shit launch. it also has other issues but this was the biggest reason

>>729877094
early woke

I wanted to play Dane DeHaan not the ugly negress in the dlc

ran like shit on launch but today on modern hardware its unfathomably kino

>>729877094
It ran unbelievably bad on release given the graphical fidelity.

>>729877676
Still runs like shit, at least on my AMD. Had to fiddle for hours.

>>729877094
People were filtered by harder gameplay, levels being actually unique

Once again, if you play Dishonored games lethally, you did not play them correctly + you're a nigger

>>729877939
>AMD
>Had to fiddle for hours
Truly the AMD experience

And Contonio (director of Arx, Dishonored, and Prey) said that immersive sims are very expensive to make, as they require a lot of time and highly skilled designers and programmers, while having a smaller fanbase than shooters.

That’s one of the reasons AC moved away from stealth, and why stealth is pretty much dead outside of indie games and Hitman.

>>729878491
Yk you can play the game again and again
that's why they different ranks and objectives

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>>729877094
>Why was it not successful?

Let's see
>worse sword animations
Many people were disgusted by sword animations that were straight up downgrade from first game and boycotted the game
>female protagonist who goes to beach resort but don't wear bikini
Game is mostly beach episode of dishonored, but main heroin isn't dressed for it, she's wearing clothes reminestent of burqa, also she is escaping by boat from her home country and starts killing local people on spot. making game political message that islamisation of Europe is a good thing and we should celebrate voilent rapefuges.
>game have ethnic minorities/PoC in form of italians
game is set in mostly what is supposed to be steampunk version of Italy and majority of people in game are not white or to be more precise and I'm sorry for using harsh language italians and possibly sicilians, making game not apealling to gamers.

In conclusion it's game about islamized protagonist refugee in burqa arriving on boat commiting murder on native i*alians whit her shitty sword animations at height of European migration crisis.
No wonder it flopped, disgusting behaviour from developers, goes against Christian values of gammer community. Wouldn't reccomend.

I would recommedn first dishonored game, it's about life of white man in London, his daughter is taken away by goverment, stab or get stabbed in middle of dirty city, sword animations are very good, game very fun.

>>729877094
It wasn't successful? I honestly didn't follow what was happening with the game and just played it. That time travel level is the best thing I've ever played. Clockwork Mansion follows immediately after.

>>729878730
You sound like a pajeet trying to replicate polspeak and failing

Buggy launch with bad performance, and the replayability is hampered by some exposition story beats being unskippable and very boring to go through. Also the first mission is a very strong filter, whereas in DH1 you start with an easy tutorial, in DH2 you start in what is the hardest level in the game considering you have no powers and guards are much better at spotting you.

Other than that, the gameplay is much superior to the first game, with non-lethal actually being interesting, replaying the game with all powers unlocked is great, but the story was clearly written for Emily so playing Corvo, the criticism you receive make no sense.

>>729877094
No one buys immsims. Otherwise the genre should have been flourishing nonstop since the first Deus Ex.

>>729878730
Bro probably thought this was the funniest shit

plot is retarded. atmosphere is shit.
>some random cunt seizes the throne room
>is empress now
>the whole city just goes with it, like power is derived from whoever sits on the chair.

>>729877094
Nigger DLC.

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>>729879330
Also brought her back for no reason and turned her into a Disney villain

>>729878730

>worse sword animations
No one boycotted the game over sword animations. Less fluid movement is a way more valid gameplay-focused complaint.

>female protagonist who goes to beach resort but don't wear bikini
Game is played in first person, you're a retard.

>game's political message is that islamisation of Europe is a good thing and we should celebrate voilent rapefuges.
Literal schizophrenia. That or indian trying to sow discontent online for rupees as previously pointed out.

>>729878730
this clown thinks he's sseth

>>729879173
Pajeet derangement syndrome

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>Emily the Butcher

>>729879330
She was assassinating a bunch of key people and installing her loyalists too you know.

>>729877094
Game was good. Just replayed up to the clockwork mansion as the female

>>729879330
>the whole city just goes with it
The overseers tried to oust Delilah from the throne but got destroyed. In the final level you see all their corpses from the battle

>>729879662
not how it works. You don't just up and depose the empress by having a few people support you. Legitimacy matters. The Lord Regent of the first game took power by having parliament made him the regent for the missing Emily. He didn't just up and make himself the new emperor. He still had to acknowledge Emily as the real ruler. He ruled only because parliament let him. Delilah did no such thing. She literally just destroyed all of parliament and the entire Gristolian army didn't march on Dunwall to depose her and reinstall Emily for some retarded reason.

>>729879921
shouldn't just be the overseers, but all of Gristol minimum should be storming Dunwall. If tomorrow someone unlawfully ousted Trump from power, do you think only the DC police would be fighting to restore him or the entire United States army?

>>729880127
Depends on how much people give a fuck about the person in power.

The empire is probably riddled with problems from the plague which was only 10 years ago, and I'm assuming Emily's reign was unpopular.

Coupling this with Delilah installing loyalists and the Crown Killer assassinating key followers and it's enough for me to suspend my disbelief and accept it.

>>729879615
saar

>>729880662
people absolutely do give a fuck about the person in power. That's the whole reason France isn't ruled by the Anglos today. Some fucking nigger Anglo king came and defeated them at Agincourt and disinherited their prince. Did the French lie down and just let the Anglos take their country? No, they organized around the rightful heir and gradually ousted the angloid. If some whore deposed the rightful empress, do you think there is any army officer at all who wouldn't jump at the chance to help put the rightful empress back in place and become the celebrated hero?

>>729877094
Probably the time skip, Meagan Foster being front and centre in a lot of the fucking marketing for some weird reason, Emily/Corvo having way different but sometimes the same powers with stark differences in how useful they are. It ran like utter shit on console IIRC. I was fine with my shitty laptop with a 1650 Mobile so no idea why people said it ran badly on PC unless it was on a hdd then it did

The actual biggest issue is that the game itself was far too easy and didn't evolve from the weak points in the first game. Even with pure no powers, it was still incredibly basic black bith to ghost/no kill the entire game

>>729877094
broke ass engine. gameplay is ok though.

>>729877094
It simply wasn't good

>>729881639
We do see that Delilah and her sect butchered the entire town's guards in the end, and that's despite having the advantage of some corrupt nobles being on her side and the fear of the Crown Killer that was blamed on Emily.

>>729877939
Odd. My 6700XT and 5600x locked this bitch at 120fps without any issues.

>>729881639
>That's the whole reason France isn't ruled by the Anglos today
>Agincourt
Are you aware that during 100 years war England was ruled by French? Even if France lost 100 years war they would still be ruled by French king. Richard Lionheart king of England most likely didn't know word in english, because he was frenchmen. Spanish royal family is French.
Current British Monarchy is German, they changed name after WW1 for obvious reasons.
So no people don't give fuck about person in power.

>>729882125
shouldn't be at the end, but at the beginning. Instead of Emily/Corvo having to fled to a foreign country for some reason, they should have sailed to the nearest army camp and gather forces to take back Dunwall.

My entire problem with Dishonored 2 is that if they wanted that Delilah coup plot, then Emily/Corvo cannot be the protagonist. they are the lawful leaders of state and should have no problem at all rallying loyalists to take back the throne. If they wanted to go with the Delilah coup plot, the protagonist should have been some loyalist of Emily and Corvo. Leave Emily and Corvo in the background handling the logistics of taking back the throne, while the new protagonist contends with doing spy assassin shit to weaken Delilah's power base or whatever.

>>729882431
No, England was ruled by the Normans, who at that point was becoming more and more Anglocized. Halfway through the 100 years war you got the first king who spoke English as his mother tongue. By the time of Agincourt the English nobility was predominantly Anglo.

The current British monarchy had to rebrand themselves from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha to Windsor precisely because they knew the Anglos didn't like the idea of being ruled by Germoid very much.

>>729882631
This. The game completely undercuts its own internal logic by having the two most powerful people in the empire-one of them literally a living legend blessed by the Void-just skulk away like fugitives instead of immediately rallying loyalist military forces. You're telling me Corvo, the Royal Protector, can escape a palace coup, teleport through half the empire, cut through the most elite assassins in the Isles but can’t muster a single loyal battalion? It made zero sense.

Having a loyalist protagonist doing recon, sabotage and assassinations in support of Emily/Corvo would’ve been perfect. Let the OGs wage the war and show up in cutscenes while you operate in the shadows. Would’ve made Delilah’s reign more believable and raised the stakes. Instead we got the Empress herself crouch sneaking past rats for 8 hours because muh stealth gameplay.

>>729878491
>if you don't ignore half the features in the game, you're playing it wrong!
based retard

>>729882875
Oh great after centuries ruling dynasty decided to finally learn local language.
100 years war wasn't about being ruled by anglos, it was throne dispute between French dynastie.
>Anglos didn't like the idea of being ruled by Germoid very much
Guess it had something to do with fighting world war against Germany because you know change happened in 1917, after Somme and stuff.(I would like to correct myself because I wrongly claimed that name change was after WW1 when in fact it was during WW1)

>>729878491
>only correct way to play the game is by ignoring 75% of content
Grim

>>729877229
This. It was on massive discount and I don't even want to buy it.

>>729877094
Shit writing.

>>729877094
bad launch, performance issues, whiny woman protag and an ugly sheboon in the dlc.

I freaking love dishonored 2

>>729878491
The most fun way to play the game is to go full murderhobo on everything you see. I don't care how it affects the plot.

>>729877094
>runs like shit, thanks VOID engine
>Corvo feels like a last minute decision because they realized nobody liked Emily
>Oh yeah, Corvo speaks now. Why not (even funnier is that the localization team for my language gave him the voice of one of the random NPCs from the first game, which I thought was hilarious)
>Emily's powers are just straight up worse than Corvo's. Sorry but Far Reach will never be as cool as blink, especially deviant blink
>fine gameplay wise, no complaints there
>Let's bring back the worst main villain from the DLC!
>let's ALSO make the Beecworth equivalent Billie Lurke!
The story just fucking sucks

>>729883940
it's not like full on prolapsed asshole nigger tranny AIDS pozzed but it's like proto-woke, you can see they want to be Captain Marvel with it but they just don't know how yet

>>729880018
Mind control'n'shit
Also the Duke was promised a 0.5% tax cut

>>729877094
It's a meme-game with no substance. You can't eat dessert breakfast lunch and dinner.
I mean look at this clown >>729878006 with his "levels being actually unique" lol "so quirky." These kind of fag-hags ruined the game, and the fourth Thief game too (with that UNIQUE and QUIRKY sanatorium level repeated).

>>729877229
Also this.

>>729877676
Yeah, quite wild to think Dishonored 1 ran fine on potato but still looked excellent maxed out 4k, while Dishonored 2 still runs awful.

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I like playing as Emily and Billie more than Corvo and Daud.

>>729878491
playing no powers + lethal in D2 as Corvo who is old and sick of this bullshit is kino and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

>>729877094
Fags have chronically bad taste. Case in point, this thread and /v/ as a whole. Plus, the lowlives who criticize Dishonored 2 as "woke" don't play video games.

>>729888372
Meme-post with no substance.

>>729888676
One fair criticism of Dishonored 2 is that the need for levels to accommodate a no powers run kneecapped the level design a bit.
Also, instant knockouts were a mistake. The reason for their existence might be tied to the aforementioned no powers mode. I mean, Dishonored 1 also had this issue. The Strong Arms bone charm is infinitely better than any other for stealth as it allows near-instant knockouts, so getting it early trivialises much of the game. It came back in Dishonored 2 as well, but it's not as egregious because the game already has actually-instant knockouts, so it's not that much of a power spike.

I like both games regardless.

>>729888790
>Dishonored 2 as "woke" don't play video games.
DH2 is an excellent game, but it is woke, one of the Gamergate grifter girls officially served as a consultant because "le wahman weren't empowered in the first game!", it's why you have female guards now which never existed in the first game, why Billie was turned into a very black nigger, why the fat kind aristocrat is a faggot, why Emily is a lesbian...

Still, apart from the fag elements, the only thing the game lacks to be perfect is the ability to skip the whole Delilah and Outsider backstory segments, they have absolutely 0 gameplay element and you can't even get off your chair to wait it out because you have to walk for 3 seconds regularly to trigger the next cutscene.

>>729886325
Shouldve just had new protags with Corvo and Emily in the background story
Its Dishonored, not Corvo and Emily Adventures, couldve easily done it

>>729890156
>there will never be a Dishonored game set in Tyvia
It hurts, bros.

>>729888868
>no u

>>729890716
Meme-post with no substance.

>>729890864
>hagfag moment

>>729891086
Meme-post with no substance.

>>729878491
people should play however they want in these games and you're a neurotic jewish faggot if you think otherwise
t. no powers non-lethal stealth enjoyer

>>729889576
>why Emily is a lesbian
wasn't she getting dicked by some (male) officer?

>>729892040
Nope, all we gt that is remotely sexual from her is letters from her girlfriend in the "Anton Sokolov made this lock" secret room in the first level.

>>729891262
you will be deported to india, where you belong

>>729882223
...at 1080P

>>729877094
Buggy, game was worse than 1 for a couple of reasons in plot depth and freedom of choice, otherwise neat. Terrible voice acting for the protags though.
>Delilah coming back
It was a stinker if you actually kept up with the series, completely invalidated knife of dunwall.
>>729877229
Emily wasn't a bad character in terms of abilities, though I think the game would have been better with either her or Corvo as a central focus. Where the game really struggles is the voice acting for both of them being terribly flat and lacking any emotion, as well as not enough uniqueness to the choice of character or particulars of being able to play a woman or a man. It's as a whole less imaginative and grounded as Dishonored 1.
Friendly reminder by the way, Daud was a jacked 6'2 guy, and Corvo was an absurdly built 6'4" rogue-ish warrior. Emily, even trained for the full 10 years of passed time between 1 and 2, should not be capable of nearly the same feats of strength that Corvo and Daud are doing.

>>729888372
Level design is maybe one of the only redeeming elements of 2, although all the midway levels are kind of boring the main levels themselves actually have a lot of flavor and freedom of choice for the player. I'll agree with you though, very much a meme game just chasing money for a sequel. I'm fairly certain the CEO of Arkane was hands off with this game as well, iirc at the time he was working primarily on Prey instead of this one.

>>729877229
>early woke
spbp, they have to kick every male character out of all IPs to shove in resting bitchface stronk womyn.

>>729877094
Should have been about Corvo cracking down on some coup plot that had the support of 90% of the city. Justify it as Emily being traumatized by watching her mother get skewered and being incapable of ruling well or something.

Recently played these for the 1st time, I know everyone glazes the first one but I preferred the second. Art direction is absolutely superb and I think the new engine fitted the aesthetic they were going for a lot better

>>729892040
>>729892427
The game doesn't clarify the writer's gender but you can probably make assumptions going off of the writers and consultants.

>>729893005
>the main levels themselves actually have a lot of flavor and freedom of choice for the player
you mean like the city and stuff? i liked the city, was nice and dusty (in the comfy "nobody here" sense)

>>729893613
The writer's name is literally "Wyman", they couldn't make it more obvious while keeping plausible deniability.

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I liked it

>>729892752
3440x1440p

>>729877094
Went woke, thus the broke.
2016 too, so it was among the earliest to do so.

>>729893836
The city was comfy but it had not much choice for players, outside of the DLC parts of the city since they melded well into the main levels. I mean shit like the mansion, the occultist time travel house (though, the dust district preceding it was kino), the conservatory, the hospital. The only one I kind of didn't like was the count's palace. I felt that it was a bit unimaginative and a couple of steps behind all of the other ones. Compared to the equivalent level in Dunwall tower (perfection) and Daud's covid-zone, 2's ending crawl is pretty weak. I felt like that would have been the perfect time for allies or people you interacted with to show up and help but it never really came to be. Dunwall tower (2) was also kind of mediocre because it was a retread frankly but I think everyone knows Delilah wasn't a good antagonist. She was more interesting in Knife of Dunwall.

>>729889576
I forgot to mention, but the hub area between missions being almost non-existent was also a big flaw of the game. In DH1, the hub was filled with interesting characters and a great area to explore, one you eventually came back to when it was filled with guards and provided a fun level, one where a lot of the plot happened. In DH2, the hub has what, 4 characters at most? It's literally just a means of transportation and nothing else, it's not very interesting, it doesn't serve as a level, it almost feels like it's there because it has to otherwise the pace would be too fast.

>>729896290
>DH2 hub
Yeah it was just the boat with Billy, Sokolov, and you. I think at one point the alchemist lady was in there? I don't remember. It's basically the same boat all-throughout since none of the loot on it respawns. It's a nice idea but it's pretty much something that would have been better to skip and allow your character to naturally traverse Karnaca. Shouldn't be impossible either, it's smaller than Dunwall and you can basically see every notable location from the introductory zone except for the Dust District I think.

>>729896881
It's you, Billy, Sokolov, Hypatia (the doctor lady with a split personality) and the fat aristocrat if you knocked him out in the past to spare him the ceremony, but he basically doesn't matter at all. So you're literally only guaranteed 2 people on the boat.

>>729892897
You have Corvo and Emily having completely different sets of powers and takedown animations (Emily’s animations being more flashy, but sloppy, while Corvo’s are simple and practical). I think that’s impressive for gameplay differences and enough to set them apart. Gender really doesn’t matter when you’re a magic assassin.

>>729897525
Yes I agree but all your assassination shit isn't done by being a "magic assassin" it's done by being a real assassin and Corvo easily has double the muscle mass of Emily. I personally do not mind this, because ultimately I can suspend my disbelief enough. That said, I just don't think it does enough. Different powers and animations are mostly aesthetic differences because your general approach to gameplay isn't terribly different save for blink and shadow grasp movement, which is cool granted. I think the game just didn't do enough for it, Emily and Corvo fundamentally have tools to do the same thing other than Corvo's time stop absurdity and even then the main mechanic use of time stop with multiple eliminations at the same time can be done with domino. I just think it detracts from the story and design of the game rather than making it so that you just play Emily from the offset and design things exclusively for her that Corvo can't do. The game design is very universal, and a big problem with 2 and the DLC is that you can fundamentally mod or play with Corvo's abilities for everything and it wouldn't really make much of a difference.

>>729877094
>buggy launch
>way worse antagonist instead of conspiracy by nobles to get power you get magic withc that was defeated in dlc but somehow returned
>Emily as main protagonist was worse than Corvo
>Karnaca had worse atmosphere than Dunwall
>main hub you spend your time bewteen missions is boring small ship instead of bar full of conspirators ready to restore Emily
Outside of being buggy on launch D2 had worse feeling, it's city felt worse when compared to dunwall, antagonist sucked, main mission hub sucked.
Despite overall improvments in gameplay game felt worse if it worked in first place.

>>729895713
yeah thenks for the write-up
I pondered replaying D2 but I just can't muster the energy with better games out there waiting for me to play... in fact even thinking about D2 drains me of energy