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HABBENING!!!!

>he is in discussions with various Triple-A studios to talk about bringing his characters and setting to life.

WHO
SHOULD
IT
BE?
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no one has any idea who this is or what mistborn is, but from that picture, I can tell it looks like gay fem protag slop.
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literally who
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>>729930512
sanderson has never made a good book
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>>729930535
>>729930541
He's an author of a kino book series


He's also a gamer with kino taste
10. Katamari Damacy

9. Undertale

8. Fallout: New Vegas

7. Super Mario World

6. The Curse of Monkey Island

5. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

4. Halo 2

3. Final Fantasy X

2. Bloodborne

1. Civilization VI

is his top10
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>>729930667
>1. Civilization VI
>is his top10
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>>729930595
This, his novels are all derivative YAslop. A real kino untapped adaptation would be Thomas Covenant Dragonriders of Pern
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>>729930667
all cringe
op is a faggot
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>>729930512
>Close
He says he keeps pitching it and no studios want it.

Did you even read the fucking article you linked you double retard?
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>>729930667
how do you have taste this bad
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>>729930803
>Thomas Covenant
That would be absolute dogshit and you know it. Even the people who like those books will tell you that it's fine to hate them. Here's some real Kino for you
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I had to watch this man rape WoT right in front of me. Now he's back, as I knew he would be.
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>>729930512
Kemco.
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>>729930512
Remember when he was malding about FromSoft reaching out to GRRM and not him to write the story of Elden Ring?
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>>729930667
>botw
>bloodborne
>SMW

So, if this person is working on a video game, it'll be a soulslop open world ubisoftshit bing bing wahoo abomination
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>>729930870
>female author
>NTR ending
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>>729930667
why is it when people make a top 10 list it's always a bunch of different genres
i just don't believe it
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>>729930946
>it'll be a soulslop open world ubisoftshit bing bing wahoo abomination
That is unironically a very apt description of Sanderson's work.

>>729930959
Fine anon, how about this? Isekai but for the thinking man
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>>729930924
wtf is this fucking slop??
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>>729930959
it's very well written tho and I cried when Molly died.
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>>729930924
Marvel quips the book?
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>>729930924
Oh funny timing I just finished a WoT reread and jesus christ the Sanderson books were bad in retrospect.
Trying to be fair since Im sure he inherited RJs schizo notes and had to scramble but its so obvious what was Sandersons shit

>His fucking OC Ashaman whose super smarter with weaves doing things no one else can
>Dear god all of Mats dialogue
>Actually scratch that dear god Talmanes' dialogue
>Him just fucking the development of random characters for no reason
He really is the Joss Whedon of writers.
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>>729930667
>kino book series
It's the most mediocre cookie-cutter milquetoast garbage slop you could possibly read. Completely inoffensive in the worst sense of the word. The best thing you can say about Sanderson is that he writes on time and knows enough that his stories aren't complete dogshit, but they have nothing else going for them.
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I instantly lose respect for anyone who shills shit from this guy
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>>729931083
Sanderson has the James Cameron talent of being very good at structuring, action and understanding the lowest common denominator.
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>>729930924
And he didn't speak up when the series got Rafed on Amazon, instead just going with the "different turn of the wheel" copout. I hope he gets a terrible and unfaithful video game adaptation, it's what that disloyal pussy deserves.
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>>729930512
>>729930667
Isn't this guy a fat feminist?
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>>729930512
Are you my female friend who loves this series, shilling about it on /v/? Heh.
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>>729931081
How dare you besmerk the best writer of thie era
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You know you are a shit writer when even penny arcade used to make fun of you
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>>729930667
I feel like he just googled popular games for each platform
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>>729930512
Ok but what genre?
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>>729930512
It's the one where people consume metals to get power, right? The setting could be cool for a game I guess.
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>>729931198
People were absolutely furious over this, it's hilarious.
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>>729931161
>Jordans wife shit on the tv series from the first episode calling it an abomination
>Sanderson was a giant fag saying "its not that bad"
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>>729931198
DICKWOLF RAPE IN REMOTE VILLAGES!
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>>729930512
Anons love to shit on this guy but when I read the Stormlight books I enjoyed them, the big climatic action scenes he writes are kino.
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>>729931098
Jesus, that is obnoxious as fuck.
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>>729931461
Obnoxious, like a mosquito.
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>>729931405
That's because he is popular and popular= bad.
This website is moved and will always be moved by contrarianism.
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>>729931405
The first 2 are good, the rest are marvel-tier garbage.
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>>729931519
Popular, like a beloved idol
Contrarian, like a rebellious teenager
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>>729931594
>>729931510
don't start this, please
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>>729931594
Alright which of the two people speaking are smart sassy women?
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>>729930512
I have read the first book.
It was THE most generic fantasy I have ever read.

Might do well as a game though who knows.
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Why do we hate Sanderson, again?
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>>729931287
The media really downplayed her reaction when the show was aired but played up his neutral cowardice bullshit. He could have spoken up. He could have demanded his name be removed from the shitshow. But apparently, becoming an infinitely rich bastard while finishing someone far more influential's book series destroys your backbone. Mormon Jesus is doubtless disappointed.
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>>729930512
Brandon needs non western devs to adapt his books
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>>729931758
I'm sure YOU don't hate Sanderson, you isekai gobbling harem litrpg lover
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>>729931838
Isekai harem trash manga lover here.
I hate Sanderson because he writes trash like I enjoy but hes such an autistic weirdo sexless mormon feminist that it sucks any fun out of whatever retarded power fantasy series hes writing.
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>>729931838
>you isekai gobbling harem litrpg lover
No.
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>>729930989
because people try a bunch of different games to see what they like. and when they do find what they like, they play that when they want those types of games. how do you even decide 10/10s when they are all the same genre? you can't compare them to each other without taking them down. 10 different genres can be amazing at 10 different things though, without directly competing
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>The only 3D depiction of Mistborn in any way is FORTNITE
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>>729930512
Sanderson fucked up the ending of Wheel of Time with his shitty, melancholy writing and I won't support anything he does.
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>>729930870
End of the first trilogy I barely felt as if the story had started. Holy kino! On to the next trilog-
>Completely different story abandoning all of the previous systems
Welp, glad I stopped
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>>729932105
He's gonna fuck up ASOIAF too when grrm acks
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>>729930667
>9. Undertale
stopped reading there. Shite taste
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My parents got these for me for Christmas because they miss when I read books more can you guys stop stalking me?
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>>729931758
We hate Brandon Sanderson because r/worldbuilding redditors praise him as the second coming of Tolkien when he's an admittedly very efficient hack who churns out pulp fantasy novels like a robot, with robotic plots, prose, and themes. There is nothing overly bad about him, just as there is nothing good about him either.
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>>729930959
What was that one fantasy book by a female author that an anon was blowing up about way back when? It was like, the protagonist had a female tomboy love interest throughout multiple books, then in the last book she fucks some guy, only to realize she loves the protagonist after all, and she and the MC end up together.
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>>729931098
Wind and truth was truly painful to read for the most part, that's not even nearly as bad as it got either.
>"BUT STAND. KALADIN. DID."
Don't even get me started on the immortal millennia old dead inside guys starting to use modern day earth slang either, if I wasn't so sunk cost I'd have dropped the book the moment nalan used the word 'yeah.' The whole experience was all the more painful coming fresh from a first reading of dune with herbert's much more expedient and dense prose and his willingness to outright skip irrelevant time wasting parts of the narrative to get to the point.
>>729930512
Unless it's a japanese or korean studio it won't matter, the west can't make satisfying character action games and that's what mistborn would need.
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>>729931758
I have no fucking clue. He's not tolkien or asimov or herbert but who the fuck is? He slings forgettable shallow pulp in significant quantity, but I'd give anything he pushes a real shot. I'd trust him over say Taash.
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Speaking of RJ
>I don't think that a bad movie would do the books any damage, but with any movie, the writer of the book has to give up control to someone else and trust that other person to interpret the writer's vision. (God, that sounds pompous!) I used to think that it might be impossible for a movie to really encompass any of the books, but since seeing The Lord of the Rings, I've changed my mind. In any case, Harriet says (and Plato agrees with her) that the only thing to do when you sell a book to Hollywood is to take the money, walk away very fast before they can take it back, and never, ever go to see the movie.

Prophetic lol
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>>729932443
Elantris was interesting imo.
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>>729931283
>2013
They were writing this in their mid 30s which is around the time the average person begins to view fictional literature as beneath because they are unable to allow themselves to engage with it on a deep personal level anymore. It's the age where all the things you used to like become baked in as the only things you're even willing to try, but even then you can't love them the way you used to.

Also bald.

Sanderson is shit btw Mistborn was wank and in way of kings all the characters start flying around having DBZ battles
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I hope this fat faggot dies from horrible cancer.
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>>729932479
I think I hate Robert Jordan more than any other authors out there. His books are a nightmare world of gender hatred, and I'm 100% sure he had a terrible relationship with his mother and wife.
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>>729931618
he pleaded, wringing his collar like a man wringing his collar
>>729931985
You can only decide 10/10s when deciding amongst games from the same genre.
>This mechanic is revolutionary!
>Genre staple present in 90% games and being done better in 80% of which they've played none
How do you even know what you're feeling is 10/10? How do you even know it's pushing the limits of the genre if you don't know anything about the genre? How do you know you only don't expect better because you don't know better?
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>>729930512
>muh your magic have to be retarded rocket science that no one but autists give a shit about
This guy ruined fantasy genre.
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>>729932557
YWNBAW
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Why make it anime? A bunch of western books have been made into anime, and his stuff is shonen slop.
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What do anons think about Joe Abercrombie
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>>729932557
RJ was giga based.
Literally one of the chillest dudes ever who fucking loved going on forums and shooting the shit with fans.
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>>729930512
>Mistborn
Legitimately fucking awful. I am very stubborn about finishing books once I start them and even then I came within a bee's dick of dropping it like the hot garbage it was. Utterly baffling how much praise it gets.
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>>729932660
*Why not make it anime. Meant to say that.
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>>729932571
because ive tried different games in a genre, and have decided that one specific game belongs on my ark, while the other games in a genre may as well not exist because i have the perfect game in the genre and would literally never play anything else
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>>729932662
Edgy, fun twist with the wizard then I didnt really remember much from the rest of the series.
Had no idea hes still churning out books
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>>729932660
>>729932712
>Wants a movie
>Wants a vidya
Seems like he has a type
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>>729930512
the chinese room
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>>729932660
Dont think hes popular enough in japan to get a studio to do it.
He could strongarm a netflix animated like the shitty DMC/Castlevania/Dota
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>>729930667
>kino taste
>literally a top 10 reddit list
lmao
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He's tried three separate developers in the past for a Mistborn game.

Also the Cosmere will never be complete.
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>>729932923
OPs retarded, article states hes approached a bunch of different companies and no ones accepted.
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>>729930512
I think the only book I've read from this author was about librarians. I never liked how anime the ending was.
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>>729930512
I do like how he's a gamer, but his work comes off as just typical pulp fantasy.

I do love my fantasy slop, but I am already deep enough in WOT.
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Is Way of Kings good? Also, read Malazan if you want a proper fantasy series.
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>>729930512
who?
what?
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>>729930541
The worst fantasy writer on the planet. Probably uses AI to shit out a new book every two weeks. They all suck.
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>>729933270
No. Just like all Shitterson books the series starts kinda interesting but then it goes full retard and you are left wondering how silly the whole thing is.
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>>729930512
Is he even popular enough for triple A studio to give a shit about? He is literally who to normalfags
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>>729933270
The first books fine
Second books slightly worse
Third books when everyone dropped it because it gets really fucking bad, and somehow Im told the 5th books somehow worse.
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>>729932501
I can't say I remember it beyond vague whining about politics and a lost empire and religion. LOL. Counting it as forgettable. Still I don't remember it being shit. Also not sure if it would make a good game setting.

>>729931161
I don't think his shit is good enough to warrant a close adaption. A loose one might be better anyways.


Pic vaguegly related, from Fiest.

>>729931163
Fat mormon feminist soft boy. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing. Not everyone can be fucking hardcore.

>>729931405
I can't remember it beyond the ten? 12? surge powers. Still generic pulp. I would check out a game based on that.

>>729932662
Can't remember what he made that I saw. Maybe that cartoon about robots? Was good.
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>>729932218
Slap your retarded parents in the face.
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>>729933432
He's not female or brown enough like the Unknown 9 people. Maybe he needs to prove he's a draw at the AA level, ala Metro, Stalker, Witcher. I mean cyberpunk is a literally who to the normies, but he has the advantage to guess who that he's black.
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Reminder that he made 42 million dollars on a kickstarter. He is immenesely popular.
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>>729932571
Anon tugged xer braid while writing this
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>>729931287
Based. WoT tv series was total shit. I can't ever forgive the Jews for making Two Rivers fucking India.
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>>729930512
>AAA studio
If he thinks he’ll have any better luck wrangling them than he did Amazon when they fucked up wheel of time, he’s in for a very rude awakening.
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>>729931287
Did she really? I remember she was calling everyone who hated the early preview shit racist
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>>729932428
For me it was when Odium said
>I may have overdone it a smidge
It was like being sprayed with ice water in a sauna
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>>729932501
Was just "Oh I am soooo oppressed" for most of the book, just like Way of Kings. Dude wants to be Orson Scott Card so bad.
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>>729931758
Hate’s a strong word, but he’s just never improved his craft.
He’s always had a commendable work ethic and ability to conjure new worlds, but he has never worked on his prose, his characters have been getting worse over time and his editor either changed or has just given up telling him no.
Sure you can argue that it’s been working out for him, but you could also argue that his strategy of maximising audio book appeal and simply being almost the only prominent fantasy writer actually fucking writing has done more for his success than the quality of his work.
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> never ever
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>>729932571
>like a man wringing his collar
Like a man wringing his noose.*
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Why was the ruler in mistborn such a fucking asshole?
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>>729931758
cause he's a fag and his list's >>729930667
all retarded
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>>729934571
So he could do the cliche
>ACTUALLY HE WAS BEING AN ASSHOLE TO PROTECT US FROM AN EVILER FORCE
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>>729930667
>10. Katamari Damacy
good
>9. Undertale
shit
>8. Fallout: New Vegas
good
>7. Super Mario World
shit
>6. The Curse of Monkey Island
good
>5. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
shit
>4. Halo 2
good
>3. Final Fantasy X
good
>2. Bloodborne
good
>1. Civilization VI
wtf why?
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>>729934440
Man imagine how badly any modern studio would fuck up the Clayr
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>>729934675
that really doesn't happen as often as you would think
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>>729934728
Sure it does
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>>729934728
That was the plot to E33
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>>729934675
Wasn’t it more that he was getting METZENED and slowly going insane after he fucked up the first well’s power surge?
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>>729931118
James Cameron's last good movie was Titanic.
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>>729930512
>he is in discussions with
that almost always means it's not happening

also Sanderson is a fucking hack, he gets shit done but his prose and dialogue is awful
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>>729932662
His books suffer from making EVERYONE unlikable.
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>have to live in a hotel room for a while
>be at a book shop with a friend
>fuck it, just pick a book based on feel
how bad did i fuck up?
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>>729931287
Tbf Sanderson really didn't say good things about it as well, his reaction was basically shrugging and laughing when people called it bad to his face.

I can understand that he wouldn't want to blow his shot at a live-action adaptation by insulting the very people he's trying to convince to produce his own work while letting him keep creative control. Especially since everyone was already dogpiling on the show so it's not like his opinion would've changed anything
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>>729934440
For me it was the Keys to the Kingdom. I always wanted to read Sabriel but never got round to it, and now I'm too old.
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>>729934076
For me it's when he reveals the best moment of the book (Odium destroying his city and killing his family to make a point) was faked. Pissed me right off.
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>>729935186
Don't make excuses for him. He could have actually spoken out against the show and he didn't. As the only living author of the series unfortunately, him speaking out would have greatly delegitimized the coordinated media operation to convince viewers that the show wasn't a bastardized pile of shit, which helped the show go on for several seasons.

And if he was prioritizing his own "chances" with Amazon/Hollywood/whatever by not speaking out against it, fuck him. He's an immoral piece of shit who stood by and did nothing, and he deserves nothing. If you don't stand for something you love, you don't stand for anything.
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>too violent and bleak for kids
>too sexless and sanitized for adults
>author ruined the setting by doing time skips forward to less interesting eras with more advanced technology
Being a fan of the edge chronicles is suffering. The art is so cool though
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>>729935676
I disagree with the notion that he should've spoken up given he had no hand in the adaptation at all (that I know of), and the series focused on the starting books for obvious reason, so he had no hands in the material getting adapted either.

I understand your point of view but ultimately I don't think he had any more legitimacy to speak about the show than anyone else, and in fact I'd have been disappointed if he tried to pose himself as a WoT authority for the books he wrote zero words in. Plus, again, the show was clearly dead and buried pretty early on so nothing he could've done would have tipped the balance either way.
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>>729935872
The time skips were mostly a way to onboard new readers of the demographic without them getting overwhelmed by the sheer volume of books, while also not having to cater to those aging out of the series.
It was honestly a pretty smart strategy that more YA authors should have adopted.
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>>729935937
>he had no hands in the material getting adapted either.
>he tried to pose himself as a WoT authority for the books he wrote zero words in
They hired him to do exactly that though
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>>729936061
Ah well, nevermind then, I did not like the dude very much anyway
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The reason people keep turning him down is because he wants 100% creative control but has zero experience doing any of the work that would entail.
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Sex with Vin
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I should become a YA fantasyslop writer. Then maybe I can get a game out of it someday.
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>>729936104
The to be fair to that would be them just ignoring anything he says.
Which is likely what happened honestly.

I still say fuck him though
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>>729932662
I love the first trilogy and Best Served Cold, haven't read past them yet.
The first book in the trilogy was kind of weak, but that fact that he planned out every little thing in the trilogy before writing them makes the whole thing come together brilliantly.
His worldbuilding is a bit weak but it's also not his focus so he doesn't waste your time with it.
>>729935125
I entirely disagree. I think he is good at making his characters actually relatable, doing good things but being jerks or having some other flaw. Or maybe actually being a good person but still being flawed and selfish in some ways.
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I stopped reading stormlight.
Did MC fuck his fairy or is the author still shipping him with the social autist cunt?
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>>729936179
The only people who read YA books nowadays are 35 year old women
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>>729936226
>Did MC fuck his fairy
Never going to happen
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>>729936274
That explains why so much of it is hardcore pornography.
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>>729936202
I have not read all of his books, only the same trilogy you had mentioned and aside for Glokta not a single character in it had been likable. They were either retards, assholes, cowards or conniving psychopaths. Bayaz was based, but he too was a piece of shit. There wasn't a single moral or virtuous character in the entirety of it, except maybe for Glokta's friend, that ends up dying a slow and humiliating death in the end.
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>>729936327
I feel vindicated in dropping it then.
Literally how do you have a fairy companion to the MC that mogs every other girl in the book by a genuine comical amount then pick anyone else as his woman.
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>>729931287
Jordan's wife only ever said good things about the show and she condemned the haters as racists. Even Sanderson turned on it by the end of season 1 and streamed his reaction to it where he was visibly disgusted. How dare you make up such a stupid lie and make me respond in Sando's defense
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>>729936342
And even West was an angry drunk who beat the shit out of his sister
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>>729935937
Anon, his name was literally on the show, in the credits. He was hired as a consultant so they could pretend the adaptation was in any way authentic beyond some names and loose adaptations of events. Him speaking out would have been a huge deal, but he was too much of a pansy ass bitch boy to stand up for what he believed in. He was given the chance to make a difference in a way that would have mattered, and he pussied out. And that's why every adaptation of anything he's worked on forever deserves to be a piece of shit, just like him.
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>>729936410
Yeah, but that was basically the least worst, considering that every other character in that story was basically a serial killer.
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>>729936342
Surely you at least found Dogman likable damn.
>>729936410
That's what I mean where I think the writing is actually good. West does mostly good things but of course he has a few flaws. But I'd argue he is still likeable. And even if you did remove those flaws he would just be a boring ass unrealistic perfect gentleman character.
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>>729936518
I don't even remember any of the mr Barbarian's friends, especially given the way he ends up treating them. He should have died at the end of the trilogy, I would have considered it a just comeuppance and a fitting conclusion to his character arc.
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>>729930512
I read the first Mistborn book because cunts here couldn't stop shilling for the series and it fucking sucked.
So I would recommend Bioware to adapt it.
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Read Lord of the Mysteries.
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Vidya adaptation when?
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>>729936578
I found them to be pretty memorable.

>Black Dow eulogizing Tul Duru when he knows that Logen killed him
>Three Trees arriving just in time to fight The Feared
>Black Dow just randomly burning down a house after killing a family
>Dogman cucking West
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>>729936675
oh no no no
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>>729936578
I think him not dying was fine, considering he still has a unilaterally unhappy ending. Hell, dying would probably have been better.
But yeah Dogman was the other north pov who was generally a good guy, the worst thing I think he really did during the story was cuck West but that was entirely West's fault anyway.
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warhorse studio could do that one if they one to do medieval fantasy
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>>729936773
>considering he still has a unilaterally unhappy ending

uh anon, you haven't read Red Country yet?
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>>729936612
Only one good author has been recommended to me by 4chan and his name is Bakker.
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>>729936794
See
>>729931013
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>>729936703
I think Abercrombie just had an allergy to writing people that weren't murderous psychopaths, so anyone that wasn't one ended up being killed by someone that was.
>>729936675
Look up Breeders of the Nephelym?

>>729936773
I did find West's complaint over being called "too angry" hilarious, but it was an accurate portrayal of a female mind, so I'll hand it to Abercrombie for that. She would fuck basically every murderer in the group because they made her feel good, but one man that was genuinely decent she would cuck because he gave her the 'ick.
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>>729936779
I tried to get into this and it put me to sleep.
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>>729936794
Been reading Wolfe recently and his stuff is good.
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>>729936364
>then pick anyone else as his woman.
Whoever said anything about him doing that?
Kaladin getting shafted out of personal happiness all the time was one of the things that got very grating in books 4 and 5.
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>>729936837
>but it was an accurate portrayal of a female mind
She did watch him chew a dude's nose off his face then kill the crown prince.
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>>729936862
I understand, the beginning is very boring because it's hard to understand wtf is going on, but half way through it all click together and it becomes a lot better.
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>>729936703
I haven't, I know he's alive but at least in the context of the trilogy his ending was very unhappy.
struck out with Ferro, Black Dow takes over the north (sucks), still stuck as a lunatic, probably would be happier dead, realized Bethod might have genuinely been a better person than him, got completely used by the wizard
>>729936837
>but one man that was genuinely decent she would cuck because he gave her the 'ick.
Not to mention he literally JUST killed her wouldbe rapist
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>>729936703
>>729936952
Sorry meant to tag >>729936786 instead
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>>729936952
I have to disagree, I think Black Dow is hilarious and it plays very well in The Heroes.
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>>729936675
Ah Morning Glory Milking Farm, reminds me of this video
https://youtu.be/U882Z8g9UWg
I've got no problem with woman, or guys for that matter reading smut, but I'm a firm believer that a bit of shame in society isn't a bad thing. I'm a weirdo on some things, but my coworkers don't know about it, nor do my parents or most of my friends. The whole Romantasy crowd seems to have absolutely no shame about how degenerate they are, and will happily share that fact with others. It doesn't really help anyone getting taken seriously or help conveying your political message, so when you get a video about porn being about Marxist, you really aren't helping the cause when 90% of said book is just a setup for a woman sucking bull cock.
Then there is the more personal side to it that honestly is a little sad, many readers of those books will be feminists, you know that kind of feminists. Those books are generally the most basic female fantasy of "Big bad monsters kidnapping/abusing/hurting poor innocent woman, then they both fall in love and she fixes the monster and he turns into a tender lover that will provide and defend the woman" which isn't that strange of a fantasy, but it's an extremely gender norm coded fantasy. So you have people extremely critical of gender norms, calling all men abusive thrash, having fantasies of being dominated by hypermasculine guys... It isn't surprising at all, but how do these people hope to have an happy sex life when a good deal of their personality is about being opposed to anything remotely masculine then wanting to be railed by a jacked 6'5" dude who will treat them like thrash? Romantasy really feels like a bunch of lonely women discovering porn 70 years after dudes and not quite yet understanding what it all means.
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>>729936952
You should seriously check out The Heroes and Red Country. The Heroes especially is one of his best works, pure northmen vs union kino with some incredible sequences.
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>>729936929
The crown prince was basically GoT's movie Joffrey, anyone sane would have wanted him dead. But good point about the nose, true enough.

>>729936952
You'd think she would be grateful for it, right? Not like the stories at all.
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>>729937086
I definitely will, I just read the first 4 books relatively recently and wanted to take a small detour to not overdo it.
I know it's not as popular and it's probably not as good but I'm also excited to see what he did with the 2nd trilogy.
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>>729930667
Buy an ad.
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>>729937037
Women are very retarded, simple as
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>>729930512
is that a black female? why would i play that?
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>>729936634
I did, it's kino.
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take the malazan pill /v/
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>>729937221
IIRC the lower classes all have grey skin in that series.
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>>729930512
Obviously
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>>729937237
I took a better pill.
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>>729937237
why does that one dinosaur have a club
also why is there dinosaurs
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>>729937335
Malazan is a trip, too bad you have to sit through the first book which is shit and everyone you like dies.
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>>729930535
fpbp
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>>729937362
As long as it's shit for the purpose of setting up greatness I can live with that.
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>>729937279
Truth shines.
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>>729930667
I would rather see Madden and call of duty
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book thread? sure
/v suggested me this it was a good read.
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>>729930512
As an ESL who wants to one day write a fantasy book, I've got Way of Kings lying around waiting to be read and I guess study it? I cant bring myself to actually start though.
Should I read Patrick Rothfuss instead? I also bought Name of the Wind
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>>729937335
they are high tech dinosaurs
>Its brain was significantly larger than that of humans, with six more lobes (which Samar Dev thought implied intelligence), positioned beneath heavy ridged projections out to the sides, including two extra vessel-packed masses connected by tissue to the eyes (which Samar Dev thought suggested that the K'Chain Nah'ruk saw a different world, a more complete one, perhaps)
>It had three stomachs, with digestive acids in them corrosive enough to dissolve iron. Samar Dev even found mechanical 'worms' the length of an index finger in its stomachs, made of some metal which was impervious to the acids — mechanisms which served some unknown purpose, but were surely (Samar Dev felt) to the creature's benefit
>The K'Chain Nah'ruk were noted for their binding of sorcery with mechanical devices. The most well known of their inventions were their massive, floating Skykeeps such as Moon's Spawn.

See those lightning bolts? That’s what the club is for
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>>729937620
>Should I read Patrick Rothfuss instead?
No. He abandoned the series and the story hasn't aged well 20 years later.
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>>729937620
>As an ESL
Don't write English novels if you do not understand proper English.
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>>729937612
until they go to India and it turns into a massive shit show
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>>729937612
The first trilogy is genuinely good. Everything else, no.
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>>729932662
He's gone downhill, but the first trilogy and spin-off books are good
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>>729937620
you should read it yes, it has everything modern fantasy must have.
-very bad men
-strong female characters
-the most generic fantasy shit you can imagine
-generic small group of good guys defeat the big bad empire.
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Question, why every book reader on youtube looks like some sort of effeminate basedboy?
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>>729937923
I'm not a big Sanderson fan but those last two points aren't remotely accurate.
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>>729935872
The writer and artist came to my primary school one time
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>>729937981
Being around lib women 24/7 made them go insane and cut their dicks off.
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>>729936779
The Byzantine Empire, being next to vaguely Athurian Scotland, both of which are in the east coast of america, throw me for loop when reading that series
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>>729937990
oh yeah my bad, I thought he talking about reading mistborn
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>>729937620
>Should I read Patrick Rothfuss instead? I also bought Name of the Wind
I liked the books. Well worth a read but just keep in mind the story will never be concluded (or the third book will be utter woke diarrhea considering the rewrite of the Bast novella).
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>>729931758
Idk I ain't read it because I still haven't finished all the better stuff like vance and zelazny.
I decided to crash the fuck out of trying to read sloppitys gaybow and go back to suldruns garden yesterday.
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>book 1: alright hero story, the infiltration and reconnaissance bit dragged on to long
>book 2: POLITICS POLITICS WAR WAR
>book 3: more WAR WAR also the bad guy from book 1 was just misguided lmao
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>>729938225
Anon you forgot the dogshit mormon romance and the twilight love triangle with someone unironically named Zane
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>>729930667
>9. Undertale
Trash
>8. Fallout: New Vegas
Trash
>7. Super Mario World
Trash
>6. The Curse of Monkey Island
Worst of the LucasArts point and clicks. Creator is also a raging homosexual
>5. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Trash
>4. Halo 2
Worst of the trilogy. 4~Infinte never happened. You are being gaslit.
>3. Final Fantasy X
Worst FF behind 13
>2. Bloodborne
Trash
>1. Civilization VI
Mega trash
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>>729937620
Nabokov was an ESL, you could study that and write fantasy Lolita instead.
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>>729937279
This unfortunately goes to total shit towards the end. The Great Ordeal stuff is just a painful drawn out slog of a read.
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>>729938414
The slog of slogs, you could say.
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>>729938283
Oh Christ I did forget about that bullshit.
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>>729930667
Are there actual adventures and fun characters in his books? I'm really tied of worldbuilding niggas speared out across 4 books.
I want an openworld Dragonriders of Pern game or a dragon colony manager.
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>>729938384
we already had the entire japanese market for that shit
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>>729930946
Souls games are really good.
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Since this is an off-topic thread, what book would you recommend, /v/? Any book is fine.
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>>729938515
Armor by John Steakley.
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>>729938515
Carl Sagan - Contact
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>>729930512
>WHO
>SHOULD
>IT
>BE?
I hope it goes to the worst people.
Microsoft or Embracer's many subsidiaries.
Squeare enix or Sega fucking it up would be amusing to see.
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I unironically can't enjoy fantasy anymore (other than Tolkien). I read Kawabata's "The Dancing Girl from Izu" recently and it was a banger though.
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>>729938442
>>729938384
ToT
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>>729936779
First two books are great, then it starts going downhill
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>>729937620
>Should I read Patrick Rothfuss instead? I also bought Name of the Wind
Sorry I'm late, I came as quick as I could.
But ntr passages aside, no. He's never going to finish it, and he put so little effort into pretending he's ever going to that even his editor publicly called him out for it.
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>>729938206
>the story will never be concluded
I only read The Name of the Wind.
Is it true somebody guess that 'Kvothe is schizophrenic and made up everything' so the author had to rewrite the third book multiple times?
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>>729938828
No, he's just a lazy faggot who has absolutely zero idea how to end the trilogy. They did figure out some shit tho, like how the chess guy is the ash lord
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>>729930512
Fuck i started reading his other series...should i switch? Also why is this guy pretending like he didn't lift the mc from berserk in stormlight saga. He even said during an elden ring stream that he "haha doesn't read berserk because its too gory to him but he respects a fellow author". This fucker actually expects me to believe not only that he is only on the same level as Miura but that he never read any of his works.
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>>729938515
Blood Meridian
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>>729937702
damn
>>729938206
maybe I'll skim Name of the Wind then, look for nice prose to steal
>>729938384
I did buy Lolita ackshually. I really liked it
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>>729934440
Shade's Children would be cool too
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>>729938515
The books I liked the most this year were
>A night in the lonesome october
Relatively short book but great stuff
>House of Leaves
Very famous but I never read it before and liked it, it's for a very specific kind of reader though
>Something Wicked this Way Comes
Again a small-ish book but really good when it came to setting up a particular mood

I've given women author their fair chance and they just don't do it for me. Avoid Babel, it's preachier than everything you can imagine, Imaginary Friend (though I think it was a dude who wrote it), it falls to shit halfway through, and the Cartographers, all the characters are stupids
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>>729930512
Sanderson a shit and people touting him as modern tolkien are worse than hitler and blm
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>>729938515
It's about paladins, honor and stuff.
Very fun trilogy and there's also a barefeet loli.
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>>729938515
Raymond Chandler's The Big Sleep, followed by Farewell, My Lovely, then The High Window, then The Long Goodbye.
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>>729938515
E for effort.
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>>729938904
>he didn't lift the mc from berserk in stormlight saga
Guts? I don't really see it besides the hueg sword
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>>729938915
WHAT
THE
FUCK
WAS
HIS
PROBLEM
?
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>>729939104
the main villain is defeated because he ordered his undead army to guard every square, but his capital had tiled ground everywhere, so they all stood immobile
There are certain parts about that book that are very good, along with a very decisive protagonist.
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book that has this kind of dynamic?
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>>729939073
He can't be worse than most GW writers,
Most 40k books are complete rubbish.
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>>729939328
Between Two Fires kind of
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>>729939328
The one I'm writing.

She dies at the end
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>>729936794
BASED
>>729936867
BASED
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/v/ is the last place I would have expected decent fantasy opinions, don't you faggot like litrpgs?
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>>729939458
I don't even know what that is.
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>>729938515
Chronicles of Amber. You can stop at the protagonist change if you want though.
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>>729939458
>don't you faggot like litrpgs
this place overlaps with /sffg/ so probably not
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>>729939458
No, why would anyone like them? Or do you think because people like to play videogames they will insist on cramming videogame mechanics into everything?
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>>729939379
40k writing is not writing, it's just slop
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>>729939458
The only time I see someone bring up litrpgs is when some dork just starts seething about them out of nowhere
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>>729939458
I hate litrpg almost as much as I hate video games.
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>>729939458
Why would i like an RPG book when I could just play an RPG?
I think most people understand that RPG mechanics like Levelling are, for the most part abstraction of things that occur in real life, you don't need to codify as something that really happens to people when they kill Goblins or Rats, that's just naff.
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>>729939458
I've been trying hard to come up with narrative reasons to use the stupid RPG stat boxes and shit that litrpgs like to cram in and I just can't do it. Isekai is easy, but litrpg? Nah, no chance.
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>>729939458
litrpg is more /a/ than /v/, since most of them just rip off the absolute worst isekai tropes and repackage them.
The only ones that are even slightly worth reading are the ones that instead rip off Xianxia an hide it behind a facade of litrpg to trick the normalfags.
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>>729939379
Bl is poop but I have never seen any of their authors get astroturfed as much as sanderson
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>>729939494
I love the Amber chronicle.
I had a nightmare it got a GoT adaptation.
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>>729936675
already made, but genderbent
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>>729939458
>litrpgs
the fuck is that?
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>>729939787
an actual human being made this?
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>>729936794
>>729937279
Is Bakker even alive nowadays? You can't just end your shit on a cliffhanger like that and fuck off.
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>>729932557
At least he finishes his books George.
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>>729939787
post the one with giantesses
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>>729939379
40k is slop in general and fags praise anything it shits out. I saw their animated show that released recently. 3 different low effort animation styles with nothing happening outside cgi shit flying around and people praise it as great. Glad im not a retarded brandcuck for any franchise.
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>>729939939
>At least he finishes his books George.
Huuuuuuuuuuuuuh
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>>729938515
Foundation, by Isaac Asimov
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>>729931195
At least he's better than the orc city guy.
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>>729930512
I tried reading The Stormlight Archive. The first book was pretty good. Then the following books fell off a cliff in terms of quality with him trying to make it into "Avengers but fantasy" to capitalize on the Marvel trend at the time. Very disappointing series. I stopped reading after the third book and have no interest to read anything else by the guy.
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>>729939927
He is, he's just an autismo.
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>>729939779
Here's hoping the rumored Netflix Stephen Colbert-run adaptation is happening in another shadow.

Also, Merlin grew on me a bit with a recent re-read, but there's just so many poor resolutions in the second half I can't find it satisfying.
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>>729938515
The Canterbury tales.
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>>729930512
I read Mistborn on a recommendation from a friend and it was the most anti-soul, plastic grey, bland nothing of a trilogy I have ever read that wasn't just some licensed videogame or movie tie-in. It read like a blended-up soup of Hershey's chocolate, Funko Pops and Marvel quips.
I feel like if you made Sanderson write in any sort of prose he would literally die.
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Why doesn’t the West adapt older fantasy books into games or TV series? Malazan, Elderlings, TSA, The First Law... they’re basically fucking goldmines. GoT did it once and became a massive hit at least before the ending
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>>729930512
small reminder for hopefags in this thread
the average development time for games is 5-7 years.
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Abercrombie is good, though his newest novel might be the weakest of his output (if we don't count some of the short stories)
I warmed up to it by the end but the characters really felt too stereotypical and there were too many marvel quip moments stacked near each other
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>>729940481
they do.
but it takes years to negotiate a price and contract.
Also some authors (the ones with a tiny bit of pride) want to make sure their stories are not fucked up by some retarded Hollywood people (hard to avoid these days).
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>>729938784
This was kinda disappointing. Very good at times but kinda petered out and the sequels are just silly.
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>>729930512
>Pop metal vial
>Duralumin + pewter + steelpush
>Repeat
It wouldn't really work as a videogame
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>>729940481
Amazon was going to adapt Conan, but someone complained it was going to be misogynistic
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>>729938784
I finished this two days ago, it's a 6.5/10 at best
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>>729940481
Current Western media is kind of a joke to the point where fans of older series don't actually want adaptations considering how bad the recent attempts have been.
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>>729939073
Hitler was the good guy.
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>>729930535
>gay fem protag slop.
Vin is a garbage protagonist. Sandersons writing won't translate to videogames at all.
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>>729938515
The Gormenghast trilogy
The elemental opposite of Sanderson-slop. The plot happens veeeeerry slowly but the descriptions of the world and characters are some of the most beautifully rich and detailed I have ever read. It probably has something to do with the fact that they were written by a visual artist.
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>>729940845
Don't bother with the sequels then, the first book is the series peak and goes downhill from there
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>>729940954
who's vin again?
the best course for a video game adaptation anyways is to drop the plot of the books and just do an original story in the universe.
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>>729941014
The third book is complete garbage but I think the second is a lot of fun, especially with no flashbacks.
The audiobook covers a lot of flaws
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>>729940481
Because these adaptations are done by hackwriters and they add a personal vision over the original story and its themes, relying on the popularity of the source material rather than faithful storytelling.
And do not forget the political baggage these stories carries: a male centric hero journey.

Look at the Witcher or WheelOfTime.
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>>729940954
It barely translates to paper to begin with. Some of the blandest prose imaginable but he's a decent idea guy so the books sell.
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>>729938542
>Armor by John Steakley.
Massively overlooked novel even though I didn't care that ,much for the mercenary part.
>mfw Felix goes all out at the end
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>>729941014
>the first book is the series peak and goes downhill from there
yeah sanderson has a good eye for original premises but he's not great at sequels. i dropped mistborn pretty fast after the first book, and his stormlight archives book got the same treatment.
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>>729940481
Because those IPs are literally carrying the entire traditional publishing industry on their backs, making the rights incredibly valuable. Seriously, something like 60% of books never sell more than 1k copies, and of the remaining 40% most barely make a profit.
Without a living author to coerce/personally bribe, they have to deal with corporations in their entirety, and the ones that are still alive have seen what happens to an adaption unless they've got Rowling tier control, which just isn't going to happen.
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See... after Bloodborne...anyone who adds born to the back of their title is just a fraud trying to ride on the coattails of From Software. Same with adding Souls on the back of their title.
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>>729938515
If you want epic fantasy written by someone who doesn't write epic fantasy check out Dread Empire by Glen Cook. It's an interesting read.
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>>729941074
>Some of the blandest prose imaginable but he's a decent idea guy so the books sell.
he's the quantity over quality guy. yeah the book is mid but you get a new 1500 pages book every year.
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>>729941114
He's talking about Gentleman Bastards, no Sanderson. Scott Lynch is a talented writer but a total fuckup who has written 1.5 good books in 20 years.
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>>729940481
Because sanderson which isn't kfc is arguably the most popular writer after the fat man

Brand recognition is all
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>>729941160
Mediocre b8
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>>729930595
his early stuff is much better than the newer stuff but i agree. everything ends up being anime slop by the end. he will not have the legacy of a great author
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>>729941074
Being readable is key to reaching wider audience. Sanderson ain't Wolfe.
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>>729939458
Followup question, why can't you faggots talk about video games like this?
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>>729938642
fuck off gaylord asoiaf is still kino
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>>729941240
books 1-3 are great. books 4-5 are decent. books 6-7 are nonexistant.
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>>729941235
You know the rules and so do I.
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>>729930667
Sounds like the list of a soifaced retard, which is exactly what I would expect from him. It's basically the list that would be conjured up by a gamejourno faggot.
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>>729939104
I read all (?) Eddings in elementary school. Fond memories but I doubt it would be worth a re-read as an adult.
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>>729941235
It's the same reason why there's better anime threads here than /a/. Stay in one board long enough, you'll lose your mind.
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>>729930512
it would be Dragon Age Veilguard tier. imagine adapting babbys first fantasy author when you could do a Gormenghast or Book of the new Sun.
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>>729939328
Lan and Moiraine in the Wheel of Time quite literally.
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>>729941442
>why adapt that slop when you could adapt this slop?
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>>729930512
Its dustborn prequel
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>>729938642
Just read old shit, nothing written from the 90's onward is worthwhile.
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What does /v/ think of Cradle?
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>>729930512
I want the best for him but if this is made by some Ubisoft no name studio there's zero chance it will be any good
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>>729941051
I can't imagine anyone wanting anything they enjoy adapted by the West in 2026.
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>>729939104
I can't enjoy David Eddings' stuff anymore after it was revealed that him and his wife spent time in prison for serial child abuse. In the 1970's no-less so you just KNOW it had to be bad.
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>>729941235
Because the board is infested with people that never actually play video games and literally get all of their opinions via thread osmosis. Since the opinions they pick up will be ones that confirm all their biases, chances are that any thread they involve themselves in will be them vomiting out whatever the latest OHNONONO bait relating to the subject is.
It's hard to talk about a subject when a significant chunk of the thread will be inhabited by dribbling retards that have no interest in the topic and will get angry at people correcting whatever banal shitposts they regurgitate.

To contrast, these retards have never picked up a book in their lives, and book threads on /v/ are just uncommon enough that they can't pick up material to shit the threads up with.
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>>729932510
Nearing my 30s and Tolkien is still readable. Gene Wolfe and Jack Vance were also interesting reads. Modern authors just suck.
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>>729941578
has anyone told you before that you're a pessimistic motherfucker, anon?
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>>729941519
Looks like the gayest thing I've ever seen and I spent all summer readin robert silverburg
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>>729941529
far from the worst adaptation.
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>>729941519
babby's first xianxia
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>>729941240
Martin's prose is trite and boring. The whole series is an exercise in quantity over quality.
t. read all the books when I was a teen
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>>729941287
We need more futanari characters in video game.
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>>729941235
Because videogame sucks and they are filled with modern politics.
And then you have the mouth breathing normies who are so easily amused by the barest minimum amount of gameplay with epic cutscenes on top, claiming its 'the best videogame ever'.

At least books require a minimun of tree digit IQ to understand.
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>>729940874
>Current Western media is kind of a joke to the point where fans of older series don't actually want adaptations considering how bad the recent attempts have been.
That is correct, anon. Pic related is a potential nightmare. Hopefully it falls apart like every other attempt to adapt it.
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>>729941519
Nickelodeon-ass cover
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>read a sci-fi dune clone
>son of a duke but he's a twink
>wahh mum and dad is divorced
>he runs away and becomes homeless
>dropped it there, holy shit it was depressing

>read a fantasy novel
>there is a mage assassin using gemstones for power?
>and a dude got turned into a slave that carries bridges?
>quit early, it was depressing

>read the name of the wind
>very well written
>but holy shit kvote is a certified theater kid, no pun intended

hail mary was pretty good and looking forward to the upcoming movie
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>>729941636
There may be, but I can't think of a worse one. It's like they went out of their way to get more wrong than right. It feels spiteful.
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>>729941442
bethesda shoud do it.
>it's not a bug!! it's was in the book I swear
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When are we getting a Red Rising video game?
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>>729941726
eragon? dragon ball?
i'd have watched a fourth season of wot.
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>>729930595
Correct. His writing is the /lit/ version of Call of Duty for women. They consistently embarrass themselves by circlejerking to Sandersoy.
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>>729941678
Remember that time discworld got adapted, and they made:
>Death a passive aggressive asshole who hates his job?
>Cheery a dwarf identifying tranny man
>Angua a complete womanlet tomboy (and still the third best casting)
>Vimes a punk rocker
>Vetinari and Wonse women
>Sybil a vigilante avenging the deaths of her parents
>Carcer an unironic dindu
I'm sure I forgot something
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>>729941235
90% here only "play" some interactive movie slop or chinkoid gacha BS.
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>>729941529
When i see shit like this i alway imagine it as it was written by people who plays lots of tabletob garbage
>"a 19 good job!"
>"as the enemy runs towards you, you grab him by the cloack drag it down to the snow and pierce his skull with your lance"
>"WOOO BADASS!"
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>>729941105
I like to imagine that when he fought his way through Borglyn's crew to the bridge, and saw the man there, he didn't see a fellow veteran, but just a disgusting, globular-eyed ant in his place. And he had dealt with him the same way he had dealt with thousands of other ants on Banshee. Off with its claws and then a hit to the thorax.
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>>729941808
Shit was so bad it wasn't even worth mocking it. People didn't even gangpile it, they just punted it out of their consciousness and let it die.
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>>729941783
Curious what you found compelling about the show. Did you read the books? I forced myself to sit through the first season but I honestly wish I'd stopped at episode 1, or never turned it on at all.
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>>729941552
A lot of authors from that time period turned out to be pieces of shit. Marion Zimmer Bradley ended up being a diddler, along with her husband and live-in girlfriend. She and her husband were also major figures in shaping the whole "neo-paganism" thing. There was also a husband/wife pair of authors whose name I can't recall who ended up getting outed as child abusers who would lock their foster kids in kennels. They were convicted back in the 70's and then I guess the convicted got buried, much like Eddings.
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>>729941967
>>729941105
Just picked it up anon, thanks
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>>729941808
Discworld was depressingly Jewish in hindsight so I don't really care.
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>>729941235
Videogames have sound and moving pictures

Books don't have sound and moving pictures

Servants of demiurge are unable to comprehend books
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>>729938303
>2 worst of the trilogy

this is some high level bait

order is 2>1>3
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>>729932662
fantastic character writing and prose, but by the end of the First Law trilogy I basically felt like I wasted my time and got blue-balled. Almost none of the characters develop in a satisfying way, (Logen never really gets handle on his rage and ends up causing the death of his friends, Faroh stays a bitter cunt and doesn't get closer to Logen AND gets a cliffhanger ending, Jezal doesn't get back together with the love of his life OR develop into a man of substance like it seemed he might, West dies a slow shitty death, the Northmen who were all really likable just get killed off one by one), the bad guy wins and basically makes everyone's lives fucking terrible, and it's just fucking miserable and shitty and pissed me off.
At least Glokta made out pretty well for himself, he was based. Sure you could say it's more realistic that the story doesn't follow the typical arc you'd expect, but still I feel like I never want to to read anything the dude ever writes again because of how thoroughly unsatisfied the ending, characters, and plot left me
/rant
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>>729938515
Discworld series by Terry Pratchett, starting with the colour of magic
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>>729942256
I walked away from it with the same exact feelings.
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>>729932662
Reddit writing
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>>729930667
>kino book series
Its YA slop
You are the lowest common denominator that Sanderson appeals to.
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>>729942307
No anon, this is the reddit Joe Abercrombie. You got them mixed up
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>>729941235
I actually want to discuss video games like this, but nobody lets me.
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>>729942359
isn't this one considered problematic by redditors? Like the mc rapes and stuff like that
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>>729942282
I would actually recommend not starting with the early Discworld books because the setting and tone is very different early on.

Also all Wizards books are shit. Read Men at Arms first. No, not Guards Guards.
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>>729942130
Nah.
It's irreverent but it lacks the homoerotic streak and the penchant for the grotesque that characterizes authentic jewish works.

You want to see what real jewish writing looks like go read Up The Line.
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>>729942359
I’ve tried Abercrombie a few times but I hate the entire “fantasy… but WITHOUT magic or mystery! everything is… le grim”
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>>729941636
It's objectively one of the worst adaptations of all time. They didn't even get any details right on accident. Everything was wrong.
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>>729930989
in my top 10 you would find quake, Deus ex, half-life, age of empires, baldur's gate 2, any arcade racing game with a track editor and super metroid
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>>729942256
Felt almost like a fake trilogy considering how much is wrapped up and expanded on in the 3 follow "standalone" novels that make no attempt to introduce previous characters and are clearly sequels to each other and the first law
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>>729942025
wot is one of those rare shows that actually get better as it goes. season 2 is still rocky but season 3 manages to actually be a decent watch.
it's a mix of the show progressively dropping the tv audience in favor of the book audience and the new cast with lanfear, elayne, verin and moghedian that can actually pull their weight.
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>>729941739
I would prefer an animated series. Besides a battle royale just based in the premise from the first book I don't see any other game genre it can fit into
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>>729942431
The guy is literally a big redditor and got his start hawking his shit on /r/fantasy
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>>729932571
>how do you even know if something is the thing that you like the most?
are you fucking retarded
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>>729942359
Are you kidding? This book contains everything that Reddit would hate, except for a token morally upright minority character that dies anyway.
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>>729942359
this is peak cringe kino
it's probably been almost a decade since I read this and I still remember some of the scenes, the rape scene at end is especially funny
I even bought the second book to see where it was going but it was just garbage and not funny like the first sadly

I did read his next series about the assassin nuns and that was actually quite decent
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I know it would never happen but a Redwall video game with a big budget and skilled devs would be fun
Talking animals and classic fantasy setting what could go wrong
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>>729942362
There are very few videogames that have enough substance to them to warrant such a discussion.
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>>729941519
Xianxia without the over the top chink posturing and sociapathy is surprisingly good. Could have done without the Abidan plotline though, I skimmed all those parts of the books.
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>>729940954
Agreed, many here might "like" the "world building" which sanderson's other series planet Roshar is way more fleshed out than Scadriel. Vin is a 16 year old written by a guy in his twenties, its rough
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>>729942359
I tried to read devils and it is one of the shlockiest books i've ever laid my eyes upon - especially it's prose.

It has so many cringy "libtard" (not exactly correct term, but "stereotypically "progressive"" doesn't sound negative wnough) archetypes to the point that it seemed like some /pol/chud wrote it like the cuck seeing his wife's child for the first time and being upset that it isn't black copypasta
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>>729942454
CONSULT THE CHART
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>>729942625
The trilogy has a pretty kino ending, I think you missed out by not finishing it.
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>>729941678
OH MY HECKIN' AMAZEBALLS
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>>729942542
Sorry but I will never forgive them for making Perrin and Nynaeve dumb niggers and Egwene an ugly poo.
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>>729942359
>peter v brett
THAT FUCKING HACK
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>>729942674
>it seemed like some /pol/chud wrote it like the cuck seeing his wife's child for the first time and being upset that it isn't black copypasta
I've never read the book you speak of, but I have no fucking idea what this is even supposed to mean. Can you speak like a human?
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>>729935273
was it really faked? I thought he basically just forever imprisoned them in the spiritual realm
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>>729938642
I feel the same as you. I was recommended both midborn and name of the wind and found them very unimpressive.
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>>729930667
basic taste but not horrible
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>>729932510
>around the time the average person begins to view fictional literature as beneath because they are unable to allow themselves to engage with it on a deep personal level anymore.
Maybe you just have autism.
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>>729942130
Discworld was warts and all.
None of those types would ever repeatedly tout that equality means equal responsibility. Jingo and Monstrous regiment are antithetical to the current year in that regard. The fifth elephant would practically be heresy if it was released today.
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>>729942683
The chart is an handy guide to understand how each book is connected. It's not meant to be a reading order. Otherwise you'd end up reading all wizards books back to back.
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>>729933270
I used to shill Books 1 and 2, Oathbreaker is a scale up narratively and yes it stumbles but I still like it. Now, Rhythm of War book 4 and Wind and Truth Book 5 feel so far removed from the core of what made Books 1-2 interesting that I no longer reccomend the series. I will continue listening but thats cause I drive and listen to the audios, I wont look forward to them either. Book 5 was THAT bad and for a supposedly 10 book series he needed a better mid climax
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>>729932510
>in way of kings all the characters start flying around having DBZ battles
where does this meme come from?
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>>729942761
Well yeah, he faked it. He told the other goddess he killed them, but he chucked them out in a pocket in the spiritual realm where they still live.
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>>729942817
Can I add to this and say that Kate Reading is fucking terrible at her job and is clearly there because of her husband.
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>>729942718
>casual racism
fyi she's australian.
sounds like you were never gonna be satisfied mate, hollywood hasn't been pasty white in a while.
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>>729942454
What's wrong with Guards! Guards! you homoerotic melanin auslander?
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>>729932510
This is filled with so much projection lel
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Step aside plebs, time for some TRVE KINO.
>tfw you will never be dream-teleported to the end of time and become a pizza wheel wielding scholar knight that braves the pitch dark starless world outside of the last citadel of humanity in search of another great fortress city where your reincarnated beloved supposedly resides, waiting for you.
Niggas in 1908 were on some different shit.
Modern writers could never...
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>>729942701
to this day i still struggle to understand if it meant to be provax or antivax.
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>>729942853
>have Reading in the name
>suck at reading
false advertising
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>>729942853
oh boy, her performance keeps gettting worse yes. Kramer still has me by the balls tho
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>>729942963
>provax: okay with being used as a human testsubject with corporations that have billions in malpractice lawsuits caused by thousands of lethalities trailing them
>antivax: you are against that
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>>729942683
I completely disregarded this and I'm reading them from order of release and it's been great. I'm currently at Wyrd Sisters.
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>>729943020
The graphic audio started fucking badly, got damn good by book 2 and then ruined book 3 by obnoxiously loud background music. Shame, since all the Shallan sections are so much better with a full cast instead of Readings terrible fucking attempt at even a single masculine voice.
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>>729942893
It's just not as good as Men at Arms because it's really a book about Carrot and therefore if you read Men at Arms first you have an higher chance to "get" what the Guards series will actually be about.

It's not like you can't read Guards Guards later.
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>>729942874
Abomonkeys are closely enough related to Indians that I don't there's need to be a distinction.

Hollywood has always been Jewish.
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>>729942542
I have heard it gets better, but I also heard quite a few people say the first season was good as it was coming out, and it was certified fucking trash. Anything made by the guy that made stone-faced Lan twist his nipples and shout over some random gay warder dying isn't really something I'm interested in. Also, why would they drop the TV audience? Book readers had largely dropped the show by that point. I wish they would announce it was being brought back just so they could cancel it again. Fuck Rafe Judkins.
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>>729942454
>>729942893
I started with Guards! Guards! and it hasn't managed to keep me interested enough. Maybe I shouldn't have started with it.
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>>729942692
I'll get back to it at some point, the world needs more books about middle aged men's edgy OCs honestly, that's the good kind of slop
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>>729943069
Discworld has definitely become my favorite book series. Every single page is just stuffed with jokes or dry british satire
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>>729939379
>40K books
>Battletech books

I mean I understand *why* these things exist, but who in the world is actually reading them? Anons on /btg/ will post passages from the Battletech novels perodically and it's always ridiculously bad, and I'm not exactly the hardest guy to impress, I've enjoyed 8 books worth of SanderSlop.
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>>729943159
You should stick with the Guards series anyway because it's the series that feature the absolute and uncontested best book of the Discworld series.
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Come on anon give women one more chance
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>>729943137
>I have heard it gets better
the third season is by far the best rated one.
i figure that by the third season the execs knew the show was fucked so they let rafe do whatever he wanted.
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>>729943291
Maybe 2 chances?
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>>729942963
It was pretending to be provax whilst pretending to be antivax whilst pretending to be a comedy show
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>>729938206
>rewrite of the Bast novella
what happened?
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>>729943362
>>729943291
These 2 and ursula le guin have a pass but that's it.
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>>729938784
It's YA. It's fine, but the girlboss lesbian pirate in the sequel is just awful.
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>>729942853
>mfw in the middle of listening to the WoT books
>my face when it's a nynaeve/egwene/elaine POV chapter
rosamund pike please fucking save me
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>>729943291
I'm reading death gate cycle i'm already doing that
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>>729943301
I highly doubt Rafe not having enough freedom when he was the fucking showrunner was the problem when it's highly more likely that he's just an untalented piece of shit. I doubt the execs forced him to ruin every character for no reason in the very first episode, or make several episodes starring his boyfriend for some reason.
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>>729943509
You're a big girlie but I get it.
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>>729943020
The whiplash is the worst.
I've long since stopped caring about variety of voices, since being able to emote is a far more valuable skill, but going from someone who can narrate action properly to someone who can't is a real pain.
Jonathan Keeble in particular is so good at it I've resigned myself to just having a buffer book to reset my expectations.
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>>729943485
Neither are lesbians but I get it
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>>729943509
Post tits. That's basically all my sister reads.
Is Tusk Love the one from critical role? I didn't know they actually released a novel.
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>>729943509
>legends and lattes

people read this?
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>>729943558
>he was the fucking showrunner
you don't know how tv is made, do you? the showrunner is hired by the producers. they are the ones that control what happens as they control the money. the bigger the showrunner, the more leeway he has.
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>>729943485
For me it was the fact the broad strokes are just a rehash of book one
>The lads have a scam
>book builds it up and you see how fun it's going to be
>Scam gets derailed by something they had no way of foreseeing and no way of fighting against
>derailment is nowhere near as interesting
>they eventually turn it around at a great cost
>they pull off the original scam, but ultimately it's a completely pyhrric victory
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>>729930512
>>729930667
Pathetically transparent. Buy an ad.
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>>729935872
>>too violent and bleak for kids
>>too sexless and sanitized for adults
Sounds like a prime Fromsoftware setting
>>author ruined the setting by doing time skips forward to less interesting eras with more advanced technology
That's cool as fuck. Thanks for the recc
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>>729943758
it has 325.882 reviews on goodread so yeah
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>>729943831
352 and 3/4th of a review ain't that huge
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>>729943435
Homosex and a tranny. Not kidding.
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>>729943550
Death Gate is comfy babby's first fantasy.
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>>729943804
that's what I like about it
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>>729943831
Keep in mind the due dilligence you have to do these days.
If you see something with a high review count, check, and may allah forgive me for uttering this word, booktok to make sure it's not pushed by those people. They don't even fucking read prose.
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>>729944046
what's wrong with that?
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>>729943804
And then the next book was total garbage caused by Lynch's divorce, he semi-retired from writing and the 4th book has been "almost done" since 2016.
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>>729944094
Nothing. The books are p good.
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>>729944129
I find it hard to believe many would be interested to read it, especially after the total catastrophe that was the cliffhanger at the end.
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>>729943797
Okay, let's assume producers meddled to some degree. Even so, we can safely assume that it was he, not producers, who chose to shove his boyfriend into the show as a bi OC who ate up a bunch of time. So even if the producers meddled to some unknown degree, we know for a fact that Rafe is comfortable meddling to some degree himself. Even if the producers were responsible for a dozen mistakes, hell, even a hundred, there would still be a thousand mistakes that would fall on his shoulders.
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Larian maybe, but eh. As far as OP female protagonists go Sanderson's are more tolerable than most, but whether vidya, animated, or film I would expect the typical DEI treatment. The lore isn't deep enough to get autists and talented artists deeply invested in the stories, and those are the types you need to make that sort of project successful. Elantris is basically Dark Souls with a happy ending, and there are so many other great books out there that could be adapted with fewer restrictions and especially licensing fees.
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>>729944321
Who can forget that truly wonderful sideplot?
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>>729942362
I think maaaybe RPGCodex, but only if you have very specific tastes.
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It's a little sad but not the worst thing that Koreans and Japanese are carrying the flag for fantasy better than the west these days.
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>>729944913
>Koreans and Japanese are carrying the flag for fantasy
It's more that consuming anime garbage has brought the west down to the level of korea and japan.
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>>729944913
if you mean those animes then sure
they are baby tier compared to older western stuff though
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>>729944913
I tried watching Frieren and it was slop.
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>>729944913
I love my autistic, racist elf wife.
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>>729944913
Chinkoids cannot into creative arts.
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>>729945145
Hey look, it's the next Netflix classic western fantasy casting. I'll take the lowest tier isekai trash over abominations like >>729942376

Also Mushoku Tensei is genuinely good and Re:Zero ain't half bad. And manhuas aren't complex but damnit at least they care about the genre setting.
There's a recent one with a grunt soldier doing the repeating day trope and it's fun at least.
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>>729944913
at least they know how to faithfully adapt their shit.
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>>729945350
That barely counts, she's a massive westaboo when it comes to fantasy
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>>729930512
Never read this guy's novels. Maybe I'll give one of them a chance.
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>>729945350
japs are racist as fuck and they're very protective of their own dwindling culture.
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>>729945427
I compare them to entertaining if slightly brainless summer action movies. Before Hollywood totally shit the bed, anyway.
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>>729930667
Too many tranny games to call this list good
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>>729930512
Wouldn't gamers hate mistborn?
The series started with tons of shitty filler about being a princess in high society.
The series ended with being a god and redesigning the solar system.
The only thing that stood out was how fucking badass the steel inquisitors were, but even then they quickly devolve into being generic mooks who can't hold a candle to the marie sue protagonist and get slain by the dozen by everyone.
The world is ultimately saved by a castrated librarian.
They would need an entirely new plot, storyline, cast of characters, and maybe even world since the worldbuilding is ass.
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>>729945519
retard
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>>729945519
Dishonored fits almost perfectly as a Mistborn game.
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>>729944913
The anime moe style doesn't blend with fantasy well so I could never get into any of them
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>>729945495
Thanks for the review.
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>>729945625
If nothing else read Berserk at some point at least through the Eclipse event. If you like Dark Souls aesthetics at all you'll at least find it tolerable.
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>>729945616
Just being genuine. The world has almost everyone enslaved so they can oush ash off of crops. The plantation owners are indoctrinated to view them as sub-human, to ensure the ash pushing slavery continues.
The plantation owners are the descendants of the group of friends who tried to save the world.
The group of friends who tried to save the world nearly ended the world. After receiving godhood briefly, the world was pushed too far back, physically, to sustain life. So never ending volcanoes were created. Which prevents plantlife from growing. Which kills humanity unless humanity itself is enslaved and forced to push ash off of crops.
The worldbuilding is objectively ass. I really don't see how it could be adapted to a game in an enjoyable way. They would have to toss everything aside and focus primarily on metallurgy and assassinations, which is only a very small part of the books.
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>>729932557
Yeah, the men in WoT got treated like garbage.
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>>729946090
yeah just posting spoilers casually :)
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>>729946090
>and focus primarily on metallurgy and assassinations
Shit, allomancy I mean.
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>>729930667
I thought they stopped making this kinda guy in 2015.
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>>729946090
>Which kills humanity unless humanity itself is enslaved and forced to push ash off of crops.
That wasn't really the reason humanity got enslaved.
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>>729931405
>>729931519
He is not just popular, he is extremely popular on reddit therefore he might as well be satan here
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>>729946125
The trilogy ended almost 20 years ago.
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>>729945439
>japs are racist as fuck
Based, that's why lefties hates anime.
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>>729941808
To this day I have no idea what aesthetic they were going. It looks like urban fantasy of some sort. It's a VERY loose interpretation that probably avoiding a lot of the shit by not having Discworld in the title.
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>>729946174
He does understand pacing pretty well, and most importantly he puts out new books very reliably and regularly that never sell horribly. Competent, but never great or horrible.
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>>729932662
Ahh. Legendary rapemaster murderlord the torture king.
In Abercrombies world rape is currency and torture is character development.
Everything sucks. Everyone is a legendary rapist. Rape is good. Hail satan!

You are only a worthy character when you killed your parents and wear their intestine as a crown after they raped you in your childhood.

Muh grimderp is so realistic!
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>>729942674
abercrombie's fall with the devils blindsided a lot of people
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>>729946410
From what I gathered, the QRD is that they were about to lose the rights so they just grabbed the first script they could get their hands on, swapped a few names round and called it a day.
It's got so little to do with discworld because the original script was probably some modern day fantasy they had to crowbar into discworld
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>>729946465
There is a distinct lack of sexual violence Abercrombie's world, what the fuck are you even talking about.
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>>729946491
He's always had a bit of trend chaser to him, remember when he made that YA series to cash in like a decade ago?
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>>729943069
Same her, i'm at Maskerade.
Nanny Ogg and granny Weatherwax are hilarius.
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>>729944913
Everything in the west is either edgy grim dark or YA slop and there's no in-between, everything takes place in a medieval european setting too, that's the issue
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>>729945625
>The anime moe style
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>>729947002
so is the east except all of them are YA slop. The market is filled with either isekai rpg shit or shounen shit
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Jesus, modern YA/fantasy covers are so shitty. At best they are generic deviantart slop, at worst it looks like ai slop.
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>>729930512
>in discussions with various Triple-A studios
I didn't knew hype levels could go so deep in the negative.
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>>729943137
The second season?
The battle for Falme?

Egwene fights Ishmael while Rand cries on the ground like a cuck. Moraine made a CGI dragon to pretend it was still "the dragon fighting in the sky"
Im not even joking.
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>>729943137
People with such opinions:
1. Didn't read the books
2. Are retarded and it isn't treatable
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>>729931945
>autistic weirdo sexless mormon
Not. True.
Vin had sex with Elend. Vin is the girl in the opening image.
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>>729941739
>>729942562
Gotta be an action RTS. Something in the vein of mount and blade or kingdom under fire
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>>729943291
I actually like a lot of the older sff that was written by women, at least what I've read so far. I think women get the pulpyness pretty well for some reason. But modern female written sff is just not the same at all.
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any books similar in concept/quality to The Faraway Paladin?
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>>729947957
They're generally just flat out lying.
It's easy to say that a shit series totally gets better later on, trust me bro, because the vast majority will never subject themselves too it to discover the lie.
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>>729948749
Why he look like Zuko
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>>729948749
A lot of things that hit some of the same notes, but I can't think of much that hits most of the same notes. I'd be interested as well. It also depends on what qualities you're looking for. Somali and the Forest Spirit for instance in some ways, but I couldn't call it similar.
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>>729948749
Yeah. The first arc is fun, but there are a ton of better books out there. Especially so after the initial arc ends and his boring as shit exploration begins.
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>>729947584
Sometimes they update older covers to make them even worse. left is 2015 and right is 2023 printing of the same book
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>>729947584
And now they've also taken to coloring the border of the pages themselves, which looks shitty as fuck and like a toddler drew on it. Perhaps as a form of protest against this lady.
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>>729948749
Best I can think of is check it out on myanimelist and look at the interest stacks associated with it.
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>>729931758
I'm pretty much caught up with his entire bibliography at this point and he's just a mediocre writer with an amazing work ethic and too many cooks in the kitchen.

I'd generally place his stuff above the vast majority of webnovel slop, but none of it is spectacular and his character writing has gotten dramatically worse ever since he lost his original editor and had him replaced with a hundred liberal bootlickers whose only real contribution is convincing him to be "more realistic" and to "sanitize offensive stereotypes". His characters in the last two Stormlight books became mockeries of themselves, less people and more walking stripped down Psychology 101 essays.
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>>729949361
To me that sounds like they don't actually give a shit about reading them and just want a decoration, which itself is a massive red flag. Surely you'd want the spines on display, both to indicate how well read you are plus let people know of other authors they should check out?
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>>729934786
>>729934675
He was always kind of a cunt and though he justifies his actions as trying to save the world, he was 100% doing it in a way that benefited him and his ambitions personally. Him going insane just amplified his shitcuntiness over time.
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>Everyone says sanderson has good world building
>read his books
>His world buildings atrocious
Legitimately the worst world building in a fantasy series ive ever read, not being facetious either.

I think people confuse concepts with world building. Because he has interesting concepts but then does shit like this
>Oh yea our kingdom and the worlds been based around slavery
>Lets just end it no big deal no real fallout or consequences
Or
>Lets abolish monarchies and just CASUALLY IMPLEMENT A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC
Yea no big deal, done in a few weeks no pushback no consequences. Throw gods not real in there too in your theocratic monarchy why not.
How the fuck do his characters even know what these concepts are? He writes medieval characters with 21st century morals seemingly out of nowhere.
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>>729930512
oh boy sell out lgbtq garbage from a formerly good author
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>>729950260
The modern thinking getting more and more prevalent was really noticeable to me as his books went on. Cultural differences too just seem to fade. He's not fallen as far as Marvelshit but he's heading in some similar directions. And he doesn't have the flexibility to fall that far to begin with.
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>>729941235
Because board culture has conditioned people to regurgitate the most retarded shit for (You)s and actively punishes any form of sincerity. 4chan as a whole is infested with social cowards who cannot stand to have their true feelings challenged and thus must hide behind a ten layers of irony and /pol/schizo memes.
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>>729949752
>To me that sounds like they don't actually give a shit about reading them and just want a decoration
That is the vibe I get from the entire "booktok" thing.
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>>729943509
>Fourth Wing
>any better than ACOTAR
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>>729941658
I 100% agree with that and I'm not being ironic at all. It doesn't even have to have h scenes just put imply that some of the girls have a gock and put a nice bulge there.
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I want to write an urban fantasy book series so bad, but I live in fear it will appeal to no one on earth but me. Yet, if you're not writing for your own love of the game, is it even worth it?
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>>729950539
Hedon is the only one I can think of like that.
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>>729950394
I like how racism just sort of ended seemingly offscreen in stormlight.
Or how every single culture in his books are apparently uniformly conformed by all the people in it. If you have a country of lawfags every single person in it is 110% ride or die lawfag, except his token IM THE OPPOSITE OF MY PEOPLE BECAUSE IM QUIRKY BUT I MEAN LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE, I WILL DO EVERYTHING BACKWARDS.

He writes like a lazy DM, hes got his concept and wants to tell a story in it but no one involved is going to live in that world, you are just here so he can tell a quick story.
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>>729930667
>1. Civilization VI
The shitty version that crashes all the time? Pretty shit taste to be desunest.
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>>729950564
Both for pleasure and for money would be best I imagine. Heinlein said he wrote because he had done honest work (labor) before and he fucking hated it.
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>>729950564
Maybe study what tends to make it on royal road? Don't start with a grand novel.
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>>729950421
it's performative and a very surface level 'hobby' for many from what I've seen
a lot of them will just watch videos instead of reading the actual books (much like how people talk about video games they haven't even played)
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>>729950260
im not even a fan of the more outlandish concepts his recent books have had and even i think youre being a cherry picking faggot
>monarch of a religious country declares god is dead
the priesthood class literally excommunicate him and a host of characters turn hostile or uncooperative towards him as a result and its talked about constantly, and the only reason he keeps his throne is because he controls the military during a time of war and a government in exile, forcing his subjects to start huffing copium and come up with bullshit like 'well he has magic powers so clearly hes holy and this is all part of the almighty's plan'
>a queen is established at all
only after literally every single male inheritor either refused the throne or was unable to take it due to some other factor
>said queen starts talking about constitutional monarchies and changing the government
only in private talks with her family
>abolishing slavery
99% of slaves were parshmen who are now out of their control because they transformed and are literally making war on them, not to mention that its a government in exile and its dictates have almost zero actual effect in the larger world since the queens country is held by a hostile force and urithiru is ruled by her uncle who by the way doesnt abolish slavery like she does

see what youre not getting is that the character youre bitching about, jasnah, is just a figurehead and anyone with even a tiny hint of political acumen knows it. its said flat out several times that shes literally a monarch in exile, set up only to keep the alethi throne warm, and her ability to do anything is effectively nil since she has a throne but not a country to go with it since that country was conquered by their enemies. she has to huff copium and desperately try to maintain relevance by shoving herself into war strategy meetings where everyone knows shes just larping
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>>729946090
>I really don't see how it could be adapted to a game in an enjoyable way.
I don't like Mistborn much, but I sincerely don't see why you'd think any of that would affect a game's enjoyability. All of that is background detail that, while important to the story, is hardly ever the front and center of events.

All those details really just boilg donw to the setting being "Forever-Night Gothic Fantasy Where The Villain Won" and that's hardly an obstacle to game design.
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>>729950394
He once (decade+ ago) made a blogpost about how he isn't interested in showing samesex couples on page because of his religion or whatever and he got so much hate for it that he completely capitulated on all things woke and has since completely drank the koolaid
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>>729949108
What a downgrade. You can get a feel of the book from the first cover and it is decently engaging, the second one could be anything it could be in the self-help section and I wouldn't bat an eye.
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>>729941519
Sanitized western xianxia, aka garbage.
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>>729931161
>man who didn't have any investment in the series besides finishing up the books doesn't want to burn bridges with one of the main TV show producers in the world
It is a different turn of the wheel, after it's been rolled around through India and collected layers of human fecal matter.
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>>729950564
Even if no agent ever picks it up you can always stick it on amazon or RR and shill to urban fantasy communities like on reddit because the people in subs like that are always hungry for more "content" so at least you'll get some readers and feedback
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>>729950618
The worst part is the double standards. He has to go over the same character arcs repeatedly, because erm, aktually, you can't just "cure" mental illness ;^), but it's clearly not an issue anywhere else.
You can't just slap realism on one part and piss it up a wall for everything else, because that makes it crystal clear it's pandering rather than an actual artistic choice.
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>>729946090
you realize that rashed being an impulsive idiot who fucks the world over royally because he doesnt understand the forces hes toying with when he gets his taste of godhood is like, half the theme of the whole series, right?
the whole reason sazed was able to fix all that shit was because of the enormous amount of scientific knowledge he had stored away in those copper bracelets of his, which is what let him know shit like how far the planet has to be from the sun to not burn up. its literally a 'knowledge vs ignorance' parable
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>>729950672
I don't hate my day job so tbqh making money would be more of an added bonus than anything. My hope would just be people finding it entertaining.
>>729950798
That's honestly a pretty good idea. The idea I've been running with so far is having something more eposidic in style so over time I can either emphasize or pull back on a grand narritive depending on how things seem to be developing and what people like. But you're right I should try to connect myself to the current writing landscape more
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>>729950835
>>729950618
Meanwhile I just think back on watching Legend of the Galactic Heroes and how that author made so many complex interactions and arguments from different people from all walks of life from both societies and good ones at that.
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>>729951007
>you can't just "cure" mental illness ;^)
For that one he at least sort of has an excuse in that his own son is chronically depressed and so he's channeling his own experiences trying to help the mentally ill person in his life and it being a constant 3-steps-forward-2-steps-back.

But also Sanderson himself is too stable and milquetoast to write mental illness compellingly without heavy fantasy abstraction, and people around him keep insisting he abandon that in favor of "realistic depiction".
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>>729951105
The guy who wrote The Beginning After The End seems a good model. Granted the anime adaptation has been a total disaster.
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>>729951153
I feel like the guy could benefit from some extended interactions with people who've actually suffered and been through real shit. Combat veterans, and not just Americans or Mormons.
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>>729951164
I'd never even heard of that. I'll give it a peek, thanks!
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>>729950618
>>729951107
>racism ended offscreen in stormlight
>meanwhile several minor characters like the purelakers are explicitly shown to think that other peoples are dumbasses and weirdos
>including the main cast who think the shin are bizarre (and they are)
>literally every single country doesnt trust the others or the alethi because the alethi are portrayed as bloodthirsty warlord conquerors and its a major plot point as to why dalinar struggles to get the coalition off the ground, since everyone assumes he's going to use it to conquer everyone else as soon as possible
>nation of lawfags
>except some of the very first azish characters is a crew of literal thieves who are robbing the palace
>and later on it talks about generals who flunk tests deliberately so they can stay in the military because they know their country's government is way too obsessed with paperwork and it would suck ass dealing with that all day
>or the thaylens with the supposedly 'uniformly conformed people' except the queens own son the prince fucking hates dalinar's guts and gets into a duel with him the moment that he visits thaylen city

plus youre ignoring the fact that pretty much every single perspective character and their countries are unified insofar that odium and his forces are trying to kill them all.
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>>729943626
Samuel Roukin the voice actor for Ghost in Call of Duty did the narration for Sun Eater which just ended, the plot is only good from books 2-5 roukins va carries haha
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>>729950991
Also a very good idea
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>>729950832
At least the ocasional drama is fun.
>new indie writer wants to publish her first book, age of scorpius
>doesn't any chapter, or even a paragraph of her writing
>the only thing people know is that it is a world where your zodiac signs gives you powers
>marketing is done by either the author talking about herself or her showing the art that she commissioned for the character
>people still pre ordered thousands of copies, literally just from the vibes
>turns out it is barely readable and a shitstorm begins
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another stealth /lit/ thread hits the bump limit
good job guys
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>>729951423
Characters, positions, but he never delved into them. There was potential, but it gets sidelined more and more in favor this grand Avengers teamup confrontation. Having a common enemy isn't enough to prevent other conflicts between nominal allies, I think history is ample evidence to this effect.
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>>729941001
Seconding this Gormenghast is amazing probably one such a great cast. Steerpike is such a fascinating little psycho. Too bad the author got demencia .

the Lyonesse Trilogy is also great probably the best work of Jack Vance.
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>>729951763
>grand avengers teamup confrontation
>except its made very clear quite early on that the ultimate climax of the story isn't going to be some stupid avengers teamup, but just dalinar realizing the truth while other characters, flung across the world, desperately try to stop things from going to shit in a different way
anon there are plenty of legitimate criticisms to make about sandersons books. his therapist angle for kaladin for example is fucking retarded and stupid and it goes on forever and no one likes it
but this line youre on is a complete brainlet take
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>>729951763
Would that make for a satisfying story though? Everybody keeps bickering and infighting in the face of a bigger threat, bigger threat hits critical mass, steamrolls everyone, story ends. Can't speak for everybody else but who wants to read a story where your protagonists lose in the most unsatisfying way?
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>>729930535
fantasy slop with a woman with powers who's fighting against oppressive regime, that's it
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>>729944913
Dungeon Meshi is some of the best traditional western fantasy I've had the pleasure to read in quite a while
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>>729952175
am i supposed to be turned on or disgusted?
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>>729952280
disgusted
if you find that kind of disrespect a turn on then there's something wrong with your brain and i can only pray that your genes are not passed on
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>>729952334
>girl spitting on you isn't a turn on
you might be gay anon.
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>>729952280
Yes.
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>>729939402
I'm gonna find you
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>>729935937
>I disagree with the notion that he should've spoken up given he had no hand in the adaptation at all (that I know of), and the series focused on the starting books for obvious reason, so he had no hands in the material getting adapted either.
He was hired as a consultant in an obvious PR mode. He eventually revealed that they refused to listen to him and that he was disappointed, but that was after years of being too spineless to actually criticize the show in any meaningful way.



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