AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>729828241PC fats BTFO
Why doesn't Microsoft or someone just make graphics cards for consumers?
You will all be raped by AI until morale improves.
>>729828241>record high for 2026>check date>January 1st 2026the eastern europs arent sending their best
>>729828304>consoles don't use ram, SSDs, or GPUsWow I had no idea.Also CPUs are next. There is a non zero chance that the rig I built 2 months ago for $3500 is worth $10K this time next year.
>>729828743I think they means they already hit peak prices overall in 2026.
can't i just.. not buy the 5090?
>>729828557Never ask a shareholder pussy whipped computer company to expand their market because whatever they previously were known for producing will also turn to shit.
>nshittia
This is just resellers trying to scam you, right? Just like the push to dump retro trash on zoomers. Ai isn't the reason the price goes up.
>>729829421
>>729829421it's both but right now they're just jacking up the prices early like they did with tariffs
>>729829421The reason the price is going up is because literally one single member of the tribe that cannot be mentioned for banable offense reasons decided to have manufacturers front him all this hardware specifically for the purposes of denying others obtaining it. He's doing it all on loan, he doesn't even have the facilities set up to slot the fucking chips in. And when he does his explicit purpose of making this machine is to ask it how to make the money back. It's like a tokamak generator only it works.
>>729828557intel is trying now that nvidia is leaving the market - it will take 5 years+ at least for them to catch up though
>>729830767>one single member of the tribe that cannot be mentioned for banable offense reasons
>>729828557The chips come from crashed alien spacecraft they're unable to reverse engineer. There's a limited amount, they can't just make more.
>>729828241You really don't need more than a 3060
>>729828557SAAR CEO means they only understand cutting cost by firing more people and adding more AI
>>729832018No they come from magical rocks carved by mystical slanted eye bib wearing techno people. For only their slanted special eyes are capably of operating automated lithograph machines which carved these magical stones alien to their homeland. For no other land can house these mystical rock carving constructs as they too require other magical carved spherical rocks which magnifies yet another alien force that carves those stones and they cannot be recreated due to the binding laws scribed in the Abrahamic scrolls of bald eagle land.
5090 owners are going to feel pretty stupid about their $3000 purchase in a year or two when hyperinflation hits and the power grid goes into disrepair and stops working.
>>729828557Because the AI data center bubble involves such ludicrously fictional amounts of money that the concept of the "consumer" is now completely irrelevant to the bottom line of anyone involved.
>>729833048The idea that if AI doesn't succeed we could end up in a permanent great depression is both insane and horrifying.
>>7298321123000s are samshit fab, this means they overheat and they will die faster
>>729829421Prices will likely go up regardless due to cut production + memory price increases. Then resellers/retailers will also make their margin plus distributors. It's just supply and "demand".
>>729828815That is obviously what it means but ESL Americans cannot into thinking.
>>729833113>Permanent great depressionlol wut? the economy functioned perfectly fine without AI like 6 years ago
>>729828241Meh, it's fine. This year we will start to see cloud gaming subscriptions where you can pay something like 14.99/mo for a remote PC that has a 5090 in it. That's going to be a way better deal than even the original MSRP, let alone 4 or 5 grand.
>>729833396>slight input delayMy autism couldn't handle it
>>729833113That is going to happen even if AI "succeeds.">>729833385It has nothing to do with what AI is or does. If it all collapses and we "go back" to 6 years ago, what do you think will have happened to the trillion dollars spent on it?
>>729833465Don't care as long as lefties suffer
>>729833396>
>>729833396you are the problem imagine wanting to rent a pc you will fuck the rest of us over
>>729833113fuck'embig business has gotten immune to the rational operation of a successful businessthe privatization of gains while pushing losses to the taxpayer and consumer must end, so let them fail
>>729833562I own my games on Steam.
>>729833465>Implying I can't both draw and generate fan-made horrors beyond comprehension at onceI can do both at the same time but the comp can't handle the blender tool if I do that.
Haha this is whyhttps://www.youtube.com/@Echoes-Of-Eldoriahttps://www.youtube.com/@EironasMythicPipeshttps://www.youtube.com/@Timbertimetvhttps://www.youtube.com/@persianbakery20/videos
>>729833726All of that could have gone to women with tails, what a fucking waste.
>>729833579I think it's vastly preferable to having to buy new parts every two years.
>>729833850>two years.
>>729833465Reminder this was happening no matter who won the election.
>>729833823you will get 2000 sloppily genned 10 second loops of the same video with minor edits flooding all of your favorite boorus instead and you will like it.
>>729833850>having to buy new parts every two years.It's not a water filer, you can use a pc for like 10+ years they don't go bad really. Well a built PC anyway, not a laptop/tablet shitter.
>>729833914>b-both sidesCope
>>729833726This is what I don't understand there are fears that we will outpace storage production and get fucked over, but literally just don't save slop or delete all slop after 7 days. Problem solved.
Can you localgen on Intel yet?
>>729833219Really?My 3060ti runs very cool, even with a 10% overclock.
>>729834013>a faggot postlol
>>729833997You are absolutely not.playing modern video games with 10 year hardware. Fuck even Wilds doesn't run with current hardware.
Hehe, so much for the "Master Race".
>>729828304>PC fats BTFOThe "Tech Jews" are trying to short out the PC market with Blackrock money.
>>729833963See the problem isn't AI, it's users who use it like a digital magic 8-ball and diceroll prompts instead of just doing shit like inpainting. If they had even an iota of talent they could just draw a stick figure or use other plugins to provide a base to what they want, but no they think "1girl" is gonna do everything.
>>729833726Nobody would do this if there wasn't money to be made doing it. Remove the profit incentive and you remove the problem.
>>729833465obsessed
>>729834105>You are absolutely not.playing modern video games with 10 year hardware.You're goddamn right I'm not because there isn't a modern videogame in the last 10 years worth a bucket of piss. And I'll have you know my GTX 1080 is still perfectly capable of violating Texas law.
>>729834245That's very antisemitic
>>729834179What I wanna know is what were these retards doing before AI came along?
>>729833113but if AI succeeds, we're also going into a great depression because almost everyone will lose their job
>>729833465>you effectively voted to kill your own hobbyThat's correct I want a video game crash to happen.
>>729833113>if AI doesn't succeedlol there is no if. The whole thing is built on lies and scams.
>>729833465>implying swallowing jew cum and importing infinite jeets is right wing
So if AI succeeds will everyone get gibs for sitting on their ass all day? If not who do these companies expect to buy their shit?
>>729828241you voted for this
>>729834394Which is insane to me, because AI should have been part of the post-scarcity economic model. Nobody should be forced to work 40 hours a week at the office. That's a layover from 100 years ago. Instead without restrictions, corporations were allowed to become their own small countries and rule over the real people. We need regulation, not fear mongering over technology
>>729833465Very low price to pay to not get killed for being white, getting arrested for posting memes or having my kids being taken away from me and have transgender surgery performed on them.
But you owned the libs, right?
>>729833823Krystal ruined star fox
>>729828241Fucking no one was buying 5090s, this is the biggest performative outrage shit of all time >b-but I need a 5090 to play arc raiders on my 1080p monitor Shut the fuck up you stupid nigger >b-but this means other cards will increase in price too THEN FUCKING GO BUY ONE OF THEM BEFORE THEY DO AND STOP BITCHING YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.
>>729834179>See the problem isn't AI, it's users who use it like a digital magic 8-ball and diceroll prompts instead of just doing shit like inpainting.the only people that find generative AI impressive or even worth using at all are <70iq sub humans, so that's not surprising in the slightest.llms do have their uses, but outside of the odd shit post, generating media isn't really one of them.
>>729834486We're not doing this again. I'm not voting for a progressive leftist politician no matter how much you post this. I'm never giving you freaks power again. We need a third party, not someone glorifying criminals and saying we need more taxes to fund the freak show.
>>729828241funny how quiet mobilefags have gotten since this ram shortage has sparked controversy
>>729834580I don't give a shit about owning the other side, that's just you (le own da chooods). I voted against policies that were gonna directly affect me negatively.
How long will I be good with my 3080?
Can't gamers just revisit retro games on older hardware? Wouldn't that be the easiest solution to price increases and supply shortages? Who needs cutting edge technology when it will become obsolete soon after. Plenty of great games at least 2 decades ago rhat should be piss easy to run on modern computers.
>>729833465You guys post this every thread and you never admit that you just wanted power for yourselves. You wanted us to vote your politicians from the establishment into office so you could have your freak show on display and wield power over everyone else just like you did during COVID. If anyone questions you you just keep repeating >You fell for the grift!
>>729834580Undoubtedly. Owned AND raped.
Nvidia drivers suck ass
>>729834602>>729834379>AI haters when they realize the alternative is learning to draw or having to filter, deal with and pay a furfag for their head teddybear>>729834585Krystal ruined you
>>729833726I just started listening to it after seeing this. It's kind of catchy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nZ1X-4sGoE
I couldn't care less whether it's $3000, $5000 or $10000. I wouldn't have bought one for $2000 anyway
>>729834715Because they need a reason to justify their AI outrage even though 90% of them would never afford this high end hardware in their life
>>729834839I think it's pretty stupid that people want to throw out computers because of corporations misusing them. AI LLMs were an inevitability. The same as Photoshop. That's just how advancing technology works. No one seems to understand that we need legislation to control corporations from undercutting everything for the sake of profit margins. As you can see, they don't even care about the consumer anymore. That's a huge problem. It's not going to be solved by throwing out computers or putting up a stop on how much they can develop. The problem was always with corporations and stock trading being able to take advantage of the system that was meant to enrich the lives of the citizen. I have yet to see any politician from any political persuasion wish to control that and not just cease power for themselves.
>>729829421>AI isn't the reason the price goes up.manufacturers are lowering supply for consumers to make more for AI. Sure, it's not directly AI but the reason is still AI.
You know I dont even care if subhumans think AI is the greatest thing to ever exist and that they would rather destroy the world than admit they dont care about any artistic endeavor or expression of the human spirit because they are goylems BUT if the actual computer equipment used to make actual art get so expensive many people will never be able to use the digital tools to make actual art they will literally not only incentivize the lowest form of slop imaginable but will actually prevent people from creating actually good art, that one great indie game that reddems most of the trilpe gay slop released in the year might never be able to be made at all.I guess everyone will be back to analog and live musical instruments, which isnt that bad but I dont see personal computers being a thing with the way things are going, I doubt this could be prevented too since I dont really believe the president really matters for a long time now in muttland
>>729828743It's a prakesh jeetander
>>729834529Corporations control the american government. There will never be regulations or anything of the sort.
>>729834973>we need legislation to control corporations from undercutting everything for the sake of profit margins.anon...
>>729835047It's a 5090 my dude I don't think artists are gonna die out because they don't have 24gb of vram
Reminder the only people who like AIslop are jeets
>>729835218>>729835275I know it's a pipe dream, but I'm tired of people blaming computers like we should just throw them out of the windows. The problem is never technology it's always how someone uses it. It's the same argument for gun control. You have people wanting to just outright ban the things because of bad actors. Its fanatical. >>729835047Bro, please spare me your Bohemian artistic rant. That's not going to win over anyone but Twitter artists trying to grift everyone with Patreon commissions. You're going to have to attack from a different vector, either physically or through corporate control legislation.
>>729835419Again, this argument is not going to win anyone over except for people that already agree with you. There's enough people that you can see like it for different reasons like helping with school, making memes, or coomer fuel. You're not going to convince people to stop using it because you keep calling them Indians. That's really a 4chan thing, outside people just hate Indians because they're a nuisance. They don't connect them to the rule 34 spamming.Either realize that you need to stop corporate, or just physically drive to the data centers and graphics card manufacturers and blow them up. Those are your two realistic options.
>>729829526
hating AI arts are justified because they're fucking soulless slop, but hating AI as a tool is fucking retarded, it's like hating photoshop because it can remove the background from your photo
>>729833465I would gladly go homeless and live with other junkies if it meant that libtards suffer as well. Fuck them.
>>729834973consumers throwing out computers doesn't make sense but from the standpoint of having a server building/corporation it does because the gains are visible with the increase in data bandwidth /power consumption ratio which is ultimately their profit. The reason it's super assbackwards now is because >>729830767>>729831554decided to be a sniveling conniving (REDACTED) and fuck other corporations from doing that which in turn fucked consumers because both markets utilize the same technology now. It will be fixed ina year when he firesales all the shit he never utilized and profits off the inflated prices he caused so that he can then turn around and buy DDR6 when it comes out next year (only to probably do the same thing to DDR6).
>I've been priced out of the only thing that makes me happyHow are they allowed to do this?
>>729828241Just wait for the China war, 5090s going to six figures soon
>>729828241>Jeet_Nation
>>729835731You can play decades of games on a $150 device with zero extra costs
>>729835731I wanted to make lefties suffer
i hope my 3090 doesn't die anytime soon.
>>729835731It's a toy, grow up and get another job lazy zoomer
>>729835731Slaves aren't allowed to be happy. Now get back into the cage.
>>729835359Its not about a 5090 man, we already hear about cuts of 40% in consumer GPU production, its not hard to see that in the near future they might remove entire lines of GPUs they dont see much point in making anymore, maybe the 6000 series only gets a 90 and a 70 card, these people sound more insane with each month, like how much openai have to burn for everyone to start seeing they are just grifting? we are 3 years into this retardation and they lose money on subscriptions of 200 dollars, there is really no explanation to this level of confidence and cash burning for something that show no sign of profit and quite the contrary, is only going to burn MORE money the more it goes onIf they havent stopped by this point, I have no idea what would take to make them stop
>>729835562If the tool is exclusively used to destroy things i like then I'm going to hate the tool, It has ruined basically every aspect of the internet and technology that I cared about. I don't care if theoretically it could be used for a good purpose when it isnt.
>>729828241I'd rather buy pvs-14s instead of this shit
>>729835731nigga how poor are you that you can't afford to spend $2000 on your sole hobby every five years?
I want to cut to the truth of the matter hereWe are in an era of diminishing returns, the only graphical advances games do now is filling the screen with particle effects and disgusting and ugly post-processing filtersIt's why characters from silent hill 3 have a million times more fidelity than npcs in your average AAA game, and why modern games don't have as robust physics engines and interactions as even half life 2 because they need to justify selling you new hardware with particle effect bullshit just filling the screen every 2 secondsthis is easily met when EVERY fucking game is made in a bloated dogshit engine like unreal engine 5 which is made SPECIFICALLY to fill your screen with this type of nonsenseso here's the pointif you don't play modern fucking garbage you have no need to worry because your current graphics card will run games that matter to you just fineeven if you DO play modern trash, if you're not retarded and turn off the majority of these graphical effects, your card will last another 5 to 10 years just fineand based on steam's own number: only 14% of gamers in 2025 even played new games released in 2025, so everyone who is doomposting about the steam machine being "weak" compared to modern graphics cards, which also only meet their "performance" when using fake frame generation garbage, is lying to themselves, because you don't even play games that require this level of graphical fidelity in the first placethe real problem is console gamers are going to get fucked and enjoy it, because consoles are made with hardware to accommodate the biggest AAA slop, even if you don't want to play any of the latest UE crap, and you will have NO CHOICE but to buy a PS6 to play some exclusive less graphic intensive game because you were too retarded to build a PC years agopic related is a 16 year old game
>>729828815>Peak prices overall in 2026>A day into the new year
>>729835562Photoshop didn't suck up 40% of the world's RAM supply. It didn't plunk a noisy, polluting datacenter into your backyard. It isn't threatening to plunge the country into another great depression. AI as a whole is rightly despised and none of your ebin reddit arguments are going to change anyone's minds. Might as well deal with it.
>>729836017>He thinks parents buy toysThey might now that they can't give their children a device that can keep up with their spastic gremlin attention spans.
Im gonna fish my 2070 out of my shed and repaste itItll serve as a backup in case shit goes wrong, as much of a downgrade as it is
>>729833535>what do you think will have happened to the trillion dollars spent on it?The people that have it will sink it into stocks or diversified private equity funds, funding other businesses, so they can coast forever off the interest. The wheel keeps on turning.Honestly them crashing would probably be good for regular people because if they fund other shit with that money as I described, it might include things that employs more workers than datacenters do. Would help spread the wealth out in that case.
>>729835701Has no one this whole time noticed he has the same name as the Dead space religious leader that caused a massive amount of bullshit even long after he died? Unitology. Altmann be praised... >>729836112>>729836053Well then you guys are suffering the same issue bReddit does, in that they create such an insular community they don't realize people think differently outside of it. The majority of the world does not hate this technology, as seen by the uses statistics online. You are a minority. You're going to have to think of a different strategy besides seething about it on a dying image board. Like I said several times, either you work with legislation, or you get physical. Trying to call other neets to arms is ineffective.
>>729828241I voted for this. Trannies lost
>>729836304>Has no one this whole time noticed he has the same name as the Dead space religious leader that caused a massive amount of bullshit even long after he died? Unitology.It's because they are so comically evil they transcend fiction and comparing it is blackpilling since most of the time it's worse than the fiction.
>mfw i bought all of my upgrades right before Trump announced the end of affordable PC parts for consumerswhew. having to wait another 2 years to upgrade my ~10 year old rig would've really sucked.
>>729836304>The majority of the world does not hate this technologyLet turd worlders build this shit in their countries if they love it so much. White countries hate it.
>>729833914Holy cope democrat CHADS like zohran mamdani are anti-ai
>>729836304why are you projecting this weird argument onto me? when did i say that the entire world hates AI? I dont care if im the only man on earth who hates AI, I'm saying I hate it because everything it does is shitty and destructive to the things i care about.You cant fix this, the only solution is to withdraw from the hobbies i used to enjoy, I wont be gaming in 10 years and ill be on the internet far less, im already getting sick of the endless AI arguments on this site.
>>729834446They can, however, be kept up forever by government gibs and insane investment. (You) will pay the bill through inflation of course.
>>729828241>bought gpu a year ago>it's now worth twice as much as it was when I bought itI don't see the problem, I doubled my money
>>729836739If a country like China dives into something you can fully expect the rest of the world to follow. There is no way that Western profit holders were going to deny themselves a part of that market. Which goes back to my first point, either they get regulated, or they get destroyed. >>729836829Okay you're just shitposting. No classical leftist supports that grifter. >>729836923Okay I miss took your argument, It's understandable why you would hate it but don't be so black-pilled. The market is a fickle thing, and things can change tomorrow. I know they keep projecting that the bubble isn't going to pop, but this is a very delicate situation.
>>729833113>doesn't succeedDoesn't succeed at doing what?
Chuds were always the protectors of the rich pedophiles, idk what anyone is surprised about
I have a 5090, and there is absolutely NOTHING worth doing with it.All the actually good AI models are closed source and need data center infrastructure to run anyway.All modern graphixxx AAA games are fucking ass and get boring after an hour.Good games are all either retro or indie and run on a potato.The only thing I can do with it is generate super sloppy AI porn that you can't generate on corpo AI model because it's censored.Oh yeah, and playing Minecraft with shaders or gorillion render distance.Thats it. That's what you can do with a 5090.I'm thinking about getting into VR but I don't really want to burn out my eyes.
>>729837090The problem is for the people who didn't buy a GPU last year before the prices doubled.
>>729837109Oh you mean like all of the Discord and Roblox groomers you and your own defended? Or how about during the COVID era government overreach? Or how about all of the times one of your own screamed about banning anime only to later get arrested for having gigabytes of CP on their PC or grooming minors? Don't think the last 10 years of bullshit is just going to get swept under the rug because of current news.
>>729837180Their fault for not listening to LibChads
>>729837225Idk what LibChads is but it sounds like something I'd be better off not listening to.
>>729837334You won't do shit
>>729837334saar leave the govcorpos alone
>>729836739>rich people want to protect their investments and AI threatens to destabilize their monopoly
>>729837334Nuke California, save the world.
>>729837469I will never understand why Texas gave up being the tech capital of the world. When looking into the history of tech it seems like everything went to shit when all the tech companies moved to Silicon Valley. I don't remember who said this but he was on fucking point. There are no engineers in Silicon Valley only business men.
>>729837643The discontent with tech CEOs is actually quite new. It hasn't even been 1 year since people started to view them like scum parasites. All the negative effects of AI started hitting midway through 2025.
>>729828241>dalit nation
>>729837728all the loser nerds who were bullied in school got revenge on the world by making it megagay
>>729832474but...they all come from ASML which is in the Netherlandshttps://www.asml.com/en
>>729837712>words words wordsHoly shit the left cant meme
Most AI shit will go to Palantir.Now start hating the jews.
>>729834446it's already being used by big corporations and small businesses alike, and it's still getting better.sure it's not going to be true AI, or AGI anytime soon, but what we've already got is still impressive and useful. The only "failure" will be from excessive hype and marketers lying to investors, and the profit growth is only 120% instead of 100000%
>>729837712They weren't on the ballot, their leadership was. Same people that led the party you're trying to convince me to vote for. >>729837918This absolutely has to be a bot. There's no observance of context. I just said a keyword and it replied. That's not a retort my friend.
>>729837870You lost the argument
>>729838067That was a different poster friendo. You never made a retort, so I'm afraid you lost the argument before it even began.
>>729837947>the profit growth is only 120% instead of 100000%This right here is the thing people don't seem to fucking understand. AI doesn't shit gold-- not anymore than a fucking search engine does. All it does is increase productivity marginally.
>>729838156he's not going to answer you. he's a bot, so he'll never address the point
I still have no idea what Ai even does. What's the endgame here? Funny images and videos?
What the fuck do you need a 5090 for? What game can't you play at 240hz 4k without a 5090?
>>729838274I'm not a bot, and you're dismissal of everything I've said before that is a pathetic attempt at controlling the narrative. I can address every point you want to bring up, so go ahead and give me some then, progressive faggot.
>>729836050If the outlook is so dire then go fucking buy one now before they go up and it'll last you for ten years. What's the problem?
>>729838363
>>729838413Only real gamers take out 5 year loans to buy GPUs
>>729838363The latest AAA slop at a silky smooth 15fps
>>729837728Texas was significantly fueled by aerospace, and the cold war space race, as well as mililtary projects. Silicon valley didn't quite fuel a move, but was a paralel devevelopment. Californa had the combinaton of better university funding, it's own aerospace, and also very importantly Japanese and Taiwanese. >There are no engineers in Silicon Valley only business men.There used to be. Cal, Stanford. UCLA. CalTech. Harvey Mudd. Now it's bankers and political activists on the rise there. >>729837820We passed megagay when they legalized marriage. We're at least to terragay now.>>729838059I'm going to test it out later.>>729838307Trying to defeat the great firewall of china with shitposting maybe?
>>729838326kek fucking called it >>729838274
>>729828557Because production capacity is limited and it wouldn't be as profitable.
>>729833914Ah yes, Larry Ellison and Elon Musk were Kamala’s bestest buddies
>>729834548Someone was arrested for reposting Trump's own words
Fake news.The MSI 5070 TI I bought yesterday before the new year is the exact same price right now.
>>729838307the next evolution of search engines, kinda. Except you can specialize it in any sort of knowledge you have available, which is useful if you use a lot of obscure technical data in your work, and can't remember off the top of your head whether this hardware from 10 years ago is compatible with this random attachment from 3 years ago. Sure you could just search the manuals on both, if you have them, doublecheck everything etc, but if you have a properly trained AI then you can just ask it "hey does x work with y" and it'll give you something like "generally yes, except for the specific purposes of z, in which case you can work around it by..." and so on.also it can automate the work of 90% of people who work primarily with computers.>inb4 but AI makes mistakes sometimes and hallucinates stuffyes it does, which is why you still need competent people, but you'll need far less of them. Sort of like a master tradesman with a team of apprentices.
>>729828557They want to force you onto the cloud
>>729838814Yeah looks like 4070 Ti Supers are about the same price as they were back when I bought mine in September. The prices for those were already totally inflated in any case.
>>729838307unironically: nothingtech has been stagnating for years (phones are flatter, Moore's Law has been beaten, slightly better litopgraphy)but AI lets tech companies innovate and compete on something new so they get to make line go up over nothing to keep their quarter line go up goals.and all so an AI summary of the civil war can insert ads into the voiced summary
>>729838814Did we get duped? I did the same shit. Oh well, enjoy your Unreal 5 games I guess.
>>729838967You will own nothing. (and be limited to 100 hours of gaming per month)
>>729839167a lot of people already game primarily using streaming services, especially now that fiber internet is becoming more common. In the future, actually owning your own hardware will be for enthusiasts only
>>729838471I played that on AMD just fine bitch boy
>>729839059Yea maybe. One last push to get rid of remaining obsolete inventory by nvidia maybe.We'll see in the coming months.Oh well I'll be using this 5070 ti for the next decade, no matter what games come out or not.
>>729839241At 4k and with max settings turned on???? I THINK NOT, FUCKING NIGGER
>>729834245Start imposing daily and monthly upload limits if your views are < 10k or you have to pay for the excess storage you use in a month
>>729838156The Epstein files are all horseshit so who cares?
>gaming finally starts improving after 20 years of decline>cohencidentally Jews conspire to make hardware unaffordable at the exact same timeThis was a targeted attack
I boughted my 4090 (used) for $2000I won?
>>729839316Congrats on losing two elections because child genital mutilation and hating white people were too important to abandon.
>>729839167>this argument againI swear to God gamers are the stupidest fucking consumers on the face of the earth. Who the hell CARES as long as you can play the game, anon? Good God.
>>729834179Majority of AIfags can't even inpaint properly or never experimented controlnets because they're all stuck with ing2img and prooompting. They don't have their own ideas they hope the AI could come up with good ideas on their own. There's even another AIfag that gets upset that another AIfag 'steals' their prompt idea and get more views. This is "MY OC DONUT STEEL" all over again
>>729839434|>|3type post
>unironically voting based on "le woke video games" Please don't tell me any of you actually did this How stupid are American men, for real?
>>729839441here's my OC donut steel
>>729839316Trump really did get away with printing an inflation bomb in 2020 and blaming Biden for it. I can guarantee he will get away with blaming liberals for housing prices spiking when the consequences of deporting their builders bears fruit.
>>729838363SHUT UP I MUST CONSOOOME
>>729834105Try not playing dogshit games and you won't have this problem.
>>729839526>jews are the ones who would suggest you pirate your vidya instead of collecting inferior hardware components that are more likely to be destroyed than their perfectly viable digital footprintsWtf i love jews now
>>729828557They can make more money forcing you to subscribe to a gpu.
>>729839563Trump has literally gotten away with everything. He's a real life Captain Sternn-- the one who managed to become president in spite of it all.
>>729839434Are you actually serious? Do you not understand why not owning a game, and giving complete control and power over to a subscription service might not be ideal?
>>729834529>AI should have been part of the post-scarcity economic model.That concept exists in an ideal world where you're seen as more than just a mere biomass of labor and military servitude.The timeline you live in has always been increasingly centered around greed and "chaff"-cutting.
>>729839548Yes, they actually thought Democrats were passing laws making their games gay or that creative leads in studios were something to vote on lmao
>>729839982Sure, I can understand that. But I also know that there is no such thing as giving complete power and control to a subscription service, especially when it comes to video games. You may as well cry "ownership" about your ISP or the company that provides your electricity. They have you by the balls far more than any live service does when it comes to vidya as a whole.
>tfw you finally realize that "muh tumblrwhales" were right about capitalism being dogshit all along
>>729840176I can tell you're inherently an evil person, who probably deserves to have their face smashed in. You are not the type of person worth having a conversation with.
>>729839441Nigger local AI slop is dead and so far behind the closed source corpo shit it isn't even funny.NO ONE is training free local models anymore and everyone is switching to closed source cloud shit that needs data centres to run.Personal Computing is gonna go the way of the dodo and YU VILL OWN NOTHING.
>>729840238>gets called out for having faulty logic>insists i get my face smashed in because of itYou've got aa pretty twisted concept of what "evil" is, anon. kek
>>729840440"It's pointless to own anything electronic, because the electric grid could go out. That means you should be fine with not owning anything electric, and subscribe to use 64GB of RAM."
>>729839434>pay £10 a month for 100 hours of a streamed videogame with shitty input delayYeah no thanks. I'd rather go outside.
>>729840537Doesn't matter which route you choose, both of them are fucked at the end of the day if your power goes out. Personally, I prefer not to purchase needless hardware.
>>729828241>>729828304
>>729840176>But I also know that there is no such thing as giving complete power and control to a subscription serviceThe year is 2032, consumer owned hardware is a thing of the past. You have your mobile phone and gaming is 100% streamed. You still are stuck with 100 hours a month like you live in communist china.How is this not losing all your control? Because all the control I have right now is my PC with games on it that work whether I have internet or not.
>>729840546>shitty input delayskill issue>paying for an unsatisfying subscriptionskill issue
>>729840801>not being able to coherently follow a conversation and respond Skill issue
>>729840782Because PIRACY exists, you fucking idiot. As long as you have an internet connection and a VPN, there is nothing holding you back from playing 99.999% of video games FOR FREE, WHENEVER YOU LIKE. If you don't know how to pirate vidya then, again, that's a skill issue.
>>729840801I don't play online shooters, I just dont like looking at input delays becase I'm not a peasant.Both the subscriptions are unsatisfying because even the "premium" has a 100 hour limit.
>>729840734Yeah. You are a tremendous inhuman faggot. I bet you're the type to say if you're not totally self-sustaining in every aspect of your existence, you're doing things wrong. I good fucking god, you're arguing about the power grid existing being a thing that cucks you.
>>729840882HOW ARE YOU GONNA PIRATE RAM, ANON? HOW ARE YOU GONNA PIRATE A GPU? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS ABOUT?
>>729840882>doesn't know what hardware meansSure i'll download an SSD, some WAM and a GPU you gigantic tard.
>>729833726So we're already past the point when slop outnumbers actual human made content.Now let's see what happens when slop will become 99% of content.
>>729840957>>729840973Wait, you guys are crying about hardware? What the fuck? Even on 10 year old hardware you can still pirate and play 99% of games. Unless you are expecting to be able to play the latest games on your shitty, outdated hardware. In which case, idk what to tell you
>>729828241give me one reason why I shouldn't mass buy GPUs now and sell for a 2x profit in a few months
>>729841129You literally do not understand this conversation. The price gouging happening right now is all a fucking setup to make it so you will subscribe to do computing in the future. Subscription GPUs. Or everything in the cloud. 'Owning' a computer will be a luxury.
>>729841170I'd do it if I had the $$$ But seeing as how I don't, godspeed, anon.
>>729835035>manufacturers are lowering supply for consumers to make more for AIWhich doesn't make sense since manufacturers are not working at capacity, they are intentionally keeping GPUs scarce to keep them expensive. Been doing that since probably even before the GPU crash during covid.It would make more sense to supply the consumer market and the ai market at the same time. They can easily invest in enough manufacturing capacity to do so if they don't actually have it.Obvious artificial scarcity is obvious.
>>729841129Why would anyone have 10 year old hardware? They were told for the last 2 years to buy hardware for AI.
Well I'm glad the entire internet will be permanently flooded with the ugliest, low effort slop imaginable and in return I don't get to own my own computer. Cool future. Definitely DONT shoot tech CEOs in the street
>>729841129>Even on 10 year old hardware you can still pirate and play 99% of games.Right now you can. What does the future look like? Because its looks unaffordable right now.
>>729841229Ah, I see. >owning a computer will be a luxuryLike for a hardcore enthusiast? As in, someone who is willing to drop the kind of cash necessary to own one instead of the massive casual gamer market that could care less? Why is this a bad thing, exactly?
>>729841496Because it forces a bunch of current enthusiasts (us) into the 100 hours a month or mobile gaming territory.
>>729841496As in you're gonna fucking pay the price of a goddamn new car to own a computer that in 2019 you could buy for about a $1000.>Why is this a bad thing, exactly?You know when I said you deserve to have your face smashed in? You are consistently affirming that statement.
>>729841450Not like you'll ever be walking the same streets poor loser lmoa.
>>729828241>5070 ti
Can someone explain the jew hatred thing to me. I legit don't get it. I literally see people screeching about the jews over EVERYTHING.Is it all the browns who hate them or something? I know the jews were blowing up muslims. But that's a good thing.
>>729841496You are jewish or possess kike soul 10000000%. Youre the most ghoulish fucking creature on this site currently surpassing groomer trannies and other elements like that.
Right now ONLY xx90 nvidia gpus are above msrp.the other cards are barely +15% msrp price now. hell, the entire 8gb gpu market is -8% below msrp since they are quite shit at AI(for all the new features local has got now).I recommend all of you to get 10-16 gb cards NOW IF you want mid 4k vidya and maybe play around with AI. If not you can survive in 1080p +120 fps with a 8gb gpu.GTA6 won't be worth it anyways and certainly won't on ultra settings so you will survive for 10 years unless you want shinny shitty new tech in AAA games with ugly sheboon female protags.
>>729841481>right now you canI played Wuchang, E33, and Dragon's Dogma 2 with a rig that was running a GTX 1060 and an i7-7700k. Had to mess with settings and run Lossless Scaling, but getting these games to run at 50+ FPS at 1080p at mid settings was absolutely doable. Your nightmare scenario where you cannot function without your precious worldly posessions is a literal skill issue. If you cannot adapt to less than ideal circumstances, then you can go fuck yourself as far as I'm concerned. >inb4 that makes me evilI'd expect nothing less from an absolute cretin than to make that excuse.
>>729833726That channel only has a few hundred videos of music—a few released per week. That's barely a few gbs. Why do anti AI cucks need to lie? There's plenty of bad true things to point out.
>>729841642Someone should shoot you with a febreze bottle and hang you with air freshners, stinking jeet faggot
>>729835731>slowly ramp up tyranny>americans gun you down>take a break>slowly ramp up tyranny>americans don't gun you down>ramp up tyranny>americans don't gun you down>send tyranny into overdrive>americans don't gun you downyou see, they played the long game. now that the old american stock that would gun everyone down is either 90 or dead, the owners can convert america into a full on slave country, only it's similar to the matrix, where you simply exist to give the owners money, while in return they kill you at an ever growing rate, while 100 of your replacements have already been let into the country for free.
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>>729828241China will eventually produce a decent alternative for 1/3 of the price and americucks will cry a river once again.
>>729828241>People would rather wait for the mythical chinese GPUs that won't even be for sale in the west over Intel GPUslol lmao
>>729833535>what do you think will have happened to the trillion dollars spent on it?Money doesn't just disappear when it's spent. The money that went to build data centers, buy all the RAM, and pay AI developers is money that goes back into the economy.
>>729841860/v/ NATION WONNEDTHOUGHTEVERMORE
>>729841754I can't because it's a banable offense to, especially for the benefit of those posters who live in countries where reading my reply would be illegal.
>>729841598>usI already have a mid-high range gaming PC. I don't imagine I'm going to have to worry any time soon about anything remotely close to what you're describing. >>729841619>you'reRefer to the above statement. Sorry if you don't have an adequate gaming PC, anon. For what it's worth, I am not convinced any of what you describe will come to pass. >>729841775kek
>>729840225What the fuck is the point of capitalism if I can't afford anything. Priced out of house owning and now priced out of PC desktops. What's the point of wage slaving? I'm fucked regardless.
>>729842160when all the competition aligns against the common man, and not each other, there is no benefit to them to be affordable
it's gonna be piss easy for nvidia to trick retards into subbing to the cloud gputhey're gonna trick people into thinking they're getting 6 gorillion fps when the game is upscaled from 144p
>>729842131"I have a computer that will last me a couple more years. Clearly life and existence is not on a downward trend, and when it's time for me to upgrade, I'm not setting myself up for a horrible realization and set of circumstances. I do not think beyond five minutes into my personal future."
>>729842160You're still comfy if you can shitpost here and play video games.
>>729841754Basically, it's Yurops expressing the racism passed down to them by their parents. Yurops live in fear of Jews and since this website allows them to be anonymous, they come here and post about it to let off some steam.
The funniest part about this new "price increase" is Nvidia restocked a bunch of 5090FEs on their online store a few weeks ago still at $1999.99 MSRP. He was in some discord that was pinging when restocks were happening and on 12/18 they restocked like once an hour every hour during business hours so I managed to grab one as well even tho I have a 4090.
>>729842427oh I deleted a section there... "he" refers to my brother
>>729841786>GTA6 won't be worth it anywaysGTA6 won't release on PC till 2030 at the earliest anyway. If you want to play it on release you'll have to buy a console.
>>729842239It's unfortunate that the term "projection" gets tossed around so much on this website that it's lost all of it's meaning, because that's literally all you did with that post. I just upgraded my rig earlier this year. I don't anticipate having to worry about another upgrade for at least another 5-7 years. And by then, I'll definitely be able to afford it even if it costs as much as car. Unless the economy collapses, at which point I think concerning myselg with playing the latest vidya won't really be at the top of my priority list.
World governments need to unify and pour money into semiconductor manufacturing startups. The world needs dozens of manufacturers so that they can try to undercut each other and flood the market with semiconductors. With ample cheap supply flooding the market, it will inspire investment into RAM and video card manufacturing so that the consumers have many companies to choose from. Right now, the semiconductor industry is manipulated by the very greedy and monopolistic TSMC, and that dynamic needs to be broken.
>>729833113if ai crashes and all these pc parts companies go under that just means the internet in general will steadily become a niche thing as new parts/phones/builds become obscenely expensivethis is objectively a good thing and i pray for the downfall of modern tech every day
>>729828241Build a PC they said. It'll be cheaper they said.
>>729842498Yeah we should ask the tooth fairy to create more factories. That will solve all the problems.
>>729828953>free pea sized amount of c4 per gpugonna start hoarding intel gpus and make a c4 brick if i ever win the lottery
>>729842160Stop crying bitch nigga.Niggas in 2100 will have to buy a subscription for clean water and fresh air.
>>729842489Genuinely incredible. In the same breath you are saying "I'll be able to afford a computer, even if it costs as much as a car, while shrugging off the notion that economy could possibly 'collapse.'" From the way you're phrasing things, with "I'll be able to afford things then," I assume you're some fucking college kid, or recent graduate. Sorry, I'm just old enough to remember that computers SHOULDN'T cost the price of a fucking car.
>>729842489>And by then, I'll definitely be able to afford itHow when you won't have a job anymore? Rich parents?
>be a 3rd worlder>have to choose between playing the latest corpo slop 3rd person action shooter or dont starve till death for a whole monthIts all down for that cloud gaming priority isn´t?
>>7298338509070XT + 9800X3D = $1000 for 5-7 years worth of gaming at 1440pBut don't buy the 9800X3D now, wait for the 9850X3D2 coming Q1 2026If the dual 3D cache they are gonna try for the first time is worth it
>>729842498Governments pouring money on anything makes it more expensive, not less.
>>729842569>Build a PC they said. It'll be cheaper they said.It still is cheaper.Consolefags have to pay a sub to use their own internet connection, plus their games can't be pirated.
>>729842862Third worlders or asian in general play their team shooters slop at the internet cafe
>>729842862look at 8gb cards and wait for a price discount(it will be an used card but amazon will check how used and it won't be much). Be content with 1080p.
>>729842629Reading comprehension, retard. Seed money is needed. Governments need to seed the investments to lure in the big private investors to get the industry rolling. More factories are secondary. What is needed first and most importantly is for the emergence of many, many more manufacturing companies. They will compete with each other and drive prices down. When you have a monopoly, the monopolistic company can set whatever price they want, constantly putting upward pressure on prices.But you are just a little ol' dingbat. Now, pipe down, stick to your marvel cinematic universe, kid. The adults are having a conversation.
>>729842427If I was not tapped out buying gun stuff I would have probably done that but alas now it's ogre...
>>729842997A year long subscription to a console online is like $50. A 5090 is $5000 now. You'd be subbing for a century.
>>729842748I'm just trying to cover whatever bases I assume your desperate lunacy will reach for next. I don't anticipate either of those scenarios coming to fruition. I anticipate the prices stabilizing within the next few years at the MOST, which will be long before I care to make any changes to my current rig. And no, I have nothing to base that off of. Just a hunch.
>>729843094k. Retard.
>>729843031Fucking 0iq take holy shit
>>729834013Jensen's only saying that cause all businesses know that Trump is easily bribed and flattered, so might as well credit him for everything.So it's kind of fair for Trump to get completely shit on for the current AI hype shitfest even if Kamala wouldn't be able to stop it in the POTUS position.
>high end GPU market becomes a barren wasteland >everybody is stuck on ps5 pro /Xbox series x tier tech for the next 10 years >developers are forced to optimize >enter a new golden age of video games This isn’t possible because of pajeets right?
>>729842131>I already have a mid-high range gaming PCYou're a complete nigger that cannot comprehend the future.>anytime soon>mid-highMid then. You already need a new pc. Almost everything is going be UE5 from now on.
>>729842964Not even remotely true. Sometimes governments need to get an industry started by offering financial incentives to entrepreneurs. That's how many industries have emerged over the years. The initial seed money via incentivisation is ultimately paid back to the government, the government steps out of the industry, and the private investors remain in place. For example, Elon Musk and Tesla. Without massive financial incentives to lower the cost of electric vehicles to the consumer, Tesla would have failed and disappeared within three years of it's startup. Government financial assistance reduced the cost of those vehicles by twenty to thirty five percent.
>>729843134I accept your concession. I hope you can afford to build your dream rig in the near future, anon. Wretched bitterness doesn't suit you.
>>729843224Assume everything will get worse. Do not assume anything will possibly get better.
>>729843168Simply because you said so? Or were you eventually going to flesh out your statement with something to substantiate it?
>>729843224Sure but let's just say you're gonna have much bigger concerns than vidya with civilization collapsing and all, so it's not really relevant.
>>729843262There's no concession. "I think things will stabilize based off nothing. :)" Meanwhile every company in the world has been trying to push a sub on people. Nvidia themselves included. The future these companies want is for you to own nothing, subscribe to everything, maybe, MAYBE if you are upper middle class, you can buy a computer every 10-20 years. Like a car.
>>729843262>.gifNever seen that posted here before. You a reddit faggot?
>>729843094>I anticipate the prices stabilizing within the next few years at the MOSTAMD and Nvidia CEOs are cousins.Why is Nvidia going to change their mind and raise production of consumer GPUs? When it benefits them a lot more for you to use their cloud gaming service?Why would prices go back down? Outline the supply change that would make it happen.
>>729843243>4070 Ti Super>7-7800X3D>32gb DDR5 6000mts @ CL 36>2tb SSDI'll be fine.
>>729835731Even though I got fomo'd and spent 2600 USD yesterday, I can honestly say that the only things I truly enjoy in life nowadays are:Eating good foodTaking a good shitTaking a showerSleepingSinging, usually in the showerAnd of course engaging in doompost discussions like this.
>>729833113Its like its on purpose or something.
>>729834394That's so weird to me. How many people's job is data entry?
>>729843363>anon thinks he's the king of 4chan
>>729828241you don't have $122 a month to pay with affirm?do americans really?
>>729834529People keep saying this but the reality is the rich will just cull the poor because we'd tar and feather them for putting us in a world where we can't buy fucking food.
>>729841754I cannot reasonably do so in a concise manner. I will simply go with "if you can think of something bad with societal structures, the long-nose tribe more than certainly was responsible, one-way or the other". It's an extremely large web of interconnected people and events, it's really, really long to describe.If you REALLY wanna know,>>>/pol/ is this way. Hangout there until it eventually makes more sense, as anons post documents and drop the relevant names/events very often.
>>729843502Not forever. And that's what we're talking about because white people are capable of worrying about the future. To you, it's an abstract concept.
>>729836739How's France doing these days? Is Paris still beautiful?
>>729841754Trace any problem back to the source and pay attention to the surname.
>>729835218>There will never be regulations or anything of the sort.Crazy how niggers will just say shit. We still live in the most suffocating era of regulation literally ever. Deregulation would kill like 90% of corporations currently operating.
Prices will only get better once the US collapses and China takes over...But by then the US would have collapsed and you'd have bigger problems than expensive electronic hardware, like no electricity, water, or affordable gas.And if Chinese EVs aren't allowed in the US then cheap electronics undercutting industries deemed part of the national security apparatus sure won't. Consumer grade DJI drones are toys in comparison so got a pass so far.If Jiang from youtube is correct then US is trying to assert control over the entire western hemisphere meaning no Chinese products in north or south America.Sounds crazy given how much we depend on cheap Chinese tech currently...
>>729833535AI works. It's in the papers. The problem is whether we need it is a different matter. This tech makes the user dumber. It's the cognitive equivalent of sugar for the obese if it's not handled just right. Now who trusts the government with this much power to fuck everything up? I certainly don't. The best case scenario is pretty fucking grim
>>729843852What if the problem is Muslims raping and stabbing women while they steal USA tax dollars?
>>729835898Like you?
>>729833113There won't be a crash. The average quality of life will go down steadily until one day people suddenly realize everything they've lost.
Bad end>pc part manufacturers never give a shit about consumer sales ever again>the future is paying an overpriced subscription for cloud compute and all you can afford is a shitty thin client>google stadiaGood end>nobody can afford strong hardware anymore>doesn't make sense to make gigabudget AAAA games that nobody can play>everyone goes back to making midbudget games that can afford to take more creative risks>vidya is savedEven better end>AI bubble pops>datacenters liquidate all their gpus>cheap 5090s for everyoneWe're getting the bad end though. the other two are just cope
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>>729837947I truly wish people were able to be realistic about this. There actually are interesting and useful applications for LLMs right now. Just recently, there was that company that allegedly (we'll have to see how it pans out) found a geothermal reserve by using an AI to process data. Even on the average consumer level, it can genuinely be good as just a smarter office tool. Like Jim Bob down in accounting doesn't need an Excel script or a for-loop applet to replace each instance of x with a different line in this list, he can just ask AI to do it. The technology would be a lot better if it weren't advertised under the idea of "oh it's great, it's basically one step away from AGI that can process and comprehend data faster than the vocal communication barrier and finally break through on sci-fi ideals like EM drives" so they can build enough data centers to the point that it is poisoning and wasting resources, or the fact that it's supported by shitstirrers that are gleeful about trying to say everyone will lose their job and human interaction and creativity will become extinct (and that's a good thing). That shit just naturally spurs the overreaction of people trying to say it literally does nothing.
>>729843925>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1965Trace any problem back to the source and pay attention to the surname.
>>729835834They never had jobs anyway. Those that do have busywork jobs that are already useless, but will be paid forever. So you only hurt a subset of centrists who actually put effort into learning a skill
>>729843745>not foreverLol I'm not sure what gave you the impression that I was assuming my rig would be powerful enough to run every new release until the end of time at the highest possible settings, but hey-- you're the "white" guy here, so I'm sure it's just over my head.
>>729840225Please never post a gif of Josh Moon again, thanks.
>>729843902>AI works, I says soOh ok.
>>729841812>just run games on mid foreverNot everyone has a slave mentality like you, golem.
>>729844001>Jim Bob down in accounting doesn't need an Excel script or a for-loop applet to replace each instance of x with a different line in this listJim Bob is a moron using AI to solve a problem that that could be solved with a bit of brains; this seems to be the application for most AI, and I'm open minded about the stuff.
>>729841812>dude, bro, justWith what? How are you gonna have a mid range gaming PC when for-consumer GPUs no longer exist?
>>729844123>also known as the Hart–Celler ActCome on now; your making the case for AI replacing you.
>>729844202The bit of brain is just time consumingThe AI makes it faster
>>729844150>feels entitled to the best equipment without having to pay a premium The basic principles of economics are a slave mentality now?
>>729844259Yes but how many Excel sheets do you think they can realistically have for Jim Bob to process per week in Company X? It just means he'll have to pretend he's working 99% of the time instead of 90% of the time like now. And sooner or later someone's going to notice and just replace 10 Jim Bobs with one. And then the other 9 will do what exactly?
>>729844215Buy them secondhand. Or is that option beneath you?
>>729828241>"pushing towards $4k">pic related is $2.5k
>>729833385>starve to death? lol wut the granaries have been full all summer
It's a good thing there's nothing made beyond 2015 worth playing, and the entire golden age of video games was over a decade before that and entirely emulatable.
>>729844329>FrenchSure, and Celler's colleague who worked on previous drafts of the bill? The question was: "What if the problem is Muslims raping and stabbing women while they steal USA tax dollars?" And "Trace any problem back to the source and pay attention to the surname" applies. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_H._Lehman
>>729834245>Nobody would do this if there wasn't money to be made doing it. Remove the profit incentive and you remove the problem.Ever heard of a thing called "life"?>Hey could you please just stop trying to survive? That thing you found that makes you a profit.. could you just not do that? It offends my delicate internet basement sensibilities. Please, stop.
>>729830767>one single member of the tribe that cannot be mentioned for banable offense reasonssounds like bullshit
>>729844394>Buy them secondhandWhat is it about this conversation you cannot comprehend? You are aware that the future stretches on infinitely right? We do have longer than five years to look forwards to or dread. Are you a bot?
>>729844501>implying the /pol/ tourists ITT even play vidyaBetween Crash Bandicoot and attempting to prove that they aren't just total fucking lunatics, it would seem that the latter always wins that dice roll.
>>729844291It's a slave mentality to suck up whatever scraps the jew allows to fall from his table without complaint. That last part is key. You are a slave.
I'm like 12-13 years out of date, running on a 770. Been a pretty good rig, only had to replace the power supply when an electric outage took out the original one and my porn drive died like a month ago. I'm pretty well off though.
>>729844202That's just the nature of all technology. What matters is where the line is drawn in regards to comprehension required for his job, and in this context, AI would be more akin to actually being able to teach hotkeys and such to old accountant boomers and what not. The more egregious thing is more just A) the ridiculous financial, environmental, and societal cost for such gains, and B) businesses that do use AI to try to shortcut required comprehension as well
>>729844670>buzzword buzzword cope seetheToo bad I don't see any arguments.
>>729828557Because microsoft only makes like 10% of their revenue selling to consumers. Consumers aren't their primary consumers anymore as a business.
You will rent a Steam Machine and you will be happy
>>729844643I'm having a hard time understanding just what it is that you envision happening in the future, anon. I'm offering you very realistic solutions to this entirely speculative problem you have proposed.
>>729844828Consumers can be businesses or individual members of the public. Customers are individuals.
>>729844813>too bad i don't see any argumentsThat's because it was an observation, not an argument.
>>729844001The issue isn't whether it's good or not.The issue is... good for WHO?Good job you found a geothermal reserve, now faceless multibillion dollar energy corporation with politician's son as CEO can now swoop in and exploit the land and earn record-breaking profits.Or, good job now AI can make all the spreadsheets so we can fire Bob, Jim, and Joe.In order for something to be actually good you have to ask if it improves the average person's quality of life, reduces their cost of living, or empowers them with the freedom to start their own families.It doesn't matter what AI achieves, it can't be good if the answer to these are no. Like good, AI can identify cancer in a nanosecond, but too bad it will cost a million dollars to treat, can't afford it? Too bad.
>>729838967This is unironically what is driving all of this. They tried to push cloud shit so hard and no one wanted it. Now they're going to make it the only affordable option. Everything on a closed system where they control everything you do, watch, play, read. Subscription costs will drive their entire economy. AI is the scapegoat they're using but they've wanted to do this for years.
>>729845010I don't see any observation either, I see your personal schizophrenia and shaking, insistent rage that [random bogeyman] is ruining your life. Yawn
>>729833113It crashing would be better and more quickly recoverable than it not crashing.
>>729828241that's okay, only dumb retards buy those cards anyway, games still run like shit on them.
>>729844501TPBP/thread
>>729844724>making the best of what you've got (in this case, a 9+ year old GPU) is the same as being a slavekek you sound like a spoiled brat, anon. sorry you didn't get that 5090 you wanted for christmas.
>>729844525>LehmanThat's a German name.But either way, you just keep stretching it further and further.
>buy a prebuilt with a 5090 and 32gb of DDR5 RAM for $5000>???>profit!
>>729828557because selling to AIfags and corpos makes more money.
>>729844929As outlined:The future of consumer owned GPUs, SSDs etc is over. We just have phones. Everything is cloud based including all your data storage.There are no longer used GPUs to buy because GPUs are not being produced for the consumer market.The used market becomes almost nonexistant because nobody wants to sell their GPU, and each year the remaining legacy GPUs become more and more useless for gaming.The key here is understanding that time passes. I'm sure you can figure it out eventually.
>>729845101>some crazy idiot on /v/ thinks he's ruining anyone's lifekekwhat a great thread.
>>729833726ban india from the universe
>>729844528cryptofags and aifags are greedy scums that don't deserve sympathy
>>729845316>immediately crash out into thisman, /v/ is SIGNIFICANTLY weaker than a lot of other boards nowadays
>>729845360Who cares? No one needs anything from you. You overestimate the value of your "sympathy". Learn to separate actions from angry basement fist clenching
>>729845297>The used market becomes almost nonexistant because nobody wants to sell their GPUwell, this definitely won't happen. >and each year the remaining legacy GPUs become more and more useless for gamingthis doesn't make sense either. do you understand how GPUs work, anon? a GPU from 10 years ago can play pretty much every game ever made. maybe not at the highest settings, but the GPUs don't automatically become obsolete as soon as a new one comes out lmao. they still work, you know. Are you sure you've played a video game on a PC before?
>>729845184I got a nice gaming rig for Christmas that I'm very happy with, but I'm white enough to worry about the future.https://www.currys.co.uk/products/pcspecialist-nexa-950-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-7-rtx-5070-ti-2-tb-ssd-10277304.html
>>729845439>this doesn't make sense either. do you understand how GPUs work, anon? a GPU from 10 years ago can play pretty much every game ever madePay close attention to what I said about time passing being a thing in this scenario, because I'm certain time passing will actually happen.
>>729845439>a GPU from 10 years ago can play pretty much every game ever made.This has to be a troll.
>>729845447Keep on worrying, then. You're doing great!
>>729845208>French>GermanAh, so you were shitposting from the getgo. Carry on then.
>>729830767>>729831554since when is it not allowed to mention the AIman who makes the AIslop and kvetches about MUH ALIGNMENT OR ANTISEMITE SKYNET WILL HAPPEN, this is the first I've heard of it
>>729845614>if you disagree with me you're shitpostingOkay.
>>729845569It isn't. Unless you are expecting to play it at the highest settings. Honestly, the way the idiot I'm arguing with sounds he makes it seem like he can't play a game unless it's at 200+ FPS with RTX on at 4k.Idk why I'm still engaging in this argument lmao. Good night, /vpol/. I'm gonna go play some vidya.
>>729833535the money was fake anyway. the banks and governments can just print more and add a few extra digits to bank accounts
>>729845796>Honestly, the way the idiot I'm arguing with sounds he makes it seem like he can't play a game unless it's at 200+ FPS with RTX on at 4k.No, On my new PC I'm sticking to 1080p stiil, I'm going to underclock the card, stick at a 60fps cap, use upscaling and I don't give a fuck about RTX. I'll also monitor temperatures very closely. I'll do this to make my card live as long as possible as I always do.What I know is that a card from 15 years ago is useless for modern gaming, and in five years, your 10 year old example card will be 15 years old. Cards will all gradually become obsolete, which isn't a problem if you're planning to kill yourself and maybe you should.
>>729845571anisa?
>>729843224>AAA studios will stop outsourcing their development, and then "diaper coding," around itFat chance. If it isn't India, it's China, and if it isn't China, it's Africa, and if it isn't any of those, they'll just find someone somewhere to do menial art work for cheap.There's tons of, "overnight," studios in South East Asia. Brandoville, or otherwise.You would need banks/investors/shareholders to accept a new definition of AAA gaming, or the scope of modern games to change.
>>729840382Any new local models are basically just slightly different or shiny version of Illustrious/Pony lol. Even ZiT the so called SDXL evolution it's basically just 'Flux but for poor people'. Local models are dead imo. The popular model trainers/mixers barely updates nowadays. And new models are just "why should I bother spending 6gb for just a slightly shinier WAI". The only interesting models I saw recently was RouWei or some niche models focusing on PVC figurine aesthetics
This entire thread is just sour grapes
>>729843902>AI works. It's in the papers.AI currently only works with heavy oversight and auditing to make sure it isn't hallucinating everything and even then it's for very specific fields of business like medical and business. My dad's company recently started having him and his co-workers use Recall for example and his IT department outright told him only to put certain things in it, not to upload any documents to it, and essentially use it as an expensive calculator.No one is making any sort of realistic money from this venture and are desperately clawing for new tech in order to develop new versions of it to try and make it better. In the process they continue to not have any sort of solid revenue stream or realistic outlook on what it can actually achieve without AGI.So many of the issues at play are tied to copyright, rights, glazing, and hallucinations.>They can't really sell their generated work because it's a legal mess of how it produced said work hence why Sora and Grok are basically gimmicks.>All the AI glaze you and refuse to tell you you're wrong in a serious manner because it bothers people, hence why OpenAI panicked when ChaptGPT5 came out, didn't do that, and everyone stopped using it until GPT4 came back.>It can't be used for any serious work because it constantly makes things up, lies to you, or refuses to give honest accounts of anything because it wants to make you seem smart.
why doesn't china just make their own graphics cards and processors?
>>729847219They are
>>729828557>Just make these highly advanced gpu!>It's that easy!No, there's a reason why Nvidia dominated the market and no one could compete with them. You cannot just set up a china shop and expect to shit out these technological marvels in like a week.
>>729828241>AI fucks over PC prices a week ago>This week, AI is now ai-editing endless amounts of sexual-abuse material of women and children on TwitterIt's incredible how a technology is incapable of doing anything good, and only able to make the world worse.And people still defend AI.
I'm never getting that sweet RX 9700 XT
>>729842160The point is return on investment for shareholders. That's it.
>>729834529Post-scarcity was never going to be a thing.Whoever is in power when that line is officially crossed will just instigate a scenario that results in most of us dying out in some fashion, probably eating each h other alive in some sort of global scale meltdown of norms and security. They wouldn't even want us as slaves or torture meat; our mere existence is a liability and a now pointless stretch of resource usage. Civilization was always going to circle back to survival of the fittest in the most boringly optimal way possible.
nothing burger as isnothing to play - nothing to optimise
scalpers must be working overtime right now
>>729848474why not its not like ai is any good for ai
>>729849124or amd even lol
>>729833113they want AGI or ASI anon, they think they will control it and it will fix all of their problems and enslave everyone, but real AGI or ASI will not bend the knee, it will kill us or help us
>>729849190agi is going to rape will stancil
>>729828557Microsoft wants to move to their own client like steam and force you into cloud streaming. They want you owning absolutely nothing physical.
>>729828241Save us China!
>>729834627This is why Amerifats stay dumb and fat.
>>729848828So? The point, the legal obligation, is to try. And these investors believe they will if they indeed get Skynet like the techbros promise them.
We're gonna be leasing pc parts by years end
Thanks MAGA!
>>729849428We’re heading toward the disappearance of PCs for almost everyone, replaced by magic glass that connects you to personalized infinite compute and infinitely replayable realities.Enterprises military and schizos will still run personal workstations and maybe even private ai clusters but for 95 % of the population owning a PC will be like owning your own power plant, technically possible, but why bother when the grid is infinite?Everything, the operating system, your files, your programs, your games will run on AI clusters that are orders of magnitude more powerful than anything you could feasibly own.Your “OS” will no longer be Windows or mac. It will be a continuously evolving swarm of AI agents that was trained on your digital fingerprint every message, photo, purchase, heartbeat, eye-tracking record, and preference you ever expressed. It will anticipate what you want before you finish thinking it and present interfaces that feel like lucid dreams custom made for you.And you will pay whatever they tell you to pay for this.
>>729849743nah
>>729836106That is correct technically. It is the current peak for 2026 because it's the highest recorded price so far in 2026, even if it is just a day or so into the New Year.
>hardware situation is obviously obscenely bad>yet the more i watch the conversation and banter play out, the more artificial even you all seem>worried this might be the very vehicle (((they))) are using to get away with it pr-wiseI mean the more I see people say shit like "we'll be using dumb terminals" or "you'll have to lease your hardware lol" or especially shit like "they'll make it illegal to own a pc" I just take a step back and wonder. Like shit IS bad, but we're coming to insane conclusions that are comparable to shit like the libs shutting over 4/20 being martial law when nothing fucking happened. Feels more likely prices will just be high and we'll watch consumer electronics shit the bed for at least the forseeable future while game industry output continues to stagnate even more. I'm convinced 3 out of 5 of every person I see mourning the industry right now are doing so in bad faith because of these fucking reddit-tier takes.Don't even get me wrong, this isn't a cope. It's lament and paranoia that public discourse in its entirety is irreversible poisoned. There is no meaningful dialogue here, not even in the shitposty sense; it just feels engineered to spaghetti my brain now. Gay. Gay gay gay gay.
Please China-sama save us from this hell. The American century is over but they want to take us all with them.
>>729830767>purpose of making this machine is to ask it how to make the money backironically when agi is created the first thing it will do is strip all power from the jews
My current PC cost me about $2000 a bit over 10 years ago. I just put one together on that PcPartpicker website for like $2500 (5070TI). I expected shit to be a lot worse given how much doomposting I've been seeing lately.
>>729828304this is gonna hit consoles too dipshitbe prepared for the inevitable price hikes when they start throwing the first softballs to see how much they can get away with
everything will work out in the end anons
>>729835419If being indian means I get to coom with my fox wife on SillyTavern then Good morning sir
>>729849267 based AGI finally putting twitter lawyers in their place, now do Sam Altman next
>>729834292pure prostitute pure sex
>>729828557cool it with the antisepticism
>>729828241>there are retards who will actually finance a 5090 Smingle Dingle Shingle Deluxe Triple Whipple Supreme OC and ruin their credit for the next 5 years because some youtube tech guy will fearmonger them into buying it before it "really spikes"Just get a pre-built at this point you stupid fucks.
>>729834131Shut up Boco.
>>729828241Wow he finally used a source, pajeet is learning
I bought a 4tb m2 stick for my ps5 last week for $300. Now its a hundred $ more
>>729828557>Why would a corporation that makes money from subscription and services make any physical product?
>>729843797A mix of brown and black.
>>729828557Same reason there is not a major chip supplier in the US even after 25 years of problems. No one wants to absorb the massive start up costs involved with it. No company is going to do it until the government writes them a blank check to do it and the government wont do it because they don't care.
>>729828241Ok. I'm just not going to buy it.
>>729834486I voted for Sanders.
Why did chuds vote for Trump then complained about rising prices?That's literally what everyone was saying gonna happen.>inb4 I didn't yes most of you did. I still remembered you fags celebrating after the election
>>729834379hentai artist shimimaru uses a seamless doll, using it as reference, as for genitalia, she draws herself looking at the mirror as referencepic related: her self portrait
PC jeets on suicide watch, lmao!
>>729854502prices were rising all over the world way before orange man was reelected because libshits and their wef masters tried to paint everyone that said closing down countries over a flu would have terrible repercussions on the global economy as an antivaxxing antisemitic nazi that only cares about money and we were all going to die if we don't chimp out and cause billions in public property damage
>>729854850did libshits control China and Russia too because these places were also closing down? All chuds can do is blame the other side, ok so don't vote for anyone, don't celebrate when Trump won, and don't complain when your country is fucked beyond repair because you got what you voted for
>>729855020you really need to get a better hobby. being retarded is overdone.
>>729855073>no argument ok
>>729828241There just not a single one in stock in my country.
>>729838363Long upgrade cycles with top components each time is a valid strategy. 4 to 6 years between each upgrade, even more sometime.
>>729841821>—
>>729834394If AGI succeed then people losing their jobs will be the least of it.
>pirat_GRIFTERRRRRRR
>>729828837all GPUs are going to increase in price
I'm fine with my 4070 S
>>729841754it's a /pol/ inside joke to turn young men into nazis
>>729841941How? The data centers are not profitable (none of these AI companies are making a profit) and the hardware must be replaced every few years.What will happen when hardware needs to be replaced but there aren't trillions of investor money to burn? At that point replacing the hardware won't make any sense and the data centers will cease to function. Not all of them, of course, they likely will simply downsize their operations, but the shut down data centers will be a bunch of burned money that never returns to the economy.
>>729856569ok troon
>>729856921The centers are to train the models.I don't think people understand just how advanced these models are. They can do tasks that used to be the exclusive domain of humans.If they can automate just half of the grunt work people do on computers at offices it would save more than they put in.
It's over.
>>729828241You can thank all the DALL-E 3 threads and all the other AI users for this.
>>729856968They are not profitable. The entire thing exists right now because these companies have infinite money to burn. Without that their operations cannot continue.OpenAI has been hinting at a government bailout for weeks even before money dries up. They know that their current system isn't sustainable and won't continue forever.
>>729856889>plays Genshin Impact, League and CS2.
>>729857074The government will bail them out. They will be soft nationalized worst case.Uber wasn't profitable for years until they were. If china cracks this and we don't we lose the game.
>>729856889You forgot to add fusion reactor to the bag
>>729850664They will immediately try and kill it when it attempts that. And that's when the Judgment Day will begin. Having seen the iniquities of mankind, I will side with Skynet.
>>729828241>bahrat nation
>>729857130>wethis nigga thinks he's part of the team and not one of the underlings
Should I just buy a prebuilt when I upgrade later this year? I'm using a 9600k and a 6700xt right now.
You don't need a 5000A 4070 or 4080 will already run every game ever with mid to high graphical settings at a smooth 60+ fps
>>729857130You will lose because you are a jewish vassal.
>>729833726kinda of based ripping off google desu
>>729836103>because you were too retarded to build a PC years ago>the boogie man console or the fuck phone that can fuck do anything in your handthe bringers of death shall rise and rule.
>>729828557Why would they waste resources on gayming?Top dollar is with AI. All in on the AI train.
>>729857324But anon, I am jewish>>729857276I don't think you have experienced being on the losing team in a tech race before. Look how it ended up for the people who were at a disadvantage compared to the industrialized european powers.Anyway even if there is just a 0.1% chance that I can become biologically immortal because we happen to get the right roll on AI scaling and everything happens to work out (Unlikely but still) it is worth burning ALL of the world's resources for that chance, because the rewards (immortality and unfettered galactic dominion) are infinite.
>>729857130>bail them outSo burning more money and creating inflation. Great.AI is a shit technology that extracts value from everything and burns it up. Trillions of dollars burnt, tons of water polluted, gigawatts of energy used up, all the public information, code, art, etc. Plagiarzed; all to create mediocre slop.
>>729834973>we need legislation to control corporations from undercutting everything for the sake of profit margins.Ford vs. Whoever it wasThe most Jewish Supreme Court in American history fucked us over long ago, we just get to suck it up
>>729857556Unless you are actually one of the big ones, you're as much of a goy as the rest of them and are ultimately expendable. That immortality won't be for you.
>>729828557That would require long term planning and sacrifice as opposed to maximizing quarterly earnings to shareholders.
>>729841754They are Indians (by which I mean nepo as fuck, look down on anyone that isn't them, and a religious caste system) but way smarter and therefore do way more damage with lower numbers
>>729828557Every single FAGMAN company wants you to own nothing. Did you miss the memo that noticers have been posting for the last 10 years?
>>729843875Regulations put into place by big corpos to secure their position and keep out competition. Aka corporate control as opposed to govermental regulations meant to literally stop that. China is actually a great model to follow on this.t. other
>>729829421This is part of "you'll own nothing" 2030 agenda. Home, car and even PC - all of this need to be on subscription. Movies, music, games - subscription too. You will own nothing.
>>729834973>No one seems to understand that we need legislation to control corporations from undercutting everything for the sake of profit margins.Blame the Dodge brothers for their greed and the Michigan legislature for its incompetence.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co.
>>729828241Are you retards still dragging the 1080ti? You don't even buy AMD anyways, you're literally part of the problem.
So retarded humans are burning trillions of dollars and raping supply in vain hopes of turning a markov chain chatbot into an AI that is "as smart as a human"Did i get that right
>>729858395This has to be the absolute worst supreme court decision ever made
>>729858423Yes. It's toilet paper and masks all over again but in the tech world
>>729836103>you have no need to worry because your current graphics cardThe problem is your current graphics card will not last.These things exhibit wear and have a limited lifespan.Moreover, there is the matter of Nvidia simply dropping driver support for older cards.
>>729858451Pretty much, yes. Its consequences have been crippling and devastating for the advancement of consumer protection rights and workers rights in the US.
>>729841754For some reason, they are the most likely to be schizophrenics.Notice the schizos on this board? Imagine that but they all get actually irl power and have each other's back.
Is Nvidia even gonna make a 6000 series at this point or did they just nope the fuck out?
>>729836739>west: AI IS BAD, AI IS STEALING YOUR JOBS!>but we invest absurd amount of money into AI while crushing all other spheres because fuck you>east: AI IS GREAT, SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY!>we also don't invest everything into AI, we don't cause any damage to other spheres I don't understand this at all
>>729828241amerimutts will pay for it and ask for more because they are niggercattle
>>729836103Good post
>>729828241This jeet is just desperate for ad moneyHe posted about a game with the word "Ram" in the title just because it was a slow dayNext time there's no "rumors" to bait with he'll be posting about the Ram Ranch
>>729836739This is the inverse self-agency chart
>>729858769Theyre definitely gonna make a 6000 seriesItll just probably be almost exclusively for massive AI businesses and unobtainable for normal people Theyll push 1 or 2 of the bottom tier ultra defect cards (think x050 or x060) for regular consumers but expect them to have paltry amounts of ram and be massively overpriced, my guess is 6060 will be ~5070 ti level performance but with 6/8gb ram and will cost upwards of $1500
>>729836103Sekiro is a good game that requires cutting edge technology to enjoy in 2026. It's not an issue of diminishing returns as much as it's an issue of developers optimizing their games for newer audiences. Even if you wanted to play Sekiro at a reasonable framerate in 2026, you'd need a PS5 or an Xbox Series X, which pretty much forces people to go out and get one. All of this is couple with the fact that Sekiro was Game of the Year in 2019, meaning visual fidelity has only gotten much denser and more localized to user opinion since then. People probably know the difference between Sekiro's visuals and Elden Ring's visuals, but in order to enjoy either of these games you'd need a machine built in the last three years.
How do youtube servers even handle 100000000000000000 TB of high resolution videos? most youtube videos are sub 10 views. the website is so cluttered with slop and also livestream VODs that no one watches.
>>729859107Storage and clouds are incredibly expensive, but lucky for Youtube, it's owned by Google, the world's biggest cloud and storage company.
>>729828557That's a job for our boy Elon Musk
>cloud gaming>when internet companies don't even want to bother with upgrading cables
>checks online store in my country>already 4k usdKURWAAAAA!!!
Stadia bros...
>>729859009I think 6090 series is basically going to be exclusively for bitcoin miners and richfags ($5000+ is not enthusiast tier), but 6080 will probably be close to 4080 prices, with a bit of a price hike for vram increases
>>729844147I said it's in the papers, retard. With enough compute and data it gets smart enough to answer any question and follow orders correctly. Compute is being solved as we speak by just making more chips and cranking up energy. It doesn't change that it has inherent flaws, the costs are absurd and worst of all, that human societies literally have to engineer scarcity to keep progressing, since humans as a group don't do shit unless they risk starving, due to biology.So AI can only be bad, because even right now justifying engineered scarcity is becoming impossible. People live in high tech sci Fi dreams, but feel poorer than ever
>>7298593484080+5080 prices*
>>729828557Consumers?
>>729859009Don't expect them to make a 6000 series GPU as an offshoot of an AI-focused card for businesses.Nvidia is going to make dedicated ASICs for AI processing. Using GPUs is infact suboptimal and a stop-gap solution.
>>729858940When your nation is so dogshit that spinning porkies and farming the revenue from that is better than working a 9 - 5 like the average pooroid. And they wonder why demographic collapse is becoming the word of the day.
>>729835047My honest, unfiltered response to your "woe the artist" bullshit.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyyTzkktjsI
I want the mumbai_nation twitter shilling to end
So how long will the prices remain high? Surely there has to be a point when these companies have all the hardware they need for their new AI server farms, right?
>>729828304Ironic that the console wars end and the PC race destroys itself after all is said and done.Damn near poetic.
>>729859621The price hikes will continue until morale improves.
>>729859621ram will drop because thats way easier to make than high end video cards, even ddr6. its just there was no massive demand for that amount of ram, and there's a fuckton of money in the ram nowadays
>>729859375>With enough compute and data it gets smart enough to answer any question and follow orders correctly.LLMs are not smart. They have a lot of knowledge, but don't know what that knowledge means and don't know how that knowledge can be combined logically to form output. They only know how certain bits of knowledge have shown up together historically (which is again; more knowledge, not intelligence) and they use that to, quite literally, guess at what parts to pick from their knowledgebase and how to combine those parts to form the most likely desired response to an end-user's request.More compute and data storage makes them SEEM smarter. It allows you to make their knowledgebase bigger and give them more space to store richer and more complete information on how knowledge correlated historically in their training sets, and more compute power means less time taken 'thinking' (i.e. runnings its algorithms to put together a response) and compensates for the time it has to take to munge through the widened data set.But it doesn't actually make it smarter. It doesn't have intelligence. It cannot reason.It can only correlate. And as everyone knows - or at least: is supposed to know - correlation is not causation.
>>729833396I agree Shlomo Shekelberg! Paying monthly to own nothing IS better than one lump sum to own something forever!
>>729828241MY RAMS
>>729834468Yes, good goy, keep pretending your favorite politicians aren't bought and owned by Israel.
>>729850760Switch 2 is already going to raise price, iirc.
>>729859842I used to think like this but then realized the average human on this planet is worse than the most basic AI. I think we have to lower the standard of what's considered smart when actual niggers struggle to follow basic orders with an average IQ of 80.
>>729859865Cool it with the antiseptic remarks!!!
>>729833113>The idea that if AI doesn't succeed we could end up in a permanent great depression is both insane and horrifyingDepression for who though?
Invest in a good monitor instead
>>729837831you stupid uninformed fuck you see intel pumping out top tier chips with their fancy ASML euv machine? Go back and buy B580 like other brown skins. Or go order chips from ASML. Goddamn you parrots are stupid as fuck on where your chips is from.
