They cancelled it, didn't they.
Nah. It'll just be $3000 for PS3 tier hardware though.
>>730014395No but they did go silent mode after the price announcement killed all hype. They knew it was going to happen if you were listening to their language.
>>730014395>Valve launches Steam Machine first time>it fails >Valve tries again years later>it fails before its even launched Steam Machine is the XFL of video game consoles.
>>730014395no
Nah, they just need to release a standard version without DDR5.
>>730015263How much of a difference does DDR5 make in comparison to DDR4 in a non-unified memory setup?
after hooking my own PC up to a TV i hated the experience of Steam Big Picture so much I actually went and bought a PS5
I will buy it just as long as it's not over $1K for the 2TB model.
>>730014526>No but they did go silent mode after the price announcement killed all hype.The announced an official price?where?
>>730015263Retard of all retards >>730015372They're non interchangeable totally different standards. Theoretically however DDR5 has about 30% higher bandwidth at the same transfer rate from the doubled bank structure.
>>730014395KWABOTY
>>730015372>difference does DDR5 make in comparison to DDR4This question is actually meaninglesssince Valve only uses AMD APUs and exclusively supports DDR5.But to answer your question:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c2A50BRe0U
Valve doesn't have the hardware contacts to not get ripped off by the price hikes
>>730015782cant you manually change the 2TB?
>>730015836>Theoretically however DDR5 has about 30% higher bandwidth at the same transfer rate from the doubled bank structureYeah I know but how does that translate into game performance typically. When I upgrade my PC I just buy a new one wholesale so I don't really have a reference point as to how much performance I gained when I went from DDR4 to DDR5>>730015921>since Valve only uses AMD APUs and exclusively supports DDR5Steam Machine doesn't use an APU at all, it's not like the Deck. You might be right about it not supporting DDR4 though, I don't know
>>730016136>Steam Machine doesn't use an APU at all, it's not like the Deck.This isn't really important.The key point is that the CPU only supports DDR5—you have no choice.
>>730016136>Yeah I know but how does that translate into game performance typically.Only one generation of intel chips had an IMC capable of addressing both, and the in game performance difference comes down entirely to how memory bound the game is, as well as the various nuances of intel's IMC in that generation of chips.
>>730014395they may as well. the price will be high now and no one will buy it.
>>730014395This thing is as powerful as the series s. If it doesn't have the same price as that thing pre-price hike they are officially more jewish than xbox
I just want the controller
>>730016383>This thing is as powerful as the series s.8GB VRAM16GB DDR5$1,500 USD (excluding taxes and shipping)Enjoy 2026
>>730016389>controllerVersion with controller included$1,570 USD
>>730016624I don't want the cube at all
>>730016527$1100 right this second still gets you a 8700F with 32GB of RAM and an 8GB RTX 5060 and a 1TB SSDhttps://www.amazon.com/WIWB-Desktop-GeForce-High-end-Computer/dp/B0FT2P447C/There is no conceivable way the Steam cube is even $900
>>730016624They'll round it up to a nice even $1600 and claim the free copy of Portal 1 included makes it worth it.
>>730016383An xbox can only play xbox games, so you can take a hit on the cost of selling it because you'll make it back in the games. If you make a PC $300 with those specs cunts will buy thousands of them to use as office machines.
>>730014395They'd be fools not to. If they already stockpiled the hardware, it would be a better business move to just sell the GPUs and RAM to ai companies for 5x the price they'd have sold them to customers.
>>730016741>Portal 1Still no Half-Life 3
>>730015372between 25-30%. But given the rest of the hardware as well as the streamlined OS, the gabebox probably wouldn't even make full use of DDR5. The data stream would get bottlenecked elsewhere. DDR4 would be fine.
>>730016787>you can take a hit on the cost of selling it because you'll make it back in the gamesNobody subsidizes their voido game console prices anymore. Everyone has made the shift to pushing the full price onto the consumer.
>>730016929They're at cost with massive economies of scale. Besides that dude wanted a series s price. Without a huge subsidy that would be impossible.
>>730015834No, they didn't announce a price but they've gone out of their way to say a lot of things about not subsidizing the cost in any way. However with the price of these components rising through the roof I think by the time they settle on a price they get slapped with another increase on important pieces and they can't reasonably lock it in for retail purposes.
>>730016929>Nobody subsidizes their voido game console prices anymoreSony still does as of right now, PS5s were dirt cheap on Black Friday and holiday sales
>>730016720The cube is an entirely custom made computer with likely almost no off the shelf parts. In the hardware space, Valve are literal nobodies who can't even sell 5m Decks. The cube will likely cost $2000 each to produce and they will make a massive loss on each unit to sell it.
Valve is one of the worst companies on this planet, if you shill for them you're an unbelievable idiot>Giga Rich fat nigga spends all the earnings on yachts where he does brainwashing diddy party shit>new hires are all arabs jeets and blacks>don't update two of the most popular games and turn them into shit by catering to thirdies (cs and dota)>now those games are just 50% chinese and russian bots farming $0.03 skins>compete in small market segments by going all in on them>still manage to fail to get 1st place (raped in VR by meta, handhelds by switch & switch 2)>spend all your dev time since 2019 to make deadlock only for it to flop because it caters not just to third worlders this time, but to trannies as wellhahahhahahah how can pcbros be real man this shit is NOT coming out, it's DEAD
>>730016787>xboxI just thought of something:If Microsoft made the Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X run Windows, they'd become the most cost-effective personal computers available today.Why wouldn't Microsoft do that?The Xbox consoles are practically obsolete anyway.
>>730016720The small form factor is a major selling point for me with the Steam machine. I don't have the space for a typical sized gaming PC.
>>730017170It uses off the shelf low binned AMD APU with the IGP fused off. It uses an off the shelf mobile RX 7600. It uses off the shelf memory. The only thing custom about is the case and mobo, and this doesn't matter at all to price, the industry is full of tons of SFF NUClike miniPCs. It isn't expensive to make a system like this.
>>730017193Probably because the AI that the retarded jeet running microsoft gets all his ideas from hasn't told him to do that.
>>730017176If it caters to tranny third worlders, why are you against it?
>>730017285me tooother mini pcs don't have dp
>>730017193There is no vendor lock in with a Windows PC. Thats the entire point of a console. A console no matter what hardware it uses is just a computer with vendor locked software.
>>730017193Consoles are sold at cost or better to sell you games which you make a profit on. What would be the point of selling a product you at best break even on?
>>730014395fat fuck gaben please sell this at a loss so I can play video games without financing my housesell off one of your fucking yachts or something fuck
>>730018090Would you buy a heavily locked down version that would only run steam games?
>>730014395if valve sells this for under 750 dollars they will sell millionsfuck microsoft lolif i were valve id even take the hit to sell at a losswhy? because everyone even buy nothing people like me will buy a steam game eventually lollinux is needed to prevent ms from taking over
>>730015985You could in the Steam Deck relatively easily. There already exists breakdown videos of the Steam Machine, so you can probably get your answer pretty easily. Almost certainly the answer is yes though.
>>730016720microcenter sells scam pcs for like 750 to 900 with a 5060 lol
>>730017638The cost will come from Valve only being able to commit to 1m unit production batches, as opposed to say Sony or Nintendo who can guarantee 50m+ over a generation.
>>730018817Newsflash: other OEMs making miniPCs aren't all selling millions of units per year. Minisforum sells a couple hundred thousand units per year of some of their best SKUs.>b-b-but its expensive cuz smolis not based in any facet of reality whatsoever
The important thing is its price. I can't see it be a success if it's more than $600 (and I'm being nice here, these are just 3yo laptop parts slapped together so I expect a $500 price). I wouldn't be surprised if op is right and they just end up dropping it.
>>730019014bro scalpers are already byuing $1200 mobo kits for RAM, If Steam Box is $1500 on launch it will sell, and def sell if it comes with all the controllers and shit.
>>730018940Other OEMs don't demand AMD make new SKUs of APUs. People like Valve take that hit then the OEMs buy any leftovers from the production runs for relatively cheap.
>>730015834They said they were not subsidizing the cost meaning that if you look at the specs you can get a good estimate of cost (atm it's going to be a bit over a grand) so needless to say this killed most hype because it fills no void in the market and is just this weird to costly for Console players and too limiting for PC enthusiasts.
>>730019549Valve isn't getting custom silicon, its just the 8400F with a lower cTDP. Literally leftover near worthless trash.
>>730018315>if valve sells this for under 750 dollars they will sell millionsThey already made it clear it's going to be over 800 and that was before ramageddon kicked in. Microsoft is fucking itself just fine, they don't need any help killing themselves.
If it was $500 I would have grabbed one for sure but anything more I'll just keep using my PC. All the hype died off when they said it would be cost of parts.
>>730014395No, but I doubt they will make any high volume of them. My guess is 500k at most. I can't see them having faith that they have any more crazies than that looking at the last time they tried this.
>>730019996A Deck in a dock is effectively what you get for that price bracket.
>>730020284Entry level shitter laptop totally trounce the Deck. Prior to this recent price absurdity $800 laptops shat all over the Cube's specs.
Might as well ask here, if this okay for 5k?
>>730020739Do you need 64gb ram?
>>730020739Probably. Two years ago it wouldn't be but given RAM and GPU prices right now that seems like a reasonable deal.
>>730014395Steam OS sucks. You can't play most of the popular online games because they block Linux users.
Can they atleast release the Steam Controller already? I was never interested in that shitty ass prebuilt PC but the controller looked very interesting as an all-round PC gamepad.
>>730021035Only select few titles, and this is done intentionally buy the devs/publisher, its not the fault of Linux
>>730019996They never said it would be cost of parts. And besides they wouldn't be taking a loss.
>>730020739>1000W psu>for 5090lol, lmao. who's the builder? because you're getting fucked if you buy it
>>730021098Not him but who cares whose fault it is? That doesn't change the truth. Also other launchers are a huge pain in the ass to use on SteamOS. Everything has to go through weird translation programs.
>>73002085964gb is 5.1k and 32 is 4.8k so seems like a good deal to future proof. If I drop to 1TB SDD it's 5k even and I already have a 2TB SDD I can use.>>730020884Thanks, now the question is do I really need it or do I have FOMO>>730021135Seems fine if I'm not overclocking?
>>730021173Could just install Windows if it really bothers you.
>>730014582Is Gaben the true kwabotty?
>>730014395I'm going to laugh at all the retards in this thread when it turns out to be around 500$
Unlikely, but the memory element may make them delay it or deal with higher prices. Then again, if they managed to lock a certain amount of supply in they may make out big fucking time because they're going to make something cheaper and accessible when the rest of the market is going crazy. While I'd easily buy Deckard (though I am nonplussed by a couple of limitations like the focus on wireless streaming only as opposed to a wired connection option) and the Steam Controller 2.0, this one was not on my purchase list simply because I already have PCs. i do wish they would have waited and/or put in a custom GPU that was RDNA4 based instead of the off the shelf abortion, though. RDNA4 means better performance and access to FSR4/Redstone on the GPU. They did this kind of shit with the Deck's GPU early, where at announcement it was basically the only one of its kind with Zen2 + RDNA2 cores, where everything off the shelf was a crappy Vega core integrated. Instead, they used their partnership with AMD to give something that was not available outside of the PS5/XBSX planned chipset. Anyway, Steam Machine as a concept is fine, but needs some tweaking on the hardware leve especially if its not going to be user-upgrade capable. Unfortunately, the RAM and other hardware bullshit may negatively affect it.
>>730021318You think it will cost virtually the same as a Switch 2?
>>730016329yeah that was basically a ddr4 cpu that can also do ddr5 for fun.
>>730014395More interested in the Steam Frames as an option to not have to deal with Meta faggotry.
>>730021385>no need for battery>no screen>no controllerVS>more expensive APU>ram prices exploding. >bigger cooling sinkI think it's going to be in the 850$ price range because of the ram prices.
>>730021658Same.
>>730014395>do nothing>don't announce the price until nvidia, micron, amd, samsung, etc. all stop producing shit for consumers>now you can charge twice as much as you intended and nobody will complain because a 32GB GPU costs 6000 dollars
>>730017176this is a weird type of posting these days where im more inclined to believe its bait these days as opposed to say, 4 years ago. idk it feels strange and lighthearted still
>>730016787Not anymore, why do you think Xbox keeps shooting up in price, idiot. Microsoft is no longer selling Xbox at a loss, they're planning to increase the price again.
This thing will be 1000 dollars minimum, if you think it'll be cheaper than that you're a fucking idiot
Steam Machine will be $600-$700 and dying Snoys and dead Xbots will seethe.
https://www.microcenter.com/product/704075/powerspec-g529-gaming-pcCPU shits on the cubeGPU shits on the cube, actually has the full die version of the gimped laptop GPU the cube uses 16GB of RAM1TB SSDtons of gaymer case fans and a tower cooler$800The gabe cube cannot possibly be sold for more than comparably specced systems, and more powerful systems are available all over the market for well under $850
>>730022075stfu animeslop
>>730014395Don't all their hardware releases use the same 16gb of RAM? In that case they must have some existing supply and contracts for the deck which can be rerouted. This is the absolute worst timing to be releasing 2 pieces of hardware while supporting a third that uses ram tough. This might be why they killed the LCD deck.
>>730025268>Don't all their hardware releases use the same 16gb of RAM?No. The Deck and the Frame use LPDDR5X chips soldered on their boards.
>>730025268Valve is just going to delay this for another year like Sony delayed PS6 till 2028.
>>730025581I want the vr headset now. Steam machine is pretty superfluous and overlaps with an issue the deck already addresses
>>730020739If you can't make that PC last for at least 10 years without upgrading any of its parts, then it's a waste of money
>>730026000I agree. I'd want that Steam Controller. The console doesn't interest me the least as Steam Deck was already pretty underwhelming for me.
reminder that the steam machine's specs are underwhelming because AI was already fucking over the market for computer parts before the RAM explosion
>>730026063stfu animeslop
>>730026000considering consumer computer part prices are soaring, the gabe cube for $700-800 will be a great dealuntil built-up stocks run out, that is, since new ram will have to be purchased at new prices
>>730026240How is something significantly weaker than an $800 PC right now a great deal? The mobile 7600 is DOGSHIT. 6 low clocked Zen4 cores limited to 30w is dogshit.
>>730026221anime website
>>730014395>Your games on the big screenLike, with a hdmi cable? Jamie pull up how much a hdmi cable costs.
>>730026212Was it? I built my new pc a few weeks before ram prices entered their final death spiral and most of my parts were the price I would expect besides the GPU and RAM, GPUs have been fucked for a decade.
you faggots are all retarded, steam machine is basically a laptop without a screen, mechanical keyboard, touchpad and battery, so it won't cost that much, unless valve go full jew and want to make some huge profits of it.
>>730026636The idea is normal people don't want a huge RGB monstrosity in their living rooms so they can just get a nice little cube that fits in with their decor
>>730026212No the specs were and are terrible because Valve chose to buy ewaste from AMD's scrap bin
>>730015682So you hated steam big picture so you decided you wanted to play 0.0001% of the games available instead of nearly 100%
>>730025581>EARLY 2026
>>730026240>the gabe cube for $700-800 will be a great dealNot really no.
I just want the new steam controllerluv me trackpadssimple as
>>730027052Ah fuck it's only the trackpad? I love them too but I live having the thumb stick too like on the deck
>>730027052Me too. It's really hard to find a good wireless solution on PC.
I've already seen some valvetroons coping by pretending pc component costs will not affect the steam machine, a pc that needs those components
>>730017193Because they wanted a walled garden. The nextbox is allegedly going to be more open but wont be sold at a loss.
>>730027189new one has two sticks too. But the truth is that trackpads are superior to sticks anyway. Not just for camera, but for movement too. Playing a game like MGSV using the trackpad to move around was an absolute joy. And they're so versatile too, if you know what you're doing you can do neat stuff like tapping the edges will trigger an entire new series of inputs. I play ER and the souls games with a setup like that with the edges of each trackpad set to d-pad inputs, so that I can always cycle through weapons/items/spells/menus while still being able to walk and/or look around.
>>730021318You are the retard if you think valve will see this shit under market price for the components. Only the cheapest steam deck was sold at that before the current tech issues. Business would literally but that as their office pc if it was that cheap.
>>730027347at that point it'll just be a prebuilt with gamepass already installed, akin to steam machine being a prebuilt with steam preinstalled?
>>730021318Sure
Gaben needs a new yacht with a planetarium, please understand...
With ram prices being more and more retarded the thing will end up costing like $1500 or something
>>730027052>>730027268How easy it's to do DP on FGs with that controller? I wanna get back to SF6 to main my wife. I hate doing DPs on PS5 pad and my Hitbox cable is broken
>>730027593I think the idea is to have it run Xbox games and pc games. So yes and no. I'm still hoping the official xbox emulator is real.
>>730027507>the truth is that trackpads are superior to sticks anyway. Not just for camera, but for movement tooI feel like the only person on earth who would have an opinion this retarded is a pc gamer who never touched a controller till they were in their late 20s.
>>730028085Pressure sensitive touchpads are better than a stick for degrees of precision
valve need to hire actual video game people to help them.they have no idea how to advertise, market or sell things.
>>730028263That goes against the Valve policy of having a maximum of 30 employees.
>>730028085for precise movement on an analogue stick, you have to awkwardly estimate the angle and degree you want to tilt the stick to.for a trackpad, you put your thumb on the precise spot needed. you're the one who is ignorantly dismissing something you've never truly tried.
>730026776At best it'll cost the same the same as the average midrange prebuilt shit machine because Gaben isn't going to be selling it for a loss, and the base parts that make it up already cost more than a PS5 before including them needing to be custom ordered for the smaller form factor and inflation of chip prices.
>>730028229Really good touchpads are useful for certain things, but they also suck at continuous pressure and much like a mouse you have to keep on dragging/swiping along them; there's nothing wrong with this but its not the same use case as an analog stick. The Steam touchpads are probably the best haptics and function around on the Deck, and mixed with something like their thumbstick-contact gyro activation, it can give some mouse like precision between the two, but they're not a replacement. This is what Valve found out with the Steam Controller 1.0 that no matter what kind of touchpad shit you did you actually needed both LS and RS most of the time
>>730027052Does the new one support Windows, like I can use the trackpads for cursors out of games/steam? I would never use a mouse outside of games if it. I like being hunched in my chair. I could have my keyboard on my lap and the controller in my hands. No more hunching for the mouse.
>>730014395Can they just release the controller already, that's the only thing I care about.
>>730028580The pads on the Steam Controller 1 are not pressure sensitive
>>730028229There are pretty much no games where you need a higher level of precision more than you need a spring loaded auto centering force for movement. The force and angle tells you how far away you are from neutral while the track pad is arbitrary and requires visual feedback on the screen or a mental map of where your thumb is at all times.Using track pads for movement is some autistic retard preference like needing to play racing games with a keyboard because that's how you started gaming.
>>730026240>considering consumer computer part prices are soaring, the gabe cube for $700-800 will be a great dealGabe isn't magically immune to the consequences RAM chips all being backordered from the factories.
>>730028597no idea but I imagine it would. I don't use windows anymore, but when I did, it was just as straightforward to set up a desktop profile in steam input. The caveat is that you just need steam running in order to properly use the controller for other applications this way.
>>730028678Not being able to understand anything out of your very limited assumptions is a genuine sign of autism that you yourself are displaying
>>730028597pretty sure they can.also nigga, any controller can function as a mouse. My x360 work just fine for what you described.
>>730028410It's not awkward at all and it can be estimated very easily due to tactile feedback and an auto center, you have absolutely no positional feedback on a track pad before input so you do actually have to estimate where your thumb is going to contact the pad.
>>730028696read the second sentence>until built-up stocks run out, that is, since new ram will have to be purchased at new prices
>>730028678>>730028901you take your thumb off the pad to stop moving and autocenter you absolute bafoon
>>730028862I own a deck and use the track pads regularly. It's very easy for me to understand why it's retarded to use them for movement. I can see why some people would prefer them for aim even though I would never use them for that either.
>>730015834It was readable through the energy in the room
>>730028263Advertise where? The people these products are aimed at already use Steam to being with. Valve just needs to add a splash for new products on the home page and everyone knows it's out. And it's direct to consumers, no need to lick the execs at walmart or whatever retailer to stock your inventory.
>>730014395Pre-orders have been up since 12pm I just bought onehttps://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine
>>730028874yeah, but it's not as responsive.
>>730028983Ok so now you need to move very carefully left of center, how the fuck are you supposed to know where the center of the track pad is without looking at it?
>>730029176How do you type on your keyboard without looking at the keys?Or judging from your autistic posts, you can't.
>>730026801this is what everybody posting alternative pcs in these threads doesn't get
>>730026212The specs are underwhelming for the same reason the Steam Deck's and Nintendo's Switches specs are underwhelming. Valve figured out that going all in on high specs is stupid. Sony, Microsoft, and graphicsfags are about to find that out the hard way, but they get what they deserve.
>>730029258Kek so your solution is exactly the thing you were just complaining about, you just slap your retarded thumb on the track pad and hope it's in the exact location you want it to be, it won't so you then have to make micro adjustments with visual feedback. Even keyboards have nubs on the index finger home keys to calibrate your hand positions without looking. The solution you are proposing is inferior in almost every way.
this might be copium, but it's possible the price won't be too terrible if valve had the foresight to make deals and contracts with hardware manufacturers ahead of time and/or already have a stockpile of RAM and the like. Sony did this with PS5's parts, which is why it didn't get a drastic price-hike whereas xbox is about to have a 3rd price hike. Having said that, the fact that valve has been radio silent since the initial announcement doesn't foster optimism.
>>730026801>>730029330Imagine how easy LAN parties would be if everyone was packin a Gabe Cube.
>>730015263>openai starts buying ddr5>ddr5 supply goes down>prices go up>people start buying ddr4 instead>ddr4 supply goes down>prices go up
>>730029514sure thing, boss. I'll just be over here continuing to play everything from elden ring to system shock 2 with my steam controller.
>>730014395There's no point if it doesn't cost less than a good pre-built.
>>730028597>hunching for the mousejust get a chair you can sit back in and put a little table next to it for the mouse, is everybody stupid except me
>>730014395Ot's DOA anways, gonna cost way to fuckin much.
>>730029514Their stock is going to evaporate immediately. They couldn't keep the deck in stock for like a year. Any price they set on their existing RAM stockpile will have to be raised straight away which only pisses off everyone who misses the original window.
>>730029703Or get a chair with a flat armrest to balance a mousepad on.
>>730029330>waaaah I don't want lights which I can just turn off so I'll buy a massively weaker system months down the road when I could have something better right this second Okay
>>730029703the goal is not to extend your arm and shoulders. nobody is stupid except you.
It's time to go back to custom hardware
>>730014395>Steam machines will die again
>>730029551OpenAI never bought ddr5 ram, they bought the wafers that make everything. They also don't even use ddr ram, they use HBM. The prices are going up because they are exerting such massive pressure on Samsung and the other companies they would sacrifice all their other revenue streams to fulfill the AI demand.
>>730029821>just buy this big boat anchor you have to take apart and disconnect gay lights we put in for no reason when you could have something better and smaller in a couple months
>>730030285An mITX case is not a big boat anchor. The fact that you instantly need hyperbole shows you know you don't have a valid argument.
>>730014395It's hard to believe a multibillion dollar company like valve didn't lock in costs ahead of time
>>730014395Best case scenario is they release a Being your own RAM model. Worst case is that it's approaching $1k.
>>730030591Valve is only 300 employees and has never had to deal with price fluctuations this extreme, it's very likely they didn't lock in costs for all components for more than a few months.
>>730030728Bring your own ddr5 ram is the worst case scenario. Nobody who needs a shitty gaming pc has has their own ddr5 ram, if they have to buy it they are paying double or quadruple what value would pay.
>>730030779There are geekbench results for various test systems they've produced. They probably bought millions of SODIMMs years ago when they had their first prototype box.Companies don't just buy shit last minute when the logistics of manufacturing take months to years to setup.
>>730030972Valve didn't buy shit last minute, they also didn't buy enough supply to last years. The question is then when their supply will run out and if that's less than 1 year they aren't going to risk pissing everyone off for a temporary price cut.
>>730030591>lock costs>sorry mate we can't sell you chips for 5 bucks when everyone else buys them for 500, we're cancelling your order
>>730015682Based
>>730014395>Steam about to enter the console market>SUDDENLY RAM and GPU prices through the roofIt's all connected I tell you
>>730031454>what are contracts
>>730031556Its no more a console than any other prebuilt PC or laptop
>>730031556Well it kind of is. Open AIs biggest early investor is Microsoft and the biggest competitor to steam machines and steamOS is Microsoft and windows. Valve is also primarily an AMD partner while Nvidia is the AI behemoth behind almost everything, they are also in competition with meta in the VR space. This isn't intentional but fucking over valve is beneficial to most of the tech companies pushing AI.
>>730030972This
ram prices going up is good for valve...
>>730032109You are engaged in giga cope territory. The only reason valve didn't announce prices already is they are concerned about ram prices and are having to raise their own. There isn't a single ram manufacturer who is offering contracts longer than 1 year.
>>730029859 They’ll “die” until Gabe gets bored again and reignites the damn thing. Steam Machines are like Valve’s recurring side quest-they’re never the main story, but they keep popping up every few years with slightly better armor and the same charisma stat.
just give me the controller already
>>730021135>1000W psu>for 5090I have that combo and it's fine? My total system wattage (with a bunch of drive) assuming everything at max load is like 890W. The official recommendation is only 850W.>>730021210>Seems fine if I'm not overclocking?Unless it's a no-name QC reject PSU it's fine even if you're overclocking.
reminder that 70% of steam users have worse specs than the steam machine
>>730028958they don't have any built-up stocks though. if they had already finished negotiating their supply contracts then they would have released the price. but they didn't.
>>730037135Those statistics are poisoned from third worlders on ancient laptops, almost no one has a worse machine than the shitcube
It's been a while, I hope you're all doing well.
>>730038942Fucking brat
>>730038942>>730039410Fucking weaboos managed to ruin Steam Machine too
>>730037135Equal or worse, and thats fudging some pretty big numbers
>>730014395the cuckcube makes zero sense and i'll go to my grave thinking it. number 1, they don't intend to make it cheaper than you buying your own parts, so right there, it's totally useless. number 2, since it's not gonna be cheaper, they aren't going to do anything different than what everyone else are already doing. why buy the cuckcube, when i can just buy a new premade dell rig for probably less? the cuckcube has literally only two reasons for existing, being cheaper than everyone else, and having linux run flawlessly out of the box.
>>730040386
>>730017176>new hires are all arabs jeets and blacksi remember he once said that only 1 percent of people could work at valve?
>>730019853>too limiting for PC enthusiasts>comes with Linux it may just be steam os but it's filling a huge void in the "PCs that don't come with windows OS and aren't Apple OS" market. even normies are sick of windows 11 bro and anyone actually in the apple ecosystem would probably get this thing just for gaming compatibility out of sheer spite towards windows. It'll do fine on the market
im gonna save up for the steam box via steam drops ill be able to afford one in 10 years
>>730026221>>>/r/eddit
>>730014395That or waiting a few years to release it like other companies
>>730026590i must COOM
>>730037135that 70% is their audience then
>>730014395announced at the absolute worst possible time. this sucks, i wanted it to take off. hopefully they still go ahead with the controller
>>730015372>>730015836>>730015921>>730016885It doesn't matter the price of ddr4 ram is almost as high as ddr5 anyway
>>730042285yeah
>>730014395Now that the dust has settled, what was inside it?
>>730047918>Peter Molyneux suggested there may be more to the game than it would seem: "There is something we haven't told everybody about when you play the cube. When you play the cube you're also doing something else. You don't realise you're doing it. [...] You're not just doing things in the cube. You don't realise it but you're doing something in something else as well at the same time."What did he mean by this?
>>730030931It's either that or the damn thing just gets delayed. Valve isn't selling the steam machine at loss, so it would make more sense to just shelve it until things stabilize.
>>730014395It was bound to happen. With amd you lose. It can't even use the latest Gen of fsr and it has an apu
>>730015782Don't you have a gaming pc? It is just a steam deck in console form
>>730017285Nigger you just need a desk... And a 27 inch screen. You can even put them on the floor
>>730021318Anon... If they put a 1 tb nvme in it the nvme itself costs close to 109 usd (cheapest crucial). 16 gig soldered DDR5 costs like 99 usd to the fab to make. Then you add the middle man, putting it in the mobo... I didn't even factor the cpu in it. You're looking at a 799 usd at least
>>730022583Good deal but I would change the gpu and the case after
>>730026801Uuuuuh ps5 pro exists?
>>730042285>He does the "bro" unironicallyI get it windows sucks blah blah blah but if it costs over a grand for sub par hardware in the year of our lord 2026 then people won't fucking buy it. People may be sick of windows but they sure as shit ain't moving to Linux you retard.
>>730029052Kek my gaming laptop shits on the steam machine and I got it for 1K last year...
>>730029514Anon pc pre-built sellers literally cancel 3K usd orders, relist the same pc 800 usd higher.... Retailers limit rtx 5000 cards to one per consumer in Germany... Nobody has stock nor supply
>>730040386I'm not a weaboo, I'm a shapefucker. I want to have sex with this cube.
They’re gonna>Raisu the pliceOn it because of “muh ddr we had nothing to do with inflating of course”
>>730030591Anon the market is fucking crazy for the last 3-4 months. So much so Nvidia said fuck it, gaming doesn't bring shit. One database for Ai brings more revenue than 100.000 individual consumers buying gamer cards. There won't be rtx 6000
>>730030972Lol believe me after seeing the ram prices they would just resell the Sodimms and make more revenue than steam machine can bring.
>>730037135Steam survey doesn't mean shit, intel HD graphics is still the most used gpu as people are retarded and don't disable their igpu. Third worlders who have a bit of money abuse steam as regional pricing means cheap games and they can buy 1 dollar keys from Russian websites
>>730042285You can install whatever os you want on your desktop, laptop... All you need is the iso of the os and a USB stick...
>>730021863As a half-life fan I have nothing but contempt for valve. Legit hope their offices catch fire from gaben toasting his hot pockets in his carpeted office full of trash.
It needs to be $499 USD or it's gonna flop.
>>730038942>>730039410forced meme
>>730051392Never. They would rather sell every single Sodimm they have in stock then sell it at a huge loss
>>730014395no idea how steam machine will make any sense in current marketshit will cost 1k$ + for old smartphone specs, soon will be smarter to just plug in your smartphone to your tv
>>730048224was supposed to be tied in with godus... but turns out an idea guy cant make game by himself and needs a good dev team
>>730052423>shit will cost 1k$ + for old smartphone specs, soon will be smarter to just plug in your smartphone to your tvNo smartphone is even close to the performance of the RX 7600
>components will be so expensive that they'll need to sell at $1K to make back the cost!>besides, it'll be worse than this prebuilt selling for $500!make those two things make sense together, fags
>>730053073Redmagic can run Skyrim 4K in 60 fps
>>730053351Unlike valve pre-built companies have enough warehouses to store their components that were bought months and years ago. Ps for 1K you can get pretty good deals with 16 gig DDR5 and an 8 core ryzen 7, an rtx 5070 included too. Not to mention minimum 1 tb nvme and proper upgradibility. Steam machine would make a lot of sense last year but as usual they are too little too late
>>730053440A gtx 970 can run Skyrim at 4k 60
>>730053614And? Redmagic flagship can also run hogwarts legacy. And their cheapest model costs like 799 usd
>>730053590Is that why ASUS will raise the price of their ROG Allys while Valve will sell the Steam Machine for the price it was always going to be, $600-$700?
>>730053440Nigga a 760M integrated GPU on the lowest-tier of AMD APUs can run Skyrim at 4k60
>>730050753There needs to be a screen attachment so you can put an animated MSGK face on it
>>730053698So can the nearly 13 year old gtx 970, just say you don't understand hardware because you're a console nigger.
>>730053780Where did they say it will be 600-700 usd? In a week or two we will see and it will be 899 usd minimum for the base model without sd card. I will come back when they announce it and I will find you. Literal chink mini pcs with 6 core ryzens sell for 399 usd, how the fuck can steam sell a DDR5 rig for that cheap?
>>730054029Fucking moron I literally have a ryzen 9 rig with an rtx 4080. I am simply saying that steam machine will not be competent nor cheap
>>730054162>without sd cardQuit while you're ahead, kid
>>730054162They said it'll be competitive to similar PC with those specs, but it will be more affordable than them and other mini PCs.
>>730054239Owning a computer doesn't mean you know shit about anything faggot lmao, cope harder you dumb fag. Lmao.
>>730054260You were saying? Yes it has an nvme but they will put the cheapest 256 gig in it to cut costs and force you to change it or add micro sd
>>730054840Neither of them come with a fucking memory card in them so it was pointless for you to mention
>>730054840>phone posterDumb faggot
>>730054920CANT YOU READ YOU FUCKING MORON? THEY WILL PUT A CHEAPER NVME IN IT AND FORCE YOU TO GO MICRO SD ROUTE, JUST LIKE NINTENDO SHITCH. YOU WILL NOT BE GETTING A 5TH GEN 512 GB NVME SSD FOR 599 USD
>>730055164>the base model without sd cardNone of them ship with memory cards.
>>730014395VALVE WHERE THE FUCK IS MY STEAM PHONE
Soooo if I'm fine with 1080p, what mini PC should I look at? I just want something to play in my couch
>RAM shortages$1000
>>730056957Get a proper gaming laptop with an rtx gpu and use an hdmi cable. Mini pcs do not come close to gaming laptop performance
>>730057302>Mini pcs do not come close to gaming laptop performanceMany of them have the exact same hardware
>>730057389No, many mini pcs use ryzen cpus with embedded integrated apus. You can get good gaming laptops second hand and much cheaper and more competent than steam machine (which is a mini pc in itself with a soldered gpu and a soldered cpu, steam deck in a console form)
Hear me out. Since home PCs are clearly going away over the next decade here's what should happen. Gabe should buy fabs and Valve produce everything start to finish themselves. it won't happen immediately, but in 5-10 years when nobody can get ram or graphics cards anymore, and the other major players are all trying to push streaming games to eat up otherwise wasted time on their AI servers, Valve can stay in the market on (at that point) out of date nodes but letting people have local hardware.If they can get enough people to adopt them over the streaming option it will force devs to put an iota of effort into optimizing games to run on Steams slightly out of date hardware.
>shitty console>shitty console with steam logo
>>730057659He is too fucking lazy to do all that. He can't even count to 3
>>730057574Minisforum and a handful of other companies have numerous SKUs with discrete GPUs, you dumb faggot kid. As I said, many have the exact hardware laptops have.
>>730014395It would be supported for one or two years then abandoned anyway, like all other Valve projects.
>>730057659TSMC is the only company to ever successfully run an independent foundry business. Valve does not have the money to break into this market, not to mention no process IP, and a million other reasons why you're dumb
>>730057574You can get a laptop with a 4060 for like $800 if you look hard enough on black friday/boxing day. Steam machine is a fucking meme and you are paying a markup on the Valve brand.
>>730058202Okay go buy it then. Don't come crying in a year saying the chips fried themselves in that tiny ass box
>>730058453They use the literal same cooler setups that laptops do lmao
I can not believe some of you retards thought Half-Life 3 was going to come out.
>730015867>fetch
I can't wait to get one of these things. If the coordinated anti-shill campaign is anything to go by, it'll be ludokino. Just bought a ton of games on sale to play on it.
>>730059430He buys games.... Oh no no noNigger what aars you doing? Every single single player game is free to download online
>>730014395hasn't it literally just been like one week or two since they announced it? give it some time.
>>730058785It is coming out though, all the leaks fit with how Valve releases games. They'll announce it when the Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and Steam Frame are close to launch, verified for Steam Deck, Steam Machine, and Steam Frame.
>>730059430Who do you think is paying for the anti-shill campaigns against Valve, Sony or Microsoft, I'm leaning more towards Microsoft due to those shitheads also making a mini pc next year and this is making them look bad.
>>730060739Probably Microsoft. They've been trying to extract more money from gamers for decades, and Valve has gotten in the way pretty much every attempt.
>>730027720I was playing sf6 on steam controller using left trackpad for motions and right pad for 4 buttons + face buttons. Takes some getting used to but felt pretty decent in the end. Left thumb would get sore from doing half circles or dp's after half an hour or so but i think it'd be similar with an analog stick.Rear buttons are great for DI or grab macros.Swapped to a fight stick and while my inputs have gotten better i still am not as fast with the reactions to DI because lack of easy button.
>>730061146I really do hate Microsoft and Sony. Microsoft keeps making anti-Valve threads while Sony keeps making anti-Nintendo threads. Are these two bastards working together or something?
>>730060739>>730062475Look at what happened with acti-blizz just before the microsoft purchase. tons of smear over the tiddy milk and evil management. Then it shut up real quick after the acquisition
>>730029052what the fuck is this
>>730014395I think the RAM/GPU price hikes killed it, thanks AI sloppah
>people calling out my shilling? must be anti shill shills
>>730062809lesbian and transbian in generic Live Laugh Love american home
It's not going to cost more than 500
>>730014582XFL was successful the first time but blocked by NFL2nd time was also a success but rona killed it
>>730063097Just the RAM costs $500 now
The cope and seethe will be unbelievable when the price/performance is good, and it launches with HL3
>>730029052Where price?
>>730062717Microsoft is scummy as hell. Seeing the Xbox die has given me so much satisfaction it's unbelievable.
>>730063447It'll be a surprise in your bank account
>>730060739People talk shit about Sony, Nintendo, and companies all the time, but the moment Valve gets shit in its anti-shill campaign being funded. You guys are a joke.
>>730064240Nobody was screaming about how those consoles were too expensive before a price announcement though. I'm can read what's being posted, retard-kun.
>>730064240Anti-Valve and anti-Nintendo shill campaigns are actually paid for. The retards in the industry love getting heavily paid by Sony and Microsoft and getting PlayStation and Xbox crap free so they shit on the companies that are smaller and would actually help the game industry because they want it to go to shit. Sony and Microsoft releases the same crap while eating up the industry and forcing everything into AAA slop.
>>730064468Most people on this board think PS5 is too expensive.
>>730064537This is made-up delusion with no actual evidence.
>>730014395the price will be announced the day after the AI bubble bursts
The Steamcube owes me sex and even if I have to pick up a stripped cube I'll do so because it'll be the best sex toy of the decade.
>>730064725You're getting paid, aren't you?
>>730029821>>waaaah I don't want lights which I can just turn offi had ram before which had RGB lights that you couldnt remove and if was only possible to turn them off via software that only ran on windows
>>730054840>>730055164>null reading comprehensionThis is bait, no one can be this dumb.
>>730014395i need one, buying one as soon as they come outmy pc is like 6 years old now and there's been barely any good games the last few years so why the fuck would i build an expensive pc just to keep playing old games
why doesn't it have a companion cube skin for me to coom onto
>>730066962yeah I'm gonna go for it too. never got a Steam Deck because I would never really use it as a handheld. but this is nice getting rid of the screen/battery/controller while being more powerful.my only concern is getting annoyed with lack of compatibility in Linux, but you could always install Windows on it I suppose.
>>730038942>>730039410>>730041968I Dont need it, I managed to build a black rectangle gaming pc just as ram-flation started, but... >>730027496 those eyes.I'm being psyop'ed into buying a ssf pc that at best I'll just use as an emulation/stream box...
>>730068585>never got a Steam Deck because I would never really use it as a handheldsame, don't need a handheld if i already have a pc in my room and i just have 0 interest playing vidya outside
>>730062809valve is cooked
>>730015921>RTX 5090 at 1080pThey completely removed the GPU as bottleneck here. This won't be the case for the Steam Machine, the GPU will likely be the bottleneck there.
>>730014395You’re retarded if you buy this shitcube
>>730037912>they don't have any built-up stocks thoughyou are genuinely retarded
Linus predicted $699is he wrong?
>>730075732That is basically the minimum price it could ever be, but the realities of the hardware market since they were teasing it means there's no fucking way they're coming in at it.
>>730077762It would be hard not to lowball anything less than bleeding edge as such a prolific tech reviewer.
>>730015682Why didn't you just use your desktop while connected to the TV?
>>7300777621000 starting MINIMUM nowDOA just like the Frame which they wanted priced lower than Index
>>730016885>between 25-30%So I get 25-30% more fps?
>that will be $1000 plus tip>please understand market fluctuations eheheit would have been at least $800 to prevent competing and cannibilizing steam deck sales but now with ramageddon that would be a generous price
>>730078132It'll probably $700, it'll be more expensive than the Steam Deck and the next step.
>>730078103In practice, it would only really be noticeable if you were running a game, then alt-tabbed and opened up a bunch of other programs. Then kept alt-tabbing between them regularly. The process of switching between programs would be faster and the programs themselves would be less stuttery. The impact of RAM on games is pretty minimal until you start trying to run 40 other programs in the background. RAM is important for overall system efficiency but is not something you need to prioritize for game performance. e.g., even if you only had 8gb of RAM (like the GabeBox), it would still be okay as long as you kept your system running cleanly with minimal bloat and background processes. SteamOS is unbloated and streamlined specifically for this reason, and it's what allows us to ignore the fact that the GabeBox only has 8gb of RAM.
>>730050908how bad will the crash be when the revenue for ai won’t be as big as people think and the startups that took loans for this shit can’t pay it
>>730078647The problem is the crash is not going to free up resources for home gamers. The problem isn't the companies using our RAM. It's them using the factories to make RAM specific for their uses. RAM that isn't going to fit in a home PC.So the factories will have to be reconfigured back to what they were before for normal RAM stick production which could take years. They still haven't even decided on an industry standard for RAM dedicated solely to AI use. It's one of the legs of the beast that keeps investing in each other with no clear path to profit. They're just hoping it works out in the future.What I will say is China is going to continue to pull far ahead of the west in this department since they've actually been preparing infrastructure for this shitshow for years while the West has been too busy trying to replace McDonald's cashiers with AI instead of building up the energy grid. Instead the west is going backwards, shutting down every energy generator that doesn't have a wind turbine in it.
>>730078910I know what’s going on but there is no chance that there will not be a huge economic fallout when this collapses
>>730079105It will be isolated from normal people. Heavy investors will obviously get their asses kicked. But what we're experiencing right now with shortages is the worst we're going to feel. And when it's all over, we'll have cheaper electric bills because they will eventually build that up even though we won't need it once the bubble pops.
>>730050753Cute, I want the Kerfus faceplate.
>>730050595apples and bowling balls. Yeah, they'll cancel orders for consumers if prices spike overnight like that. There's no contract with a consumer. We're talking business contracts here, totally different beast.Now, that's not to say I know what valve's contracts look like, but suppliers aren't just going to up and cancel orders on valve if they're contractually obligated and can face legal action if they don't.
>>730014395They're waiting until tax season.
>>730014395Is this shit really PS5 tier performance? Not even PS5 Pro?
>>730014395It was already on shaky waters before the RAM shortages, now it's practically no chance it will sell at anything less that 1000 bucks, my money is that they'll announce they'll delay it for a couple years until the market stabilizes (and hopefully the AI bubble bursts)
>>730014395don't carewhere's frame
>>730014395Wait for God's sake.
>>7300826068 gig gddr6 soldered vram. So about a gtx 1660 super
>>730048874yeah, but my boomer dad who can't open up a png wants to play pc exclusives on a console-like device
>>730086138Get him a Ps 5 pro. At least you won't have to wait till Q3 2026. Even if they announce it tomorrow the deliveries will take few months
>>730014395game awards just tweeted out it's coming 2026 to stop the saars spreading more rumors about it like you're trying to do you disgusting brown fuck.
>>730086138Your dad sounds based, don't listen to the indian saying you should get a ps5, I have one and it was the biggest waste of money I have ever has the displeasure of owning. I am getting ready to sell it in fact, pic related.
>>730087206>hashad*
>>730014395it's a premade pc, I dunno why you guys care. there are loads of those already
>>730087206But that's so stupid thoug dude, what exactly don't you like about it? You're going to be losing money on all this you spent on to play what exactly on the steam machine?
>>730087206>don't listen to the indian saying you should get a ps5Console shilling is so misguided.Sure, the device itself may be half the price of a comparable PC in the current market, but the games are much more expensive, you have to pay to use your internet, etc.
>>730087206I can assure you there's nothing you're going to play on steam that you couldn't' on that.
>>730014395AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAI WONSTEAM LOST
>>730087585
>>730087206Wait few Months moron. You can sell it for the same price you bought it when ps6 gets delayed and there won't be any 5000 supers
>>730087249It's a pre-made MINI pc with no possibility of changing components except nvme drive and micro sd card. And the front mesh cover apparently kek. So it is not a real pc
>>730087642I shit you not, there was a server about ff11 not that long ago and a lot of people voted saying it being on ps5 and xbox series x would make them more interested in it. So I mean. I mean I don't care what you do at the end of the day but I advise you don't sell it.
>>730014395They should just postpone it and update to a better CPU/GPU and sell it when ddr5 prices come back to earth
>>730075732This was before ram prices went completely nuts. Also Linus is a homosexual
>>730016787>An xbox can only play xbox gamesActually not true thanks to developer mode (which granted does cost a one time $20 fee) you can run shitloads of emulators on your Xbox One/Series S/X
>>730078103No, the GPU isn't fast enough to need it.
>>730087708I highly doubt the internal components have proprietary connectors. it's just a customized pre-built gaming PC, which means you're gonna have to get a new case if you want to change any of the parts, and probably fiddle with shit if you want to put it in that different case.
>>730087816Soooo in about 3-4 years? Best case. Worst case, never
>>730014395The DRAM crisis kinda ruined everything.
>>730088042Anon it is all soldered. Mobo, cpu, ram, apu. All soldered, it's no different than a steam deck. Just console form for normies as they thought ps6 would be too expensive and they could cash in by selling the steam machine at a loss, subsidized by steam store. They weren't expecting 300% ram price increase
>>730087206People sure are emotional over you doing this. I say enjoy steam deals, free online and getting damn near every game that comes out.
>>730014395The steam frame also has 16GB of DDR5 and will also be delayed indefinitely.
Does this mean this game is dead?
>>730088123>soldered ... ramIt uses standard SO-DIMM ram, so you could shuck ram out of an old laptop if you happened to have a 32GB one for some reason that you aren't using anymore.>>730088075>>730088123>ram price increaseIf we take an optimistic reading of the market, it's only consumers that are being squozened this hard. Valve are not a consumer, they're a corporate client.
>>73008848670 players? That's pretty bad but that game is cross platform and I think has a dedicated fanbase so.
>>730088512A 16 gb DDR5 Sodimm kit costs like 249 usd... Unless they bought 100K kits in advance they will be unable to sell it for less than 799$
Valve literally only need to rebrand themselves as an AI company and then they can buy all the RAM for cheap. Easy.
No news for this long is odd. But here's what I think is happening, that boardcast was a sales picth to manufacturers and investors. They are in talks maybe?
>>730088774>unless they boughted in advanceThese things usually run on long-term contracts. Valve secured the RAM for a period of years the second they locked in the total RAM amount for this thing. The price change doesn't matter for that, Valve aren't going to pay more for RAM according to their established contracts.What is happening is that the seller of the RAM is now kvetching about how they can't supply it at the agreed upon price and cashing in the Talmudic enchantments hidden in the contract that allow them to reneg on what they agreed on already. Most likely, the delay in announcing the price is because Valve's Lawyer Jews and the RAM seller Lawyer Jews are currently engaged in a Jew-Gi-Oh battle over the contract.
gabe start your own memory factory
>>730090819more like Elon make your own credit card company so we can give the middle finger to the CC's and the banking kikes.
>>730014395gfx110x e-waste
>>730090819>Gabe just last year bought luxury yacht manufacturer for 8bllion>instead he could have bought RAM chip manufacturer for 800 million
>>730093158he didn't want to be the monopoly on RAM
>>730088774They would have certainly secured contracts for all components a while ago, long before the announcement even. The real question is how long those contracts last. Because let's say a year from now, the contract expires and they start needing to pay far more for RAM. It would be a bad look if they had to raise the price later on (see: the disaster over at xbox with their two and soon-to-be three price hikes)
>>730093158He is a fucking retard. He has no vision and no idea on how to progress. If he just stopped 5 minutes to think and stopped buying yachts he could spend the same exact money for a big stake in a semiconductor fab or something. But noooo he has to sail. Fucking fat faggot
>>730093158lol yeah i don't think he cares any more I don't even think he's spearheading these products
>>730093158quintessential boomer who got his and leaves nothing for the future
>>730014526They cancelled Half Life 3 at the game awards and delayed the price release, because RAM prices went 3x in a month.Valve is cursed when it comes to market disruptions upon hardware release, every time they get fucked.
>>730093158probably because the ram "shortage" is a racket of bandit manufacturers colluding together. what would gaben achieve other than getting himself assassinated by forces far more powerful than himself?
>>730095217The VRAM on GPUs is increasing in price too, the Steam Machine launched at literally the worst possible time. Even during Covid would have been better.
>>730093158>why didnt gave see the futureretard
>>730095254How come only consumer RAM chips got out of hand and not industrial and manufacturing chips with AI and Data Centers actually use?!Are you really telling me AI centers are using Corsair Vengeance 64GB RGB DDR5 kits in their centers? Instead of the industrial ones?! https://www.directindustry.com/industrial-manufacturer/memory-chip-77332.htmlYou see something just doesn't add up.
>>730095643Stop noticing things and embrace the cloud computing future, go... I mean, chud!
>>730095643>How come only consumer RAM chips got out of hand and not industrial and manufacturing chips with AI and Data Centers actually use?!lol they all use the same silicon, just one gets blinged out for goyim.
>>730014526They planned its flop? Wow valve is genius
>>730095643It all comes to wafer. They all use the same wafer but the pcb and vram config is different. So when open Ai buys 40% of the entire wafer supply for 2026 there is less wafer to be turned into consumer ram. Now they are trying to build new fabs but first yields are expected at 2027 earliest (hence there are listings that arrive on August 2027 on Amazon)
>>730014395I actually wanted to buy one of these to replace my ancient toaster. Guess I'll be stuck with it for a while longer.
>>730095643anon, all those rams use the same chips and they stop selling the chips to the consumer ram makers
>>730096214There are proper pre-built for 1K usd or a tiny bit more with 8 core ryzen and an rtx 5070... It will shit on steam machine and you can change every single component after, unlike steam machine that is soldered gpu and cpu
>>730095112>leaves nothing for the futureThe yacht manufacturer he bought makes research and medical vessels. He's unironically one of the only living Patricians (rich people who invest their wealth into the common good).
>>730014395It'll get a release date alongside Half-Life 3.
>>730015682Why did you hate it so much?>>730031537Retard
>>730096439>Medical vesselsWhy do I imagine scenarios where questionable medical practices get obfuscated by the lawlessness of the high seas?
>>730096439It's a business that makes money, has he done anything where he doesn't profit massively
>>730096670>Why do I imagineEnsouled individual.>scenarios where questionable medical practices get obfuscated by the lawlessness of the high seaskino>tfw you weren't chosen for the first batch of test subjects for Gabe's brain-computer interface
>>730031621If Trump could breach international "contracts" what makes you think a billion dollar companies or two can't?
>>730097134The fact that no one will take trump to court over it
>>730095217Not so much cursed as having a grim coalition of competitors colluding against them. I don't care much though, I barely game anymore anyway
>>730093158Pretty sure a RAM chip manufacturer is worth a lot more than that, aren't there only like 3 companies doing that?
>>730097779Theres like 40 of them.
>>730098293No, not 40 manufacturer. They are only the rebranders, they take the modules and slap it on pcb and put their own name on it. Consumer Ram modules are only produced by 3 (now 2 that crucial exited the market) companies. Sk hynix and Samsung.
>>730098293No, there's not. It's like saying there's 40 GPU makers, most of those companies just take the chips from somebody else and tweak them/change housing. RAM is kind of the same, the chips themselves (the DRAM modules) are only made by very few, most just stick them onto stuff rather than making them
>>730014518but enough about the ps5
>>730098293retard
>>730096996They will be thrown overboard, and only one will survive. The goal of this movie-game is to retrace your steps back to Gabe's lair. (you have to fight his Xen form)
They can just make more RAM, it's not like there's some mineral they need or it
>>730098910Foundries can only process so many wafers per month. The issue is their total capacity is already bought up.
>>730090675kek
>>730014582valve doesnt care if their hardware succeeds. the steamdeck was actually a massive, huge success.rog ally, ally x, lenovo legion go, msi claw. millions of dollars in research, development, manufacturing, theres now a bunch of steamdeck competitors that have hardware much better then the steamdeckwhats the first thing everyone does with these devices. install steam, a direct storefront that goes straight to valves bank accounts. they could give zero flying fucks if the steam deck flopped overnight, everyone else did the work of making a steam deck 2 and gleefully put steam right on it asap
as long as they still release a steamOS image that's not tailored to the deck's hardware idgafI can't wait to move on from windows forever, since I only use it for steam anyways
>>730021110Not taking a loss means it will cost what parts are in it genius.
>>730102476Anon you can just install bazzite on your pc you know that right? If steam is all you do
bump
>>730014395why cancel it when you can ask 3k per steam machine and Steamies would eat it up
>>730062809Mary and Lilith
>>730103828kek based because it'll bomb
>>730103102I can also install any other tranny distro and hope most steam games work, but with steamOS there's at least some guarantee that the games in protondb will work as noted there, and if not then it's valve's job to fix it instead of depending on some chucklefuck maintainer from some random distro
>>730107475Bazzite is literally custom built for steam os, it's an exact replica of steam deck os and comes with steam pre installed normally
>>730102476Dude, there is nothing special about SteamOS
>>730107475valve isn't going to do shit, dude. if it works on steam os it's gonna work on any distro. there is nothing special about steam os other than valve personally holds back updates themselves
>>730108880there is, it's not windows 11
>>730111190BAZZITE YOU POOR MOTHER FUCKER. EVEN STEAM OS IS BUILT ON ARCH LINUX. IT IS LITERALLY THE SAME THING
>>730111372Bazzite is Fedora.
>>730111938It is still Linux, that's why I said literally the same thing.
>>730100036Then why can't they fucking release it already?!
>>730095217Valve doesn't give a shit about the Fag Awards
>>730112228Isn't Bazzite immutable? I'd prefer a normal system. I'm not afraid of a package manager.
>>730020739No, that's worth 3k.
>>730111372>BAZZITEabandonware
>>730115531How do you figure when the MRSP for a 5090 is 2k
>>730115923The SM won't be close to a 5090
>>730116009What?
>>730115923What game are you going to play 4K with it? MH:Wilds?!
>thirdies SEA/East Europe/South America/India the biggest shitposters of VALVE DOES NOTHING AND WINS spam>third world pirat_nation spammed this>valve vegans spammed thisSteam Machine loses before it even re-releases a second time due to crippling PC market condition like RAM manufacturers Crucial leaves the market, Corsair does not even give a shit about RAM consumer orders, and GPU companies turn into AI corporations. NVIDIA's market is >90% AI datacenters. Guess another 10 more years of PCMR posting from GTX 460 3.5GB VRAM on /v/ and /g/ from the third world.
>>730116049It has a semi custom AMD
"Valve does nothing and wins" poster living like this from South America/India/Southeast Asia/Eastern Europe
>>730116078I just wanna future proof my PC in case prices skyrocket and never come down
>>730116260Then pay 5K for it, but do remember Nvidia is planning $100 Drive Subscription for their GPUs so have fun for being future proof!!
>Steam Machine will be affordable>Valve does nothing and winsKEKAROOOOOOOOO
>>730116343That would only be for new GPUs
>>730116390Which is the new GPUs?!
>>730116349SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THAT CARDDO NOT REDEEM
>PC gaming high costs are so astronomical that Gabe and his 5 yachts might not ship their latest cult status icon >Steam Machine just loses a second time before being releasedDevastating news for the biggest supporters of Valve on /v/ from South America, India, Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe.
>>730116445I mean if I buy a 5090 now I'm set for 5 years at least until I have to worry about getting a new one
>>730116510Yes and 5000 series will be targeted by the driver subscriptions!! Have fun!!
>The guy shilling subscription prices unironicallyYou know those get jacked up in price almost monthly, right? Especially in the case of astronomically extreme demand like what is going on with these NVidia/RTX Drives. I really hope you're not a shill for these companies, that would be pretty freaking sad.
>>730116252No it doesn't the Steam cube uses a standard mobile RX 7600. You aren't even talking about the same thing as that anon either.
>>730116926ESL.
>>730117994Sorry you couldn't understand my post Indian.
>>730042285what? it's not about the OS, the OS can be changed in any machine.
>New hardware >In 2026 It's DoA. You didn't need it anyway.
>>730117796Well I wrote SM as in steam machine so why did he reply to me
>>730114376Bazzite and SteamOS are both immutable, yes.
>>730119221What is Bazzite anyway? I got shilled it awhile ago, is it better than SteamOS?
>>730119346It's Fedora, but immutable and optimized for games (alongside regular desktop use).SteamOS is Arch, but immutable and optimized for games (but isn't really intended to be a desktop replacement). It's not supported on many devices (pic related), but there's nothing stopping you from installing it and trying it out.
Who cares about the box, where's my fucking Steam Frame GabeN?
>>730116496This is missing hacked consoles like the PS2 or Wii, those are poorfag staples.
>>730121717nobody cares
>>730123859Everyone cares.
