Should I buy the FFVII Remake and Rebirth combo or the Kingdom Hearts series? They're both the same price on Steam.
>>729883917Remake and rebirth are extremely tedious gamesThe kingom hearts games are as a whole a better package anyways, even if there are some stinkers in it like DDD
>>729883917Kingdom Hearts
>>729883917Two sucky remakes or an entire series for you to play and go through. Not a hard decision. Get Kingdom Hearts.
>>729884069>>729884119>>729884227I completely forgot I had a jailbroken PS4 laying around somewhere. Isn't the whole Kingdom Hearts series on there?
>>729883917KH series is vastly better than Demake and Stillbirth.
>>729883917aren't the KH PC ports dogshit?
>>729884474I have no idea
>>729883917Buy Remakebirth
>>729884474they AI upscaled the textures in the steam version, but personally I don't think it's that noticeable, anyway, there's a mod to restore them to their not-upscaled version
>>729884474Yes. Better to just emulate.>>729885307There's a bunch of audio issues as well. Not sure if there's a mod that fixes them.
>>729884312It is yeahBut technically no.Games like 358/2 days and re:coded are made into movies instead of being playable games. Said games can be easilly emulated though
Anything that is not Kingdom Hearts is the right choices
>>729883917Kingdom Hearts is much better than FFVII's pseudo-sequel/remake, but the PC ports aren't the best way to play the old ones.
>>729885479I might just play them there and emulate the movies then. Rebirth and Intergrade isn't on PS4 iirc so I probably should get it on Steam. How difficult are those games to run?
>>729885867Melon mix ds emulator has special builds just for days and recodedThey are very easy to emulateI dont know the performance of the new ff7 games on pc with respect to performance
>>729886046Rebirth may struggle on anything less than a 1080ti perf wise but there are engine tweaks if you're fine with stuff popping into full detail when you're an inch away
>>729883917KH series and play the original FF7 instead
>>729883917What kind of subhuman manchild are you?
>>729883917imagine thinking this is an actual decision worth making a fucking thread over
>>729885697There are some audio quirks but i do think with all the control changes it is the beat way to play it in my opinion.Ps2 kh1 is a bit rough with the shoulder camera.Emulating kh2 final mix with the english patch is better though for sure
Sex with monkey coded kh1 selphie
>>729883917As a kingdom hearts fan who actually likes 358 Days, BBS, and DDD, do yourself a favor and buy the final fantasy games. Just trust me.
>>729886464>>729886597Genuinely what are you so upset about? It's just a question. Are you mad that someone is actually talking about video games on this board for once?
>>729883917Do not gove your money to squeenixThe fate of vidya is at stakePossibly the fate of all the worldWe must defeat this evil!
>>729883917Neither. Both are garbage
>>729887076Bro kys, awful post
>>729887076What's wrong with Kingdom Hearts?
>>729887230What about those games are garbage?
>>729883917give money to square enix or give money to both square enix and disney. your choice anon
>>729887742The dull mindless overly easy combat.
>>729885307They are noticeable. The mod doesn't fix all the textures
>>729883917You can get a legit 100% not gray market key on Green man gaming right now for cheaper.
>>729883917Remake and Rebirth are the superior games. Only get Kingdom Hearts if you really love Disney shit.
>>729887742It's been covered itt. The poor AI upscales and audio issues of the KH collection. The censorship and unfinished nature of Remake series. Both series are mid
>>729887370No. They were good and I will die on this hill. >>7298874763 ended terribly, and it's in an eternal limbo. We will never have a satisfying conclusion to anything, save for the Days and BBS trio having finality. It's not worth getting invested.
>>729883917KH series has one good game (1)Remakes have no good games
>>729888571You have clearly never played Remake and Rebirth. Rebirth on hard is Dark Souls levels of difficult.
>>729888660The FFVII combo is actually 1 cent more than on Steam.
>>729883917I'll do what I can to secure as many sales for all these games, but my primary mission is the promotion of VIIR.
>>729883917Buy remake+rebirth. Rebirth especially is a very good game
>>729888967Rebirth on Normal is painful. Fuck the Cait Sith solo section.
>>729888967jesus, this looks like dogshit
>>729889195Not uncommon for braindead turn-trannies, that only know how spam the x button.
No point buying remake and rebirth since SE are just going to sell a definitive trilogy collection when the third game comes out.
>>729889332where pupper?
>>729889395It will be years until the definitive trilogy happens AND is cheap.
>>729889427doesn't fit the narrative
>>729889470
>>729889470I don't think anything can stop this autism
You can safely ignore the retards suggesting 2 fucking games over like 6 of them.Kingdom hearts all in one package is OBJECTIVELY a better deal over the ff7 remakesThe games are also far more replayable too. Absolutey insane anyone is saying to get the ff7 gamea over kh here
>>729889427>Spam X on Darkstar>Spam X on Rufus>Use Braver or not, it doesn't matterWhat are you trying to prove?
>>729889332ah, much bettter
>>729888967Damn, barely been using these skills.Gotta up my game for hard mode it seems.Barret looks like a bear wearing a marshmallow btw
>>729889723pupper's location
>>729888967That webm only proves his point.
They're both equally abhorrent, so I guess whichever one you think you can jerk off to easier, cause that's all you'll get outta them.
>>729889654>25th DecGrim
>>729888967>Rebirth on hard is Dark Souls levels of difficult.That is why they hate it. There is nothing that turn faggot hates more than combat.I used to be a regular on the RPG codex. All those boomer retards would do is praise turn-based games, only to create endless amounts of threads about how shit combat is. It was really tiresome.
>any FFVII game ever>challengingPick one.
>>729889834>pupper's locationDead. Killed by spamming the X button.
>>729890446isn't X the back button in 7
>>729890481yes
>>729890176bro you've been posting about this for over 5 years, and used to be a regular on a forum? it's time to stop larping as a gen z. you're old as shit.
>>729890543...
>>729888967>Enemy telegraphs for a full 3.5s>>>>HardLet me guess, the enemy has two moves and a third "ultimate" attack, and that's it? Nothing is hard if it can never actually hit you. It's why Souls game are very easy on replays. Their difficulty stems from a variety of sources like mobs, enemy placement, telegraph times, and of course, the generally unforgiving save system/stress of backtracking.The pattern changes often between levels and bosses, which makes for a strong difficulty spike early one, but subsides with muscle and pattern memory.With games like webm related (presumably, I've only played Remake) and say, for instance, the newly released Metroid Prime 4, which I'm wrapping up on """Hard""" Mode, it's piss easy because the enemy has no coded motivation to actually kill you. They're made to be defeated so the player can progress and feel successful, rather than to prevent progress and pose a challenge, so whatever statistical spike (damage done, health, the usual suspects for "difficulty" settings) exists becomes moot.In the immortal words of some white dude whose name I can never remember but was a lead designer of Halo 1 + 2;>The enemy has to be fun to shoot at, as well as be shot atAnd Final Fantasy has not, and arguably cannot achieve this end. Not for close to 40 years now. Never say never, I suppose, but it's clear the developers have no desire to design great games. Only great... experiences, so to speak, and shit even that's been a pretty murky field for 20 years now.
>>729889684Aren't the two FFVII games longer than most KH games?
>>729890861Depends how long you spend in Wonderland and/or the Jungle
Why IS Rebirth specifically so cheap? It just came out last year.
>>729890861Rebirth certainly is, but Remake is pretty close to KH1/2/3. In any case, you'll get way more hours from all of the KH games.
>>729891023Slop flopped.
>>729891023anon, I... it's 2026No but really, the game's two months from two years old, and didn't recoup the money spent developing it. At this point, the name of the game is spurring interest in Part 3, even if that means slapping bitches in the face with it.
>>729890861The ff7 games can be 30-40 hours, most of it being tedious as fuck, especially the open world slop oneKingdom hearts games can be 20 hours or so, bbs probs being the shortest of them all. These are far less restrictive games though. Way waaayy more fun to engage with than ff7 slopmakes
>>729888967>Rebirth on hard is Dark Souls levels of difficult.This is only true for bosses, though. Regular mobs aren't very difficult on hard mode.
>>729891156I meant it came out last year specifically on Steam. Usually it at least maintains it's price for a little bit longer even if the game flopped.
>>729883917i'll tell you the real deal. for as long as I been on /v/ which is way more than these fags I actually know when a game is good or not. you should get both if you're even considering both. these are the best action RPGs out there. Kingdom Hearts 1, 2, and 3 are very good action RPGs with a feeling that no other game has or could ever replicate. the other games included in the collection are a mixed bag, but if you end up liking the series, you'll like them for what they are. I'm a faggot for KH, but I know the flaws of each game. Soundtracks are amazing.Remake is a 7/10 but it's a 10/10 7/10. the combat system is unique as an action RPG and feels very good. Attacks have weight to them, cutscenes are very gorgeous. Game feels very high budget. Rebirth is a 10/10 and improved upon every single flaw from Remake. Superb combat system immensely improved in every single way. Even on normal it is challenging. Open world has a ton of shit to do, every side quest is unique. Outstanding soundtrack (remake as well of course). There are so many different attacks and mechanics and each character plays uniquely. Every open area has a different chocobo with different traversal mechanic (always get the chocobo asap). Tons of mini games but they actually feel like a nice break from the main game and they don't feel just shoehorned in, they're actually great, especially the card game which i got addicted to. I love KH, but Rebirth is one of the best games I ever played and I think it surpassed every KH game. Ignore the shitposts, none of them are genuine. I'm telling you I was blown away with this game and i played it non stop for days until I beat it, which is rare for me. I think if you are a big fan of action RPGs you will greatly appreciate these series in your collection.
>>729891256That holds true for jarpigs in general, with the odd strong enemy fucking you up.The closest Rebirth gets to these are minibosses in side quests or zone tasks.
>>729891256Not him, but are they actually difficult, or just tedious? I'm genuinely curious. None of the bosses in Remake were ever hard, it was just the superbosses, which were tediously annoying and nothing more.Does anything actually change in Hard Mode? I.E. Movesets, Timing, etc...
>>729891023They need to get as many people as possible to play it in order to maximize the third game's launch sales. They know that only people who've beat Rebirth are going to get the next one.
>>729891339It was already -30% on a preorder deal on Steam even before release.I got it for -50% and it’s really worth it.Combat wise if you play KH you can play FF7R, even if the minutia are far between.
>>729891423no items and generally no MP regen
>>729891351
>>729891423Hard mode has tweaked numbers and you can’t use items. Also MP regen by resting is severely limited.So it essentially forces you to get creative with spell use and healing by fiddling with the materia system.
>>729891351I'll probably play Kingdom Hearts on my jailbroken PS4 and play the FFVII duology later since my PC can't run Rebirth at a decent framerate.
I want to get the Steam ports of KH, but I keep seeing lots of reviews saying they're prone to crashing
>>729891639Rebirth has some weird stutter but in my case just running the game and nothing else prevents that completely.So it helped me also with brain rot alt tabbing.
>>729891701I haven't had a single crash but that might just be because I'm on Gentoo.
>>729891701I have played them multiple times on elic since they dropped thwre first. I never had a crash, but i did have some graphical issues with kh1. Most notably, there was a strange blue square texturing that appeared in some maps at some point. I think any issues are more tied to parts on the pc though, rather than the code of the game itself
>>729891023are you forgetting how quickly remake was a free PS+ download? lol
>>729891889I don't remember that honestly.
>>729884069DDD was kino
>>729891849Is your GPU an AMD by any chance?
>>729892026Cursed koala little shits.I hate the ones that cast balls and wind in your face.
>>729883917Skip the shitty remake that is actually a shitty sequel.Go for the Kingdom Hearts collections.
>>729892107balls in my face?
>>729889467And?
>>729883917FF7 and its not even close. Why would you play some old ass kids game that looks like shit
>>729892028I was full nvidia when i played them.I have currently switched to full amd and have not tested those games yet, but i have noticed other games that had little quirks in them, particularly dragons dogma and borderlands 2, no longer have the issues i had on my nvidia machine.
>>729892337I wanna play them sooner rather than later.
>>729891423Boss design in Rebirth is vastly superior. Bosses in Remake are easy even on hard mode, but not so in Rebirth. You will get your ass handed to you if you are not careful.>Does anything actually change in Hard Mode?Movesets stay mostly the same, bosses just hit a lot harder in hard mode, which emphasizes tactical gameplay. You will be forced to use synergy skills, defend and also be very mindful when you can attack. Some bosses will even one shot you if you are not careful. You cannot use any items like phoenix down in hard mode, so if you mess up, then you will often have to restart.
Kingdom hearts. 1-2 are both 10/10 the rest are fine not great but not total shit.Kh2fm on critical mode is the best action game ever made.>kids gameOpinion discarded. A game is a game. Video games are inherently aimed towards children anyway. Making a big deal out of needing mature grownup games for mature grownups like myself is the gayest shit ever and you are a humongous faggot. If you cared so much about mature shit find a different hobby
>>>729892962I only played rebirth on normal, but that final boss is insanely hard. I don't care what anyone says. the climax in remake was also really hard for me on normal.
>>729893046What about 3? I played KH2 back when it released then BBS on PSP and never touched the series since.>>729893273Damn. I did 100% Remake but still am halfway through Redditbirth and some fights on Normal severely punished my lack of attention or preparation.
>>729893273>the climax in remake was also really hard for me on normal.I got my ass handed to me by Abzu five times in a row on my first playthrough, then I swept the floor with him on hard. The combat system in Remake and Rebirth is quite unique and will require some time to become proficient with.
>>729893572Once you stop putting whatever materia on slots just so they level and start associating enemy move names with their animation things go way smoother, even if you can’t use items and damage is way higher.There are some bullshit fights in the arena you get swarmed or severely pressured but these are very rare.
>>729893406people shit on 3 , but it's really good. at launch, it was a little disappointing, but they updated it a year later and improved the combat. the DLC also had 14 superbosses that are very well designed and worth your time. you have to play on critical and choose pro codes in the beginning of the game. pro codes allow you to completely turn off some of the games mechanics, such as attractions which are basically Disney Ride summons that are overpowered and just overall distracting
I dislike stagger as a mechanic but I will get the games eventually
>>729894052it works really well in these games. its not like ff13
>>729883917FF7 remakes are more RPG and Kingdom Hearts is more action with some platforming. I still enjoyed the FF7 remakes way more.
>>729883917Have you played and enjoyed OG FFVII and Remake? If you have, get Rebirth, if not, get KH.
>>729888967I don't like how synergy skills teleport your party member to you. They should quickly leap over to you or something, but Aerith can teleport.
>>729894052The stagger mechanic is honestly really great and it feels very rewarding, whenever you successfully pull it off.
>>729894492I like it. if it happened that way it would be unnecessarily clunky. you could position them better that way
>>729894492Yeah, cosmetically it isn't very good and could be improved.
>>729891423No items and mainly just more damage, which means the margin for error is much smaller. There's nothing wrong with the AI in normal mode, it's already hard to avoid damage, so just taking more damage is an appropriate way to up the difficulty.
When I died to Materia Keeper I knew I had to git gud in RebirthAlso the music is decent but I wish they used the classic battle/boss themes more frequently during the main story.
>>729892962Hard mode in part 1 was basically more like new game plus rather than an actual hard mode, so you can have all your materia and abilities from the beginning. I already wasn't using items in normal mode to make it more challenging, so I didn't see any difference. Hard mode actually be harder in Rebirth was nice.
>>729894052It's not that centralized, you don't have to stagger to deal most of the damage. Bosses eventually just become staggered even if you weren't going for it, but if any enemy becomes "pressured" you do want to use an ability that greatly increases the stagger meter.
>>729894975Hell House in Part 1 Hard mode actually gave me a lot of trouble for whatever reason but I don't remember being bothered by anything else.Maybe the solo Rufus fight demanded a little extra care, too.
>>729894943Theres a mod for that
>>729894584I mean purely aesthetically, make it mechanically active as soon as you press it. But just show an actual animation of the character rushing over, characters like Cloud, Tifa, and Red already use moves that make them move retardedly fast.
>>729894943It's just a consequence having them be multiple games, they already used the normal battle theme a ton in part 1. It still plays sporadically through the game, and it's nice that they actually go through the effort of creating so many songs and making it feel like an actual new game.
I hope they change Cloud's punisher mode again in part 3. Even though it felt shittier in Rebirth it was the right call because it was too busted in part 1. But since they already changed it they might as well follow the trend of changing up your moveset between games.
>>729895532The way they used it for Airbuster and also Jenova in Part 1 was peak fanservice.They jumped the gun with Sephiroth overuse but having a Jenova piece be fought early was a nice surprise, after all it had just escaped the facility.
>>729895672True, I thought the same. his punisher mode in remake feels way heavier and more badass
How the hell are they going to implement Vincent's limits in this version. Make him into a mini summon?
pirate both. save 100 bux
>>729883917Kingdom Hearts 3 and install the Kairi, Xion and Namine nude mods
