PC GAming is fuckedGPU prices are beyond fuckedIf you have a pc now be grateful
I am planning on playing games in 720p to build up resistance for when 240i is the only affordable option left
Well the good news is even AAA games are gonna have to optimize their shit now, there's no choice, you can't just expect everybody to slop up the next best GPU over the next several years. That's gonna be a buffer, at least.
>>729933136>"even AAA games are gonna have to optimize their shit now">being this naive
>>729933254Who are they making games for, anon? You can't just go "yeah this game is too high end for you, get a better machine" when nobody can do that.
>>729933136naive motherfucker
>>729933350Get a Geforce plus subscription.
>>729933420lol
>>729933053>You can order up to 5 unitsHOW MANY GOUS ARE YOU TRYING TO BUY, YOU SCALPER JEW NIGGER FAG?GO DIE YOU LEACH
>>729933053AI isn't profitable. It'll pop. In a year or two you'll get your parts on discount
>>729933567It's not profitable, but guess what they could reuse data centers for? To offer you a cloud-based PC. Farmers just spill milk on the ground instead of selling it cheaply, same will happen with consumer electronics
Steam Machine will save us!
>>729933567You fags have been saying AI is a fad and a bubble for years now.Bubbles tend to not last more than 12 months.
>>729933567AI bubble will pop eventually, but the prices on parts will not be going down.
>>729933567Ai IS protiftable short termyou're seeing it right now
>>729933350they will do that regardless and more studios will close in the future, it's a lose-lose situation
>>729933053>unfortunately we are unable to sell any cards for the 5070Ti, 5080 and 5090 modelsname 3 games
I game on Geforce Now, what are u poors?
>>729933567>TWO MORE YEARS SAAR YOU WILL BE HIRING INDIANS AGAIN SAAR AI NOT REAL INTELLIGENT IT BUBBLE OKAY?hey didn't you say this exact thing two years ago? crazy how time flies innit
>>729934240>Geforce Nowlatency
>>729933053Man, Im glad we didnt eat the rich when we had the chance. Surely, they will see the error of their ways.
>>729934240Your standards are so low you tolerate 100ms+ input delay.
>>729934285Melon said that once we get AGI we will live in a money-less utopia. I have no reason not to believe anything he says.
>>729934267>>729934317
>>729934439speed does not equal latency fucking retard ong
>>729934439Mine might not be as fast as yours, but it's well above the recommended speeds for cloud gaming. I've tried it, it's dogshit. The delay is like having 200ms ping in an online match.
>>729934531I play TF2 and OW2 and it's fine
>>729934562Your standards are low. Akin to someone saying 30fps is fine.
>>729933843The internet infrastructure isn't in place for that is the bigger issue. And having giant fucking tombs way out in bumfuck nowhere full of valuable parts just sitting there are just aching to be robbed, and hiring security to guard them 24/7 on top of that just wouldn't be profitable.They'd have to dismantle that shit and sell it because line would go up faster than trying to set up reliable cloud gaming.
>>729934439TO THE NVIDIA SERVER YOU FUCKTARD
>>729933254They're gonna have to since the next console generation will be delayed too
>>729933053Modern games suck dick anyway Who cares about GPUs
>>729933053should i upgrade my cpu now to an AM5 chip before it gets even worse??? My friend said it would go down in a few months
>>729934679they aren’t capable. competency crisis is in full swing with indians everywherethe market will crash
I have a 1070 and I still haven't seen a game worth upgrading for.
>>729934683>Modern games suck dick anyway>Who cares about GPUsIf you're a broke boy just say so
>>729934562>I play [games that actually require as much response as possible] and its fine3/10Could have fooled people initially but you made it too obvious at the end.
>>729934836But I do and I do topfrag and it plays well, have you even tried it?
>>729934814he’s right, there have only been a few games in the last 5 years worth playing and they can all run on a piece of shit 1060there is no reason to upgrade in the face of unprecedentedly poor running, low quality games
>>729933053>stadia and it's ilk comes backTell me these niggers aren't formed a syndicate now.
>>729934405He also told us we are on the mars since 2025
>>729934405Yeah but you won't be included in it since you are a drain on resources.
>>729934954>stadiaLETS GO
>>729933053you're a brown as shit
>>729933136more like technology is stuck for the coming years because devs need 70% of the steam hw survey to be able to run their games.
>>729933053>my 2 year old gpu is artifacting at random times. only happens in a browser but not when playing games how fucked am I?
>>729933053It ain't much, but I'll live.
>>729934974OH YEAH WELL IM SURE THIS TIME THE BILLIONAIRE ROBBER BARON WILL BE RIGHT
>>729935140why was baron called robber
>>729933136Lol no. Nvidia will just have to make 8x frame gen
>>729933136>wishful thinking
literally just ordered a 5070 tishould be a pretty huge jump from my 2070
>>729933053>he didn't purchased or boughted last year. Tfw I exclusively play 2015 games and older.>>729933053
>>729934562>playing esport titles>in 2026Lol
>>729933053the 5050 will do for you little faggot
>>729933053I started getting ram-related BSODs recently. I am on DDR4, though, so these are still not that expensive right?
>>729935276That's my thing too. What was the last decent game that has come out in the last five years that demanded good graphics hardware?
I just hope I can run the next singleplayer fromslop
>>729933136Bethesda cant even optimise an old ass game like Oblivion to not run all janky in the open world. We are cooked. (I said the thing.)
>>729934883The jist is up man, don't bother. You made it way too obvious.Do better next time.
>>729934439legit retard or just a troll... hmmm
>>729935487Final Fantasy VII: Rebirth.
>>729935673jig*tf did my brain just do
>>729935028Stadia 2/II/Next/Super/Beyond/PlusUltra/Electrig Boogaloo baybeeeee
dawn of the rpgmaker golden age
>>729934628>The internet infrastructure isn't in place for that is the bigger issue.Most schizo annons have no concept of this. Stadia wasn't some side project it was a full on attempt at cloud gaming and it failed hard.As for the average "YOU WON'T HAVE A CHOICE" schizo post, if the average user has to watch cat videos in modem quality or not engage with the internet, he will simply quit.
>>729933136I can't believe so many of you are this fucking stupid. Do you not see them laying the ground work to push cloud gaming in the near future? I'm not saying it will succeed, but they will attempt it.
>>729937256>it was a full on attempt at cloud gamingIt was a test. You're about to see what a full on attempt by corpos to force subscription based gaming on the goycattle looks like.
>>729934764Based. I'm sticking with my 2060 for the time being. What am I even upgrading for, the latest slop?
Just going to stick with my 3070 and try to ride it out and pray nothing breaks.Feel if I was to upgrade. I'd rather be going to AM5, and seeing as that's impossible now.
>>729933136AAA studios would rather go under than optimise. I am not joking.
>>729933350>dlss framegen can up that 15fps to 60 with its x4!>you also have to put the internal res at 480p and upscale it to 1440p as wellDeckies live like this btw
>>729934764>sold 4090 thinking to get a free upgrade with 5080>didnt happenGot a switch 2 and having fun tho Still have a gpu-less pc with 64gb of ddr5 ram, so its not allll bad
>>729937948Do you think the idea of cloud gaming is new or something?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnLiveIt doesn't matter how many 5090ps are sat in a warehouse thousand of miles away, nothing will get rid of the latency issue.
>>729939043they'll find a way to make games that work even with horrendous latency, ala runescape's 1.67 FPS. that is, the game will mostly play itself
AAA industry has basically collapsed. there's nothing in the pipeline except buncha vaporware that's been "in development" for a decade. like TES6 or GTA6. still no release dates for those games either
>>729939152No game that would play fine with 500ms of latency has a shred of appeal to normies. EVE Online effectively has this because the server's tick rate is literally 1, but that's a very slow paced game. Nothing remotely popular can be played at 500ms.
>>729933350>Who are they making games for, anon?Blackrock
Just ordered 5070ti.Hopefully with things looking the way they are devs can stop progressing the graphics by 5% and increasing the gpu requirements by 100%.I mean just look at his jewish shit- in 2019-2020 we had great looking games like CP2077, RDR2, M$ Flight Simulator, Doom Eternal and shit-ton of others and all of those worked great on rtx2070...What's the point of games looking barely any better but requiring not only 5070 but also dlss?Shits a scam.
5900x9070xt32GB of RAMI think I'm goodI'm not gonna brag because you know, any piece of hardware can die at any moment and---
>>729937948>cloud gaming.Stadia didn't work, the input lag killed it in its crib. And theres nothing companies can do to fix that unless they figure out how to make light move faster inside a light cable. They already tried to force 70-80 dollar games on us and failed miserably. If they try to force people to play games terrible controls, people will simply rather go back to playing old games or touching grass again.We will achieve regular space travel, fusion reactors and actual real AI before we can achieve "cloud gaming." because streaming games run into the issue of basic laws of physics.
Back in 2006 I remember people talking about their PCs with 8GB of memory. Fast forwards 20 years and my PC still has 8GB of memory and does everything I want it to. Why do people upgrade?
>>729934562I have met 3rd worlders who told me that playing with 200+ ping on my servers is fine for themnone of them were ever even near the top of any scoreboard
>>729939160>there are no longer any cards that will be capable of playing GTA6 available on the market>they have to delay it again, until after the shortage stops
i don't mind the concept of cloud gaming for single player noncompetitive games.even when GPU prices were sane, just paying the sub for a month to play a game wasn't a bad deal when you compared it to having to buy the hardware to run it.i only play competitive multiplayer games that run on ancient hardware at 300fps so i'll probably never subscribe to one of these things though.also you retards really think that shit has 500ms of latency? we had sub 100ms streaming solved like ten years ago. unless you live in a very obscure corner of the planet your latency is going be be below 100ms. some people have televisions with more input delay than that.it's like renting a car to go on a vacation compared to owning a car that you only drive on vacations. you don't have to keep paying the subscription fee if there aren't any games worth playing at that time and boy are there lots of times where there are no games worth playing.
>>729939043>this motherfucker thinks people accustomed to slop like TLOU will even mind several miliseconds of latency when they everything they do ingame takes 10 seconds, including turningStadia failed for more reasons than just latency.You have no idea how easy it is to convince people to adjust to mediocrity. All it takes is the right prices and some convenience along the way. An exclusive or "visuals you can't normally afford".
>>729939504>i don't mind the concept of cloud gaming for single player noncompetitive games.You do if you ever actually tried it. When the input lag hovers around half a second every FPS and 3rd person game feels like you're controlling a drunken hobo.
>>729939479normalfags will buy and play games even if they run sub 30 fps. they are the reason why consoles got away with dogshit performance for 3 decades.
>>729933981>Bubbles tend to not last more than 12 months.all the most famous bubbles since the 1600's have lasted 5-7 years anon.
>>729939508>and some convenience along the way.Heavy input lag is the antithesis of convenience.
Thanks God PC gaming is over. Get fucked jeets.
>>729933981>Bubbles tend to not last more than 12 months.Chinese housing bubble lasted for a good 10-15 years give or take. Dotcom bubble lasted around 2-4 years.
>>729939563i beat bloodborne through the playstation one.wasn't the most ideal but it was playable for sure and i was not going to buy a whole ps3 to play one game. i feel like i experienced the game and i'm probably not going to want to replay it because i'm not that kind of guy.if you already have a reasonable gaming PC these subscriptions are a fucking steal whenever the occasional game you really want to play but can't run comes out (to be fair this hasn't happened to me yet because my PC still runs everything i actually want to play).you could probably buy years of a subscription for the price of ram alone right now but you'd be retarded to constantly be paying for it when there aren't any interesting games to play.
MIGA!
>>729939808>i beat bloodborne through the playstation one.No you didn't, there wasn't a "playstation one", there was Google Stadia with a bunch of console ports. One of our clients brought a Stadia to our office and we tried Tomb Raider remake, Destiny 2 and Farming Simulator. Both Tomb Raider and Destiny 2 were unplayable because of input lag, Farming Simulator was somewhat tolerable.
>>729939415>2006>8GB of RAMMaybe some super high end PCs, 2GB was the standard 4GB was already plenty.
>>729939909https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Nowi totally imagined playing the entirety of bloodborne.
>>729939628Anon for years I've seen people justify input lag in ways you don't understand. Cloud gaming is already here and has been for a while. If I'm not mistaken Gamepass Ultimate still gives you access to a bunch of random 360 games that can only be played through the cloud. And some people do tolerate that. Why? "I don't have to bother with emulation". "I can play it from a device that isn't capable". There are people right now playing those games through the fucking deck. Microshit games through the cloud. And the cope? "Well you just need to adjust, it's a mental thing". "You have to be more precise with your movements". It'll turn into "skill issue, I eat shit just fine". What's worse, look forward for alternate methods of "mitigating" that through bullshit prediction methods. Watch out for marketers selling "negative input lag". You're too damn optimistic.
If you listen to people saying this is sustainable you're fucking retardedThe entire thing will blow up eventually, retail investors are already done pumping money into it
>>729940025>Anon for years I've seen people justify input lag in ways you don't understand.You've seen a bunch of Google shills talking about negative latency to suck the dick of Microsoft. None of them bought Stadia or played games with it.>You're too damn optimistic.They already tried that shit with Stadia and failed miserably. Nothing to do with optimism, this shit already happened.
>>729933053>Consumer tech dark age is initiated by AIHow ironic, I've already downloaded complete romsets for every console up to and including Xbox Phat and the console exclusives for PS3/360 so I'm just going to bow out of modern gaming entirely, I have enough of a backlog to last the rest of my life so unless FROM releases another Elden Ring mega hit or some indie darling manages to do it I'm just not going to buy any more vidya or hardware.
>>729940108It will continue so long as Jewish oligarchs support it.
>>729940114>Stadia stadia stadiaWake up, there's a lot of other cloud gaming services.
>>729933136*cackles in Unreal Engine*
>>729940025>through the fucking deck>"I don't have to bother with emulation"This is how you know that you shouldn't take any of these retards seriously since the hardware they are playing on is capable of doing just that and it's literally free and just a few clicks away.
>>729939808>Bloodborne>PS3>Gaming PC>SubscriptionYou couldn't be more retarded even if you tried, it's obvious that your underage or simply are too dumb to be allowed to have an opinion on anything, let alone vidya.
>>729939964I never said that wasn't the case. The one guy I remember talking about it most was known as a more high end gamer.
>>729940198No theres not.
>>729940513Ok so you're just in denial, got it
>>729934628yeah those data centers are a fucking gold mine just begging to be robbed.
Upgraded in March when everyone was talking about how this was going to happen very soon. I pity everyone who didn't listen
>>729940335Anon this isn't assuming they're intelligent. I'm talking about non-savvy people here, which is what most people are unfortunatelyIn an ideal world current consoles would flop much harder than they do but you have people who still love to buy cuckboxes and worry about something else like, I don't know, spending 3 hours straight watching instagram reels
>>729933053This is actually a good thing imo, if nobody can upgrade their gpu, games would have to either optimize their games or try to make the game be more then a glorified movie.
>>729933350>Release game for 80 bucks>It runs at 15 fps>Players in uproar>Shrug>Make $9999999999 dollars from clueless third worlders buying the game anywayI'm frankly surprised they're even bothering to still include executable files. I think we're one step removed from AAA videogame development being a money laundering front, at this point.
>>729940671does this mean linear kino is coming back?
>>729940671Naive child. This doesn't mean games get better optimised it means the game industry shifts to mobile games and shit that looks like a phone game. The market always moves towards the path of least resistance and in an era where nobody owns gaming hardware that is ugly f2p shit for normies.
>>729940671Anon that only works in extreme cases like ELEX 2, a game that couldn't run well on any hardware whatsoever at launch and looked like dogshit. It had to come from a bunch of germans with terrible reputation for people to send them to the shadow realm instead of just begrudgingly buying the shit like most people do.
>>729940646I've taken the time to recommend the Deck to any person who asks me for gaming advice, not because I love Volvo or steam but because even now it's the most retard proof machine with the most competitive price/performance ratio (if you buy it directly from Valve) that will allow these retards to ease into actually learning how to use a PC effectively, that it's a no-brainer unless you absolutely NEED Windows or more performance.One of my mutual friends could barely operate his iPhone and failed at basic tech related work tasks because of it but he was still interested in gayming enough to play WoW classic on his work laptop that was barely able to run it.He asked me for advice on buying a "better laptop" but his budget couldn't be stretched further than 700 bucks at the very best, he refused to get anything that wasn't portable so I just linked him the mid-range Deck.After that I just dangled some vidya over his head by hinting at FREE games that he could play and own if he just dared to press the dreaded "Desktop mode" option on his 'eck, loe and behold that was enough to push him into understanding the basics of how a linux PC functions and recently he figured out how to not only emulate games but also play on WoW private servers so that he could stop whining about how shit Blizzard is.He went from a tech-illiterate retard to actually knowing how to use a PC in the span of about a year as soon as he got a compelling enough reason to care, if vidya/tech trends don't change soon then A LOT more people are going to fall down the same rabbit hole since no sane individual wants to pay an arm and a leg for digital media of any kind which means that the only two ways forward for most of the consumer market is leaving it entirely or finding ways around it.
>>729941395I built a 3k pc a month ago and was more excited about upgrading my shitty 64gb deck with a second hand 256gb nvme that cost me 10 bucks. There is no reason to own a high end gaming pc unless you use it for work. What I fear will happen is young people just assume gaming is unaffordable because they see a 5090 costs a billion dollars when the steam deck is enough to experience everything worthwhile about the hobby.
I'm finishing up some games I havent played that I can run on my current hardware then I will probably begin to move away from PC gaming. It's a fun past time but at some point the cost of entry gets raised so high that you have to be a retard to keep paying
>>729939028You have an integrated GPU? How is it holding up in emulation?
>live in a hypercapitalist society>scarcity like in a communist shithole
>>729940606I for one hope it happens both because it would be funny to see the mafia hitting lonesome data centers to create a black market for graphics cards and also it would own the fucking morons investing so much money into a useless fucking idea.
>>729942214They don't use gaming GPUs and they don't even use consumer grade RAM. Data centers are machines with no use or value outside the bubble.
>>729933567There's a lot more details to this "pop", but you're basically right and guess who agrees? GPU manufacturers.They aren't opening up new GPU factories to meet current demand because they're expecting that demand to fall down in the future.The problem is it takes something like 3 years, IIRC, to get a new card factory up and running efficiently and big and small makers are expecting demand from AI databanks to fall in that timeframe.So we're still fucked for literally years.
>>729942326nothing a little modifications can't fix.
>>729935080reinstall drivers, had a similar issue few months back
>>729934171it's adapt or die right now
>>729933350Wasn't that the move Randy Pitchford pulled after the Borderlands 4 backlash?
the ram bubble is also Scam Altman is paying to have ram NOT be manufactured, as an act of intentional global sabotage. He's filling warehouses full of unassembled components just to cripple the competition (which is everyone outside the OpenAI scam whirlpool)
>>729937948>cloud gamingIt's not actually running on clouds dumbass, they still need GPUs and RAM to run those games and they don't want to pay for that just like you don't
>>729942532>just mod in an entire display output chain that is absent from the silicon bro
>>729942626Google jeet admitted GPUs are just laying around in his data warehouses unplugged lmao because they don't know what to do with them
>>729940671No, that means gaming will be a luxury only for millionaires.Gaming golden age was dominated by japanese companies. As soon as american companies started taking market share, it all went to shit.
>>729933254optimize or die
>AM4>4070ti super>36GB RAM>5800x3DI guess Im gonna wait out this generation like I originally planned and hope the ai bubble bursts before making my next big upgrade. I can play everything nearly maxxed at 1440p so its honestly no bother to me
>>729933350>Who are they making games for, anon?Whom was Concord and Veilguard made for? I'll leave you to answer that question as you look upon an economy that no longer needs consumers, just laborers.
>>729942769They'll optimize, for the cloud gaming hardware used in the data centers
>>729933053>go to Amazon>5070, 5070ti, 5080 selling for msrpWhat's the problem.
>>729942923The problem is those won't be available for much longer
>>729943004True but the time to pull the trigger is obviously now. It's not like ram where we were blindsided by the price jump. I'm honestly tempted to print out my invoice for the 32 gb of ddr5 I bought for 90 bucks and frame it.
>>729942906that no ones going to adopt, great business strategy.
>>729942923only 5070ti and below are msrp.5080 should be $999 but theyre $1200+
>>729942923It's clear you don't know shit about GPUs because the only models left are the ones nobody want as in the ones with massive coil whine, fan issues, thermal paste pump out, etc. Youre overpaying for trash.
>>729943607I'm not over paying for shit, I picked up a 5070ti for 749.99 and with a 25 dollar off coupon back in August. Have fun waiting for that bubble to burst, brown skin.
>Umm PC gaming isn't expensive, you're just poor!Well well well, consolekings win again
>>729934562>>729934883Post a video.
>Intel has a great chance to nab the home consumer marketHow are they going to fuck this up?
>>729944395We will find out once they launch the new platform.I really want them to keep making GPUs tho, low end needs some more competition and they aren't going to release high end GPU for a long time.
>>729935371>so these are still not that expensive right?300% more increase price. In a couple of months 500%.
I'm still rocking a ryzen 3600 and gtx 1080
Take me back to post dial up but pre smartphone internet world and let me just stay there, basically everything has gotten worse and the few things that have improved really haven't been worth it.
tfw walking out of the store with a 9070xt and seeing everybody else have an existential crisis over green logo company
I was thinking of buying a 5060ti but there aren't really any games I want to play.
>>729946659Likely too late for that, lmao.
>>729944395There's been zero news about Celestial in a while. I wonder if they are gonna silently bin at least any dGPU stuff?
>>729946718Are you living in some kind of bubble? I can buy one online right now.
>>729933053>If you have a pc now be gratefulWHAT IF YOU HAVE A GAMING LAPTOP?
>>729933053Guess I'll go ahead and buy that 1660ti that's available locally.>>729933136They're not going to optimize shit outside of using AI generated assets.
>>729934240Nice! let me play it too while being on the same city as you!Sorry for being in front of you in the queue and stealing your image quality in advance
>>729933053Everything i play run fine on thisFor normal people a 3060ti with 12GB of memory is probably more than enough as it's more or less the power of the PS5.
>>729933136They'll just upscale and use frame gen to get from 144p@15FPS to 1080p@30FPS.
>>729933053>trying to buy more than 5 GPUsYeah sure, "gaming"
>>729933053OP's picture tells me I need to order 5 or less graphics cards for my PC>when the FUCK did that happen, I only need 1 5090 into 1 PC to game
>>729934240do you play Project Diva on geforce now too?
>>729933136There will be benefits for the ACTUAL DYI PC gaming, but that excludes about 90 % of /v/. Devs will slow down how high they aim so in that sense it's true, but there will be little retroactive optimization. However if the worst of the doomers are right, this anon might be more right, because companies will have a harder time to market segment and justify the cuckening. VRAM segmentation is almost comical. At best brainwashed gam3rs might finally realize that regular updating tech is not some fundamental law of nature. Basically in this scenario PC parts become like the utilities you have at home, lasting a very long time and is meant to just work. Open source and standards have time to settle. It largely depends on whether gam3rs are going keep slop gobbling and be tricked by the likes of Nvidia.
>>729933136>All the vibe coded games are going to come out in the next 5 years and flop as no one will have a computer powerful enough to handle their shitty optimization
>>729946659Skill issue.
>>729946471AMD is raising prices too
>>729933053>1050ti and i5-9400F
>>729933053AAA games aren't worth playing anyways so who cares? Let the industry destroy itself.
