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Now that the dust has settled, is this gacha good yet?
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No sex CG, not recommended.
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>>729928795
Genshin has shitloads of content, but it has problem of limited characters making shit way too easy. When you have full team of recent 5-stars, all of the challenge is gone.
Sure, there's the endgame challenges, but that's just entirely detached from rest of the game.
...But yeah, I had fun playing through last year, exploring the world, solving puzzles and doing quests. It's possible to play it without spending a dime, and you get shitloads of bang for your unspent bucks.
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>gacha
>good
Pick one.
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hol up
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>>729928937
Mostly agree but the longer you play the more it feels like quantity over quality.
I played from the beginning till the end of !Japan, then got bored and quit.
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>>729929032
The exploration is good. Just as there are healing animes, this is healing game.
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>>729929106
Yeah, it depends if you enjoy the story and setting. I was feeling pretty iffy with the Not-Japan, but had enjoyed exploration elsewhere so I stuck with the game. And then I did actually enjoy stories of Jungle, Not-France and the Dinosaur Land.
It also helps that Genshin has just massive scale in its world, which I always like. It does actually capture the whole "See that mountain? You can climb it. See that ravine? You can jump down there."
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>>729928795
genshin is the one game I will not play because of its fanbase. You have to go to actual trannycore slop like deltarune to find a group more infested with faggots, trannies, and white women.
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>>729928795
>is there a skip button yet
No there is not. So it's still trash.
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>>729929382
kek
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>>729929378
What can do I with what I am seeing in your picture.
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>>729929382
Unironic coming from a shitcord troon.
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it was good until not japan
had its moments with Furina but thats it
went to the shitter after fontaine, i like Mualani and cow slut but the game is unplayable right now
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>>729929382
But its singleplayer
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>>729929536
...You mean characters?
Varesa can run fast, and buttstomp enemies. Running fast is very useful skill.
Charlotte can take pictures of enemies to freeze them, and heal the party.
Furina can summon helpers which attack enemies while draining party HP (or alternatively summon another helper which heals active party member), and buff damage for short time.
Via is the protagonist, she can do bunch of stuff, but most of them aren't that good.
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>>729929641
This but in reverse.
Prologue and act 1 are a fucking slog. You can't even pick a quest to focus on and not have the NPCs busy doing something else. And quests are about random things no one cares like Zhongli funeral scavenger hunt instead of something that matters to the lore.
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>>729930061
Popular games always have loud minorities. Like the homos of baldurs gate or scammers of csgo. Fortunately you can play singleplayer games without ever interacting with them. And since the game is chinese you don't have any woke shit in it at all.
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>>729930528
Kind of ironic how you go to all gacha threads to post tour epic meme like the players do their dailies every day.
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>>729928795
It used to be, like a year ago.
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>>729930198
Faggy male designs + faggy fanbase = me not playing your game
>since the game is chinese you don't have any woke shit in it at all.
gachashit has it's own bullshit to worry about thanks to gender relations in east asia. You won't get niggers but you will get homo shit.
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>>729928795
There's no way the character on the right isn't a male.
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>>729928795
>yet

always has been
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>>729930857
FVSH NVKE
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>>729930598
kek
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>>729930636
What gender relations?
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>>729930665
correct
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>>729928795
its good but I hate it.
I dont like logging everyday its tedious and gives me brain rot
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>>729929382
Almost every Homoverse game is like that. They started this mixed bag gachashit pandering and soon others began copying the same formula.
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>>729928795
>male
>female body
Yuck, tell the AI to git gud.
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>>729930198
>game is chinese you don't have any woke
Ah yes chinese gay sex trad and based
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>>729928795
>that aether edit
Genshin really is for faggots, isn't it. Someone made it with a conscious mind.
>>729929641
Agreed. But I feel the same with totally not china (liyue). Too much fucking boring exploration (chasm) and unskippable traditional dialogs which I'm not really interested to. Anyways I stopped playing after inazuma so I don't know if the new maps are good and it's going to be too grueling if I attempt to catch up now.
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>>729931930
Fontain is pretty chill
Sumeru is fuckhuge and since I love anything egyptian themed I thought it was kino, finally something resembling interconnected dungeons
Natlan strated out ok, but became just fucking annoying to traverse again
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>>729931925
?
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>>729929382
Good, segregate yourself to other brownslops
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>skipniggers are still being filtered in the Year of Our Lord 2026
Dawei will continue to receive money from me kek
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>wutards
>honktards
>tendies
>burnouts that haven't played in years

the cross genshin players must bear
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>>729932239
reading is the kryptonite of zoomers
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>>729928795
why doesn't Aether have a bulge? Ken doll or small dick?
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>>729932504
He had bottom surgery.
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>>729932504
he's a Link copy after all
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>>729929032
FPBP
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>>729932239
>>729932239
its fine, even if you don't there's a gajillion chinese that will do it. we just don't like faggots and all that.
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>>729929106
>missing the desert kino
>missing the underwater exploration
>missing Jeht solving the sandnigger problem
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ok but what do we ACTUALLY think?
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>>729932483
>if you don't like reading 20 textboxes of AI generated slop where one would have sufficed then you hate reading!
I just want to open chests...
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>>729932768
Lumine's 3 pixels of cleavage were censored.
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>>729932812
she has bigger thighs to make up for it
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>>729932768
A massive improvement for Aether as the default outfit is pretty queer
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>>729928795
Gachas get worse with time retardbro...
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>>729932768
Aether downgrade, lumine sidegrade
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>>729932768
Let me guess Lumine is wearing shorts
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>>729932829
She's probably still wearing a diaper underneath like usual. Zero chance she has a tasteful pair of panties under there.
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>>729928795
>mihomo censoredslop
>good
KEK
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>>729928795
>>729932768
Sibling sex.
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>gacha
>good
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>>729932784
Then hit the regular casino like a normal SEApaggie
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>>729932768
hate the brown and yellow, will be sticking with OG Loom
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Nod-Krai's story is pretty good but the exploration really went to shit. There's only a fraction of the usual hidden optional stuff, and the compass that just reveals every last thing on the map is fucking awful. Wuwatroons ruined this game with their influence unfortunately
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>>729932768
I would pick male MC if this was the default outfit five years ago.
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I really like the visuals of the game but I cannot stand the writing
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>>729933125
seethe :)
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>>729933452
Blame our own phonefaggots first, mostly SEApaggies too. Bigger map means they can't play it on their phones
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>>729933683
Could be, yeah. Phoneniggers are a menace in every game
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>>729933682
>smiling emoji
You definitely are.
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>>729928937
>limited characters making shit way too easy
That's not a Genshin problem. That's a gacha problem and to a greater extent a live service problem. Most games which are designed to be played "forever" have pseudo infinite scaling because that's the easiest way to ensure players always have something to work toward. This sort of scaling is impossible to balance around. If you play Genshin long enough it doesn't matter which characters you use you'll be able to trivialize nearly all content.
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>>729932768
Less gay than before but still not going to pick him
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>>729929032
I picked Wuthering Waves
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>>729928795
No gacha will ever be good.
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>>729928795
I'll be able to recommend it once they add a skip button.

As it is there's just SO fucking much unskippable, pointless rambling. I dunno of these chinks get paid by the word, but it sure feels like it.
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i deleted my account and i regret it because the game finally seems to be improving instead of stagnating
should i just make a new one...i had 5 years of progress on my old account and i will have to redo everything...
kind of want the dude called lohen, he seems to be knight coded
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>>729935574
might as well wait for Endfield at this point
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>>729935574
why did you delete it? i didn't even knew you could
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>>729935607
i might do that, i was waiting for that thing anyway
>>729935797
i'm very retarded and impulsive, when i get depressed i do stupid shit
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>>729929032
frog-sama... ore wa kneeru
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I look like that.
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>>729934772
I'd recommend you stick to digging pagpag

>>729935574
>bet against Dawei
>lost
kek
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>>729934692
Put the trip on, SHiN
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>>729932768
Lumine is a downgrade and Aether is just shit, but that's because Aether is ugly in everything
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>>729934692
>wuwafag is the genshin reject
imagine my shock
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>>729932768
new hair looks great, aether is a massive improvement, lumine is slightly better or equal to the base outfit
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>>729928937
Is it even worth trying it at this point? There's apparently a bunch of content I can't even play anymore and any limited character I'd save for would probably need a full team of limiteds who might not rerun for a year or more
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>>729936845
There's hint of an event menu, they might use it to add old events back chronologically
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>>729936845
the content you missed out on is at least 90% filler that wasn't worth going through in the first place.
for your second point it depends on the character, you just have to know that it will take you months to have an account that can clear the endgame, so it doesn't really matter what kind of teams are needed, and powercreep being the way it is as long as you have the latest toy you will be fine
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>>729936845
You can beat the main game with any team. Endgame is for up to date players to do something while they wait for new updates. No point stressing about it when you have 5 years of shit to go through.
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>>729931504
Nigga you take a break when you have done everything you wanted to do and all that's left is the daily chore cycle. 365 days of daily chores should give you 150 rolls per year. That's only 1 character per year and 1 lost coinflip. For comparison we will get 100 rolls on the next patch just by playing the events, exploring the new island and doing quests.
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>>729936278
Go ahead and defend genshin's writing, this should be fun. You can start with the 4.1 and Inazuma AQs.
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>>729929167
For exploration to be good the world has to be interesting and worth exploring. Genuinely fun, not "I'm only going around opening chests and killing enemy camps because my pull economy relies on it" "fun"
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>>729932768
>no Aether Tummy
Now he just looks like the other forgettable gacha males.
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>>729936845
>is this worth playing if i didn't experience literally every side content the game has ever had to offer
fucking zoomers, i swear to god
nothing is worth playing for you fuckers unless you've started in early closed beta
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>>729937686
Why would anyone try to change someone's opinion on 4chan of all places. You either like it or not.
nta
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>>729937971
I genuinely think it will be funny because genshin has slurpers who say absolutely unhinged shit
Dude a few years ago told me it had better combat than DMC and that the inability to manually control which enemy you target is a feature.
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Genshin stories are written for girls and it makes it very hard to continue with the story for me(from Natlan).
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>>729938049
Why would you just join a thread of a specific game and start seething that people enjoy it?
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>>729937781
You wished, there are less of that and now most of those are locked behind quest and multiple puzzles because people keep complaining there too many chest and empty camps back then.
Now retards complaining that there to many POI full of lore dump in new regions.
These people moved on to wushit.
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>>729937781
>"I'm only going around opening chests and killing enemy camps because my pull economy relies on it"

-t I'm stuck in 2.5 hours long prologue region.
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>>729938134
You're getting defensive and creating a strawman. I've played genshin since launch. Only thing I've said about it ITT is that the writing is bad, and the fact that it's unskippable prevents me from recommending it (and the OP is basically about this question). This comment was enough to really upset >>729936278. Maybe you should've asked them why they were seething?
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>>729928795
Genshin mihomo ccp shills will defend this
Also 30+ minutes of NPCs yapping every quest
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>>729938627
>i've played since launch
>i hate one of the largest parts of the game
Either you're mentally ill or you're just here to stir shit up
In which case you're mentally ill either way
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>>729938630
>post liyue gay shit pic
>Said it went worse during inazuma and complaining about gay shit
Imagine spending time making this shitty image and still not knowing how to shitpost properly.
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>>729938662
my gatcha slop is better than your gatcha slop
maybe you should go outside
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>>729938721
By raw playtime, no, the story doesn't actually take up that much time proportionally, but it's definitely a drag that would be better if it were skippable. I play primarily for exploration, the OST, the teambuilding, and to collect anime wives. My investment in the game does not prevent me from being able to give well-deserved criticism.

You just did the slurper option select btw
>You haven't played the game? Your criticisms don't count.
>You've played the game despite having criticisms? You must be shitposting.
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uh oh, wuwa melty
reminder to take your pills, "genshin killer" bros
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>>729937462
>100 rolls when you need minimum c1 or c0r1
lmao
>>729936845
You want real answer?
NO. Genshin has severe HP bloat and immunity gimmicks that without premium teams, don't expect to comfortably exploring the areas.
>imb4, but just lower the world level
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>>729939034
>without premium teams, don't expect to comfortably exploring the areas
good morning saar, pls do not into playing genshit very pay to win explore saar
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>>729939034
>need
>minimum
The metachurl fell for the whalebait stygian onslaught, abyss floor 12 and lunar theater
lmao
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Best way to play it on Linux?
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>>729932768
hips too wide
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AETHER WHAT THE HELL???
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>>729938630
>fontaine, natlan and nod krai
>gay shit
What the fuck are you talking about? Natlan only had like 2 male characters and they barely spoke with each other.
Genshin is far from a perfect game but you anti-shills find the most retarded shit to complain about.
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>>729929746
>buttstomp enemies
god i wish that were me
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>>729938730
>implying wuwa shills can tell inazuma from liyue
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>>729928795
...wait a fucking second.
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>>729939158
anime-game-launcher or dawn to download it
It should just work nowadays
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>>729928795
now is a great time to get into genshin, the game has big events coming up for a bunch of freebies and skins, plus the story is finally starting to pop off and get exciting so now is a great time to jump in and play. not to mention the game genuinely has a ton more content endgame wise than it did on release with the addition of stygian onslaught and imaginarium theater. you won't get much from it as an early player but its genuinely fun to do even at lower levels for the rewards, and the combat in genshin is unrivaled in combination with all the exploration kino, i'd say yes if you can look past the fact that it is a gacha game, but here is the thing you could just play with the freebies, or even just the 5$ a month sub and get enough resources to get whatever you want its pretty cheap when you compare it to other gachas.
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>>729939158
https://github.com/TwintailTeam/TwintailLauncher?tab=readme-ov-file#installation

Lets you download and run all the big gachas. And also play with mods, and configure stuff like FPS override. Funny enough I think modding actually works better in linux, since hoyo seems to have flagged XXMI but not old GIMI versions with their ILLEGAL TOOL DETECTED shit. On windows I have to use GIMI but on linux XXMI works fine, probably because the kernel anticheat doesn't work there kek.
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>>729940241
>and the combat in genshin is unrivaled
uhhhh I enjoy the game but let's dial it down a notch
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>>729940319
name a game that does the reaction synergies and action combat that doesn't feel like absolute dog shit, its a unique way of approaching a gacha games team mechanics and i really think its great.
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>>729939158
I just run it using scripts and steam's proton install
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>>729932768
Lumine is a downgrade because they censored her cleavage.

Aether looks lost his tummy window, so looks less like a flaming homosexual. Slight upgrade, but he still looks pretty gay.

Overall pretty disappoiting after waiting 5.5 years to get alt outfits for them.
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>>729932768
loom looks ok I like the colour palette. But they should've kept the cleavage from the original outfit. Aethers clothes are better but they should just let men have short hair and drop the pony tails.
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>>729940410
you first
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>name a game that does the reaction synergies
That's one genshin-specific mechanic, are you saying the only way for a game to have good combat is to have elemental reactions? That's obviously not true, there are multiple viable ways to design engaging combat.

Yeah, elemental reactions are cool system mechanics that, along with resonance and the particle system, create some interesting synergies between characters that can enable cool teambuilding. But they've never been balanced, half of them were always super weak. What with current powercreep and kit designs, it's basically just vape and melt that can carry a team on their own merits. Unfortunately most transformative reactions now are just keys to unlock some effect in a character's kit, or they're lunar shill reactions.

>and action combat that doesn't feel like absolute dog shit
I don't actually think genshin's moment-to-moment combat feels very good to play. Ping-based swaps, poor targeting, some really bizarre pushboxes, etc. Most characters are EQ bots and the game's DPS units tend to just do one thing over and over (shoutouts to Natlan's DPS for trying to make things a little interesting). And the enemy design has always been REALLY annoying and gimmick-heavy, and that part feels like it's getting worse. Deciding what characters to put in a team to deal with specific content can be engaging, but I've never found it super fun to play the team after.

tl;dr roll the meta back to pre-nahida sumeru
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>>729937462
>just spend 200 hours of your life for 100 rolls
kek, the absolute state of genshinfags
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>>729928795
what happened to xher penis?
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>>729941154
God forbid someone to explore the open world and do quest in a game where the main appeal is exploration and quests...
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>>729938662
you really shouldn't say this after the snore fest that was 3.0
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>>729941154
numbers pulled straight from your ass or what? It's nowhere near 200hours to play all of the content in the next patch it's at most like 50 hours. 200 hours would be exploring 3 or more whole nations to 100%
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>>729935574
>because the game finally seems to be improving instead of stagnating
Meh it's doing both if you'd believe it. Story is getting a bit better, but the updates are down to a trickle because they're pushing for the roblox game mode. Just a month ago, we went weeks without even some bullshit double resources event. Game isn't dying, but it definitely feels like they're sorta kinda done with genshin being their main game.
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>>729941280
NTA but I thought it was fine. Decent amount of gameplay integration and didn't overstay its welcome. Lame how chisa got sidelined though. And I think they're dropping the 2nd half when the next char comes out, which I also don't like desu. But yeah overall pretty decent. I'm also more willing to forgive a skippable snorefest than an unskippable one.
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>>729939158
I just run it through Steam and had zero problems so far. I do use ProtonPlus to add Proton EG to Steam.
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>>729942949
Genshin just werks nowadays, they explicitly went out of their way to unbreak Linux actually
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>>729941056
Your entire post is invalidated by the fact that you're a retarded metachurl presenting an extremely dishonest argument.

A vast, vast majority of the playerbase does not give a single fuck about trying to 36* Abyss or clear Fearless+. You can easily play through the entire game with a Lisa Overloaded comp if you want.
>hurr durr well if you want to make that argum-
Nope. This doesn't apply to most other gacha games because most gachas rely heavily on doing your daily auto combat clears for character progression and your account is gimped as hell without it. Genshin has had 4* only, 1* weapon, no artifact etc challenge clears since the game released because the game's reaction system is designed in a way to enable that.
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>>729932768
Good for a start. Now give us Inazuma, Sumeru, Fontaine and Natlan outfits.
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>>729928795
Who's that fertility goddess on the right
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>>729945719
It's a bad reshade preset, right? No way the saturation can be this bad by default.
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>>729928795
Better in some ways.
WAY fucking worse in others.

t. Recently uninstalled the game
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>>729945719
>>729946264
looks worse than phantasy star online 2
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>>729946436
reminds me of those soulless f2p korean mmorpgs
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>>729932768
Lumine is completely the same, but Aether got shot in the head and murdered. They did him so dirty covering him up.
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Zibaibwos, how many pulls should it take to get a C4-C6 Illuga?
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>>729947792
Getting a new 4* up to c6 is comparable to getting a limited 5* to c2.
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>>729947792
I got C3 Raiden before getting Sara to C6, but then again I also managed to get C6 Chev before even getting a single 5 star.
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>>729947792
I got a C6 Iansan before getting a Varesa during her first banner. I got C2 Varesa on the current banner and still have a C3 Chevy. The point is there is no guarantee you will get it, but you might get it
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>>729947792
between 6 and an infinite
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>>729948224
So I guess I stop at C1 Zibai if I get lucky with my Illuga drops and maybe go for her weapon, or go all the way to C2 if not enough Illugas in 300 rolls. Can't believe I'm depending on a 4* to stop rolling for my 5*... The whole system for the 4* having no pity and not being included into the starglitter shop is legit retarded.
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>>729929641
Actual good taste in /v/?
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>>729928795
you're cringe
crossdressing is truly disgusting
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>>729932239
the issue is that they use too many words to say very little of substance
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>Shin comes into Genshin thread and starts spamming wuwa garbage

And yet WuWa players will swear up and down that it’s only hoyodrones that do this kind of thing.
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god, laha roi is fucking ugly
gimme back rinascita
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>>729932768
i might skip ahead in the story just to get the outfit early
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>>729949985
You can go back to Rinacita anytime doe
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>>729950043
lumine?
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>>729949917
their dailies consist of nitpicking whatever hoyo does lol
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>>729946773
i don't want to play a guy who dresses like a dessert woman
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>>729949917
There are barely any Western WuWa players. Nobody gives a shit about the game which is why every WuWa thread on 4chan is just a tripfag blogposting and responding to himself and why nearly all discussion about it is just ex-Genshin players whining about Genshin together while barely talking about their new game which they probably don't even play.
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wuwa just took mavuika's bike and xilonen and improved them, so I guess in another year we'll see what they'll do with nod krai stuff
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i'd play your garbage if it wasn't unreal engine trash
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>>729950531
is there a single original character in that game?
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>>729950592
I'd rather they steal cool characters than do whatever they were trying to do in 1.0
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>>729928795
is this a real outfit ?
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>>729950795
that's just the art
in game she's going to be the same stick as ever
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>>729950795
>art
ingame model or GTFO
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before i check how good is genshin hentai and porn
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>>729932768
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>>729950592
Hahaha, oh wow.
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>>729950795
she barely changed her outfit, but now she's aether colored
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>>729950804
they've always stolen
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>>729951185
nahida and charlotte's child
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>>729928795
like overwatch
never play it, only for character exploit (porn)
especially Aether x Lumine incest
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>>729951557
are you inbred?
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what circlet do i give varesa? crit rate or dmg? i have no other artifacts atm and she'll use widsith
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>>729952112
Most likely crit rate if you're using the plunge set. Crit damage if you're using the Natlan set.
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>>729929106
Japan suffered badly because they changed their plans for that arc between 1.0 and 1.8 so they rewrote everything and the world lore, then when 2.0 came out, people got so angry the traveller did not give a shit about the civil war and just wanted to find their twin instead of getting embroiled in the local conflict they had no connection to, so 2.1 hard pivoted to have the traveller now SUPER invested in this small civil conflict and make a best friend for life (or at least the rest of that guys) that matters so much to them that they'd never forget their name! Even though you the player forgot them the second they were off screen and their death meant nothing to you, then they had to quickly wrap up the main plot and show the new world building with the greek area under Japan. It was rushed and poorly done, so obviously the next region they had to drag shit out as long as they possibly could, making everything slow and dramatic and never pivot from their original plan, but that also was met with people saying how boring it was, so Fontaine was designed to be as entertaining and fanservicey as possible. Each region is written as a response to the negative feedback of the last region, AKA Genshin Impact is written like the star wars sequel trilogy
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>>729952396
basedman
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>>729952467
i liked sumeru a lot
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>>729952467
daym bro, lay off the joint for a bit
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Which Gacha game has good feet content?
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>>729928795
Genshin was unironically good (for a gacha) on launch. It did dip a few months in once you've exhausted all the content since it turned into a chore loop along with 3 back to back to homo banners. Mondstadt was alright but Liyue's story was generic chinawank. Then the Dragonspine patch dropped, which was absolute kino. Another several months of chore loops until Inazuma and Enkanomiya, which were mostly fun, although you would probably think the Inazuma story was shit if you don't like typical anime tropes. That long sidequest line of Inazuma was better than the main story. Chasm exploration was really fun but then Sumeru came along (around the point where the writers and staff got shuffled) and everything took a nose dive. The story was completely lost, map design lost inspiration, the desert was a slog, events got repetitive at that point, every few months you would get your mandatory chinawank event/story portion, new characters were not appealing, and I lost interest then. Although Sumeru's map that lead into the giant robot's control room was pretty cool, haven't logged in since the desert.
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>>729953836
cyno feet x3
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>>729928795
since we're on 4chan, i can share how retarded i was
started playing recently, looked up guides and builds and realized incredibly late that i shouldn't swap from character to character to use base attacks and skills, but that i should turn all characters except the main dps into sub dpses and supports that come in, use their skills and get out

i started struggling cause i didn't have any good main dps-sub dps pairing
i spent 150 real moneis to get varesa and xilonen and iansan and chevreuse since i already had durin
meant to do a varesa durin chevreuse iansan team
instead as soon as i spent real money on it, i got completely turned off from it
farming these advanced characters requires me to beat trounce domains that i'm unable to do
and so i dropped it all
i guess it's my fault for fucking up teambuilding, i just didn't realize until it was too late that transformative reactions scale exclusively with EM and LVL
and that in any case, i should've built sub dpses to pair with a main dps

but i'm just done with it, the resin system, the fomo for events, fucking up teambuilding so much ruined the whole game for me
i mean, it's just insane the amount of time i have to spend to unlock characters, only for them to be completely useless cause i have to farm their level separately from their attacks, which require all separate farming, and then their artifacts which could also come from domains i can't manage to do

it's my fault i know but its just too hostile of a game. i played all souls, i beat elden ring and its dlcs alone and in melee with no summons. but genshin is hard in a stupid way. stupid hitboxes, stupid big numbers damage. i know retards IRL who play it, but it just requires too much from me. i'd rather play 100 games for the same amount of investment required to play genshin
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>>729954213
So this is the power of roll slop fags...
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>>729954213
tldr
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>>729954497
yeah i was just hugely depressed and thought i'd feel better, i'm retarded
>>729954576
i sucked at the game for teambuilding wrong, spent money on better characters but building them requires me to do fights i can't manage to do since i did teambuilding wrong in the first place
i could just turn the difficulty down and get worse rewards, but the whole experience burned me out
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>>729954213
>roll any carry (Fatessa counts as one)
>add any 3 4-star characters that work with her
>look up artifact sets for each character (important) but don't farm heavily until AR 45
>???
>faceroll 99% of content because combat is easy
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>>729954760
I bet your problem is you didn't level characters, weapons, artifacts etc. Any 5* character will be garbage without investment.
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I burnt out after Natlan
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>>729954213
Imagine getting this fucking filtered by a casual gacha game mechanics
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>>729954983
yeah, but i never did level up any sub dps
i was switching yanfei and lisa for overload without realizing that transformatives scale only with EM and LVL, and artifacts with EM are impossible to get and LVL farming from 80 to 90 takes a lot of time. it also felt useless cause they were bad characters with no sinergy.
so i wasn't doing enough damage anymore to get out of the corner i had gotten into. the fix would be to roll back difficulty of everything and then farm for weeks other characters.
>>729955117
i had level 80 weapons and characters, just could not level up talents anymore cause i could not beat trounce domains
>>729955840
i literally soloed promised consort radahn in melee
genshin let me get to AR 50 just switching in and out of yanfei and lisa until suddenly overloads didn't kill enemies anymore
it never made clear to me that i should build sub dpses for 1 main dps, and also that transformative reactions are impossibly hard to get good without high investments. getting elemental mastery on an artifact has a drop rate of 2.5%, but you have limited resin so you can only try a few a day. it's just too hostile of a game
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>>729955840
i had to look up guides
i genuinely don't understand elemental mastery
or when to use elemental damage or atk % artifacts
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>>729956494
Genshin literally got rid of any guess work by crowdsourcing what everyone uses. If you were going to use a guide, you might as well just press the button that shows you everyone else's build
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>>729956494
>when to use elemental damage or atk % artifacts
when talents specifically say they buff or deal damage % of your attack
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>>729955568
i skipped natlan but got burned out with nod krai
also miliastra, fuck that shit
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>>729956653
It only shows the weapons you have, which is both good and bad, since it won't show you craftable and fishable weapons you don't own. And artifact sets it recommends are suboptimal sometimes.
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>>729956653
how do you look up teams in game for characters you already have?
cause i built what i had, and pushed through with what i had without realizing i should've built sub dpses as soon as i got them
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>>729933885
True. It was same in Star Rail too, the game was most fun when I was in my discovery phase, going through main story with team that really wasn't optimal, but could handle the content. Being able to stomp every encounter isn't fun.

>>729936845
When I started playing last year, I did actually enjoy the story and exploration quite a bit... until one recent update where they decided to fucking reference limited time event from first year of the game, which is not archived. It felt like such a fucking random decision too.
But like other Anons said, they seem to be adding archived events in. And the game does have loads of content, if you are looking for open world adventure.

>>729939432
The attack that saved Genshin...
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>>729954213
>farming these advanced characters requires me to beat trounce domains that i'm unable to do
what
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feeling like i should roll xilonen
i have her weapon
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>>729957631
i can't beat trounce domains for talents
i tried, the only ones i can beat are dvalin, wolf and tartaglia
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>>729957631
I can actually see that. The later bosses are made with newer characters in mind, so they have way more health and attack than launch enemies, and also have more mechanics to them.
Of course players at max level won't really bat an eye at it, but good fucking luck beating the Natlan boss or the Fontaine bosses without well built teams.

>>729957696
You could ask other players for help? Genshin has multiplayer.
Just change your status message to something like "I need to fight Trounce Domain! Please help!"
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>Ruined Lumine's cleavage
>Ruined Aether's naval
Once more I am calling for the complete and total destruction of Beijing
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>newbabb metachurling from day one
What a horrible fate.
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>>729958071
>Lumine's cleavage
She barely had any, which is why it's so silly to cover up the 2 inch bare flesh, fucking Mihomo
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>>729958071
>>729958158
>cant appreciate the additional back-pussy
Shame.
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>>729957087
>it's suboptimal
We're not talking about meta endgame bullshit here. If you're just trying to out damage the overworld and domains, you can go purely off of the main stats of artifacts. I played up to Natlan with Wanderers and Glad artifacts because of how little it matter beyond completing the Spiral Abyss endgame.
>>729957096
If you're really in the weeds of finding the 'perfect team', find friends. Go to any endgame mode and see what they use to complete it. Meta is a moving target so whatever advice anyone gives you, it can easily change given whatever additions/buffs the current patch has. If you don't have certain characters, just use similar enough characters. Don't have Escoffier? You're fucked, but I guess Diona is good enough. It's a lot of that kind of logic.
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>>729958071
IMPROVED AETHER
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Is it too late to get into this game
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>>729958428
He looks dapper now but he doesn't look anywhere near as hot, I need my boywife to look like a wife god damn it
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>>729938662
Why is genshin permanently rent free in wuwa fans' heads? They can never evaluate their game by their own merit and only by comparison, it's negative self-esteem.
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As a day 1 player who finally quit in 5.2, it's clear they tonally shifted to cater to actual children while throwing crumbs at everyone else.
Which is fine, children are easy to manipulate fiscally so go off, kings. They funneled the rest of their playerbase to hsr and zzz.
The latter is killing itself right now, but at least HSR is doing alright.
Wuwa is still winning by aping genshin but doing it better across the board.
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>>729958563
>>729958714
Man, he called that shit.
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Shin baits are getting increasingly more retarded with each passing year.
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>>729932196
lmao @ the irony of this post. gachashit are the designated "games" for browns since you have no money to pay for real games.
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>>729958230
Is there any footage of her exposed back, or is that just conjecture?
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>>729958563
To try and be genuine (a mistake here, I know), a lot of wuwa's base came from Genshin entering its worst ever year right as wuwa dropped with way better quality of life.
I occasionally floated back but dailies are way more of a chore in genshin still, the story is still as g rated as it can get (so this is war with 4 npcs sleeping on the ground), and the actual racism that started with Natlan for team comps is absurdly anti consumer. Not to mention shit like your abilities only feeling good in the region for that year now and shit everywhere else.
It's just a product I loved that fell apart over years and now I think all that's left is sunk cost anons and tertiary retards who just want to feel "included" in the space.
>>729958776
See above.
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>>729929032
FGO
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>>729958714
>HSR
i'm too dumb for this game
i don't think i can build any teams
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>>729958007
>Of course players at max level won't really bat an eye at it, but good fucking luck beating the Natlan boss or the Fontaine bosses without well built teams.
Seems to match my observations. Stopped during Inazuma, where I could still steamroll everything. Skipped ahead to Natlan and the story boss is pain in the ass despite me getting lucky with two Mauvika in a single pull.

I still keep hearing from my teenage sister and friend group(who somehow see me as a guru on the game despite not playing it in years), and they aren't even caught up in the story because it's too difficult for them. They just build what they like without much concern for team constellations or artifact grinding and anything after Natlan seems to be a hard wall. Even the minor whale in the group struggles because he only gets C0 of half the new characters.
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>>729958993
enjoy coping for the rest of your life i guess
you're literally talking about it in a genshin thread because no one plays that dogshit besides bots
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>>729958007
>You could ask other players for help?
i'm level 100 introvert
i'm retarded and don't want others to know
>>729958285
>find friends
can't
i even leveled my teapot to 10 and got max coins rate, but am still missing the "buy from someone else's traveling merchant"
i just can't
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>>729959216
The biggest gameplay issue with HSR is how they design teams where you need at least 3 limited units that specifically synergize with each other for them to either work in the first place, or feel good to play.
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>>729958563
frankly i've read and seen so much shit that i'm led to believe nobody actually likes wuwa on its own merits, they just play it to spite hoyo
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>>729959230
>Natlan and the story boss is pain in the ass despite me getting lucky with two Mauvika in a single pull.
Hot tip use pyro traveler, he/she has an extra damage bonus and destroys the pillars even faster than Mavuika in that fight.
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>>729959230
I wouldn't take advice from random teenage girls who somehow have credits, and use that to fix their problems.
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>>729959216
HSR has two trains of thought
>lol auto easy bruuuuh
And then people who actually think and realize the synergy between the parts is vastly more important than any other mihomo gacha,
You could post the characters you own and we could talk about it, but generally you look for
>main damage dealer
>support/secondary damage dealer
>support
>sustain
That's a standard team comp, then you look at synergies. Is your team a new hp scaling rememberance team? Are they all about follow up attacks? Etc. etc.
>>729959310
I am literally enjoying it more and fortunately don't need the approval of 12 year olds to have fun.
Genshin hit it big at a critical moment and will retain the lowest common denominator of player with ease because of that. It's a fun game, I was there, I enjoyed it, through its ups and downs. I discovered a product that catered to everything I enjoyed in it, but did it better, while Genshin itself was flagging. It's an unironic stars aligned moment.
All the comparison talk just happens because it's the most apt way to describe it.
I could talk about the overworld exploration, but I could truncate it by 90% to saying
>it's what I enjoyed in genshin but better
Combat?
>it's what I enjoyed in genshin but better
Character building?
>it's what I enjoyed in genshin but better
Characterization?
>it's what I enjoyed in genshin but better
etc etc.
I can expand on any of it if asked, but we both know the average genshin player doesn't actually care and just wants to shitpost about this topic.
See >>729959458
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>>729959491
The assumption is that /a/non has played up to Natlan to get pyro traveler. Let's assume not and that they don't have Natlan characters. It's actually better to join random matches in that case.
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>>729959624
>Keeps spamming WuWa images in a Genshin thread
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Genshitfags calling anyone but themselves brown will never not be funny
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>>729959624
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When people say they are struggling on the weekly bosses, are they talking about max difficulty or something?
Just turn that shit down if you are bad at the game.
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>>729959624
i don't even play genshin, i play zzz and you mentally ill wuwa niggers are constantly hounding that game because you didn't manage to kill your original target
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>>729959702
I'm discussing the game in relation to the thread and posting pretty women. I can also post genshins I like, but I already expect
>arlecchino
>basically a man lololol anon you suck dick
Because retards like you stopped maturing at 10.
>>729959781
wife. Glad I got Lynae.
>>729959819
I just dropped ZZZ due to the atrocious rewrites as we entered relaunch number 3.
Anon, do not let the internet gaslight you. Lots of people play multiple games and the tribalism is from third worlders who NEED their f2p game to be the right one because they can't afford anything else.
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>>729959624
classic wuwa schizo
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>>729959879
>relaunch number 3.
oh it's not gaslighting, i know exactly what you are
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>>729959758
i'm brown but not the jeet kind
now what?
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>>729960039
>1.4
>2.0
>2.5
I mean, you could count 1.2 when they killed tv I suppose, but that feels a little gratuitous. Also my wife Caesar would never do anything wrong in her patch.
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>>729959491
>>729959658
Team was C0 Pyro Traveller, C1 Mauvika, C0 Zhongli(phys DPS) and Z1 Jeanne, the first two with very underleveled talents and bad artifacts.
It's not like I actually failed to beat it or needed multiple tries, the thing still went down on my first attempt but it took like 10+ minutes with me waiting on the cooldown for revival items multiple times.

It's not really difficult and more just a chore. The game used to be utterly trivial with any random assortment of your favorite characters, but now it jumped to a boring slog. Maybe there was a time where it really nailed the balance, but I wasn't playing then.
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>>729960039
when wuwa does what players want, the devs listened
when zzz does what players want, it's a desperate relaunch
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>>729960161
>big patches are relaunches
shitposter narrative
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>>729960181
>C0 Zhongli(phys DPS)
OK, so I see your problem.
You might be retarded.
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>>729960181
If it's dps numbers you're lacking then take this advice >>729959798. Otherwise tough it up until you can level up or join coop. There is zero reason to rush.
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>wonder why the wuwa fags are so agitated
>look at revenue chart
>laugh
i get it now
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Good to know Wuwoids continue being dishonest retards lmao
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>>729960181
>Phys DPS John
Now that is a blast from the past
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>>729960272
They labeled 1.4 and 2.0 relaunches themselves, anon.
I am being a bit of a shitter about 2.5 because they literally rewrote the narrative in 2.4 a week before it dropped, leading to unvoiced lines in everything but gook language so they could put more emphasis on the wife, who ALSO gets soft retcons in her patch so that actually you were her bestest friend forever so long ago and isn't this so sweet?
You can enjoy it, it was just too much garbage writing for me to accept after 4 patches of continually worse story.
P.S. Isolde got done fucking dirty.
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>>729932768
The outfits are fine but I'm more excited about upgrading from 240p textures to 720p textures.
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>>729960475
Textures or outfits, either way Im still not going to play Traveler in this day and age.
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>>729960294
And being a retarded f2p who misses most event rewards you could still breeze through the game in the earlier versions. You can still do it now, but it's frustrating and takes 3x longer, while the game itself is a constant advertisement for itself.

>>729960343
I'm good, but thanks for the advice anon.
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>>729960408
>They labeled 1.4 and 2.0 relaunches themselves, anon.
source?
>who ALSO gets soft retcons in her patch so that actually you were her bestest friend forever so long ago and isn't this so sweet?
this also happened to trigger but you didn't call it a relaunch
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>>729960475
A shame the actual high res textures are still a PS5 exclusive
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>>729929032
No I'll pick two, stupid frog poster.
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>>729928795
wait wut
i thought the one on the right was a boy
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>>729960623
Its a shop/AI, you can tell by looking at the pixels.
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>>729936845
idk, do you like zelda? Cause it's just zelda but more and better.
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>>729960623
he is
don't trust at slops
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>>729960475
Yeah...its long overdue because yikes.
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>>729960354
>pokemon
>not combined
chinkies really do not want to see a jap game on top, huh? lmao
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>>729960747
>NPC has a better model than the main character
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>>729960579
Did 1.4 have rewritten main story lines that involved trigger that were unvoiced due to the changes?
>source
How many normal patches have prereg registration goals for numbers of players in other gachas?
I could go digging for the infographics, listen to bug speak streams, and collate stronger data for you, but I imagine it will be handwaved or just ignored. You're free to think otherwise.
I put ~100 into zzz since launch so I'm not trying to be a hater specifically, but the game has been continually fumbling the ball since launch and that is never going to stop.
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>>729958993
Genshin is not perfect, but many of the flaws you mentioned are also present in WuWa, and that's fine, these are video games and we can have our preferences.
But it's also why only talking about the demerits of Genshin while posting WuWa pictures feels very disingenuous despite your first sentence.
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>genshin thread
>scroll to bottom and it's people only talking about wuwa, hsr and zzz
????
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>>729928795
>yet
Was.
Then they decided to make it the trashcan for all the shit they built but rejected from their actual passion project (ZZZ).
So they dropped niggerbeat music and "urban youth" street culture, DJs in rollerskate, sentient pixel-art mascots and devil-may-cry-tier motorbike retardation into it.
I dropped it and even their announcements that my favorite characters where getting extra content isn't enough to make me want to update and relaunch the game.
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>>729960181
If you have a shielder and healer on your team and still have to use revival items for 10 minutes, either you're severely underleveled and need to bump down the difficulty or you don't understand the Natlan gimmick. There's a purple bar you need break down immediately when it shows up, which you can either use Natlan characters or elemental attacks. That's it.

Also, saying you want to take random characters you like on a team and also 'balanced gameplay', those 2 things don't work together. You need to put at least some thought into your team building.
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>>729961140
I don't feel like the flaws are there outside the awful rng gear that has become a staple of this genre, but that is probably why I prefer it. I've heard others say traversal feels clunk in wuwa and that the combat feels boring, while praising genshin's and I genuinely can't fathom where they're coming from. I do miss my Navia plunge team, though.
Thank you for not being a twat like 90% of anons, though.
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>>729960945
>I could go digging for the infographics [...] and collate stronger data for you,
It takes all that to find where they strictly labeled their patches as relaunches?
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>>729932768
Loom's outfit is pretty cute, but the fact that it's just an Aether-flavored alt of her default instead of a full-on redesign like Aether has speaks volumes about how good Lumine's original look is and how bad Aether's was. Guess you really can't top perfection nor do you have anywhere to go besides up from rock bottom.
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>>729961320
Because WuWa had flight and other shit which just showed how absolutely empty and boring the world was. What is the point of zipping around if there is absolutely no point to it?
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>>729961682
>covered her cleavage
>but didn't give her a tummy window like Aether had
I shall not be reinstalling.
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>>729961897
Flight existed literally for the region that it was designed around. Rinascita condenses the treasures to specific points and lets you have a far larger scale map that you can traverse via flight and not feel like you're missing out on your crumbs on the ground.
Retroactively adding it to Jinzou sure was a choice, but I can't speak for how latecomers would feel being able to fly in rinascita and not do so in the earlier area. Flight is also not allowed in the new region (for now, we'll see if that's permanent or not since we're currently motorcycling around a skate park).
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>>729961320
Let's go back to your post:
>the story is still as g rated as it can get
It is, but WuWa is a basic ass shonen plot just as well in 2.X.
In my opinion, Genshin's story strength has never been in the direct story but in the worldbuilding and lore details that you'll find in books and whatnot. There's a lot of lore discussions you can have for months while you wait for the next content drop.
Now, is that ideal? Definitely not. They've started to reveal things in the actual story quests rather than hide them, which is an improvement, but yes it's still "G-Rated" as you'd call it.

>dailies are way more of a chore in genshin
Just do a domain 3 times that take about 10~ seconds each. Then fetch the rewards at the guild. Takes about 5 minutes.
It's improved severely with the direct 40 stam redeem on instances, and the abolishment of commissions.
Now WuWa? I think it's comparable, no?

>actual racism that started with Natlan for team comps is absurdly anti consumer
The racism is bad for team diversity, but it'll help keep powercreep in line as they'll have other ways to sell you characters than straight up power increase.
WuWa's new 3.0 mechanic - Tunability and its offshoots - will likely be a form of racism for the endgame in due time, so let's wait and see.

WuWa also has limited 5*s that have other limited 5*s as dedicated supports, many of which don't work without the pair (lol zani).

>Not to mention shit like your abilities only feeling good in the region for that year now and shit everywhere else.
That was a Natlan only thing and yes I didn't like them. Nod-Krai feels like a return to form IMO.
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>>729962120
Yes big empty spaces of nothing were really great. High quality there.
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>>729961320
>I've heard others say traversal feels clunk in wuwa
Huh, honestly I don't think I've heard this before. WuWa traversal feels REALLY good.

What I dislike about WuWa traversal is the flight and the bike. They completely undermine exploration, at least in the way that I enjoy, as you'll just be going from spot to spot.
Genshin I enjoy walking around the paths, taking photos and seeing the scenery.

The bike auto-gathering chests like Nahida is a cherry on top.
You could say: "But you DON'T have to use them", and you'd be correct, but their existence affects how they design the world as well. The 3.X world has sprawling long empty landscapes to account for the bike for instance.
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If you want to make a Wuwa thread, make a wuwa thread. Nothing against Wuwa, but I have no idea what going on over there and I doubt most of the Genshin playerbase don't play both games.
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>>729962195
>There's a lot of lore discussions you can have for months while you wait for the next content drop.
I think back a lot to Shenhe's lore and what a monster she is only for Genshin's main narrative to just neuter her at every given opportunity. So much of genshin is lore books that go hard followed by the limpest noodle of a main story beat on the same subject.
>Now WuWa? I think it's comparable, no?
If the leylines were equivalent I'd agree, but you're still bunny hopping from location to location to dump resin on a limited amount of overworld stamina that has to regen.
This was at its worst in Natlan, where sometimes you need to pokemon up just to get to the next one.
If they just shifted leylines for mora/xp to be like domains, this would be something I'd concede as even.
>WuWa's new 3.0 mechanic - Tunability and its offshoots - will likely be a form of racism for the endgame in due time, so let's wait and see.
This is something I worry about, but at least everyone has access to it. Imagine if Natlan had given everyone one of the pokemon abilities. Would have been way nicer.
>(lol zani).
No defense on this, locking the full rotation behind feebee was an insanely awful choice I hope they never commit to again.
>That was a Natlan only thing and yes I didn't like them. Nod-Krai feels like a return to form IMO.
I did enjoy the bit I tried up to doing some crab sidequest, but I got bogged down by the other stuff mentioned in the process. If Genshin was a more traditional live service that didn't punish you for not logging in daily, I could see myself coming back to it. That format really drags its weak points forward for me, sadly.
>>729962304
I didn't mind flight because it was something with a stamina bar that you upgraded and simply running through the areas still felt natural.
The bike definitely feels more purposefully interwoven into its map, which hasn't been the BEST since it's a wee bit clunky. I still need to do a lot of exploring.
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>>729962576
The thread op asked if the gacha was good yet, I was simply commenting on it relative to other games. I don't have a fierce desire to inflame more shitposting when it's rough enough out there.
>>729962203
Same amount of stuff, more densely packed so you don't have to scrape the ground every 2 inches while enjoying the scenery. We had that with hidden chests in not-china and it was awful.
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>>729961902
Loom tummy is too powerful for the average Genshin player to handle, sadly.
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>>729962785
>If the leylines were equivalent I'd agree
Yeah the leylines are bad, I hadn't considered them. Since I rarely level characters/weapons to full 90 (and talents 10), I do have a very good amount of mora and books, so my stamina spend's always on artifacts, bosses or other domains.

>If Genshin was a more traditional live service that didn't punish you for not logging in daily
I feel that way about all modern gacha. I'd play far more of them if this wasn't a thing, but I do like collecting characters, and it is just unfeasible to do so without spending lots of money if you don't log in regularly.
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as someone who's 100%'d every patch and played day 1 of both

>genshin
>great character building and story
>world is a genuine treat to explore, music is 10/10, and the writers genuinely know how to make you love a character

>wuwa
>characters are designed to fit their "niche" (token gyaru girl, token chinese beauty, edgy swordsman, etc)
>story is schitzo with rover meandering through the world with hardly any attachment to the previous zones
>every character is either a chad or a stacy after your dick, with the sole exception being Phrolova who genuinely had a touching story and death
>until it was retconned literally the next patch and she's just fine and continues being the villain
>plot points just happen, there's no buildup or overarching story that leads up to a twist, as if the story was an afterthought to the visuals, romance and action

the combat is enjoyable and I do like the design of the characters, but it is definitely one of the few games that I can hit "skip" for 90% of the dialogue and feel no guilt doing so since everything is so predictable and basic in the writing.
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>>729961902
They gave her a pretty large bust increase in the new skin to compensate for the cleavage being removed.
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So I hear Columbina with Ineffa or Lauma is even more powercreep.
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>>729961902
This is why I ain't playing anymore Chinese developed games. So sick of their bait and switch tactics where they release the game uncensored and then start censoring down the road with later patches and updates. They need to get their heads out of their asses.
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>>729963449
columbina + ineffa carry any dps (wheelchair team)
columbina + lauma is THE dendro team going forward
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>>729963291
>and feel no guilt doing so since everything is so predictable and basic in the writing.
Predictable is valid but I'd disagree on basic.
You reference 2.5 but fail to note that Phrolova is literally confirmed to not be dead the moment after that cutscene, since her heart still beats in the beyond.
2.4 was also a lot of mindfuckery with multiple timelines converging to one final truth.
I won't say it's a masterclass or anything, but you're definitely selling it short on this aspect.
>>729963276
I was a full sender because artifact rng was always my least favorite part of the game.
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>>729963624
Is Columbina and Lauma workable on a Nilou team?
My current team would be triple hydro at that point which doesnt seem like enough dendro. I suppose I could on field Lauma or some shit I guess.
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>>729963291
Wuwa's prime story problem is that each patch's story is dedicated to the new wife for the MC and there's no cohesion to the general narrative until they pull an Avengers Endgame at the end of the major patch cycle.
But when the Genshin devs at GenshinFes said that the dev team's working 2 years ahead on X.0 patches, it's understandably very hard to compete on the same level.

But that means WuWa needs to adapt rather than copy if they cannot do the same.
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>>729963757
Lauma is optimal in Nilou teams. The problem with slotting in Columbina is the same one as slotting in Yelan last year: Where's your sustain?
If you have C1 Lauma sure, it works. Baizhu also works if you have him.
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>>729963757
>Is Columbina and Lauma workable on a Nilou team?
Sure. It's how I played Lauma before getting Nefer.
2 dendro 2 hydro would be optimal, if you need heals yaoyao can help with that
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>>729937781
You wouldn't play the game regardless and you'd look for something else to complain about.
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>>729963521
>repeatedly censored Mona and Rosaria
>then demand I roll for Shenhe, who has all of the stuff they just removed from the other two
It's been this way for four years.
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>>729964105
Never forget that they removed Shenhe's belly button.
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>>729963907
>Where's your sustain?
I do have Lauma c1, and having a solo onfield dendo means I could have her take like 90% ownership of the reactions pretty reliably. Then I could build Kokomi for full healing if I wanted to.
The only reason triple hydro didnt work before in like a Nilou Kokomi Yelan Nahida team is the self damage was much higher back then and Nahida is squishy as fuck.
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>>729958007
None of the weekly bosses are difficult no matter how long you've been playing. The only exception to this is potentially the Natlan boss if you're doing it before you actually unlock it through the story because you're expected to have the roided out Traveler to carry you through mechanics in case you don't have any Natlan characters.

It's all just a matter of learning boss mechanics and shitters can't do that. This goes all the way back to the days of 1.x. Did you ever do Azhdaha in co-op? It was always a bloodbath because retards never learn how to avoid basic shit. They just run up and start mashing buttons and never stop. I bet most of the people who complain about the Natlan boss don't even understand how the stacking debuff mechanic works and they complain about characters "randomly" dropping dead.
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>>729964161
if lauma can heal and you have nahida as well just ignore kokomi and go 2/2
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>>729964271
What?
As a dolphin player I STILL fucking hate the newest one.
The chess boss with the freeze weakness.
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>>729964145
True, but even after that, she still possesed the qualities that got gutted from Mona and Rosaria.
It was like stealing legos from another lego set. She had Rosaria's pre-nerf boobs, Mona's bodysuit, Rosaria's kit, etc.
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>>729964367
Possibly, havent really tried Lauma as the solo healer yet in a Nilou team.
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>>729964161
It's as the other anon said. The ideal Nilou team is 2 dendro 2 hydro.
Even if it feels that Nahida solo dendro would give her ownership of all reactions, what'll end up happening is that it's going to be split since Dendro consumes Hydro twice as fast, and Nahida's E hits immediately after the reaction, putting in the aura, and then one of the 3 hydros will clear it.

I'd suggest Nilou, Columbina, Lauma, Nahida in your case, with Bina on-field.
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>>729932768

Hmmmmmmmmm...
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>>729964516
Actually I disagree. Bina onfield would indeed give her all the reactions there..... but she wants HP, not EM. So you're going to get mid blooms.
Just slot in EM Kokomi and use Bina on another team lol.
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>>729963521
yeah let's pretend lauma doesn't exist
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>>729964516
>EM build Columina
Eww
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>>729928795
Until there's private servers with updated content, I won't touch this shit
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>>729964760
yeah I forgot, my bad. see >>729964651
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>>729964417
Chess boss is kind of annoying(especially if you're trying to play Circle Impact) but still not difficult. At worst you could say it's kind of restrictive because you're expected to include Hydro and Cryo but bosses favoring certain elements is nothing new. Azhdaha was making Ganyu/Hu Tao players cry back in 1.x.
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>>729964778
Private server coders intentionally don't get content working, that's how they've been avoiding cease & desists.
One chink got all the HSR story content working + Divergent Universe and he got mogged real fast.
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>>729928795
This wouldn't make me redownload but I'd actually respect them for going full waifuslop to the point that the men are now dressed like women
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>>729964651
>Just slot in EM Kokomi and use Bina on another team lol.
You dont understand, I must BLOOM
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>>729964901
>could have had a dancer skin for Lumine in Sumeru
>nothing
Will always be mad.
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>>729932767
I fucking love ocean floor levels but I'm not going to stoop to gacha shit to get my fix
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>>729964901
bloom?
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>>729964883
show me women that dress like flins
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I'd like to try one of these modern gachas, are all of them like botw or is genshin the only one that plays like that?
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>>729964951
Should have had a skin for every region honestly.
Heck, even give her a miner outfit for the Chasm and shit.
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>>729964901
based bloomer
as a c2 nilou/c2 nahida haver i can't roll for bina/lauma
i simply can't keep investing in bloomcoin when snez is around the corner and hoyo keeps inflating boss hp so that bloom isn't good anymore
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Can I PLEASE change the MC's gender? I picked Lumine at launch and still regret it. I want to be a twink surrounded by my harem, what was I thinking
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>>729965024
there have been some copies after genshin but they failed to capture the soul
if you do get into this game though, take things one at a time and don't get overwhelmed by 5 years of content
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>>729928795
Why is the man wearing a bikini?
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>>729965202
I think aether looks ridiculous trying to look cool
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Which genshin has the fattest rack?
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>>729965386
Lauma I guess
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>>729965202
you were probably thinking
>fuck this male mc looks like a faggot
>i'm gonna pick the cute girl so i don't have to look at this fag all day
i almost made that mistake too, but I knew picking aether was the correct choice considering that you get a cute sister that you have to save eventually and possibly join your harem
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>>729965446
which medium sized girl then?
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>>729965552
toss up between lanyan and varesa
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>>729963829
NTA but this is one of my biggest gripes with wuwa. I find it difficult to care about the characters when they rarely appear after their respective patches (until the finale). The most egregious example of this imo is when lupa got deleted from the story after her patch kek (I guess she stole iunos gimmick).
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>>729965024
wuwa, genshin. then TECHNICALLY tower of fantasy, but not really. also the new seven deadly sins that's coming out.

also infinity nikki
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>>729965480
Aether is Araki fashion coded.
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>>729965301
it's AI edited, anon.
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>>729965652
Sad that Varesa has 0 sex appeal. Lan Yan on the other hand, looks like she is very weak to ugly bastards.
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speaking of varesa i just heard her EN voice for the first time yesterday
what the fuck were they thinking?
she sounds just like a normal random woman, you can't differentiate between her, iansan or other EN female characters in the game
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>>729966490
en dub is bad???! no way
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>>729938926
Why do you retards think it's gatcha?
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>>729946472
>>729946264
>>729945719
Your filter is too fucking dark dude. What's wrong, computer screen hurt your eyes because you don't turn on any lights?
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>>729929032
Chinese gachas are unironically better than any western game released in the past 5 years
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>>729966490
didn't know there were any people still using EN voices after them being muted for like 2 years of american trannies protesting for their union when Genshin's a non-union gig.
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>>729938662
male wuwa mc is so fucking bland
hentai protag looking ass
black haired male with no personality but women want his dick
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I haven't logged in since that Roblox Wonderland horseshit. Has it been made optional yet? Can I uninstall that 10g of wasted space from my computer now?
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>>729966837
buy an external hard drive
how poor are you?
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>>729966837
I doubt it's more than 1GB, it reuses 99% assets.
You can remove updates for Miliastra Sandbox, which is the game maker.
You can also remove downloaded files for stages you've already played and don't plan on replaying.
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>>729966490
>what the fuck were they thinking?
>she sounds just like a normal random woman
And that's a good thing. I'm fucking tired of generic anime girl voice.
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>>729967146
play the superior cn dub then
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>>729967146
>I'm fucking tired of generic anime girl voice
but you're playing an anime game
why would you want a half cow anime girl with superpowers to sound like stephanie from down the street?
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>>729966257
Still gay.
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>>729932768
>Aether no longer running around with his twink midriff exposed, decent jacket
Shame that Genshin is a game where there is almost entirely ZERO reason to actively use the MC because they're actively dogshit mechanically, but at least people who chose Aether have a slightly cooler MC to look at. Luminefags haven't had anything to worry about on this particular front, the new outfit is just a little extra if they want it
...It really took THIS fucking long for them to give the Travelers some new threads, huh?
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>>729967260
I'm glad I'm not a fucking weeb who spergs out if a character doesn't have one of a small handful of typecast voices.
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>>729966934
I'm not buying an external hard drive to house the shitty components of a free to play gatcha game, fuck you.
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>>729967315
Electro/Hydro Traveler proves that miHoYo doesn't give a single fuck about the main character.
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>>729967315
>"a little extra"
She goes from wearing powder blue, gossamer white, and radiant gold, to a bunch of layers of shit brown. How is that extra?
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>>729963637
>I was a full sender because artifact rng was always my least favorite part of the game.
It is mine too. But it's still far better than HSR and other hoyolikes released afterwards.... because they tend to copy HSR's system actually.

WuWa felt very bad for me due to us being required to farm echoes in the open world (same drama as the ley lines earlier actually)... without stamina consumption. While some may see that freedom as a plus, I feel it as a definite negative since artifacts' sole reason to exist is to add grind during content droughts. Thus since you can grind for far more hours, the grind RNG has to be set much higher to account for this (So it can fulfill its job of keeping you entertained for X time per character).
And let's not talk about the tuner mess.

Anyway I don't want to bash WuWa, I don't like either game's artifact slop.
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>>729967376
and i'm glad i'm not a fucking npc that is satisfied with boring whores just reading lines off a script without giving any personality to their character
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>>729967406
i say getting one was worth it
you can have other games too
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>>729967636
All my other games fit on what I already have.
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>if a character isn't screeching with a shrill anime girl
voice then the VA is a fucking WHORE
Thanks for proving my point. Concession accepted. Give yourself the (You) because I know you want it.
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>>729967406
If it's shitty then why even consider playing it, just leave.
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>>729967552
Luminefags are being kindly presented a """""choice""""" of an extra outfit, if they so choose to use it. It's not even outright better than the defualt for her, it's just there as an extra choice, unlike what the Aetherfags had set before them
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Alright, I have a question to ask since there are clearly a few of you fucks who are still actively in the Genshin mines: are the skill book and weapon material domains still on a daily rotation? That was some of the shit that bothered me when I was still actively playing and contributed to my dropping the game back in Sumeru
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>>729968447
Yes
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>>729964593
I don't trust this man
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>>729932768
I actually love the ideas included in Aether's design and don't give a damn about the crop-top so I see both of these as a downgrade.
Aether's is a downgrade because it's just a more official-looking dress with some Khaenrian influence. Fine as a "what-if" Lumine stand-in but nothing special.
Lumine's is a downgrade because instead of reusing all the neat ideas of a pioneer/explorer outfit of Aether, it's literally just a paintjob of her old outfit.
Aether picks between a retro space explorer getup and Khaenrian prince suit.
Lumine picks between a princess dress and Aether princess dress.
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>>729968447
Yes kinda. At the start of every banner for 1 week every material will be available and same for the duration of 2x material events. Otherwise its the same.
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>>729964703
Which I don't understand because this(Lauma), and the cow girl(forgot her name) is fine, but Mona, Rosaria, etc. isn't? Devs can go fuck themselves.
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>>729929032
>frognigger unc here to tell you gacha bad
lmao
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>>729928795
>grok, put aether in a bikini
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>>729969114
>Devs can go fuck themselves.
It was some CPP official. The devs themselves actually posted 2 versions of the announcement/apology note because the first one could be read (and was) somewhat anti-career bureaucrats fucking with their game. Of course, bitching about the government is the one thing you cannot, under any circumstance, actually do publically in China so they took it down and uploaded an edited, toned down version a few minutes later.
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>>729928795
It was good on day 1
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>>729969424
Then they should leave China then and set up business somewhere else. They're losing more players with further censorship no matter who is at fault.
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>>729932767
they added underwater level because of my suggestion after i sending my feedback on how to improve the game if i ever get back after uninstalling
i told them to add diving in like in gothic 1&2 and to be more immersive. i guess they did add diving lol
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>>729969114
The original round of censorship was due to some feminist group who mass reported miHoYo for supposedly violating CCP guidelines.
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>>729932768
I'm not sure.
I'd have to see it in actual ingame cutscenes and play around with it in the overworld before I make a judgement.
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>>729969742
Should've executed that feminist rat when they had the chance.
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>>729965130
Why didn’t you pull for Lauma? I put her in with Nahida and Nilou.
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>>729928795
Every Gacha's endgame is absolute Cuckery of the Highest GRAND ORDER

Don't waste your time energy and money.

Just look what happened to the Fatefags
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>>729965130
c2 nahida and c2 nilou? your literally in the situation where it makes sense to get lauma as she actually stacks with them when they have cons.

although nothing crazy it got my Nilou Bloom teams blooms up to 125k per bloom single target and Lauma periodically can fire off a 200k+ hit even without building her for damage.
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>>729969651
>They're losing more players with further censorship no matter who is at fault.
They haven't had to censor anything since then. The reality of getting fucked by the state is that they are just random shows of force.
The team which got majorly fucked by government is Star Rail. Fuckers had a weeb planet lined up and CCP line going "Fuck Japan and everything Japanese" threw a fucking wrench in their face like 3-4 weeks before the patch livestream and marketing campaign was supposed to start.
We still don't know the exact damage but good lord, Ubisoft scraping Yasuke from AssCreed's main storyline must have been a cakewalk in comparison to the overtimes those fucks are currently going through.
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>>729928937
Genshi open world is too dead and empty. Skyrim has more interesting shit in open world.
Both games has the same design of "Five houses is a city" videogame trope that nobody break, not in modern hardware
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>>729969651
If Hoyo actually tried majorly relocating outside of China, they would find themselves disappeared and replaced with proper loyal CCP members. I don’t think you understand quite how highly CCP values Genshin. They have referred to it as a “key cultural export”.
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>>729969893
>>729970109
desu lunar reactions just feels too artificial
it feels like it will have no meaning past 6.x and I'm just not feeling the characters enough to invest
like the whole of nod-krai screams "filler" to me before the real shit happens in snez so i'm just saving my primos for no other reason than vibes
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>>729970532
lunar bloom isn't a real reaction, it is just Lauma doing a nuke every rotation.

Lauma does however buff regular bloom damage and that is real.
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>>729928795
Alright now I'm horny, thanks asshole >:(
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>>729932768
China bowed to Turkey
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>>729928795
Isn't one of these supposed to be a guy?
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>>729970980
Yes, and?
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>>729970980
yes loom has a fat futa cock if you consider futas to be guys
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>>729970917
nonbinari moment
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>>729970338
>Genshi open world is too dead and empty.
You're either retarded and haven't played the game or you've been playing too long and have forgotten how you can't move more than five feet without tripping over something to do in a fresh account's world.
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>>729970532
Lunar-Charged is a real reaction and it was designed to solve an inherent problem with Electro-Charged. Lunar Bloom essentially doesn't exist and it's just a resource for two characters to spend. Lunar Crystallize is a real reaction which actual team building potential but it's going to rely heavily on whatever buffs Zhongli ends up getting.
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>>729970079
>Just look what happened to the Fatefags
they've been eating shit for like a whole decade
don't act like the game is only now shit
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>>729956464
>cause i could not beat trounce domains

co-op, or ask someone to help carry you in your sig
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>>729959363
>i'm retarded and don't want others to know

millions of people play this game, anyone that helps you will forget you in 10 minutes or think you're just a young kid that doesn't know what they're doing
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>>729970532
Every region will have their gimmick.
You should invest if you want your current team to power through mechanics they were not supposed to fight against.
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wtf I thought the one on the right was a boy
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>>729943576
>genshin's combat is unrivaled!
>but what about all these flaws
>uhhhh doesn't count, I was talking about gacha games only, here look at this low-cost clear video (which every other gacha also has)
lol
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>>729969651
>with further censorship

what are you yapping about, the traveler skins are optional extra outfits
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>>729959363
just post your UID
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>>729959363
>but am still missing the "buy from someone else's traveling merchant"

just spam join requests until someone accepts then go to their teapot
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>>729970917
i wonder if the devs/china saw this?
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>>729966702
>shit is better than dogshit
You don't say.
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>>729972648
Nta but you were a dishonest metachurl and now you're being a dishonest faggot again.
He was right to invalidate your post.
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>>729972195
there just isn't a good reason to do multiplayer, Miliastra is alright but that is more if you already have the friends, i played a few games with my son and that was fun at least but not as fun as a dedicated game like Deep Rock Galactic.

most i use my friends list for is to let people add me for Imaginarium Theater borrowing characters back and forth, though my only noteworthy characters are my Neuvillette and Xilonen.
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>>729973245
it's easier to friend everyone
visit teapot directly if open
change ur signature to open teapot
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>>729974750
your lack of anything resembling an argument is duly noted
I don't even think genshin's combat is bad. It has cool parts and drawbacks. But it just has too many problems for the absurdly hyperbolic praise anon gave it. It's hardly a metachurl complaint to point out the ping-based character swapping in a combat system designed around swapping characters feels terrible. You don't need to follow any kind of meta to notice that over half of the reactions just aren't very good once you actually level up your characters and fight something somewhat hard, you just need a working pair of eyes.
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I'm upset this thread doesn't have any lewds of Aether
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What is the appeal of Genshin?
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>>729975427
it's like pokemon but you collect humans
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>>729975196
Play something else if you don't like it faggot
Or just put you're trip back on shin
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>>729975427
hot loom sex
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>>729975580
is the concept of someone playing a game they consider an 8/10 so alien to you, holy shit what a retard
not your tripfag bogeyman btw
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>>729928795
from what I've seen it's the objectively best gacha. I'm not interested though.
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GAME OF THE DECADE
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Genshin is a good free game to play casually if you like a massive open world, a safe predictable anime trope story and colorful anime graphics. The combat is deeper than it looks, but most of that is locked away behind limited units. Explore the world, do the story and events as they come out and get some waifus that you like and you'll have a good time.

The challenging endgame content is the trap, it's designed to be frustrating unless you have the latest characters, and the next batch will obsolete the ones you currently own. It's a miserable experience unless you're willing to spend money so you can both get your waifus and the newest characters. It didn't used to be this way from the launch of the game, so the old takes that you can clear anything with any units are literal lies now.
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>>729977403
>it's designed to be frustrating unless you have the latest characters, and the next batch will obsolete the ones you currently own

this is 100% nonsense
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>>729977403
>and the next batch will obsolete the ones you currently own.
This is wrong, Genshin devs are not as restrictive as they are with their other games.
During the Skirk shilling, for example, a character from 3 years old ago suddenly became the second most OP endgame meta character for that period.
Hell, even the vacuum Dendro meta became relevant again, my same Dendro team from three years ago suddenly breezed through the endgame without me changing a single piece of equipment.
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>>729966702
You gotta be an actual gambling addict ching chong to say this or your a basement dweller in his mom's basement
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>>729977754
name 10 good games
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>still mindbreaking /v/ even 5 years later

>>729976621
Fucking this
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>>729977634
Nah
>>729977652
The Skirk shilling was Escoffier shilling, if you didn't have her Ayaka was just as bad and powercrept as always. The purpose of my shitty review is to warn new players of what they're getting into. Most units are by definition outdated and powercrept because it's a 5 year old game, and a new player pulling for waifus will statistically end up with an account that is unable to clear endgame in 2025 Genshin. Cope all you want, that's the reality.
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>>729929167
>The exploration is good
>glide and dodge spam for miles
>some goons around a chest
>some tetris puzzle
>some jump&time challenge
easily the worst part, actually offensive in how bad it is
>>729938662
>horrendous chinkshit
>horrendous chinkshit but the cutscenes look nicer
You should all go die
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>>729978484
>1.x characters still being used and useful in end game content
>old characters are also now getting buffs

you haven't played for years if at all and are mindlessly repeating shit you've read
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>>729978484
>if you didn't have her Ayaka was just as bad and powercrept as always
Wrong, the Skirk shilling buff the end game stage for her, it included normal attack and burst damage including Cyro weak enemies, shame shit happen with Wriothesley shilling, Ayaka also getting the same benefit.
With Esco and Skirk you can clear End game with ungodly time, but with other Cyro teams you actually getting tons of extra buff that also benefit that team unless Skirk is s shitty plunge DPS then yes, the shilling won't work perfectly.
You can try to deny this all you want, but its obviously true since you avoid my statement Nod's Dendro shilling that actually help literally my old Sumeru team without changing any gears.
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>>729928795
Is this slop? Looks like slop.
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>>729978484
>>729977403
Then stop being autistic and caring about the endgame. The amount of gems you lose for not getting that last abyss star is not even half of a pull.
If you pull for a character because of her position in meta and not because you like her, you're an actual cuck.

This applies to all gacha, not just Genshin.
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>>729978484
>The Skirk shilling was Escoffier shilling
Since when Esco buff normal attack damage?
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>>729979236
winning is more fun than just playing favorites
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>>729978484
>Most units are by definition outdated and powercrept because it's a 5 year old game
Yet old characters are getting buffed?
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>>729979309
What funny most of old characters that getting buff are still in meta.
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>>729978484
>Nah
You are objectively wrong.
>The Skirk shilling was Escoffier shilling
You are objectively wrong.

I love it when shitters try to sound insightful but all they end up doing is exposing how bad they are at the game.
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>>729979285
Boy, I hope you are not playing JP gacha like Uma, it will drain your wallet.
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>>729979407
>What funny most of old characters that getting buff are still in meta.
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>>729979483
Escoffier effectively saved cryo. Like playing Skirk without Escoff is kinda miserable.
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>>729977403
I still play and enjoy Keqing and all my old characters.
Shame your retardation keeps you from enjoying video games and the simple things in life.
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>>729979581
Nigga, the only thing that saved Cyro is when they released Cyro banner, same shit with geo.
Why do you think Dendro became vacuum for a long time until Nodkrai? because they literaly shill the next banner with anything that hinder Dendro that literally the most OP reaction in the game during released by adding SHIELDKEKERY.
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>>729979407
Venti is the best anemo DPS right now, until Fuarka arrives
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>>729979581
>Like playing Skirk without Escoff is kinda miserable.
Not really. Skirk's optimal teams are so good that she's essentially in her own tier similar to Mavuika(except arguably even better because she has been able to trivialize at least one boss in just about every iteration of SO) and without Escoffier she's pretty much on par with other top characters.
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>>729979654
Wrio banner didn't save shit when he came out. Escoffier was a desperately needed cryo support. Anything else would be dead in the water, because another DPS does nothing.
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>>729979654
That's how every gacha game is trending to nowadays. Since shilling is an effective way to make you buy characters/weapons and they don't need to powercreep as hard.

The characters aren't powercrept, but if you want to use them against mechanics that hinder them, you're going to need to invest vertically.
It's up to you whether or not you fall for this trap to get you to spend.
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Wuwajeet don't bother no one is going to quit Genshin for your kusoge no matter how much you larp as a bitter ex Genshin player.
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>>729979660
Even after he releases Venti is still going to be useful because they stopped making every fucking enemy weigh a thousand pounds. It's been surprisingly fun playing him as an on-fielder.
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>>729979791
And then now they add enemies that need Hydro and Electro reaction, suddenly esco team became useless and not having god time under one minute again or sometime failed due to another bullshit mechanic, people resulting to old 1.0 team with Fisch and Xing.
Wrio doesn't saved shit, the stage buff saved cyro you DUMB FUCK!
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>>729979884
>And then now they add enemies that need Hydro and Electro reaction, suddenly esco team became useless and not having god time under one minute again or sometime failed due to another bullshit mechanic
You mean like when they threw the Lunar-Charged shill boss in SO and Skirk was the only character who could brute-force without whale level investment?
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>>729973478
Yes. DaWei got scared Pooh Bear would see it and think Homoverse was actually promoting fags, so he immediately ordered the devs to give Aether an actual male outfit to get the CCP off his ass.
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I don't even remember the last time I got 36 stars in abyss. I just grab 33* and leave.
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>>729980053
Post me the youtube link so I can laugh at her clear time and how much money he throw and that character so he can clear it.
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these wuwajeets sure are going to start crying when tune break shilling starts in endgame. They'll have to find some other way to badmouth Genshin, HSR and ZZZ
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>>729980130
People were doing it with c0r1. You're retarded and wrong. Concession accepted.
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>>729980102
Most people surely can, they just lazy to read the boss mechanic.
Back then people just smash everything until it died.

I got one friend who called the game P2W while fighting the mexican hat guy, just to see him keep hitting the wrong hats.
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>>729980184
Post it then, the burden of proof is in you.
>You are wrong
At what part? I literally said "suddenly esco team became useless and not having god time under one minute again"
Sure, he can brute force it now, but can he do it just like during her shilling banner? under 30 or 20 seconds?
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>>729980343
>retard says something objectively wrong
>gets called out for it
>attempts to shift the burden of proof
Damn you're pathetic. Concession remains accepted.
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>>729928795
Genshin has only served one purpose, which is killing Aonuma's vision of the Zelda franchise.
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>>729928795
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>>729981448
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>>729981286
LMAO, sure. I conceded when talking with retard like you.
You could just post your own Skirk clear against the Lunar-charged Shilling bosses, but you won't because you have nothing to prove.
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>>729977754
Why? Gachas aren't just gambling you know. And in most of them you can completely ignore that part.
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>>729979841
How is Genshin even remotely close to any Zelda game?
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>>729981662
they copied like how the map looks and a few animations thats it
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>>729981662
1.x was very, very heavily influenced by BotW but Genshin gradually became its own thing with every major update.
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>>729981662
Original 1.0 Mondstadt had a lot of similarities to Breath of the Wild. The environment, the gliding, the minigames to get the map collectables, etc.

Liyue was a bit better, but the Zelda copy namecalling only started settling down after Dragonspine and Inazuma released.
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>>729979532
le universal battery + unparalleled off-field electro app face
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>>729979532
>>729982603
Sorry but the AI is better than her in every single way
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>>729981889
>1.x was very, very heavily influenced by BotW
How? Aside from the fact that they both are open world and have grass in it, there's literally no similarities.

>>729981997
>The environment
Explain
>the gliding
There's like a billion games with gliding that came out before botw
>the minigames to get the map collectables
Example? I don't think there's anything similar to the Korok seeds in Genshin, and oculi also don't have any parallel.

I'm convinced that people that say this have never played both games.
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>>729982909
Name a billion games that have gliding
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Speaking of BOTW I recalled the initial tendie chimpout. Good times.
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>>729964593
Yeah I saw that too.
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>>729982909
>How? Aside from the fact that they both are open world and have grass in it, there's literally no similarities.
You have to be disingenuous. And I play Genshin since day one.

1. Climbing works exactly the same.
2. Gliding and swimming works the same
3. Noelle had Daruk's Protection, Venti's E is Revali's Gale
4. Dendro Slimes work exactly like the grass octorocks where they go underground and fire smokes them out.
5. Balloon puzzles for bow & arrow are in both games.
6. Dancing enemy encampments, archer towers with convenient explosions
7. Hilichurls are just bokoblins
8. Cooking ingredients to make healing and buffing items. Healing characters were extremely scarce at the start of the game.
9. Early Genshin domains that were actual dungeons vs BotW shrines
10. The fucking domain music in Monstadt is clearly the BotW Guardian theme.

And many many more.
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>>729982909
>there's literally no similarities.
Come on anon. A vast majority of chests in 1.0 were acquired through puzzles lifted straight from BotW. Hilichurl camps are fundamentally the same as Bokoblin camps. Traversal was basically lifted from BotW. Genshin wore its influence on its sleeve at launch.
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>>729936845
The limited events you missed are (mostly) pointless.
The endgame is a total waste of time that only exists to justify the gacha system. People roll to get characters to build teams to play the endgame so they can get currency to roll more characters to... play the endgame.
If you are interested in the story and world exploration, just play it, you don't need to spend money or anything, you can literally beat the whole game with free characters, so can just roll the gacha occasionally with the free currency you have to get some gameplay variety.
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>>729938662
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>>729929032
fpbp
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>>729982909
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XweXKUZEeM4
>I'm convinced that people that say this have never played both games.
I don't think you've played both games yourself.
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>botw invented running
>botw invented swimming
>botw invented gliding
>botw invented enemies
>botw invented puzzles
>botw invented dungeons
>botw invented healing items
>I play genshin btw
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>>729938662
why are they using Mavuika for their collabs
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>>729984261
Oddly passive-aggressive post. They were extremely similar at launch aside from the combat. Everyone except for you seems to acknowledge this.
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>>729928795
>live-service gacha
It definitionally cannot be good. If they ever release a content-complete retail-priced version, then we'll talk.
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>>729929032
I... I can't argue with this
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>>729982796
CLANKER
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>>729982796
5* means i'm never getting her
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>>729987093
She's rerunning next banner though
And you'll get enough primos for like 60 rolls alone in the first half of the next patch. Don't know if you're caught up but if you aren't you likely have even more rolls available.
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>>729928795
first gacha that i still play to this day.
try wuwa for a couple month then quit cuz i didn't like the story however the flying exploration is nice.
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>>729975427
Cute Loom sex
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>>729929032
It's so nice having the freedom to play actual good games whenever the fuck I want and not be chained to dailies or login rewards or codes or freebies or banners or whatever the fuck like a fucking slave. Third worlders just cannot escape slave mentality huh
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No.
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Columbina!
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>>729990605
Based
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what's Bina's best cope weapon?
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>>729990763
depends on what you're using her for

I've seen fav codex, prototype amber and widsith
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>>729990605
>>729990739
cunnybina when?
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>>729932768
dont care about the twink
lumines color pallete was perfect before with the gold/white, the brown she has now ruins everything
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>>729932768
>>729993282
also i miss her gloves, she looks naked without them
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>>729977403
>It didn't used to be this way from the launch of the game, so the old takes that you can clear anything with any units are literal lies now.
there are 36* clears of any abyss with launch 4*s
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>>729966795
Yup the faggot is so bland you could replace him with random mc from random a manhwa
at least FemMc is cute and dresses like slut



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