We need to have a conversation about vidya essayslop consumers.
or just the fact that 99% of gamers aren't even invested in the hobby, just invested in telling everyone they're invested in the hobby.
>>729940236we need to talk about twitter screenshot OPs
stop reposting tweets first
>>729940236steam chart fags are worse for thinking those numbers mean anything
Does he know that those numbers are the peak people playing at the same time? Not the total number of people who played it?
>>729940236>Peaked at 2000 playersAnd that means that only 2000 people have played it?
>>729940236The conversation was already held and the people have spoken
>>729940236fungertroons will seethe at this btw
>>729940236it will die out the moment people started to associate long essays as ai-written
GAMs(games as movies) has killed the industry
>>729940356Less actually.
>>729940236Those games are miserable to actually play so I'm not surprised their fans don't actually play them
>>729940236That game was huge before it released on steam retard
>>7299402362000 played at once doesn't mean in total.
>>729940469It means at most 20k played it in total
>>729940236All those people could have played at different times over the several years fear and hunger has been outAll steam concurrent player data shows is how big a launch was
>>729940236>not financially supporting the hobby but still enjoying itactually based
>>729940236>both f&h games had ~2000 players COMBINEDthat's actually insane. effectively nobody has ever played the fear and hunger series other than the essayists.
>>729940469You can employ some pretty simple math and take average PCU, game length, and release date and come up with a upper & lower bounds for total lifetime players. At 7 years, 11 hours and less than 1k average PCU, that means fewer than 6000 people have completed Fear & Hunger. So, The Transcord server is 10x over-represented and the YT consoomers are more than 1000x over represented. F&H fans are truly metafags.
The game is also available on itch, which is where I got mine
>>729940276is that so? that's kinda crazy to me, why would being a gamer be something you wanna brag about?feels like not that long ago when it was still something you'd be ridiculed for. playing games is cool now?things sure change fast
>jeet soolidCan the sharty or kiwitrannies do their jobs for once and doxx this retard.
>>729940236First worthwhile post I have seen from this jeet faggot (I wonder who he stole it from?)But yes Zoomers and Gen A don't play games much. They watch their favorite streamers play them and consume mindrot sloppa "essays" about them.
>>729940236F&H has cool lore but dogshit gameplay. I don't blame people for watching YouTube essays.
>>729940236>90% of the “community” doesn’t even play the gameOh so they're like /v/?
>>729940894he's a pollack living off norwegian welfare
>>729940356It means at one point 1691 people were playing one or the other at the same time. Lemme use a gangbang metaphor featuring OP's mom, if she took it in the mouth, ass, and pussy all at the same time, that would be an all-time peak of 3, but OP's mom has of course had sex with hundreds if not thousands of men, so the all-time peak doesn't tell you much in terms of total sales.
>>729941295That's a lot of words for a coping post.
Latinx can’t afford consoles but phones are subsidized so they watch
>>729941108
>>729940236The game is nearly unplayable
>>729940282>finnish dish is in swedishbad image
>>729940236Twitter screenshots and twitter faggots need to go, 4chan should sue them for over half their monthly revenue, we are the money makers not them.
>>729940236https://gamalytic.com/game/1002300https://gamalytic.com/game/2171440
>>729940236when you look at monthly users to concurrent users its normally x50-x100 the amountwhich means like 40-80k people play the game a month (not necessarily play to completion, but you know) and then it has been out for years as well.99% of people don't join any communities for games they play, they just play it and fuck off.I don't think this retard understand what concurrent users actually means and how many people you actually need to have a high CCU and how single player games will always have very different CCU compared to multiplayer games.
Soon these tranny devs will stop even releasing games on itch or steam and instead they upload a full playthrough of they game on youtube. And literally just never release the game. The entire thing is just a video on youtube of their game that redditors make video essays about. Obviously it needs to have some hidden ARG cancer as well.>>729941563shut the fuck up
>>729941563>>729940754It's literally impossible for 100k people to have played F&H unless they each played it for like 30 minutes. It's a meme game.
I mean I can't even buy the games in my country
>>729941893Pirate them retard
>>729941478Not video games
It's honestly way worse than you think if you account for achievement completion percentagesThis goes for both modern and retro games, it's rarely more than a triple digit number of peopleKeep in mind hundreds of thousands of individuals watch these essays and then only like 1% go on to experience the game for themselves
>>729940282>Pizza cakeI think people are just cowards
>>729942587Okay there's literally nothing wrong with that tho
>>729942587do you think 100% of the views on the video are people who watched the entire video?you know a view is counted after 3 seconds on the video, right anon? that most videos have less than 30% of the video get watched.the same thing you are whinging about also applies to videos.
>>729942642Just looking at it gave me heart attack
lol overrated shitty game with overrated fans The devs deserved to go bankrupt
>>729940402If you can be a fan of a sport without playing it, you can be a fan of a game without playing it.
As a huge silent hill 2 fan the remake was a great opportunity to finally play the game.
>>72994028212 is literally cum
I understand the point being made, and it’s hard to fault the reasoning. Hardware is expensive, games are expensive, single-player games often demand a large time commitment, and the experience itself can feel isolating.
Hahaha, Redditcynical finally posted le Pettings Cop 2?
>>729940282rollan
>>729940236So?People who play games and people who watch videos are not the same audience and it's crazy to expect them to be.
>>729942858>experience itself can feel isolating.what? the act of playing a single player game makes you feel lonely?Sometimes I forget how fucking pathetic normalfaggots are.>I had to spend 30 minutes alone in my room today! IM GOING FUCKING INSANE AAAAAAHHN SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!
>>729940282>75 Millionbøf>Bad
>>729943017why did you answer your own question? our issue is that devs and media treat them as the same audience and it's infuriating.
>>729940236quiet, NIGGER
>>729942823You can be the fan of it's story characters or aesthetics, but you can't be a fan of the game itself. That makes no sense.
>>729942858>729942858>Hardware is expensiveIt's rpgmaker, the fuck pc do you think you need?
>>729943157>our issue is that devs and media treat them as the same audienceNo they don't.The only people who treat them as the same are deeply confused people like the OP.
>>729943029The games are not 30 minutes long; they are tens of hours. If I play them, I miss out on time with friends, family, and other loved ones. >SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!?
>>729943237You're really drawing lines in the sand there friendo. Plenty of games have completely inconsequential gameplay. And what about games that have an easy difficulty mode that basically just turns it into a walking simulator?
>>729940356Don't be a faggot. Yeah, more than 2k people have played no game that has millions of sales has a player count that low. 2k concurrent players would normally mean like 15k sales. I am gonna be generous and say 30k sales (which is an unprecedented sales:ccp ratio). The game is way more popular to talk about than play.
>>729940236gee
My current vidya rotatation is fallout NV/4, elden ring, payday 2 and diablo 2. im not buying some retarded indie game in big 25 when it has a 90% chance of just being slop. of the 5 games I listed, all five need mods to actually reach their potential. you just get comfortable with what you have and what you know. will happen to all the non uncs reading this one day. It's like the never ending sopranos/wire rewatches. at a certain age, you just want to relax with what you know and not risk ur small amounts of time on some netflix drama or some indie shit on steam. why young people with ample free time aren't playing these games i really dont know
>>729940754You're insane if you think the average player completes ANY game even once. Average player plays literally 10 minutes and then forgets what he was doing and drops the game forever. Again, this applies to EVERY GAME.
dumb /v/tard twitternigger samefagging his threadvs semi-accurate statisticswho will win
>>729942823Bad analogy because professional sports are an extremely gatekept activity that less than 1% of people even have the genetics to be a viable player and then a fraction of that have the opportunity to even try and then a fraction of that make the team. An NFL roster has 52 men on it.No one who wants to play Persona 5 is stopped from doing so unless they are so poor they cannot afford any semi-modern system. The game itself is so easy and has difficulty options I think you could beat it if it was your first video game ever and you committed to learning about video games.
Fear & Hunger fucking sucks.Death to the turn-based genre. If you have no hand-eye coordination, you shouldn't be allowed to play video games.
>>729943523All games are turns based. In some games it's just always your turn.
>>729943425Why do you need to be playing FIVE games at once? Are you slut? Fuck you sissyboislut. There's no way you appreciate all those games.>>729943491Did you know you can join local sports clubs and play against other plebs?
>>729941563The ratio of peak players to owners can vary a lot if a game slowly gets attention compared if it was anticipated and 70% of the people that will ever buy it buy it in the first week
>>729943523brvtaltrvke>>729943615covntertrvke
>>729943390>I am gonna be generous and say 30k sales (which is an unprecedented sales:ccp ratio).I get that you're shitposting, but funger 1 has 20k reviews.Indie games on an average get 1 review per 100 purchases.
>>729943385>Plenty of games have completely inconsequential gameplay. And what about games that have an easy difficulty mode that basically just turns it into a walking simulator?So basically games that are so easy to get into that you have no excuse for not playing them while claiming to be a fan?Seems to me like anon drew his line just fine.
Fear and Hunger is a horror game and it's a challenging game to play for casuals so of course a lot of people experience it in video form. I bet lots of people that never played the game bought it just to support the dev.
>>729943472>t.view botter getting insecure about being called out
>>729943638>Did you know you can join local sports clubs and play against other plebs?This is also dumb. First of all, you're never going to get 22 men for a pick up game of football. Second of all, you're never going to get professional refs who police the game like it is real. Third, you're not going to playing with actual NFL equipment on a real regulation football field. Fourth, if you enjoy any other aspect of the game it is completely absent (atmosphere, teams, stakes, announcers, etc).You can, at best, have a very cheap imitation of a product you enjoy watching but do not have the opportunity to play. Meanwhile my cope of Persona 5 is the same as yours and I can play it by myself whenever I want. My experience of playing Persona 5 is the same as yours. My experience of playing QB in a 4 on 4 football game in the park is not really comparable to Drake Maye throwing the ball on Sunday.
>>729943638On rotation anon. I really only load up those five games
>>729940356You have to understand that child /v/ users think player counts matter for single player games
People sure put a lot of effort into being a fan of a game they don't play. Kinda seems like maybe they should just put that effort into... playing the game?
>>729940236pictured: pot calling a kettle black"oh im such a 4chan fan xD i follow twitter screenshot accounts"fuck off
>>729940236>Account based in Norwayit hurts so much...
We need to have a conversation about the endless spam of twitter screenshot threads.
>>729940282>nr1 worst dish is congealed blood balas>so many dishes included on the list are obviously put there only because blood is one of its main ingredients Was this survey done in Israel or something?
And don't forget that /v/ also thinks that twitch views matter tooYou are surrounded by children
>b-but the game has not tens of thousands of people playing at the same timeWhy do wagies seethe so much when someone becomes successful and leaves the hamster wheel?
>>729943703It's like 1:35 average but yeah, estimating by review count is way more reasonable.
>>729940282Does Scotland deserve to be on this list? >Take delicious item>Make it more delicious by deep frying it
>>729943992crab bucket
>>729940236In F&H’s case it actually is troonsThe game stars one and the most popular lore videos were made by oneNot saying this to shit on the game, it’s just simply true
>>729943880go punch him in his polish nose and fuck his sisterit's the only way you'll recover your countries /v/honor
Do people unironically not understand that's just the concurrent players at any given time?
>>729940236>people love e-celebs>OP posts oneOP did you stop to think how FUCKING STUPID YOU ARE?No of course you didn't. Faggot. Kill yourself.
>>729942849Its overcooked heart of palm actually.
>>729940236why is this nigga throwing stones in a glass househe's a failed twitch streamer
>>729944095They do but pretend that they don't to shitpost
If some guy makes a popular video about your game that's just free advertisement and more people will play it
>>729940236Evidently brutal when you check achievements and reviews.>beat the first level: 27.6% players have this achievement>genuinely amazing! it's one of the best games ever! (1.8 hrs on record (0.6 hrs at review time))This is why the presentation and first hours of 'game' is key to devs and why many games fall hard after the middle/end. They know that players rarely finish games, that at the first obstacle, half (or more) simply quit, and that even those who don't quit will probably have one or two "play sessions" and then move on to something else.
>>729943787>you're never going to get professional refs who police the game like it is realWhat do you think sportsball is for kids? It's very serious. Dumb fuck.
>>729944060what? I don't care about him/her/whatever. I'm just sad it hurts the narrative.
>>729940402>the people
>>729940282>Bongistan has 4 items on this list when you combine England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland.>Italy also has 4 items on this list.Bong cuisine confirmed to be on the same level as the Pastafags'.
>>729944153>makes thousands of faggots like you talking about himFailed. You're falling for his trap. You fucking retards.
>>729940236One hour play session for each member over 24 hours, distributed evenly around the clock, would be 2500 concurrent players at any given time. maybe OP is too retarded to understand that the market is global and people need to sleep and work, and they don't play the same game every day.
>Just looking at it gave me heart attack
OoooohThis is a Sharteen ragebait ahitpost threadGo home everyone
>>729944268I feel this is the opposite and almost every game the first few hours are total shit and then it gets much better while peaking in mid game.
>>729942823I find that the whole "game is interesting, but I'd never want to play it" thing tends to describe the artistic side of games. Like when they're a medium for conveying a story, message, feeling, or mood instead of just a well of fun. These kinds of games tend to experiment, or even purposely twist conventional mechanics for the sole reason of fucking with the player. They're typically not that fun to play, but as an experience are impactful.
Finally watched the whole thingI think his video was pretty good and now I will never have to play the gameIt looks pretty shitty desu lol
>>729943910i thought they loved using the blood of christian european children in their matza cookies
>>729940282>marmite and chip sandwichas an ausfailian, that shit tastes exquisite. fuck you.
Fear and Hunger is in the Steam family Library I have with my friends, worth a shot?
>>729944447you are more insufferable than anyone you're making fun of, sharteen
>HOLY FUCKING SHIT>XITTER>E-CELEBS>WOW LETS TALK ABOUT THIS ALL DAY I HATE VIDEOGAMES>I LOVE INTERNET MENFaggots all of you.
>>729944638nah just watch the videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrTwapNWO6I
>>729944638Do you like trial and error? Because this game has tons of choices where there is only 1 correct choice and the other is instadeath. You can't tell in most cases which is which
>huge Fear and Hunger fan excited to play it for the first time
>>729944702But I like playing games.>>729944792That bad?
>>729944680>>I LOVE INTERNET MENthis one is true*smooches u*
>>729940282>Gachas
The games aren't very fun unless you know exactly what to do, so It makes sense to just forgo the illusion of choice and just watch someone who's good at it play.
>>729943998Games with mentally ill schizo fanbases have higher review:purchase* ratios.Look at slop like Black Souls, which has an extreme number of fans who leave glowing reviews for the game undeservedly despite the fact that they have never and will never pay a cent for the game since they pirate it instead of actually paying for porn slop.
Hey guys you sucking those e-celebs giving all your money away like a boss? Advertising for indians like a fucking KING?YESKEEP IT UPWHOOOOOOOOOOOOH
>>729944947what westoidslop like lona and femoid and hunger (not even a porn game) doing with 3 kino games?
>>729940236A lot of people become interested in a game's lore but don't like its gameplay, or they're too casual and are unwilling to learn how to play it.It's fine. If they didn't watch a let's play or video essays they would simply not be there. And their online activity indirectly helps promote the games.
>>729945112>their online activity indirectly helps promote the games.And that's the problem. Raw sewage like Trial & Error needs the opposite of promotion. It needs to be removed entirely from existence on the basis of being irredeemable garbage.
>>729940236Steam chart fags are so retarded. Lets not pretend you couldn't get this from itch or outright pirate it since they're rpgmaker games.
>>729940402This is only true for MGS4.Watched it, all 12 hours of it, didn't feel like I missed anything despite not """playing""" it. Played all the previous MGSs and MGs and liked them. One day I'll go through 5 as well. One day.
That makes sense. Once you actually play the game enough you stop being a fan of it, so the remaining fanbase would be people who haven't invested much time in playing it.
>>729944863Yea it's that bad, you can like the aesthetics or "story" but the gameplay is unbelievably trash. You can always download it quick, it's a small game. You can have your own opinion within the hour
>>729940282Apparently chapalele is just potato bread, how bad can that be?Also where's surstromming or century egg?
>>729941295Kek
>>729945228I beat the game, never watched a single video on it. It's supreme kino of the highest order.
okwe dont care
>>729940236Is it more likely that ten percent of fans are responsible for 100% of the play time, or that a Twitter user with a Joker pfp doesn't understand how non-live service games work?
>make a movie game>get mad when people just watch a streamer "play" the "game"games with gameplay sell just fine. just don't make a movie game ha ha just make an actual video game
People buying a game even if they barely or not play it at all is the only thing that makes video game development even sustainable so I'm not sure why people always keep seething about it.
>>729945424You can shit on RPG maker games all you want anon but I don't think they qualify as movie games.CG hunters maybe if its pornographic, but that clearly doesn't appeal here.
>>729940236I know this is complete bullshit after seeing the other posts in this thread but I don't like the people that like this game so I'll believe it anyway.
>>729945267If this were 2012 I'd play the game on livestream for my bros on /v/ so they can laugh at me.Miss those days.
>>729944004Ruining your food to be the equivalent of a week's caloric intake isn't cuisine, ya thin cunt!
2000 peak is HUGE for an indie game, can this dumb jeet shut the fuck up
>>729944947>MonMusu quest is a 5/10Fucking lmao.Objectively speaking the game is below an alpha test build, doesn't even reach 0/10.BUTIt is jank kino in its own way. Making an """""""""""""""""rpg"""""""""""""" in what is essentially a visual novel engine is ridiculous, but it works (barely). And the story is pretty great as well.People remember it for its story, and because how it works as a game it makes you more engaged in its story. The same thing told as a book wouldn't have the same impact. That doesn't mean the story is somehow bad, it works in the medium its presented. If you only boil it down to the sequence of events and words on a page you're missing what it actually is.
>>729942717lil bitch
>>729940875Because standards have dropped so low, any "hobby" that isn't scrolling on social media is mind-blowing to normalfags.
>>729943158Pirat Software doing same shit
>>729944153SIX SEVEN
>>729945471>You can shit on RPG maker games all you want anon but I don't think they qualify as movie games.Most RPGM Maker slop absolutely does count as movie games. Walking simulator horror garbage being the predominantly popular genre and not "real" games. And no, Fear & Hunger doesn't count as a real game because it's all coin flips and artificial gameplay.
>>729943523But i love tactical games like XCOM or Battle Brothers
>>729940236It's the same with pathologic. The games are not very fun to play, but the lore and difficulty makes em fascinating.
>>729945754>And no, Fear & Hunger doesn't count as a real game because it's all coin flips and artificial gameplay.Does Baldur gate not count as a 'real game' since it uses dice rolls, therefore its artifical gameplay?Very strange stance
>>729944343>listening to anything a jeet or sandnigger saysno thanks, could as well listen to a screeching woman then
SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>729940303>>729940303>>729940303>>729940347>>729940347>>729940347Fucking this
>>729941108DESTROYED
>>729945805Baldur's Gate is a real game, because I personally like it and it is a masterpiece of CRPG design. It and Baldur's Gate 2 are both perfect examples of how to translate tabletop gameplay into the computer realm with minimal compromise.Trial & Error is fake gameplay because you are literally expected to keep starting the game over and over and over each time you fall into noob traps which have no actual solution beyond memorization.
>>729945060Lona was made by a Taiwanese
>>729940282I'm honestly surprised to see England not taking half of the image itself.Also funny to see so many Spain ones and how all of Peru's dishes are different forms of cooking a guinea pig.
>>729943940What the fuck? Why the fuck would twatch views ever matter?Holy fuck what the hell has happened to /v/?
>>729940347You severely underestimate how brown modern 4chan is. He probably cant even read and comprehend what that actually means.
>>729945270And black pudding is delicious, and for some reason it appears on there three times, four if you counts blodpalt.
>>729943472>Semi accurate statisticsLMAO fucking retard. You can generally multiply all time high by ~20 and get the ballpark of steam sales. Obviously who fucking knows about gog and piracy
>>729940236Maybe because the games aren't fun to play.
>>729946256> You can generally multiply all time high by ~20 and get the ballpark of steam salesYou're retarded.
There's nothing to be gained by playing Fear and Hunger for yourself when the actual gameplay is little more than knowledge checks that cannot be intuited beforehand in the vast majority of cases and a nauseatingly unfun coin flip system which dictates whether or not you'll be starved for resources. Everything together might sell the "this world is unfair" atmosphere, but it sure as fuck doesn't make for an entertaining game to play.
>>729940236total steamchart faggotry death
>>729946537It's ok to be bad at games.
>>729945832Imagine how fucking dumb you must be, then.
Why has nobody mentioned the Boxleiter method for calculating sales yet? It's not a prediction of actual player count but it should give decently concrete idea.
>>729946592What's amusing to me the most is the fact that people call Trial & Error a "jrpg without the grind"No, my fucking ass, there is definitely a grind. The grind of you restarting over and over and over every time completely unfair, unavoidable shit happens that forces you into either an unwinnable situation or ends your game outright.
>>729942823You are objectively not a fan of the sport. You are a fan of the proscene. 99.99% of footballfans hate actually playing it. With games there's a clear difference. You have people who like the game for its gameplay (or the whole package), and fags who like the idea of the game likely from seeing the story behind it. The fags are not gamers. They enjoy the franchise but they need to be seperated
>>729940282>spain>nothing but sandwiches wat
>>729944947MGQP is legitimately a 7-8/10 game but yeah the VN is a 2/10 game
>>729942823This is true, but we tend to call them secondaries, or just fans of the brand (with a few qualifiers to make it clear that they do not have any hands-on with the game itself).
>twitter screencap of a nigger known for reposting screencaps for engagement left alone>monster girl thread deleted in a heartbeat As more time passes, my sympathies for VB grow more and more.
>>729940236Remember when game companies said gameplay videos would kill games, and everyone brushed it off?My nephews literally know about games they never played
>>729946537Pretty much thisI played Fear and Hunger Termina for like few hours and no longer cared about it when dying for the 10 times due to "trial and error" mistakes. I simply watched a lets play and i learned about the story that way.
>>729946873noooooo my /jp/ general!!
>>729940236>Talks about how people just watch videos instead of play games>Whilst stealing images/memes of /v/ and publicizing them for all of twitterPot kettle black. Stupid fuck should eat a bullet.
>>729946605why do you argue like a screeching woman?
>>729940402The real answer is obviously that it depends on the game.
Steamnumbers don't account for console, gog, or piracyHow do you faggots refute against that?
>>729947246We compare it to other games on steamcharts since that's true for all games
>>729940236>ebin 4chan screenshot twatter faggotopinion discarded
>>729940282>that many bocadillos on the listWhat's going on in Spain?
>>729945270>Also where's surstromming or century egg?Those are ingredients not dishes
>>729943390>sales:ccp ratioare there any numbers for what this ratio looks like on average?
>>729940236>look it up>it's in the "4 niggas in a row" genreno fucking wonder nobody wants to play it
>Instagram post about "how many trees are in skyrim">comments are all giddy and glazing the "sleaze mustsche man holding mic" Youtubers.Yeah I don't have to watch but I hate the glaze
>>729940236same thing happened with FNAF,
>>729945832Seeing as jeets and muzzies dominate yurop, and niggers and spic dominate muttistan who are you supposed to listen to?
There's only one solution: ban all let's plays and video essays from youtube
FUCKING XITTERYES WE LOVE XITTERXITTER POSTKEEP IT UP FRIENDSWOWEBIN
>>729948747
>>729948718>Nazoid has an AGP avatarlike pottery
>>729948747found the bluesky commie
>>729948382>>729940236Wait isn't this a porn game? How is there so much normie discourse around it?
>>729940236who the fuck wants to actually play a shitty RPG maker game
>>729943910blood shouldn't be an ingredient in anything retard
>>729940282>33. Kaeng hang le>pork curry made with dried spices and long-grained riceI don't get it. Why the hate?
>>729948678Delusional retard. Look up the % of jeets and muslims in all major EU countries. In most countries they are not even 10% of the population. You unironically fell for media over representation and 4chan memes on how the entire world is "le brown". Now go ahead and cherry pick one image of London that is supposed to prove me wrong.
>>729948747Xitter at least offers some kind of discussion. If you stick to /v/ you just see the same arguments and buzzword throwing imbeciles in 90% of threads.>You're brown>Le Jeet>Hueh hueh, touched a nerve?>Concession acceptedPeople on 4chan talk like literal mongoloid imbeciles
>>729949049>Not even 10%You don't understand how that number is still fucking massive? And then we are talking about only jeets here? They all live in the cities as well with most other "minorities". If I walk to the grocery store here and back I will have not heard one word spoken in my native language and not seen one single white person
>>729940236Isn't Fear & hunger one of those porn games? That existed long before its steam release?That's like asking why Sengoku Rance won't have 9999999 players on steam when it releases despite everyone having played it
>>729940236so it's exactly like /v/ where people here dont even talk about video games they play anymore, they just shit relentlessly on games they never played?
>>729949459loolCalled out
>>729940236why you retards keep using peak players as an indication of game sales? If the game sold about 60k then 1k peak players sounds more than reasonable.
>>729940282>ramen burgerThe fuck?
It's a fucking rough game to play. I've bounced off both multiple times.
>>729942642I've seen a lot of food I didn't know existed on this list and pizza cake is one of the best. Scotland does a deep fried pizza too. Anyway, I'm just finishing my jellies eels.
>>729940282I would have expected anything from my country but Zungenwurst? Tongue is delicious
>>729940282*sigh* rorr.
Didn't the guy who made Fear & Hunger make millions of dollars just slowly over time?
>>729940875>why would being a gamer be something you wanna brag about?Because the industry started making billions upon billions, surpassing all other forms of entertainment and people like Pewdiepie (in other words, people who aren't ugly) became multimillionaires not even from making games, but merely by playing them. Also games like Call of Duty normalized games so that chads openly talked about them and not just ugly nerds. You can pretty much pinpoint when fake gamers started coming out of the woodwork to the release date of Modern Warfare.
>>729945270My shit after I eat hamburger
Suda51 fans are the same wayEspecially the people who are big "fans" of his VNs but never touched them
>>729942823TRVKE NVKE
>>729943158What's amazing is that both places are just farming from the other. It's like a shitpost bubble economy
>>729940236To be fair, F&H1 and 2 have dismal gameplay, and should have just been VNs or some other genre. Nobody ACTUALLY enjoys RPGmakerslop in the big 26.
>>729943390>2k concurrent players would normally mean like 15k sales.Shitposting meta is so dramatically disconnected from reality it's not even funny. You don't account for:>people who bought the game and never ran it once (there is more of those than you think for every game)>people who bought the game and have 1-2 hours of playtime total>people playing the game in short bursts, having little impact on concurrent user stats>the fact that it's a single player game and people move on from those after finishing them, so the player count is spread over years after release
>>729947528Cheap backpacker tourists that can't afford proper meals and just buy sandwiches so the bread soaks up the booze
>>729940282>Zungenwurst (tongue sausage) at 69
>>729940402I believe you can be a fan of the story but if you try to talk about the gameplay with me after only watching a playthrough I'm going to slap you
>>729951893Expedition 33 gameplay is ass
>>729940402The real question is why do you want to be a fan of something you are not engaging with? This is why I never understood simping. You are bascaily wasting your time on something that another person will enjoy.
>>729948139It's really not a good metric to use for sales estimation. Reviews counts are better, you can multiply the number by 35 like another anon said, however this will underestimate sales for older games where you were less encitivized by Steam to leave reviews and it will overestimate sales for newer meme games with rabid fanbases who are more likely to leave reviews.
>>729940282Luther Burger is insanely unhealthy but it tastes good
>>729940236we need to legally mandate maths courses that people have to pass before we allow them access to twitter and sales pageswhat these charts are measuring is how many people are playing in a single timeframe. it's obviously not measuring how many people play in total, because there are hundreds of reasons people might be playing at different times, from major things like timezones and days of the week to more simpler things like they play at 4pm instead of 4:15pm like someone elsehere's an example. In November, Helldivers 2 was announced as having sold ~13,000,000 copies. Yet the SteamDB peak is only 458,000. This means the SteamDB numbers represent 3.5% of its total salesAnother example, this time of a game you'd expect everyone played at once: Silksong. It sold ~6,000,000 copies on PC, with a SteamDB peak of 587,000. That's a ratio of 9.7%, the highest yet, but still pitifulThe ratios only get worse for less peak-y games. We all intuitively know that Five Nights at Freddy's sold a bunch, around 3,100,000 copies, yet its peak is very tiny, only ~1500. That's a ratio of 0.04%. FNAF is likely the closest approximate, but it's almost been out about twice as long as F&H, so let's double and round the ratio to 0.1%. That estimates sales of ~1,100,000, minimum.
>>729941182he's making millions off 4chan posts why would he need welfare
>>729952573I would also argue that you will see a bigger drop off in single player games the longer they are out, it's not like they lose a steady amount of % per year. Also depends on what single player we are talking about, morrowind and stalker retain a lot more people than telltales:the walking dead
>>729940276The hobby of gaymers is not gaming, but consumption. So naturally any debtcattle gaymer who can't consume does instead participate in the astroturfing FOMO/FOTM turbofaggotry and n-th hand [brand] tribalism.
>>729945975Most british meals are not bad, just mid and bland.They are not meant for dining because britain doesnt have a common dining culture. The ones listed are time capsuled memes kept in memory only out of tradition that nobody sane touches.Funny how wales somehow isnt this bad despite being as impoverished as scotland
>>729940236or they are smart and didnt pay a cent for this shit
>>729953261Wales isn't a real place and hasn't been for a thousand years.
>>729940347>>729940356>>729940469>>729941295This is pedantically correct but dishonest, Peak player count correlates without fail into sales. This game isn't magical such that it's unique players are spread out over time. All games, with a few exceptions, peak around release as people buy the game, play it immediately, then stop later. Is it POSSIBLE that hundreds of thousands of people bought and played the game? Sure, I guess. But highly unlikely. Peak player count is a good indicator to the contrary even if not the direct measurement.Civ VI for example sold the best and has the highest peak player count of all Civ games. V is second has sold the second most. VII isn't final yet, but it will probably be close to five given the similar peak player counts
>>729954773See >>729941549
>>729940236>make game that's too hard and innaccesible by design>99% of people get filtered by itWoah who could have seen that coming.
>>729948841I wouldn't argue it counts as porn, it contains sexual content but its meant to be shocking and disturbing.
>>729940282Eel bros...
>>729954773You are retarded. There can be games with as low as 129 max players at the same time with 4000+ reviews, negative or positive
>>729942823Most people are not fan of the sport itself but of the circumstantial elements or the aesthetics, just like with videogames. Majority of people in any given hobby are posers and acting performative for social gain. The sooner you understand this the less frustrated you end up being with others and learn to empathize + look at yourself and start being more honest with your hobbies, what you enjoy and what you don't.
>>729940236Those numbers don't mean anything, what's your point? I played Funger 1 for over 300 hours, got 6 endings AND watch the essays - it's good fun. 2k at once ain't bad, considering a single guy created one of the best survival horrors out there, which was largely unknown for the years after its release .. for which I'm grateful desu
>>729946537Anon nothing is gained from playing videos game other than your own enjoyment, some people are just masochistic and love some painful gameplay.
>>729943158meanwhile you did the exact same on the bottom but to farm engagement on 4chan
That is messed up, not sure how but the devs need to get a cut of the 60k number
>>729940282>tfw your country's not on the list
>>729955162Now hold on a little bit, how does this prove me wrong? F & H was released in 2019 and 2 was released in 2022. The first one hasn't even broke 7 hundred thousand sales. Like, don't get me wrong, that's still good, but the amount of praise it gets does not equate to the actual sales figures over 7 years. We are talking about 100K copies sold per year.But fine you are right about one thing. The ratio of copies sold to peak player count is over 600 where on average it is about 130 ish for major titles. This means that either the sales are evenly distributed over time, or that the game is actually not as fun as people say and dropped it quickly. The answer is likely a combination of both,>>729955519I did not say they could not. You have missed the point of what I said entirely. Peak player count is an INDICATOR that is more or less accurate in predicting sales when year released is accounted for. >>729955162 did not control for the year released in his rebuttle.
>>729957101Ok your post makes sense. Have a great day
niggerfaggotcurse vishnugas the kikes
>>729940282I'm Spanish and all of the dishes here are perfectly serviceable 5/10s breakfasts, I mean they're literally just decently tasty thing + bread.Gazpacho de Mango is absolutely foul though that I do agree and should be number one.
>>729943158instabanned from the cyberbullying forum for being too big of an obnoxious faggot award
>>729948841It's shipslop, like deltatroon, undertranny, and all modern anime. It's obese people making entire discussions about shipping characters
>>729957757This
>>729940236Bought the itch.io versions, nigger. Porn engine games can never be anything but a zip file.
>>729940236Given that both games were released quite a while back, given that they still pull numbers close to their peak is very impressive.Fear and Hunger games are type that you hear about, then buy them on Steam sale, and try them out. There's really not some kind of sudden boom to people trying them, unlike with Silksong. I'm pretty sure that all 60k people in the server did play the game.
>>729940236This is what happens when a generation of kids grows up watching games instead of playing them. The Dev actually makes no money and it exists as content for e-celebs.
>>729940282how do you roll this?
>>729943381>SAVE ME NIGGERMAN!>?Spoonfeeding time. H.P. Lovecraft had a black cat as a family pet when he was young. The cat was named "niggerman". Several years back (probably more like 8 or 9 years at this point) there was a semi-short lived meme about Lovecraft witnessing some incomprehensible horror (often an Italian person or other, swarthier human) and calling out to his pet cat, niggerman, to come save him.
>>729940236this fag has the gayest voice of anyone to ever use the internet
>>729940236I remember well over a decade+ ago, I called fans of let's plays retards because why not just play the game yourself? You aren't a fan if you don't play it and instead, watch someone else play it, it's that simple.Of course, I was called "dumb and wrong" because "people who watch others play it ARE fans because they do both, watch someone play and play it themselves" I knew, without a shadow of a doubt, that was a lie. Shit like this just vindicates me.However, the moral of the story: If you watch some douche on YouTube play a game while you, yourself, DON'T play that game, then you are NOT a fan of it, you are a backseat, coping, and larping retard. Enough said
>>729940236don't blame themwho'd wanna play rpgmaker slop
>>729948828>English helmetLmfao, you're a dumb fucking retard. Kys
>>729940282People aren't noticing because it's in spanish but the Colombian dish is literal fucking bugs. I'm colombian and this is the first time I'm aware of its existence
>>729946020>Account based in NorwaySo sad.
>>729940282is 45 literally a marinated rat skull
>>729940282Ramen and rice burgers may have stupid buns, but there's no way they can be worse than plates of actual bugs.
>>729960812Fried duck skull. 11 is also a boiled sheep skull.
>>729940402reminder that these are the same people who tell devs how to change your favorite series to cater to them
