I just beat the game, and I am surprised there is even debate about the final decision.The game is called what? Clair Obscur: *Expedition 33*.What is the goal of the Expedition 33? To save Lumière.In what ending Lumière is saved? Maelle's ending. Done, decision taken.What does the other ending entail? It entails not only commiting genocide of all people from Lumière, but also killing all the gestrals, plant life and all living beings from the world. You do more damage than a gommage ever would. "Oh, but they are not real because they are not narcissistic histerical gods!" Not my problem. No gods, no masters. The expedition above everything. Picking the Verso ending yields the same results as a Game Over.What is this dweeb even crying about? He should have been court-martialed for crimes against humanity, not told to play a piano.
>>729903283this but unironically
I got this impression as well. People seemed so quick to abandon their task. And for what? Why am I supposed to give a fuck about the antagonists more than Lumiere? The idea of Lumiere not being "real" falls completely fucking flat in the face of the reality that this is a video game and the "real world" isn't real either.
>>729904068I am not being ironic.I genuinely paid attention to the story and remembered that the whole point of it is saving Lumière against godlike figures intended to destroy it, not betraying everyone and erasing it.It is so obvious. If you were distracted from this, you did not beat the game.
>>729904510The realness of Lumière is not even relevant. It is just another distraction coming from the people who want to destroy it. Lumière is made of better people who have for a century defied godlike beings and survived against all odds. They trusted you with an expedition.Then you go back, backstab them, and finish what no nevron or gommage ever did and commit a real genocide? How does that make sense?The drama of the Dessendres is pointless, same as the realness of everything. These creatures are imbued with the will to survive. In every sentence, they insist they want to live. How can you then be so dumb and actively decide against the expedition and every living being that got you to the ending?
You save Lumiere but at what cost. Everyone who went on the Expedition knows Maelle is a painter. If you're not autistic you could tell be their expressions during Maelle's ending they're not comfortable at all, they're like a Jew living in Nazi Germany.
>>729903283This Anon would pull the lever in the trolley problem without any hesitation, completely disregarding the moral dilemma at hand.>What decision would make the less victims? Me pulling the lever. Boom. Done. 5 people saved. I'm so fucking smart.
>>729904879The painter family dies in the real world because they spent too long retreated in the painted world and now there's there's nothing stopping the writers from destroying the painting from the outside nuking everything.
>>729905073I would do this and I would say that.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MAELLE DON'T MAKE ME LIVE OUT MY PASSION
Fuckin Maelle fags… Enjoy living in your cave watching shadows on the wall you dumb fuck.
>>729903283Hi, Verso here. I killed your faggot waifus and erased the canvas to save what was left of my real self's soul and THERE IS NOTHING you can do about it
>>729905786>forcing someone to do something at paint point is the same as doing it by choice
>>729904793The cost of immortality is too much. Kid soul Verso has been at it way too long. Maelle attempts to heal the soul but it still leaves adult Verso unable to die. It's a terrible curse to place on one person.The paintings and Maelle have finite lives, they could never understand the pain Verso goes through.
>>729903283>The game is called what? Clair Obscur: *Expedition 33*. Notice how it's called Clair Obscur first, Expedition 33 second? That's because the expeditions are merely set dressing for the true story about the Dessendres. What is the whole goal of the game? To save Aline and later Alicia.>In what ending are Aline and Alicia saved? Verso's endingDone, decision taken.
>>729903283And what is the Expedition? A suicide squad willing to give their life to save it.What doesn't Alicia do in the end? Give up her life as Maelle, and willing to leave the painting and agree not to come back to save it.>What is this dweeb even crying about?Being forced to watch his beloved sister kill herself over a painting he made, rendering his sacrifice pointless, which started everything.Alicia just becomes the new Aline in her ending: sees pVerso as the real one, everyone she brings back is a mere imitation who'll act/think however she wants; simply playing god, hooked on the canvas drug, torturing her brother's soul.Congratulations on being in the small-brained minority, though. Fewer Alicia apologists with each passing day, but it least we'll have you when they finally go extinct.
>>729903283>It entails not only commiting genocide of all people from LumièreThey are already dead. The genocide already happened. The question is whether to bring them back, assuming they even can be, or let them rest and let the Dessendres start healing.>killing all the gestralsThey were created by Verso as little more than toys. They're fine with Verso choosing to stop painting.>plant lifeNigger they're plants.>Oh, but they are not realThey are real. Verso's ending is still better, both for the Dessendres and Lumiere.
>>729906205sorry to break it to you anon, but Clair Obscur does not reference the Dessendres, it is the name of the franchise, there will be future Clair Obscur games that have nothing to do with that family of degenerates.therefore, the subtitle Expedition 33 is the most significant aspect of the game, thank god I'm a Maellechad who understood this and chose the correct ending.
>>729905880BASED
>>729906491Clair Obscur is a painting method. The Dessendres are painters who heavily utilize that method. In any case, it refers to the real world, which means my point about the Expeditions being merely a side story remains true.
>>729903283Its called learning pea brain. Going on a mission only to LEARN more and realize theres a different more important mission that you need to do shouldn't be too hard to grasp.
Just dropping into this bait thread to say that the Claire Obscura theme and leitmotif only plays during Verso's Leave ending. In Maelle's it does in fact, not play.That is all.
>>729906971Be patient. This is an Aliciatard you're talking to. They're not exactly know for being smart, otherwise they would've picked the correct ending.
>>729905073No one dies versus everybody dies is not exactly the trolley problem.>>729906281>And what is the Expedition? A suicide squad willing to give their life to save itWhat is it?Lumière.For those who come after and everything.You give your life to save it, not to genocide it ffs.There is no bigger game over than you destroying Lumière and killing all the gestrals and nuking the whole world for the sake of a demiurge. You departed from Lumiére to kill the supposed demiurge that was killing everyone ffs.How can people even forget this? Lune and Sciel are begging for their lives.
>>729903283>>729904068>>729904510Not video games>>/tv/
>>729907592>for the sake of a demiurgeYou're just living under a new demiurge and on borrowed time no less
>>729903283Whatever emotional investment there was in the expedition died in the 3rd act. The story narrowed its scope to a grieving family self-inserting into a fantasy land to cope with their loss, completely trivializing the struggles of the expedition. I'd rather Maelle touch grass than continue being a Mary Sue.
