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>>729874872that place has more atmosphere and mystery than all ER areas combined
>>729874992Just admit that you can't buy Elden Ring or is too retarded to pirate it.
>>729875049kys ESL retard
>>729874992I don't think there's a place more whimsical and mystic dark fantasy than this. No other fromsoft game captured this aesthetic again, and ds3 turned this place into a poop swamp.
Demon Souls has a bunch of locations like this, but they never figure in threads like these because no one fucking played it
>>729875342try not being a gaystation exclusive
>>729875265I knew you were a dishonest DS2troonie, kys you fucking faggot
>>729875342where?
>>729875381Try not to be poor. A PS3 is like $50 tops.
recently started my 7th playthrough. the idea of the build is to have as high defense as possible, but what weapon should i use?been sticking with hand axe because it's light and has high attack speed, but doesn't feel thematic for a defense build. not using a shield btw
>>729874872>>729875265From gave up on this for open world slop
>>729875418try not being a faggot, it's for free
>>729875381I can smell the third world in this post
>>729875476Thank God for that. At least I have freedom of movement now.
>>729875409are you literally schizophrenic lmao
>>729875527That's even worse for his case.
>>729875595try not to make your posting patter too obvious next time, troon
>>729875670
we out here smokin
>>729875421Reinforced Club, my beloved...Hard to go wrong with the Zweihander, Bastard Sword or Claymore. Great Scythe is really fun if you don't mind going Dex.
>>729875421did a faith build with Quelaag's Furysword using the holy trousers for baggy pant drip
>It's another DS1 is le good...while simultaneously disparaging ER thread with absolutely no webms to show for itwoah omg duh mystery it's so dark whimsy
>>729876518>with absolutely no webms to show for ithow do you convey what pointless waste of time the open world in er is with a webm
>>729876446>faith build with a dex weapon that sucks dick against the DLC bosses???If you're going to commit to a meme like that you might as well just do the logical thing and go Dex/Int, pick up Tin Banishment Catalyst and actually be able to damage DLC bosses with your "slightly stronger than Logan's Catalyst at Soft Cap" dark beads.
>>729876518I got one
>>729876518>Ass pained zoomerkek
>>729876632ok but flame sword cool as fuck
>>729875409DS1 but ok 3 had the worst setting and worst world design out of the trilogy everything was grey and brown but in a boring way
>>729875621Tbf, the emulated ps3 version runs incredibly on pc. Literally better than the OG ps3 version. but we will never get the remake, which isnt too much of an issue as the OG is better in almost every conceivable way
>>729877257That's fair and honestly a based answer.I'd still suggest going int though because the synergy between Dex/Int and dark sorcery is fun.
>>729876140>SL1 Reinforced Lighting Club runThis is incredible the first time, I will always remember how fun this run was
>>729877401You could make a good argument for either DaS2 or 3. It's just "incoherent theme park zones" vs "triple-A brown and grey mush".ER would belong there too honestly, seeing as the base game is stuck in "piss yellow" mode for a vast majority of your playthrough, only being broken up by the rare "aids piss red" scarlet rot areas and white snow areas. If the ER DLC did anything right, it was making a world that was actually beautiful again by making good use of strong color themeing to make areas feel distinct and aesthetic.
>>729874872good timing OPI'm currently there to get the flip ring
>>729877861Reinforced Club is the unsung hero of DaS1. You could have the shittiest build going but you always have the option of just going to the undead merchant assuming you didn't murder him like a fool and picking up one of the best weapons in the game to salvage your playthrough.
>Reading through ring descriptions on wikidot>Realize that Wolf Ring gives 40 fucking poiseAs a point of comparison, Havel's Armor gives 47 poise. I never realized how fucking insane Wolf Ring actually is, and I have no idea why people don't talk about it more. Wolf Ring + Havel's has become my new default ring configuration.
>>729876518It's slow and methodical atmospheric kino. You wouldn't get it.
>>729877972ydbtg
>>729878035Amen, brother
>>729874872>you will never have that magical experience of exploring Lordran for the first timeWhy even play games anymore
>>729878518i need me a 10 foot tall pale dragonhuman wife
>>729878189Wolfs ring, elite knight set, greatsword, lightning spear, & heal miracles. I am now ready to play dark souls with the same build for the 50th time
>>729877750It would be nice to have the remake, though. I want modders to try their shit on the game and on the PS5 is just locked forever.
>>729878675>mods for demons souls making it even more of a megaman game. one where you unlock certain weapons and abilities from beating bossesI have a NEED.Side note, how worth it is Daughters of Ash? I am waiting for Nightfall but since its been forever since update, I didnt know if DoA was worth trying in the meantime?
>>729879030>Daughters of AshIn my own short experience, enemies nearly everywhere.
in retrospect Artorias of the Abyss was the beginning of the end of souls gamesbullshit tanky hyperactive bosses that won't even let you heal
>>729879242This is too common; people don't understand how to use placement and type correctly. That said, I may still check it out, and just run a tanky build and see how I progress. Or try the Binding of Lordran mod the Nightfall dude built previously.
I know
>>729880125Not as much as me. Those are rookie numbers, son.
>>729874992lollmao even
>>729880670hell yeah
>>729876518Get help
>>729875049Not him but I've wasted 35 hours of my life in Elden Shart, got to the 1st dogshit bossfight and will never touch it again. On the flip side, I've invested hundreds of fun filled hours into the 1st Dark Souls and it genuinely enriched my life.
>>729881110>>729880670soulless
>>729878189Because that means you have to give up on permanent 20% hp, 20% stamina and 20% equip load
>>729875421zweihander
I'm playing ER for the first time. I really dislike how open the world is, since I don't know anything about what's going on in the story and I'm not playing with a build I like AND rune amounts are small this early on so I can't change my build yet, I'm not having as much fun as I was with Dark Souls honestly. With DS though I got filtered by the poison swamp (forgot the name) but at least there I was playing how I wanted, and with Demons' Souls (ps3) as well. I hope I can find more fun things to do in ER next time I play and I'm not just once again wandering aimlessly
>>729881264That's great now kill yourself for being a low iq subhuman
>>729881558Both melina and the first fucking NPC tell you to follow the guidance of grace, why are these people so goddamn fucking retarded they can't even do that
>>729875421Blacksmith Giant hammer.
Why haven't they tried to replicate Darkroot? Elden Ring would have been a perfect opportunity to recreate the vibe it has.
>>729881336soulsless*
>>729875421Probably a great shield with a mace.
>>729874872>>729875265>>729875826>>729876518>>729876692It's kinda crazy how garbage natural areas look like in Dark Souls 1/2. Way worse than Oblivion (2006). Literally origami trees.
>>729881589>Eldenreddit tranny mad
>>729881336Don't be delusional.
>>729881686some people just can't into open world games. They need a set path to follow. They do not derive any sense of adventure or space from traversing a world. Its a fundamental disconnect that I've noticed open world haters have.
>>729881558Every region has a fucking huge unmissable castle, are you genuinely retarded anon?
>mass replying with weak baitimagine being so starved for attention
>>729881686What part of my post said I'm not doing that? The fact I'm also wandering off on my own to explore sometimes? There's a lot of boring nothingness in-between the main areas of interest, but you're too hurt by the thread discussion so far to not want to double down. Drink some water anon
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/taTQBM-8RwI?feature=share
>>729874992Hey now, Eternal Ring was rushed, it could have better if they gave them more time.
>>729882217liked shared and followed sister
>the obnoxious autismo ruining fromsoft threads spamming out buzzwords is the same obnoxious autismo that spams jeniffer connelly all over /v/ for no reasonWhy does society have to allow these mindless roaches to live and support them? They spend all day every day for years on end repeating the exact same act for the rest of their lives, why should my taxed money go to support such unproductive, cancerous behavior?Fags like this should either have to earn their living so they don't ruin everything 24/7 or be broke and homeless so they are not able to afford internet access.
>>729881456FAP is overrated, and in my experience Havel's is the more important of the two rings (especially since you can't take FAP off).I have not used FAP in my last few runs and I don't ever find myself missing it. The greater additional poise Havel's facilitates is just too valuable.
>>729882662mods are too afraid to actually hand out permabans these daysmoreover they don't care
>>729875418I don't own a TV either though.
>>729881558>>729882081Elden ring isn't really open world, you have to see it as big dark souls. Each area is still it's own level with its own set difficulty, legacy dungeon and quest/bossesSome areas are meant for early on, others will kick your shit in unless you're skilled at the game. My advice is to explore the area south of limgrave named the weeping peninsula, it's an extended tutorial area so to speak where you can find merchants, quests and things to do and see.Once you fully explore it, go back and continue in limgrave to tackle on stormveil castle, which is the first true dungeon.Also Elden ring really wants you to play with some spells at least for varietys sake, there's many mechanics and npcs that are about spells and miracles so keep that in mind.
why did they allow such a broken weapon?
>>729883806Why not? They are fun too
>>729881558You're going to piss off a lot of fanboys by saying this, but you're right.Here's some general advice:>Track down flask upgrades early, tears can be found at churches. Go down to the southern most zone (past the bridge) asap, there are three churches there that contain a total of three tears.>You want to get Vig up to 40 asap, damage in Elden Ring is dramatically overtuned so it will make the game far more reasonable if you do so. End game you should be looking at 50-60 Vig.>A lot of the somber stone weapons are traps, if you see a somber weapon with a generic ash of war avoid it, you will get better performance with a generic weapon.>Ashes of War are busted shit and you can probably beat the game just by spamming Square Off or Vacuum Slice.And here's an early game route that I typically like doing:>Go to the gate, get Torrent>Travel southwest to the mine, complete it but don't spend the runes.>Travel east along the lake shore/river to get to the dungeon with Patches, defeat him and warp back to the start of the dungeon to set him up as a merchant.>Buy Golden Feet + the recipe for Golden Feet (pop one after defeating any major boss, bosses are by far the best source of rune and this will make them even better for that purpose)>Intentionally trigger the trapped chest in Patch's room to get teleported in between the church with the wondrous physick plus a tear (to the North) and a fort with an important key item for later (to the South).>Go South to Weeping Peninsula for resourcesAfter that do whatever. I'd also consider going North to Liurnia of the Lakes and immediately going Northwest to complete the Caria Manor dungeon. Beating the boss opens up Three Sisters, which in addition to being the start location for Ranni's quest also gives you access (there's a drop onto a building, just travel by the edge of Three Sisters and you'll see it) to a merchant that sells Carian Retaliation, which gives any shield a buckler tier parry frames.
>>729884880Some people live really sad lives when they see everything as checklists waiting to be completed.I do not envy them.
>>729884880I didn't need to do any of this shit to make a Dark Souls run funElden Cockring really doesn't know what an action RPG is
>>729885297Nobody said you have to do any of that shit either mr shitposter.
>>729885297stop larping please and let this thread die
>>729881558>>729884880Some other useful things to keep in mind:>There's a merchant in western Weeping Peninsula that sells the Lantern, an item you can use infinitely to make your character produce light without needing a spell or using up your offhand to hold a torch. Absolutely worth picking up for the few obnoxious dark areas in the game.>Some good easy to get carry weapons of note include the Great Mace (found in northern Liurnia, right before the grand lift in a chest in the war camp), Claymore (Castle Morne, dungeon in south Weeping Peninsula), Bloodhound's Fang (defeat a gaol boss on top of a mountain accessed from taking a spirit spring in the ravine right before the bridge to Weeping Peninsula), Cross-Naginata (from the church where you get wonderous physick, go north into Caelid and then south to a mine/dungeon still in Caelid), and the longsword you can just buy from the Roundtable Hold.>>729885191I'm sorry that you're too stupid to retain any information from your own runs of the game, or come up with strategies to expedite the shitty parts of ER.>>729885297I don't disagree with what you said, I just figured I'd offer some advice to hopefully make your experience better than my first experience with the game. There's a lot that Elden Ring should probably tell you that it just doesn't, and it makes the game more tedious than it needs to be. There's still some fun to be had, even if it's buried in shit.
>>729881558>I don't know anything about what's going on in the storyNobody shits on ER enough for this. The intro cutscene is fucking terrible and explains absolutely nothing about the world or your goal. It just lists a bunch of retards you end up forgetting about. Seriously how did they fuck that up after how good Dark Souls 1 was set up? Even Bloodborne's plot which is shrouded in mystery does it better.
>>729885683The devs bought to hard into their own mystery box meme.
>>729874872Shitty connecting zone with only minibosses. Essentially just a highway to the cooler interesting zones
>>729874992>>729881264retard
>>729875421seconding the mace
>>729885880The PvP zone idea was neat, but unfortunately like you just said there's very little incentive to actually spend any amount of time there.DaS3 unironically did it better, Aldrich Faithful is easily the best area defense covenant in the trilogy inb4 rat guards pretend like there's any reason for players to actually enter their death mazes and even now you can have a lot of fun just camping it.
>>729885925>Piss yellow occasionally broken up by blue or red.Beautiful...
>>729885683>Nobody shits on ER enough for this. That's because we are used to that. That's From's entire gimmick. Miyazaki has this famous line about inventing his own story due to not knowing enough English to understand the novels he read when he was a kid, and that translate to these games as having to make your own story sort of bullshit to understand what happens around you. Don't expect streamlining storytelling from them, it's just not the their usual deal. I'd say that their bigger crime is actually in-game directions. Try to find the places to get the secret medallions on your own. Good fucking luck.
>>729886164Is this why DS2 story is actually coherent and you can piece it together yourself without watching a youtube video
>>729875421do le ebin subversion and do dagger with a shield.
>>729885658>anon on his first playthrough >a disgusting ape filth goes and shits out 1 billion different checklists to do because he's too much of a subhuman to appreciate the joy of playing a video game ans finding things naturally as you progressKill yourself.
>>729886125Its more of a golden hue, but I appreciate that its easy to equate any shade of yellow with urine
>>729874872S'truth.
>>729885925and then you actually play it and all you can see is fog
>>729886164ER feels like a caricature of how DaS handled its story, for all the memes DaS1 pretty plainly tells you what your goals and motivations are out the gate, and there's enough information in-game to tell you want the endings mean and what their implications are. ER is just a bunch of retarded mystery boxes that are glued shut. The implications of the Golden Order, Greater Will, the Elden Ring, what the endings mean and etc are all too vague to come to any meaningful conclusion about.>>729886345Elden Ring's open world is shit and the mechanics do not lend themselves to world exploration at all. You might be an autist that enjoys wandering around a boring and empty open world, but no everyone has the time or patience for that.
>>729885683What the fuck are youThe intro is clear on what happens>land at peace >rings is broken by someone (this implies that the ring is important to the world)>demigods fight for the fractured ring to get power >everything fucked from constant wars>you too arrive and hope to claim the ring and become the lord of the landThat's itLike what the fuck there's nothing complicated or obtuse about this
>>729886164Holy retard learn how to read. Dark Souls 1's intro does what Elden Ring's fails to do. It actually explains the importance and roles of its major characters it expects you to seek out, even the game outside of that does a good job of explaining your goal while leaving a lot of mysteries of the larger world up to interpretation.I'm saying they failed to capitalize on the quality and balance of interpretation on their world and story, if you need me to spell it out for you ESL-kun.
I feel like people don't give ER nearly enough shit for its terrible opening literally being a power point presentation.
>>729886553You forgot to mention the part where there's only five tarnished including you who are involved somehow
>>729886527>Elden Ring's open world is shit and the mechanics do not lend them-Stopped readingI had my doubts but it does seem that you are some kind of third worlderI'll make sure to stop wasting my time on you.
>>729886527>and there's enough information in-game to tell you want the endings mean and what their implications are.I don’t mean to pick on you, but just to check something: what do the endings mean in your opinion? Because even I got sidelined on that. The Age of Dark is actually the good ending. I initially thought Fire was good, then later that both endings fucking sucked, but that's still kind of wrong. Or maybe I guess is a matter of perspective.
>>729886708Nice rebuttal, fanboy.
>>729886647They ran out of money after they had to do last minute rewrites. Plz understanduMajority of the endings being the same scene except with a different color might be the worst though. But retards will say "but uhhh it's meant to be shit because the ending isn't supposed to be meaningful!" after you make the effort to do a long ass quest. Absolutely mogged by Dark Souls 3 of all games in that regard.>>729886708>No counter argumentAbsolutely raped and gaped when presented with actual reasoning. Holy seethe.
>>729886671There's obviously more than fiveAnd there's obviously more than the 11 demigods you fight in game (I forgot if there were 11 or more) as we can see with all the wandering mausoleumsThey get mentioned to draw your attention and see that you are accompanied by strange and important people (Gideon surrounded by ears, Fia being a literal corspe fucker, DUNGeater and so forth)The only one that seems slightly normal is Hoarah Loux, but he turns out to be the most unique of them all when you do meet him
>>729875342Not reallyI Iike DeS a lot but it's area design philosophy is pretty different. Darkroot is so great because it is a mostly large open space but with enough limitations in traversal to make exploring it interesting and clearly defined but subtle internal zones, in addition to connecting to several other areas in a natural and intuitive way. DeS levels are cool and intricate but tend to be more linear, there are loops but they are still straight lines of progress that you just tackle in order, and each section has a defined beginning and end, and an order that you generally explore them in. 4-1 is probably the closest area, except maybe 5-2 which is obviously not likely to be anyone's favourite, but it still has one entry at the archstone and one exit at the boss.Demons Souls levels are more like the Undead Burg, at least when they're good, which is also great obviously but not really like Darkroot and there's definitely not a bunch of locations like it.Also dickstab forest hunter shenanigans is still the best PvP experience fromsoft have ever made. The bell towers and swamp/aldrich ones in ds3 just never really hit the same and how good Darkroot was for it is probably most of that.
>>729886819In the context of Dark Souls 1 as a stand alone game, it's essentially "gamble on the age of humanity despite the negative influence of the Abyss" vs "keep on perpetuating Gwyn's age of fire and maintain the safer status quo".Looking at it in the context of the entire trilogy DaS2 makes it pretty clear that your choice didn't actually matter and that any attempt at an Age of Dark was always thwarted by some idiot coming along and reigniting the first flame (which is why you aren't even given a choice in DaS2, it just fades to black when you take the throne despite in theory having the option to go either route).
>>729875049>>729881589>is too retarded eldenbros it's time to learn english in 2026!!!
>>729886959>There's obviously more than five>And there's obviously more than the 11 demigods you fight in game (I forgot if there were 11 or more) as we can see with all the wandering mausoleumsYeah obviously. But the intro doesn't show you any of that it just bombards you with an infodump of boring mysteries. The game would be better off if they just dropped you into the world without it.
>>729886708Elden Ring literally has the largest Indian fanbase of any Fromsoft game. You can see this too by the way they have effeminate tantrums the moment someone criticizes any aspect of the game, much like a low inhib thirdie. You're not fooling anyone. I'm going to enjoy a nice, lovely steak.
>>729887289Indians liking something doesn't stop that thing from being good. That's just a side effect of Elden Ring being such a massive hit.
>>729887345LMAO
>>729887058Forgive me, murricanbro. In my defense I learnt English by watching a fuckload of movies, so brainfarts are bound to happen. I never went to any form of course or training whatsoever and the last time it was in my curriculum I was still trying to fingerfuck my HS gf.
>>729887345this the discordfags don't eveb understand logic>>729887289>INDIAN INDIAN INDIANS I CANT STOP THINKING ABOUT INDIANSyou are pathetic
I like when I can post this.
>>729887834The most indian post 2026 so far, congrats>>729887902Oh, nevermind
>>729874872Latria mogs
>>729888072>The most indian post 2026 so far, congratsNo need to be rude.
>>729886462You say that like DS1 doesn't have one of the most intense depth of field blurs in gaming.
>>729878663This but zero magic and the Claymore. I've only ever beaten DeS/DS1/2/3/ER with Longsword and then Claymore once I find it. There is simply no need for anything else.
>>729881842Yeah, their engine was good at making castles and anything mostly reliant on squared off architecture with a few curves, but struggled to work with naturalistic geometry. Dark Root never felt like a natural forest. The geometry always had that uncanny artificial feeling to it.
>>729888484ok? have you tried disabling it?
>>729888658It is the intended experience. Distant objects aren't AA'd enough otherwise.
>>729888009Cats truly are the best thing in the Souls series.
>>729888518>This but zero magic and the Claymore.OK but just a little fire, the kind that you can hold in your hand, just wee tiny bit.
>>729876692Nice fps, fagg
>>729888728and the fog in elden ring can't be toggled off so not only is it the intended experience but it's also a mandated experience.
>>729879282>one of the few entertaining bosses in the game>beginning of the end because he expects you to play your game
>>729885683All Souls games have stories that are hacked together messes. The issue for Elden Ring is that instead of it just vagueposting about Gwyn fighting to keep the Flame going and the consequences of that, it tries to tell a story with a bunch of interacting important characters that all are present and mostly still alive and active. So the sloppiness starts to be a much larger issue when you're looking it in the face.
I feel.......so tired bros.https://youtu.be/bm2Ev4n4HfM
>>729881727They tried with the underground forests.
>>729883806Not everything needs to be balanced. Cool mythical weapons are good game design.
>>729876518>The spamtard is spamming his ancient shit in a Dark Souls thread again
>>729885925wallpaper engine tier backdrops with no substance
>>729889819My my he has finally learned how to utilize big words
>>729885925>seething trannys replying to this postHoly btfo'd batman.
>>729891370>batman.go back
>>729888009>Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
>>729888623Funny, it ended up actually being an artificial forest in the end, though it probably wasn't really intended to be at first. But after the DLC came out and made the Royal Wood a manicured, managed forest with gardeners and everything, that after a few centuries of neglect turned into Darkroot it makes sense.
