I'll just stick to classics. I don't even play modern AAA slop as it is.

I say based, fuck system requriements

sure jeet, any day now

>>729885501
a 5000 euro or dollar top end consumer GPU is something you every generation or second generation
Which means 2-5 years
That's 2500 a year at most
That's 48 euro or dollars a week

If you cannot afford the price of a cheap dinner once per week at a lower class restaurant, then top end GPUs are not for you, poor.

>>729885501
what games will I play on it that I can't play now on my 1080?

>>729885501
No it's not, I don't know why everybody keeps parroting this bullshit.
The average person doesn't have good enough internet, the average person doesn't live anywhere near their servers current and planned locations, business wise they'd be better off renting their GPUs to AI companies and most importantly, you're a retard if you think the average person is going to subject themselves to subpar gameplay and graphics after spending years on current gen. Let's not forget that they have to throttle at their current "peak hours" despite being an expensive niche service, they lack the scale, every business lacks the scale.

It's not like everybody is selling their hardware and PCs capable of running current gen games are going to disappear either.

The only thing that's going to happen is that graphics will "stagnate" at realistic ray traced and both game and game engine developers will have to optimise hard.

>>729886114
GTA VI

i will continue to use linux and amd
no thanks

>>729886241
I can see it. 2027, GTA VI launches for streaming.
No PC release.

>>729886194
Yes it is. Streaming games will become the standard eventually. You will continue to own nothing, You will wait in a queue, You will be stopped after a 3 hour session.

>>729886365
*pulls out my old celeron and boots up fallout 2 from my cd*

>>729886194
>you're a retard if you think the average person is going to subject themselves to subpar gameplay and graphics after spending years on current gen

They already do this without streaming LMAO

>>729885501
still using a 2060 i got for dirt cheap years ago at black friday

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So this finally kills gaming? I can't see it surviving when parts cost so much. We all think it's bad now, it'll get so much worse when China flattens Taiwan.

>>729885501
In 5 years the 5090 will be worth maybe $400 if that.

The AI bubble will be used as an excuse to force SAAS on us. The prices will remain high and availability will keep dropping while they trap us with cloud computing subscription services via price dumping, only to bombard is with price increases and ads later on. You WILL own nothing and be happy. You WILL eat the bugs.

>>729886887
>he doesn't know
this is being done on purpose. prices are never going to drop its fucking OVER.

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>>729885501
I will not use it. If the choice is between cloud and no vidya at all, I will quit vidya. I simply refuse.

>>729887046
Yeah they will. People paid $1800 for a 2080ti 5 years ago. That was the holy grail of a a build at the time. Now it's not even worth $400 lol

>>729887283
it was a different world back then

>>729887368
technology gets outdated quickly. the 5090 in 5 years will be old and we'll probably be on 64gb vram cards

>>729885501
Unless devs find out ways to retroactively make old games require a 5090 then I don't think I will. There are enough old games for a lifetime, thank you very much.

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>>729885501
>you will all eventually use it
nah i'll just play old games. it's a solid 10 years before this hits the mainstream at least, assuming the worst case scenario i'll just buy a solid PC then and just play old games. i already play old shit or indies, so i'll just start hoarding old games and that's it. why should i play anything new? why should i watch anything new? this will last me like 20 years probably, then i'll be 75 and probably dead, and if not i'll just figure something out

>>729887532
in 5 years there will be a global war over water

>>729886060
>If you cannot afford the price of
i can
i just won't buy it, simple us
>but
no

>>729887667
Great
Then you are too poor to buy one

>>729887835
we need servers that separate rich people from third world poorfags. You should have to show paystubs or tax returns at the minimum.

nvidia wants this so it will happen

>>729887835
>won't spent my money on shit i don't need like a retard
>"then you are poor!"
you are beneath me

>>729888435
>>won't spent my money on shit i don't need like a retard
you play video games? You already spend your money on shit you don't need.

name 5 games that need a 5k $ graphics card

>>729888435
No, you can't afford it because you deduced it's not worth spending money on
Thus you cannot afford it
Like you cannot afford anything else you don't invest fully into
Do you buy a car with only three wheels and never buy the fourth?

Gaming has levels, anon
If you do not want the top end rig, fine. Stop bitching that others can afford it

>>729885501
Geforce Now Ultimate has always been a MUCH better value than owning and continuously upgrading a top-end rig. It has nothing to do with RAM shortages, but obviously that amplifies the effect.

>>729885501
I'll just play new games on my PS6 then.

>>729886114
A ton of them. I was surprised how much more I enjoyed games when I didn't have to install them before playing.

>>729889153
Why do you think consoles will be immune to the ram/gpu shortages? They don't fab their own chips to make the consoles, they get them from the same suppliers that PC part manufacturers do.

>>729886194
>walltext
Just say you've never used Geforce Now.

>>729885501
The great thing about this is that it runs all the games supposedly "unplayable" on Steam Deck.

>>729889101
>>729889296
geforce now is based if you live in a first world country

>>729889101
Hey there, Jensen.

>>729887157
Same, maybe I'll get a dog and an actual hobby

>>729888885
i mostly don't, i pirate everything, also
>you spent money on thing X
>so you should spend money on thing Y too!
no

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>>729885501
There's no goddamn way we have the infrastructure to handle literally everyone being forced to stream games. At best this will somehow just result in the actual death of gaming, reverting back into a niche market only now it's more of an underground activity since most people will be forced to play on older existing systems.

>implying you'll be allo-
I actually kind of hate this claim. No, they won't ban personal computing devices. That is doomer bait. They won't have to anyway if the industry just outright collapses. Better it's done that way because a straight ban might actually pass the normies off and that's like the one boundary they always respect. The psy ops don't work otherwise.

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>>729889019
>this entire post

>>729887978
Its called playstation plus

>>729889652
>There's no goddamn way we have the infrastructure to handle literally everyone being forced to stream games
If the entire third world is filtered yes we do

>>729888435
Think it's time for a healthy reminder that a lot of these posts are literal shitposts. You're the fool for taking it seriously in the first place. You are literally encouraged to pretend to be retarded in a place like this. It's better to not engage then take it to heart, because now you're just validating their efforts.

>>729889286
It still won't be a streaming box like PCs are becoming. Sony will just gimp the PS6 hardware if things get rough. And since PS is already the main development platform for every game, PC streaming games will adapt to PS6 specs.

>>729889872
i know anon, however i just want to call shit out for what it is, dumb shitposting or shilling or whatever the pajeets have thought of. it's futile but i just can't help it. i remember the old board culture, so yeah

>>729889862
They literally have been allowing said third world to enter over the past couple of years, they cannot undo that no matter what.

you're poor unless you have the pro 6000

>>729885501
5900€ gpus isn't their goal. It's you subscribing to their shitty geforce now so they Can get the steady income out of you, every month.

>>729885501
>Nvidia sells a graphics card for $1000
>Gets that money instantly
>Nvidia sells a $20/month Geforce Now subscription
>Has to wait over 4 years (50 months) to get the same amount of money
Retarded schizo logic.

>>729886365
>>729886060

Nigger a mid range card costs a few hundred bucks at the very mot. You can get a 5070 for like 400€.
Theres basically no way the price of a streaming service can beat building your own PC with all the overhead it carries plus the shareholder tip and guaranteed enshittification.

The only people who givea rats ass abotu muh high end cards are a minority of hyperspergs who goon to the Benchmarks they run on their PCs.
Even if those cards were half the price they are a waste of money unless you spend all you have on your PC build due to being a friendless loser.

>>729889985
I feel that. Bait was easier to digest back in the day when I didn't feel like it was actively indicative of civilization's collapse. Nowadays I feel obligated to take every post here seriously in spite of the glowies and tourists and it's fucking gay.

>>729885501
Consoles will continue to be the better option, Sony and Nintendo can lock in lock term agreements for hardware, push you into buying one with exclusives and offer both streaming and downloads so it's more of a cap on PC high end growth

>>729890114
The idea is that a lot more people are willing to get a 20$ sub than they are to drop 1000 on something
Its intended to be more accessible and tempting

>>729889652
> There's no goddamn way we have the infrastructure to handle literally everyone being forced to stream
Why do yo think they are spending trillions of dollars in datacenters for a technology that is best employed in local, project oriented solutions?
> No, they won't ban personal computing devices
They don’t need to ban anything. They will just make the alternative unaffordable.

Why would I worry about fearmongering like this when even the shitty pc sitting in my closet can emulate anything I'd want to play just fine?

>>729890246
They will scam nintendo and sony this way too, resulting in consoles costing 800$+, at which point pc would still be more attractive of an option
As for the usual poor families that rely on cheaper consoles, they get fucking nothing instead, little timmy just wont have a console now, and since a very large part of console sales are those families...

>>729890114
It’s about control. At a certain point, that becomes more important than liquid money. Do you really think it makes a difference if Nvidia is worth 5 or 10 trillion dollars? No, they need to find a way to convert that cash into hard power.

>>729890202
>You can get a 5070 for like 400€.
>euro goes after the numbers

sar, I do indeed needfully read

>>729890398
The issue comes not from having to upgrade, it comes from your gpu dying and the only replacement options being these overly expensive cards, or, if it all goes to shit, straight up fucking nothing.
As long as your device survives, this doesnt affect you, but it wont live forever

>>729890398
why do you shit on your pc and keep it in the closet?

Semiconductors aren't black magic. If there's trillions of shekels to make, investors will eventually allocate the capital to flood the market with GPUs/RAM/you're mom's dildos until a new equilibrium is reached. It will suck for a bit to be a hobbyist consumer but that's life.

>>729890472
>euro goes after the numbers

Can you mutts even afford measurement units anymore, or have those also been seized by your corporate overlords?

I'll just buy games that work on integrated GPUs. Most of my vidya is already pre-2006 so I don't play tranny games that aren't optimized.

If you can't get your game to run on 2GB ram it is not worth playing.

>>729885501
I will take the chinese hardware instead

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HE FUCKING WON
Apologize NOW

>>729890592
They'd do it right now, but you need to be a real idiot to believe that the OpenAI hucksters are anwhere near AGI, let alone able to deliver in the next years.
Companies like Samsung are even allocating hardware away form their own products because they know they can milk the bubble only for a short time until it pops.

>>729890672
An average amerimutt is much richer than europoors. The only "people" benefiting from euro socdem are unemployed niggers who probably are on average better off than an American nigger.

>>729890672
>pretends to be European
>spazzes out when it's shown the poster is indeed, not an European

>>729885501
>>$5000 Graphics Cards
Not happening this century dude. Not for gaming purposes anyway.

>>729890914
>An average amerimutt is much richer than europoors

Uh-huh. Now take cost of living into account, and the fact that going to the doctor for a broken tooth is going to cost 10.000$. Also
>average
You are now aware that this takes into account the income of all the billionaires who use america as their personal playground, with the always servile mutts who will literally worship the ground they walk on.

>>729891050
The € goes after the price here, Juan Daquan Ackpoo. Putting the currency in fron is uniquely muttican.

>>729887647
No there won't. We have plenty of water already and we're never going to run out. You're probably worried about drinkable water and that could be an issue if desalination technology didn't exist.

The real question is, does this also affect the prices at which these datacenters are buying them?
Are they just cranking the price now that they are in, so to speak, trying to scam this whole bubble for all theyre worth before it all collapses in on itself?

This is how the world now works. The huge movement of wealth from most of the world's population this century to a very small number of people has meant the average person can't own a house, more cars are being leased and, in a few short years, "AAA" PC gaming will become rented time online.
It will of course kill a lot of companies and jobs.

>>729891232
You're definitely not European, retard.
Nobody in fucking Europe, who is actually European, considers Europe a country.

>>729885501
5k for base GPU would never ever happen, there simply is nothing it can do that solicits that price point unless they are giving you access to neural networks you can train on your own without anyone’s influence but what you decide

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>>729890737
This niggah never uninstalled DOOM 2

>>729891420
nta but where was europe implied to be a country?

>>729890747
>Chinese hardware
I hope you live in a foundry

>>729890425
It's a problem for them, Sony are talking about delaying PS6 for 2 years to wait it out, but Sony and Nintendo have much more ability to get around it because of their scale and can afford to trade on thin margin to just get you to buy in. The problem for PC is there is no making your money back on accessories or game sales so you have to pay full price for everything to get in. I think we have hit the limit on graphics and it will swing back to platform exclusivity over the next 4 years. PC growth is going to be restricted to developing countries on lower end hardware

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All the doomers in this thread are hilarious. Gaming dying? Are you retarded? Half the planet owns a PS5 or Nintendo Switch. PC gaming might slow down but gaming as a whole ain't going anywhere.

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>>729891850
I think graphics have peaked nicely and it’s time to start developing skills with the tools available. There was this huge push for more that never seemed to stop around 2015. I think the tools are finally in a really good spot for developers to get comfortable with the systems available and how to improve performance and allocate resources. I don’t think PC gaming will go to the wayside at all, if anything PC will benefit the most out of the expertise people will have because their hardware can grant them a better experience.

>>729891850
They wont be affected as much, but they will still get scammed, and in turn, raise the price of their consoles to match, which considering how expensive they already are now, might be too much for the average family
And therein lies the problem, this makes consoles less accessible, which was the one true advantage they had over pc gaming, if the PS6 gets released in 2 years at 800$ or something to that effect, which it very likely will because of these fucking prices, it will be DOA, even not counting the fact itll very likely have the same no games problem the PS5 had
People arent gonna spend 900$ for a gta6 machine

>>729886194
The big problem with game streaming is that if you have a bad connection to the servers, there's fuck all either you or the platform provider like Nvidia for Geforce Now could possibly do about it. This heavily limits an already small potential target audience, and unlike other possible problems such as hardware pricing or game availability there is literally no solution to this one.

>>729885501
Yeah the thing is nobody fucking buys 90 series cards despite how much you faggots act like they are required to play games in current year.

99.9999999% of games can be played at 1080p on 10 year old hardware with zero issues. Turn the settings down, retard.

>>729892862
pc gaming used to be about power and flexing on poors and now you have literal cucks telling people to turn down the settings like some faggot.

>>729892862
I played cyberpunk on max everything with a 4070 12gb lol

>>729893196
If you want to play the newest games at max settings and 4k res then pay the $5000, goy.

That has literally always been the case, this isn't some new thing and gaming isn't dying because brown teenagers can't afford the enthusiast-tier hardware.

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>>729889257

>Puts up with a bunch of bullshit because he can't wait 2-5 minutes.

Never thought I would see the day that being willing to wait 5 minutes would save me thousands of dollars.

>>729892862
but I just bought a 9060 XT

>>729893459
>2-5 minutes.
and 200gb per game

>Retard poor normalfags will eat shit
This isn't the endgame for ME or YOU, retard.

>>729893630

I don't have fucking 5000 games. Even if I were to get a bunch more, the harddrive space is still cheaper.

>>729885501
I hate to say this but china will unironically fix the gpu prices by dropping affordable gpu that will work good enough and will be the only option available for consumers anyways, so devs will be forced to design for them or not sell at all

>>729894095
China isn't going to have anything even close to approaching an entry-level nvidia card anytime soon and proper drivers are even further away. But go ahead and buy some $150 chinkslop thats 10% as good as a 5050 and crashes constantly.

Their newest and best card performs similarly to a decade+ old nvidia card you get for $20.

PC poors will return to console where they belong. Sony fags will welcome you with open arms and this place will talk about video games again

>>729894875
>china takes over Taiwan.
china now has all the tech and chips

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>>729885501
you were wrong about VR

you were (and still are) wrong about cloud gaming

you will be wrong about LLMs

you "people" are so stupid its almost sad

>>729894990
>he doesn't know about the self-destruct systems in place
im not even joking

>>729895145
>he doesn't know about godzilla
I'm not even joking

Console gaming
>same third party games that actually matter
>some games even have mods
>physical games still exist
>cheaper
>Plug and play (outside of downloads)
>Guaranteed to work

Consoles are for white people. Only troons and third worlders love pc gaming now and treat steam like a social media platform.

>>729886194
>The average person doesn't have good enough internet
This isn't 2007, retard. You literally have perfect internet if you turn your phone into a hotspot.

>>729885501
>and you will all eventually use it
No.
You are underestimating my stuborness.

>>729894875
China is currently trying to speedrun chip development because they know the second they can make a "good enough" chip they can flood the market with them and completely destroy the US economy overnight.

this is literally the 2000s all over again, PCs aren't affordable anymore so people buy the console at the expense of mods and 60fps, a price to pay in order to buy food and pay rent.

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>>729891050
are you retarded? the € sign comes after the amount

>>729895558
gaming is better when pc is niche, pc reddit masterrace psy opd an entire generation into pc gaming

>>729895208
Only Bethseda games allow modding and modding. Nintendo games (WiiU/Switch) is 100% possible and easy with a USB but will brick your console if connected to the internet. So yeah, enjoy playing shitty skyrim modded for the 20th time.

>>729895663
>Germany
kek

>>729889257
name some

who fucking cares, there's a million 3090s and 4090s that play everything that you can buy 2nd hand. how do you not already have a 30 series or newer card anyway? just keep using it and get off the consumer treadmill

>>729895767
mods are gay anyway and games should be played as they were intended to be by the developers.

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>>729895145
>he thinks the owners of TSMC are actually going to cooperate with blowing up their factory when the taiwan govt is clearly losing by that point, instead of hiring triads to protect their property from what's left of taiwan's corrupt political elite who would fuck over their own people like this just to spite china.
>he thinks TSMC employees go to work every day standing next to a machine rigged with high explosives and this wasn't a ridiculous bluff by DPP trannies
>if the govt does manage to blow up TSMC somehow then taiwan is no longer of value to foreign powers and its economy collapses. china's own chips are now competitive due to a lack of price competition in the global market and they can just wait for taiwanese society to collapse on itself before moving in uncontested.
read nigga, read

>>729885501
I'd actually be fine using cloud if you could mod games and the latency wasn't so bad and the compression didn't kill image quality.

I guess I'm never using it.

>>729896404
Hey retard it doesn't matter what TSMC does because China wont be able to operate ASMLs machines without their support.

>>729896751
see point 3, retard

>>729885501
The tech still has a long way to be go, if you're stuck with a shitty isp provided router like me even fiber is a shitty experience

>>729890114
except njudea with give you a sub for $20 NOW.
in 5 yearss, it's gonna be $50 for 100 hours or some shit and you'll have ot pay another $50 for more hours, with ads, with worse performance and with whatever enshittification they can think of, but at that point you'll be hooked up and unable to unsubscribe

I used for 1 year before I upgraded from a shitty PC that couldn't run anything past 2014 and it was great. Shame about the new hour limit. I used the founders sub and I could play as much as I want.
My only issue was the lack of popular games like GTA. You could play Gmod or Arma 3 and it would download hundreds of gbs of mods so security against shady mods wasn't a risk.

>>729886194
The real place we will end up is that AAA will die, most people play low requirement f2p garbage and phone games that's where the money is at

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>>729896912
>hooked up and unable to unsubscribe
*notices price went up*
*click unsubscribe button*
NOOOOOOOOOOO how could he do this??

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>>729885501
Nobody is streaming games no matter how hard billionaire retards try to force it. Just like AI it is a pipedream.

>>729896786
Irrelevant to my point about ASML. China does not possess the lithography technology required to compete in the same space. If Taiwan got nuked it wouldn't be China filling the gap, it would be Intel and Samsung.

You don't know what you are talking about, sinofaggot.

>>729885950
Pretty much this. And if my GPU dies, games aren't made for me anyways.

>>729897036
absolutely anon
that's why everyone unsubscribed from netflix when they raised the prices repeatedly, then introduced ads, then lowered the streaming bitrate etc etc. you're absolutely correct.

You know, outside of this shithole there's literally no shilling of GeForce now nor any cloud gaming shit like Gamepass streaming.

Gen 9 is death of gaming as we know it.

>>729887667
>that $5000 was $2000 a week ago.
Enjoy getting scalped, not like you shower anyways.

>>729897256
4chan is full of Indians.

Did you retards forget?

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>>729897207
yes piracy is making a comeback haven't you noticed when more and more streaming services started popping up?

>>729897319
i have. that doesn't invalidate what i said. netflix is still raking in money.

>>729897272
not really. you couldn't afford top-tier hardware before gen 9 and you still wont be able to after.
stay poor, brown faggot.

>>729889604
Do you have a console, PC, or phone at all to play games, or are you posting with astral projection?
You bought something you don't need. You wasted money like a retard, by your own standards.

>>729897760
I bought 1080TI on launch day you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>729886194

All of your respondents being proudly wrong. /v/ doesn't realize this has already been attempted. It is a valid concern for other tasks, because that's already happening. I think we could see partial streaming, but it's kind of hard seeing the RnD paying off unless it's part of a larger package. I think a more disturbing thought are household compute, where you invest big bucks buying something completely locked down that essentially just virtualisation. People will gobble that up, because guys with more money then sense will justify the purchase. Nvidia will effortlessly snake away from the bad rent-seeking PR that way and normies will gobble that shit up.

I can easily afford a $6000 PC but why would I spend that? Games just aren't that good. Especially not the ones that require high specs.

>>729885501
Actually the endgame is destroying all forms of entertainment and enslaving everyone forever. You will do three things: work, suffer, and then die. You will die slowly and painfully, because your masters enjoy your agony. They hate you for existing in their world.

>>729897784
>you bought something you don't need!
>that means you should buy more things you don't need!
>otherwise you're poor!
okay

Should I upgrade to a 5080 or is a 5070 better value?

>>729898153
5070ti def

>>729897883
Exactly this. Everyone’s barking up the “streaming bad” tree like it’s 2013 OnLive again, but the industry has learned – they’re not going for full-on Stadia-tier moonshots anymore. The real play is locking down local hardware under the guise of “smart devices” doing cloud-assisted compute. Your new “gaming box” won’t be a PC or console, it’ll be a thin client with shiny RGB that pretends to be powerful while quietly pinging Nvidia’s server farm for half the workload.

No one’s going to notice until it’s too late, because they’re distracted by the illusion of ownership while everything meaningful gets piped in and monitored. It’s not about streaming from a menu, it’s about subtly making you rent every frame you see until it’s just normal.

>>729898153
5070ti is probably the sweet spot for price/performance if you can find one near msrp (you cant)
5080 is only worth the money if you want to play at 4k

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>>729885501
I tried a game on it, it ran at 20 fps in the menu on the lowest settings. What kinda shit is that

No thanks. A competitor will emerge.

>>729890114
But they can increase the price every year and get the precious magical growth that shareholders want
NOTHING matters except growth

>>729898351
I like to play on my TV so it's 4k but only 60fps

>>729898530
Best setup imo
The Switch 2 has shown me how little 120FPS matters

>>729898614
Yeah I'll take OLED blacks and HDR over 120fps

I'm still rocking the r5 3600 and a 6700 card. It plays everything at 60fps 1440p

Why upgrade?

>>729886194
I'm a poorfag and xbox streaming runs like butter for me. If you can't afford decent internet you don't belong in gaming

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gave in last night and moved from my 1060 to 5070ti - i'm sorry guys

>>729898351
I found a ZOTAC one for 1k USD

>>729898810
>Why upgrade?
Same. Well. I've got an i7 9700k and a 4070 12gb and i haven't had an issue with running a modern game yet

>>729898326

and yet we can't even talk about this shit because you get called as a moral fag or some non-sequitor defeatist argument. I pine for the time when playing games more or less meant you weren't a normie. Today they are the some of the worst slopGobblers of our time. /v/ will proudly announce switching from Nvidia GPUs due to end of support, and then buy another Nvidia GPUs. It's like a bad joke.

>>729899448
moral fag non-sequitor defeatist

i mean no one plays games on /v/ anyways so its zero sum

>>729898082
Middle class and above people buy things they want and don't need, because angrily rageposting from a favela isn't enjoyable.

If I can get a 5090 for $2400 USD is that a good deal or am I still getting ripped off?
Thinking I should buy before it gets even more crazy

>>729899935
Ah fuck I'll need a new PSU and case to fit it
Fuck it, I'll stick with the 3080 for now
Fuck FOMO

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>>729899935
yes, if you don't you'll only regret it

>>729886365
Its literally impossible to stream games.

>>729885501
I hate all you fuckers. geforce now was supposed to be a secret club and I was hoping the “le streaming bad” narrative would prevail but fuck you, on top of them throttling the service because of the influx of people using it, just fuck you. fuck you fuck you fuck you if you ruin my comfy elite dangerous sessions on my g cloud if I get hit with an “ooopsy we ran out of servers even though you paid for ultimate” message just kys

>>729900286
>ooopsy we ran out of servers even though you paid for ultimate
How does it choose who gets priority? Is it by session time?

>>729885501
I will rather burn alive like those kids in Switzerland before I would ever considering let alone pay for it
I will never pay for streaming and if my pc breaks and I can't replace it
I will drop gaming entirely

>>729900363
it’s first come first serve. obviously priority is given to those who pay. and ultimate gets the best response time

>>729885501
>100h play limit
>limited library meaning almost all big popular titles are missing
this is not the future I was promised mr Jensen

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realistically speaking we can't send data faster than speed of light and that alone makes streaming this kind of stuff a mess there's always latency and other issues add as a plus all the disgusting inet worldwide infrastructure which is dogshit, so basically its impossible for what they want to do (force everyone into this service), what's their endgame then? just kill the industry? wont happen they are literally leaving the chair for someone else, probably the chinese will try their best to keep this afloat, even if you hate china stuff because boomer dad brainwashing i would take a shit 150 dollar gpu that might last two years over $5000+ or streaming gaming "services"

>>729900286
Why not use shadow?

>>729886194
>The average person doesn't have good enough internet

worldwide internet is being moved from cable to satellite based internet like starlink which most of the third world is using it anyways since their ISPs are dog water so slow internet isnt a issue much anymore

>>729898434
The technology is too advanced

>>729899125
theres PNY ones for $750 pretty regularly

This shit is like housing.
We are moving into a permanent bubble because its profitable. If you have something that works well now, stick with it. If you were thinking of buying, do it, because nothing EVER gets cheaper

>maybe I should upgrade
>wait I'd need a new mobo
>and a new psu
that's not an upgrade, that is a new pc

>>729885501
>ps5 wireless controller already has 90 years of input latency
>PSSR and upscaling introduces even more latency
>shit isn't even running at 30 fps natively
>being upscaled from 720p, and lower
>now add streaming into the mix
>ass bitrate to add even more pixels to the upscaling
>BARE MINIMUM half a second of input lag
>on american internet, the absolute worst in a first world nation
dawg, this scheme is professionally retarded.

>>729885501
nah americans are bitches of their isp monopolies it wont fly

if gaming begins requiring a subscription i will stop gaming and focus more on my other hobbies. ten thousand years of misery unto the tech industry