>>730006937
That's wonderful news to those who use crts made before 1998

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based

What
Having media playing will naturally prevent screen savers from activating
Not that I care, I manually lock my screen and cap framerate to 5 every time I get up for more than pissing

>>730007338
>Having media playing will naturally prevent screen savers from activating
That's not always the case. Games don't do that by themselves and you had to rely on manual screensaver inhibition.

>>730007395
I have it set to turn off the screen after 1 minute because oled and it keeps it on regardless if a game is playing

>>730007395
No I didn't

>>730006937
>linux troons

About to install Mint on my 2TB SSD
Anything to know before installing? Going to dual boot with Windows 10 for now and then clear the windows drive when I'm fully comfortable with linux.

Also how well does linux work with wireless headphones and bluetooth in general?

>>730007696
Maybe you didn't have to, but many people had this problem.

>>730007840
you shouldn't get too attached to mint if you want to learn
yes, my peripherals work flawlessly, the only issue you might have is if your mouse or keyboard doesn't have on board memory and relies on logitech or razer shitware constantly running if there's no software for it on linux

>>730007840
>Anything to know before installing?
Yeah say goodbye to like 30% of your steam library
>B-but I don't play those games anyway
Money well spent
Also like >>730008476 said, no gaming company supports linux so if you have any gaming peripherals with customization, they are now a glorified office peripheral
Also games will say "this works on steam deck/linux" but sometimes not all features are present
>CS2 has an unfixable bug that lowers FPS also has some texture bugs
>Forza Horizon 5 you can't join friends, they have to join you using the mobile Xbox app and there is literally no way around this
If ALL you want to do is emulate the same 3 games you've played as a kid, then yeah Linux is good. Otherwise if you want to put your $3000 rig to use and don't want it to do what your phone can do anyway, stick to Windows.
>t. used Mint for a year and swapped back at the turn of the year
It's just not worth the headache, man. EVERYTHING needs a "comprehensive guide" to work and that's if it does at all. Or if it does, something in it is broken
I don't know why these Linuxtroons shill so hard on /v/ when /v/ideo gaming is the one thing it struggles on doing the most

>>730008748
you're seething and illiterate lmao
that's not what i said, i said if you're using some shitware that doesn't have ONBOARD MEMORY that preserves profiles and requires constant spyware to be up and running 24/7 then it might be an issue
dismiss this post mintanon, this nigger is gay

>>730007395
I'm running kde across multiple systems and I've never had that problem

>>730008748
Also if you go against Linux in any way shape or form, they RAGE out from their unbalanced hormones from all the estrogen they have to take
Before I even get done finishing this post, this guy troons out >>730008849 LMAO

if you praise linux in any way, shape or form you will have spergs instantly whip out the playbook and scream TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY TRANNY like >>730008894
remember that windows is a trillion dollar company and there are people paid to scare people off linux

>>730008476
>>730008748
>>730008894
Also if you want to swap back to Windows so you can actually play your games, it takes a special software and literal hours to get your stuff back over. It's such a hassle for no reason. Don't let any of these idiots try to advertise "you can tinker!" either, you will literally never tinker anything outside of trying to get the game working if all you wanna do is game. If you're a loner with no friends and don't care about multiplayer games, then shoot, go for Linux. If you have any friends at all, stick to windows. If you told a Linuxtroon that, they'll tell you "LMAO ENJOY YOUR SPYWARE" or something because they're so insufferable, they can't make or maintain friends.

>>730008989
>Muh shill
Nigga I'm only here to spread awareness. I don't shill for anyone. If Linux COULD play everything, I would have stuck to Mint. It's fast, snappy, and it felt smooth as hell. The truth is for gaming, it sucks monkey nuts through a straw. Denying that is only hurting your community. Retard

>>730006937
>screensaver
is this 2009 again?

>>730009062
>i'm here to spread awareness
no, you're not
your brain is fucking mush as you can't read and somehow extrapolated the worst possible outcome for peripherals when it's in fact just older and more primitive shit

>>730008748
honestly my expierience
I dualbooted at some point but then what the fuck is the point
If you play games don't even come close to linux

>>730007840
Steam games will work OOTB, just don't try to play games installed on NTFS drive
32-bit games will need 32-bit GPU drivers that Mint doesn't have installed OOTB, google it if you need it
japanese indy games (VNs and such) will need japanese locale generated, again google if you need it
learn terminal, it's not needed often on Mint, but it's just a good tool compared to windows' cmd to do trivial tasks fast

>>730007840
>Anything to know before installing?
Disconnect the Windows drive when installing
>Also how well does linux work with wireless headphones and bluetooth in general?
Works on my machine (TM)

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>microslop shills

>>730007840
Every once in awhile you're going to have to google "how do I get x working on linux mint" and spend 5 minutes dealing with that.

>>730009129
>Older and more primitive
>Have Logitech G27
>Software on Windows is so prehistoric it's not even on their site anymore
>Still not on Linux
>Have to use Oversteer (some random bozo made it) and new lg4ff to get force feedback working
Oh yeah it's totally just older software broski
>Also can't host Assetto Corsa server to play with your friends
Again, Linux is purely for loners
>>730009219
>Muh shill
Every time. Repeat after me: Linux is not for gaming.

>>730009219
how microsoft being bad makes linux good again?

>>730009250
>i'm not a shill, i'm just actively protecting microsoft's interests by painting linux as the boogeyman

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>>730009250
>saar do not redeem da loonax

>>730009227
>5 minutes
lol
lmao

I will honest to god concede and send $50 on Paypal to any Linux retard that can get Asphyxia core and Spice2x running Sound Voltex from Emuline working on Linux. Post video proof with your paypal.me link. It took me 5 minutes on Windows and worked flawlessly vs several hours on Linux and couldn't get through the terminal errors let alone the game
>>730009315
>Protecting Microsoft
How's shilling a broken software helping anyone?
>ALL YOUR GAMES JUST WORK
>This game doesn't work
>WHY WOULD YOU WANNA PLAY THAT ANYWAY?
Saving anon from 240 hours of this
>>730009368
>An operating system made for desktop doesn't work well handheld
>This proves Linux is better for gaming and can run everything?
>I guess?
Elaborate. Like I said, I hate Windows but for gaming, it absolutely waffle stomps Linux. You'd think that matters on the gaming board.

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>>730009250
>stay on vindows plese linux is not brahmin!!!!

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>>730009009
This is a lie.
>insert Windows builder into USB slot
>prompts you for formstting and selecting drives
>builds bootloader and OS partitions
I think you're an attentionwhore faggot looking to stir the pot, if not a microsoft shill.

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>>730009448
>Still has yet to prove how Linux is better for gaming
Telling me Windows is bad in general doesn't prove that all my games don't work on it flawlessly with no tinkering. I CAN, however, prove that almost 1/5th of games worth playing on Steam don't work on Linux
>>730009476
>Misreads my post on purpose
>LOL GOT YOU11!
I know the ratio of Indians on Linux is skyrocketing but I thought they knew how to read English. Backing up your files from EXT4 to NTSF is not as easy as drag and drop
>I have no files worth saving so I don't need to worry about this
Yeah no kidding...

>>730009308
>why does showing people how retarded the mainstream brand of paid OS with advertising and telemetry make the free open source alternative look more attractive again?
Million dollar question right here

>>730009546
>Why does showing me a car has manual windows prove that this other car isn't faster?
Are you retarded? Yeah Windows SUCKS for privacy but we're talking about gaming here. Prove to me Linux is better for gaming and I'll swap back.

>>730009424
>Spice2x
use bemanitools
>inb4 nooo I don't want a solution I want to seethe

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>another flamewar retard thread
both winjeet and linux are shit
its just about choosing the lesser evil and what is easier for you to deal with

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>>730009542
>talks about linux
>deck verified
if you clicked that arrow you'd avoid the humiliation
reminder that windows will NEVER get better
the remaining scraps of legacy code that hold this thing together will be replaced with aislop

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>>730009542
Hang on, is your point of contention that you think people are incapable of backing up their harddrive? When one moves to a better house, usually the move's expenses are understood to be part of that process.

>>730009628
>No proof
>I win
Get it running. Post paypal.me.
>>730009652
>Another muh windows sucks post
Prove why Linux is better for gaming for the video gaming board. Not responding to off topic.

>>730009424
did you just assume that anon wants to play Fortnight, shill-chan?

>>730006937
I did have this problem a long time ago, I think I mitigated it by using gamemode or whatever
Recently I came back to linux and I noticed this wasn't an issue, or at least I never had it happen
However the issue I noticed is that my weird gamepad does NOT work on every distro and needs a few tweaks to work properly. That my distro choice is affected by this is mortifying. I spent days on Fedora based distros not getting my controller to just, fucking, work. And I'm always tempted to go back and try to find the fix but it took too much of my time, and I don't think there's anything worth in Fedora/Nobara/Bazzite that could have me go through the whole fucking process all over again. No. Fuck you.

>>730009698
>People can't back up their harddrives
>EXT4 requires third party software on Windows
>FAT32 takes 40 thousand years to transfer a smegmabyte of data
Where did I go wrong exactly? All this is from experience, not speculation. What house? What are you on about? Do I gotta jingle keys to keep you on topic? How is Linux better for gaming on the /v/ideo gaming board?

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>>730009703
Easy, windows can't run headless factorio server, therefore it's unusable shit for videogames. Checkmate shills.

>>730009703
>Prove why Linux is better for gaming for the video gaming board. Not responding to off topic.
because it doesn't involve running spyware on your pc to play games?
reminder that every game with easy anti cheat that runs on linux treats windows users as second class citizens that get their kernel raped with spyware
also windows still strangles hardware stronger than the ps5 with fucking spyware
https://youtu.be/Pc2ZFEWXjhw

>>730009984
>linux is better for server
yes? what about gaming

>>730009984
>Windows can't run this one extremely niche use case there for IT'S USELESS
Can Linux run Battlefield 6 so I can play with my friends?

>>730009984
https://www.google.com/search?q=wsl+windows

>>730009589
If performance is comprable OR competitive between different programs, how would you feel?
Windows will occasionally have games run marginally better when when there's kernel-level anticheat involved or if the build is Windows only, requiring Wine or Proton, but the number of times Linux outperforms even when using Proton is just as prominent. And if there's an official Linux port of the program, Linux always wins. And by the way, it also depends on the GPU, as those benchmarks listed above are oriented towards Nvidia cards, AMD cards will only favor Linux more.

>>730010065
Can you get friends worth a shit?

>>730010060
>I didn't need it anyway
pathetic cope
>>730010065
Sorry, too busy playing Factorio online with my friends to bother with zoomer shooters. Call me when windows can do something so basic as allow online gaming.

>>730010065
>my relationship with my friends is so tenuous that the best we can manage is soulless matchmaker slop and not any actually fun coop game

>>730009589
Linux can play the latest RTX slop even if your GPU doesn't support RTX. Not possible on Windows.

>>730010127
In my experience:
>if there's an official Linux port of the program, Linux always wins.
More often than not these games will run like dogshit native compared to Proton.
>the number of times Linux outperforms even when using Proton is just as prominent
Depends on the hardware. Most of these AMD benchmarks are done with older generations (RDNA, RDNA2, GCN4). On RDNA4 it's usually equal or worse. A 7900XTX on linux is much better than a 9070XT.

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>>730010127
I would rather have everything run at 60% than 60% being able to run. I got locked out of a lot of games my friends wished to play because I was on Linux and that's not just because of Anti-cheat. Like I said, Linux can be snappy and smooth and nice but it SUCKS for gaming
>>730010139
Jealous nigga?
>>730010191
>Sorry, too busy playing Factorio online with my friends to bother with zoomer shooters
see >>730009424
>WHY WOULD YOU WANNA PLAY THAT ANYWAY?
Every time
Can Windows not host a Factorio server at all? Because Linux can't host an Assetto Corsa

>>730007840
>About to install Mint on my 2TB SSD
Are you me? I did this earlier but with Arch Linux (was on Mint before). Haven't looked back yet, every game I've wanted to play just works out of the box. I even have some childhood games playing with Lutris, it's comfy.

The year of the Linux desktop is 2026.

>>730006937
>gamepad
>kde
>screensaver
i use none of these. it's nice to see kde fixing 10 year old bugs though, maybe they can fix the krashes next.

>>730010463
>it sucks because i'm fucking stupid and a turbo goy that plays the worst slop that injects you with spyware

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>RTX
Why would I wanna lost 80% of my frames for le lighting?
>>730010463
Can I not play Factorio with friends at all or is it specifically a headless server that can't run?
>>730010212
>You can't play F1 with your friends on your own rigs? You must like SLOP
Cope while I run laps around you
>>730010483
>Emulating 20 year old games
Every time with anyone shilling linux...

>>730010463
>Jealous nigga?
Of what? Playing with a bunch of cabbage haircuts with no taste?

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>>730009845
My external harddrive is formatted for Windows and transfers to/from fine on my Arch.
Linux doesn't spy on you, advertise to you in your start menu, and force updates where they sometimes worsen the functionality or service with more telemetry, AI, or forcing/installing bloateare on your device. Windows 11 has Recall. Really, Recall is the poster child for how fucked all this is, where all the time and effort went into developing this and look at the result. The users haven't been the target audiance for a long time, investors and big tech biting into consumers like an apple are.

>>730010547
>i will tolerate the humiliation of having some random shitware spying on me if it means i get to sit at my trough

>>730010562
>No taste
What single player game are you emulating, Linuxtroonanon?
>Linux doesn't spy on you
You're right but how does this make it game better?
>advertise to you in your start menu
Can be turned off but you're right but how does this make it game better?
>force updates where they sometimes worsen the functionality or service with more telemetry, AI, or forcing/installing bloateare on your device
Again, you're right but how does this make it game better. I'm not on Windows 11. Windows 10 sucks, yeah, but I can still play every game I wanna play. Gimme a Linux distro that can play every .exe without tinkering and I'll hop on it tonight. Not possible though so it's not better for gaming.
>>730010581
>Humiliation
I hate spyware but what the hell humiliation are you talking about lmao? When were you humiliated by spyware?

>>730010572
Forgot to reply to you in this post>>730010690

>>730010463
>I would rather have everything run at 60% than 60% being able to run
Good news, significantly more than 60% of programs run on Linux! Why, I'd have to go looking for game that don't run well through Wine or Lutris. I'm sure they exist and I respect legitimate use cases even if niche, but I'm not aware of any major ones.
No, it's more like 98% as I read, and of course the major titles will be given the most attention. I used to have issues with RPG Maker games on newer Proton versions, but Wine just works more often so I don't have an issue.

>>730010690
>I hate spyware but what the hell humiliation are you talking about lmao? When were you humiliated by spyware?
the fact that you're accepting having spyware that can see EVERYTHING sitting in your kernel?
again, if you're on linux and the easy anti cheat games allow it you're a first class citizen because it just can't fucking do that on linux
meanwhile you're a fucking tasteless pig that doesn't even fucking question it because you get to sit at the trough RIGHT NOW

>>730010690
>I hate spyware
No, you love windows and battlefield 6

>>730010690
>Calls other people troons
>Enjoys troonware
Silly

>>730010763
>Why, I'd have to go looking for game that don't run well through Wine or Lutris
Tell me one that isn't an emulator
>Tarkov
>F1 25
>Battlefield 6
Lemme guess, >>730009424
>WHY WOULD YOU WANNA PLAY THAT ANYWAY?
Friends lmao
>>730010805
>You're being humiliated because it's spying on you
So is your phone
So is every camera in every store you go to
So is every camera on every street you drive through
So is every camera on every public transport you take
>But I'd rather not have that on my computer because that somehow matters!!!
Sure
>>730010860
>Putting words in my mouth
When did I say either? How about put words in your own mouth and tell me why Linux is better for /v/ideo gaming

>>730010547
>Emulating 20 year old games
>>I even have
You have the reading comprehension of an Indian faggot. I've already tried many AAA games released in the last 2 years. They all work, 0 extra effort, 0 performance issues.

You lost, Windows will lose and fade.

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>>730009984
>Literally no difference
>There's a difference between being able to run a game and not being able to at all
Hmmst

>>730009178
>Disconnect the Windows drive when installing
This is NOT optional. Mint always fucks up your windows/boot partition. Which is ironic, considering it's babies first linux. It can be fixed, but then again you're not installing mint because you want to spend hours fixing shit.

Aside from that Mint is good. I'd recommend an arch based distro for gaming though personally I use EndevourOS but CachyOS should be fine too. Look into pamac if you want a GUI for installing software, but you don't really need that.(since it can break) Just google shit and instead of downloading and .exe you just type in what you want into your terminal (ctrl+alt+T)

>>730010918
>When did I say either?
The whole thread? You're playing battlefield 6 right?

>>730010918
>So is your phone
>So is every camera in every store you go to
>So is every camera on every street you drive through
>So is every camera on every public transport you take
i have a freetard phone
cameras don't see anything beyond my appearance
what a fucking pathetic attempt at cope

These threads always end up being the same.

>>730011104
and it's always entertaining

>>730010918
So if someone offered you 5 bucks to put a camera in your house you'd do it because hey you're already being spied on right?

>>730011168
What's another cock to suck to an already conditioned faggot

>>730010984
>I even have some childhood games playing with Lutris, it's comfy.
>I-I'M NOT EMULATING!
You ok bro?
>>730011037
No because I was on Mint at the time. I could not play it. It looked fun watching friends play while I did nothing. Hype's gone, game's dead. Again, putting words in my mouth you illiterate retard
>>730011076
>HAH! I don't have a phone! Checkmate!
>Forget the fact that I can be tracked the moment I leave my house to the moment I return
>That's just.... BESIDES THE POINT!
>>730011104
I'm smashed off my nut and it's fun messing with these guys. Any word against Linux is an existential threat.
>Shill software on gaming board
>Can't explain why it's good for gaming
>>730011168
Not quite the same. If you want a good comparison
>You can not leave your house to go wherever you want
>Want to go to the shops to get some stuff
>It's not on the list of places you can go
>You can go wherever you want with a camera placed inside your house
>Get camera
>Put tape over it
>Go to the shops
>Never get in trouble
But Linuxtroons will argue "Why would you wanna go to the shops anyway?"

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>>730011271
>playing fortnite is as important as going to the shops
>also I "put tape over the camera" so it's totally disabled guys!

>>730011271
>they can track me outside when i'm blending in? why does it matter when they can track me inside where all my personal shit resides?
you're retarded
and you don't know what a freetard phone is

>>730011337
>Camera serves a single purpose
>Disable the single purpose
>It's not disabled
As someone who does cashies on the side installing security cameras, I can guarantee if 95% of cameras had tape placed on the lens, they're effectively disabled

>>730009163
I play games and haven't touched Windows in nearly two years.

>>730011394
>Freetard phones make me invisible to cameras
>>730011406
What games and don't name any emulators lmao

>>730011448
you're a stupid fucking nigger if you think a public camera showing your silhouette is the same as having access to all your private shit

>>730011406
I am very glad you had good expierience with gaming on linux

>>730008748
Linux makes sense for old computers, it's a godsend to give a new life to ancient laptops or 775 e-waste
for modern games I don't see why would you leave a working OS for one you'll have to tinker to have the same results
if I cared about spyware I'd throw away my smartphone btw

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ummmm linux sisters???

>>730011523
>I LOVE MY PRIVACY I WILL DO ANYTHING FOR MY PRIVACY
>But you can be tracked through any sim card and any camera
>NOT THAT KINDA PRIVACY!
>>730011542
I completely agree with this. I've seen people talk about how Linux revived old devices that slowed right the hell down. For gaming, stick to windows. For anything else, go Linux. But don't shill Linux on a gaming board

>>730011551
some issue with intel's cuck cores probably

>>730011551
>windows running faster than linux on a laptop is an unexpected surprise now
lol wow

>>730011551
>>730011610
>Ummm that's ok because it's not Linux's fault
Any excuse

>>730011608
>you can't be completely anonymous so you might as well give out all the most sensitive data!
you're too stupid for this conversation

>>730011551
>80 comments
I bet every single comment is a seething lol

>>730011148
Naw its boring.

>>730011685
>Secure my data
>Somehow this is better for gaming
Explain?

>>730010860
Wow you are still this mad that you can't play Battlefield 6?

>>730011531
thank you!
>>730011448
>What games and don't name any emulators lmao
Too many to really list out. The only games I had issues with were mainly VR games. I mostly play single player games in general and even the few multiplayer games with anticheat (EAC) I play do still work. Though I am sure there are plenty of games in my steam library that won't work but I haven't attempted playing them yet. Only emulator I used on linux was ShadPS4 for Bloodborne.

>>730011551
Benchmarks, nigga

>>730011743
you're really trading your data for 10% more performance on a small selection of slop?

>>730011767
I could play that spyware trash any time I wanted, but I don't.

>>730011818
linux works better on my machine.
source: trust me bro.

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>>730011818
ok

>>730011793
Meh can't complain. At least you admit there are games that don't work and don't imply everything and its mum works flawlessly with proton 9.0.4 or some nonsense. Enjoy your games, nigga
>>730011076
>The last release of ClearOS was in 2020, and with no updates since then, the project appears to be discontinued
>My open source operating system can not be cracked despite having no updates in 6 years!
Lmao even
>>730011870
>10%
Proof of this statistic? I'm trading it for the ability to play games with my friends. Especially when I've already purchased some. Like I said, if Linux can run everything I want flawlessly, I'd swap back
>>730011880
>I could play that spyware trash any time I wanted, but I don't.
>Physically can't
??

>>730009984
Wait does this mean if I have a linux PC I can play factorio for free?

I'm going to sleep, Linux xisters. Thanks for showing me how bad you guys cope. Again. See you maybe another thread.

>>730011983
>>Physically can't
>??
I could install windows and play it whenever I wanted, dumb fuck, are you retarded? I won't play that trash, it's all yours.

>>730012060
No, it strictly means that you can run a Factorio server for slightly less resources. That's it. Nothing game breaking. Nothing to write home about. Nothing free.
>>730012078
>Yeah I can play Battlefield!
>I just gotta install windows but I don't want to!
INSANE cope

>>730011983
https://youtu.be/SU2mFqCOh5A
my bad, it's actually 6%
>I'm trading it for the ability to play games with my friends
your friends are fucking sad losers if all you ever play is matchmaker slop

>>730012135
>>Yeah I can play Battlefield!
>>I just gotta install windows but I don't want to!
Yeah, I don't want that garbage on my computers.

>>730012135
So what you need the base game and then you remote connect to the server from the base game?

>>730012239
>my bad, it's actually 6%
So not only can I not run some of my games, but the games I CAN run are all literally worse than windows
Why should I swap to Linux on the /v/ideo gaming board again?
>>730012285
Yeah. On Windows you can still run a server but it takes SLIGHTLY more resources. That's it. You still need the game on both

>>730012363
>why shouldn't I get enslaved? i'll never have to think about my life ever again!!!
what a retarded one track mind you have going on
you're not noticing the 6% without an fps counter side by side comparison
but you ARE noticing the garbage windows experience that's only going to get worse as all the good remaining code is getting replaced by ai slop code

>>730012363
>Why should I swap to Linux on the /v/ideo gaming board again?
You're asking the question, so you're a computer illiterate normie. Play your goyslop, open your browser and do your thing. That's fine. You're ngmi

Is it true that it's still better to do VR games on Windows than Linux?

>>730006937
Sorry, I have friends and play multiplayer games.

>>730013467
Virtual Desktop is only available on Windows, but ALVR works well for PCVR if you take the time to set it up

>>730010918
>Tarkov
This can be run on Linux, works fine. You can only play the SPT mod though, no online cheater heaven for you.

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What I find annoying with Linux culture is they've engineered this narrative where they're the tech enthusiasts and windows is only for dumb normies, as if the only windows that exists is the Out-Of-The-Box vanilla version, so hey if you want to be in the cool leet club you totally should hop over. In reality if you're a power user, you can do so many cool things on windows. It has so many cool tools that do no exist on linux.

This argument is generally true for private commercial software vs free open source software. If I have the option, and features are equal, I'll prefer the open source version. But pro software are often more mature and feature rich, devs have better incentive.

That's not something they want to acknowledge, so they keep attacking vanilla windows OOBE, with constant double standards. They'll spam shit like "ah see, on windows they removed the ability to move the taskbar to the top!". When all it takes is restore some value in the registry or using a popular tweaker tool to customize stuff as you want. How is that any different from having to tinker with terminal/settings to customize your linux distro? It's not but this is the kind of stupid shit they use to attack windows.

Now I have to use like 5 different tools to get windows how I want, from the garbage OOBE, to my ideal version of an OS and everything set up how I want. It requires some effort. BUT THAT'S THE WHOLE LINUX SALES PITCH.

The only realy valid line of criticism is about all the telemetry spying and upgrades that sometimes break shit. But the modern day linux fan is a retard who just regurgitates poor disinfo from youtube shills.

They also don't want to acknowledge that the linux experience is still completely lacking compared to windows in so many ways. You realize this when you start going down tinker rabbit hole, and with windows you get countless solutions but on linux you often end up on dead forums with 3 non-solved replies and the only solution is "just deal with it".

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>bazzite is great for gaming
>but not for this one gpu brand
>gpu brand is 85% of marketshare

>>730013820
ask the gpu brand to not be niggers or sell what you have and replace it with the competitor that actually gives a shit

>>730013820
that's literally an Nvidia issue for not making their drivers non-proprietary.

>>730013820
nvidia is only 50% of the linux marketshare
also nvidia is fucking off to chase ai, so it's only a short term problem.

>>730013975
>implying AMD is not doing the same

>>730013820
That's all Linux distros. Not gonna change until Nvidia fixes their drivers

>>730013975
>just switch to mint
>actually just switch to bazzite
>actually just switch to amd
linux cope is something else

>>730014052
nta, the good thing is that AMD doesn't have a monopoly on their drivers unlike Nvidia

>>730008863
I had it

>>730014087
>I made a bad purchasing decision and I'm all in on sunk cost fallacy
Go cry to Nvidia
Any further excuses are bootlicker cope about a 4 trillion dollar corporation not being your friend

>>730013813
As a Windows power user of almost 30 years who did extensive customization, yeah I was a dumb normie on Windows. With earlier versions of Windows I did do cool stuff, but by Windows 10 I was a normie and the extent of my power user prowess was being able to use powershell. On Windows 11, I was a turbonormie.
They have been constantly removing your ability to do cool shit, it's really hard to do anything now. It's not even worth it. Also I dunno what you mean by "tools", but if you're talking about something like a debloating script than that's a normie thing not a power user thing. I personally debloated my Windows 10 before any debloating scripts even existed (I wouldn't run shady scripts anyway). That's the power user way.

>x works on windows ootb but doesn't on linux
>why would you want to use that
>use y instead which is inferior and almost works as well as x after you spend 200 hours tinkering with it

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It's over (we'll be so back next month)

>>730014398
I've seen it before too, but not in the last few games I played with a controller. So either it just depends on the game, or Cinnamon at some point got an update similar to the KDE update referenced in the original post.

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>>730014584
This month's survey is busted

>>730014584
Probably will be, I finally got a steam survey yesterday, after all these years. Now that'll be -1 Windows 11 ultrabook and +1 Linux gaming PC.

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Uh oh

>>730014753
That's not a big deal because they were already being spied on anyways

>>730014935
Right, and China won't arrest you anyway. You have to worry about the Israeli spyware not the Chinese stuff.

>>730014684
The graphs here show just how much of an anomaly that month was: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/steam-tracker/
Like those spikes of millions of Chinese suddenly appearing.

>>730015183
no, the december data is just plain fucking wrong
there's zero reason for those numbers to be above 100%, you can literally see it saying +50% on all those cpu instructions

>>730015349
lol

>>730014668
lutris disables screensavers by default if you're playing a game because this bug is present in both kde and GNOME.

>>730015980
I don't use Lutris but yeah it might depend on the launcher. The recent games were running in Steam (one in Proton 10.0 and another in Steam Linux Runtime 1.0). Maybe if I just run a game like SuperTuxKart then it will happen again.

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>>730014406
He's right though, lots of people on nvidia and they're best off not using linux. I thought cachyos was good and I wanted to use it but in the end, it's not worth it to cripple such great hardware with poor driver support.
>b-buy AMD!
Even if I was willing to do this, I like to play with AI models, so it would just be trading one problem for another, much worse problem, because AMD is hopelessly behind in so many areas.
Trust me I wish it wasn't so, so I wouldn't have to unfuck my windows 10 installation and fuck with 11 to install on it, all that work just to get that jeetslop of an OS, it's a humiliation ritual that I'd rather not deal with but I don't see any good alternative. I'll check again when windows 12 comes out and it's even worse

>>730006937
>2026
>linux is just now not activating a screensaver while the computer is in active use
this is why linux is for troons
dogshit OS

>>730013820
>I deliberately tried to play videogames using AI hardware, and it was suboptimal
>why did this happen to me?

>>730016771
Ok?
Go complain to the 4 trillion dollar corporation about it then
They're the only party that can improve the drivers since they insist on not giving away the keys to the community like AMD did

>>730016876
You will never be a woman

>>730016876
https://unlocked.microsoft.com/pride/

>>730017072
They don't care, and realistically they shouldn't lol, gaming is a rounding error for them. Ironically all their market value is based on CUDA on Linux which is very well supported lol, but that won't translate to graphics apis sadly.
The most likely thing that would un-fuck them is that they abandon the consumer cards and AMD slowly improves on the compute end. I doubt AMD could do that themselves since their devs are garbage, but maybe if they get the community to do it again they could get things workable for inference at least.

>>730017539
literally UDNA my guy

>>730007338
>>730007395
>>730007516
At least on Windows this shit is not reliable
Even with no game running my PC will sometimes not use the screensaver because of reasons I don't understand, some culprits were youtube being on the current tab (despite the video being paused) and/or discord open in the background

Anyways it's easier to tap Win+L

>install linux mint on laptop
>the laptop fails to boot automatically, complains that there is no boot drive installed
>if I go into the bios and manually select the same boot drive assigned as #1 priority for booting, it works
There is just way too much shit that just doesn't werk. After I realized that my bluetooth headset/mouse don't have linux software and therefore can't be customized, I completely gave up on it.
I think the worst part is that linux brings zero advantages. I saw no reason to use it. Best case scenario it had features that do a good job at rivaling Windows's, but it never exceeds Windows at anything other than schizo shit like
>less background programs
and
>less spyware

>>730017706
>At least on Windows this shit is not reliable
>Even with no game running my PC will sometimes not use the screensaver because of reasons I don't understand
For me the display power save would never activate if I had a controller plugged in. Probably stick drift or something.

>>730017958
>unironically installing Razor™ software to "customize" his ride
how did you managed to learn to breath?

>>730017958
>if I go into the bios and manually select the same boot drive assigned as #1 priority for booting, it works
This has nothing to do with Linux. I don't know what kind of configuration error this is exactly, but something is fucked on your UEFI end. It could be that you installed Linux using CSM and your computer always switches back to UEFI boot by default (this is desirable) even when you manually boot to CSM.

>>730017958
>therefore can't be customized
Did you try running the software with wine/proton?

This is your average windows user ladies and gentlemen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDPCCGE18js

>>730018329
>it's not Linux's fault, it's your bios!
Okay, sure. But ultimately Windows just werks with it. Linux doesn't. You faggots promise that Linux just werks just like Windows, and from the week I spent trying Mint this is not even close to being true. The obstacles are simple to deal with, but you WILL spend a huge amount of time wrestling with your own OS instead of having the OS work for you.

>>730014502
>this thing works when it's applied to the correct thing
>but when I use it on other thing that is built differently, it doesn't????
really the lamest argument anyone can make.

>>730018597
it's still not a linux issue, this is an issue with your motherboard and/or Mint.
prebuilt mobos are more likely to run into issues as OEMs cheapen the fuck out on parts, especially for laptops.

>>730018597
Also remember that if you choose to install a rolling distro to play the latest games, sometimes they will have bugs but you will never know it's a bug until weeks later, so you just wasted a week troubleshooting something that wasn't your fault.
But the problem is that now you can't play the game normally and if you downgrade it will often have issues because it's a new game and it needs a newer proton version. It's all a fucking joke.

>>730018597
It's not the fault of the BIOS either, it's the fault of the user for installing using CSM if this is actually what is happening. That's really dumb. Windows 11 doesn't even support CSM afaik. Only Windows 10 and earlier support it. You'd have to wrestle with it on Windows 10 too if you were stupid enough to boot the installer in CSM.
Many people do by the way, it's not rare to see someone in legacy boot on Win10.

>>730019105
>It's not the fault of the BIOS either, it's the fault of the user for installing using CSM if this is actually what is happening.
I just put Linux Mint in a bootable device, then installed it following the exact steps depicted in the official Mint manual available in their website.

Apparently in doing so I committed some sort of cardinal sin and it's all my fault even though I just followed the instructions to a T.

And this is a great example of why Linux is garbage. Shit will break because of obscure stuff no one told you about, and if you complain about it it's all your fault.

>>730018597
>he's too dumb to fry the eggs
>blames the eggs
tell me you're brown without saying the color

>>730019081
>install a rolling release distro
>get all the new features as they come out
>but you also get the latest bugs
it's definitely a choice to make, point release have usually less bugs as there's more testing happening. it's why pretty much everyone recommends fedora and bazzite (fedora immutable).

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>Hey. Linux, install Steam from the store
>Do you want to proceed installing Steam?
>Yes.
>Breaks
lel

>>730019228
I don't know how your boot process works and Linux mint is not gonna give you instructions on how to deal with that. It does however support both UEFI and CSM boot so you can boot it successfully either way. For my hardware in the boot menu it shows both options, but if I choose CSM the UEFI permanently enables it.

>>730019419
yeah, crazy how that bug exists on every distro and isn't fixed yet and literally no one on linux has ever used steam, just wild

>AAA games work
>MP games work
>Indie games work
>Retro games work
>Emulated games work
>Gacha games work
I don't really get why people are complaining about stuff not working on Linux

Linux is nice, but I wish I would've installed something like Bazzite or Mint over Arch. I don't know why it's being shilled over the easier to use distributions. Besides that, does anyone know how to fix the microphone quality on Discord? For some reason it's of poorer quality than it is on Windows. My drivers are ALSA and I'm using PulseAudio as a sound server.

>>730019580
b-b-but... *checks notes*... Fortnight, the essential /v/ game doesn't work!

>Mod needs to be launched as a separate executable after the game is launched so it can hook properly
How do I add this as a launch command to bottles so it's all automatic?

>>730020004
i don't know much about bottles, but you can easily script this behavior with bash. you can have your bash script wait for a process or sleep a bit before launch a second exe.

>>730020004
I had to install the protontricks flatpak in order to install a patch for a game on Steam, so maybe you have to do something similar but with winetricks.

>>730019419
What a cohencidence that he uses poopos during the few days it has a bug installing steam for his one video about linux. I trust this man's tech tips.

>>730019580
I can't play Apex Legends all day like a fucking loser therefore it sucks

>>730020004
no idea about bottles, from terminal or bash script you could run the exe on the same wineserver by setting WINEPREFIX=path/to/same_prefix
or you can make a cmd script that runs both .exes and run that in bottles

>>730019419
someone post this retard downloading a github file as html

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>people still dick riding windows in the big '26

>>730020170
>you can easily script this behavior with bash
Can he really though? Sure, he could do
>myScript.sh %command%
in the launch options where myScript.sh first runs
>"$@" &
to background the process that Bottles would run for the game, but then, for running the mod, he would still need to invoke the same Wine (with same variables) used to run the game, and at that point, that's all hidden in the "$@" that came from %command%. Maybe he could programmatically replace game's .exe name with the mod's .exe name in "$@" and run that, but I don't even remember the syntax for doing such things.
I'm wondering if he would be better off writing a Windows .bat script which runs the game in the background and then runs the mod, and then he can just use Bottles to run that .bat script. If normal usage of the mod is to start the game and then start the mod, I'm actually surprised that the mod doesn't already come with such a thing. Who the fuck wants to start a game and then Alt+Tab back out of the game to start a mod for it? Is that how people use that mod on Windows?

>>730020004
no idea about bottles
I know how to do it in Lutris
probably best to do as >>730020497 says
write a cmd script (so DOS/Windows thing, and not .sh BASH script, since you plan on running the thing with Windows compatibility layer like WINE or Proton) and then make the Bottles run that.
Still, I don't know why faggots decided to go make Bottles when Lutris was already a thing and it already did everything that Bottles does.

I keep hearing Linux needs you to tinker and donwload all kinds of stuff to function at all, is it really that cumbersome and why

>>730021704
no more than windows, you can go full autism if you want but a default install of fedora or mint will get you playing whatever game you want in a few clicks.

>>730006937
I don't get it? I never had this problem before? Didn't even know this was an issue

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>>730021704
The "all kinds of stuff" you heard about is probably Wine and all the "extra" things (DXVK, VKD3D, etc.) that a Wine launcher like Bottles or Lutris or Steam's Proton will install for you.
>and why
Because Linux isn't Windows, and therefore can't make sense of Windows API calls without Wine translating them.

I still have an issue where sometimes when I turn my monitor(DP) back on after it being off for a while it's the wrong resolution.
I've found that I need to
Get the EDID and
Put that EDID somewhere that tells KDE or arch or whatever what it is and what resolution it's supposed to be
But it's so arcane to me that I'd rather just turn my monitor off and back on again every so often it happens

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Windows 11 wouldn't install on my PC because of some weird secureboot bug not supporting my NVME drivers or something so I installed bazzite and everything seems to Just Work™ out of the box..

I'm not sure how I feel about it, everything seems to work but I'm scared I'll get banned by anticheat eventually or something.

>>730022062
>Because Linux isn't Windows
Why? Nobody really does anything linux native, it is windows emulator for all intents and purposes so why windows system calls aren't packaged in the kernel?

>>730022246
If a game works on Linux it will work on Linux.
I won't say you'll NEVER get banned, but the anticheat should just kick you if it ever decides it doesnt like Linux and not outright ban your account. Smite had a period where it occasionally updated Easy Anticheat which meant on the day it was a cointoss whether or not Easy Anticheat would let me in or kick me out of every game 5 minutes in

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>>730022385
Wine
Is
Not an
Emulator
But also

>>730022385
because proton is a stopgap solution until linux becomes so relevant they have no choice but to support it natively
for now all you really need to do is support vulkan and not block it with your anticheat and that's about as good as it gets even on windows

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>>730022385
>Why?
Because Windows isn't FOSS.
>Nobody really does anything linux native
Categorically untrue but okay, I'm sure you'll just seethe and call me a liar.
>so why windows system calls aren't packaged in the kernel?
Ask a Wine developer or a kernel developer why the projects are separate. It wouldn't really make that much of a difference, though. Those Windows API calls that would hypothetically be built into the kernel would still be reverse-engineered (because Windows isn't FOSS) and thus they would often still be imperfect. From your point of view, Wine being built into the Linux kernel instead of being a separate package would effectively be the same as having a Linux distribution with Wine pre-installed.

I'm not running a survey here and I asked on /g/ for reference, but since this is a linux thread I must ask:
Any Arch (or endeavourOS, same shit different logo) users here that had any issues on CachyOS that weren't present on Arch/EOS?

>>730022246
The fix for that is trivial, you either select the driver for your NVME while in the install kit or turn off something in bios.

>>730022604
Native packages need to come bundled with their dependencies. Even Steam's Native Linux games will break because it's asking for some old as fuck dependency that nobody has used for years. Dying Light is one such example

>>730022696
>winjeet tries to be helpful
>"its actually really easy, just install the driver!"
>"or turn [SOMETHING] off in your BIOS"
Thanks anon! How much do I owe you in Google play cards?

>>730022224
Before doing that you should report the bug to KDE and Freedesktop if it's a driver bug. It is arcane because you're never supposed to manually pass the EDID info but fetch it from the monitor.

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>>730022385
Because Window is completely irrelevant outside of playing videogames. It's like asking why nobody adds xbox360 system calls to linux kernel.

>>730022878
>I'm too retarded to google search
>I'm too retarded to write a non ironic, non green text brain vomit
>I'm too retarded for coherence

>>730022743
I don't play Dying Light, but "some old as fuck dependency that nobody has used for years" is exactly what should be provided by Steam Linux Runtime 1.0, and indeed there is a recent ProtonDB report saying that Steam Linux Runtime 1.0 runs Dying Light successfully. This is the default compatibility tool for Linux games on Steam except for those compiled for a newer Steam Linux Runtime (e.g. 3.0), by the way. So it should just work.

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>>730022696
Please ignore the rudeposter I appreciate the help. How do you select the driver in the installer? I turned on all the secureboot stuff in the bios, and turned off the "legacy compatibility stuff" windows suggested turning off too.

Is this a situation where I just need to do a fresh install of windows 11? The upgrade tool flat out refused to let me do it.

>>730022882
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=482974
Another anon has a similar/the same issue
They're calling it an nvidia driver bug(which it may be)

>>730023026
I legit don't recall the name of the option but I had to handle this issue twice already, once I solved it with the bios setting and the other by selecting the driver in the w11 install kit, there's literally an option for select your drivers there.

>>730023096
And before any of you niggers say
>Nvidia on Linux
I KNOW, IM RETARDED! But I refuse to use windows and got the 3070 as a gift

>>730023153
See the problem is I don't know how to GET to the windows 11 install kit because it wouldn't let me start the install tool because of secure boot.

That was the loop I was in and was very confused. After a few hours I installed linux out of frustration but I'm not wedded to it.

>>730023096
The drivers usually print errors in dmesg, you can check there. I'm not an Nvidia user so I don't know how easy it is to switch drivers but you could test with the open source driver as well to be sure. Could be a case where there's sadly no good solution. Instead of manually forcing an EDID it might be easier to force the monitor resolution with a kernel parameter (https://davejansen.com/add-custom-resolution-and-refresh-rate-when-using-wayland-gnome/). Be aware that this is pretty janky but easier and safer to do than a custom EDID

Is there a way to make is so that when i turn my main monitor off, kde doesnt automatically make my 2nd monitor the "primary" moniter after a certain amount of time? I ask because my primary monitor is 4k oled so i turn it off whenever im not using it so i dont risk burn in, where as my other monitor is 1080p lcd. But when i turn my main monitor back on, the ui scaling for everything will be super fucking tiny and fucked up until i close whatever application it is (usually steam) and re open it. its not the end of the world, its just slightly annoying since this happens multiple times a day every day. Maybe i just want to know how to prevent this UI scaling behavior from happening.

>>730023549
>link
I'll check that, thanks anon! As far as trying the open source drivers I'm already on nvidia-open, and the nouveau driver has never been actually usable for me. Low framerates, juttery stuttery, and extremely poor performance in games

Linux is largely usable but you will always come across little things that don't work right, need some tweak or just outright do not work at all. Most people have something like this and they decide whether they're willing to compromise it or spend the time trying to find an alternative, or just go back to Windows because they care about that a lot. In terms of this big blob called gaming, Linux is mostly compatible. There's fewer and fewer things that break in this day and age. 4 years ago I couldn't open a certain VN without input lag. Input lag in a fucking VN. 2 years ago, I couldn't get my fightstick to work with a certain fighting game related to that VN. Today, both work without doing anything. There is progress on shit that I find to be obscure and no one should care about.
But one of my hobbies is Photography. Linux is severely limiting. I have to learn how to use a whole different program to process my RAW files. And I mean whole different because the workflow is different, the nomenclature is different, everything about it is like learning a new fucking language. Most software isn't supported through anything like Proton. There is no big Valve backing production software. I have a little chinese device capable of adding digital stabilization to videos. I cannot use that properly anymore because the proprietary software used for it just fails to work, and I have to do a thingamajig with Gyroflow instead and waste more time. I managed (somehow) to install some software designated to fix the whole mess that it is to deal with the way my camera saves photos in my SD card through WINE, but it is practically unreadable because the fonts are all fucked up. It is much harder for someone to adjust if gaming or programming aren't the only things you do on Linux. Gaming on linux is a dream compared to anything you have to do on this.
I imagine it's the same for content creators, musicians, etc.

>>730022909
Outside of desktops you wanted to say. By the way if desktop linux was like android it would have about the same marketshare as it does on mobile.

>>730023771
I use my computer as a game console and have a mac for real work, so linux works fine for me, but if I was doing anything "real" on my PC I would want corporate supported software.

>>730023771
This isnt a linux issue, this is a software being written specifically for 1 single operating system and only that OS. You would have the same issues trying to run those applications on OSX if they dont have a native OSX version, because surprise surprise, the way to do it is also wine.

>>730023845
if desktop linux was like android it would be gay garbage you don't control on par with windows

Ok I've got mint up and running and Resident Evil 4 is playing buttery smooth at 120hz.
HOWEVER I need to disable my second 60hz monitor to actually make it run at 120hz.

Anyone know a better fix for this, rather than disabling my second monitor every time I play a game? I'm on AMD btw.

>>730023771
@grok sum it up in 10 words or less

>>730017958
>I think the worst part is that linux brings zero advantages.
I don't use it because of >muh nvidia, and I wouldn't shill linux to the average user. But that's not true. Linux is vastly more comfortable for software development, to the point that we even see shit like the react start menu because Microsoft's own devs don't know how to develop for their OS any more.
MS had to accept that they lost dev mindshare so these days WSL helps a lot, but it and stuff like docker-desktop is all still a VM at the end of the day. I had constant problems with it when I had to do cuda dev, although ironically, the best dev experience for that would require you to use nvidia/linux together which is another can of worms, nothing's perfect.

Besides dev the main advantage is working with files since it has well integrated support for soft and hard links to help organize everything, windows has them but support is obscure as fuck and limited. Backup tools are also a lot better, basically anything dealing with files is. Then Btrfs has stuff like compression, snapshots, merging disks, dedupe, integrity checks, and more but it expects you to be techie enough to know what's going on. MS gave it a shot to be fair but then they gave up on their next-gen fs, I don't think they care much about desktop at this point

So I mostly play games on Steam / GoG and emulate a bunch of consoles, do I need anything more than a fresh install of Linux in order to get all of this to work?

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>>730024410
>mint
If I had to guess, you're on X11 which doesn't allow for different monitors at different refreshrates and therefore need to be on Wayland.
Should you want to always start Mint in Wayland you may need to go into your login settings(usually named sddm or gddm in system settings, and set the behavior to always start in Wayland and not X11

>>730024410
yeah, seconding >>730024665
mint isn't a vidya distro because of x11

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>>730023956
>You would have the same issues trying to run those applications on OSX if they dont have a native OSX version
Point is the vast majority of that software is available on OSX, I guess because it's profitable.
Pic related for instance, they don't really seem to find it a problem to test in macOS, but they seem adamant to do it on Linux, even though the application even uses libraries I've seen available on linux. There's a clear "we can do it but we won't" sort of thing with a lot of software related to production that does not happen with macOS.
That said, I want to do everything in one OS, and if there's something macOS is hostile to, is gaming. Aside from the need for specific hardware that is clearly designed -not- to be used for games.

>>730024410
It should be configurable with xrandr, check arch wiki (most of things documented there are distro-agnostic)

>>730024447
Linux got good with games but not productivity software.

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>>730017958
>Windows telemetry
>schtizoshit

>>730024848
>been on arch for like 7-8 years now(on nvidia(on kde(on Wayland)))
>Buddy decides he's moving to Linux(on AMD(on kde(on X11)))
>go to his house and force him to update to the newest version which uses some fucking GNOME looking ass DE but at least it has Wayland so VRR support and no screen tearing(holy shit the screen tearing was so fucking bad)
>he switches back to KDE-x11 because "I DONT LIKE THE UPDATE WHY DID YOU FORCE ME TO UPDATE!"
I've been trying for years to get him on endeavor or cachy but whatever

>>730024410
You need Wayland. You might have luddites telling you you don't, but it's the way out of headaches, it's what people use when they say "it just works" in all those fucking youtube channels you keep seeing popping up. X11 severely restricts anything a bit advanced about displays (no HDR, no proper multimonitor high refresh rate support) so unless you have a more basic setup, Mint is not good for you. The desktop environment you use has a Wayland session but it's barebones and not that usable yet, while KDE Plasma has matured a lot, but it's ass to install it on your particular distro.

>>730024410
try settings-general, check option "disable compositing in fullscreen window" and run the game in fullscreen

>>730025294
But why did you force him to update? What are you Windows Update?

>>730019419
>terminal warns of error
>"lol tldr"
>hits enter
>errors
Wooooow

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>>730025330
>ack

>>730025412
I forced him to update because that was popOS "answer" for the heinous screen tearing. Elden Ring looked like it was being played on one of those trippy 80s oscilloscope monitors

>>730024665
Thanks. That worked.

>>730025330
https://gist.github.com/probonopd/9feb7c20257af5dd915e3a9f2d1f2277

>>730022246
If the game bans you for using Linux it isnt worth your time, just like if a website forces you to verify your ID to access it isnt worth your time.

>>730025497
>>730025604
Yeah guys, let's trick someone else into cucking their display to support shit they will never use!
Fuck off. You're the reason why people didn't switch before.

>>730025538
However now games will not recognize when I press the shift key. Nice

>>730025294
>get asked to fix tearing
>instead of creating an amdgpu config file enabling freesync, as documented on arch wiki, installs fucking wayland
arch niggers are truly the blight of linux

>>730025651
I still don't want the red mark of shame on my profile

>>730025772
I'm not using the arch wiki for fucking PopOS, an Ubuntu and debian derivative

>>730025895
>I'm retarded
that was obvious from your previous post

>>730008748
Are u using W10 of 11 now?

>>730025893
Just tell valve and they might even rape the dev a little

>>730022385
>>Nobody really does anything linux native
>he doesn't know
shiggy diggy lmao

>>730019683
PulseAudio is shit. Use Pipewire instead.

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>>730006937
used artix linux, feels finicky

im thinking of going to fedora or back to windows 11

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>>730006937
Unless you’re a coder
Don’t

Linux is for the biggest of basement dwellers

t. guy who got tricked by 4chan into formatting and installing Ubuntu version 10.04 back around 2010

Biggest fucking meme ever

Let me know when you have a functional OS that doesn’t require even the slightest coding expertise

Also
Fuck Windows and Mac
Mac for being gay
Windows for selling out

>>730027081
Can you rec a video editor akin to Davinci Resolve? Resolve won't download on my PC properly and I think their AUR version is outdated.

>>730027120
>2010
I have never used linux, but I don't think you should judge it based on what it was like 16 years ago.

>>730024665
See this response?

If you switch to Linux and don’t know how to code, this guy is going to be your new best friend helping you troubleshoot your OS on some random tech board (probably /g/) which will end with “sounds like a you problem”

Nerdy ass fuck won’t ever have children

>>730027120
this is the correct answer
even the steam deck can't play many games
just look at the "platinum" ratings for games on protondb and you see loads of "works perfect (but only after fucking around with it for 30 minutes each time you want to play because some gayass dependency was updated and broke something)"

>>730027120
I installed it around that time too because of college nerds recommending it to me and it was ass. Now I'm on cachyOS and it works like a charm.

>>730027550
that's because linux has been steadily improving since the start, while microsoft has been enshittifying since windows 8.

>>730021598
Probably because Lutris is complete dogshit

>>730027275
Blender serves that purpose

>>730027550
>>730027454
>please please PLEASE DON'T USE LINUX AAAAAAAA

>>730027120
>2010
bruh
Steam wasn't even on Linux back then

>>730006937
WHY DOES BLUETOOTH SUCK SO FUCKING BAD??? I TRIED TO USE DUALSHOCK 4 CONTROLLER ON LINUX VIA BLUETOOTH AND IT DOESN'T RESPOND, IT'S LAGGY AS SIN AND THAT'S NO WAY TO PLAY HOMBRE.

HELP A NIGGER OUT PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU ALL I WANT IS TO USE MY WIRELESS CONTROLLER DESU

>>730028956
i never got the appeal of wifi and bluetooth, cable means no battery, better latency and no packet loss.

>>730028956
yeah this >>730029320, you dont need it anyways

>>730029320
>>730029370
well I too prefer wired but most wired controllers aren't actually wired, they're like the dualshock 4, wireless but you can plug them in via usb cable. recommend me a good wired controller then.

>>730029370
i mean it should work still work
>>730029483
arch wiki always has good info https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Bluetooth if you want to do some research
my 8bitdo just works ootb.

>>730029483
you dont need bluetooth controllers trust me

use an old xbox controller and wire it

>>730028956
98% of time your shit won't respond, chances are you didn't set up device permissions. If you use Arch, just install game-devices-udev from AUR, reboot and should work.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gamepad#Device_permissions

>>730013813
>his argument is generally true for private commercial software vs free open source software. If I have the option, and features are equal, I'll prefer the open source version. But pro software are often more mature and feature rich, devs have better incentive.
This is really a good point, and my main problem with linux. I just got an M1 Mac Mini used and I have it vesa mounted to the back of my monitor. Whenever I dick around with mixing audio, I just switch inputs from my PC to the Mac.
>In reality if you're a power user, you can do so many cool things on windows. It has so many cool tools that do no exist on linux.
A lot of being a "windows power user" is figuring out workarounds for how shit Windows 11 (and 10 to a slightly lesser extent) is. Most of that is running scripts to realign the taskbar and to bring the not shit context menu back. A lot of that is getting into the registry editor and policy editor to stop Windows Search from searching Bing and the Microsoft Store. Or just going full autist and learning how to configure a custom .xml auto installer to strip out the bloat and to do all of that automatically during the installation (which is the only way to install the OS without an online account in 25H2). If you're going to fuck with your OS to that extent, you might as well learn how to install Arch manually. On some AMD systems, you have to prevent Windows Update from automatically downloading drivers or it'll corrupt your graphics drivers. You should do that on most OEM systems too to prevent Windows Update from doing a bios update on your mom's computer, and she hard shuts it down midway through because she doesn't want to wait for the update and bricks her system. Plus side to that is you get to learn how to flash a motherboard bios so you can save money and buy bios locked laptops.

>>730029741
>>730030569
I've perused this documentation before, it doesn't apply to me because I'm on Kubuntu and it appears to be a special case or something. I don't know, I haven't been able to figure it out. It's definitely not because of device permissions, from what I understand it's that the actual bluetooth drivers specifically for the DS4 are older than time itself and no newer ones have been produced, thus it's not a simple issue of installing the correct software/plug and play. maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. I may never figure it out, so I'll probably just cough out cash for a new controller. still waiting for a good recommendation for a truly wired controller and not "uhh it's wireless but you can plug it in via usb" because the cable can just wiggle and come loose and then the connection just suddenly drops and I hate that shit.

>>730031994
>still waiting for a good recommendation for a truly wired controller and not "uhh it's wireless but you can plug it in via usb" because the cable can just wiggle and come loose and then the connection just suddenly drops and I hate that shit.
Not to shill but unironically get a $20 Gamesir.

>>730031994
the perfect controller that switches between 2.4ghz and wired is at most 3 months away

>>730031994
Is a usb xbox one controller one of those fake wired ones? Mine acts like its wired and it worked in linux out of the box when I tried it.
That said, I hate controllers. The original xbox controller was great until the drifting became intolerable, now I'm on the xbox one controller and the right trigger started sticking intermittently. Meanwhile an optical mouse costs like $20 and lasts until the end of the universe. Why does controller hardware suck ass?

>>730009009
Your supposed to buy an additional SSD to try Linux, dummy. That way, you can switch between OSs by using GRUB or simply changing the boot device in BIOs.

>>730032471
I'll probably just get some cheap ass OG xbox copycat controller
>>730032793
sounds like when people say
>two more weeks :)
about their favorite game being ported to PC
>>730033282
well I don't know but I'm just talking about controllers that are sold as 'wired' but are in fact connected via a detachable cable that is usually USB-C on one end and miniusb on the other end, aka not actually wired.

>>730027107
>Arch
breaks all the time and you're told its your fault when it does
>Fedora and fedora based Linux
just works bro
>Debian and Ubuntu
Just works but your software may be older.

>>730033961
>controllers that are sold as 'wired' but are in fact connected via a detachable cable that is usually USB-C on one end and miniusb on the other end,
that's the best kind though? you can easily buy a new cable if it wears out instead of just throwing away the controller.

>>730033961
I mean, the cheapest gamesir is a pretty good wired only dualshock 4 clone with an xinput mode and hall effect sticks. Like I said, not trying to shill but it's a pretty good. Really the only downside is that the dpad is way shittier than the Dualshock, but it's still useable.

>>730034030
>>breaks all the time
>update arch server once a month for yaers
>never breaks
hmm...

>>730034669
well in my experience the outlet the cable plugs into wears away over time, which results in a loose connection no matter the cable. might as well just get an actually wired controller
>>730034729
I'd get either gamesir or powerA but only if they had an actually wired version, which I have yet to see on the market. most of theirs are what I described, wireless but with a detachable cable.

>>730034030
your limine?

probably our year?

>>730028956
>doesn't even mention distro
Endeavour intentionally guts bluetooth by default you need hackerman commands to enable it.

>>730037473
It's a good thing. It teaches you how to enable services.

>>730027120
You could legally fuck a kid born in 2010 you fucking retard

>>730006937
Why use Linux?

>>730027120
>take an opinion of someone who last used it in 2010
>when the only acceptable timeframe for an opinion is from within the last 3 years when deck released and proton got good

>>730007338
For me on KDE, Steam has always claimed it was blocking locking and power saving, but it never actually did. When using a controller since their inputs didn't count for the lock timer.

Can we get uhhhhh working rumble next?

>>730043302
that shitty controller gimmick? it doesn't work already? I could understand people not noticing or caring.

what distro should i run?

Unfortunately I still need windows because nvidia and I play DX12 and VR games sometimes. But I will say this.
FUCK anyone who says windows is easy or "just works". There's no excuse for some of it either. First off, the upgrade .exe will fail with an obtuse error halfway through if you don't run it as admin. Did they not test it at all??? And it just keeps fucking up, the latest had me find it was trying to install boot shit to a different disk, I had to fuck around in diskpart and learn about partition guids and shit. I literally had to open up my case and unplug all my other disks. FUCK windows and this jeetware, installing arch from scratch would have been easier than this shit. The worst thing is that the error messages are useless and it never even tells you what it's trying to do, even if what it's trying to do is completely retarded.
>no reaction image because that disk is unplugged right now so just imagine incandescent rage

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>>730044706
got u bro

>>730044370
It works only on xinput outside of Steam but I have never gotten it to work in Steam no matter what input type.

>>730044887
I was imagining the shaking pepe gif with a red tint but thanks. I just hope windows doesn't keep screwing around with boot on incremental updates too or I might have to find a way to nuke Redmond.

>>730044574
For gaming: Bazzite. Don't listen to anyone else saying Mint, Fedora, Ubuntu, etcetera. It's Bazzite for gaming and nothing else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovOx4_8ajZ8

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>>730006937

>>730011271
>shops
Britfag detected. Disregard all arguments of a conquered people.

>>730046267
wrong
not that i agree with that retard but our uniparty has literally collapsed
chuds are projected to sweep the next election

>>730007840
Just stick to windows if youre not hardcore about messing with your pc. and by that i mean youre not willing to open the case or install new drivers. there is really little point to switching unless youre all about your privacy. Linux plays most of my games but cant play some of the most popular games thanks to corporate medeling. If you really want to shift from windows, dual booting is the way to go. use linux for what you can. when you hit a road block, use windows.

>>730009163
i agree to a degree. ive been dualbootijg for a while mainly using windows. only recently made a more permenant shift to linux since i seem to get better screenshots from linux.

>>730007840
Dual booting with Windows can be dangerous. Windows update has a long history of 'accidentally' obliterating linux partitions. Recommend a fresh drive if possible. Other than that, if you're on nvidia, after you're done installing, pull up the driver install tool and install whatever makes sense for you.

>>730046089
bazz is indeed the pick you want if you're a retard that doesn't understand linux
if it ever limits you with its immutability you're good enough to graduate to arch based distros

>>730006937
>2026 will finally be the year of Linux!

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>>730048041
yeah
mind that this is entirely just smarter users
most windows users can't install linux

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>>730009546
Might as well use macOS.

>>730043302
>>730044370
>rumble
What in the hell makes you think it doesn't work?
It works in this game: >>730022690
That's a Linux game, but I know very fucking well that it works with Proton as well because my kids were playing Crazy Taxi on my Linux machine earlier today and making a godawful noise by putting the controller down on the desk while crashing the car.
>>730045938
>have never gotten it to work in Steam
Literally how? Are you using the unofficial Flatpak version? Or a poorly supported meme controller?

>>730009062
>for gaming it sucks monkey nuts through a straw.
What game does it not run well, retarded shill?

>>730048905
why would you want to use a big phone the core tenets of which are pretentiousness and homosexuality

>>730049178
All he has to do is say Fortnite. Then you say "that game sucks" and he goes "heh Linux users just say anything that doesn't work sucks". What's the point?

>>730009062
You're going to have your fucking neck SNAPPED when the noose is tied, kike

>>730049332
then we'll say that you're a gay high time preference nigger with no impulse control
every game where easy anti cheat has been enabled has linux users in a better state privacy wise because it's stuck on contained user level
windows cucks have to suffer with kernel level spyware knowing everything about the system

>>730049178
Fortnite

>>730049507
>gay high time preference
?
>no impulse control
??
I'm not even saying you're wrong but there's no point in arguing with people who have decided not to use Linux until it runs every game including the ones you're glad it can't.
Also I hope you picked up on the context clues in >>730049332 that clearly indicate I'm not the other guy e.g. the use of the third person. I use Linux and I don't play Fortnite. But this debate is a waste of time and you're not going to "win" any exchange that starts with daring someone to name a game that doesn't work on Linux, because they can just name one and then you have to dismiss it and they get to call you out for moving the goalposts. I hope this helps.

>>730049970
i'm not the other guy either
i think anyone who uses those soulless matchmaker slop games as an excuse is a low iq troglodyte that wouldn't mind his mother being a whore if she brought the money back home

>>730050150
heh Linux users just say anything that doesn't work sucks

>>730050846
adobe shit not working is a bad thing, but that's entirely on adobe
anticheats not working is entirely a fault of the goyim even letting games have that level of control and linux being sane on security

>>730006937
What's the support look like for third party controllers?

>>730048905
>managed to dodge the proton renaissance by making their own special snowflake api and purging vulkan support
I'm impressed by how dedicated apple is to making games suck on their PC platform

>>730053456
YMMV but I use the GameSAAAAAR cyclone 2 redeemed edition in PS4 mode for the gyro and analog triggers on a dongle and it works great with the exception that I can't use 2 at the same time if both are on dongle or both on Bluetooth(so I have to have 1 on dongle and 1 on bluetooth)

>>730050846
Linjeets say that their shit rocks too, but it turns out that you can make better frameworks that actually work and are modular in like 300 LOC instead of using their 6,000,000 LOC dogshit.