ITT: JRPGs only you played.
>>729883287that game is South Korean, not japanese, so not a JRPG but rather a KRPG
>>729883287An asian game on Xbox is a sacrilegious sight.
That's Korean.
>>729883490fag
>>729883287No, I played it too. Nearly ripped my dick off to this nigga's art. Defined my taste of exaggerated hips and big thighs for the rest of my life.
>>729883501>Peter Jackson's King Kongbased
wasnt the guy who drew this art director for stellar blade or smth like that idont rmember
>>729883389genres are not specific to place of make but a style of gameplay that a place pioneered and popularized. It's why the use of dice and heavy RNG is known as an American-style board game.
>>729883709Would that make Expedition 33 a JRPG or still a FRPG?
>>729883709JRPG is not a genre.
>>729883287Hey anyone know where I could play this on pc?
>>729883682The CEO of Shift Up, which developed Stellar Blade and Nikke was the art director for this game, Blade & Soul, and Stellar Blade.
>>729883816Still a JRPG, the director even explicitly said so
>>729883816It's a JRPG made by the French just like pic is a JRPG made by Americans for Lord of the Rings.
>>729883709good bait
>>729884147Is Wizardry 1 a JRPG?
>>729884147that's the Lord of the rings game that copies the battle mechanics of FFX, no? is it good?
>>729884207That game predates the genre but is one of the inspiring building blocks for Japanese devs to create and standardize what is coined as JRPG. Sort of like how wargaming was a foundational aspect for pen and paper RPGs.
JRPG is just the style but it doesn't have to come out of Japan. If I order tacos in Chicago or Hong Kong, it's still Mexican foodyall quit acting dumb it really isn't that hard
>>729883682>smthneck yourself
>>729884345You're not supposed to use a food analogy.
>>729883287
>>729884339What does Wizardry 1 have to do with Dragon Slayer, Dragon and Princess or Xanadu?
>>729883287/v/ doesn't play video games
>>729884345But it's not a genre, it's a descriptor.
>>729883530YOUR MOM
>>729883287This was at my local gamestop this week for $40 in 2026. What the fuck.
>>729883709>still posting this bait to try and elevate non Japanese games Holy subhuman
>>729884284NTA but no m8 it's ultra mega ass
>>729883287I have the OG of this sitting on my shelf of games to play. Is it any good
>>729884693In video games, the descriptors are the genre since it reflects gameplay.
>>729884759It's a rare 360m. Gained more notoriety after Stellar Blade, same character designer.Hop on Wartech soon lil bro.
>>729884916What the kind of gameplay is reflected by the phrase "Japanese Role-Playing Game" ?
>>729884913No and nips should be killed for appropriating my culture
Outside of Persona, the Swordcraft series is probably the only JRPG I know of where the spinoff is more popular than the main series. I recently went back to them and they’re still as fun as I remember. I’ve tried other SN games that got localized, but they just aren’t fun, they’re generic strategy RPGs. There’s something about the Swordcraft games that makes them more engaging, and it’s not just because of the action gameplay.Sometimes I feel like I’m the only person in the world who cares about this series.
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>>729885087it means "it's like Final Fantasy" and only 80's/90's Final Fantasy not that Kingdom Hearts style beat em up slop
>>729884790>reads a sentence in his native language>intentionally misinterprets it to chimp out>thinks its "bait"only subhuman here is you, just call him a cunt you dont have to invent what he "really meant"
>>729885435Japanese Action Role-Playing games are older or as old as Turn-Based Roleplaying Japanese ones, same goes with Strategy RPGs too. Dragon Warrior is older than Final Fantasy for fuck's sake, the series that the Trails of series -- FUCKING MEAN REAN'S GAMES -- are a part of and Ys spun out of is OLDER THAN FINAL FANTASY.It Historically and Categorically makes no sense to treat JRPG as a genre.
>>729885691>Ysi now remember bumper cars
>>729885691You're retarded anon. Do you also sperg out about french fries?
>>729885691Legend of heroes is even less of an actual series than final fantasy is
>>729886393Chips*
>>729883287you guys have probably never heard of it but it's called persona 4
Spoiler: they all suck.
>>729885251I played one of these games. It let me pick a robot companion and I really enjoyed the first few hours but then I lost my copy. Wish I knew which game it was
>>729883287>JK*
>>729883287Game wasn't half bad. I really liked the desert music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1lZD0Mv-gU
>>729883287Many gamers played Magna Carta 2, but what about Magna Carta 1? It was just like one of those 500 yen Japanese games.
>>729884873>>729884147I remember playing it and liking the combat
>>729885640this
>>729885784i kinda miss the bumper car games, but i know they'll never go back to it
>>729883709No.>>729883816FaggotRPG. Not a JRPG. Not even good.>>729884020Wrong.>>729884147Wrong. Die.>>729884207There is a JRPG version of wizardry 1 but the original is just a classic RPG. It was not made by japs.>>729884339It doesn't predate genre. It was always an RPG this one is just digital. People always forget that tabletop RPGs invented all of this a decade prior.>>729884345You're wrong.>>729889262Finally some good fucking games. Metal Max kino.
>>729889781The tank-building tickles my autism in exactly the right way. It's also why I really loved the Sand Land game from last year, it's basically realtime Metal Max with a AAA budget and Toriyama art design.
>>729889781>no argumentI won
>>729889906I'll add it to the list. I didn't have any interest cause Toriyama's art sadly doesn't do much for me. I like tanks though so maybe I'll pick it up on a sale.
>>729889781How does a JRPG play?
>>729890084How it plays is arbitrary. There's only a few consistent mechanics.Some kind of stat system is required. Being made by Japanese people is required.You could get into arguments about "style" or whatever but none of that really matters. What matters is the people who make the thing and the one consistent element of all of these games being that.It's like how people that are really dumb say that anime is a "style" when it is specifically used to refer to Japanese animation and anyone who actually likes anime despises the korean/chinese/other-asian-here stuff that is coming out capitalizing on the explosion of anime.It's the Japanese approach to making things that I am personally attracted to and I don't care about how other people choose to define what is or isn't a JRPG.Calling it a "style" is something that only a person that doesn't love JRPGs would do.Much like hardcore porn, I know a JRPG when I see it. "how does it play" fuck off you reductive mindless cunt.
>>729884638>/v/ doesn't play video games>posts visual novel?
>>729890568What if its made by japanese people that just relocated to seattle
>>729890568Everything you just said disqualifies JRPG from being a genre of game.
>>729890738It would largely depend on whether or not they were impacted by the culture of Seattle and to what degree but I'd argue if the people are Japanese and have a lot of the same sensibilities of Japanese people (who are from and live in Japan) and they're not allowing the culture to change them significantly then they'd be JRPGs.If they're specifically trying to appeal to westerners and using a lot of westerners in the creation of narrative and game design, that's where the biggest issues I have come from. The programmers can be from anywhere as long as the actual design is done by Japanese people.Ideally the "localizers" will be true to the original script but oftentimes they're not. It's bad when they're inaccurate but I can live with it if the changes aren't too zany or focused entirely on weird humor or references or the like. I know a lot is lost in translation so I'm pretty lenient as far as script goes, as long as the gameplay is in-tact and a solid percentage of the story is close enough I'm okay.But in the coming years from the explosion of multiculturalism and the potential destruction of Japan as a nation I feel like my favorite kinds of games are at risk.Hopefully I'll be long dead before I see the eradication of what I personally enjoy but I will probably outlive it.>>729891187Genre is stupid anyways. I have defined what it is to me and that's all that matters.
>>729891445You just defined that it's a descriptor of where the game is from not what kind of game it is, otherwise by your very loose criterea WWE 12 is a JRPG.
>>729884454I played that. Mechanics were wasted on a niche game for little girls.
>>729884207no, but wizardry has had an extremely heavy influence in nip game development and fantasythey took it like flies to shit
>>729891606I've never played it but yeah probably.It does specifically appeal to westerners though and it doesn't seem have very many of the mechanics I personally like but sure.I don't see any issue with calling this a JRPG outside of the simple fact that other descriptors would work better. It's a J-wrestling game for sure though.
what's a JRPG?
>>729891741Therefore according to the food analogies itt every Jap RPG that imitates Wizardry is American. DQ and FF are American, every game inspired by them is American therefore we should be calling them ARPGs. >>729891792>J-wrestling gameThus defeating your point
>JRPG has to come from JapanIt was largely popularized and standardized by Japan during the video game boom of last decades. That's the entire point. It was EMBLEMATIC of RPGs that were coming out of Japan at the time which coined the term. Japan doesn't even use the term JRPG until the last decade and a half or so, but they distinguished WRPGs mostly from the US (洋).
>>729888585I have Magna Carta on PSP
>>729891895Japan specifically calls them Western RPGs to differentiate them making their own style from RPGs. For most of the video game industry it was just US and Japan conducting cultural exchange for decades. Japan learned what RPGs were from the US.
>>729891895Yuke's was known for Wrestling games. I never said it's not a JRPG just that "wrestling" as a term fits better. My point is solid.Also the other WWE games are RPGs too. I never said anything that contradicts itself.
>>729891904ah yes, when I go to my corner Chinese shop, I always order the Jrice.Fuck off my nigga. Japan couldn't develop itself without America, let alone RPGs.
>>729891895They technically wouldn't be American just like every miniature wargame hobby in existence wouldn't be British.
>>729885251I played the first one on a whim based on that "uh I kiss other girls all the time!" image. I went in expecting a top down action game but it was a 2D action game like old Tales games (I only played Abyss). Very good game and I of course was a Drill weapon chad. FeMC and Sugar are pretty cute too but apparently Sugar is a hand-me-down from your dad or some shit which was kind of weird.
>>729883287I've played 1.
lost odyssey stuck on the xbox 360 forever
>>729892115That's my point. And they made something distinct and with good enough frequency to earn a toponymic title as a genre.
>>729891904>>729892017Japan does not use the term "Western RPG" They use the term "Foreign Game," they still categorise games appropriately, like for instance Wasteland 2 is described as a SRPG, the same genre of game as Fire Emblem. Nobody uses WRPG as a term except the same people who think JRPG is a genre. >>729892027>just that "wrestling" as a term fits betterWhich again defeats your point.
>>729892209It's the real E33.
>>729892250What do you think 洋ゲ means?
>>729883287Did.>>729884147Did.>>729891215comeonnow.pngThis fucking garbage.
>>729883287I have an artbook that came with this game that I used to jerk off to constantly. Don't remember anything about the game though
>>729892506Nothing to do specifically with RPGs
>>729892250This is absolutely false because they don't use the same names for RPGs that are being released in China or Korea and the US and Europe (West)
ENTERhttps://youtu.be/SByiGH8em_s?si=pxvb9LieduHIhcTL
>>729892641It specifically does since when it has RPG next to it.
>>729892250>Which again defeats your point.How so? It can be both a JRPG and a Wrestling game. You'd just pick one over the other when it comes down to describing what the game is to to someone.My whole issue with the toponym of JRPG is that JRPGs are highly inconsistent outside of the things I specifically said.Calling them JRPGs isn't wrong by my own definition but it's imprecise and you would be creating confusion for other people.Not that it matters to me at all. I love WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2006 and if I have to call it a JRPG for the rest of my life then I will.It's a damn good one."BRO YOU ARE LOGICALLY FLAWED BECAUSE ONE GAME SERIES FITS YOUR DESCRIPTION BUT YOU'D STILL USE ANOTHER TERM FOR IT"You argue like an idiot and I'm sorry you don't seem to comprehend that video games can have many descriptors and the accuracy of the descriptors changes for every person.
>>729892714No it doesn't, ゲ is short for game.
>>729892759You absolute fucking moron like this:洋ゲーRPGYou will find that most of Japan saw Western style RPGs to have been inferior and they had to "remodel" it into something they rather play which to everyone else but them, turned to call them JRPGs. If you're implying that because Japan has never used the term JRPGs so we should never use it then you don't know how exonyms work.
>>729891949I heard a chinese studio was making a sequel or a remake or what ever I forgot, did they do it?
>>729893009>Western Ge Roleplaying GameNobody says this. >>729892726>It can be both a JRPG and a Wrestling gameWhich continues to defeat your point, you wouldn't call it a JRPG now would you? You'd call it a wrestling game because it plays nothing like, for example, Octopath Traveler.
>>729892561Good for Nikke CEO that you did
>>729892250JRPG is a genre to everyone but Japan.
>>729883490360 had Blue Dragon,Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonata,Katamari Forever, Idolmaster,Stein's Gate and all kinds of other stuff.They definitely tried, the Japanese just really don't like the brand
>>729883287Atelier Ryza. It´s a niche JRPG series with emphasis on alchemy (i.e., crafting)
only I have played
>>729883490No it isn't. It was an attempt to branch out from the Japanese stranglehold. The best version of Culdcept for example only exists in the 360.
>>729883501>Mind JackI saw that for the first time ever at a video game convention last monthNever heard anyone discuss it
>>729893147I can and would call it a JRPG now that I'm aware it was developed by Japanese people.I wouldn't have before because I didn't know.But sure Wrestling is more apt. Doesn't mean it's not a JRPG. How a game plays has nothing to do with it to me.Dark Souls, Octopath Traveler, Rune Factory, Samurai Bringer, WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2006.All JRPGS.They all also happen to have other descriptors on top of that and how much of an RPG they are is measurable.I haven't measured it because I don't care to but you could quite easily take every game that counts as a JRPG by my definitions and lay out every mechanic that shows up in them and mathematically prove that some games have more ubiquitous mechanics than others and it wouldn't change anything because all of them are still JRPGs.Just because I would say another genre first over JRPG does not mean they're not also JRPGs.You're really fucking retarded man.
>>729893570Forgot pic
>>729893619Dark Souls is not a JRPG, it´s an action RPG
>>729893619>They all also happen to have other descriptors on top of that Yeah, like their actual genres. I'm not going to bring up Skyrim in a CRPG thread just because it and Wasteland 3 are both American games.
>>729893783It's both. Also I don't care to argue with someone that can't easily see that it's both.
>>729893619>Dark Souls is a JRPGConsidering Japan doesn't use the term JRPG and the term JRPG is used by the West to refer to a specific style of RPGs. It does not fit the name. Since the term has been coined, you cannot use it anymore to refer to RPGs that Japan has made since we're out of that era already. It's simply an Action RPG which is what most AAA RPGs are nowadays.
>>729884020JRPG is a subgenre of Strategy.
>>729893959You sound completely retarded and I don't care about this statement you've made at all. All I can say is "No.".
>>729893840They would technically be both WRPGs, CRPGs is a term that predates it due to technology and most RPGs being ported to computers.
>>729893783"JRPG" is not a genre. Never was, never will be. An ARPG can be a JRPG. Japan, in fact, created the first ARPG series.
>>729893842it´s not both, it´s an rpg, and an rpg made in Japan...it´s not the same thing as JRPG....so why are not Souls clones like Lies of P called JRPGs? While Expedition 33 and other western JRPG styled rpgs are?
>>729894041I'm relayin to you the status quo of video game genre nomenclature.
>>729894025Final Fantasy XIV, my favourite Strategy game!>>729894069>CRPG predates WRPGThen what the fuck is a WRPG?
>>729894103I think some anons have a hard time understanding that JRPGs have already been defined and they cannot wrap their heads around the idea that it no longer is "RPGs made by Japan" but rather "RPGs that WERE prominently made in Japan like Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest."
>>729894103Because people are fucking stupid.It's both.Lies of P is not a JRPG because it's Korean.Expedition 33 is not a JRPG because it's French."western JRPG styled rpgs" should get their own fucking name because they're not JRPGs and I haven't played a single one that I've liked. >>729894149The status quo is wrong and I don't care. I defined a JRPG already and that's the definition that matters.>>729894245I can wrap my head around it I just simply don't agree and I don't care what everyone else says. They don't care about JRPGs.
>>729894240The term came about in the 90s when Japan was creating hits with their own style of RPGs that players liked, called JRPGs.
JRPG is a term only Japanophiles get offended by.
>>729894368So...about as much of a genre as Slavjank is.
>>729894240xiv is an mmo
>>729883287This game is awful. I love BnS so i tried the magna carta games, but my lord the ingame models are hideous and the combat is so bad it hurts. The art from the hyung tae kim back then was great, even though in the last decade now its mostly shit and ai slop. I miss the old days of highly stylized art.
>>729894481MMORPG made in japan, so therefore according to this thread its a JRPG!
>>729883816>FRPG>FROGIt was staring us dead in the eyes all along
>>729894460Not entirely as slavjank is more broad and more akin to being buggy and sometimes low budget POST-Soviet era games when slavs were finally able to enter the video game industry.
>>729885251Play Magical Vacation gba
>>729883816its still a basic 7710 jrpg. Jrpg is not like manga where the place of origin matters. Its a game style at this point.
>>729883816France hasn't made anything distinct and with frequency that would earn them the moniker of FRPGs.
>>729894713>Its a game style at this point.That's what every anon in this thread understands and is saying except for one japanophile autist.
>>729894581>Not entirely as slavjank is more broadIt's just as broad as "WRPG" because what the fuck do you mean by "Western" It's just as broad as "JRPG" because what the fuck is a "Japanese RPG" other than an RPG made Japan?
>>729894545Tab Target MMO is it's own genre.
>>729894889JRPG is not an genre.
>>729883709anyone who disagrees with this is telling you that these 4 games are the same genre
>>729893619Holy shit it's HoiHoi-san.
>>729894985That's how you know I know what I'm talking about.: )
>>729894829Slavjank refers to games made by post-soviet slavs that were not really of high quality. Something like pic would be slavjank but it's technically a WRPG as well since they just borrow from the existing design philosophies of WRPGs without much distinct deviation like JRPGs have.
>>729894935Yes. All of them look to be RPGs made in Japan... I don't see an issue with this terminology.
>>729885251The only main games that were localized were the bad ones; and on top of that they all had terrible translations.>There’s something about the Swordcraft games that makes them more engaging, and it’s not just because of the action gameplay.The story, setting, characters, and summoning lore, which the main series developed.
>>729884916no they don't"gacha" is considered a genre because that's the core appeal of those games, not the actual gameplayhonkai star rail is the biggest turn based rpg of the last 5 years despite most existing circles of turn based rpgs fans not caring about it
>>729894829Slavjank literally is a derogatory term to refer to slavs making dogshit games that were ripoffs of many Western games while never admitting it. There is no distinctness other than they were low quality and prone to bugs, all of which are not design philosophies.
>>729895287The gameplay mechanic is the gacha. Everything is tied around it.
>>729894356so, why are there only JRPGs? Why are there no Jplatformers, JFPS, Jstrategies? Have you thought about it?
>>729895064Planet Alcatraz was directly inspired by Fallout, it's a CRPG made in Russia, Slavjank is not a genre but just a term used to describe janky games from Slav regions of europe that made their way to english speaking territories. The same applies to JRPG which only exists as a term not because its an actual fucking genre but its just a general term to describe rpgs specifically from japan. You know, just like how we use Bollywood to refer to Indian movies, Nollywood to refer to Nigerian ones or the term Hong Kong Cinema
close enough. fuck you
>>729895287Because gacha is a dealbreaker or a dealmaker for most. Same shit with roguelike.
>>729891949I like this one
>>729895395Because westerners made up the term JRPG and the definition was Japanese RPGs made in JAPAN. Other games were already made in Japan so they had no reason to make a distinction.Western RPGs were made first so they made up JRPG for console games made by the Japs that were RPGs.Why does any of this matter? It doesn't change a god damn thing about anything.
>>729895551You're almost getting it. >Planet Alcatraz was directly inspired by Fallout, it's a CRPG made in Russia, Slavjank is not a genre but just a term used to describe janky games from Slav regions of europe that made their way to english speaking territories. Which is why it isn't a genre, but rather a derogatory (or endearing) term.>The same applies to JRPG which only exists as a term not because its an actual fucking genre but its just a general term to describe rpgs specifically from japanWhich is the part you cannot understand because back then, Japan was making something distinct from the "Western RPGs" at the time which many people liked, hence they earned the moniker. It doesn't apply to any RPGs now that is being made by other nations unless they invent a new design philosophy that becomes successful nobody has seen yet. IT USED TO BE CALLED THAT as a shorthand because Japan was making a DISTINCT-style of an RPG.
>>729895838>Japan was making something distinct from the "Western RPGs"They were not distinct, this is where the disconnect comes from. DESCRIBE HOW A JRPG PLAYS.
>>729894928Correct, it's a subgenre of Strategy.
>>729895831>Because westerners made up the term JRPG and the definition was Japanese RPGs made in JAPANThis has an asterisk to it. *made in JAPAN that was distinct from the usual RPGs that Americans were playing.
>>729883490Asian games were only on xbox at the time because the ps3 wasn't a realistic option for most people until the price was lowered later on and the wii was literally a fucking gamecube these things together gave microsoft a chance to actually broaden their appeal.
>>729894935I see 2 Strategy games on top, and 2 Action games on the bottom.
>>729895923A JRPG (Japanese Role-Playing Game) is a genre of RPGs originating from Japan, known for strong, linear narratives, pre-defined characters, epic fantasy settings, anime-inspired visuals, and tactical, often turn-based combat systems with deep character progression. Key examples include Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and Persona, focusing on story and character growth, distinguishing them from Western RPGs (WRPGs).
>>729895923gameplay doesn't fucking matter, the main appeal of a jrpg is that it's made in japan, it's why no one had issues with kingdom hearts and tales being classified as jrpgs
>>729895948This doesn't matter. If Japan made Baldur's Gate it'd be a JRPG. Be better.
>>729896142If they made a JRPG Baldur's Gate I think people will play it due to the success of E33.
RPG isn't even a real genre anymore, and hasn't been since the early 80s. Most games claiming to be RPGs are just other genres with bastardized RPG mechanics stapled on.
>>729896205all rpg ever meant in the video game space was stat growth
>>729883593I was so happy to see that nigga kim come back from the gachaslop mines with stellar blade. That man can draw a woman
Pretty mindless game but it was pretty and worked for my childlike brain at the time.
>>729896205It's been diluted due to the rise of advanced computing tech. It wouldn't make sense to a zoomer or a alphafag since they're just entering the market without the prior history or lived experience of seeing it evolve and diverge.
>>729896079>strong, linear narratives, pre-defined characters, epic fantasy settings, anime-inspired visualsNothing to do with GAMEPLAY> tactical, often turn-based combat systems with deep character progressionThis IS to do with GAMEPLAY and HAS NOTHING UNIQUE TO JAPANESE GAMES SPECIFICALLY> focusing on story and character growthLIKE EVERY FUCKING STORY FOCUSED RPG IN EXISTANCE, DEAR GOD. AND THIS DOESN'T EVEN APPLY TO EVERY JRPG EITHER; LUNATIC DAWN, ELMINAGE GOTHIC, ETRIAN ODYSSEY, MEGAMI TENSEI(NOT SHIN), POKEMON RED AND GREEN -- THE LIST GOES ON. >>729896115>gameplay doesn't fucking matterTHEN IT'S NOT A GENRE AIEEEEEEE
>>729896360Did you not refer to the examples as a intuitive metric?
>>729896287Then that would make RPG a subgenre of the other major genres.
>>729896406Speak english nigga
kino
>>729896287It's more of a design philosophy of attributive character via playing which is made more conducive with stat growth and such.
>>729883287never got an xbox worth an emulate?
I mean it sucks if your nation hasn't really made any groundbreaking vidya game philosophies to have it be attributed as a distinct genre but should've had your shit together first in the 90s.
>>729896698What does a JRPG play like?
>>729883287>everyone arguing over the definition of RPG>when they should be posting more of this character's titsi expect better
>>729896789If it plays like Chrono Trigger.
>What kinda games do you like?>Mostly JRPGs.>Oh so like Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest?>No you retard, Dark Souls and Dragon's Dogma.
>>729896878Fire Emblem bros...Pokemon bros...Grandia bros...Final Fantasy brosWe aren't JRPGs...
>>729895564Holy BASED
>>729896996Final Fantasy counts as well as Persona. Just use the golden standards of JRPG to know how a JRPG plays like so you won't get confused since many of the derivatives stem from that. Fire Emblem is more indicative of a tactics RPG than your archetypal JRPG.
>>729897135Persona, SMT and Final Fantasy play nothing like Chrono Trigger.
>>729895564THE GOD of JRPG flash games.
>>729897206It bears huge resemblances and is part of the gold standard of what counts as a JRPG. Sort of like how Fallout and Infinity Engine games are the gold standard of the modern-day CRPGs and in turn, what defines them. The 90s were the decade to define game genres.
This video should just be stickied until this board significantly levels up.https://youtube.com/watch?v=qIB75Hrh-QA
>>729897374>It bears huge resemblancesTo Wizardry, the first Wasteland game, Utlimna and other turn-based RPGs of the 80's and 70's, you are essentially saying that JRPG only describes derivatives which reinforces that it doesn't make sense to call JRPG a genre.
>>729897497I don't care what some whiteniggers on youtube say
>>729897497It's usually the younger people, japanophiles and some other pedantics that don't understand or refuse to use the term. It's same with late-millenials/zoomers propagating dogshit terms like boomer shooter and soulslike
>>729897656Those have it as its DNA yes but the definitive forms are of those examples. Please actually play the games you've cited because I have and while JRPGs took heavy inspiration from them, they sprouted out into the mainstream to influence game design for people at large. Most people who like or make JRPGs will cite their inspirations from these gold standards alone. It's what's known as an epoch in video game history.
>>729897881>Please actually play the games you've cited because I have and while JRPGs took heavy inspiration from them, they sprouted out into the mainstream to influence game design for people at large.Which doesn't make it a GENRE>Most people who like or make JRPGs will cite their inspirations from these gold standards aloneWhich doesn't make it a GENRE
>>729883287ummmmm ackshully this game is korean
>>729897998On a related note, do you think boomer shooter, soulslikes and MOBAs/dotaclones aren't genres?
>>729883287This game was actually not bad. It was basically FFXII-lite. I apprecate how every woman in the game had huge boobs.
>>729898064boomer shooters are a style of FPSsoulslikes is a style of Action RPGMOBA is a genre since it does actually describe a specific type of gameplayWhat fucking point did you think you were making?
>>729898170So subgenres? Also MOBA/dotaclones is a subgenre of RTS, hence them being called ARTS.
>>729898295Not subgenres plural, subgenre singular. For example Remnant 2 is a soulslike and a third person shooter, Witchfire is a soulslike and a first person shooter.
>>729892559Good Lord, Cross Edge was awful, and this is coming from someone who loves grindy JRPGs. Beyond the Beyond would be my JRPG that nobody I've ever met in person has played. I've only ever found people who played it online. It's honestly not that bad if you're emulating it, but it's kind of a pain in the dick on original hardware. It's made by Camelot and feels a lot like their prototype for Golden Sun's battle system in ways. >>729893391Fucking useless ass Samson and his dumb fucking curse.
>>729898498Yes, subgenres, which is a type of genre but with more specificity. You can have RPG that's also a shooter. See: Bethesda Fallout.
>>729897000trips of truth
>>729895564This is an JRPG
>>729898758Because Shooters are a subgenre of action game. What you listed in >>729898170 only has a single subgenre, MOBA, the rest are STYLES of game.
>>729898872I mean to point to this >>729898064, AIEEEEEEE
>>729898872I get the feeling that you don't actually know what genre means if you're distinguishing it from style.gen·re/ˈZHänrə/nounnoun: genre; plural noun: genres a category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, characterized by similarities in form, style, or subject matter.
>>729898964oh, well video games aren't artistic compositions so i guess games can't have genres :^)
>>729898964Games genres are categorised by GAMEPLAY, so YOU literally do not understand what is meant by game genre.
