>This was once considered the cringiest, most lowest point Star Wars could go
>>729908608and yet now it's edgekino
>>729908608...Until the sequels came.
Say it
>>729908608do millennials enjoy anything? a lot of my friends liked the force unleashed games.
>>729908608achievements/trophies ruined my video game life for years. I was more interested into completing stupid achievement instead of having fun and playing the way I wanted to play. I remember all those shit achievements after using certain powers on stormtroopers. took me years so stop giving a fuck about achievements.
nah it wasn't hated nearly as much as the empire strikes back upon release
>>729908608And it was still fantastic fun
>>729908754Why did you sell your life's work to the white slavers?
>>729908608>released in 2010This came out after TCW so Pre-Disney Star Wars had already bottomed out two years before.
>>729908608It's up there. star wars specials are there too
>>729908608Every game from the 2000s that was widely considered as bad by basedlord millennials is usually pretty good actually
>>729909038Except Mario Sunshine, which really did deserve the backlash.
>>729908608Not nearly as bad TCW or the Dark Nest trilogy, still pretty bad. Also extremely annoying that TFU games retconned a shit ton of the early Rebellion era continuity only to leave a gigantic hole in the timeline where Vader is captured and the Rebellion has two Jedi allies and there's no resolution for that.
>>729908608There was a sequel? How does that work? I played the first one and thought the DMM physics engine was insane. It is still one of the most advanced even today. Decent game too.
>>729908846>I remember all those shit achievements after using certain powers on stormtroopers. took me years so stop giving a fuck about achievements.wow, i feel bad for people who somehow live life on sucb autopilot that they would value arbitrary achievments over their own fun. Genuinely happy for you, learning to value yourself and learn to appreciate games for what they are and stop treating them like some kind of thing to "complete" like some kind of...non game?
>>729909246>There was a sequel? How does that work?You play as a clone of Galen Marek and your primary antagonist is the camera.
>>729909138nah sunshine is great, chuds just couldnt accept that it wasn't mario 64 2
>>729908608It was alright. Thought the novelization was really good though. >>729909213TCW was basically the start of the Disney era yeah. I haven't read Dark Nest in years but I'm sure it wasn't as bad as the Callista trilogy and I say that as a Bantam lover, but I remember thinking they were the worst Star Wars had ever gotten. Pretty sure when I get to them in my EU re-read I'm doing I'll have the same opinion.
>>729909531>my EU re-readHow long is that going to take? There must be a hundred books or more just in the old EU.
>>729909312>your primary antagonist is the cameraSo just like the first one.
>>729909312
Doesn't the guy die at the end of the first one? Who's the protag in the sequel?
>>729909740A mentally unstable clone of the first guy.
>>729909630I've been reading it off and on for about a year now, including comics. I'm on the AOTC novelization, so in terms of numbers, I'm on 223 out of 678 I think? It's not a perfect one-to-one in terms of numbers because the comics are split up or combined into collections depending on what I could get. To answer your question I'll probably be done in two years or so I think. I'm splitting it up into eras and when I'm done with one I spend a month or so reading non-fiction or other authors. I threw out the TOR shit and the TCW related comics and novels which helped a bit.
>>729909880Clone wars comics and novels are dope tho. Vader out hunting and killing Jedi is entertaining.
>>729908754Where's my SotE fan film?
I'm not convinced he was a clone.
>>729908734>>729908608This games was rush before Disney shut down the studios.
>>729909880>I threw out the TOR shitDoes that mean you're not doing the Bane trilogy?
>>729909531I'm not sure if the Dark Nest trilogy is objectively worse than the Callista books, but the issue is that picking up the Dark Nest books after reading NJO is such a massive whiplash in quality that it multiplies the displeasure exponentially, and in terms of damaging the continuity, the Dark Nest books really take the cake since it assassinates so many characters, particularly what they did to Jacen. And don't even get me started on the abominable bug telepathic sex thing, that is in my opinion 1000x cringer than that scene with Luke and Callista.
>>729910215No I am, the image I posted is what I'm reading, TOR stuff is the novels like Revan, Deceived, etc. anything around the MMO. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Old_Republic_(novel_series)
only complaint I remember about this game is it was too short and felt unfinished, not about it being cringe or anything
what if they remade the entire dark forces jedi knight saga and crammed it all into one big package
>>729908909Hello i'm an ESL, i've always wanted to know if that quote meant "slavers that are white" or slavers who slave white people?"
>>729909531>I say that as a Bantam lovermy nigga
>>729909880>soon this guy gets to read the trilogy of Labyrinth of Evil, Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, and Dark Lord: the Rise of Darth Vaderlucky
>>729908608I never bought it I just played the demo a bunch It was fun
>>729908754Yes the prequels were badBut whatever his idea of how the sequels would be, they would've been a MILLION times better than what we got
>>729908608The sequel was a mixed bag, but I loved all the ways you could torture storm troopers in force games.>force grab>stab with saber throw>force lightning>throw across the map
>>729909880Oh man I remember some of the Galaxy of Fear books
>>729908754I didn't like the prequels but didn't hate it either. Feels like movies weren't the right format for it.
>>729910242Yeah I'll have to judgement call it when I get there. It's been a long time, but I fully admit to having a bias in terms of what I deem the worst. I really might consider the Jedi Prince series the worst the EU has to offer because while I will fully admit to liking a lot of post NJO content, the Denning criticisms are probably more valid than cringing at a trilogy revolving around a one-off character that never went anywhere. Separately, I do also feel now that so much time has passed that the EU ending when it did was most likely the best outcome we could have gotten since George and Filoni were already demolishing it, and they were going to continue to do so. And while I'd have rather Dawn of the Jedi and Knight Errant or the legacy comics would have gotten their due and actually had fully fleshed-out endings, the EU sort of ended right when there was a full cultural reset, and I don't know what that would have looked like in the space.
>>729908754There should have been a miniseries focusing on podracingThere I said it
>>729910385I wish I could forget all the Matthew Stover and James Lucino books all so I could read them for the first time again, easily my favorite SW writers.
>>729908754I would have enjoyed the prequels more if George took more some to critically think about his ideas. Instead he turned in his first half finished rough draft and then fucked out of the studio to enjoy another succulent food court meal.
>>729908754You should have made Red Tails 2 instead of selling to Disney.
KINO!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT7TD5T4vtc
>>729910447Supposedly Lucas wanted a story that looked more closely at the role of microbes in the Star Wars universe. That sounds shit, ngl, but with Lucas in the director's chair or somewhere near it, the films would have had the old soul. At the beginning of TFA, Abrams shot a shaky-cam assault scene in the style of Saving Private Ryan, letting us know from the outset that the classical Lucas style of photography was out and cheap Spielberg imitations were in. The influences of Ford and Kurosawa were nowhere to be seen, except in the occasional mindless wipe transition.
>>729908754he ruined episode 6 by making vader scream "noooo" when he threw palatine to his death. made the scene way more cheesy and ridiculous. god damnit
What is the best version of Ep1 Racer anyway?
>>729908608Thought that was SWTOR.
>>729911153Pretty sure he had already ruined Episode 6 by showing the embarrassing Battle of Endor.
>>729911162I've only ever played the N64 version. Never got around to it before I killed the disc drive in my Dreamcast with CD-Rs.
>>729911060Why anyone trusted Abrams after he raped the Trek films, I will never understand.
>>729910770Frankly the Denning books aren't bad when isolated besides the Bugs, it's just frustrating seeing everything that was set up at the end of the Vong war get thrown out of the window because Denning wanted to force his favorite ships and really wanted to make Jacen the cringiest edgelord of all time for some God forsaken reason, and his inability to not make everyone catastrophically retarded every other book doesn't help too.
>>729908909A billion dollars is a lot of money
>>729911473His directing was fine aside from the obnoxious lens flare. The movie was well paced and entertaining to watch. The real problem Trek from that point on is Kurtzman's writing.
>>729908608The lowest point was 10 years of EA doing jack shit and then Disney took over.
>>729911473The problem is in 2015 people brainwashed themselves into thinking Force Awakens was great because of nostalgia bait. And then when he came back for the third film that bait shit wasn't sinking in
>>729910348Slavers are the people who enslave, White is an adjective modifying slaver. White slavers means slavers who are White.
>>729910348Slavers who enslave whitesMostly considered old fashioned today, but during Victorian times through WW1 mostly referred to Ottomans (muslims) enslaving white Christians from the the Near East.There's also use of it in the USA in the past in reference to the Barbary Pirates of North Africa (who sold to the Ottomans), and infact, was the USA's first foreign deployment of US Marines to the shores of Tripoli and popularized in The Marines' Hymn, often used in US military movies.
>>729908608>cringiest, most lowest pointCringiest? Maybe, but it was cringe kino. It was a game that was not afraid to make you feel badass no matter how edgy you'd also feel in the process.
>>729908754>already rich for life>Sells his IP for money out of pure greed>initially says he doesn't care what they do>he actually does care and is saltyLucas is a cuck. He'll be the equivalent of a greek parable in the future to new creators
>>729911810To boomers like George, White people are the default slavers. That he said White slavers implies to me that the slavers enslave Whites.
>>729911473>>729911623CAN'T STAND ITI KNOW YOU PLANNED IT
>>729908608>This was once considered the cringiest, most lowest point Star Wars could goIt was this, no matter how much I'm Han Solo revisionism there is.
>>729912050Ah shit, I forgot about this debacle. This is even worse than TCW, Jesus Christ.
>>729909531>Callista trilogy and I say that as a Bantam loverNothing, pre Vector Prime, was worse than The Crystal Star, when Leia is a major POV character and becomes a bounty hunter to save her kids from cult slavers.
>>729912050I completely forgot this was a real game. I imagine it was bad.
>>729908608>most lowest
>>729912190Yeah, he's not ESL
>>729912050>>729912119>>729912153https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84YXPw4htnQ
>>729911473>PT hate is at its peak just before Lucas sells Star Wars to Disney>Around this time the RLM prequel reviews are blowing up on youtube>Mike Stoklasa says JJ Abrams should be the one in charge of directing the new movies>His own words in their Half In The Bag TFA review are "I loved it. It was everything I was hoping it would be."
>>729911473Pure optimism. It was 2015, a completely different era. Entertainment and media wasn't completely raped like now.
>>729912143I never read Crystal Star, but I always hear the only thing it got right was Leia's characterization. I think I read somewhere that Vonda McIntyre was a Trek writer primarily. Might explain the weird shit I've heard about the book.
>>729912050>majority of playable jedis are womena strange foreshadowing of the future
>>729912269>they had the balls to have the first spoken dialogue of the Sequels suck RLM's dick about fixing the Prequels>the Sequels faceplant and kill the IP
>>729912269>>729912431RLM was the embodiment of the HIRE FANS mentality gone wrong (gone sexual)
>>729912259Despite my visceral hatred that they sold this piece of shit game to people, I think seeing the Star Wars characters doing stupid ass tik tok dances (especially the villains) is really, really fucking funny.
>>729912269RLM really should've stuck to reviewing bad moviesTheir latest SW video was pure schizoid
>>729912640>Their latest SW video was pure schizoidLet me guess:>yeah okay the Disney Stars Wars stuff is pretty bad>BUT THE PREQUELS ARE WORSE!
>>729912640They're STILL making those?!
>>729912269>>729912431>>729912545I stopped caring for RLM's opinions on Star Wars when they (mainly Mike) had a melty over Rogue One, the (yeah yeah) best Star Wars we got from the Disney era, and thanks to Andor (the best Star Wars thing since ROTS) it made it better. You know I am right.
>>729912050I'M SOLOI'M HAN SOLO
Jedi Dooku.
>>729912747The first two seasons of The Mandalorian were alright as well.
>>729912714Not him but basically the point in the last half is that new fans will re-evaluate The Acolyte for being different, but the joke is that it's bad.
>>729912259MFW niggerman beats me in a danceoff and he's the emperor now
>>729912843Nic Cage?
>>729912843Honestly they could make millions with a spinoff series about shit that happens like 30 years before the main series.
>>729912861The Mandalorian had a promising first episode and then a meh to bad first season before having an awful second season and a putrid third.
>>729908608Lucasarts weren't ran by Karens at that point.
>>729912890I've said before but all the Reylo shippers will eventually grow up (if they haven't already idk) and populate online discourse with sequel revisionism
>>729913134It's been 10 years. I was told the 12 year olds watching TFA would be flooding the internet with Sequels praise by now. Where are they?
>>729913274I have only seen one genuinely positive post about them here so I'm assuming that was the breaking of the dam.
>>729908608Is it not still? What happened since then?
>>729913274delayed zoomer attention span10 more years
>>729913274People were doing that about The Last Jedi the year after it came out. It's just 9 was so bad that it took the wind out of their sails.
>>729913134I think majority of the Reylo shippers are mentally ill middle aged white women.
>What if I told you that the Republic was now under the control of a dark lord of the Sith by the name of Darth Sidious? And that one day he'll possess a clone body of himself named Snoke, and dress said clone up in a comfy golden robe with matching slippers
>>729913003Superman? Ghost Rider?
>As the first technician—Target Number One—lunged for the emergency alarm to summon security, IG-88 moved with blurring speed to the component-laden table. He snatched up a disconnected droid arm. With its metal fingers splayed like daggers, it made the perfect projectile weapon. He scanned the surface of the metal limb, calculated a flight path and expected deviation due to air resistance, then hurled it like a spear.>The disconnected droid arm plunged into the back of the turning technician, tore through his spinal column, and followed through his sternum. The lifeless metal hand protruded through splintered bone in the front of his chest, holding the technician’s quivering heart in rigid metal fingers. Target Number One collapsed onto one of the diagnostic panels.Man these sw books are for kids but they're fun
>>729914536So long as you avoid herkily jerkily
>>729912386I never read any of McIntyre's other works, but I did read somewhere that The Crystal Star was originally an original story that was overhauled into a SW book which I can believe.
>>729908608Proof that things can always get worse.
>>729912269>>729911473>Was the first pick to make Episode 7>chose to make the flop Tomorrowland insteadImagine...
>There is a cloud around me now. Around all of us. It is like a sickness. A fever in the blood. War everywhere. Cruelty. Killing. Some in my name.
>>729910348Look up the barbary pirates slave trade, they were taking europeans to africa way before "muh slavry" happened. Also the ottomans were fond of enslaving europeans, that's why there's european looking turks nowadays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHIesTfswBAThe ROTS novelization lives in my head rent free.
real niggas know
>>729908846most pathetic post of 2026 that you ever gave a shit to begin with
>>729914974GOAT Star Wars content
>>729915083
>>729915083>>729915142God tier. I've always wondered how much of this was Stover and how much of this was from an earlier draft of the movie.
>>729908608According to whom? You faggot?
>>729914882>I'm tired Master. So tired. And like any old man nearing his end... I long to go home.
>>729913995Was Snoke a clone too?
>>729908608Nobody foresaw cringe feminist garbage programmed by jeets and feminists.
Guys is SWTOR worth playing solo for the story or nah?
>>729915178I'm surprised there aren't more annotations in this part, but Stover included one after the>The conference room was, as the expression goes, a dead end.line, and it reads>No, I am not overly fond of cheesy puns. Honest!So I think it's all him. The earlier script probably just said that Anakin enjoys himself as he slaughters the CIS leadership.I wish they kept the silly puns. I always interpreted the mission to Mustafar as being a reward to Anakin for destroying the Jedi. He fucking hates the CIS leadership for the Clone Wars and his emotions are finally unleashed, thus the Sith eyes in the film. Let the guy style on them as he murders them.
>>729915584The base story is good, but I thought the expacs were all bad.
>>729915648Ah, thanks.
>>729915719Smuggler is my favorite but I haven't finished all of them yet, so I recommend that class first.
>>729915632I really love seeing him immerse himself in the dark side. In general, I love ROTS for showing how quickly it corrupts someone. He went from trying to save Padmé to choking her to death because of his possessive desire for her quickly. Pretty good way of showing how the road to hell is paved with good intentions.https://youtu.be/djgVOB83dno
>>729912747Rogue One is fine for half the movie. The other half is boring as shit. Looking at Felicity Jones's cute face looking dumbfounded is not good writing.
>>729914974>Though this is the end of the age of heroes, it saved its best for last.
Dreamt of Malachor again
>>729916194The war is over, general.
>>729916138The Dark is Generous. https://youtu.be/94ZszwbmJII
>>729908608It really wasn't. TFU was missed potential, but TFU2 was just unnecessary, but it wasn't a low point or embarrassing
>>729916672I feel bad for the dev team of TFU2 more than anything else, I think they only had like six months to make it.
>>729908754He forgot the Rule of Two. If he had lived the lifestyle he wrote about, he could have raised an apprentice that would carry on the legacy of Star Wars for 1,000 years.
>>729917193He did. The cowboy hat should have been a warning that the betrayal would come too early
>>729917193Filoni never shuts the fuck up about how he is George's Padawan learner and successor.Don't think I've ever heard George echo that sentiment though.Cowboy hat wearing dog fucker.
>>729908846people read posts like this, and then say that cucksoles and consoletards weren't a blight on video games.
https://youtu.be/_C3fa8S1cccI just want more dudes killing each other with guns desu
>>729912562kinetic gimmick shit would be kino if it wasn't such an expensive piece of shit.I wonder if valve could make something like this using steamlink on phones or maybe wit their new VR thing.
>>729915987But looking at her ass is
>>729908608>This was once considered the cringiest, most lowest point Star Wars could goFor people with bad taste. In reality it was cool as fuck and people loved playing it.
>>729908608It was great. Dialogue was just cheesy enough to be charming.
>Yes, we expect you to believe this could contain Darth Vader
>>729908608I never played the second game was there a scene as cool as starkiller bringing down a star destroyer?
>>729918627We even got classic Star Wars memes out of it.The best the Sequels could do is "They fly now?!" and "Somehow Palpatine returned"
>>729908754I'm never apologizing, because I always knew disney would ruin everything and that RLM were lazy gen x faggots without any original thoughts. George won in the end.
>>729908803I'm a millenial and I loved it. The only actual complaints I've heard about it were about him force pulling a star destroyer out of the sky. I've also seen people compare Starkiller to Rey with a>well Starkiller is also a generic character who is instantly amazing at everything and beats all the cool characters from the movies but people like Force Unleashed and hate the sequelsWhich is a stupid comparison because one is just a vessel for the player to self insert and go wild, while the other is supposed to be an important and canon character whom the franchise and its story revolves around.So yeah basically people here are miserable faggots and Force Unleashed is a cool game.
>>729919924Starkiller is also incomparable to Rey in the sense that he was trained from childhood by a Sith Lord to utilize the Dark Side (ie he was tortured his entire life to learn to use the Force) while Rey spent her entire life thinking the Jedi were a myth until she suddenly pulls the Force out of her ass.
>>729911473Nepotism in Hollywood decides whether you get the jobs or not.
>>729912843Why is he so.... Bald?
>>729920237mfw JJ got sent to director jail after TRoS
>>729908754Its this fuckers fault we have to deal with a combination of Filoniwars and Kathleen Kennedy’s demoralization ritual.
>>729908608The novelizations for this one and the sequel were pretty good desu.
>>729915268Dark Rendezvous was my first Star Wars novel. I was disappointed at first of how it added nothing new to what I already know of the canon, but the occasional flirting between hebe Scout and hormone-raging Whie.
>>729911153>he ruined episode 6 by making vader scream "noooo" when he threw palatine to his deathI genuinely cannot tell if this is a shitpost or not because the revised version all have absolutely retarded shit in them.t. unaltered trilogy purist
>>729920296What's he made since then?
>>729911473Abrams has always enjoyed a high reputation he has never deserved. Him, and Whedon.
>>729920040Rey is just a symptom of the rot that runs deep in westoid movie industry right now. She's not one of her kind, just look at Arya from Game of Thrones. Almost the exact same kind of face, same kind of Mary Sue.
>>729919924>>729920040It's actually even simpler than that. Rey is a Mary Sue, Starkiller is just overpowered. Rey instantly excels at everything both physically and mentally, the latter struggles throughout the game. Even the infamous Star Destroyer scene wasn't effortless and it wasn't him moving the entire ship through sheer force.
>>729908754PotteryDisney kikes ruined star wars
>>729920516Since 2019 he's filmed one movie called Ghostwriter that is in pre-production and he wrote two episodes of some dog shit show about the first black woman FBI agent.He got put in time-out for ruining Star Wars.
>>729908849I know this is bait but it's crazy that disney/TLJ fags actually believe Empire was hated upon release. It was overwhelmingly beloved immediately even by the most hardcore fans.
There's NO coming back from this. Why Disney thought it was a good idea to make the OT all for nothing is beyond me.People used to shit on the EU back in the 2000s but it's a goddamn masterpiece compared to the Disney storyline
>>729920816I think it's wild that they just hit the reset button on the setting. Say what you want about how long it took the rebellion to take the core worlds, but it at least felt like permanent progress was being made even when other fuck ups were happening in the galaxy.
>>729914974>15 seconds in>empal surecon center
>>729908608NuWars isn't canon and i refuse to accept it.
>>729908608>This was once considered the cringiest, most lowest point Star Wars could goWas it? I don't remember it being labelled as a low point in Star Wars.
>>729920890Short for the Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center (for Apprentices Who Don't Burn So Good)
The Sith Stalker armor was so sick it eclipses anything Disney has ever made aesthetically.
Will we ever get a lightsaber action game again, anons?
>>729920513They did actually add Vader screaming "No, No, NOOOOOOOO" when Luke is being shocked and he throws The Emperor into the tunnel or whatever the fuck. It was added in the 2011 bluray version and it's been in the movie ever since. I've seen those 4k versions floating around but I'm too lazy to get a VPN.
>>729921115The 8-ball says "Yes, but it will have a strong female protagonist"
>>729921048Formerly the Chancellor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center (ChanPal SuRecon Center)
>>729908754This fanbase of perpetually entitled, assmad, low IQ, ignorant faggot manchildren didn't deserve you. Rest easy.
>>729921115VR?I dunno, a third Jedi game?Dark Forces reboot?
and so far nobody has posted that sexy-ass Shaak ti. A pity.
>>729908608What's with all the revisionist history about star wars lately? "hurr durr return of the jedi was hated when it came out" no it fucking wasn't you lying freak
>>729908754i'm sowwypwease come backi want happy gud stowy againgimme sexy talon twiwek twitties
>>729921186I don't have sexy Shaak-Ti but would you be interested in this image of Cuute-Ti?
>>729921115There will be a third Fallen Order game, yeah
>>729921301too cutegonna cum
>>729921218God, I hate Endor so much. RotJ is lucky it has the scenes in the Death Star Throne Room otherwise it would be a Sequels tier movie.
>>729912747Sometimes I quote Rich Evans' >AT-AT WALKERS! I'M GONNA CUM! only when I say it it's unironic
>>729912050>>729912259sovl
https://youtu.be/u9g5XsoE4-s
>>729921115You've already got the recent Fallen Order and Jedi Survivor games, so it isn't as if you've been left out to dry since Force Unleashed 2.
>>729908754My name is Mike Stoklasa and I humbly apologize to you, Mr. Lucas.
>>729908608You know, edgelord kind of looks like Rey here, and I'm not sure if that's more of an insult to her or him.
Are we at the "blaming RLM for the sequel trilogy" era yet?
>>729921580Same hairline and angry, screaming face.
Star Wars games > The rest of Star Wars media.
people have realized that the only thing worse than "OC Mary Sue self-insert power fantasy" is "OC Mary Sue self-insert power (female)"
>>729921658We hit that era in 2015 and never left.
>>729915142I have no idea how the man who wrote that can also produce unironically great literature.
>>729919924Also Starkiller unironically had more character. He did.
>>729921658They were always wrong.
>>729921727>enter Star Wars EU books
>>729921813I know what I said.
>>729921658https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKm4ueVuxpYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e7Upf6i7dE
>>729921135https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGaSxSuB2vYI thought the additional cgi scene spam was the worst of it, I cannot believe this shit actually exists and will continue to just ignore every version that came after the originals.How the fuck do you rape a movie this badly? Who actually greenlits this crap? Who actually thinks the scene is better now?I'll go back to my OLD GOOD NEW BAD time capsule now, fuck this fucking shit I'm not even that old to begin with.
and it is still a very bad game with an even worse sequel.
>>729921774He had more "story" and plot. He had no character. He is bland as fuck. He literally has no discernible traits other then angry and tense.
>>729921774it's hilarious because it's true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAumBkRESuY
>>729915083>>729915142>all these puns>but "be careful not to choke on your aspirations" is too much
Remember when Revenge of the Sith was re-released last year for its 20 year anniversary for only a couple of days with basically no promotion and it became one of the biggest re-releases of all time
>>729922025Rogue One is an honorary prequel along with Andor
>>729922101please die
>>729922025Only people who complained about that were prequel kids, Vader has at least 2 of those in each of the original films.
>>729922101please live
>>729922096
>>729922025This novel is shit and contradicts the movie pretty hard. Rogue One is also fucking shit, and that hallway scene is embarrassing.
>>729922146This.>all too easy>apology accepted, captain needa
>>729909880Are post vong books worth anything?
>>729922214>contradicts the movie pretty hardGood, the movie sucks ass
>>729922101Consider suicide.
>>729921871The extra CGI lightning on Luke's teeth when he's being shocked gets me every time. I can't even be mad at George anymore. I respect the troll.
>>729922096Did it track that well?
>>729922214>Rogue One is also fucking shit, and that hallway scene is embarrassing.Nope and Nope.
>>729922214You have shit taste in books if you hate the ROTS novel, but you're right that Rogue One is shit.
>>729922265Nice selfie. Makes sense why your opinions are so trash - you're brown.
>>729922260It comes down to your opinion on Vergere more than anything.
>tfw want to write a sith win scenario>already writing a major rewrite of one of my childhood favorites>writing dommy dc cape smut on the sidei hate this
>>729922214The novel makes the best Star Wars movie a gorillion times better.
didn't know how good we had it...
>>729922325ROTS novel is dogshit. Read actual literature, instead of licensed tie-in fanfiction merchandise written by noname hacks for pennies with the sole intention of cashing in on the films' namesake.
The first level with the rain was the best part of the game.
Mike Stoklasa lost.
>>729922272>civilizations in a space opera need to be a 1:1 remake of irl civilizations
>>729922396This reads like it was written for retards. Like the guy literally beating you in the head. This garbage seems to have made a mortal enemy of any kind of subtlety. And on many, many occasions, it made the movie much, much worse, by shoehorning nonsensical, previously non-existent motivations and explanations that no one asked for.
>>729922396>painters>composersThis is non-Star Wars language and it is shit
>>729922416>Read actual literaturePosts some. Bonus points for stories that people cared about back when the author was alive.
>>729922465>the Sequels humiliate RLM by doing exactly what they said they should do and failing>then Star Trek gets raped as hard as Luke Skywalker didahahahaha get FUCKED fat Mike
>>729922475They also need to have 1:1 replicas of AK rifles. We are dealing with INSURGENCY here, in case you missed it!
>4chan hates RLM nowNo...
>>729922562they were upset at star trek being ruined and felt star wars needed to be ruined because it was successful while not being real sci-fidespite, you knowstar trek being basic bitch fantasy tech sci-fi itself
>>729922580>now
>>729922531They have operas and art in the Star Wars universe, you goon.
>>729922348Not him but that movie is kinda shit if you haven't seen the cartoon. If you haven't seen Grevious' introduction, there are simply no stakes to taking him down, and it just feels like Obiwan is separating from Anakin to fight some villain of the week because the plot needs them to be separated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUC7xb2Xxwg
>>729922571I will not take this as anything more than a surface level criticism. Star Wars since its inception has used real world weapons for its blasters, several with less modifications than this.
>>729922664Anakin has a doctorate
>>729922571No one tell him what an E-11 or a T-21 is supposed to be IRL
>>729922690but its clearly just an ak74 complete with standard short magazine, >>729922690 this only looks like a lewis gun to people who know things about ww1 guns
>>729910804and it shouldn't have taken over 25 years to get another pod racing game
>>729922687Buddy, you don't need to watch this ugly, cheap toy ad at all. More so, Grievous in this toy ad and in the movie are completely different characters. The stakes of taking him down are established well enough in the movie itself — he needs to be taken down to end the war and revoke the chancellor's emergency powers. And as you can see, it has nothing to do with your cringe "ZOMG HE IS SO POWERWUL, HE TOOK DOWN 10 JEDI AT ONCE, HE IS SO SCAWWYYYYYYYYYYYY"In fact, the movie and George Lucas personally outside of the movie stated that that was never the case or intent.
>the blaster upgrade in the real BF2>blaster pistol upgrade in the real BF2>damage upgrade in the real BF2
>>729922838And a T-21 is just a Lewis Gun without a magazine. An E-11 is a Sterling SMG with a cutoff mag and some plastic bits glued onto it.
>>729922838>this only looks like a lewis gun to people who know things about ww1 gunsConsidering WWI veterans would've been in their 70's and 80's when ANH premiered, I imagine that number would've been pretty high
>>729922502Is the "count dooku actually felt le sad" after cutting off anakin's arm in episode 2 part of this crap?Haven't read any of this shit but last I heard after picking up SW again it seems that "fans" are so incapable of reading basic human facial expressions that they cannot even see that dooku was merely exhausted in the movie, and now that whole debate actually made the retarded fan headcanon the actual "canon".
>>729922838It's also being held by a human in a different galaxy long, long ago before humans existed probably.
>>729922629Yes now. They were always /ourguys/
>>729922687Everything involving the world of the prequels outside of the movies themselves is kino.
>>729922978Well this is all theory channels have left, because nobody cares about disney SW stuff.
>>729922883>he also doesn't like Genndy WarsSheer contrarianism at this point.
>>729922925if the stormtroopers had been carrying belts for their lewis guns the whole time people would have always been saying how it looks like an old world war gun.
>>729922883True butrule of cool.
>>729923046Genndywars was always Styleslop over substance. Thankfully, Lucas fixed it with his TCW.
>>729922978I haven't read the Episode II novelization but in the Episode III one, Sidious and Dooku have a conversation on the Invisible Hand where Dooku expresses disgust that Anakin would demean himself by getting a robot hand and Sidious tells him that if that's how he feels, maybe he shouldn't have cut his arm off kekHe's also a Warhammer 40k human supremacist in the novelization.
>>729922978Don't know about that, I don't watch Star Wars slop YouTubers — it's the ultimate low IQ content just barely a step above of literal AI-brainrot — but that shitty novel made Dooku some kind of rancid human supremacist for some reason, who really hates cybernetics. It's so fucking dumb. Not only it makes zero sense with the character's story and background, but it also just reads like, "Hmmm, how do I make this guy even more evil, before he gets killed? Gotcha, I'm gonna make him a heckin' racist!"
>>729923058And them carrying Wehrmacht ammo pouches and holsters didn't?
>>729923024They're geriatric oldtroons who were wrong about everything
>>729922883>being an actually intimidating villain is cringe>being a silly mustache twirling villain is basedBrother you can not like the cartoon, but a lot of pivotal character moments happen with Anakin in that show. From his Knighthood, to a few warm character moments between him and Obiwan (which episode 1 and 2 are seemingly devoid of), to showing Padme and Anakin having to live dual lives.
>>729923147This. Unironically this.
>>729923147>ashoka shitDo you really want to die on this hill?
>>729923046I am a functioning adult, and I need something more than a literal toy ad for manchildren that consists almost entirely of mindless, ridiculous, stupid action. It's gets exhausting seeing Mace Windu, who looks like Squidward but black from Sponge Bob, doing a barrel roll in the air, and then karate chopping motionless droids who don't react in any way. Feels like my brain is rotting. Might have been impressive if I was like four.
>>729923030>dindu.webm
>>729908608That's exactly what Star Wars should be, I just finished the original trilogy and good gracious it has nothing of what I love about Star Wars, they need a fucking remake to trim the fat (like 70% is fat) and add more cool shit to them.Make Luke go liberate towns from the Empire's control, have him duel some bosses who might also have force power or use lightsabers besides Darth Vader.Make up enemies like Grievous or a gauntlet of shadow assassins for him to have epic duels and showcase the progress of his training.Force Unleashed and the prequels made me expect cool shit from this franchise that the OT simply lacks
>>729923331nigga I went to the day 1 screening of The Clone Wars at my theater (when the premiere of the series was actually 4 episodes made into a movie) and it was just me and 4 other people. Of course I will die on this hill.
>tfw no story about the last of the real Sith>last surviving member of the Sith "Pureblood" species>blood so diluted, skin is pink and passes as a Zeltron>do street jobs to survive, eventually getting wrapped up in crime>forced to use sith alchemy and magic to survive an ambush>Jedi and Baneite Sith catch wind>evades both for as long as he can before he can't anymore>crime family turns on him,so he has to slaughter them all>the fucking jedi come in with a strike team immediately after and he has to throw down with the premier duelist of the age>Baneite Apprentice shows up >Even wilder and brutal than the previous two fights, ending with the real Sith impaling the Baneite's arm and braining him against the wall until he finally stopped>Ending is him limping to the spaceport, everyone in his path terrified of him, and just inching out of the path of blaster bolts fired his way>Collapses as ship goes into hyperspace, breaking down emotionally at losing everything again >isn't even that bad of a guy>crime was being born sith>ending is vague if he bleeds out as the ship stops in unknown space
>>729923340>literal toy adOkay smartass then where is my lego fuckhuge stomp-machine?
>>729923030>TCW>kino
>>729912765>>729921417sovlo
>>729922687Where the fuck do you get the GOOD Clone Wars in 4K HDR? This some AI upscaled shit?
>>729923304>>being a silly mustache twirling villain is basedYeah, actually. Star Wars is based on the classical Saturday matinee serials, like Flash Gordon, and the movie Grievous fits that vibe perfectly. He is campy and fun, as he should be. This is an adventure movie. Unlike that cringe ass tryhard edgelord powerfantasy for machildren from the cartoon.>but a lot of pivotal character moments happen with Anakin in that showNot really. Everything pivotal happens in the movies. No one cares how Anakin got knighted. It is absolutely irrelevant. Everyone would assume anyway that he got knighted after the events of II, which was more than implied anyway.
>>729923481Yes stalker child, TCW is Kino. You have been told this many thousands of time already. This is why your life is already over. Wait for the knock
>>729923451Fair enough.
>>729916672fuck you officer bearsky
for me it's this retard. and no i will never watch the show because he peaked in the comics and books.
>>729923528Idk man probably. I think they put it on Disney plus in HD a while back. I assume that's where the HD torrent I've seen floating around is from. But it could just be from someone that just ran it through AI. It was the first video I found before the captcha expired.
Back then>Grievous coughs in ROTS because Windu crushed his chest while capturing PalpatineNow>Erm...Grievous always had that cough OKAY?!?!?
>>729908803>do millennials enjoy anything?No.
>>729908608>bought the PC version of the first game a while ago>find out that it's missing a few force powers that are actually exclusive to the Wii version that I played many years ago, such as Force ChokeDamn
>>729923456>>last surviving member of the Sith "Pureblood" speciesRetconning Sith into a bunch of humans but red with dicks on their faces, who had OT-like Empire but 4000 years ago, might be one of the dumbest shit in the EU - and that's saying something.
>>729923147How can you blame Genndy though? His first SW:TCW run were like 5 minute long episodes that played between Cartoon Network cartoons back in the day. There was no way you could fit story in those, so action had to take the main stage.
>>729923690I always lose my shit when the Jedi chick runs through before being shot in the back l m a o
>>729923528>>729923629I think there where already HD upscales before the AI boom...?Torrented it not too long ago but I'm fairly certain the torrent itself was a good amount of years old already.
>>729923690>those 2 jedi getting killed by the mandalorianjesus those animations are fucking tom and jerry tier comical
>>729923690...But that's what they were like?
>>729923639It was actually never the case "back then". It doesn't even make sense. There are no signs of any damage on his chest anywhere in the movie. The actual reason was always that he had imperfect prototype cybernetics that caused him to have cough - that was the story Lucas and the people making the actual movie had in mind. It was foreshadowing Vader's iconic breathing. Not what Genndy had to haphazardly make up a week before airing date, because he suddenly found out that movie Grievous coughed, and his Grievous didn't.
>>729923690Anon, the Sith were being bred to be more human like by the time of fucking RagnosLedo Kressh had pink skin
fellow zoomers, when did you realize it was the best one?
>>729923556>it's a toy ad>but actually it's for le tryhard serious adults acktuallyMake up your mind already moron.Hell the bullcrap you're spouting doesn't even make sense when you look at which show actually generated the whole marketing toy boom for itself.
>>729923729>TCW revised Barriss Offee from being Anakin's peer and one of his friends to being Ahsoka's friend who later becomes an Islamic terroristFUCK
>>729923872>when your image disproves you statementderpmy badit's been a while
>>729923872Tales of the Jedi was peak Star Wars.
>>729921658Been at that state for years
>>729908754what did you do to him george
>>729923897It's okayshe becomes the head of the underground rail road for force sensitives because women are wonderful and can do no wrong:)>>729923912i'm really fucking hating exar kun's plot armor right nowhe should've been dead four times over at this point and he's not even dark lord
https://youtu.be/sWNrrgz8-nQOnly TRVE oldfags remember watching this premiere on Cartoon Network.
>>729923639It was a nice tie-in but mace windu crushing him was never canon, the director supposedly took a bit too many liberties.
>>729908754Shit wars is garbage. You're garbage. Go fuck yourself with a toy lightsaber.
>>729923030I thought Jedi were supposed to be compassionate. Why did Dindu pretty much go>That sucks, cry about it
>>729923897I feel like 99% of TCW can be summed up in 3 points:1. Boring politics episode. 2. Childish droid or one-off character episode. 3. Episode that uses something from the EU but rapes it entirely.
>>729908608Have we gotten any games like Force Unleashed for later generations?I gave a quick glance to the Jedi Survivor and Fallen Order games but they don't seem to be FU levels of>You're pretty much Star Wars Kratos roiding up on every Force ability and wrecking armies
>>729923456kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1_jZkUn22A
>>729923893Are you stupid? The statement has been pretty consistent: it's a toy ad for manchildren. Genndy makes most of his characters dry and tryhard, creating an illusion of "seriousness", which manchildren fail to catch on. And it was literally designed as a toy ad: it was aired during the ad segment on Cartoon Network in-between the actual cartoons, and it was stated that Hasbro commissioned it because the toy sales dropped off after TPM.
>>729923873It's the best one because it is self-contained. Lucas didn't expect to make a movie sequel so he wrapped it up all in the same film. That is why Star Wars, Alhamdulillah (ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّٰهِ) it shall never be called ANH or Episode IV, is the best Star Wars movie of them all.
>>729923872Kevin J. Anderson's slop was horrible.
>>729922883Trvke. Revenge conveys perfectly the history between the Jedi, and Obi-Wan in particular, and Grievous. The cartoon, by virtue of being a cartoon, actually makes him look silly.
>>729915584slightly echoing what the other fag said: Though I'd note that the Empire stories are better than the Republic ones.
>>729924323SW and Imperial Agent are amazing
>>729924239i liked all the kessel stuff
>>729924239Shit your taste is. Many dicks sucked you have.
>>729924391>Snip
>>729908608>you live long enough to see people unironically being nostalgic for ashoka shitStar Wars should have permanently stayed dead 2 decades ago.
>chosen ones(luke, anakin)>living black hole in the force(exile)>ancient chosen one (revan)>chosen dark side one (exar kun)Can I just have a single guy who became him through sheer tenacity and didn't fuck off to nowhere to do nothing for a thousand years or some shit waiting for the chosen one?
>>729924391>first cold blooded murderPretty sure Anakin murdered plenty of people before. And killing Dooku wasn't cold blooded: in the movie he hesitated and regretted it afterwards. Does the author know the definition of "cold-blooded"? God, that novel is shit. It horrifies me that you post it unironically.>Sniplmao
>>729924541Zayne Carrick became a hero and got a hot gf by putting in effort.
>>729923147TCW had neither substance or style. It's actually insane watching both back to back and Genndy's cartoon was the one that had things like Anakin's embracing the dark side to overwhelm Ventress with one of her own lightsabers as images of qui-gon, yoda, and obi-wan watch on in disappointment while the TCW was the one that made him go meet literal gods that just show him becoming vader
>>729924391desu I still don't see Anakin executing Count Dooku as cold blooded murder. How the fuck are they supposed to escape the Invisible Hand with an unconscious Obi-Wan, the Chancellor of the Republic, and a Sith Lord prisoner who can still use the Force?Anakin didn't have a choice other than killing Dooku. It's not like they are on a planet with support. They are alone on an enemy ship where escape is already going to be tough. Sorry, but you execute the Sith Lord under those circumstances. And if the Jedi Code says "sorry pal, you have to try", then the Jedi Code is retarded and the Jedi deserved to get btfo.
>>729923967Wait a minute...this was just an ad for the ROTS lego sets...
>>729921102Yeah some of the armors were cool.Starkiller in generally was a /fa/g
>>729924558The only "people" Anakin Skywalker murdered before Episode III were sandniggers and both the audience and Dooku wouldn't count them as people.Also Dooku didn't know about any of that so for all he knows, he's the first.
>>729924565Zayne was Shaggy if he were a Jedi and in the end his only real skill was fucking up.
>>729924360who is this semen demon
>>729922348Like 3/4 of those shots are garbage tho? The prequels are ugly as shit with mediocre cinematography.
>>729924661That's the edgelord version of the Jedi Padawan that the Sith Warrior class steals from the Jedi.
>>729924661a jedi padawan you corrupt into being your loving apprentice breeding material by killing everyone she ever loved i am seriousyou do that and can accomplish it through doing all of that to her
>>729924705Too bad evil Jaessa is a comically evil edgelord and light Jaessa can't be banged.Smh
>>729924705>>729924703holy shitt im gonna cum that's fucking awesome
>>729924748>comically evil edgelordit's adorable>light Jaessa can't be bangedand she is infinitely worse because she's also boring
>>729924753I got a boner when I made her murder her master. Who you can also taunt into turning to the Dark Side before she kills him.
>>729924569That scene is so fucking well done. The part where Ventress is stalking Anakin through the forest, picking off troopers one by one before that was so fucking good.
>>729924753>You kill her old master>You can snap her mom and dad's necks or have Baras torture them to death>You can corrupt some Jedi she knew through provoking them enough>You make her master turn to the dark side before executing him in front of herSW was based
>>729924569https://youtu.be/cT0H5qg8FTc>tfw you were 12 years old and saw this and thought this was the moment that Anakin became Vader
>>729924569Anakin also gets a neat metaphorical vision of becoming Vader in Genndy Wars. Unlike TCW where he is just literally shown himself becoming Vader and reacts by... becoming Vader and attacking Obi-Wan until his memory is wiped so the movies can happen.
>>729924702You are wrong and have no resemblance of taste. Prequels not only have better cinematography than the original Star Wars trilogy, but also better cinematography, composition, colors and lighting than most of the blockbusters - very few of which have this scale, mind you. Cameron's Avatar garbage doesn't compare, not even remotely.
>>729924569The last bit with the tribe murals showing the legend of the "invisible hand warrior" being a metaphor for the dark side granting you immense power but ultimately consuming you and destroying everything around was also very nice.Also gotta love how Aayla Secura is a massive jobber every time she's on screen just like in the movies.t. rewatched it last week
>>729924813>>729924790
>>729923331Ahsoka's great beyond that initial first movie.
>>729924856Were you retarded as a 12-year-old? This meant nothing, because in the next scene he is a bug eating quipping bro dude.
>my retarded childish cartoon is better than your retarded childish cartoon
>>729924941>Were you retarded as a 12-year-old?maybe
>>729924595He shouldn't.It's not right, it's not the jedi way.
>>729924916filoni ran her into the ground
>>729924963Yes.
>>729924941That bug eating joke was on disc 2. The Ventress fight is in the first half of disc 1. Disc 1 ends with the Grevious introduction. If you want to talk about tonal inconsistency, might I point you to a film called Revenge of the Sith, and another one called Return of the Jedi.
Is star wars just completely sanitized now? Was it always sanitized?
>>729925034I feel strongly that this is only in the movie to payoff with Mace Windu's extrajudicial execution of Palpatine later.
>>729924941>because in the next scene he is a bug eating quipping bro dude.erm that came a year or so later when Genndy's SW:TCW got a budget increase to let him do 10 minute episodes instead of 5 (lol lmao)
>>729909260The only time I've explicitly gone for an achievement is either because I was already close to 100% without trying, or the challenge behind said achievement sounds like fun. I'm currently working through a max difficulty run on the Dead Space remake and I'm gonna double it up by only using the cutter the whole game. So it has more & tougher enemies, permadeath, and I'm only using the cutter lol. I figure I'll try a handful of times and stop when it stops being enjoyable.
>>729925075yesnohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWIYb_5B3iU
>>729925075watch Andor and weep that this is the best we're ever gonna get
>>729924890I'm guess that you're not very media literate and your knowledge of cinema is pretty much exclusively popcorn films.
>>729925198season 1season 2 had that one dyke lecture that some rebel MAN would never be as good as her stupid dead jeet dyke clit buddy
>>729925190>woman on woman>reddit-tier le fbi open up editLiterally nothing.
>>729925271
This fucking franchise only has 2.5 good films and you faggots have kept it alive for 50 years
>>729925258That rant is a nothingburger and /ourguy/ Luthen mogs everyone else in the series.
>>729925074I don't care about "tonal inconsistencies". I like poking at retards who pretend like any of that shit in the toy ad cartoon had some grand narrative or thematic importance - it didn't. Not even within itself. Anakin didn't meaningfully change as a character even within this fucking toy ad. In fact, he took the opposite direction than the one you would think. As if that shit didn't even matter. Just some cool visuals that ultimately meant nothing - perfectly encapsulates those shorts, that are easily the single most overrated thing in this franchise.
>>729925075Episode 1 involves slavery to the point where the slaves have bombs in them to prevent them from acting up or trying to escape.Episode 2 has the torture and murder of Anakin's mother, the extermination of the Tusken Raider tribe, and the public execution of political figures by animals in a Roman coliseum >Episode 3 has everything in Episode 3>Episode 4 has the murder of Luke Skywalkers adoptive family and the destruction of a planet.>Episode 5 doesn't have anything particularly dark other than the Rebels being generally btfo >Episode 6 has... I guess Luke kinda chokes out some pig guards.
>>729925320>that are easily the single most overrated thing in this franchise.Nah that's the original movie
>>729925198>>729925258Trandor is giga slop that has nothing in common with Star Wars. And it is also extremely sanitized.>character goes to a brothel>everyone is fully clothed>no half-naked alien slavesYeah, okay, lmao.
Which species for each class?
>>729911153You don't like thug shaker vader?
>>729925391Human for everything except Sith Warrior in which case Sith Pureblood.
>>729924364The Jedi Academy trilogy was the first bit of EU I read. Shit like the nightmare fuel spiders that are the source of spice definitely stuck with me. I also like how the Maw Installation stayed decently relevant throughout a lot of the EU.Then I read the Heir to the Empire trilogy, and, to this day, I still insist that those books would have made for a fantastic sequel trilogy.
>>729925314Luthen is a retarded terrorist baby killing peace disturbing glowie
>>729924474This but unironically. Crazy that Rebels is unironically some fags childhood show.
>>729925364Nah, the original movie is excellent. Fun characters, fun story, great music, groundbreaking visuals and special effects, tight editing. It's one of the all-time great family adventure movies that defined cinema for the rest of its existence as a medium. And the original movie also is in no way overrated these days. Everyone keeps jerking off Empire Strikes Back or Revenge of the Sith.
>>729925320The movie Star Wars in 1977 was a toy ad.
>>729925482>Luthen is [BASED]Happy we can agree.
>>729925482...And that's a good thing!
>>729924595I feel like part of the problem was this cold execution. They've been no stranger to taking out enemies, but here Anakin could have just taken his arms and fully incapacitated him. If they were mid duel and he killed him with a maneuver then that would be different. But the fight is already over at this moment. And even if killing Dooku is better here, Anakin isn't doing it with the right heart. Windu or Obi Wan would finish him due to pure pragmatism. Anakan had anger lingering in him during this as he already had a grudge.
>>729925314The only decent thing in Andor is that it makes the ISB look cool rather than the typical bumbling incompetent space nazis we usually get as a result of a Stormtrooper bumping his head on a door in 1977.
>>729925551>He agrees with me>Some random on the holonet>But he knows about me and Imperials are montioring>Andor, you need to take him out
>>729922096I wish I had seen it instead of my work taking us to watch fucking minecraft
>>729925384My faggot friend actually recommended it to me today, was skeptical about it at first but almost wanted to give it a chance.There truly is not a single piece of modern star wars media that isn't completely pozzed sanitized dogshit.Literally the only thing left that I have hope for is that upcoming racers game but I already secretly know I'm setting myself up for disappointment.At the very least it does not have the name "EA" on it.
>>729925582He wouldn't kill me though. He'd take me in.
>>729925570they should've woni was so happy syril's autistic ass found a woman as autistic as he was>>729925428i jizzed when luke went super saiyanthe nu republic winning because leia was a vader's daughter and thrawn was stupid enough to rely on a race of slaves for security will never not be retarded
>>729925632>He wants to work with me>I don't trust others who will just throw people away without principal>And extraction would take up too many resources>Take him out
i recently rewatched episode 3 and i didnt remember anakin being such a fucking retard. like this dude is trying to save his pregnant wife but he puts her through intense psychological suffering by letting her know he betrayed the galaxy and murdered kids, and then he chokes her. nigger shoulda heemed the emperor after he told him "ackshually that immortality thing might have been bs" but instead he plays along with the whole murder everybody plan without thinking twice about it.serious question is this just shitty writing, or does it make sense?
>>729925675Luthen has a soft-spot for outcasts and loners with nowhere else to turn. Anon neeting his life away would be the perfect addition
>>729925501Anon I know that you're also >>729924890 how the fuck can you think the prequels look anywhere CLOSE to as good as the originals. Are you just that impressed with visual clutter?
>>729925675I just show him an oldfag shitpost and I'm in his club. Ezpz.
>>729925501>Everyone keeps jerking off Empire Strikes BackAnd rightfully so.
>>729911473From a pure turn your brain off action movie its ok but my god>Kirk abandoned on ice planet>Just happens to be near Old Spock>A star exploding threatens the entire galaxy somehow>Instead of evacuating Romulus, something that seems to be the go to in these situations since TNG they try some bullshit experimental crap>Spock is able to witness Vulcan explode from said random ice planetHe has no concept of scale in space and has likely never seen an episode of star trek in his life. I legit thought I was lucid dreaming when I saw this sequence in theater with how retarded it is.
>>729925753>Soft spot? He mistakes my preying on their lack of support for weakness and an opening>He's probably an imperial spy>take him out
>>729925772>He has records of our activity?>Take him out and burn down his domicile>No record of our existence must survive, including him
>>729925743It's called a self-fulfilling prophecy. Try studying mythology. Start with the Greeks. You are looking at it wrong from an overly rational, anal, "ughhhhhm, muh plothole" nerd cinemasins nitpicking perspective.
>>729925743After everything he sacrificed for her, she betrays him? Insolent slut>>729925787>He has no concept of scale in space That's every fucking sci-fi writer
>>729925789>He mistakes my preying on their lack of support for weakness and an openingThat's how he rationalizes it to himself. We all know the truth however.
>there are zoomers that have never seen the prequel trilogy reacting to the prequel trilogy for the first time on youtube>there are dozens of them>and reaction mashup channels are making mashups of their reactions to the prequel trilogy>and I am watching them
>>729925789>>729925830Luthen is just a 4chan oldfag. One epicfailguy meme from me and he'll go "ok he's clean"ezpz
>>729925783Not really. It's boring and feels drawn out. The only thing it has is the "I am your father" twist. It has too much bloat. Star Wars is a much better movie otherwise. Nothing in Empire comes close to the trench run sequence.
>>729925568Palpatine is like a pseudo-father figure at this point to him, he says jump and anakin asks how high.
>>729925743Anakin never told her shit. Obi-Wan is the one who told her all of the immoral things Anakin had done.There was also a cut subplot where Palpatine was manipulating Anakin into fearing that Obi-Wan was moving in on his woman. Which is why there is the scene where they are in Padme's apartment and Anakin says "Obi-Wan has been here, hasn't he?!" and why he loses his shit when he sees Obi-Wan with his hands on hips big dick power stance coming out of Padme's ship on Mustafar.
>>729925885>An imperial officer meme gif?>He supports the empire or at least identifies iwth their people and he knows of my existence>Take him out
>>729925887
>>729925928Let me guess anon, you're also a big MCU fan?
>>729925926>He has records that far back?>He would compromise me if interrogated>Take him out
>>729908754SciFi is garbage
>>729925958>take him out>meaning he doesn't do it himself>meaning his sends Andor instead>meaning I convince him I'm an oldfag with my old shitpostsezpz
>>729925926>efg
>>729925743You stupid.Watch movie again.
>>729925763Originals look great (other than Return of the Jedi, which mostly looks like a TV-movie), but the prequels look even better. Prequels are far more imaginative and creative, and the composition and lighting work is far more artful. Originals are just>desert planet>forest planet>ice planet
>>729908754GEORGE PLEASE I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN THOSE WORDS GEORGIE YOU KNOW I LOVE YA PLEASE TAKE ME BACK GEORGIE
>>729926023>he doesn't know Andor is a touches grass gets laid all the time real lifer normie
Examining the establishing shots of Chandrila and Ghorman, we see they're Earth-like worlds but we have little indication of the culture of the society. Now compare to the establishing shots of Theed and Otoh Gunga. They're otherworldly and we instantly grasp the culture. Even when we get to ground-level on the worlds in Andor it's hard to gain real insight into their cultures. We learn all about Chandrilan arranged marriage customs, and the people on Ghorman sound French and applaud weird, but can we deeply feel the unique soul of the peoples? I'm sure the production designers made an effort to distinguish Chandrila from Ghorman architecturally, but right at this moment I cannot visualize the differences for the life of me. I don't think Ghorman strongly *feels* like anything apart from Chandrila. It doesn't matter how high-quality the sets look if there isn't a keen aesthetic and anthropological vision like Lucas's to back them up. They look impressive in the moment but they easily fall out of memory. It's not something you can buy. Lucas was inimitably good at this. The visual aesthetics of Naboo doesn't just shout wealth. It communicates artistic and intellectual refinement, and harmony with the natural world. It is perfectly reflective of Padme's inner qualities. Some ignorant people say Naboo is "just Italy", since it was filmed in Italy. It's clearly not. If this was Andor, Naboo people would speak some gibberish Italian, wear some Italian clothes and eat Pizza. Because that's what space-France Ghorman in Andor was like: speak gibberish French, wear French beanies and trench coats, eat croissants and drink coffee in the street-cafes, and they make fashion clothes. And they are also literally French resistance during WW2, in case you didn't get!
Watching Rogue One after Andor really highlights how horrifically underwritten every lead is. Rogue One is the ultimate detector of brainlets who think spectacle and a tragic ending is good writing.
>>729924748technically you 'can' romance her in the later expansion, but it leads nowhere and it requires you to miss out on better options.It's absolutely not worth it.
>>729925959https://youtu.be/oFFnEtDAWZ8What if I told you watching this video was the first time in 15 years that I rewatched ROTS?Quite an experience, huh?
Tony Gilroy drops Santiago Calatrava architecture into the Coruscant landscape even though it's completely at odds with the aesthetic of the planet. Whereas Lucas organically incorporated Calatrava-inspired architecture into the design of Utapau, where it reflects the unique qualities of the world.What Gilroy does here doesn't even require any vision. He's just photographing the work of one of the most well-known living architects and jarringly inserting it into an environment others before him had to actually design.He's not only unable to conceptualize environments that rise anywhere close to the standard set by Lucas, he actively degrades the few environments he inherits, because he doesn't understand what goes into it.It feels like the prequel Coruscant exists as one of those distant backgrounds in a video game that you can never travel to.
>>729925928Just no man.You are obviously way too biased and are suffocating from smelling your own farts.It's literally just public npc opinions that you're spouting.
>>729926131that is every other companion thoughthe expansions are horrible
This is true even for the locations that are set directly in the midst of the cityscape. Even given the opportunity for window views, Gilroy's tendency is to fog or obscure the alien cityscape where Lucas always opts for expansive fantasy vistas.That Gilroy has to set these scenes on Coruscant seems like an inconvenience to him that he tries to find ways to work around. I don't know what else people would expect. What do you think it means when he says he never liked Star Wars? You think he hadn't seen it? It isn't his thing.Why do the hallways of the Senate Building in Andor suddenly look like the interiors on Kamino? At most you'd expect the intrusion of Imperial motifs. The answer is that Gilroy is drawing on the aesthetic of the new exterior architecture, but the design language is confused.You can see the palette of the Senate chamber itself seems to have been adjusted to match. It has a strangely bright, aquatic feel to it now. I'm not sure why the transition to Empire transformed the capitol into King Triton's court.
>>729921301I wonder how cool Star Wars could have been if Disney gave creative control to Tartakovsky as long as they had a seperate guy exclusively to write endings because goddamn Tartakovsky cannot make good endings
Does Disney steal the ghorman massacre and make it lame?
Star Wars is Call of Duty now.
These /tv/ copypastas are boring
>>729926236fried cock is the best cock>>729926242they killed my homie syril
>>729926223>>729926149GPT
Blandor: 4m40s scene. Cassian dumps a bunch of exposition about the Death Star that we already know and won't pay off in this show's narrative. They argue for 2 minutes about Luthen's trustworthiness. Bail Organa monologues about all the reasons Luthen is untrustworthy. Nothing of strong narrative interest or importance is happening in this scene! The dialogue isn't particularly scintillating, and the character dynamics have to do with issues we've litigated a gazillion times already. Why are we burning time like this in the last episode?The Phantom Menace: 3m30s scene. We establish the slave transmitters, the lack of Republic presence, explain podracing, Jedi reflexes, Qui-Gon reveals he's a Jedi, his death is foreshadowed, Anakin reveals his dream to be a Jedi, Qui-Gon's suspicions become apparent, and we set up the gambling plan.It is very difficult to do all this exposition and character development in a 3m30s scene in a way that seems natural and can also hold an audience's interest. Lucas is an extremely skilled screenwriter in this regard. He knows exactly what he intends to do in every scene. People focus a lot on what they perceive to be clunky dialogue and miss how superhumanly keyed in Lucas has to be on the extremely complex mix of themes, character, plot, and exposition that has to happen at a very rapid pace in almost every scene. I think the cleverest trick in this scene is the way we transition from the talk about slave transmitters and anti-slavery laws directly to podracing--Anakin is visibly embarrassed by the slave talk and decides to change the subject to something more flattering.
>>729924595I agree, he made the right choice. He was too damgerous to be left alive
One is a boilerplate flowery political speech which boils down to "Lies are bad." The other is still being talked about 20 years later because it features two incredibly original characters (Jar Jar and Palpatine) delivering immortal lines that only one man could write.Are you really telling me that when we let truth go by the wayside, we cede the narrative to whichever person yells the loudest? Wow, I've never heard it put quite that way before. These writers are incredible...This is literally just regurgitating language and rhetoric that you'd have to be a zombie not to have absorbed in some fashion over the past 10 years. Then they put it in the Star Wars show so you'd clap. It's just not original! There should be more than this.And to be clear, the AOTC scene includes basic lines like: "I love democracy. I love the Republic." Yet everyone can hear these lines in their head! That's proof of how well-constructed the scene is on a *cinematic* basis. Neither scene is great literature, but one thinks it is! These could be perfectly acceptable lines for the purpose of supporting a cinematic narrative, but everyone involved obviously believes this writing is itself the accomplishment. But here I can say objectively, it is neither saying anything new nor saying it in an innovative way.So where am I left with this speech as the centerpiece and, really, only matter of real interest in the episode? If I'm not impressed by the literary qualities of the writing, then I have little else to cling onto aside from how terribly Important it all is.
>Andor bad
Imagine actually sitting down, thinking about your new identity, and then picking the name "Ben"
>>729926472It truly is. Andorfags are too high on their own farts, though.
>>729926491>kept your last name
>>729926472You have no self-awareness.
>>729926509No one gave a shit about the rebellion until Andor actually made it something believable. Until then it was hurr we gud empire bad.
>>729926557I never wanted to see the Rebellion crushed by the Empire more than when watching Andor t b h
>>729926557>>729926589I smiled when his stupid whore of a girlfriend was broken like a toothpicklove the way they drag her twitching ass out of her rape chamber
>>729925639Well, it's not solely due to Leia being Vader's daughter. The Empire had been lying to the Nohgri about restoring their planet and taking advantage of the extreme loyalty the Nohgri had to the Empire since they thought the restoration droids were actually helping. I feel there are a number of characters that could have been used to show that the Empire had betrayed the Nohgri, and Leia was chosen due to a large part of her early EU character arc involving her coming to grips with being the daughter of Vader. I do agree that Thrawn was dumb to not have some redundancies in his personal security efforts, seeing as how he was aware of the deception after Vader handed over command of the Nohgri to him.
>>729926589>>729926626Just say you're gay for Krennic. There'd be more dignity in it.
>>729926557This is a lying statement made by a mouse shill or underage.
>>729926626I'm gonna watch Andor now
>>729926694https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=302dYErte08she deserved so much worse
>>729926626It's truly a shame that they didn't just kill her. For all its brutality, it's also such a hippie dippie "freedom always wins in the end, take that u mean fascist" show.
>>729926509>just believe in yourselfAnd your friends. The moral of the OT is relying on your friends and family gives you strength and vice versa.
Lucas' SW and Blandor are completely incompatible. Among the sacrifices that are on Luke's shoulders now are all the people Luthen supposedly had to murder to make Yavin possible. But in ANH Yavin represents life & friendship & loyalty, contra the Death Star's cynical utilitarianism. This goes beyond whether the show is good or bad. If you concede that Andor is operating outside of the idealistic fairy tale context of the films, it makes no sense to integrate one with the other. They're not just different stylistically, they express different worldviews. It's not that every single Rebel was necessarily a nice guy that never did anything wrong. I'm saying I don't think the foundation of the Rebel Alliance should be so cynical. War is messy. Stabbing your comrades in the back is depravity that facilitates the failure of revolutions, not success. Blandor doesn't do a good job exploring the actual moral quandaries at the core of any real rebellion. Instead it contrives a bunch of situations where characters like Luthen are forced by the logic of the plot to commit perverse acts designed to shock the viewer.
>>729919924>s I've heard about it were about him force pulling a star destroyer out of the sky.It was always a stupid complaint too. For starters it was already coming down(he only yanks it down freely in the og reveal trailer) and the first damn rule of the Force Yoda taught Luke is that size doesn't matter to the Force. THere's a certain kind of SW that gets pissy anytime the Force is used in a way that surpasses anything portrayed in the movies.
>>729926787I know, right?It would've been really sexy if they just blaster shot her in the back of the head at the end of season 1 when she was all used up and threw her out like the piece of garbage she was.But I would've settled for them capturing her in season 2 when she tried getting revenge on that one guy, subjucted to the torture again, and only shown once more for the last time twitching in some cell with ripped up clothes
Andor fans are perplexed that Han Solo would receive a medal for returning to help his friend, when we now know that heroes like Luthen did all the real work that allowed the Rebellion to succeed.For all the claims that Andor is more grown-up and realistic than the original Star Wars films, it has to be pointed out that defeating the regime in major engagements is closer to how real rebellions are won than killing your bravest and most loyal allies.These situations where characters have to coldly kill their own guys or the rebellion is doomed are highly contrived for dramatic purposes. That's not how things actually work. It isn't depicting anything meaningfully real. It is less accurate than the pew-pew comic book version.Yes, the theme of Andor is that rebellions depend on people being willing to do dirty work like this. But that isn't even true. Successful rebellions don't require the murder of loyal informants. It's just attributing contemptible depravity to the Rebel Alliance for no reason.
>>729926160One indicator that they were fucking one with the old companions and practically mocked you for 'going back to romance them' was when you could unironically start a romance with Khem Val.If you didn't pick Lana as your dance partner, then you fucked up. I believe she's still one of the few companions that you can't kill or get rid of yet
What if Star War but anime
>>729926934>shojo anakin
>>729926771I couldn't find the original scene on youtube, but I did find out she survives and does the same to him in season 2I will no longer be watching Andor, thank you for linking this and saving me hours
>>729926934why are they asian
>>729926928I remember saving Zaash because I wanted to fuck Zaash and thought I could give her her old (young) hot body back eventually
>>729926934It exists as a manga and haters will disagree, but it is gud
I just want good SW games again bros...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mzakYqhjIc
>>729926934>tales of the jediwhat nothing retard slop>>729926928i can see whykhem was easily the most loyal and cutest of your companions
>>729926968>shitting on Obata
>>729927006Whatever happened to that one retarded wuxia offical Chinese shit people shat on for being Chinkwank?
>>729926924Andor is about doing what must be done in spite of any recognition of having done so. If your ultimate goal is only doing something because you'll get credit for it, then you've lost before you even started. But because this modern era of media demands that X character does something then he must see Y and Z happen, then no true art can be done.
>>729927023Death Note was two decades ago, Anon. You have to let it go. You have to let all this go.
>>729927148No, I can't! I WONT!
>>729927148>Let goanon this is a Star Wars thread
>>729927207Exactly. We couldn't let go of Star Wars and now look what's happened to it
>>729927207One could argue the main message of Star Wars is "letting go"
I thought the main message of Star Wars was that it was about family?
>>729927398If Luke Skywalker "let go" of his familial connection to Darth Vader and killed him like the Jedi wanted, the galaxy would have been doomed.
>>729927460No one's ever really gone
>>729924002Why are you so vitriolic? You're either too young to miss the phenomena or were too third world to have star wars lego, figures and vidya
I thought the main theme was that love conquers all.
>>729927469https://youtu.be/CxlWm9TZYvYhttps://youtu.be/o2we_B6hDrYhttps://youtu.be/K3eQpaD2fiQ
>>729924856Sith vs Sith matches are always my favorite in any era. There's something incredibly engaging about them even more than usual Jedi duals. I think it's because when the Sith fight there's no real discipline or honor, just a raw contest of power.Reminder Sheev only uses a lightsaber to make fights last longer and have more fun.
the jedi weren't absolutely right about everythingit's why they fell
>>729925352RotJ has all the Jabba scenes, like when the Twi'lek dancer is eaten by the Rancor. Jabba also eating the frog thing right after she dies always seemed grotesquely repulsive, which was great design. You are right that Empire, even though it's considered the "dark film," doesn't really have much in the way of grim scenery.
>>729927134>But because this modern era of media demands that X character does something then he must see Y and Z happen, then no true art can be done.Ain't that a bitch...
>>729927702This is Lucas' self-reported favorite lightsaber duelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCUjlDgNl-c
>>729927641Oh that was just George cribbing a bit of Buddhist thought into the belief structures of the Jedi.
>>729927641https://youtu.be/nlYKedsYe50>AI slop mogs all you've knownHow do you react to this?
>>729927001iirc if you did decide to save zash, then khem still escapes and fucking tries to kill your assthough i'm sure like 99.99% of people kept Khem that they decided to memory hole that whole plotline. Hell, even the original game didn't expect you to pick Zash because the dialogue outside of the ship reverts back to his VO.>t. picked zash for the memes on his altThe post kotet story mission flashpoint was an attempt to kill off npcs that were loose ends from the original story
>>729927763Like how the Matrix did it?
>>729927747I like the one where Savage keeps running into Dooku's lightning
>>729912747You can almost feel how much Mike wants to avoid talking about Star Wars, and when he does trying to pretend he wasn't a big reason why the ST ultimately sucked. His criticism of the PT aged like milk, and people can now tell it was mostly motivated by, "Why don't I think it as good as my beloved Star Trek?!" So now he mostly tries to run tepid interference for Disney slop, even though it makes the PT look like an award winning production of a Shakespeare play in comparison. He's going to truly be remembered as a hack, and you can tell it eats him up inside, because he thought he was such a clever critic.
>>729926928People were asking to romance Khem and they got it and I understand them. Even though I'm not a monsterfucker Khem is great.
>>729927641>hilariously bad advice that just drove anakin straight into palpatine's grasp>telling someone to trust their own skill and intuition instead of relying on equipment that already failed once (red leader's botched run)>telling someone to stop being an angry piece of shit and embrace the love of family
>>729927828lightning fingies are too op
>>729926928fucking done*
>>729927876he's, like, the only good inquisitor companion
>>729927814Maybe if you're blind.Shit looks fake and uncanny as shit, didn't even bother finish watching it.Give it another 5 years.
>>729927747It's a fun fight. I love how the moment Sheev has had enough he just puts the sabers away and mercs Maul instantly.
Do you guys think Palpatine ever used Force Choke on his sphincter so he wouldn't shit himself?
>>729925352>>729927721The AT-AT stomped luke's copilot.
>>729927889Yoda's advice was good, it was Anakin's lust for control that drove him to be proactive about beating death itself instead of just accepting that it's a natural part of life. Palpatine's advice to Anakin was both impractical AND a lie, but it was what Anakin wanted to hear. The fault lies with Anakin, as it always has
>>729928024I simply can't enjoy it knowing that Maul died on Naboo and that his return was the start of lightsabers never killing anyone.
>>729928024he was improving through the fight tooif he kept it up, he would've been at a disadvantage
>>729927925They are MOST unnatural
>>729928073There's a strong difference between Maul being way too angry to die and forcing himself through a miserable existence to get revenge one day, which was actually in an EU what if, and just getting up after getting stabbed by a lightsaber that the retarded negress donut steel does TWICEONCE AS A FUCKING INFANT
>>729927995It's not about the visuals, but the dialogue.
>>729912269That whole era is so funny in hindsight. They really didn't know just how bad it could get.
>>729928113kekout of all things with that thesis shit, it's the goddamn lightning fingies i laugh at most>>729928171i have to watch this and laugh about how good we unironically had it
>>729927541Star wars was always onions shit
>>729928070>what's that bro? you're afraid your wife is gonna die just like your mother did a couple years ago? just let go of your fear bro. everyone's gonna die someday bro.It literally flies in the face of everything Lucas tried to convey with the OT and shows just how flawed the Jedi were when they fell
>>729908608according to who?
Ok star wars geeks, why did Luke in return of the jedi throw a fucking rock at the rancor door button instead of using the force?It's my biggest gripe with the movie.
a-at least we still have the games ri- *COUGH* *COUGH* *HACK*
>>729928246anon, i....
>>729928198Now that the thread is wrapping up, why don't you share with us some of your thesis on TToDPtW?
>>729928171I hate Gen X almost as much I hate the boomers. Nothing brings me joy like knowing all the "George Lucas Raped Our Childhood" fags had to watch their beloved Luke Skywalker get bent over on screen and then that lunatic Mark Hamill had to smile and market it.
>>729928225He didn't want to reveal he had overt force powers too soon, at most Jabba thought he could use the mind trick ability.
>>729928202To give the slightest grace to the green muppet that drove the Jedi into the ground, he didn't know about Anakin's mother and assumed Anakin was having dreams about Obi-Wan dying.
Who should've been the Sith Emperor in place of Vitiate?My idea was a survivor of the original purge of Korriban. The most respected, feared, and powerful Sith alive. The problem? He's lived for so long and become such an embodiment of the Force he is no longer completely conscious in the present moment, leaving the Dark Council to rule in his stead. When he reaches points of clarity, conflicts across Sith space cease and the Sith Empire immediately becomes a devastating force to be reckoned with.Like Nihilus but less a blackhole of the force and a being extremely close to being one with it without fully losing their physical form. A play on the Jedi philosophy ironically by one of their enemies.And to introduce some grayness, he'd lean into the whole genocide that happened on Korriban. It being the one thing he can still remember clearly after all the centuries. His people dying from being cut off from the force because the Jedi didn't understand them. The infighting that likely came after. That, after everything, only he remains and can remember what it was like to truly be Sith.Battle dialogue about how he can't ever forgive the Jedi for what they've done. How, if you convinced some Sith to betray him, his brethren could stoop so low. Confusion as to who some apprentices he can barely remember not being there to help him. Stuff like that.His dying words, from being killed or maybe even convinced to give up finally:"Forgive me... I could only save myself in the end.""...Korriban. Home. At last."
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>>729928225He was panicked in a life-or-death situation. It helped show that while he had grown as a Jedi, he was still a novice at best
>>729912269>>PT hate is at its peakIt was tremendously popular with the younger generations thougheverbeit.
>>729928225>he doesn't knowhttps://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Bidlo_Kwerve/Legends
>>729928310Doesn't he Force Choke the Gamorreans as soon as he enters Jabba's palace?
>>729928290>smileAnon he was visibly crying for a lot of it
