What makes this game so resonate with players?
it's good. simple as.
>>729890451/thread
>>729890329Normies love moviegames
>>729890451Yeah
Lune's feet.
>>729890329It's more movie than game.
>>729890329>it's le $40!>it's like AAA (it isn't) while being made by a small indie company! (it wasn't)>it runs well>it doesn't have a battlepass>it has a tolerable storyThere, I sumarized 80% of positive Steam reviews for you
what's the gameplay like?
>>729891110Turn-based JRPG
>>729890451FPBP
>>729890329resonates with low frequency individuals
>/v/ is still seething over this game
>>729892659it's fucking hilarious
>>729890329Normies are fated to eat their freemason masters slop.
>playersbots
>>729891110Press R1 to parry and that's literally it
>>729892659Oh no no no...
I just beat the game. does anyone like and argue in favor of it's story? I can see why people like the gameplay but the story was complete garbage.
>>729893164>but the story was complete garbage.are you one of those brainlet that thinks painted world = fake world?
>>729893117am I supposed to give a fuck?
>>729890329It's just a generic JRPG reskinned for americans.
>>729893117okay..?
>>729893308>asking a frogposter if he's a brainlet
>>729893396touche
>>729893343yes
>>729893308how can you assume anything else? all you know about the "real world" is that it's Paris but with very convenient magic that allow for the shitty bait and switch that sells out a setting of fight against mysterious force of nature for some gay cryptic family conflict.
>>729893471well i don't
It's for white, Aryan men like me
>>729893682are you sure you don't feel like seething and/or coping?
>>729890329SOVL
>>729893738not in the slightest square-enix are a joke
>>729893164>the story was complete garbage.was it asian tier?
>>729890727And what does that have to do with this game that has like ~5 hours of cutscenes and is ~100 hours long to 100%?
>>729893916I don't get it. is it /v/ tradition to turn every discussion about this game into east x west shit flinging?
>>729893530game tried for two acts explain that all the people in the painted world are their own individuals, not some automatons, NPCs or hallucinations. It's not bait and switch
astroturfed
>>729890329>unreal engine sloppa>unreal engine sloppa asset store bought assets and animations >netflix tier faggot writing about muh traumas and depressions>AI sloppathe only people this turd resonates with are those who hate video games and those who play them.
>>729894059chill out chang, your stance is obvious since you already mentioned the PAINTED WORLD OH MY OH MYI just want information
tendies mad
>>729890329>so resonateGood morning, sir!
>>729894339kek i didn't catch that
>>729892957>job to jump attacks>job to black and white filter attacksYou didn't play the game
>>729890451could you elaborate
>>729894110this doesn't hold to scrutiny though, they were just spawned on a whim by mysterious french magic and the game doesn't even begin to try to address this fact.
>>729894201It's better story than any game I can remember that came out since Witcher 3
>>729890727The ratio gameplay to movie is not ome of a moviegame
>>729894601>and the game doesn't even begin to try to address this fact.So your main gripe is that game didn't go into detail how paint magic works?
>>729894601>this doesn't hold to scrutiny thoughNothing does
>>729890329The truth is that E33's success is nothing new. Accessible takes on existing genres has existed for ages like League of Legends or WoW. This is just the latest case of that
>>729890451>>729890902These are the reasons.
>>729890451>we live in an era where an affordable good game at launch is something people get confused over
>>729894825no. this is just one of the details that add up to make the game's big reveal be a massive letdown.
>>729894965Most games are accessible though, but rare few are getting this amount of praise
I’m more convinced that the hate campaign is from weebs that are seething that a western studio beat Japanese devs at their own game. If the game had anime aesthetics, there would be no seething.
>>729895137what are other details. I want to know what actual problems you had with the storydid you hate Gustave death, that main quest kills everyone or that nothing mattered!!!
>>729895278It's true. If someone's crtitique is something like "baby's first JRPG" be sure it's a weeb seething
>>729895242Most games are not accessible. Anime aesthetic alone is enough to turn off massive amounts of players that would otherwise enjoy a title. A lot of JRPGs lack the quality of life enjoyed by random ass RPGMaker hentai games. A lot of titles have nothing in them that keep short attention spans that think 5 second enemy turns are too long.E33, regardless of its own quality is just the easiest JRPG to buy into in years.
>>729894671what did you (and others) like about it? I beat it recently and found it dull. admittedly, I haven't played many narrative games over the years to compare it to.it felt like the game posed a few ideas but didn't explore much, and act 3 just ignores most of act 1 and 2 especially the characters.also the gameplay is ass
>>729894965JRPGs is already in itself an accessible take on Western CRPGs.
>>729895739Then you meant "presentable", not "accessible". I thought you meant it's easy to play and get into
>>729895278I enjoyed it a lot because of how anime all the animations were, you could tell the frenchies really loved JRPGs. Seeing the credits having a bunch of koreans for animators suddenly made a lot of sense.The "weebs vs westerners" war is completely artificial.
>>729895739Tbf, JRPGs have been in a bad state for a very long time. We’ve long passed their late 90s-early 2000s golden age, and E33 was basically just one of the first JRPGs in a long time to make something on that level of quality. The only reason JRPGs were able to slog along and survive until now was because of weebs and waifufags, but it’s lost the mainstream appeal they once had.
Boss me around mommy
>>729895865It's not black&white cartoonish for once which puts it above most vidya stories
>>729890329It has an emotional fabric that you don't find in many modern games, if any at all
>>729895278If it's true, then those people would be retarded. I'm one of the 90s kids that grew up with Final Fantasy (7 remains my all time favorite), among other things, and I fuckin love E33. You can feel the guys behind it genuinely love JRPG, especially Final Fantasy.
>>729895349as I said before the scale switching was pretty bad and it does make it feel like suddenly everything matters a lot less. Gustave's death wasn't great either, that was a character that had potential for a lot of development, instead they just instantly replace it with someone who you get no background on for most of the time, but at the very end are asked to care about. the endings are pretty shit too you either erase everyone who are supposed to be totally like normal people or you live in what's supposed to be a totally valid world expect none of the people that are supposed to be just like normal people seem to care about living on a painting with no prospects to anything while also not caring about their friend slowly dying irl or the memories of a dead nigga being forced to exist despite just wanting to disappear
>>729896036Yeah, no
>>729896058Its not true, theres no hate campaignits literally the most beloved game released in 2025
>>729890329They finally made a mature intelligent game for mature intelligent gamers.
>>729890329melodramatic narrative and fanservice aka pillars of successful modern rpg
>>729896045I really think the emotional sincerity of the game did it wonders. After more than a decade of irony-drenched quip fests, an earnest melodrama feels refreshing.
>>729896058Weebs whole identity hinges on convincing themselves that they consume superior media. E33 threatens that identity so they must fight back or admit that their weeb content is sub par
Omori was better but we're not ready to have that discussion about an actual indie game that's not Japanese since it'd destroy the E33 narrative.
>>729896283Which is something I’ve always found weird because a lot of anime, manga and Japanese games draw influence from western media. Osamu Tezuka for example was heavily influenced by Disney, and that’s just one example. On the game side, you also have Kojima who is honestly one of the biggest westaboos alive.
>>729896141weird how she looks so similar to gustave's sister
>>729896141>Your picMade for Nevron cock
>>729896580Was probably deliberate, similar to how Gustave looks like a cross between Verso and Renoir.
>>729890329>What makes this game so resonate with players?Good morning sir.
>>729896063>it does make it feel like suddenly everything matters a lot lessbut world didn't get smaller, it just you learned of things beyond it>Gustave's death wasn't great either,I hated it at first and coped that he will somehow revive later in game but after looking back it was genius move, game's main theme is grief so it forces player also experience it by killing MC and giving you Verso>who you get no background on for most of the time, but at the very end are asked to care aboutI found Verso to be most compelling character with enough background if you go through relationships and get journals.>he endings are pretty shit toothat's French game, of course they won't give you GOOD ending, you either sacrifice that world with all people you interacted in it to save a 16 yo drug addict or you let drug addict to just dull her pain until it kills her but it buys painting another 10-50 yearsexpect none of the people that are supposed to be just like normal people seem to care about living on a painting with no prospects to anythingBecause Alicia is shit painter so people have no color, so she turns vibrant world that lived by it's own world into her dollhouse that exists to make her happy
>>729890329>What makes this game so resonate with players?All I remember from the game is that, you have to parry everything, or jump if that yellow thing appears.Gustave died and his place was taken by a white knight Verso.Then some drama happens, and in act 3 you learn that the whole world is just a drawn shit to keep Verso alive and you have two bad endings.I maybe too autistic, but the only thing that made me feel bad is the fact that Gustave was just some random guy trying his best and gets fucked because of family problems.
>>729896641Good thing Cléa was not a pervert, geez...Imagine the things she could have painted
>>729897246>Because Alicia is shit painter so people have no color, so she turns vibrant world that lived by it's own world into her dollhouse that exists to make her happybut then that implies that the painted world people aren't just like normal people after all, and they're just complete products of their painter instead which basically invalidates the first half of the game
>>729897704If frogs were ballsy enough to include sexual frustration angle in her paintings it would've been even better.
>>729897246Are people really surprised the game is tragic? Even putting aside the fact that France has a long history of writing depressing stories, the music and general vibe throughout the game should have told you this was a game that was taking itself super seriously and was operating on melancholy as its main vibe.
>>729897749no, because Aline is such a great painter she can create fully functional people that are in all aspects no different from real humans
>>729897704I love my absurdist/Nietzschean wife
>>729890329I know very little about this game but I assume the success was due to the novelty of a Western-styled narrative with tried and true JRPG gameplay. Not saying it was the first game to do that, but the first for many people maybe.
>>729898101Button up that shirt, hussy!
>>729897942that doesn't change much, it's like you're describing a better version of an AI>>729897925the problem for me is not that it's tragic, it's the scope of the tragedy. I was sold in world ending. not as much in fate of a crippled girl
>>729894671better then Elden Ring? :o
>>729898123The narrative is JRPG styled too. Really the main difference is that they swapped the eastern aesthetic for a western one.
>>729898214flaming turd has better story than Elden Ring
Guys, I think I’m in love with Sciel. How do I cope with this feel?
>>729897482>Then some drama happens, and in act 3 you learn that the whole world is just a drawn shit to keep Verso alive and you have two bad endings.so, it's one of those it was all a dream stories.
>>729898268better than rdr2?
>>729898123
>>729892869>he STILL doesn't understand the difference between a publisher and developerYou've had it explained to you a dozen times.It's time to stop posting.
>>729898358she looks more non-white than a blackie from the depths of afrika
>>729898405Elden Ring story is better than Rdr2
>>729890329There are several hooks early on right after each other. Same shit the older FF games had.
>>729890329It doesn't. It's butt shit, I've been telling you. The only people who like it are all faggots, that's all you need to know to know it's shit, tourist.
>>729890329>so resonate>क्लेयर ओब्स्कुरः अभियानः ३३.jpgYou're brown. You wouldn't get it.
>>729894671TW3 is pure garbage tho.
>>729894671You retards don't play video games.Play Return of the Obra Dinn.
>>729898358You can't...I tried
>>729898358>Forgot about her husband the moment she saw VersoWoman moment
>>729898489>Grommage>Renoir oneshotting the team>Gustave attempting suicideAll sufficient to hook the average gaymer to play through the game to the end of Act 1 where another hook occurs. Once Act 1 ends the sunk cost fallacy more than likely kicks in.
>>729898725good game
>>729898725>play this completely different unrelated gameLmao why didn't you suggest to play football
>>729898679Silence, botchling.
>>729898489>>729898765Frankly, that’s just what good writing does. If there’s not at least one thread of intrigue established early on, then your audience isn’t going to have the patience to sit through the beginning of your story. A lot of JRPGs fail this test because they fall into the “it gets good 20 hours in” trap.
>>729890329>>729890451Nothing. It's a shilled industry plant. Even now you make threads and reply in them yourself.Kys.
>>729898936>use cheapest hooks imaginable>all copies from popular JRPGs and animeThat's not good writing tho. It's Harry Potter-level.
>>729890329 all white cast
>>729898192>that doesn't change much, it's like you're describing a better version of an AIdevelopers did everything to convince people that people in painting just as real as outside. But someone people just hear "painted" and default to "they are not real so they don't matter">it's the scope of the tragedymore personal the tragedy, more impact it has
>>729898839Nta, but Return of the Obra Dinn has one of the best stories, it hooks you instantly.I think it’s the only game that’s made me feel that way when it comes to story. Curiosity, curiosity and more curiosity.
>>729890329Looks nice, sounds nice, plays nice despite some balancing issues. The story is nice too until Act 3 starts tripping over itself to rush to an obligatory tragic end that shits on what the majority of the game is actually focused on.
>>729898748>Sorry Verso, but I will trade you for Pierre in a heartbeatanon, did you even play the game?
>>729898996No trope is original and it comes from somewhere. The point is that E33 achieved the bare minimum of what a good story should do in its opening hours and it paid off in spades in terms of player engagement. It’s amazing how many modern writers simply don’t know how to write.
>>729898956meds
>>729898358Maybe by getting some taste.
>>729899080>But someone people just hear "painted" and default to "they are not real so they don't matter"we are literally talking about their behavior is manipulated in the game. what?
>>729890329I got bored and quit at the start of Act 2
>>729894791Then what games are moviegames
>>729898936>A lot of JRPGs fail this test because they fall into the “it gets good 20 hours in” trap.I have played exactly 2 JRPGs that actually gets good 20 hours in. One is atrocious enough I wouldn't rate it higher than 2/5, the other is my second favorite game of all time.
>>729899315Movie game has kind of lost its meaning here and its generally just used for “game I don’t like”.
You can already tell it'll be one those games that leaves no lasting cultural impact no matter how well it sells
>>729890329Its a strict SinglePlayer.No multiplayer, no battlepass, no in-game store.>>729891110Has the most basic Turn-based combat of a fucking NES game. And you can parry/block every attack of a Giant robot with one button vs the movesets of Devil May Cry / Nier Automata
>>729899429I think the fact people are still talking about it fairly regularly almost a year after its release is something noteworthy. Most games nowadays are forgotten after a month at best.
I wonder how many more months of cope and seethe we're in for.
>>729890329>FilenameYou are subhuman
>>729899429I agree, no one will remember the goty, or the other prizes, or the ratings or costumes or music...I mean! I already forgot myself!
>>729899284Yeah, same. After Gustave died, I was like, meh. It's one of those games. miseryporn or whatever.I play RPGs to kick ass, or struggle a lot and then kick ass.
>>729899283Because Painters are gods in that world, gods that can create retarded 20 IQ creatures like Gestrals or fully functional humans
>>729899428What was the original meaning
>>729898474publisher funds the game. they are the root of the scam. you have no argument wumao.
>>729899590In 3 months and 22 days we'll hit a whole year and I doubt it will stop before then.
>>729890329Kek at the filename
>>729899283They literally aren't real.It's like saying chatGPT is a real person. It can act like one, but it's not a real person.
>>729899691sure, but if you're trapped in a canvas and completely under control of people from the real world I don't care how much like normal people you are, you are still lesser and I still feel like this devalues the first half of the game massively.
>>729899824ChatGPT has artificial intelligence, you clearly have none, making you a less real person than AI.
>>729899735>publisher funds the gameThey fund a lot of games, not just E33. Also, I thought this game was made with nepomoney. Which is it?>they are the root of the scam. you have no argument wumao.How do the bugs benefit from this game existing and being succesful?
>>729899892made up things are made up things.there is nothing to argue about.
>>729899824can chapgpt reproduce you goddam retard?
>>729899726Game that tried so hard to be a movie at the expense of gameplay. The term was originally thrown at walking sims like Dear Esther and Gone Home, before also being applied to post-Uncharted Naughty Dog games for how cinematic they tried to be. COD campaigns got that label too because of how linear and scripted they were.
>>729899919don't you know, China spent billions on buying BG3 and E33 on steam, then buying bots to watch streams on twitch and then keep BG3 open on their steam accounts AND chatgpt bots making fake threads on 4chan to destroy the west
>>729890329High quality.
>>729900016Prove you're not made up. If you can't, kill yourself, since you don't matter.
>>729899892>>729900037ohh someone is mad. sorry for disrespecting your ai waifu.
fact: if Expedition 33 was a Japanese game there would be incest subplot
>>729892869so it IS chinaslop>what if we did a gacha game... without gacha!>our maoist comrades speaking LE FRENCH will make it for us, cheap whores HAHAHAHA
>>729900252Nah, at most it would be hinted at, but never acted upon. Japan doesn’t have the balls to do an incest plot.
>>729890329It plays like a Netflix show. It's proof /v/ has been taken over by normies. That and shills.
>>729900053Uncharted games are also movie games
>>729899919The money was injected during the start of E33 development. It was clearly tied directly to E33.Unless you have proof otherwise? You don't. You're here to shill a chinese astroturf like always.100% exposed going on 4 years now.
>>729900252Jokes aside they both had really good performances during the endings.
>>729892869>Why, yes, I do think that studios buy a million of copies of their own games on Steam, losing 80% to taxes and Valve's tip, just to write reviews and make it seem like people like the game.
>>729900450the game would be filled with jeets and fat sassy niggers if that were true.
>>729900453True, but I meant post Uncharted 1, since Uncharted 2 was the game that really established the blueprint of modern Naughty Dog. The first game was just a streamlined Tomb Raider clone.
>>729900136I can’t. But I can prove that AI is a human-made thing, so are people inside the E33 world They aren’t real.>B-but they expressed emotions.Yes, so does our made-up AI. In fact, I’ve seen RPs on /g/ that act more convincingly than humans themselves. Still just 0s and 1s.Drop this deeper-meaning BS.
>>729900535that wouldn't sell in china tho
>>729900585>But I can prove that AI is a human-made thingAnd the guy who made you can prove that you are.>Yes, so does our made-up AI.And so do you.
>>729890329Still have never seen gameplay of this shit apart from a guy flying down a hill with a rainbow coming out of his ass and a parry spam boss battle.
>>729900513China literally did that with wukong.
>>729892659It's almost like the game is shit
>>729900684You've seen it all, then.
>>729900684what do you expect from a JRPG anyway?Good JRPGs are good because of stories.Gameplay isn't important.
>>729900513Coincidentally, E33 sits in the genre with the highest amount of bot review activity on Steam.
>>729900505I've watched interview with lead writer, normally video game production just gives voice actors script to say few hours before recording and that's it. E33 went more Japanese way, they animated scenes first, provided script to actors few days before recording with annotations to give directions, then during recording actors would watch scene play out and act how they feel it should fit better.
>>729900887I haven't seen any interesting story either. Nobody posts webms of this shit because nobody is playing it.
>>729900891the story was also written by AI from what it seems, not to mention other aspects of game designhttps://www.polygon.com/clair-obscur-expedition-33-indie-game-awards-goty-rescinded/
>>729890329The main guy jumps like a homosexual
>>729899892>ChatGPT has artificial intelligence, you clearly have none, making you a less real person than AI.
>>729901063>the story was also written by AIfuck off with that bullshit. You are talking out of your ass.
>>729901104you know that from personal experience?
Real Renoir was right.
>>729890329Braindead parry parry parry and muh drama.
>>729890329They made a good JRPG, which is something we haven't seen in like a decade.
>>729900709Didn't have to. Chinese people will buy any remotely not utter shit game and give it a positive review. If those were bots, they would use them to keep the player count high, because why not, since those accounts already have the game?There are only 4000 players right now.>>729900891>source: my two remaining grey cells just collided granting me this knowledge
>>729900470this is funny because stellar blade is the real chinkslop shilled here lmao
>>729901037https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HatN06m1Bs&list=PLJCH8faf6GawT_VSJgrPSsTKxg_n-4b2W&index=7
>>729901126>got caught using AI without disclosing it>only removed the most egregious examplesIt's safe to assume they used AI for everything from textures and models to music and dialogue. This is how the game looked before they started using gen AI btw.
>>729901126nta but it truly does feel as if this turd as a whole was crafted by AI. including story and music. honestly would not surprise me if this shit was made by industry plants in order to push AI sloppa made games to the masses. course we cannot know for sure but my intuition is strong on this one.
>>729890329They had me the moment I heard the menu music.
>>729901126to be fair there is not much difference between a story written by somebody who is not a straight white male and AI...
>>729900891>E33 sits in the genre with the highest amount of bot review activity on Steam.and E33 has EXTREMELY high achievement completion rate, are bots now so good they are beating every boss in the game?
>>729901303I know the history of the game. It started as a side project while they were still working at Ubisoft which is why it looks like shit. They werent even game developers and were learning on the fly. kys
>>729901063I think it was a test to see how much of a game could be made by ai. Concepts, music, even 3D character models can be built and textured by AI.The boss designs in particular are very AI nightmare looking. If you've stared into the AI abyss enough you'll know what i mean.
>>729890329>so resonate with players
>>729901303are you dragonirian?
>>729900470>chinese astroturf>>729899919>How do the bugs benefit from this game existing and being succesful?Well?And why aren't AAA games astroturfed here in the same way? Why don't any of the 5+ million customers who bought the game complain about it being bad?
>>729901316>>729901303yup yup beyond mindbrokenThe game looks like Nicholas Maxson-Francombe art by the way that is his style
>>729901410E33 started development in 2019 and that demo was in 2020. The final artstyle looks distinctively like Midjourney AI which was released in 2022.
>>729899575I mean the game awards just happened and there was the whole AI controversy which prolonged its stay in the internet mainstream. A game like KCD 2 is also still talked about for the gay sex scene but I guess any press is good press
>>729901463Some heroes don't wear capes.
>>729901303>It's safe to assume they used AI for everything from textures and models to music and dialogueNo. It's not safe to assume that. Not a single texture in the game looks ai made, same for the models. The music is real too. There's been live concerts. There's not a single em dash in the game's dialogue.>This is how the game looked before they started using gen AI btw.An early prototype looked unfinished? No way!
>>729890329Makes me want I could create my own worlds...
the discussion has almost fully slowed to a haltit's already almost forgotten
>>729901549It looks like super blurry AI-generated slop.
>>729901303you must be mentally unwell.Here is example of early prototype of Valves Deadlock
>>729901759>Not a single texture in the game looks ai madeRUMAO
>>729901256>i'm too retarded to use google>>729901395>achievementslmao I'm looking at them right now. It's all shit you can do in the first 30 minutes of the game >start the game>kill an enemy>upgrade a weapon>break a cageWow, crazy so many people have these mandatory tutorial achievements.Still never see anyone posting gameplay of this slop. Not even screenshots. Threads always use cover art because shills are lazy pajeets.
>>729900252You just know the Painters try to keep their bloodline pure.
>>729901869That's a placeholder they forgot to replace before launch and then fixed when people pointed it out. Show me one texture in the game now that was made by ai.
>>729901885>beat Simon, optional superboss>15.4%>Find all 33 music records>9.5%those too were done "in the first 30 minutes of the game"
>>729901770>be a god like human with imaginable powers of creation>create a world to be a miserable self centered cuck faggot truly only a game trannies may find joy in.
>>729902030>make every single texture in the game using AI>modify the ones that are obviously AI>keep everything elseThis also means that the AI is the one who actually designed the visual style btw.
>>729901786>nobody will buy it at all>it will be forgotten in a week>it will be forgotten in a month>it will be forgotten in a half a year<< YOU ARE HERE >>>it will be forgotten in a year>it will be forgotten in another year>it will be forgotten in five years>it will be forgotten in ten years>it will be forgotten in fifty years>it will be forgotten before the century ends>it will be forgotten before the millennium ends
>>729890329Characters are interesting, relatable, well written. Not just silly caricatures and tropes that is the standard in most video games.
>>729901167Fake Renoir was right too.
lmao this thread is peculiar af, what's with all the indian tier broken english? is ej33t seriously shilled by indian call centers kekdidnt believe it at first but now ive read this thread...
>>729890329its good, sinple as
>>729902136And your proof?
>>729902136what is this retard talkin about lmfao
What I don't get is if everyone knew about the AI textures since the beginning and they were patched out quickly after release then why did they deny the use of AI when submitting their game for the Indie game awards? I know the story is they admitted to using it in development and forgot to remove some placeholder textures for release, so everyone has been aware since around April-May, and if that is true then why say no AI was used? Did they forget again? It makes no sense
>>729902030Why did they have an AI placeholder instead of just making it themselves?>Show me one texture in the game now that was made by ai.How you gonna know a tree texture is made by AI you cretin. The posters are noticeable because AI is bad at stuff like that.Again, why was AI textures ever used? Making a placeholder texture takes longer than automatically having a bright purple part of your game indicating you didn't make a texture for it. There is zero reason to ever use an AI "placeholder" texture. It just wastes your time.
>>729902234nta but its in the pudding. AI sloppa aside these faggots used UE and UE asset store assets and animations.to call them developers is a big massive stretch.
>>729902315>It just wastes your time.how
>>729896283Wrong, E33 validates everything fans of JRPGs have been saying for years. The "west vs weeb" narrative is a fradulent narrative to discredit what JRPG Gods have been saying for a long while. >JRPG fans had to argue against the narrative that turnbased is BASED because everyone else kept saying otherwise>E33 comes out, among other turn based games, proving JRPG Chads to be rightAs for E33, it's heavily influenced by JRPGs. Look at how over-the-top the attack animations are. There used to be a time where JRPGs were grilled for their ridiculous animations, and suddenly it's ok? Look at the kill animation for Simon, The Divergent Star and how Verso and Maelle use an anime combo-attack to kill him. But it's ok when E33 does it? Let's not forget the following:>The game is full of FF references like pic related.\>Like FFVII's Disc 1, Act 1 ends with the death of a main character.>Like FFVII's Disc 2, the bulk of the main story happens in Act 2. End with Cloud and Maelle learning their true identities.>Like FFVII's Disc 3, Act 3 is just the final dungeon, but the entire world has opened up for the player to explore and fully complete sidequests to prepare for the final battle.The reason why this anti-weeb narrative feels so faked and force is because E33 is a game for weebs by weebs. It has things that only fans of JRPGs, mainly Final Fantasy and Lost Odyssey, can understand. But you guys go on a meltdown and act as if weebs hate this game if they dare make the slightest criticism towards E33. This is like when FFVII Remake came out and it was impossible for JRPG fans to critique that game. It's only until years after launch where we can critique that damn game. It's proven time and time again, that scrubs like you can't handle critique during a game's honeymoon phase so you resort to attacking people for being "weebs" instead of what they say. Difference between E33 and FFVIIR is that E33 will be remembered as a respectable 8/10 or 7/10.
>>729901549sounds like a made-up namemade up by a 12 year old
>33 DecembreRIP
do not feed this schizo
>>729902046>look some people did rarer achievementsso what>>those too were done "in the first 30 minutes of the game"Well they're at the bottom of the list so no, you absolute cretin.You people argue like mongoloids.
>>729902136Do you comprehend how many textures there are in the game? If they were all ai and they only modified the obvious ones, they would have missed a lot more than one. Where are those textures? Keep in mind this is supposedly 2022ish ai, so there'd be tons of artifacts.>This also means that the AI is the one who actually designed the visual style btw.Not really. They would have decided on a visual style, then used ai to iterate on textures to achieve that style in engine, then make real textures based on that.
>>729902367So you're just admitting that there's no human involvement in making a 3d model and texturing it and they can make the entire game that way, and the only way they're gonna get caught is if it looks weird.I'm sure they didnt do that. I'm sure the newspaper textures was the only part done by AI right? Right.
>>729902359>AI sloppa asideSo you have no proof and are now retreating fron the claim you made.>these faggots used UE and UE asset store assets and animationsAnd how does that affect the quality of the actual game?>to call them developers is a big massive stretch.If you think it's so easy, feel free to make a better game and earn millions.
>>729902614nigger what
>>729902496here's REBIRTH achievement completion rates
"AI SLOPP AAAAA"Same retard by the way beyond mindbroken
>>729902475The world outside of the canvas is also fake. In the world outside of the world outside of the canvas, Gustave is designing the Statue of Liberty and Verso is a successful musician. Maelle is a children's story writer who makes stories about Esquie.
>BG3 seethe thread followed by E33 seethe threadEvery single day at this point.
>>729902537>Do you comprehend how many textures there are in the game?Most of the textures in the game are nonsense terrain and the enemies, the stuff that precisely looks the most like Midjourney.
>>729902537>ai makes textures of a tree that look fine>so they went and made their own textures after for no reason whatsoeverWhat reason would they not have AI do as much as possible?
>>729902657if you cannot see the issue with ((developers)) using UE sloppa and homogenizing vidya and how much of a determination that is for the future of video games then you are a smooth brained dumb as a rock nigger who dont really like video games and nothing that one may say will steer you away from defending e33, a faggot game made by faggots using AI sloppa for faggots like you.
>>729902537>They would have decided on a visual style, then used ai to iterate on textures to achieve that style in engine, then make real textures based on thatSo the AI made the textures.
>>729902804cant believe this fantastic dream world doesnt have realistic environments
>>729902315>How you gonna know a tree texture is made by AIBecause that tree texture would have been made around 2022 with shitty old models.>The posters are noticeable because AI is bad at stuff like thatWhy aren't the other textures with text in them ai?>Making a placeholder texture takes longer than automatically having a bright purple part of your game indicating you didn't make a texture for it.Because an ugly purple placeholder doesn't let you iterate on the visuals of each area. For that, you need to either make tons of textures by hand, make one texture and call it good enough, or use ai to create tons of textures fast and cheap until you find something good.
>>729902804NTA but that looks pretty neat.
>>729902797both games are pure cancer, they deserve the hate. one is the biggest globohomo faggot propaganda disguised as a video game ever conceived, the other is AI UE sloppa made for the masses of braindead hylic golems.
>>729890329Its done by whites
>>729902883AI can also generate more realistic materials.
>>729902294hey uh.... this thing on? heheh
>>729902862detriment* not determination. Im at the beach having a beer and phone posting.
>>729902974Now that's some high-quality seethe!
I only need to finish getting the CDs. Have to get them on NG+, but I am having a blast replaying the game with my OP party. After that, I'll have 100% on Steam. What should be my next JRPG to conquer? I got Romancing Saga 2 Remake, Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter and Persona 3 Reloaded. Been thinking about playing the Trails remake since the demo was solid.
I know this freak is here
>>729902998so its not ai then? got it.
>>729903107thats the equivalent of you going to a field of beautiful flowers and shitting on them and then claiming others are seething because you are shitting on something that is nice. kys nigger.
>>729902904also NTA but i like how they did the overworld, zoomed out with a super shallow depth of field, like tilt shift photography
>>729902890>Because that tree texture would have been made around 2022 with shitty old models.Nigga what? That's three years ago. You think they make the entire game twice because the assets became outdated in that short time period?>Why aren't the other textures with text in them ai?Because AI cant do text well, so it forced those lazy frogs to do it themselves.>iterateIf you're a complete amateur sure, you're going to redesign everything 10 times but it's not an excuse to use AI ever.
>>729903204metaphor
>>729902862>if you cannot see the issue with ((developers)) using UE sloppa and homogenizing vidya and how much of a determination that is for the future of video gamesI can. I hate ue. But what am I supposed to do about it? Devs are going to use it anyway because it's cheaper and normalcattle will buy it anyway. I'm not gonna miss out on a great game like E33 just because it happens to be made in ue.>a faggot game made by faggotsOh, it's you.>using AI sloppaStill no proof btw.
>>729903259ESLs should never try their hand at analogies because look what happens.
>>729903386>no proofThe devs were caught using it and admitted using it.>oh but they only used it for posters!You drooling retard.
>>729903245So proud to be in this screenshot.
>>729903286I forgot about having Metaphor. It's in my backlog. Beat the first dungeon, but put off the game since my personal life was moving too fast for me to focus on games, but things have settled down right now. So maybe I'll finish Metaphor on my Deck.
>>729903468>muh esl >muh jeetand youre a soulless nigger defending this faggot game made by faggots using UE and AI sloppa. KYS you are a cancer not only upon vidya but the world as a whole.
>>729901010In some ways it suffers like the lip syncing not being as on point. However, I think it gave a lot more to the game that every team was clearly working hand in hand with each other. I know the mocap people listened to the music for scenes as well to get into it.
>>729900016>made up things are made up things.Everything is made up. Everything. They're made up of chroma and lumina because of the Painters. We're made up of protons, neutrons and electrons, because of some vast quantum probability matrix. That could probably be represented on a 2D plane if you had one big enough. The only limitation here is within your imagination.
>>729903468>>729903595You guys should post your hands to settle this otherwise this debate won't end. A 4chan gentleman's duel. The whitest man wins.
>>729902804>Most of the textures in the game are nonsense terrain and the enemies, the stuff that precisely looks the most like Midjourney.Isn't midjourney an image generator? How does an image generator make 3d models for the enemies?>>729902832>What reason would they not have AI do as much as possible?Because unlike you, they're White, and thus see the value in creating art with human hands.>>729902872No. They made the textures by hand based on the ai placeholders.
>>729890329Euros lavishing every opportunity they get to clown on Nips (and every other race/country when given the chance)
>>729903765every single e33 thread this nigger askinh others to post hands? you are a wristlet fag and you are a mind broken retard. get some sleep you nigger.
>>729903719>We're made up of protons, neutrons and electrons, because of some vast quantum probability matrix.We have souls you stupid cunt. That's the point.
>>729890329It was made by white people, which is the reason why troons are apoplectic spamming their hatred of it everywhere on /v/
>>729903812>Because unlike you, they're White, and thus see the value in creating art with human hands.You must be an american to think those diluted arabs are white.I see that muh white hands talking point a lot. Must be some discord tranny shit you think will own the chud.
>>729900585>But I can prove that AI is a human-made thingExactly. You can prove that about AI because it's real, because it's a real thing that exists in the real world. We know basically everything about it, how it's made and how it works, enough to know that it doesn't possess sentience. We know fuck all about the science and magic behind painting in this imaginary world. The only people who know anything about that are the characters in the story, the painters, and they (besides maybe Clea) seem to think the painted people are real.
>>729903812>They made the textures by hand based on the ai placeholdersThat means the AI placeholders is the base of the design. I don't think they replaced any AI-gen textures that were good enough tho.
>>729903883Because it's FUNNY, and the last guy to post his hands was a brown who hates E33.
>>729903994>it's definitely not the troons trying to gaslight the chud into loving the game by saying its made by white people!Give it up and stay out of women's bathrooms.
>>729903273>You think they make the entire game twice because the assets became outdated in that short time period?What the hell are you saying? You said a tree texture made by ai wouldn't be noticeable. I said that texture would have been made in 2022 with shitty 2022 models, and would thus be noticeable. Thus, the textures aren't made by ai.>Because AI cant do text well, so it forced those lazy frogs to do it themselves.2022 ai couldn't do anything well, so they would've had to make everything by hand anyway, which they did.>If you're a complete amateur sure, you're going to redesign everything 10 timesAn amateur will go with the first thing that looks good, not spend time perfecting it.>it's not an excuse to use AI ever.Why is ai bad? Why should it never be used as a tool if the end result is made by humans and is good?
>>729903996Brown behavior. You are afraid of posting your hand because you are brown. But that's ok. You can also post the tip of your dick, and we'll determine your whiteness by the pinkness of your mushroom tip.
>>729890329Being parryslop means you don't have to think to succeed.
>>729903719>just use your imagination brothat's gay cope for the writers doing a shit job
>>729902294I guess they thought the rules were unclear (which to be honest, they kind of are, they just say "no ai used during development" when every dev has at least tried ai a couple times), and figured that since the finished game doesn't contain any ai stuff that it was fine, especially since they weren't hiding it.
>>729903980>We have souls you stupid cunt.I knew it, you guys are religious. You cannot see the painted people as real because as far as you're concerned, personhood and sentience are impartments from the divine. You take this stance on faith alone of course, which means you refuse to try to comprehend any further about the nature of consciousness. You won't suffer the idea that it might arise from complex permutations of chroma and lumina because it implies the same of our consciousness and its real world building blocks, and to do so is an affront to your blind faith.
>>729903505>The devs were caught using it and admitted using it. Yes, during development. Where in the actual game is the ai slop?>You drooling retard.No refutation. Still can't provide a single texture that was made for ai. Also, I never said they only used it for posters so I'm not sure who you're quoting.
>>729903719>just use your imagination broExcellent writing. Overexplaining details of a story leaves no room for speculation and debate. Therefore, the story would get forgotten.
VersoCHADS are JRPG enjoyers who can handle anything. Maellefags are pigs who can't handle "it's not real" because their grade school teach told them it's bad. I stand with Verso Dessendre.
>>729904159>I said that texture would have been made in 2022 with shitty 2022 models, and would thus be noticeableDoesn't make any sense, A three year old asset is not old. If it was then most games would have to replace their assets near the end of the dev cycle.>2022 ai couldn't do anything well, They don't have to have made the entire game in 2022.>Why is ai bad? Why should it never be used as a tool if the end result is made by humans and is good?E33 has exposed how awful things are going to get with AI. It's the most inorganically promoted and created game we've ever seen with fake awards and a complete lack of people actually playing the game and showing it off, and there's going to be more of it because of the artificial success of E33. Ubisoft etc are doing to adopt this experiment as their business model.
>>729904197>obsessed with browns and dicksCan't post the tip of my dick because my foreskin is in the way. Not that you'd know what that's like, ye golem.
>>729890329This succubus's feet.
>>729904536Human creations can't have souls. Soul is a per person thing. At best, it can be transformed from one body to another. And personally I don't believe that either.
>>729904536Genuinely, what is wrong with you?
>>729904554>THEY ONLY USED AI FOR THE PARTS THEY GOT CAUGHT USING IT BRORetard alert.
>>729904823The majority of males in India are not circumcised. Having foreskin isn't proof of whiteness. It's all in the tip.
>>729890329>implying shills actually play games
>>729905000>The majority of males in India are not circumcisedDude go tell someone else about your vacation exploits.
>>729904734>A three year old asset is not old. If it was then most games would have to replace their assets near the end of the dev cycle.What the hell are you talking about? A three year old ai image looks like shit because three year old models were shit. They used ai for placeholders, then replaced those placeholders with real textures.>They don't have to have made the entire game in 2022. No, but that's when the placeholder assets were made.>E33 has exposed how awful things are going to get with AI.We'll get good, decently optimized games for cheap? Oh no!>It's the most inorganically promotedIf it was that easy, why aren't AAA games promoted the same way? Why aren't the 5+ million legit customers complaining that the game sucks?>fake awardsThe awards they got seemed pretty real to me. They were touching and holding them and everything.>a complete lack of people actually playing the game and showing it offWhat is there to show off? The gameplay is fun but nothing special. The focus is on the story, so that's where discussion focuses. Why does the game have tens of thousands of current players on Steam and high achievement completion rates?>and there's going to be more of itGod I hope so.>artificial successMeaning?>Ubisoft etc are doing to adopt this experiment as their business model.Yes fucking please. We might finally start getting good games regularly again.
>>729904702Ironic, considering versotards are the ones who lost their fucking minds post-reveal and went full genocide against their own interests because verso told them to. Maellechads are the ones who kept a clear head, who didn't fall for verso's deception and made the expedition succeed in the end.
>>729905185>What is Google?
>>729897704clea's stinky feet...
prove that you are not painted and that you have a soul right now
>>729904971Then catch them using it elsewhere. Show me a single texture in the game that was made with ai.
>>729905132one thing is certain, e33 threads consists of majority if not everyone hating on this shit game while that one faggot obsessed with hands defends it as if his life depends on it.
>>729905364More like the exact opposite. A couple schizos endlessly seething while normal people talk about the game.
>>729905213>effortpostFuck no.All I'm gonna say is you have shitty taste in games, and you're probably under 30 years old for thinking AI is going to anything other than make generic slop like every other application it's been used in.Vidya is gonna be different because humans "curate" it? Gimme a break. The kind of people making vidya now are millennial lesbians and browns. These people are already afflicted with poor decision making in what's supposed to be a white male workplace. Letting these fuckers do yoga and eat cereal all day instead of working is not going to improve the end product.
