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Nothing outside of the original matters
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Yeah, but the knowledge that they were dumb enough to keep making more causes me physical pain from time to time.
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Loved OG in 90s, bought Remake day 1, bought Rebirth day 1 and will buy the 3rd part day 1
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>>729855150
goy cattle
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>>729855025
>final fantasy
>about 100 of these "games"
?
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>>729855423
it's the final fantasy but it's still going
use your head nigga
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>>729855025
If the final fight against Sephiroth is inside Cloud's imagination then why is Sephiroth shirtless?
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>>729855423
Almost died laughing. You should be on stage
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>>729855496
Because the primary reason Sephiroth can invade Cloud's mind is via the Jenova cells he's been infected with. And Sephiroth can dictate his appearance. Meaning it was Sephiroth who made himself shirtless, not Cloud
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>>729855556
So why did Sephiroth take his shirt off?
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>>729855343
Sorry for not being cynical boomer.
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>>729855707
In Japan, men settle their differences by taking their clothes off.
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>>729855707
He’s wants to fuck Cloud
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hell, the original doesn't even matter. No one under the age of 35 gives a shit about it.
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>>729855150
>bought Remake day 1, bought Rebirth day 1
I notice you just say that you bought them but you don't say that they are good
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Regardless of what happens in part 3 it will be defended to the death by people who would have loved it no matter what. All you want is more time with the characters. It doesn't matter if it's tedious, boring, nonsensical, badly written, insulting to your intelligence, utter trash. They could make a 100 hour game set in Seventh Heaven and you'd like it, because you get more time with the characters. At some point fans like you became obsessed with the characters, but don't actually care about the story or the game they're in.
Is AC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is BC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is CC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is DC good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
Is 7R good? No, but it gives us more time with the characters, so they like it.
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>>729857460
Ah yes, the Kiryu Kazuma solution to problems.
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>>729857642
But the characters were handled horribly in AC, BC, CC (minus Zack), and DC.
7R1 and 7R2 handle them the best they've ever been handled, next to OG.
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>>729857783
Yet you still consumed all that shit where the characters were handled horribly because you wanted to spend more time with them.
Why did you watch AC? Why did you play DC?
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>>729857849
I did not.
I only fully played CC and 7R1 and 7R2.
I either watched or dropped the others.

It makes no sense to play a game to spend more time with the characters if the characters are handled piss poorly.
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>Final Fantasy
>There's Advent Children
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>>729857783
>7R1 and 7R2 handle them the best they've ever been handled
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>>729858074
correct
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>>729855025
If only it didn't look so bad. FF7 might possibly be the single worst looking game out of all those early 3D titles from the mid to late 90s. It's a shame because FF 8 and 9 look alright and FF1-6 are timeless because they are in 2D. It's really only FF7 that has these cursed ugly ass graphics out of the entire franchise.
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>>729858117
Flanderized slop made to appeal to Kingdom Hearts fanatics.
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>>729858228
nice buzzwords
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>>729857261
There is nothing wrong with enjoying games, but also nothing wrong with calling out bad remakes, or "sequels". It's not just the fact they still try to push constant "It's sequel with time travel but on og world", but the sheer laziness, lack of imagination, and missing the point completely.
If you can give a pass to time jannies, if you can give a pass to Advent Children's Sephiroth x Cloud fanfic shit, if you can give a pass to not having more to explore in Midgar, if you can give a pass all the mtx shit(but choco bar for unlocks and other more blatant mtx), if you can give a pass to repetitive "collect 15 bear asses"-content, AND if you can give pass to worse story which takes longer to develop and costs $70-80 x 3 to get the whole story, then I guess you can enjoy it?
And I don't need to even touch Rebirth. Just mentioning what they did to Dyne's death scene should be enough. What an absolute joke with forced random combat shit etc.
I just don't understand how someone can defend such rape of a good story. And throw money at Square because they own brand you like.
Blind fanboyism that supports corpos is one of the most embarrassing things there is.
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Eternal reminder you niggers begged for this remake.
Some of us told you not to.
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>>729858763
The first two hours are so fucking good
Then those fucking ghosts show up
Couldn't even be polite about it, they interrupt the very first scene with Aerith meeting Cloud
They turn that into a fucking goofy comedy bit
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>>729858763
It's not what I expected (I expected a true remake, not a pseudo-sequel), but what we got is pretty damn great.
I still want a true remaster/remake at some point with the old mechanical systems though.
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>>729855025
i miss the original ff7 character design bros
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>>729858178
the use of ugly is interesting
if you are talking explicitly about the 3d stuff in terms of fidelity, i guess the overworld 3d and the lego field models are objectively "bad" but the blank lego models have a certain charm to them. the pre rendered backgrounds looked amazing and the battle screens are still cool. considering the game overall, i wouldn't say it's the worst looking game
on the whole aesthetically, i'd probably try to argue that ff8 is the uglier game regardless even if some aspects of have a higher level of detail
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>>729858763
I just wanted a remake that would've given me more info about the world and used it to advantage.
Imagine if you could explore Midgar? Imagine if it was an actual sequel or spin-off where you just travel?

R trilogy instead gave us more Advent Children tier story, Action focused combat and... Better graphics.
Worldbuilding took a hit. Writing got shittier than ever, and character development is a mixed bag at best. Yeah good for porn with the new models but I'm really running out of positives here.

But anyway, it's monkeys paw at its best. I have no idea how people like it so much and it makes me consider majority hasn't even finished OG or thought that "it was too complicated".
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>>729859142
nta but if you put the 7 field models next to the 8 field models, it's not even a question that the 7 field models look worse.
its part of why people have wanted a true remaster of 7 (and not the quarter-assed 8 remaster effort either) which we didn't get
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>>729857783
>Zackfag detected
Opinion discarded. I hope Zack gets permanently erased from the franchise.
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>>729859229
not a Zackfag, he feels like a self-insert in some girls' fanfiction, even though he technically is not.
but he was enjoyable.
he had no real personality in OG to ruin.
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>>729855496
cloud is so strong he can even beat his own gay thoughts
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>>729855025
Yep, extended universe in Final Fantasy (and most media, really) is all trash.
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>>729859325
the final omnislash is a metaphor for him slamming shirtless seph's ass
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>>729859224
ff8 is trying to too hard to look good to its own detriment, the models are a squashed pixelated uncanny valley mess. ff7's models unironically just work better because they are a blank canvas, the tone is set by largely by the score. with 8, your brain is engaged trying to work out what the unrecognisable faces of the hollow ghoulish models are tying to convey
people clamouring for an ff7 remaster didn't know what they are asking for. the soul and the character of that game is derived from the prerendered backgrounds and the soundtrack
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>>729858763
It's not even a remake, it's a Compilation time travel sequel.
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>>729859814
>ff7's models unironically just work better
not a single person who didn't play 7 as a kid thinks this dude. that's rose-tinted glasses nostalgia at play
it doesn't bother me either, but got to be honest with yourself
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>>729859224
i think parasite eve did the full scale field models thing better than 8, by having much simpler designs for its characters. big simple color blocks and all that.
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>>729860140
I'd very much agree with that
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>>729855025
based
in the original Yuffie was the only asian MC and Tifa had a white german father.
don't know why advent children and all this other gay shit makes everyone look as asian as possible.
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>>729860213
>>729860140
parasite eve was in development a year before or more also.
looks way better and purposefully zooms out a lot on fights, giving illusion of better graphics.
8 looks rough all around desu.
PE still looks pretty good especially relative to the time.
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>>729855025
Absolutely correct.

That being said the other continuities are fun curiosities, when you keep in mind they're not canon.

VII + Last Order + Before Crisis + the interview clarifying anything, that conflicts with VII is not true. This is a fun alternative, where things are even more grey and all characters except Cloud and Red XIII are in character. VII is respected and few things you might've wondered in VII get clarified.

VII + LO + BC + Advent Children + Dirge of Cerberus + Crisis Core + the novels and animations. Utter garbage, but I would be lying if they didn't, when a decade had passed since I saw DoC's secret ending, finally make me curious and interested in what that RPG sequel, VII-2, would've been, which they used the entire Compilation setting up. I mean at this point I want to know what the threat is, that Gackt finally needed to wake up for and if they'd use any of the three (3) resurrection methods on Aerith or if it was just bullshit.

Remake. Abysmal. I don't give a shit, nothing matters and the characters and world aren't the same plus they're also irrelevant, because it's a meta story. I will also say it makes me even angrier, since I know the entire Compilation, so they can poke at me from every direction.
>>729857783
>CC (minus Zack
He's awful there and was much better in VII and especially in Before Crisis and him losing the character improvements from there is a tragedy.
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>>729855150
Based Remake trilogy enjoyer.
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>>729855025
Man... all most people wanted was a faithful remake with better graphics, maybe a few easter eggs thrown in. Nobody asked for this kingdom hearts timejanny horseshit. It's absolutely insane how Squeenix can fuck up the easiest wins known to game development every single time.
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>>729859142
>the pre rendered backgrounds looked amazing
i'm playing this game for the first time now and i have gotten stuck more than 10 times just trying to figure out what the developers were going for with mapping the matte painting with the collision geometry
a lot of the time its so abstract you really have to use your imagination
this game came out after resident evil 1, in which i never had this problem, but maybe that's because it had so many camera angles, whereas in ff7 you just get the one matte painting per area
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>>729860435
>him losing the character improvements from there is a tragedy.

What was he like in BC?
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>>729860529
can't really say "trilogy" enjoyer just yet, 3rd one is still being waited on.
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>>729858074
>Red dancing
Holy kino.

To top it off, the hyper faggotry was removed. Remake is just that based.
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>>729855025
>Nothing outside of the original matters
>>729855025
>Nothing outside of the original matters
>>729855025
>Nothing outside of the original matters
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>>729855025
>there were mods that tried to make all the characters look like this in-battle
>they long since disappeared from the net because of lack of maintenance in favor of MUH HD mods all over the fucking place
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>>729855025
They had one job and they completely fucked it up in the pursuit of modernizing every aspect of it, subversion for the sake of it, and appealing to newcomer casual normies. It couldn't be more retarded
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>>729860757
Unironically the 7 Ever Crisis models and backgrounds look great. It's a complete shame it's for a gacha and not used in a true remaster.
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ff7 remake is extremely underrated

ff7 rebirth is extremely overrated

ff7 og is uncslop
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>>729860829
Ever Crisis is a standing testament at least on the artistic and asset design style of things that "we have to remake VII to look like Advent Children and fill out an entire explorable world for every square inch, but it's just too BIG and can't FIT IN ONE GAME" was a gigantic crock of absolute shit that they cooked up to justify itself. Yeah, it doesn't have every scene, every area, but there's enough there to highlight that the entire remake trilogy's approach is basically vanity and using VII to dress up what may as well be Final Fantasy XVII.
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>>729860829
>>729860949
I can live on for at least a few more years under the delusion that 7EC doubles as a way to creates assets that can be reused for and help fund an eventual actual remaster
i know it's not what it is, but I can pretend
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>>729858763
People begged for a remake of the original game because the compilationslop was terrible. SE gave us more compilationslop.
But yes people were retarded to expect anything good from SE.
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The original also doesn't matter.
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You think so?
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>>729860608
But you will enjoy the 3rd part no matter what so why not call yourself a trilogy enjoyer
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>>729861195
why would you think that? no clue until it's out.
i enjoyed the first two Mass Effects, then 3 dropped the ball hard. not assuming shit until i play something myself
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>>729861260
What could happen that would make you call it bad?
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>>729860576
They kept and acknowledged him as a confident, smart and benevolent womanizer with no downplaying it. He's also self aware about the fact that he's working for Shinra, who aren't that nice and that his job isn't that ethical either. They gave more emphasis to his camaraderie and added greatly respecting comrades, who had fallen.
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>>729855025
who the fuck plays this shit
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>>729858763
I never asked for FF7 Remake, but I got what I asked for anyway.
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>>729861310
lot of stuff I imagine. aerith being brought back to life would be a big one. i've found that devs can surprise us with how bad they can make something, in ways you wouldn't predict.
hoping it wont' be the case and I'll enjoy it, but we'll see.
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>>729861384
tifa simps can't stop the inevitable

aerithlives
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>>729861337
It broke new ground, play it with new eyes and see why its called one of best games youl will play.
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>>729861340
Anyone who is happy with 7R would have been happy with whatever they got.
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>>729861535
I can only play it with my dick because of Tifa :(
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>>729861526
not a tifa simp, i don't particularly care who his "true love" is or whatever. i just think it's too important of a central theme of 7 to abandon is all.
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>>729861526
I wonder if SE will add multiple endings to Part 3, including an ending where you can save Aerith.
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Damn Barret, you might need those stairs.
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>>729861623
The theme of loss has already been abandoned.
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>>729861946
great titties
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>>729861623
death isn't a central theme though. You've slashed dozens of enemies and they disappear into green glow.

ff7 is about unfufilled dreams.
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>>729862071
This
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>>729862026
don't agree with that.
and it's both loss and faith, i'm more speaking of. not just loss.
she's too important of a character to reduce to solely as a prize for Cloud
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>>729862173
Actually FF7 lore experts have already deduced that Aerith's death never even mattered to to plot. She actually hardly matters to the story at all. The main character is actually Tifa and the entire story of FF7 is about Cloud and Tifa being a couple in love.

It's important to know how little Aeith's death matters in FF7 before part 3 comes out so that we can be prepared to like it no matter what. If she lives or dies, neither will be bad. It will be good no matter what happens.
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>>729862026
>Aerith dead
>Jessie dead
>Wedge dead
>Dyne dead
>the theme of loss has been abandoned
Nigger, play the game.
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>>729858074
If this scene were in the original he wouldn't have been a bench warmer for me
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>>729862327
don't really agree with that personally, but not for me to step on how you enjoy things really
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>>729862327
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or if you are a real fan of this trash
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>>729860562
mgs delta is faithful as it gets and it's still boring to play compared to the original

gamers want a faster horse
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What does the Lifestream even do?
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>>729860562
>Muh normalfag sheeple golems didn't ask for it
Not an argument.
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>>729862495
apparently hates immigrants and refuses them entry into itself (Gi)
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>>729862495
It creates cognitive head spaces
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>>729855150
BAAAAAAAAAAAASED
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>>729862327
>>729862148
>>729861562
>>729861310
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>>729857849
>>729857642
What a life
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>>729862463
People were always going to complain no matter what SE did. But thankfully there are a lot of people like you and I who would be praising and defending them no matter what they did. So it balances out.
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>>729857642
Every single time. Now we just need Barry and Misao schizo and it's a family reunion
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>>729862649
>linking every posts you dislike but have no rebuttal for
Why?
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>>729862667
nta but you seem awfully upset that your theory earlier in the thread didn't hold up
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>>729862649
It's really, really fucking sad.
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>>729857642
I've stopped trying to argue with this pasta because every time I did I ended up proving it right
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>>729862463
But MGS Delta is a good remake, just like REmake was. Nothing else is ever needed if you remake a game that was already good the first time around.
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>>729862720
He's linking every post by someone obviously samefagging, looks like.
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>>729862790
your criticism was already destroyed, move on.
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>>729862735
He's been using the same ammunition for years of his life
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>>729860615
>the hyper faggotry was removed
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>>729862720
What 'rebuttal' is needed to a sperg shitting their diaper due to their autism over nonsense?
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>>729862796
>posting more than once in a thread is samefagging
those posts aren't even replying to one other, dummy
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>>729860829
>the 7 Ever Crisis backgrounds look great
Do they though?
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>>729862870
Nobody got mad about the blue arms shit, they just laughed at it. I have been getting genuinely angry at this guys posts for years though. Even the ones I agree with.
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>>729862829
What the hell are you talking about.
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>>729862878
Actually read the posts.
The first one is his own explanation on why he thinks someone might like the Remake games.
Every other one is him pretending to be a fan playing to his earlier explanation, dummy.
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>>729861260
>i enjoyed the first two Mass Effects
Then you're part of the problem, because ME2 ruined everything.
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>>729862967
I haven't said anything that others haven't also said
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>>729857642
I think the reason this one gets on my nerves so much is that it's true
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>>729863035
nah
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>>729862327
>Aerith's death never even mattered to to plot
The only reason the game exists as it has for 30 years is because Sakaguchi was dealing with his mother's death and put those feelings in the game you colossal fucking inbred.
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You asked.
I just provided the explanation.
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>>729863125
My biggest problem with the Aerith death is that she is the least likeable of the main cast and these games do nothing to make her more appealing. Tifa and even Yuffie are way more endearing and expanded upon in Rebirth, their character development alongside Cloud is much more genuine.

Aerith is just boring artificially wholesome flowergirl that follows you around, her death is a sidenote.Even in the original game, I think LE MOMENT is massively overrated, there are much more narratively important scenes later on like Cloud resolving his identity crisis. People should be complaining about that being ruined but they won't because they are dimwitted bandwagonners that have to wait for their internet big bro's opinions on the matter
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>>729855150
Same, but there really are things they screwed up in both remake and rebirth.

Remake should have NEVER made us fight the time jannies and the plate fall should have killed everyone in the sector but Wedge.

Rebirth botched the Entire Correl Prison/ Dyne storyline. Also Cloud should have beaten Aerith like the original, it would have shocked new fans and is really important to show how unstable he is.
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>>729863113
yeh. You clapped when the first game's ending was retconned, when all choices were ignored or thrown out immediately with the likes of Tali, Garrus or Kashley, when Shepard lost all authority to be forced to work for Cerberus, when all gameplay mechanics were simplified into a Gears clone, when TIM was awfully written and constantly read the script ahead of time, when the entire narrative was one long sidequest that leaved more open questions than answers even in its own game, and much more. You simply reaped what you sowed.
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>>729863125
Aerith's death is only important to faggots who've never played FF7. it's the pizza chair meme shit with Dante. every manlet khhv faggot who doesn't actually play games and only exists to leech off the memes that crop up around them as a parasocial online community experience cares about Zack's sloppy seconds and her death scene, because these people are the types that watch watchmojo top 10 lists about everything instead of actually experiencing stuff for themselves.
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>>729863267
Aerith in Remake/Rebrith comes off very strongly as a home-schooled kid and very innocent (kinda hard to explain if you've never spent time with someone who was homeschooled... they're kinda weird).

But the innocence was endearing to me personally.
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>>729863309
what is with all your weird assumptions about how I reacted to this or that? very weird post.
in any case, nah.
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>>729863267
I'll never forget that thread where someone was arguing that Tifa is irrelevant to the story and could be easily removed, then got assblasted when people pointed out that Aerith really isn't that important in the original besides dying and holding the macguffin
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It's very important that people realise Aerith's death was NEVER important to the plot before part 3 comes out so that complaints about her living OR dying can be invalidated swiftly.

IT DOES NOT MATTER IF AERITH LIVES OR DIES. AND IT NEVER DID.
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Trying too hard.
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Aerith's death became a major pop culture moment online, but if's not actually THAT important of a point in the story.
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>>729863602
Verbatim quotes.
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Does anybody have a screencap of yesterday's thread nuking the remake shills?
Something tells me I'm going to need it
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>>729855025
Cloud now being a hot fuckable twink matters. It made me actually interested in the game.
1997 Cloud that looks like he just gout of the game BALLZ 3D does not inspired interest in my dick
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>>729863393
You liked ME2, which means you either liked or didn't realize what the game did to ME1, to itself and to the IP. Either are bad.
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>>729858426
No one told you to stop calling anything out, retard. YOU attack first. YOU said it was wrong to like the game

>I WASN'T THAT GUY
Then next time don't fucking reply, cuntmuscle.
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>>729863816
nah
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>>729855423
You're either an unc or underage for making this tired old joke and either way you should kys
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>>729863342
Ironic.
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>>729863858
You're shocked that there are people who would buy the game because Cloud is sexy?
Isn't this the "LE SEX SELLS" board where every game flop is attributed to a lack of sex and every game success is attributed to sex?

>le woke game fail cuz it no sex
>umm stellar blade goty cuz sex
You clearly understand the mindset.
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>>729855150
Based.
Rebirth is a 8/10 easy. Great combat, better than KH.
Story changes gave it more of a “final fantasy” feel, but I did prefer how the OG was so different from the others. The cosmic horror aspect is lessened when you have a lot of other fantasy magical stuff going on.
All the cities were beautifully translated to a new era, Cosmo Canyon got the biggest glow up instead of just being a tiny compressed pre-rendered BG.
As par for the course, a lot of retarded mini-games, dunno why Square thought anybody liked that in the original.
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>>729863852
>YOU said it was wrong to like the game
That must have been very upsetting for you
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>>729863901
If you're saying "unc" I will assume you are underage for using a Gen A meme (people born like in the past 12 years)

>NAH BRUH DAT ZOOMERS
Zoomers are nearly 30. Time moves forward.
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>>729863862
I'll accept the concession fren.
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The original doesn't even matter.
Did you see what the average age of a Final Fantasy fan was? This is a dying series.
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>>729863271
Botched is too strong of a word. It was nonsense in OG and Rebirth just made it worse. RIP Dyne.
Also OG released before CERO (nip ERSB) was a thing so I think that made a suicide a big no-no so they resorted to suicide by cop instead.
Gongaga reactor was also retarded, they should’ve left falling into lifestream and tripping balls for the Mideel Cloud’s autism healing sequence only.
The biggest problems with Remake and Rebirth is they made choices fit for “full games” and it altered the story of a prologue and a mid quest story section.
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>>729855150
You were 13 when Remake came out.
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>>729863991
kek sure
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>>729863647
people actually go online and say shit like this
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>>729864035
going by MTG I'd assume 25-35.
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>>729863465
She is the group’s de facto mommy/babysitter, that’s why toons in the party feel her loss. After being beaten by schizo Cloud she leaves because there’s not more time for babysitting him.
They made her too much of a cute waifu in the Remake and this idea got lost in translation.
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>>729864162
>average age of MtG players = 30+
>average age of FF fans = 40+
not really doing much there
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>>729864240
>guy with no experience will inform you of things
every time
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>>729863125
His mother died in a fire years before ff7… i believe it was around the time they were making ff3.
His cope with loss and death is present in a myriad of ways across the games he’s worked with.
By the time he worked in FF9 he already had a daughter and used her name for Eiko.
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>>729863852
>Then next time don't fucking reply, cuntmuscle.
Anon.
You are genuinely getting angry over someone calling your brand loyalty a cattle behavior. It isn't much different from people who buy the newest iPhone day 1
>"B-Buh its diff-"
Its not. You say you buy day 1, no matter the quality. If you are unable to take criticism of your stupid behavior, aka encouraging bad industry practices by buying day 1 if not pre-ordering, then I have bad news for you.
You tie your personality in your consumeristic behavior, which is absolutely retarded. Especially when you get angry over people criticising [CORPORATION] and [PRODUCT].
Also as anon >>729857549 pointed out. It's kinda fucking depressing.
Stop consooming for the sake of it. Just
>YOU attack first.
Should be telling. When someone criticizes consooming and quality of product, you see it as an attack towards you personally.
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>>729864283
>guy with no experience
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>>729864283
Experience with what?
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>>729862495
>>729862580
It’s a weird thing. Gi Nattak’s dialogue suggests his planet was “absorbed” by Gaia, similar to FF9’s big plot point.
But since they weren’t part of the lifestream, they were refused death.
In Dirge, Omega supposedly would get all the lifestream and BTFO to another planet once the one they are is too fucked up.
Maybe they are trying to tie the Remakes to the side material and turn the Cetra into planet hopping ayy lmaos instead of just regular nomadic people who settled. This would make them similar to Jenova in at least two aspects (hopping planets and installing themselves over native lifeforms).
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>>729862327
Cringe.
FF7 is a story about a black dude abandoning a life of crime and becoming a good father.
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What happened between the end of FF7 and start of FF8 that radically transformed the world? Map doesn't even look the same.
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>>729861875
Really doubt it.
They probably set up all this shit to tie-in with Zack and Aerith showing up in Advent Children and telling Cloud to chill.
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>>729864548
Hahaha! You're funny!
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>>729864548
FF7 is a prequel to FF10, not 8.
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>>729864440
Reply to this man. He deserves lots of replies
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>>729864548
Time compression
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>>729864440
10/10
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>>729855025
Yes, except for one thing. The PC version is a fucking mess. You need to run a mod manager ontop of a mod manager just to enjoy that shit. Soon we will have the decompiled code though, which is good.
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>>729864601
oh, there's a way they could make me dislike part 3.
they have an after-credits showing some FF10 shit, because Kitase gets his way forcing an actual connection rather than just being a fun easter egg like the others want
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>>729864440
I remember seeing your wrestling drawings in past.
You really seem to like drawing girls wrestling
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>>729863465
tifa fixes the problem she started.

the problem is cloud gets his brain "fixed", has post highwind clarity and his biggest desire is to meet aerith.

tifa matters very little to him.
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>>729864685
Mine doesn’t even run anymore. The game window instantly closes and it returns to the launcher lol
It was probably some windows update.
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>>729858812
Just download mods for the PC version anon. Only played the original for the third time in my life last year (old hand-me down Piss1 from when I played it in 2003 and 2015 died), but a lot of the mods are a godsend and are probably better than anything modern Square can do. Hell, given FF17 is on the back burner now I wouldn’t be surprised if they just stop making FF games altogether once Part 3 is out in 2027.
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>>729855343
>Nothing but extremely hot women and manly men in the main cast
>Hot ass villainass
>Proposes traditional relationships by main character focusing on one female to romance or just hang out with the bros if the women are too insufferable without being a simp
Lemme guess shlomo, you think BG3 or E33 is the best game of all time?
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>>729864440
>autistic guy in his mid-40s draws like a 14 year old
Grim.
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https://rule34video.com/video/3073013/cloud-strife-visits-tifa-lockhart-nagoonimation-4k/
https://rule34video.com/video/3229489/tifa-in-charge/
https://rule34video.com/video/3683541/tifa-lockhart-a-threesome-rave-4k-60fps/
https://rule34video.com/video/3263099/tifa-mating-press-fullaudio-nagoonimation2/
https://rule34video.com/video/3073091/tifa-lockhart-double-penetration-creampie-dress-version-nagoonimation-4k/
https://rule34video.com/video/3077692/tifa-lockhart-triple-anal-penetration-white-aanix-4k/
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>>729858812
FF7 really needs that.
But considering the “remaster” FF8 got and the port FF9 received… it’s insulting, really.
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>>729864851
When did he start? If he started at age 44 and is now 45 then that ain't bad. Your post implies the idea if you're older and drawing you must have been doing it for decades.

I assume it is part of the zoomer mind disease of "your life is over after 30."
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>>729864714
I'd be okay with Remake leaning into the connection with X, not just because it's already canon, but because I'm not a cynical boomer purist.
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>>729864601
Actually FF10 is prequel to FF7. The people of FF10's world foubd out their cycle of souls can be used as power source and scientist kid named Shinra theorizes it can enable space travel.

In FF7 Remake in Shinra HQ there's a photo of Shinra Inc founding fathers and the middle guy is wearing FF10's Shinra's helmet
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>>729855496
>>729855556
>>729855707
Other than it being a trope in the late 80s, early 90s action movies for the bad guy to be shirtless, it basically embodies the final aspect of Cloud purging Jenova cells from his body and defeating the boogyman that is "Sephiroth". The truth is, however, Sephiroth has been dead since the Nibelheim incident and Jenova was running the shots the entire time.This was one last ditch effort to make Sephiroth, the form Jenova uses to stir fear into everyone because, well, Sephiroth was seen as this all-powerful figure, seem intimidating to Cloud by putting him in a form that Cloud feared the most and that was straight up just his normal ass looking self.
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>>729864986
Good one. Forgot about that picture.
Playing parts of a game years apart has its downsides.
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>>729864936
I think lying about being married is pathetic at any age, what's your stance on that?
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>>729864884
I know some disagree with this, but I honestly feel FFTactics: IC proves they can do a decent remaster if they really felt like it.
The FF8 "remaster" is outright insulting.
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>>729865010
Nah, you take is solid and would make the story better but Square/Ultimania already stated Sephiroth took control over Jenova somehow.
He’s directly influencing her and whoever has her cells. Lame, but it is what it is.
Can’t have our bishonen hot villain be a puppet.
Also by the time OG FFVII released they had a pure cosmic indifferent antagonist in the form of Lavos, maybe they thought repeating the same with Jenova was too soon.
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>>729858426
>Dyne's Death Scene
>OG has him diving off a cliff that doesn't exist in the fucking map/desert area
I mean complain all you want about the Remakes but picking this scene out of all the things to bitch and moan about is utterly fucking hilarious.
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dont talk about nibelheim
it never happened
im not paid to act as no crisis actor schizo
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>>729864548
FF8 is actually a sequel to FF3. Underwater research lab is located where the floating continent used to be.
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>>729865052
Big difference is they took Tactics in house, those FF ports/"remasters" are all outsourced to cheaper 3rd parties.
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>>729864986
The 7-10 connection is an easter egg for fun.
Only one who played with fans on the fan theory is Kitase. Others said it's not actually an official thing.
But who knows, like the R=U FF8 stuff, they could always change their minds and retcon stuff.
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>>729859190
>Yeah I wanted to explore Midgar more like my favorite game GTA and deliver pizzas as minigames and call up hookers in a booth!
Just stick to Yakuza my man
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>>729865052
There’s this whole talk about how they lost the source code and remasters are a mish-mash of reverse engineering and frankensteining other versions (old PC ports), but they don’t have the original assets or something.
But they did supposedly reprogram FFT from scratch because of this. I wonder how many mods and romhacks from that FFT fansite/community they cannibalized for this kek
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>>729865139
I don't know why retards decided Dyne's death was a valid criticism of 7R especially when the ravine he falls into doesn't even show up on the fucking map
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>>729865045
Why did you change the subject?
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>>729865045
What's odd being married? Is marriage such an unreachable goal to you that you can fathom other anons being married?
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>>729859190
>writing got shitter than ever
You can really tell how the stuff that is mostly new is by far the worst these games bring to the table. Or shit tie-in for their mobile/gacha/anime side content they made for FFVII.
Old stuff kept intact or slightly altered are their best parts.
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>>729865219
You've been using this one for a long time.
Just out of interest, in all these years, did you ever encounter a valid criticism of VIIR?
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>>729864936
My life only really got started and nice around 38-42 lmao
Underachievers thinking like overachievers is a fucking dangerous combination, lemme tell ya.
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So
I'm feeling a mood shift in the thread. Is some schizo off happening here that I'm unfamiliar of?
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>>729865045
My current comm is Daisy from Super Mario dominating Misty from Pokemon. I enjoy your little tantrum over me and my life
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>>729862858
>cites three literal scenes people had to waste hours of their life trying to find instead of playing the game
ngmi
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I don't mind Costa Del Sol bloat but what they did to cosmo canyon and Cid pissed me the fuck off.
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>>729865271
I didn't. We're talking about that guy being in his mid 40s. I think lying about being married is a pathetic thing to do at any age, I'm wondering what you think about that.
>>729865295
>What's odd being married?
Nothing. That's why I think it's very sad that others would feel the need to lie about it. I'm sure you can agree.

Or have lots of different anons just shown up to agree there's nothing pathetic about lying about being married? That would be very convenient.
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>>729865391
Jimbo, the guy who's been shitting on FF7 Remake for over 5 years is mad that guy drawing Tifa wrestling art likes FF7 Remake
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>>729859190
I definitely have my problems with Remake and Rebirth. Time Jannies / OG FF7 purists in dishrag form being the worst offenders, but segmenting the world map makes it feel less open world than the original did and everything in it revolving around fucking Chadley are next on the list. But it also did a lot of things I liked. Off the top of my head
>Motorbike and Chocobo Racing feel a million times better than the original. Latter is even better getting rid of Chocobo breeding and wished there were more of that instead of some of the other minigames that existed purely for 100% completion purposes
>Have slowly come around to the idea of real-time with pause for combat mainly due to Synergy Attacks (still like turn-based too)
>Two big questions of ‘Why do the Gi attack Cosmo Canyon to break their containment’ and ‘why did the Planet create a kill-switch for itself’ from the OG were answered. I usually like it when some questions are left unanswered (E.g. Reaper origins in Mass Effect) but these were two big ones that really irked me with OG FF7’s world
>Setting the ending of Rebirth up as a ‘failure’ on purpose and I reckon a lot of the changes will happen in Part 3. Already got this impression from Remake to Rebirth with the very small changes becoming moderate in Rebirth.
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>>729865240
The Remake changed the tone in general to make Avalanche and related characters less “bad guys”.
Most nasty things became a direct intervention or a psyop by Shinra. This has a ripple effect in many set pieces like reactor bombings, Dyne being a piece of shit instead of a delulu and so on.
But the general plot beats are still there.
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>>729865439
Wait, the wrestling drawings guy likes FF7 Remake? Fuck youuuuu I take it back your drawings are shit!
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>>729865369
>My life only really got started and nice around 38-42 lmao
based anon realizing it is never too late.

>>729865432
I think you're doing that thing where you're trying to insult him because you think I am him. In reality you said something silly in my opinion and I inquired more. But you quickly changed because you were just trying to insult some guy. Who isn't even me.
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>>729864416
The whole concept of aliens and "native lifeforms" is why I like the question of the purpose of the Lifestream. Because if it doesn't actually create life, only recycle it to some incredibly ambiguous degree, then what purpose does it actually serve?
It's just a parasite that eats people's spirit energy and then moves on, no different from Jenova. It's not good or evil, altruistic or egocentric. It's just doing what it's supposed to do; eating, surviving, and gathering information to support itself along the way.
I don't believe the Cetra even exist as a separate race. They were just religious zealots. The Planet (Lifestream) didn't bless them any more or less than their counterparts, the latter just neglected to obsess over magic and eventually they (Cetra) wrote some vague narrative about how the Lifestream abandoned them as a result of their decision to what? Not be gypsies?
To that end, I'd say Jenova is a type or equivalent to whatever cosmic entity the Lifestream is, rather than the Cetra being equivalent to Jenova.
>tl;dr
Cetra are just Jews. Space Hitler did nothing wrong.
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>>729865525
All posters other than him are his boogeyman
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>>729865525
Thanks bro I appreciate the backup. And thanks for not saying it's pathetic to lie about being married. That would have hurt my feelings for reasons I'd rather not explain.
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>>729864851
>he doesn't like french passage kino
cringe
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>>729865449
Mini games are not complete dogshit in Rebirth, compared to what they were in OG.
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>>729865449
People always say "le purist" but there was nothing pure about the first hour of FFVIIR comparatively yet people at large liked it. Almost as if the issue isn't changing something but the change being good and Nomura's fanfic ghosts being anything but.
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I mainly dislike Remake's desire to make Sephiroth seem cooler than he was in the original.
He was just a petty psycho, not some actually cool guy.
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HISTORY NIGGAS
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>>729865558
> are just Jews. Space Hitler did nothing wrong.
I got this exact impression after doing the Cosmo Canyon questline and later in the Temple lol
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>>729861946
Fuck. Really good hand drawn textures will always and forever look better than PBR stuff
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>>729865391
NightSkyPrince (AKA Jimbo) has some personal beef with Juju, a local drawfag in his mid 40s who draws girls wrestling. He advertises here frequently and we love him. Look around and you'll see a lot of support for him.
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I don't know if people have an official name for this but I love when someone does a "remake" but they completely change the setting. I can imagine FF7 as a samurai kino story.
I can only really think of one example but I swear it's been done before (Romeo and Juliet, probably most musicals desu.)
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>>729865703
I know what you mean.
Bleach is just Paradise Lost with a Japanese setting, for example.
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>>729865703
It's cool because the story and the setting doesn't matter as long as you see the characters. FF7 in a high school is cool as long as the girls get new uniforms. They should try FF7 in all kinds of different settings. I'll be there for it.
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>>729865619
He’s more of a petty psycho/stalker ex in his Advent Children and Remake iterations.
I don’t even remember if you directly interact with him much in the OG. Jenova-Sephiroth/a voice in a black screen tells Cloud he’s a puppet and that’s it.
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>>729860562
>all most people wanted was a faithful remake with better graphics
Can someone explain why people would want this instead of just playing the original, with or without mods? I’ve played enough remakes to know that unless substantial changes have been made that said remake is usually not worth it. Main basis is primarily Nintendo up until a decade ago because I never got a Switch but heard similar complaints with some Switch re-releases and I’m also including others like MGS, Oblivion Remake, Halo: CE Anniversary, the first few Skyrim re-release editions, etc.
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>>729865703
>>729865754
>>729865789
Actually thinking about it, most Japanese -> American movies do this. There's also Splatterhouse 1 vs Splatterhouse (2010) is similar too. People would completely shit their bricks though if they did that with FF7....but it would be cool if they're trying to introduce le funny multiverse
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>>729865327
Aww GTA-kun I've missed you! After all these years you still give so much of your life being pissed off that you can't deliver pizzas?
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>>729865754
>What if everybody had big titties?
I still have no fucking clue what is going on in Bleach, that being said, Tits Cubed is based.
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>>729865703
Not remakes per se but Yakuza did this in the past in that it took the characters from the mainline series and cast them into Japanese period pieces.
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>>729865685
It's actually juju, in lower case.
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>>729865846
That was never an argument I made but I saw you dismissing criticism with this routine many times. I'm glad to see you're still using it even when nobody actually says they want pizza delivery missions.
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Shit thinking about it now, I'm surprised other than Musashi (which isn't really what I was looking for). I'm surprised SE hasn't made a Pro Shogunate vs Anti Shogunate game like every japanese developer made. Seems like it's a big trend right now.
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>>729865703
That’s what that western movies guy did to Kurosawa movies and both are kino.
Also they should just reuse FF7R’s assets and know-how and just remake 8 already. A lot of modern-day scenery, Tifa, Cloud, Yuffie, Vincent could be repurposed into Zell, Squall, Rinoa.
Materia is a very free form customization system just like Junctions, not a whole lot change is needed.
7R already has a sort of unique weapon upgrade system and that ties in to 8’s with little tweaking.
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>>729865487
I mean Dyne still is a legit piece of shit and delusional in the first game as well considering instead of actually, you know, taking responsibility as a father and going back to Marlene he still decides to off himself because "i'm a monster!" Dyne's death in the original was never a "crushing" moment unless you were 7 to 11 years old, like I was.
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>>729865881
isn't this more of a prequel rather than a "remake". it's not like the same story beats are happening.

>>729865928
we've said it multiple times already but FOR FUCK SAKES WHY DONT THEY REMAKE 8. ITS THE ONE THAT NEEDS IT THE MOST. the timey limey ghost shit makes more sense with that than 7 too jesus freaking christ.
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>>729865219
>like my favorite game GTA and deliver pizzas as minigames and call up hookers in a booth!
What on earth is this strawman? I wanted a better worldbuilding with all the new tech.
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>>729865901
My bad. I only found out recently jimbo was NSP too.
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>>729865951
you should say that to the graves of veterans who killed themselves. that would be based
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>>729865916
Jidaigeki is a very popular kind of setting in japanese pop culture. I know little about moonrunes and their people though.
It’s a cool historical setting that meshes well old weaponry and aesthetics with 19th century gunpowder and industrial revolution technology
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>>729865119
Keep in mind the Ultimania has inconsistencies in every single one of them and given how popular Sephiroth became it would have been retarded of them to actually tell the truth. Playing the original, CC, and everything else, even Advent Children, clearly has Jenova as the antagonist. I mean ffs even at the end of Advent children it takes that main antagonist Jenova's "head" to transform into Sephiroth. Why the fuck would you need Jenova to turn into Sephiroth?
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>>729861875
With the second Holy Materia and the Black Materia in Cloud’s possession at the end of Rebirth, I think things are going to be radically different for Part 3. Still all-in on my bet that for the ending Cloud dies too but Meteor gets properly stopped and Midgar effectively becomes Neo-Midgar in the 500 years later cutscene at the end.
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>>729865951
anon, I... you're supposed to feel bad because of the pain it causes Barret. His failure is complete and his excuse for going nuclear on Shinra is lost.
You're not supposed to feel bad for Dyne. This is why Remake is so fucking stupid.
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>>729861946
What mod?
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Dirge of Cerberus was lame but I hope they keep the plotline about Chaos.
Vincent and Chaos being at odds is a cool concept.
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>>729866151
>t.
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>>729865614
Ya'll are just mad that you're the time jannies
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I've played FF7 blind and here are some takes and interpretation I had that I'm surprised I couldn't really find someone having the same thoughts online.
>Sephiroth "died" at Nibelheim, the Sephiroth we fight in the game is some weird mismash of Jenova/Sephiroth infused with lifestream juice.
>Humans got nuked back to the stone ages by Holy. Humanity survived but our heroes didn't except for Red XIII.
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Chaos...
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>>729864783
I checked and mine works. I uploaded my setup for you. Minus mods cause that's 30GB+. This has maybe a 5% chance of working but try it.
It's missing the Library folder so maybe create that before launching even if it's empty, and then run 7th Heaven. There's a quick "Launch FF7" shortcut but that's not gonna work. Unless you change the path. Then maybe it might work
https://mega.nz/file/BRhQTCCJ#AIevjtSJJ0uHZmT0VlhuLHegwFLgIgRyYQS1ecvTyFg
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>>729865913
>I want to explore more of Midgar
I mean let's be real here; what else would a person do exploring Midgar other than pointless mini-games that, at that point, would be fucking forced? Ya'll complain about "bloat" and "sidequests" already but yet you want to explore more of Midgar?
I dismiss that criticism because it's utterly retarded, just like you are.
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>>729864685
>Mod Manager ontop of a mod manager
huh you just use 7th heaven
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>>729866260
Thank you for the reminder that the real fans will always be more annoying than any falseflag strawman I could ever come up with.
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>>729866076
My take from the OG is SOLDIER-Sephiroth is almost completely gone both because of his Jenova Cells and second because he fell into the fucking lifestream.
Cloud spends half the game chasing Sephiroth but as it turns out, he’s fighting Jenova pieces and unwittingly marching to the Reunion.
The same Jenova cells that made genetically engineered war hero go apeshit, burn a village just because and decide to blow up a planet so an alien lifeform can thrive.
Nothing in the game suggests Sephiroth took control over Jenova’s influence in the slightest. Nothing also confirms he was completely possessed but the context made me think he was just a husk by the time you find part of his body in the Crater.
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>>729866023
Yeah I can and I have and I will continue to do so. Emotional argument fallacy is still a fallacy.
>>729866120
Sure, I suppose, but I was responding to the idiot that thought jumping off a cliff was more poignant somehow
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>>729866347
>>729865327
>Just out of interest, in all these years, did you ever encounter a valid criticism of VIIR?
Still waiting, so I guess the answer is no
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>>729866270
Sephiroth is never confirmed to have died at Nibelheim, but he was completely fucked up by getting a rectal exam with the Buster Sword.
My interpretation is that Jenova's dominance over Sephiroth (we know he got Jenova headaches from The First Soldier) was destroyed by bathing in the Lifestream.
The same thing happens to Cloud, if you recall. Tifa and Cloud fell in the lifestream at Mideel and Cloud was no longer a Jenova puppet afterward.
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>>729866367
Yeah and that shit sucks. Everything about PC modding sucks now because of having to use jew mod managers
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>>729865976
>Better worldbuilding
What would adding visiting all of the plates instead of just two or three add to the world building? I legitimately want to know your ideas on this because it's still a retarded take when people bitch and moan about Rebirth, where you visit THE ENTIRE WORLD, was too bloated but you want to go around "worldbuilding" PizzaPlate restaurants?
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I like the sequels and remakes but I still actually agree with OP. Anything they changed as far as the story is just inferior to the original.
The gameplay is mostly better, even though I've been one of the biggest "FF should be turn based" holdouts in the world (hadn't played a FF since FFX until FF7R). Though I still find some aspects of the original materia system better. Like why can't we just equip multiple summon materias still? Why can't we birth new materia? Why can't enemy skill materia just work off getting attacked by the skill?
I'm just nitpicking the combat because I actually like the nu-ATB system and think it should be the future of mainline FF.
Some of the batshit insane things they did with the story I'm already used to and those are well documented enough. Only a very small few changes to that do I like or think it's at least as good as the original.
Random example, I like Rufus firing off the cannon at the welcoming ceremony, and almost everything in Junon really.
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>>729855025
I want a Part 3 moment where sephiroth reveals he wanted to get rid of jenova influence, making everyone think he was gonna be the good guy now, but then he still is the bad guy just with an extreme Thanos-like purpose.
Or in other Words
>im not under anyone control, not Shinra not jenova, not even the planet
>and as the higher being i am, i will protect everyone by creating the promise land, killing everyone in the process; and living forever together, thats what everyone wants right?
>…right?
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>>729865421
>cites three literal scenes
They are three literal scenes in the literal game, yes.
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>>729866560
Is there such a thing as valid criticism of VIIR and if so could you give us an example?
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>>729864852
sex
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>>729866489
what's wrong with that
>>729866462
haha hey im not taking additional stuff after ff7 OG as info. that was my interpretation. we all know the ending was everyone lives happily and sings kumbaya except for those weird moments when some weirdo fucks shit up in AC and DoC (I haven't watched nor played this so I have no idea what the context even is). I just thought FF7 was lightning in a bottle and it feels like everything SE says and does now is peak retard. (I mean sometimes, I think they do put out some good work sometimes but then they'll act peak retarded in the interviews)
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>>729866409
The one other inconsistency is that none of the other party members ever actually acknowledge Sephiroth's existence. There is not ONE SCENE in the OG, Advent Children, or remake/rebirth with any other character having a conversation with Sephiroth. It's always Cloud. Also in the OG suddenly Sephiroth disappears entirely in his human form after Cloud gets dunked in the lifestream, you only see Sephiroth in human form at the very end in Cloud's mind.
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>>729865139
Anon
>Dyne suddenly is a hallucinating druggie instead of being just broken man
>He has some bio-weapon arm super tentacle thing instead of normal gun arm to reflect Barret's gun arm
>His death is interrupted with a comic relief boss fight and some SOLDIERs because...???
Like va and music are good but at what cost? It was horribly executed as a scene despite VA being good
If you think the only singular problem was how Dyne died then I dunno if you even played OG FFVII or understood the impact of the scene in the first place.
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>>729866563
My heart prefers turn-based but of all the retarded attempts of moving away from it, 7R’s is by far the best.
You get menus, you get to cycle party members with unique mechanics, a lot of spells/buffs/abilities, item-use.
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lets be honest, how many people in here are brown
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>>729866448
Since you're doing nothing but being passive-aggressive I'll just assume you're a woman or tranny and engaging in being a retard to be a retard as well.
The only true criticism that can be stated are the gym mini-games, and only on the final level that is completely luck based in each game. Happy?
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>>729855025
Advent children ruined the series.
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>>729866807
Post your hand and let's find out.
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>>729866807
Lots of browns like FF7. It's lives next to DBZ's house
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What's the difference between Tales' combat system and Project Remake?
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>>729866895
DBZ is kino
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>>729866608
I apologize, not scenes, literal conversations that only the most diehard retards sat around and waited for just trying to find something retarded. I mean props to the faggots going so far to try and find things they can relate to in the game, I suppose.
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>>729866694
They shafted Rocket Town in Rebirth so the Tiny Bronco/Cid insertion was heavily changed.
But somehow they decided that joke boss fight with Palmer slapping his ass in your face you had there was tonally perfect to be transplanted to right after Dyne’s death.
In general I really like how Barret is in the remakes. The story is about a pretty guy, his two girlfriends and his ex psycho boyfriend but somehow Barret gets a lot of nice scenes and development.
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>>729866807
Have you SEEN the credits for Rebirth? It's the pride of India.
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>>729866907
Think of Remake more of a variation of KH2’s combat. Not Tales of.
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>>729866934
Does it magically not count? Are those scenes between characters magically not in the game? I thought the whole point was that "the faggotry was removed"?
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>>729866694
I don't recall Dyne being a druggie at all, but just a psychotic, delusional man in every regard, even in the OG. As far as his arm being different and the technology there, keep in mind Barret can literally open his arm up to become a gigantic satalite bursting "fuck-you" beams down on people sooooo...?
As far as the emotional impact goes I can understand people wondering wtf Palmer shows up but the Shinra execs have much more screen time in the remake/rebirth and I suppose they just wanted to give Palmer a bit more screen time for some reason instead of just focusing on Scarlet/Heideggar the whole time?
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>>729866661
I always thought the OG ending is they failed to prevent Meteor.
It did not destroy the planet because of Holy, Sephiroth/Jenova was fucked up to capitalize even if it did.
The group may or may not have died but we all know they would never close the window of opportunity for milking them so they’d never be shown to die onscreen.
Then the timeskip with the dogs and overgrown Midgar.
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>>729866694
>Dyne suddenly is a hallucinating druggie instead of being just broken man
He wasnt on drugs, he was just crazy and a broken man
>He has some bio-weapon arm super tentacle thing instead of normal gun arm to reflect Barret's gun arm
It was to make the battle more interesting; barret even says “what have you done to yourself” meaning he took drastic decisions
>His death is interrupted with a comic relief boss fight and some SOLDIERs because...???
It wasnt interrupted, palmer fight was after all the dyne scene happened, and barret isnt there in the fight, barret mourns alone and sticks there for a while
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>>729867017
Yeah they literally removed faggotry from being the "wrong choice" you make in a part of a game you have to participate in (i.g. forced)
The screenshot points out three random interactions that you have to sit around and look for for hours on end to find it. That's a huge difference anon. Though it's cute you're advocating for forced faggotry like it's somehow better.
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>>729855025
I don't think the original matters either.
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>>729866151
Yuffie’s DLC directly ties into Deepground, Nero and Weiss so we’re definitely getting that in Part 3.
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>>729866694
Everyone is shitting and farting on you but you're right. Palmer should have been nowhere near the Dyne scene.
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>>729867316
>mfw it'll just be side content and they'll be just like "here u go to all 3 DoC fans" and then Tifa will be just like "welllll that just happened"
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>>729867316
I never asked for this.
They have a lot of ground to cover now. The rest of Disc2-3 for the main story, the “new” Wutai-Shinra War, the side stuff like the Weapons, the sunken airship and the forest Ultima falls on.
Then all of these possible Dirge and Advent tie-ins. Plus the Zackerisverse thing Rebirth barely touched.
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>>729867281
>they literally removed faggotry
But they literally did not, for they literally added not only faggotry but interracial fagotry as well. You play the OG game, there's one faggotry scene played for laughs akin to Yakuza 3's Michiru. You play Nomura's fanfic, there's multiple fagottry scenes played in earnest meant to show these people as normal. Why do you like fagottry so much, anon?
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>>729867494
Why don’t you?
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You think FF7R3 will just pull a lightning returns? kek
fuck all these plotlines, just timeskip way far in the future into an alternate timeline or some shit and just work backwards.
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>>729866691
Doesn’t Tifa acknowledge his existence when Sephiroth shows Cloud that he ‘wasn’t’ at Nibelheim during the Northern Crater Flashback sequence that breaks Cloud’s mind?
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>>729867384
Yeah they'll put in in and it'll be bad but it won't take over the game so I'll be fine with it and I'll be telling anyone who complains it's not a big deal
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>>729867537
We’ll get Good Sephiroth joining the party against Timejanny Purist Sephiroth.
Then he turns on you and the real final boss begins.
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>>729867525
I find it immoral and disgusting.
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I like how this is now an FF7R thread.
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>>729866847
advent children is what compilationfags wanted and they got it (even more so with the AC Complete directors cut), in spite of OG FF7 fans who hate everything ever made based on the game.
Think again, why should the company appease to a dozen purists who will simply turrn around and say "Thanks I hate it" for everything they do, when they got a massive Kingdom Hearts fandom who will pay for anything with Cloud's face on it?
some people hate the compilation so much they want to de-canonize it through sheer force of wishful thinking and go full XV-kun on every 7R thread to profess their love for Sakaguchi and whine that people keep "defending" 7R, CC and every other compilation thing.

why should I say why I like advent children anyway? anything I say about it will be invalidated because muh taste. consider the plot here: it puts an effort to build upon the orriginal and doesn't merely reeenact the game's events. this by itself is a good thing for me, because I'm a compilationfag who wants to see the VII canon grow into an autism multiverse.
then all it takes for you is to say "nope, the extended universe is shit so it sucks". what was achieved in this discussion? did I fail to "prove" the film is good, then? iff you engage anyone who likes the thing expecting them to scientifically justify and legally prove their taste with airtight evidence, you ain't neutral for shit.

>I'm gonna like the good stuff and call out the bad stuff. but don't you dare "defend" it!
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>>729867574
If for some stupid reason they make Future Sephiroth a good guy, he will just want to live.
He's been defeated by Cloud 3 times. He's not retarded enough to keep pushing it.
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>>729867115
Given he’s the Director of Space and Aeronautics, I think they should have given him a flying Mecha like Scarlet has for Part 3’s Rockettown segment. Hell, we don’t even know what happens to him after that part in the OG as that’s the last we see of him so it could still happen. But I agree with the other anon that his boss fight so soon after Dyne’s death was a bad tonal whiplash.
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>>729867641
Future Sephiroth will leave Cloud alone and go travel the space with spirit Aerith searching for enlightenment.
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>>729866270
vincent's still around lmao
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>>729867605
Oh no!
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>>729867586
BVSED
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>>729867779
It lost to AstroBot. Nomura was robbed.
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>>729867821
I guarantee they're building it up to be the Lord of the Rings of vidya, so they're waiting for Part 3 to let it sweep, which is pretty embarrassing when you consider there is zero passion behind this scam trilogy.
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>>729867617
AC suffers from being a mid-2000s product and all the emofaggotry we all embraced but since then rejected.
OG story felt sometimes like a more grounded setting compared to other FFs, so having memories of whoever physically manifest out of the Lifestream felt off.
Nowadays with all the cosmic magic, cloning and high biotechnology we got from all the side material and now in the Remakes, AC would fit much better.
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We could've gotten this btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwGkGecaMms
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>>729867762
in the ending?
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>>729867451
Here’s what I think will happen with how much they have left to cover
>Ancient Forest and Sunken Gelnika will not happen as they’re optional mini dungeons
>The Weapons will become main story bosses. E.g. Emerald is fought while fucking around with the Junon underwater reactor, Ultima is fought just before going into the Northern Crater with the Highwind, etc.
>Shinra-Wutai war will somehow factor into the start and mid points of the game (not sure how), and Wutai will somehow be present for the Raid on Midgar
>Above point leads to Deepground getting deployed. Might get teased earlier on but main focus on them will be here.
The Zack one I’m still not sure how it will fit in but given how big of a deal it’s made to be in Rebirth (to the point of it being the game’s title-drop and starting the game by playing as Zack), I’ve got a sneaking suspicion he will become a party character at various points in the game
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>>729868059
First time I played ff7 I used both Vincent and Yuffie; qt ninja jap girl and the edgelord.
Little did I know they barely said anything in the story or featured in 0 fmvs because of their optional status.
Replaying with Tifa in the party changed a lot.
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>>729865584
I assume all claims of wives or GFs here are full of shit. Or, are admissions to a very abusive relationship where the anon is probably violent
Because the sites "fuck women fuck fmoids kill all women back 2 da kitchen" rightwing shit does not make for a respectful relationship.
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>>729868059
yeah, apparently red and vincent hang out and talk about shit since vincent's immoral
lore shit
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>>729862071
>death isn't a central theme though.
lol wut. Cloud and company have cried so many bitter tears over the deaths of their friends.

Also, the lifestream is depicted as not only the life essence of the planet, but also as the afterlife itself.
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>>729868034
The fuck is this kek
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>>729868174
It’s just the website culture.
Like when we talk a lot of shit at a bar then go work our 9 to 5 the next day and forget about it.
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>>729868263
>it's just a joke
I'm old enough to know this isn't true
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>>729868174
I've been here since 2004. 4chan wasnt rightwing back then, it was anarchist
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>>729868195
.................................are these bot posts?
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>>729855150
Based. Boomers would seethe a lot less if they realised that the remake is a sequel not a 1 for 1 of the OG
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>>729868230
If SquareEnix wasn't retarded and kept the aesthetic of the original FF7
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>>729868431
The problem is Square advertised it as so for 10+ years.
Technically they’ve been talking about remaking older ff games since the late ps1 era but with FF7 specifically it was around that ps3 tech demo.
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>>729868295
True, and it wasn't a gathering of coomers either. The anime titty threads weren't even a common occurrence back then. It was all about the anonymity
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>>729868431
even as a sequel it's stupid as all hell. anno ruined a whole generation of gamers



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