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Kojima does not know what MGS2 was about
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>>729835896
How the fuck did he know
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>>729835896
>from the creator of METAL ROD UP MY ASS 6...
>...JIMBO KOCKTAIL presents...
>...SPLATTERED PENIS
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>>729835896
Quite sure he doesn't, you're supposed to kill bunch of metal gears in the end.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvYrg2JGwSQ
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>>729835896
this guy is like an actual troon like I've never seen a "male" with such a primal necessity of attention whoring at every single vector of existence. This nigger can't pass a minute without trying to beg for crumbs of attention online.
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>>729835896
You didn’t need AI for memes and fake news to take on lives of their own
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>digital data awakens to a will of its own
>not ai
uhhh
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>>729835896
Isn't that just AI but in a word salad?
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>>729835896
No he's right it's about digital society as a whole AI is just le midwit's view. There was already a ton of information denial and control without AI
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>>729837130
>>729837139
It’s about the post-truth society
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>>729835896
Tanebe and Sakamoto spent over a decade ruining metroid just trying to mimic this asshole.
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>>729835896
Kojima actually invented AI.
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Reminds me of how the author of Fahrenheit 451 was told his own interpretation of his book was wrong
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>>729837130
>>729837139
you have to be 18 years of age or older to post on 4chan
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>>729835896
AI with extra steps
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>>729837698
you should also not be a faggot to post but here you are
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>>729837698
In MGS2 Arsenal Gear is an AI doebeit
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>>729837698
I don't think you realize how old MGS2 is. I was born 6 years after it released and I'm 18.
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Crazy how so much of japan's media leading up to 2000s was "AIEEEEEEEE TECHNOLOGY IS YOKAI" they had haunted cellphones, haunted computers, haunted laptops, every gadget that wasn't nintendo was always haunted. Haunted VHS. Haunted rice cooker.
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>>729835896
it wasn't ABOUT ai, it just had an ai in it.
the ai was worried that its controlled narrative was going to be ignored and drowned out by the rise of the internet.
you could basically replace the ai with "deep state" and everything still works.
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>>729835896
>ai bad
>decades pass and your desire to replace your entire studio with a computer grows daily
>uhh actually
It's not really surprising he believes himself and the circle of hollywood celebrities he pays to be around him are solely responsible for his games.
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>>729835896
>It was a future I didn't want to see, but sadly, we are heading in that direction because I want to use it for upcoming games. My name is Creative Changeopinionman, and please look forward to my next invention: DIGITAL camera
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4chan is getting retarded again
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>>729835896
>>729837139
Obviously he has been replaced by AI. It is the only answer. He was too close to the truth. Watch next for Oda…
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>>729835896
The real Kojima got replaced with a double sometime during the development of MGS5.
It makes sense the impostor wouldn't know about the intent behind MGS2.
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>>729838335
Gonna be very funny to watch keighley do a 180 on him.
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>>729837264
if you mimicked MGS with metroid, it would have been good. japs just death gripped metroid aesthetic to death instead of putting it in 3d space. all you had to do was make half of a halo but nintendo is always incapable of making big levels for their darling franchises.
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>>729837473
he invented the camera!
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>>729837139
I'd argue it's more about online discourse, social media, echo-chambers (like this site, reddit, and virtually anywhere else these days,) and 24/7 astroturfing than AI.
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>>729837130
real ai isn't nearly that cool
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>>729835896
No, that’s very much what MGS2 was about. AI was a very small part of it.
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>>729837130
>Because digital data can only mean AI
Your own post is a digital data, retard.
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>>729839017
>echo-chambers
4chan isn't an echochamber
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>>729835896
It as about memes
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>>729835896
The S3 program...
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>>729839397
lol
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>>729835896
Kojima is a hack.
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>>729839452
>>729839463
Thanks for proving my point
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>>729839397
So true!
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>>729838768
>if you mimicked MGS with metroid,
OTHER M AS IN "MOTHER", BAKA!
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>>729835896
>Kojima does not know what MGS2 was about
Don't be a fucking moron. You can't be arguing against someone who CREATED MGS2
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>>729835896
YOU don't know what MGS2 is about and you don't know what Kojima is about either
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>>729837065
I love how Hideo Kojima innocently takes food pics, celebrity pics, talks about movies and shows he watches and somehow is able to make people seethe

On top of it all he doesn't even speak English
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>>729835896
I'm tired of pretending Metal Gear was good on purpose. It was good because he ripped off a bunch of 80's hollywood shit and had hot chicks in catsuits. All of the stupid weeaboo Evagelion bullshit philosophy is just window dressing you ignore to get to the guys in cyber ninja suits battleing giant robots.
Kojima isn't a genius. He's japanese George Lucas. He got lucky he had people around him early on to make his crazy shit palatable.
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>>729840967
>I'm tired of pretending Metal Gear was good on purpose. It was good because he ripped off a bunch of 80's hollywood shit
Shut the fuck up dumbass. Learn what being inspired by actually means. The process of art creation has ALWAYS stemmed from someone elses work somehow and creating your own spin.
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i own all the metal gear games on steam...i even have mgs4 on my emulator...

but i'm a fool for thinking i could ever "solve" any of the games. Metal Gear is a game about hiding. finding the hidden game is going to be almost impossible in mg/mgs...ESPECIALLY when the stakes were high in mgs2 where the Twin Towers blew up predicting 9/11
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>>729841036
Fucking this. So much this.
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wasnt it the case that kojima didn't even write a lot of mgs1 and mgs2
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>>729841035
Stop worshipping other men.
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>>729835896
>mgs2 wasn't about AI
>it was about memes that become AI
how does one dude jobber so much
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>>729841036
>mgs2 where the Twin Towers blew up predicting 9/11

qrd?
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>>729841153
Strawman fallacy. Kill yourself
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>>729841182
AHEM. "ORIGINALLY" the Twin Towers blew up in Metal Gear Solid 2, but 9/11 happened during it's development...so Kojima says he cut the scene and removed it from the game.

But MGS2 also says "I lied to you. But I wanted to be caught" and so i'm catching Kojima on his lie. I think that scene does exist inside of mgs2's hidden game.
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wasn't it about the whole mission being fake and just a test for being able to control an individual down to his thoughts, in this case the colonel and rose being raiden's imagination for the ai speaking to him using his nanomachines
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>>729841285
The towers didn't blow up, the crash into the skyline was more clear
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>>729840924
>somehow is able to make people seethe
The dude does strike me as something of an egotistical asshole. Dude always puts his name first and foremost in all his games and really tries to emphasis that they're "works of Hideo Kojima" and "written and directed by Hideo Kojima" like he's some kind of solo dev doing all the work when in reality he's just a simple idea guy with somewhere around 500 actual developers making the game. Then there's his eternal seething about not making it as a big time Hollywood director which is made manifest in his games through stupidly lengthy cutscenes in his games because by god if he can't bring his shitty movie ideas to the silver screen he's gotta bring it to the vidya screen.
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>>729837554
Well in his defense it wasn't about censorship and he flat out dropped a 2000 word essay with his thesis in the middle of an already very short novel. The novel was more than 1% that explicit essay.

There was no dictum, no declaration, no censorship, to start with, no! Technology, mass exploitation, and minority pressure carried the trick.

The difference here is Kojima never meaningfully wrote metal gear 1-3, it was all Tomokazu's ideas and labor he took credit for. Of course he doesn't fucking understand any of it.
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>>729835896
I haven't read the other posts to see if it's been clarified already, but I think I get his distinction here.

AI exists in other forms in MG, mostly post MGS2 but still, it's only when it becomes hostile is it a concern much like how the series doesn't imply tech or armed defense are inherently bad but only once used for political manipulation and war economy.

So Kojima here is specifying that when an AI grid is setup to monitor and manipulate physical society by creating virtual testing and staging grounds and then projecting the results onto real people and places is when it becomes an issue.

It's sort of a pointless distinction given most fears about AI are inherently around misuse, but I get why he's clarifying that he was not anti-AI and doesn't see the MG series presenting that either.
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>>729838143
That's just an extention of shinto culture still being relevant though, no? There were still very much alive practitioners and they viewed all objects that way. With tech and electronics specifically prone to unique and particularly unexplainable defects and failures to the average end user that attitude was inevitable.
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>>729841738
>Dude always puts his name first and foremost in all his games and really tries to emphasis that they're "works of Hideo Kojima" and "written and directed by Hideo Kojima"
He's literally the Captain of the ship. He has to monitor, and check everything under the hood of his games. He's ultimately responsible for EVERYTHING. If the game sucks, who do they point the finger? It's a double edged sword, they blame him for everything.
>The dude does strike me as something of an egotistical asshole.
Fuck you. Having an ounce of confidence some fucking nigger always has to humble someone, for no reason. He can act however he wants to act.
>like he's some kind of solo dev doing all the work when in reality he's just a simple idea guy with somewhere around 500 actual developers making the game.
You and plenty of retards only think this because you're just annoyed by him. Not one employee spoke bad about Kojima. 120+ people worked on Death Stranding. And half of them were from Konami. Literally left with him.
>Then there's his eternal seething about not making it as a big time Hollywood director which is made manifest in his games through stupidly lengthy cutscenes in his games
I can't even imagine you reading a fucking book. You ADHD riddled nigger. Learn to sit down and just enjoy something. So many games require you to read and none of you niggers say go pick up a book.
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>>729839397
4chan isn't an echo chamber
>how bout them apples
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>>729835896
Death of the author isn't always relevant but it is here. Just like Ray Bradbury will insist that Fahrenheit 451 is actually about the evils of television, not censorship.
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>>729842142
What about the apples?
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>>729835896
Because he never wrote the story, he fired the guy because MGS2 was anti-american/jew. Kojimbo wanted to get into Hollywood like where he is now with his endless casting couch whores.

Its funny he shook hands with a jew and then his world changed after giving that hack sutherland a nice pay for a phoned in performance.
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>>729841219
No true anon would use a strawman fallacy accusation to defend their argument.
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>>729842091
Goty status?
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>>729835896
you're retarded
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>>729840924
I don't care about any of his social media posts. His games are simply bad. Trash. Poorly made. poopoo for 12 year olds and loser incels who are scared of talking to other people.

Can't wait for all you millennials to leave the gaming industry already.
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>>729842176
Another filtered retard. Actually read what Bradbury wrote. As in absorb the words. By the time the censorship happens society has already fallen. You're hung up on the symptom of the disease.
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>>729835896
Did Kojima actually write MGS2? Or does he just take credit for everything like with every character he's ever "created"
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>>729839370
>>729837698
it is ai you retard
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>>729840924
you are seething you retarded turd
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>>729839397
Fucking retard.



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