Whats the difference between a Warrior and a Knight?
>>729942523Knights have oaths and are honor bound to serve the king, warriors are just mercenaries.
>>729942523Knightly Code of Conduct, chivalry.
>>729942523IIRC warriors have way too many weapon and armor skills making them redundant, but they have better attributes due to not wasting one of them on personality. I don't remember what skills the knight has but its probably slightly better. At least this is for Morrowind and Oblivion probably removed 90% of the skills.
>>729942523What's the difference between a Paladin and a Crusader?
>>729942523Knights are usually sworn to some fucker. It is also expected that they can perform in mounted combat. A warrior is just some random nigga with a weapon and maybe some armor.
>>729942523Knights are nobility and born with a silver spoon in their mouth to defend king and country, but will probably abuse their power and resources for personal gain. A warrior is someone whos had loads more real, hardened experience and wisdom in battle.
>>729942523none because you will be on max stats by lvl 11-14 and enchanting every armor with more stats the moment daedra start spawningthe only thing leveling naturally is your weapon skill, everything else will be boosted with septim dollars
>>729942523K***ht is a title that indicates nobility. Warrior is a dude with a sword.
>knightNobility, so rich (?) and has lots of lands.Doesn't necessarily fight, the French Academy writers walk around with swords so they're probably all knights.
>>729942523Knigga is a tankWarrior is a DPS.
>>729942523Two-hander vs sword and board. Which is which? Up to you.>>729942826Oh now this one is just Paladin = blunt&board while Crusader = twohander
>>729942826Paladin protectsCrusader crusades
>>729942523Knights are nobles or someohe who works for them and they always have at least a bunch of lackeys who will fuck your shit up.
>>729942523A knight is a special case of a warrior.
>>729942523not every warrior is a knight but every knight is a warrior
>>729943213>every knight is a warriorThis isn't even true in real life.
>>729942851>Knights are nobility and born with a silver spoon in their mouth to defend king and country, but will probably abuse their power and resources for personal gain.Sandor Clegane, is that you?
>>729943294isn't a warrior anyone who knows how to fight?
>>729942523Warrior has more atk and less def
>>729943326Anyone who knows how to fight in armed melee combat primarily. But all sorts of people have been knighted IRL, not just guys good with swords or clubs.
>>729942523I loved the class art from Oblivion. It made my mind wander as a kid
What's the difference between a Fighter, Warrior and Barbarian?
>>729943396the bar is low?
>>729943402>fighterSome random faggot with a weapon>warriorA distinguished fighter>barbarianSome random savage faggot with a weapon
>>729943402Fighter>High Attack>High AgilityWarrior>High Attack>High DefenseBarbarian>High Attack>High Health
>>729943653The opposite actually. People have been knighted for political reasons, diplomatic feats or military strategies for battles the knight took no part in. It's a social class, nit a combat skill class.
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>>729944030i thought they were soldiers
>>729943402>fighterSomeone who knows how to fight (FIGHTer)>warriorSomeone who has military training or experience (WARrior)>barbarianThe romans called them this because they were untrained savages who made up for their lack of skill by being especially violent (romoids said they spoke BARBAR aka gibberish)
>>729944106Nope. Sometimes commanders and generals where knights as well. Look at King Arthur's roundtable.
>>729944106How would you rate Christopher Nolan's military career?
>>729944229well didn't the generals and commanders fight at any point or have experience on the field?
>>729944289the actor? I know nothing about him.I don't really like celebrity shit.
>>729943402>BarbarianMeans something like "someone whose language I don't understand".
Warrior is a skill, a knight is a job
>>729944354The point was more about celebrities without military careers have been knighted
>>729944468he was knighted?
>>729944487Yeah apparently it happened in 2024https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/movies/2024/12/19/christopher-nolan-emma-thomas-knighthood-king-charles/77084114007/
It obviously depends on the game, but broadly speaking I imagine the following differences:Knight:>Possibly mounted>Might involve knightly vows or demands for chivalrous code of conduct>Might involve leadership-themed combat skills, often making use of charisma as a secondary stat>Focuses entirely on heavy armour and a "knightly" set of weapons (swords, maces, lances, polearms)>Has non-combat skills fitting of an aristocrat, like persuasion, leadership, diplomacy, literary languages, or knowledge regarding topics of academic natureWarrior:>Always fights on foot>Not limited to specific set of weapons, but can specialize in any kind, including the knightly weapons, but also axes, spears, clubs, daggers, bows, crossbows, firearms, and even some exotic weapon types, possibly utilizing an arsenal of weapons to fit the circumstance>Predisposed to but not necessarily limited to heavy armor>Combat skills purely focused on fighting, possibly also involving "unchivalrous" "crude" moves (like "taunt", "hamstring", "pile up", "leap" - even if functionally identical, a knight would always "charge", etc)>In the absence of non-fighting skills, focuses exclusively on combat stats>Has mercenary or soldierly type of non-combat skills: equipment maintenance, camping, bargaining, first aid, street smarts, etc
>>729942523A warrior is a generic footsoldier with no ties to a kingdom. A Knight is someone that has taken a vow to uphold the laws of the land. This is why in Oblivion, a Knight has charisma as one of their attributes and Illusion spells for the charm and calm, showing that they have the ear of the people.
>>729943402>FighterCatch-all term for any dude fighting up close with melee weapons. Their equipment and skills can wary wildly.>WarriorSimilar to fighter but they add some form of personal philosophy why they fight and might know magic/spells.>BarbarianA dude that usually fights naked or with light armor and can shout to make your eardrums explode.
>>729942523Knight is an elite military rank, usually reserved for nobles but not exclusively so. Warrior is just a general term for a fighter.>>729942826Crusader is anyone who joins a crusade, Paladin is a specific title for specific knights. Reason why religious knights used mace instead of sword was so they could dodge the christian rule of avoiding bloodshed. So all the video game Paladins use mace to cheat the rule that forbids violence.
>>729943402A fighter is probably alot better in h2h combat but has used weapons. A warrior is trained in all sorts of weapons and scenarios from personal experience and necessity. They will use armor so long as it isn't debilitating. A barbarian has been fighting since birth, probably with passable or mediocre weapons but hes pretty comfortable in the element of battle. Uses the least amount of armor.
>>729944818Barbarian is a derogative term talking about warriors coming from more primitive and savage cultures. Chinese dynasties called basically every warrior outside of China as "barbarian.". Manchu conqueror was nicknamed "Dorgon The Barbarian" despite fighting much like the chinese themselves.
Basically the same difference as Knight and Men-at-arms.
>>729943402>>729943803>>729944175>>729944386>>729944818>>729944926>>729945107A Barbarian is just someone from outside the regional culture, speaking a language that cannot be understood by the locals. For gameplay purposes, he should be identifiably foreign and armed in a way unlike the locals. Should the locals be civilized, the barbarian should be rustic, and vice versa. Communication should be strained and fraught with comprehension problems.And it's always a "he". A female barbarian is a Barbara, a term that was originally used to denote a foreign woman that a local person has married or pressed into slavery.What people think the Chinese called "barbarians" is more correctly translated to the French "savage": a person from the hinterlands, similar in appear and culture or not.
>>729945412>What people think the Chinese called "barbarians" is more correctly translated to the French "savage": a person from the hinterlands, similar in appear and culture or not.Sure but romans used the term "barbarian" in a same way.
>>729942523Nobility
more games need Peasant classes. Just a big strong farm raised lad that can wreck shit with sheer physical force alone
Okay but what's the difference between an archer and a bowman?
>>729945765Problem is someone doing physical labor and eating well enough may be strong but do they know how to use weapons and fight? Or have a fighting mentality? Some third-world lady carrying stones or hay up a mountain on a daily basis in Tibet is probably physically stronger than Mike Tyson but she could never beat him in a confrontation.
>>729945765In some games adventurers are implied to be of low social status, barely better than criminals.
>>729945938Bowman has access to long bows, archer can fight mounted
>>729942523Either knights are more defensive while warriors are more rounded out in terms of offense/defense, or knights have cavalry abilities. Sometimes both. That's typically how it goes, far as functional differences.But really knights are just people expected to take up arms for the realm. They swear fealty to their liege monarch and act as landlords or military officers on-call for when the king needs someone tuned up or a whole bunch of people put in the ground. And then you have some people who are given the title of knight just for social points. Generally in a fantasy setting you should expect someone with the title of knight to be able to fight thoughOn the other hand, a warrior is someone who fights for a living. Can even be a knight.
>nobody posted it yetFine. I'll do it myself.
What's the difference between a Wizard, a Warlock and a Mage?
>>729946243warlocks get their powers from some other powerful being i think
>>729946243Wizard : Studies raw magic.Warlock : Studies magic knowledge gained from some other entity, usually demons.Mage : Catch all term.
>>729943402If you asked that in non-gaming context, I would say a fighter is a profession, warrior is a permanent social identity, and barbarian is an outside-imposed description of a culture/lifestyle (more specifically, non-civilized in the literal sense of not city-dwelling). Here's a great quote from Ardant du Picq regarding warriors (they are shit, because their personal identity tied up to being warriors prohibits them from acknowledging weakness and pushes them towards displaying personal valour, when they are in fact still only human):>And indeed, in warlike nations there is a good dose of vanity. They only take into account courage in their tactics. One might say that they do not desire to acknowledge weakness.>The Gaul, a fool in war, used barbarian tactics. After the first surprise, he was always beaten by the Greeks and Romans.>The Greek, a warrior, but also a politician, had tactics far superior to those of the Gauls and the Asiatics.>The Roman, a politician above all, with whom war was only a means, wanted perfect means. He had no illusions. He took into account human weakness and he discovered the legionVidya tropes would imply these mechanical and fluff differences (the latter two aren't well-distinguished, but I think I've got something):>Barbarian: a character from non-state regions: lightly armored, aggressive or even reckless playstyle utilizing brute force rather than finesse, rage powers, tanks hits with high HP pool rather than mitigating damage>Fighter: covers anyone who fights as a way of life for any reason: ultimate generalist as fit to use bows as sword and board, twohanders, or dual-wield; fights 1-on-1 not afraid of using dirty tricks>Warrior: more specifically a professional soldier with organized way of fighting: high-quality equipment (heavy armor), group skills, drilled technique over pure physique, melee-only, focus on weapons of war
>>729946243>WizardWise>WarlockSucks demon 'ock>MageA faggot
>>729946243>WizardMerlinI don't know those well, but I think they have power over nature.>MageZoroasterI like to associate them with astrology.There's also alchemists, like Paracelsus.
>>729946670druids are the nature ones
>>729946243A wizard is a magician who cultivates the power of magic within themselves to be able to cast spells without entirely relying on outside sources such as enchanted items or contracts with spirits/demons.A warlock is a magician who derives the majority of their magical power via a contract with a spirit/demon.Mage is shorthand for magician/magic user. Wizards and warlocks are both types of mages. Same with sorcerers who, to contrast with wizards, tend to derive a significant portion of their magic might from an outside source, like a magic ring or artifact
>>729942523Knights are warriors that are bound by a code.Paladins are often called knights too but in fantasy they usually differ by Paladins using holy magic.>>729943402Barbarians are fighters that are more primitive. Usually bound on strength and stamina over training. And often depicted by carrying some primal force over armor.There are more "subclasses" often based in discussion like Ninja vs Rogue vs Thief, Cavalier vs Paladin vs knight. Mage vs Warlock vs Sorcerer.
>>729946762wizards use books and nerdy shit like the right wands and study magic like a science subject almost
>>729942523What's the difference between OP and a faggot?
>>729942523Ideally the knight is a Diplomat first and Fighter second trying to avoid violence whenever possible and only really skilled with one or two weapons wheras the Warrior is just a pure fighter skilled with more weapons and fighting styles then the knight but uselles outside of combatIn practice theres no difference between them since 99% of the content in any RPG is focused purely around combat encounters and skills like Diplomacy are uselles in most games and there only one or two weapons that or skills that are good anyway so gameplay wise they are the same
>>729946901Pretty much. There's plenty of overlap between magic users but wizards are the nerds who don't rely AS MUCH on shortcuts. Thus people who study and train as wizards tend to be more narurally magically gifted to begin with. The other types of magic users are more opportunistic in their approach to seeking arcane knowledge and power.
>>729942523Warriors are more feral freelancers and knights have a code of honor and a refined fighting style. To name some.
>>729943948whats the difference between High Defense and High Health?Both function the exact same alow you to take more hits
>>729947382Something that prevents a hit from connecting can also prevent riders like poisons and the like.
>>729946243Wizards basically have a PhD in magic because they learned all about magic at some kind of academy so they might not know any forbidden arts like necromancy.Warlock took the easy path of magic by making an agreement with a higher magical being that lets him borrow their power. Usually they have more specialized spells depending on who gives them power, for example a fire demon won't let them cast earthquake or high pressure water stream.Mage is a complete wildcard.
>>729946243Yeah and what about witches and sorcerers?They are all the same fucking shit
>>729947382>whats the difference between High Defense and High Health?One very frustrated and out of mana healer
>>729947382They're different in terms of fluff.But they also behave different in terms of special damage types (e.g. if DoT damage bypasses all damage reduction, barbarian might survive getting hit by a strong poison effect while fighter/warrior does not), depending on damage reduction mechanic they might behave differently depending on size and/or number of hits (armored fighter is just about immune to arrows and while barbarian can afford to take many hits, they will succumb, whereas a fighter cannot take one huge hit from a giant while a barbarian can), and they behave differently regarding health-recovery.
>>729947557tons of anons already explained it >wizardsgain magic by nerdy studying>warlockgain it from supernatural being, usually a bad decision>witchesusually women, focus on potion making and herbs and shit>mageumbrella term for any magic user>druidnature based magic user with rituals and shit>shahman spirit and nature based>sorcerersgain magic from external means like artifacts >alchemistnot even a wizard, has rules based on alchemy and focuses on changing one thing to another, just magic chemists really
>>729947557>witchesProbably just a woman the head priest doesn't like. There's a book on them called Malleus Maleficarum.>sorcerersGilles de Raie from Fate.Engages in blood rituals etc.
>>729947382High health is better against damage that bypasses armor like poison (unless it deals percentage based damage every turn/second).
>>729942523in that game? One is Tank, the other is DPS
>>729947557Witch varies a ton by the setting. Some would say witch is just the feminine of wizard but I don't like that convention. To me, a witch is something like a more specialized type of warlock that also has druidic and alchemical tendencies. Witches are generally outcasts who dabble in wild and taboo magic. They form their own groups and covens, perform unsanctioned rituals and experiments, consort with devils, do drugs, have sex, change shape, and are some of the shadiest types of magic user.I liked when witches were scary
now what the fuck is an arcane wizard?
>>729947382Defense is durability, health correlates to how much total damage you can take before dying completely. You can have high health but shit durability meaning every hit does more damage than someone with better defense and lower health.
How boy I sure do fucking love these "arbitrary game/system specific class terminology" discussions where anons just post their made up class definitions they'd use for hypothetical games they'll never actually make.>Whats the difference between a Warrior and a Knight?Depends on the game.
Well, at least your spam has variety. Can I expect every brown third-worlder to repost this every day now?
>>729942523>>729942598Class choice loses value when anyone can join the thieves guild and dark brotherhood, join mage school, fighter guild, the Arena and The blades.
>>729942523Knight rides horses. >>729942826Paladin is an high grade Knight. Crusader is someone who participate in a crusade.
>>729947968A wizard who studies arcane magic I guess? But isn't most magic ritual arcane to some degree?
>>729947382High defense makes healing easier and mana efficient, high hp just makes you into a mini boss? Also leech attacks are percentage based so favor high hp pools.
if wizards are the magic scientists and alchemists the magic chemists, who are the magic engineers?
>>729948267Golemancers or geomancers, either could work
>>729947968I have no idea what the word arcane means, but I think it's associated with card divination.
>>729948334geo sounds limiting, like just shaping earth and dirt, what about metal, ferromancy sounds better for machine making or majitek or whatever
>>729947968A wizard that specializes in arcane magic :)
>>729948267we still need to know the magic technicians and mathematicians, actually didn't a final fantasy game have that as a class?
>>729948475>geo sounds limiting, like just shaping earth and dirt, what about metalI don't consider them entirely different. But geomancers would make good structural engineers for stuff like building bridges or damming rivers, or making roads or walls and stuff
>>729942523Knights should have a bonus in mounted combatBut mounted combat in TES sucks
>>729943303Sandor was based althoughbeit. He did nothing wrong.
>>729948475Imo he's spot on, engineers didn't use metal in construction until recently.
>>729948843>mounted combat in TES sucksTES doesnt have mounted combat youre thinking of Mount and Blade
>>729945412Is that where the name came from?
>>729944487A lot of celebrities have been. Ian McKellen and Christopher Lee come directly to mind.
>>729948267ArtificersMagitechnicians
>>729948714yeah but engineers invent all sorts of shit, they are not all civil ones, I think a fantasy one would be some clockwork/steampunk maker who uses magic in their work>>729948939engineers don't just make houses and bridges though, they apply scientific research to invent tech or solve problems, so who the hell would apply magical research in scrolls and books?
>>729948946Maybe it's just because modding those games has become a reflex, but I remember both Oblivion and Skyrim allowing you to awkwardly fight from your horse if you could somehow line up the swinging animation with the enemy like a much shittier M&B.
>>729949036>they apply scientific researchEngineers didn't go to college until recently.
>>729942523a warrior is a guy whos primary profession is warfarea knight is just a warrior whos rich and owns land
>>729949323but that's literally what engineers do, they apply the theoretical or non tangible research scientists figure out into the real world in the form of solutions and inventions, that's what engineering's about, it's designing many things and not just roads and structures
horse armor
>>729944858>religious knights used maceMaybe in your gay d&d settings but IRL maces are far better than swords as armor.
What's up with DnD? Did everyone here play it when they were young?
>>729951158thats from OblivionIf it was DnD then there would be an actual significant difference between the two
>>729942851Kill yourself, you commie faggot.
>>729948946Skyrim has it.
>>729942523Knights are western monks. Warrior is just a guy who fights.
>>729946210Rollan.
>>729946243NothingDnD is a cancer
>>729958870Sex with Centorea.
>>729942523One is gay, the other isn't.
>>729942523Knight needs charisma, warrior doesn't.
>>729944858So that's why the Gauntlet knight uses a mace. Neat.
>>729948034Anyone can join any guild but you have no reason to do that unless you're doing some stupid meme run for youtube
>>729958870>>729959618
>>729943303>Sandor Clegane
>>729942523The difference used to be based on alignment. Knights used to basically be paladins, but then a bunch of retards made a fuss about how they didn't want to follow such a basic rule. Now even paladins no longer need to have good alignment.Anyways the difference between the modern warrior and knight archetypes in games is that warriors focus more on physical damage output while knights are usually a balance between attack and defense.
>>729944858Not elite. Knight (bachelor) is a status rank for gentry. Order knights are elite, nobility, and proportionally rich.
>>729942523Knights are defense oriented with heavy armor and expensive sword/shields, they're more akin to the "tank" archatype. Warriors are the jack of all trades in the world of physical melee fighters, they can equip anything, learn to handle any weapon, armor proficiency or shield but they'll never be the master of anything, they're pretty much in the same category as fighter except they have experience in chivalry. Fighters don't.Barbarians or Berzerkers are the raw powerhouse of the family, putting all their cards into offense.
>>729943303That's usually how it goes, but there are still some great people despite most being terrible
>>729942523Warrior is a base class and Knight is an advanced class for warrior that's better at tankingMaybe
>>729942523Knights are organized trained fightersWarriors are too, at least sometimes but their techinque isn't on par with knights but they do have a choatic unpredictable fighting style. Also warriors tend to be a bit stronger in many ways
>>729942826Paladin - Half Cleric, Half FighterCrusaders - 25% cleric, 75% fighter
>>729942826In real life? Paladins were the knightly companions of Charlemagne and crusaders were anyone on the crusades.
>>729942523Knights are stationed to protect a place or person. Warrior is a catch all term for combatants proficient in the art of war.
>>729942523a fighter is a generic term for any martial focused heroa warrior lives for battle. they aren't doing it for heroics, glory money, or sport, although that may be things they achieve, but they do it for the love of combat. a knight lives to protect. they can be content in times of peace as this is what they are protecting.
>>729943402>>729961475didn't see barbarian buta barbarian is a savage. where a warrior could have a more complex appreciation for battle, training their technique and preparing with the right armor a barbarian only needs strength. range is also for the weak barbarians being savages can also have more connection to their gods and ancestors. possibly also being a source of their power other than rage or willpower and might as well>>729942826a paladin is more than a protector like the knight. they are part of orders and their power comes from the oath they take. those orders can be holy in nature but don't need to be. could just be a bunch of dudes with a mission. knights don't need that, just the desire to protect people templars are like paladins but more sneaky a crusader is like a paladin but they are specifically religious and look to fight in their name of their god. they won't stand around in castles or guilds like a paladin. they are active
>>729942523Knight can use heavy weapons mauls. Knight is always just a large sword or 1-handed sword.
>>729962348meant warriors can use heavy weapons
>>729946243wizards are nerds who learn magicwarlocks sell their soul for power mages are self taught magic users
