Nothing outside of the original matters
Yeah, but the knowledge that they were dumb enough to keep making more causes me physical pain from time to time.
Loved OG in 90s, bought Remake day 1, bought Rebirth day 1 and will buy the 3rd part day 1
>>729855150goy cattle
>>729855025>final fantasy>about 100 of these "games"?
>>729855423it's the final fantasy but it's still goinguse your head nigga
>>729855025If the final fight against Sephiroth is inside Cloud's imagination then why is Sephiroth shirtless?
>>729855423Almost died laughing. You should be on stage
>>729855496Because the primary reason Sephiroth can invade Cloud's mind is via the Jenova cells he's been infected with. And Sephiroth can dictate his appearance. Meaning it was Sephiroth who made himself shirtless, not Cloud
>>729855556So why did Sephiroth take his shirt off?
>>729855343Sorry for not being cynical boomer.
>>729855707In Japan, men settle their differences by taking their clothes off.
>>729855707He’s wants to fuck Cloud
hell, the original doesn't even matter. No one under the age of 35 gives a shit about it.
>>729855150>bought Remake day 1, bought Rebirth day 1I notice you just say that you bought them but you don't say that they are good
Regardless of what happens in part 3 it will be defended to the death by people who would have loved it no matter what. All you want is more time with the characters. It doesn't matter if it's tedious, boring, nonsensical, badly written, insulting to your intelligence, utter trash. They could make a 100 hour game set in Seventh Heaven and you'd like it, because you get more time with the characters. At some point fans like you became obsessed with the characters, but don't actually care about the story or the game they're in.Is AC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is BC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is CC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is DC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.Is 7R good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
>>729857460Ah yes, the Kiryu Kazuma solution to problems.
>>729857642
>>729857642But the characters were handled horribly in AC, BC, CC (minus Zack), and DC.7R1 and 7R2 handle them the best they've ever been handled, next to OG.
>>729857783Yet you still consumed all that shit where the characters were handled horribly because you wanted to spend more time with them.Why did you watch AC? Why did you play DC?
>>729857849I did not.I only fully played CC and 7R1 and 7R2.I either watched or dropped the others.It makes no sense to play a game to spend more time with the characters if the characters are handled piss poorly.
>Final Fantasy >There's Advent Children
>>729857783>7R1 and 7R2 handle them the best they've ever been handled
>>729858074correct
>>729855025If only it didn't look so bad. FF7 might possibly be the single worst looking game out of all those early 3D titles from the mid to late 90s. It's a shame because FF 8 and 9 look alright and FF1-6 are timeless because they are in 2D. It's really only FF7 that has these cursed ugly ass graphics out of the entire franchise.
>>729858117Flanderized slop made to appeal to Kingdom Hearts fanatics.
>>729858228nice buzzwords
>>729857261There is nothing wrong with enjoying games, but also nothing wrong with calling out bad remakes, or "sequels". It's not just the fact they still try to push constant "It's sequel with time travel but on og world", but the sheer laziness, lack of imagination, and missing the point completely.If you can give a pass to time jannies, if you can give a pass to Advent Children's Sephiroth x Cloud fanfic shit, if you can give a pass to not having more to explore in Midgar, if you can give a pass all the mtx shit(but choco bar for unlocks and other more blatant mtx), if you can give a pass to repetitive "collect 15 bear asses"-content, AND if you can give pass to worse story which takes longer to develop and costs $70-80 x 3 to get the whole story, then I guess you can enjoy it?And I don't need to even touch Rebirth. Just mentioning what they did to Dyne's death scene should be enough. What an absolute joke with forced random combat shit etc.I just don't understand how someone can defend such rape of a good story. And throw money at Square because they own brand you like.Blind fanboyism that supports corpos is one of the most embarrassing things there is.
Eternal reminder you niggers begged for this remake.Some of us told you not to.
>>729858763The first two hours are so fucking goodThen those fucking ghosts show upCouldn't even be polite about it, they interrupt the very first scene with Aerith meeting Cloud They turn that into a fucking goofy comedy bit
>>729858763It's not what I expected (I expected a true remake, not a pseudo-sequel), but what we got is pretty damn great.I still want a true remaster/remake at some point with the old mechanical systems though.
>>729855025i miss the original ff7 character design bros
>>729858178the use of ugly is interestingif you are talking explicitly about the 3d stuff in terms of fidelity, i guess the overworld 3d and the lego field models are objectively "bad" but the blank lego models have a certain charm to them. the pre rendered backgrounds looked amazing and the battle screens are still cool. considering the game overall, i wouldn't say it's the worst looking gameon the whole aesthetically, i'd probably try to argue that ff8 is the uglier game regardless even if some aspects of have a higher level of detail
>>729858763I just wanted a remake that would've given me more info about the world and used it to advantage.Imagine if you could explore Midgar? Imagine if it was an actual sequel or spin-off where you just travel?R trilogy instead gave us more Advent Children tier story, Action focused combat and... Better graphics.Worldbuilding took a hit. Writing got shittier than ever, and character development is a mixed bag at best. Yeah good for porn with the new models but I'm really running out of positives here.But anyway, it's monkeys paw at its best. I have no idea how people like it so much and it makes me consider majority hasn't even finished OG or thought that "it was too complicated".
>>729859142nta but if you put the 7 field models next to the 8 field models, it's not even a question that the 7 field models look worse.its part of why people have wanted a true remaster of 7 (and not the quarter-assed 8 remaster effort either) which we didn't get
>>729857783>Zackfag detectedOpinion discarded. I hope Zack gets permanently erased from the franchise.
>>729859229not a Zackfag, he feels like a self-insert in some girls' fanfiction, even though he technically is not.but he was enjoyable.he had no real personality in OG to ruin.
>>729855496cloud is so strong he can even beat his own gay thoughts
>>729855025Yep, extended universe in Final Fantasy (and most media, really) is all trash.
>>729859325the final omnislash is a metaphor for him slamming shirtless seph's ass
>>729859224ff8 is trying to too hard to look good to its own detriment, the models are a squashed pixelated uncanny valley mess. ff7's models unironically just work better because they are a blank canvas, the tone is set by largely by the score. with 8, your brain is engaged trying to work out what the unrecognisable faces of the hollow ghoulish models are tying to conveypeople clamouring for an ff7 remaster didn't know what they are asking for. the soul and the character of that game is derived from the prerendered backgrounds and the soundtrack
>>729858763It's not even a remake, it's a Compilation time travel sequel.
>>729859814>ff7's models unironically just work betternot a single person who didn't play 7 as a kid thinks this dude. that's rose-tinted glasses nostalgia at playit doesn't bother me either, but got to be honest with yourself
>>729859224i think parasite eve did the full scale field models thing better than 8, by having much simpler designs for its characters. big simple color blocks and all that.
>>729860140I'd very much agree with that
>>729855025basedin the original Yuffie was the only asian MC and Tifa had a white german father.don't know why advent children and all this other gay shit makes everyone look as asian as possible.
>>729860213>>729860140parasite eve was in development a year before or more also.looks way better and purposefully zooms out a lot on fights, giving illusion of better graphics.8 looks rough all around desu.PE still looks pretty good especially relative to the time.
>>729855025Absolutely correct.That being said the other continuities are fun curiosities, when you keep in mind they're not canon.VII + Last Order + Before Crisis + the interview clarifying anything, that conflicts with VII is not true. This is a fun alternative, where things are even more grey and all characters except Cloud and Red XIII are in character. VII is respected and few things you might've wondered in VII get clarified.VII + LO + BC + Advent Children + Dirge of Cerberus + Crisis Core + the novels and animations. Utter garbage, but I would be lying if they didn't, when a decade had passed since I saw DoC's secret ending, finally make me curious and interested in what that RPG sequel, VII-2, would've been, which they used the entire Compilation setting up. I mean at this point I want to know what the threat is, that Gackt finally needed to wake up for and if they'd use any of the three (3) resurrection methods on Aerith or if it was just bullshit.Remake. Abysmal. I don't give a shit, nothing matters and the characters and world aren't the same plus they're also irrelevant, because it's a meta story. I will also say it makes me even angrier, since I know the entire Compilation, so they can poke at me from every direction.>>729857783>CC (minus ZackHe's awful there and was much better in VII and especially in Before Crisis and him losing the character improvements from there is a tragedy.
>>729855150Based Remake trilogy enjoyer.
>>729855025Man... all most people wanted was a faithful remake with better graphics, maybe a few easter eggs thrown in. Nobody asked for this kingdom hearts timejanny horseshit. It's absolutely insane how Squeenix can fuck up the easiest wins known to game development every single time.
>>729859142>the pre rendered backgrounds looked amazingi'm playing this game for the first time now and i have gotten stuck more than 10 times just trying to figure out what the developers were going for with mapping the matte painting with the collision geometrya lot of the time its so abstract you really have to use your imaginationthis game came out after resident evil 1, in which i never had this problem, but maybe that's because it had so many camera angles, whereas in ff7 you just get the one matte painting per area
>>729860435>him losing the character improvements from there is a tragedy.What was he like in BC?
>>729860529can't really say "trilogy" enjoyer just yet, 3rd one is still being waited on.
>>729858074>Red dancingHoly kino.To top it off, the hyper faggotry was removed. Remake is just that based.
>>729855025>Nothing outside of the original matters>>729855025>Nothing outside of the original matters>>729855025>Nothing outside of the original matters
>>729855025>there were mods that tried to make all the characters look like this in-battle>they long since disappeared from the net because of lack of maintenance in favor of MUH HD mods all over the fucking place
>>729855025They had one job and they completely fucked it up in the pursuit of modernizing every aspect of it, subversion for the sake of it, and appealing to newcomer casual normies. It couldn't be more retarded
>>729860757Unironically the 7 Ever Crisis models and backgrounds look great. It's a complete shame it's for a gacha and not used in a true remaster.
ff7 remake is extremely underratedff7 rebirth is extremely overratedff7 og is uncslop
>>729860829Ever Crisis is a standing testament at least on the artistic and asset design style of things that "we have to remake VII to look like Advent Children and fill out an entire explorable world for every square inch, but it's just too BIG and can't FIT IN ONE GAME" was a gigantic crock of absolute shit that they cooked up to justify itself. Yeah, it doesn't have every scene, every area, but there's enough there to highlight that the entire remake trilogy's approach is basically vanity and using VII to dress up what may as well be Final Fantasy XVII.
>>729860829>>729860949I can live on for at least a few more years under the delusion that 7EC doubles as a way to creates assets that can be reused for and help fund an eventual actual remasteri know it's not what it is, but I can pretend
>>729858763People begged for a remake of the original game because the compilationslop was terrible. SE gave us more compilationslop.But yes people were retarded to expect anything good from SE.
The original also doesn't matter.
You think so?
>>729860608But you will enjoy the 3rd part no matter what so why not call yourself a trilogy enjoyer
>>729861195why would you think that? no clue until it's out.i enjoyed the first two Mass Effects, then 3 dropped the ball hard. not assuming shit until i play something myself
>>729861260What could happen that would make you call it bad?
>>729860576They kept and acknowledged him as a confident, smart and benevolent womanizer with no downplaying it. He's also self aware about the fact that he's working for Shinra, who aren't that nice and that his job isn't that ethical either. They gave more emphasis to his camaraderie and added greatly respecting comrades, who had fallen.
>>729855025who the fuck plays this shit
>>729858763I never asked for FF7 Remake, but I got what I asked for anyway.
>>729861310lot of stuff I imagine. aerith being brought back to life would be a big one. i've found that devs can surprise us with how bad they can make something, in ways you wouldn't predict.hoping it wont' be the case and I'll enjoy it, but we'll see.
>>729861384tifa simps can't stop the inevitableaerithlives
>>729861337It broke new ground, play it with new eyes and see why its called one of best games youl will play.
>>729861340Anyone who is happy with 7R would have been happy with whatever they got.
>>729861535I can only play it with my dick because of Tifa :(
>>729861526not a tifa simp, i don't particularly care who his "true love" is or whatever. i just think it's too important of a central theme of 7 to abandon is all.
>>729861526I wonder if SE will add multiple endings to Part 3, including an ending where you can save Aerith.
Damn Barret, you might need those stairs.
>>729861623The theme of loss has already been abandoned.
>>729861946great titties
>>729861623death isn't a central theme though. You've slashed dozens of enemies and they disappear into green glow.ff7 is about unfufilled dreams.
>>729862071This
>>729862026don't agree with that.and it's both loss and faith, i'm more speaking of. not just loss.she's too important of a character to reduce to solely as a prize for Cloud
>>729862173Actually FF7 lore experts have already deduced that Aerith's death never even mattered to to plot. She actually hardly matters to the story at all. The main character is actually Tifa and the entire story of FF7 is about Cloud and Tifa being a couple in love.It's important to know how little Aeith's death matters in FF7 before part 3 comes out so that we can be prepared to like it no matter what. If she lives or dies, neither will be bad. It will be good no matter what happens.
>>729862026>Aerith dead>Jessie dead>Wedge dead>Dyne dead>the theme of loss has been abandonedNigger, play the game.
>>729858074If this scene were in the original he wouldn't have been a bench warmer for me
>>729862327don't really agree with that personally, but not for me to step on how you enjoy things really
>>729862327I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or if you are a real fan of this trash
>>729860562mgs delta is faithful as it gets and it's still boring to play compared to the originalgamers want a faster horse
What does the Lifestream even do?
>>729860562>Muh normalfag sheeple golems didn't ask for itNot an argument.
>>729862495apparently hates immigrants and refuses them entry into itself (Gi)
>>729862495It creates cognitive head spaces
>>729855150BAAAAAAAAAAAASED
>>729862327>>729862148>>729861562>>729861310>>729861195>>729857849>>729857642What a life
>>729862463People were always going to complain no matter what SE did. But thankfully there are a lot of people like you and I who would be praising and defending them no matter what they did. So it balances out.
>>729857642Every single time. Now we just need Barry and Misao schizo and it's a family reunion
>>729862649>linking every posts you dislike but have no rebuttal forWhy?
>>729862667nta but you seem awfully upset that your theory earlier in the thread didn't hold up
>>729862649It's really, really fucking sad.
>>729857642I've stopped trying to argue with this pasta because every time I did I ended up proving it right
>>729862463But MGS Delta is a good remake, just like REmake was. Nothing else is ever needed if you remake a game that was already good the first time around.
>>729862720He's linking every post by someone obviously samefagging, looks like.
>>729862790your criticism was already destroyed, move on.
>>729862735He's been using the same ammunition for years of his life
>>729860615>the hyper faggotry was removed
>>729862720What 'rebuttal' is needed to a sperg shitting their diaper due to their autism over nonsense?
>>729862796>posting more than once in a thread is samefaggingthose posts aren't even replying to one other, dummy
>>729860829>the 7 Ever Crisis backgrounds look greatDo they though?
>>729862870Nobody got mad about the blue arms shit, they just laughed at it. I have been getting genuinely angry at this guys posts for years though. Even the ones I agree with.
>>729862829What the hell are you talking about.
>>729862878Actually read the posts.The first one is his own explanation on why he thinks someone might like the Remake games.Every other one is him pretending to be a fan playing to his earlier explanation, dummy.
>>729861260>i enjoyed the first two Mass EffectsThen you're part of the problem, because ME2 ruined everything.
>>729862967I haven't said anything that others haven't also said
>>729857642I think the reason this one gets on my nerves so much is that it's true
>>729863035nah
>>729862327>Aerith's death never even mattered to to plotThe only reason the game exists as it has for 30 years is because Sakaguchi was dealing with his mother's death and put those feelings in the game you colossal fucking inbred.
You asked.I just provided the explanation.
>>729863125My biggest problem with the Aerith death is that she is the least likeable of the main cast and these games do nothing to make her more appealing. Tifa and even Yuffie are way more endearing and expanded upon in Rebirth, their character development alongside Cloud is much more genuine.Aerith is just boring artificially wholesome flowergirl that follows you around, her death is a sidenote.Even in the original game, I think LE MOMENT is massively overrated, there are much more narratively important scenes later on like Cloud resolving his identity crisis. People should be complaining about that being ruined but they won't because they are dimwitted bandwagonners that have to wait for their internet big bro's opinions on the matter
>>729855150Same, but there really are things they screwed up in both remake and rebirth.Remake should have NEVER made us fight the time jannies and the plate fall should have killed everyone in the sector but Wedge. Rebirth botched the Entire Correl Prison/ Dyne storyline. Also Cloud should have beaten Aerith like the original, it would have shocked new fans and is really important to show how unstable he is.
>>729863113yeh. You clapped when the first game's ending was retconned, when all choices were ignored or thrown out immediately with the likes of Tali, Garrus or Kashley, when Shepard lost all authority to be forced to work for Cerberus, when all gameplay mechanics were simplified into a Gears clone, when TIM was awfully written and constantly read the script ahead of time, when the entire narrative was one long sidequest that leaved more open questions than answers even in its own game, and much more. You simply reaped what you sowed.
>>729863125Aerith's death is only important to faggots who've never played FF7. it's the pizza chair meme shit with Dante. every manlet khhv faggot who doesn't actually play games and only exists to leech off the memes that crop up around them as a parasocial online community experience cares about Zack's sloppy seconds and her death scene, because these people are the types that watch watchmojo top 10 lists about everything instead of actually experiencing stuff for themselves.
>>729863267Aerith in Remake/Rebrith comes off very strongly as a home-schooled kid and very innocent (kinda hard to explain if you've never spent time with someone who was homeschooled... they're kinda weird).But the innocence was endearing to me personally.
>>729863309what is with all your weird assumptions about how I reacted to this or that? very weird post.in any case, nah.
>>729863267I'll never forget that thread where someone was arguing that Tifa is irrelevant to the story and could be easily removed, then got assblasted when people pointed out that Aerith really isn't that important in the original besides dying and holding the macguffin
It's very important that people realise Aerith's death was NEVER important to the plot before part 3 comes out so that complaints about her living OR dying can be invalidated swiftly.IT DOES NOT MATTER IF AERITH LIVES OR DIES. AND IT NEVER DID.
Trying too hard.
Aerith's death became a major pop culture moment online, but if's not actually THAT important of a point in the story.
>>729863602Verbatim quotes.
Does anybody have a screencap of yesterday's thread nuking the remake shills?Something tells me I'm going to need it
>>729855025Cloud now being a hot fuckable twink matters. It made me actually interested in the game.1997 Cloud that looks like he just gout of the game BALLZ 3D does not inspired interest in my dick
>>729863393You liked ME2, which means you either liked or didn't realize what the game did to ME1, to itself and to the IP. Either are bad.
>>729858426No one told you to stop calling anything out, retard. YOU attack first. YOU said it was wrong to like the game>I WASN'T THAT GUYThen next time don't fucking reply, cuntmuscle.
>>729863809
>>729863816nah
>>729855423You're either an unc or underage for making this tired old joke and either way you should kys
>>729863342Ironic.
>>729863858You're shocked that there are people who would buy the game because Cloud is sexy?Isn't this the "LE SEX SELLS" board where every game flop is attributed to a lack of sex and every game success is attributed to sex?>le woke game fail cuz it no sex>umm stellar blade goty cuz sexYou clearly understand the mindset.
>>729855150Based.Rebirth is a 8/10 easy. Great combat, better than KH.Story changes gave it more of a “final fantasy” feel, but I did prefer how the OG was so different from the others. The cosmic horror aspect is lessened when you have a lot of other fantasy magical stuff going on.All the cities were beautifully translated to a new era, Cosmo Canyon got the biggest glow up instead of just being a tiny compressed pre-rendered BG.As par for the course, a lot of retarded mini-games, dunno why Square thought anybody liked that in the original.
>>729863852>YOU said it was wrong to like the gameThat must have been very upsetting for you
>>729863901If you're saying "unc" I will assume you are underage for using a Gen A meme (people born like in the past 12 years)>NAH BRUH DAT ZOOMERSZoomers are nearly 30. Time moves forward.
