>2026>still no answerLet's settle this.
>>729884018i think OP is the biggest faggot of them all
n64 is the clear winner
It's the same with all businesses>The company that provides good-priced and fair goods will never be successful as the company that thrives on brand alone.
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>>729884018>single playerPSX>multiplayer N64>ports of games better off played at the arcade saturnas a friendless loser I'll take the playstation today, but the bulk of my childhood gaming was on the 64 with friends
>>729884265are we using the umbrella logo or in the nights in to dreams logo or something else
>>729884265And there goes all the Saturn's processing power.
playkstation
>>729884018PS1 by far. We’re talking a system with 50+ good games vs like 10 good games on N64. People today still play and talk about Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy etc etc. Ain’t nobody playing Goldeneye in 2026 lmao.
ps1 if you want as much content as possible (cd-rom)n64 if you want the best 3d graphics (sgi)saturn if you want to make the best 2d game (princess crown)
>>729884508awesome game
>>729884265>>729884508>>729884635If you want a Saturn, your head is in Uranus.
It doesn't matter you fucking roach. Talk about the games, not what corporation that you gave 30 years ago you have the most allegiance to.Can't believe I have to live in the same world as vermin like you.
>>729884018The PS1 is the winner and this is coming from someone who believes Nintendo didn't release a single bad game on that console themselves. They just couldn't hard-carry that console into first place.
>>729884018PS1
>>729884935>that you gave MONEY 30 years ago
>>729884935>>729885028But I never gave them money, my parents did.
>>729884018They all sucked.PC was where the fun was at.
>>729884018Playstation. For every great game on N64, Playstation had at least 10 of the same genre. I can't think of a single game worth playing on Saturn.
>>729884018Ps1 and it's not even remotely close. All those legendary games and they had a functional controller.
>>729885524t.never played a saturn game
Ps1>Saturn>>>N64
>>729885754Beat em ups were last gen shit, people had moved on.
>>729884265why is n64 at 30 fps
>>729885754Princess Crown is a fucking gorgous game that kind of plays like ass. Which even Kamitani apparently realized since none of his games since have used its combat system.
>>729885964That's dumb, that's like saying action games, strategy games, platformers are bad because people had "moved on" terrible argument>>729886127>what is Odin Sphere
Was the Saturn only big in America or what? I'm in Europe and back then I never even heard of the Saturn and literally nobody had one. Literally everyone had a PS1 and then some people, myself included, also had an N64. But I never knew anyone at all with a Saturn. I also never knew anyone who only had an N64. If someone had an N64 they also had the PS1. As far as I knew back then SEGA went from the Megadrive to the Dreamcast. I didn't find out about the Saturn until I was way older.
>>729886353>what is Odin SphereA game that doesn't use PC's combat system, for one thing.
>>729886404No the Saturn flopped everywhere except Japan, in which it was SEGA's best selling console there. There were some pretty terrible marketing decisions by SEGA of America.Japan had some funny advertisements though.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc3AK8k90xw>>729886648You played Leifthrasir didn't you?
>>729884018Ps1 was the jrpg and fighting king N64 was the racing and adventure action kingSaturn was ignored by everyone I knew
>>729886404Saturn was only big in Japan, according to Google it sold 5 mil there, 1.8 mil in the US and 1 mil in Europe. For comparison, Playstation sold 40 mil in both the US and Europe, 20 mil in Asia.
>>729886805>You played Leifthrasir didn't you?I had both the PS2 and Vita versions. While superficially similar it a) doesn't lock you into a one-on-one fighting game window for every encounter, b) allows you to freely move and fly around the environment during combat and c) every attack and action doesn't have the sluggishness and commitment of an articulated overloaded truck. So no, it's not the same combat system, it's one that's markedly similar and different largely by virtue of not being complete garbage.
>>729886020N64 only had five 3D games running at 60fps. More if you count 2D games. PS1 and Saturn both had way more 60fps titles.
>>729884018PS Single is best 20th century home console, a good deal better than the Sneszz (arguably the 2nd place).I would also place the Saturn above the N64 if I could speak / read Japanese, Saturn's JPN library is very solid.>>729884265This webm is hilarious, you can just tell a SEGA fan made this. Saturn also suffered from texture perspective issues (warping, clipping, etc), just less so than the PS Single. Burning Rangers runs like the game world is about to break apart at any given moment.
>>729887575The Saturn one is highlighting the issues with using quads as tris, it's not complimentary.
>>729884018The Sega Saturn was out of this world.
>>729884018N64 had more 9/10 and 10/10 games, but PS1 had a far more stacked library of 7/10+ games.
>>729888603Cope.
>>729888117The Sega Saturn stank like the ring of uranus
>>729887132I mean of course Odin Sphere was created with lessons learnt from princess crown, and a more complex system to run it on. >doesn't lock you into a one-on-one fighting game window for every encounterFair enough, it doesn't personally bother me, I don't think it makes the game worse.>allows you to freely move and fly around the environment during combatThere's nothing wrong with having a more grounded approach to movement, if anything I appreciate that Gradriel isn't special in any particular way outside of her royal status.>every attack and action doesn't have the sluggishness and commitment of an articulated overloaded truckAttacks have commitment, it's similar to how the original Castlevanias played with the whip delay and jumps you can't change direction mid air, the POW system especially with using the charged attack is a good example given it makes you completely vulnerable after usage.There are tons of items and spells to use as well to assist as you progress through the game as well.I'm not arguing it's the same combat system, I like how Odin Sphere evolved the combat into something fresh, but it doesn't make Princess Crown bad because the sequel did something different, or that they don't share similarities. It's pretty clear Odin Sphere is gameplay wise a sequel to Princess Crown, just with different priorities. Classicvania is still great even after Igavanias replaced it.
>>729888621How? PS1 was obviously the better buy in that situation. N64 just has more game that people still bother to talk about in the modern day, that doesn't translate to the N64 having been a better value at the time.
>>729888791The N64 has what 3 games that are still talked about? PS1 has far more.
>>729884265>PS1 has stutter/wobble>N64 has 30fps>Saturn has using quads as tris
>>729888769My point was that Kamitani evidently didn't consider the crude combat system of PC worth holding onto or revisiting, even if you consider OS as being a more polished version of it (in itself a fairly tenuous claim considering the sheer extent of the differences), going further into Muramasa and Dragon's Crown, they all but strip what little remained of PC's mechanics in favor of a more responsive and less restrictive approach to combat. Maybe saying that Princess Crown plays like ass isn't strictly fair and I'll concede it does have some charm that adds verisimilitude to the premise that Gradriel is a princess and not really a warrior, but at the end of the day I'd never consider it a game with combat that's fun to play and Vanillaware ultimately dropping it for a streamlined approach suggests the devs felt the same way.
>>729888857which exclusives?
>>729887575>This webm is hilarious, you can just tell a SEGA fan made this. Saturn also suffered from texture perspective issues (warping, clipping, etc)Look at the webm again. Saturn's triangles are not actual triangles.
>>729888261>Sony is japanese for "Satan"The word "Satan" is literally just a derivative of "Saturn"
>>729889354I mean I am in agreement with you that it is a technically less polished, less complex game and has a lot of flaws due to troubled development and issues like that. It's hard to know how much of the game's design was due to these factors. It could be possible that the heavier focus on streamlined combat from Vanillaware was due to Princess Crown's commercial failure. >but at the end of the day I'd never consider it a game with combat that's fun to playI mean fair enough, I definitely felt similar when first playing but after getting used to the combat I started to appreciate it for what it is and represents for Gradriel's character. It is fun in my opinion, but I'd be lying if I said Odin Sphere didn't improve the combat substantially.
G.A.S.P. is only on N64 though
>>729884018N64 was my favorite but the uncomfortable joystick takes it down a notch
>>729884018Playstation has the best game library and the best hardware design and the best marketing and had the best magazines. But N64 had Mario.
>>729890546This.
n64 has the many legendary games butPSX is the king my nigga dude!!Saturn has the weakest library
>>729884508>>729884635this game sucks and you only like it because of the princess' design
>>729893178(You)
>>729884018n64 had the highest highs, but PS1 has the largest library of good games. Saturn isn't even on the same planet as the other two.
>>729893479>Saturn isn't even on the same planet as the other two.heh
>>729884018>Are you a literal retard or Sonic R fan? Or Japanese boomer?Saturn>Are you queer or a woman?N64>All others:PS
