>ARC Raiders launched in late October, and as we’re about to tick over into January, just three days ago, it hit 439,000 concurrent players on Steam. That compares to its all-time peak in mid-November of 481,000. Doing the math, that is 91% player retention. That is simply phenomenal.
>>729915590It's not player retention, it's newfags who just bought the game filling in for people who burn out and quit. It's not the same people playing who were 2 months ago.
Im genuinely surprised the game is not accused of botting every day like BG3 is.
>Arc raiders still can't get even half of Counter Strike players daily>BF6 managed to get 75%lmao. Arc Raiders in a few months when it is dead like Tarkov, Tust, DayZ, etc.
>>729915947Are you talking about the BG3 schizo? That dude just lies and copes over the game 24/7
>we have helldivers 2 at home
>>729915590nobody cares you retarded shill
>>729915947Arc Raiders has some AI generation going on in it IIRC while BG3 is basically the refutation to the get woke go broke meme. It's all agenda baby
>>729915590would play it but it's unpiratable and I can't afford a copy, so whatever
>>729915820>FOTM >HAHA LOOK AT STEAM CHARTS>DEAD IN TWO WEEKS>actually steam charts and numbers dont mean anything
>>729915947well yeah people would need to make threads on it in order to generate discussion. but the game is just too shit.
>>729916801it's funny how people say this when the truth is that owners are too busy playing the game to complain, and the game doesn't have much for dramabait fags to obsess over 24/7.
>>729916681The anon you're talking to is right and your last greentext is also right. The problem is people with sub zero IQ merge with bots to bumping the threads and "influencers" also take the shit and use it for easy engagement.
maybe its fun?
>>729917030/v/ does not understand this statement
>>729917030Get out shitter
>>729917003>>729915820If it is so easy to get new players for two months straight, why don't other video games do this?
>>729916986uh huh. surely the reason nobody's talking about the game is because they like the game so much.
>>729917425You can steal the fruit in most supermarkets. Will you?
>>729917440uh yeah, they don't have almost half a million concurrent players all the time by accident. do you not comprehend that the people playing it constantly and never complaining... enjoy it?
>>729917030It doesn't look very fun. There's a couple tiers of loot you can get that give flat upgrades to weapons you use and once you get a decent amount of high tier shit, there's nothing you want to loot. I can understand games like fortnite having high retention because fortnite is mainly an engine to play other game modes and there's a drip feed of content and marvel skins and gay dances, but I really don't see how anyone gets more than a few hours out of this.
The Bungulator
>>729917527people that enjoy something tend to talk about it too :)
>>729915590how does this affect me
>>729917574I get this is a complex idea for autistic people, but ARC Raiders is a social game. Not only does it have updates and resets where progress is removed so you have things to grind again, but once you have everything you can get joy from playing and helping newer players. Find an anvil blueprint? A new player might search for one for weeks, you can get the joy of jolly cooperation by helping a new player and spending a run of the game with them.
>>729917635they talk about it in game, because it has voice chat, and in places not known as shitholes where people don't play games and only complain.
>>729917497Nice deflection. You're coping because Arc is a smashing success when you and other dregs on /v/ said it would flop and die in a month. Now you're coping.
>>729915590Arc is dogshit extractionslop, bf6 is fun multiplayer kino. It only has 1 good map but 1 is more than 0 so battlefield wins.
>>729915590Its because arc is something fresh and fun instead of generic military shooter sequel #10
Arc Raiders has open voice commsYou can call people faggot amongst various other thingsThis fact alone is carrying the game
>>729917810>bf6 is fun multiplayer kino>It only has 1 good map but 1 is more than 0 so battlefield wins.Absolute state of battlebubs
When DMZ is relaunched this game is DONE
>>729917990>fresh and funIsn't it just pubg again?
>>729918252Just like Tarkov will kill Arc raiders?
>>729918293pubg is a sweaty game where people shoot on site, arc raiders is a fun game where in solo queue you will go hours between getting shot at by a person. it's the fun of dark souls/elden ring summon signs co-op to overcome challenges together, but seamless without needing to actually summon individuals directly and with a little more tension because rarely you will get those pvp shootouts instead of a friendly.
>>729915820/thread
>>729915590Looking very organic.
>>729917030It's peak reddit game where your not allowed to kill each other
Arc Niggers might as well be a battle royal with the infinite number of players spawning in these small ass maps.
>>729918806you see newfag, for normal people they go to sleep at night and are awake during the day.
>>729918806>Retard discovers peak player times
>>729915947>there are actually retards retarded enough to fall for some schizo spamming the same 3 posts a billion timesAmazing.
>>729915590I tried to enjoy this game but the loop of looting crates and watching the same crowbar animation thousands of times really gets old. I also couldn't make myself care about dying or not, whenever I got killed by a squad my reaction was always just a lukewarm "oh nooo"
>>729915590don't care not buying a game that were lead to other players psychologically abusing me for existingput it on sale more and i'll buy it simple as>>729915590
>>729920025kek look at the poorfag cope>I...I totally don't want this!!>b-but if it was on a bigger sale I would pay for it...
Do you niggers just talk about charts instead of talking about why games are good/bad
>>729920104a lot of these indians don't have machines that can run games so charts are all they can base their ragebait on
>>729920025More likely to get verbally abused after you gun some faggot down than anything.
>>729920090cope
>>729918031End game is glitching into the ceiling in Stella and whispering nigger like the Ghost of Montis
It's weird. I do think the core of the game is fun, but it's also a fucking mess and its design is inherently terrible.I don't really understand what is keeping people playing when the incentive to use any gear that isn't grey or a couple of the green weapons does not exist whatsoever.
>>729915820so its sold like 10 milly on steam alone? poggers dude totally got'em
>>729920314If they removed late spawning and it was just 20 people per match that dwindles down it would make a lot more sense. Killing noobs in the first 10min is an absolute waste because a new team will just take their place. Grey weapons should deteriorate faster than epics not slower. Only single shot weapons should have headshot multipliers. Remove freeload outs entirely (this will never happen but should).
>>729918820You can though and the redditors seethe constantly over it
>>729921054/v/ repeats that as a strawman all day long but it's not true at all
>>729916319Tarkov devs viewbot the fuck out of their streamers
>>729917635The key word is people. Fortnite has a fuckton of players too, presumably, but it doesn't get discussed here because the things that play it are uber normalfags that barely qualify as people. Same shit with Arc Raiders.
>>729921373>Tarkov devs viewbot the fuck out of their streamersYeah no kidding. Even right now they're viewbotting the hell out of it. There was a week where they stopped but since launch its been nearly non-stop viewbotting on twitch despite having less than 100k players.
>>729920285Why are you flexing $2000 as if thats any sum of money
>>729921589Indians unironically think it is a lot
>>729915590I mean this is actually impressive, no?Even more for a multiplayer extraction shooter...
seems to me like battlefield 6 is winning. their servers are less saturated
>>729920715>Remove freeload outs entirelyBoo, fuck you faggot
>>729921589i'm not, he said i'm poor and that's the steam wallet cap
>>729918031Dont you get banned for that
>>729915590How do you avoid anxiety playing in solo? Watching my back all the time is too stressful. I have no problems playing with a team.
>>729925115have you really played this game? solo has insanely low aggression, you should be going hours between getting shot at especially if you just say "friendly" as soon as you're aware someone else is around you. teams has tons of firefights, solo doesn't at all.
>>729915590Who cares about the latest slop of the month
>>729915590aren't both games made by current and former DICE employees? damn
>>729925178That's not how my solo games go. Every game everyone shoots on sight. It's basically DM. If I don't shoot first they shoot first.
>>729925379I'm going to guess you mostly play in teams and shoot aggressively? you get queued based on how you play, and it sounds like you're not in the queues with any of the other anxiety-fueled players.
>>729915820I started somewhat late in early December and took the opportunity to do the expedition while I didn't have much anyway. I am currently stocking up on blueprints again. After that I don't really know what to do. I hope they steadily bring good content that is more than just a map mutator. I'd love a map where you start on top of the huge arc in the background of blue gate and work your way inside.
>>729915820>Its just new people buying the game stupid nigger! ha!Isn't that a good thing? What a retard lmfao.
>>729925379Devs confirmed that aggression based match making is a thing in some shape or form. I am very passive and have a hostile encounter maybe once every 10 matches.
>>729925630shitposters don't think long term, they just hear something positive and think "oh no I need to come up with a negative spin instantly because if I'm never happy nobody is allowed to be!". Just unironic doomposting all day long.
>>729917425>why don't other video games do this?look into how much $$$ arc raiders has put into streamer incentives and other mass marketing drivesit's called a "revolving door" operation - it does not 'retain' so much as it 'replenishes' exactly as that anon said with old being replaced by the newthe same thing happened with overwatch and league of legends to a similar extent, just on a much larger scale with constantly being thrust into people's awareness
>>729925914>the same thing happened with overwatch and league of legends to a similar extentthe difference is that Arc Raiders is a paid game that is impossible to pirate, so having a revolving door that maintains nearly half a million active players at all times is fucking billions of dollars.
>>729925990>fucking billions of dollars.a very average amount of money for any megacorp-funded game to throw around, really>Embark Studios is primarily funded and fully owned by the major South Korean publisher Nexon>ARC Raiders is both developed and published by Embark Studios, a Swedish studio
>>729915590that's nice for them. me and my group of friends quit because of rats though. they just ruin the mood and it's not fun for anyone involved.
>>729926071it's hilarious to try to diminish their success as if billions of dollars stop being a good thing. Sony would sacrifice a million children into woodchippers for a project like Concord to have the success Arc Raiders had instead of what it got.
>>729926143>diminish their successexplanation is not diminishment, i'm not particularly involved in any love or disdain for arc raiders in particularthey just have A Lot Of Money To Work With due to being (completely) owned by Nexon, a financial giga-giant of the eastern economyyou can't really view them through the same financial lens as a simple upstart developer
>everybody is totally playing this game bro>no threads>no twitter posts>no youtube videos>no adsyea. real organic.
>>729926071>Embark Studios is primarily funded and fully owned by the major South Korean publisher NexonIt's funny because they do break down how much they actually fund Embark (or don't) and other associated info in the financial reports Nexon puts out, which was focused a lot on by the Finals community to see how much of a future the game had. You have no clue how far off from the truth you are.
>>729926280I gotta say, for many games I visit /v/.But with Arc I don't really know what there is to talk about other than what I would like to see in the game. But I do that already with my friends that I play the game with.
>>729926451i'd believe you if you had an actual concrete proof of their *marketing* analytics - the expenditures of their advertisement and streamer incentives, which have been magnitudes more than the game production itself and not necessarily something the studio (embark) would need to pay out of their own pocket at all
Is it true that the more aggressive you are to other players, the more likely you are to be placed in lobbies with other PVPers? I've been playing for around 30 hours solo, and I've only been attacked maybe 5 times. I have downed 3 players and one was by complete accident. I took out a Matriarch with a bunch of randos and nobody even thought of backstabbing me.
>>729926689They confirmed this in an interview yesterday or so, after the art director(?) already said that they do back in December.
>>729926689>>729926765>herbivore dads get packaged into the same peaceful meadowsgaming is healing...
>>729915590Arc Raiders is the first Game that genuinely feels astroturfed for me. It is the same as many others and kinda bland overall. It has nothing striking but everyone started to talk about it one day in droves before Even gameplay was available. And those retención numbers are too flat, like botted accs.
>>729915947>Im genuinely surprised the game is not accused of botting every day like BG3 is.Well, everyone knows Nexon is gonna bot, so it's kinda understood this is a fact. Arc raiders is an odd game, its literally the third most populated game on steam, but people havent heard of it. If it were such a monumental and categorical success, dont you think people would be talking about it more? By all metrics, this should be a literal cultural phenomenon... but it isnt. Similarly, their other game, The Finals is dead for all actual intents and purposes but continues to break the all important 10,000 daily peak. Nexon is absolutely botting. but i think it's kinda understood by most players and its ignored
>>729921373>>729921545imagine thinking Nexon doesnt do the same...
>>729915590I am one of the people that has quitI will be back the nanosecond they nerf trigger grenades
>>729928108nexon cuts the middleman and just offers $$$$ to bigname streamers that are already invested in their own viewbots(unrelated) moonmoon was talking the other day how much cash these people throw at streamers to just Play a Game for a few hours - something like six figures just to shill something for a few days in total
>>729927574>Arc Raiders is the first Game that genuinely feels astroturfed for me. It is the same as many others and kinda bland overall. It has nothing striking but everyone started to talk about it one day in droves before Even gameplay was available. And those retención numbers are too flat, like botted accs.Nexon is a multi-billion dollar company. The Finals is dead, play it, you get matched with bots, but they consistently hit that magical 10k+ peak players daily. Arc is absolutely being botted. I know no-one who owns the game, except myself and i got it because I bought an nvidia card right before the ram price spike. I tried it and it was "meh". Felt very similar to Once Human. Its a 10k-50k player pop game, and outside of twitch and steam stats, no one knows about it. So idk, it feels very sus. Valve needs to either get this pop botting under control, or they should just kill the pop stats entirely. At this point, I feel like the steam numbers kill good and honest games faster than they deserve, as players are obsessed with pop counts. 5k is a healthy number for a niche game, but people say thats dead these days...
