes that she's nothing without the fake world of the canvas. Everything about her is basically that. Imagine sacrificing everything in your life and see everyone die in front of you, and you dedicate everything in your power to try to understand why it happens, only to learn that everything was just the ramblings of a mad woman.
>Killing yourself over a minecraft serverlmao Alicia is a dumb cunt. Go touch grass bitch
>>729841150the going into games machine is very addicting, please understand
>>729818229funny how the images swap places in the verso ending
