>pokemon is getting more scrutinized because the games are shit nowGood
>>>/vp/
>now
its not good. nobody have any right to be mean to pokemon.
>>729873705Pokemon just doesn’t give a fuck. Even their Tcg uses the flimsiest materials, it’s the biggest low effort franchise that’s ever existed, perpetually living off the good will of autistic millennials
playing the modern games makes me baffled as to why anyone still likes this series. it's the most mind numbingly boring and easy jrpg that has a collectathon attached. remove the ip and all the recent games are 4/10 at best.
>>729873705been garbage since crystal
>>729873863Yes nigger.Everyone, even your mother and father, your grandparents, your dog, your girlfriend and her tyrone boyfriend has more guts to call out Pokemon than a pathetic worm like you.
>>729873705>v/ is the worldpathetic
>scrutinizedBut what is there to hate about a billion dollar franchise that spends peanuts on its main series games, which come out looking like they could run on a gamecube, filled with bugs, and with on-disc DLC that costs $30, making the true came in all its glory cost $100 because the devs thought of a genius idea to make more money, you just release part of the game for $70, and then you release the rest later for an additional $30.But Pokemon would never do something dirty like sue anyone who can make the same game better than them. Lol.
>>729873894kill yourself zoomernigger
>>729874097I never understood why people loved Matsuda when he was the director of the franchise. He is the whole reason why RBY are so buggy as fuck in the first place, because he was also handling the programming, and it really shows when you look at the GSC leaks, it had a development hell so bad that almost everyone at the team left. Until Iwata came along to clean up the mess in code and it's how it became more functional than the first games.And games after that are very underwhelming, they're all the same but visuals, even the story is boring. It never really tried something new outside of adding more monster bloat.The only thing Masuda actually did something good at the franchise was remaking GSC to have more content that are worthy, even if it didn't actually fixed it's issues like the difficulty.
>>729874550Nintendo lost, tendie.
>>729874415I’m 34, young man
>>729873705>nowThe games were always shit, they just had the excuse of the GB being pretty limited.Which is why I gave up after Gen3, when it became clear the limiting factor wasn't the hardware.
>>729875394>thinking I played Palworldlmao u tendies still let this game live rent free
>>729873705newfags don't know /v/ before /vp/
>>729875019>He is the whole reason why RBY are so buggy as fuck in the first place, because he was also handling the programmingdo you think he was the only coder you retard? He programmed mainly the audio dev>it had a development hell so bad that almost everyone at the team left.It was because Tajiri. Masuda decided to base the games around one japan region and not several one. lol and you said you read the leaks>Until Iwata came along to clean up the mess in code and it's how it became more functional than the first games.Iwata just coded a compression algorithm, Again you said you read the leaksYou don't know what are talking about shitpostertard.
>>729875019>Until Iwata came along to clean up the mess in code and it's how it became more functional than the first games.He only made the loading times for battles slightly faster, and he actually decreased the game's storage by doing that.
>>729875798Can you post the proof then?
Riddle me this, /v/.How difficult is it to make a proper 3D open world Pokemon game?The franchise has existed for so long you'd think they'd have figured it out by now. Are they just incompetent retards?
>>729876096>The franchise has existed for so long you'd think they'd have figured it out by nowthe vast majority of the franchise is shallow linear slop so they haven't had time to figure out open world.
>>729876096>Are they just incompetent retards?no they're just fags that refuse to spend money. a pokemon open world is the easiest concept ever. you ride pokemon around like in arceus, you can use water pokemon to get around bodies of water, eventually you can use flying pokemon to glide and then fully fly later on like when you unlock the airship in final fantasy.really that's all they have to fucking do is take an early final fantasy game and make it open world and add pokemon gimmicks. if they want to actually be a cool game then they copy botw a bit more and allow ice pokemon to freeze bodies of water and fire pokemon to melt ice. they are sitting on a gold mine of concepts they could easily make a metroidvania that uses pokemon abilities to unlock new areas and if they wanted to be lazy fags about it then the moves can be put on hms.
>>729876351All they really need to do is reskin BotW and actually put in stuff to do which can't be hard since they can just copy the events of the TV show.
>>729876016proof that you lied?the fact you started with "Masuda director" then proceed to talk about GB games directed by Tajiri is funny
>>729873739/v/ loves talking about Pokemon
>>729875798>do you think he was the only coder you retard? He programmed mainly the audio devMainly, he was also assisted on program other things since at the time Game Freak was *really* a small indie dev. He even admitted in some of the interviews.>Masuda decided to base the games around one japan region and not several one.And that idea was so ambitions that the development team also left, thank you for reminding this, dipshit.
>>729876674So no proof then, got it.
>>729873705Its the new era of cynicism. People just want to be edgy and cool, what they don't realize is that there are real people behind the screen of their harrassment. People with families and loved ones that were, by the way, the same people that brought you so much joy in your childhood. Those people are being pressured constantly by your expectations and what do they get in return for slaving away? Nitpicks, mockery and threats.A shame on these so called "fans" of the franchise, shame on you. I just hope that GF and TPC know that out there are fans like me, who recognize their efforts and hold dear those memories. True fans that will always be there to support what we actually love.#ThankyouGameFreak
>>729876096>>729876171>>729876351v/: OPEN WORLD IS SLOPalso v:/ WHERE IS MY PKM OPEN WORLD?????????
>>729877085Who is this faggot?
>>729873739Wait, QRD? Did Game Freak finally declare bankruptcy? I thought Pokemon was a video game franchise until recently?
>>729876981>And that idea was so ambitions that the development team also left, thank you for reminding this, dipshit.kill yourself retard.Post proof people left during GS.The only mention of people leaving is during RB and because of financial issue not coding,Again kill yourself pr go back to /vp/ pretending to do genwar shit with retards
>>729873705no it isn't people happily bought z-a and its slop dlc for the combined price of $100
>>729876096If you have the resources of The Pokemon Company, it'd be pretty trivial, but them and Gamefreak are taking full advantage of the golden goose that it is.Generally it would be a monumental task to model and animate over a thousand creatures, but that work is already done for the most part since they've been reusing them for a good bitAnother thing that holds it back is the release timing, generally I believe since Pokemon is a franchise first, game releases likely are contractually obligated to release at specific times to help shill merch, the show and cards. Pokemon games have dev times that are a decent bit shorter than most AAA titles with them only being a couple years long from start to finishThe last thing is specifically Gamefreak, who have no good reason to let go of their license to create the games, the pokemon company and Nintendo have no reason to buy out their stake unless they really fuck up, but as I said it's a golden goose franchise that will always sell so they let Gamefreak be Gamefreak
>>729877085this but unironically
>>729873825>>729873863Every new entry these days (except LGPE and SV) makes the previous entry look better.
>KIDS GAME BEING POSTED AND TALKED ABOUT AGAIN BY A FUCKINBG KIDSTFU
>>729877347>also leftI should said "almost" but it seems that my keyboard got slipped. But yeah, it should be said in the leaks somewhere, because you're so adamant for telling someone where is the stuff shown in the leaks, it makes me wonder if you did read it yourself.
>>729875019RBY was their very first rodeo and you have to go out of your way to glitch in GSC. Furthermore, RSE remain the most ACE exploited, and the ones with the most documented exploits at that.
>>729875019But Masuda didn't remake GSC that was Morimoto
>>729875394>>729875850but you did lose he didn't mention anywhere in this thread about palworld thoughBeit
>>729878261Oh that makes it even better lol
>>729877502SwSh were some of the worst games in the franchise and SV are one of the best
>>729876096They are incompetent retards but you're kinda retarded too for wanting open world Pokemon. Pokemon has always been at its best for the chunks of the game where you're GOING SOMEWHERE and there just happens to be an occasional side area like a cave or something along the way.
>>729878450Swoosh were some of the worst games in the franchise and SV are barely a step up. SV being open world is almost solely a detriment just like the wild area was to SWSH.
>>729873894While Pokémon will never die, they're going to be in for a huge sales shock when the millennials start dying off in large numbers.
>>729878959Why do people make these copeposts about the most popular media franchise in the world?
>>729879113Are kids buying these games for themselves, anon, or are they having the games bought for them by some slightly older relative? Perhaps one who wants a "safe" purchase with a brand they know?Do you think kids who play Pokemon right now are getting as positive an impression of it as kids were 20+ years ago?
>macaco thread-48930 karma to Sony, 'fraid so
>>729876981Stinky ESL
>>729877134The man who overnight defeated the #bringbacknationaldex movement.
>>729873705only one thing can save pokemon
>>729879517Your cope does not explain how Pokémon games went from a very consistent sales range of ~15 million mainline ~8 million secondary titles between Gen 3 and Gen 7 to now consistently selling >25 million mainline and ~15 million secondary on the SwitchThe tens of millions of people around the world who bought into the franchise during PokéMania did not all suddenly get a job and have kids/nieces and nephews between the years 2017 and 2019. They will also not be "dying off in large numbers" for another ~40 years, as if your cope wasn't embarrassing enough.The Pokémon games are arguably more popular than ever, and this popularity has been maintained over the lifetime of the Switch, it's not the passing fad PokéMania was. Sticking your head in the sand and denying this is just bending over and asking to get raped.
Zoroark
Claude is close to actually doing something
>>729880624ZAMN where's the thread
>>729880871ACTUAL PROGRESSALERTACTUAL PROGRESS
>>729877364>the pokemon company and Nintendo have no reason to buy out their stake unless they really fuck upWait, so S/V releasing in such a fucked broken state that nintendo themselves had to apologize on their behalf wasn’t a fuck-up?
>>729881335Not really, no
>>729873705Pokemon has been complet dogshit for over 10 years now, but Pokefags will just buy Game Freaks slop on a plate anyways, these faggots defend SV of all things
>>729878450Kys Pokefaggot SV is fucking garbage
>>729881172He dug
Release the third Orre game.
>>729881536If you can't recognise how good SV is then you're a retard with no mind of his own. You just get your opinions from IGN and youtubers.
>>729882246Sorry anon but there will be nothing compelling about a game loop that’s been solved since gen 2/3. The game has been in the same state for over a decade. I guess they refuse to change it cause it’s just a children’s game. Pokémon’s popularity is propped up by older aged people probably 20-40s. Look at one piece, it’s entirely consumed by people in their 30s. To me all Pokemon is, is a slice of your childhood you don’t wanna let go and that’s cool with me but I hate when pokefags act like they have something that isn’t designed for 9 year olds to play. I have childhood stuff I still love but i don’t relentlessly defend the franchise cause I know it’s for little kids and stuff for kids shouldn’t be very complex.
>>729873705>scrutinizedIt was scrutiny in gen VI. Now it's plain derangement.
>>729877215Game Freak are making non-Pokemon games now and Nintendies are having meltdowns that it looks better than any Pokemon game that they've ever made
>>729873705>now
>>729881536>Pokemon has been complet dogshit for over 10 years now,It's always the Unovatrannies.
>>729884047One day they'll realize there was a reason everyone was complaining about Black and White.One day.
>>729882246SV is shit
>>729884047I'm counting BW anon, it hasn't been decent since Diamond and Pearl
>>729882975>kids gameYou're the problem here.
>>729884352I thought it was le pokemon themselves.
>>729873705I don't get it, gamers are supposed to vote with their wallet, and yet Pokemon games are still disgustingly successful.is voting with your wallet a meme?
>>729881335they're the 2nd best selling games in the franchise's history so you tell me
SV and ZA are some of the sloppiest slop in the gaming market right now
>>729884732i can't speak for z-a because i haven't played it and don't plan to but i firmly believe if sv had another year in the oven to iron out bugs/improve performance while changing nothing else it'd be the most beloved pair of games the franchise has ever seen
>>729884626That was just the bandwagon complaint. Still valid though.Most people couldn't seem to articulate that it felt like a shallow retread of everything they've done so far in the past 4 games with no real sense of an actual generational leap into being something more, an actual stagnation. The complaints today about how Pokemon has the potential to be great and GF just doesn't try was a sentiment that was basically formed by Gen 5's shitty idea to reboot Gen 1 but do it fundamentally (and aesthetically) worse.
>>729873705Are there any rom hacks that make most the battles double battles? Double battles are far more interesting.
>>729873705For every forum poster complaining about pokemon like me, there are 200 normalfags buying a copy for their kids.
>>729885086It doesn't even try to be a reboot at all, remove any info if it was ever supposed to be one and it changes nothing. Hell, DPPT was the literal reboot at least the narrative than BW ever was. It's thanks for the fact that it became it's own world now, where the whole God Pokemon shit introduced here.
>>729884732Despite the massive up in wokeness that game was the fastest selling pokemon game to date.
>>729885265>normalfags have no standardsWhat brilliant insight that totally isn’t made at least a hundred times a day here
>>729885594>DPPT was the literal reboot
The decline started with X and Y when they moved away from 2D spirited into 3D. For whatever reason Game Freak is retarded and can't handle 3D space well at all.
>>729885597Who gives a shit, the game is still garbage
>>729885881You don't speak for me, you fucking shitstain.
>>729881603>>729878450>>729877502People parrot the same shit >Gen 10 was the best pkm we had in years>Gen 11 was the best pkm we had in yearsyou guys been on a loop for 10yrs now
>>729885996But Gen IX is one of the best generations
>>729886309It isn't
Gen 9 was shit and so will Gen10
Gens 3-5 were the golden age of Pokemon.
Every new Pokemon game has been better than the last one.
>>729886784Fucking kek
>>729886784It is like saying that the turd of this morning was better than my turd of yesterday.
>>729880585Nta, but the DS and home systems got rolled together into the Switch. That's where the numbers came from.
>>729884561Dude it is, get over it
>>729886883>not into progressive poopmaxxingngmi
>>729885963yeah, normgroids doshit taste having normalnigger fuck
>>729876728Shills aren't /v/
>>729886784Ruby and Sapphire was such a huge downgrade from Gold and Silver the damn franchise STILL hasnt recovered from it.
>>729887648Imagine calling every general media as "kids" media.
>>729888716But they're a hivemind
>>729885594>Hell, DPPT was the literal reboot at least the narrative than BW ever was. It's thanks for the fact that it became it's own world now, where the whole God Pokemon shit introduced here.RSE already had Pokémon forming the continents long before then
>>729873705The games have been objectively bad or mediocre post X & Y.
>Only discussion around Pokemon is about what point in time the franchise became total dogshitActual zombie IP.
>>729892012There is no point to normal people trying to talk about Pokemon these autists just shit up any convo because to them Pokemon is the anime
>>729892012It's because pokefags on this website are mindbroken over constant genwars.All they ever want to do is argue over gens 1-5, slamming the games over shit like Sinnoh's speed and Johto's "level curve", yet when confronted with the QoL enhancements of the newer entries all they do is plug their ears and go into autistic meltdowns over boogeymen haunting them like "yawnfag".
>>729892342There's not much to talk about I'm afraid>mints and bottle caps are nice>party-wide exp is fine on paper but getting attached to individuals is harder when i'm juggling over a dozen guys instead of planning a core team, feels less like i'm properly training up individuals under spread>regional gimmick battle buttons are boringI can't think of any super-duper important changes beyond that
I like Legends Z A.
>>729893961That's about where I'm at, especially with EXP share. I also think that while dex cuts could be used to give each game and each region its own texture, the end result instead is an exponential squeezing out of the regional pokemon as more and more staples make the cut. If you want to have a Lucario as your ace in every single game, they'll let you.
Theres only 151 pokemonIgnore the following generations
>>729873705Games have been shit since 2013
>>729894487Don’t forget increasing the “value” of overpriced DLC packages by offering old Pokemon up as exclusives
>>729892342To be fair the QoL enhancements dont matter at all in the grand scheme of peoples problem with Pokemon is. Most dont give a real rats ass about the raising or how actually meta/competant their team is. They care about the experience and the joy of the adventureAnd Pokemon has been FUCKING THAT UP for YEARS with loose stories and uncomitted characters.
Bymp
>>729885617Wow anon, you're so cool and jaded. If only you didn't have middle school level reading comprehension
>>729876096Colosseum was fine, it actually looks better than most Pokemon games that came after it lmao
>>729873705If you played anything after gen 6 and you're not, like, a kid then you're subhuman.
>>729873825SPBP
Why does sage not work anymore? I saged my post........... MODS fix this shit
>>729897481It's over, discord tranny.
>>729897571Take your meds, bsky tranny
>>729897606>thinking I have a social media everLmao
>>729897481huh? I've seen many anons claiming it doesn't work but it does for me
>>729879926>some literal whoSure buddy
