*ruins 2d platformers forever*
l2p
>>730297067is this a Super Meat Boy seethe thread or something?
is that sonic?
>>730297067>modern platformersThat's how it always was
>>730297067Here's a platformer that should be more up to your speed OP, enjoy.
>>730297067This is literally mega man first stage vs final stage. In every single game.
Meatboyshit has always been inferior to momentum based platformers like Dustforce and N
it's just a genre that some people really like. I don't get it either but who cares. not everything has to be for you personally.
>>730297181No this is a "filtered by Cave Story" thread
>>730297067What do you want out of a platformer if not difficult platforming?
Love me some greatly designed platforming.
>>730297286SAKURAI
>>730297067the level is the same, you do the same actions on both of these
>>730297067Why do Nintendofags have a meltdown when a platformer actually requires you to do platforming instead of strolling around collecting stars/moons/some other random garbage?
>>730297943What part of >>730297460 looks like platforming to you, retard? The whole webm is just flying around troonspikes and only landing on a PLATFORM for 1 second at the end.
>>730297943Some people, actually many people, resent being challenged in any way. They love to think of themselves as skilled, intelligent and talented but the instant they encounter an obstacle that they can't beat and experience their ego being harmed and their self-perception of a skilled person be challenged, they go into a meltdown.
>>730298030
>>730298243I wish I enjoyed Celeste more, shame all its challenges seem to be centered around doing huge amounts of content without dying once. Consistency stuff is my bane.Cool webms though.
>>730297067That's Meatboy
>>730298605Post one meat boy level from the main game that looks like that.
>>730297067teeworlds ddrace do be like this
>>730298030>troonspikesah is that what this genre is called?
>>730297460That looks gay as fuck. Glad I dropped this game.
>>730301840I think this is a good name, it's platforming that only speedrunning troons love.
>>730297191he just stole a giant chili dog from eggman's stash
>>730298030>What part of >>730297460 looks like platforming to you, retard?Okay by your logic, GTA, Portal, and Minecraft are platformers because you jump onto platforms.>troonspikes Conservatives being retarded as always.
>>730297286That pit in the middle is bullshit, we need to add a casual-friendly difficulty that removes it to appeal to a wider audience.
>>730297410n++ is okay until you get to all the physics-based platforming (90% of the game)Meatboy is just about figuring out your hitbox and how much shit you can get away with while being as fast as possible, it's the epitome of autism platformers
>>730297643Platforming can be difficult without doing that horseshitI like Sonic games, you're fighting your own desire to go fast more than you are the level design. Levels are extremely easy if you take them slow, but the entire point is not to do that. Ditto for stuff like Pizza Tower
>>730298243What I can't stand about Celeste is the slow as fuck grabbing mechanic, how much the game expects you to use it, and how fucking ugly the game looks
>>730303529>the slow as fuck grabbing mechanicIt's not slow and you'll learn how insane it is sooner or later
>>730301840>troonspikesOkay that's good I'm picking that up.
just download "i wanna maker" and skip out on most of these low effort indies.
I think when a game has a name like>Mario LAND>Mario WORLDa certain part of it has to come from the charm of some designed new world, sure the game is still left to right platforming, but there has to be some additional aspects that make the game enjoyable beyond whatever skill execution exists >>730298243>>730297460I don't care how hard it is, or how impressive you are by doing it. what is EVER the point of me getting good at a guy which is nothing but flat gradient backgrounds and spikes. Why would I EVER waste hours playing a game like this?Really what is the point of playing celeste if I am not trans? Can someone actually explain that?
>>730303529>how fucking ugly the game looksthe downsides of the game being designed by and for troons
>>730303913I play the game for the videogame, I don't care about the story. I know it's hard to understand for a /v/irgin who doesn't actually play games.
I'm by no means a platformer aficionado but I just want to say I thoroughly enjoyed Wario Land 2 as a kid
>>730297643I don't like how they overcompensate for a lack of a life system by segmenting levels into bite size challenges you're expected to just try over and over and over again.
>>730297067So what year would you say separates modern from retro?
>>730297191>>730302981Sometimes this place is alright.
>>730303739It even makes sense in a meta fashion. The troon making games in this style is aware they're barely a millimeter away from crashing out and an heroing every single moment, requiring remarkable gymnastics to find the single space they can safely stand on before being forced to do it all again.
>>730303956>I play the game for the videogameDefinition of a game>An activity providing entertainment or amusement; a pastime.Definition of a video>A sequence of images processed electronically into an analog or digital format and displayed on a screen with sufficient rapidity as to create the illusion of motion and continuityif the sequence of images are inchorent or bad, and the amusement is summated to just be overcoming the set challenege, its a bad video gameMaybe you spent so long playing crap, but I have to remind you, videogames are supposed to be good.Good controllsGood challengeGood visuals Good storiesIf a game lacks any of these, you should play a better gameBut mr Video gaymer, lets see your fighting game skills.Show me your Melee slippi rank, show me your MR in SF5 super gayman
>>730297460>>730298243>unironically posting troonestekys retard and ywnbaw
>>730302981kek
>>730297067Start playing action platformers
>>730303913>I don't care how hard it is, or how impressive you are by doing itthe point is that its fucking cool and you can't do that in other platformers. this isn't even what hard celeste looks likehttps://youtu.be/q7LBU-5K7Lgand anyone who says this game doesn't look good is nuts
>>730303913>I don't care how hard it is, or how impressive you are by doing it. what is EVER the point of me getting good at a guy which is nothing but flat gradient backgrounds and spikes. Why would I EVER waste hours playing a game like this?for fun you gibbering retardovercoming challenges is funmatching a rhythm is funeven in those webms the player brought a gold strawberry to the end, meaning he beat the level without dying once
>>730297460This was actually a ton of fun and really satisfying to play
>>730304403Imagine trying to gatekeep talking about one of the best platformers of all time* just because trannies live rent free in your head.(*only talking about the base game)
>>730297067every geometry dash level in a nutshell
Which way western man, tranny mental illness simulator or Christian man's masterpiece
>>730306112HOLY HECK IS THAT A CASUAL ZANY INTERACTIVE EXPERIENCERINO
>>730304403you first newfag tourist and yawnfag
>>730297460Lame. I'd take the running sections in Ori over it any time, simple as they are.
>>730297460>>730298243This shit is just flappy birds but you can move the left as well kek
Who cares? Platformers are 90s console games. Who would play them in current year?
>Turn on video game>Enemies are standing in front of the door WOOOOOOOOOW
>>730305626KillYourSelf
>>730307007Thank you sis for enlightening us. We need to become better men but it's a tough journey.
>>730304892/v/ doesn't actually play games, let alone platformers. They hate it because they suck.
What's the Celeste alternative for straight men? The closest thing I can thing of is Super Meat Boy.I bet casuals will say that straight men don't play precision platformers
>>730308597I wanna be the guy fangames.
>>730298243>can't see the whole room before you start the platforming>but if you get hit you just go back to the start of the room and can try again infinitely>no punishment for takibg too long in a roomSo it just becomes mindless trial and error memorization. Shit design.
>>730297460Every pixelart plataformer is now about dealing with anxiety and jumping instant-kill spikes
>>730308597N++>>730308851>can't see the whole room before you start the platformingyou literally can, that's what the binoculars are for
>>730308851>can't see the whole room before you start the platformingYou can. That's what the viewfinder is for. Even this >>730297460 one has a viewfinder, I just didn't get it in the webm when I recorded it.
>>730297460This is exactly like those lifeless mario 64 romhacks where every level is just an incoherent mess of instant death quick sand. As you'd expect they're exclusively played by speedrunner trannies because who else would bother playing them? Challenge is important yes, but so is fun, what is fun about these memorization grindfests unless you have crippling autism? It's the lowest brow shit ever to both play and design. Just sit there and play the same 2 second sections over and over until you get the muscle memory, and just haphazardly throw spikes or quick sand everywhere without any consideration for a coherent looking and interesting design or palatable experience. It's a shame because the art looks decent, I can't believe they would waste it with this completely uninspired level design.
>>730313412>/v/ when they cant touch a wall
>>730297460This is just a timing memorization maze.Literally turn off your brain and do what's expected of you over and over until perfection.
>>730313412>what is fun about these memorization grindfests like [playing an instrument] unless you have crippling autism?
>>730313818all platformers are memorizers. You can just memorize the whole level and beat it easily every time. Stupid genre.
>>730313881Most true platformers give you many different ways to reach your end goal, and allow the truly good players to be extra creative with their approach.
>>730308597The End is Nigh
Show me a professional gamer getting through a game like Celeste on his first try without any prior knowledge going into it.If the best gamers in the world can't complete your game blind, it's shit design that relied on trial and error "gotcha!"s
>>730301840it is now
>>730313956So what? Memorize the optimal route, noob.
>>730314206That's the thing, those games respect the player and give them a *choice*Games like Celeste want the player to be a mindless chinkoid monkey and just put square peg in square hole as efficiently as possible
>>730314093If anyone can make it through your game without dying on their first try without any prior knowledge then it's literally a baby tier game. Do you think "pro gamers" have 2 millisecond reaction times? They're pros because they pour tens of thousands of hours into mastering one game.
>>730297460Kino. Love me sum good vidya
>>730303165no you dont get it i need to put my favorite buzzword at the beginning or end of everything thats how you know i dont like it
>>730314496Precision platformers respect the player too. They just respect the player's ability to puzzle solve, memorize, and complete the jump sequence. Sounds like that's beyond you though.
>>730297181celeste
>>730314496>>730313956>Celeste doesn't have any alternate methods of beating levelslollmao
>>730297460>Game's villain is literally the voices in the devs head telling them they're a man. Man I really miss when /v/ speculated it was a game about getting an interacial fetus aborted.
>>730303501sonic has horrible platforming
>>730314940Despite what Matt might say, Celeste has nothing to do with transgenderism. Not even the DLC.
I was skeptical but the demo was a lot of fun
>>730314552Sounds like a cope from someone who lacks natural talent
>>730314893You gonna prove me wrong or just laugh?And don't post some shit like an intentional alternate route
>>730313823>being able to create music and express yourself creatively vs complete some CBT game somebody else madeLike I said, crippling autism is necessary and only someone with crippling autism would somehow compare playing an instrument to playing a game.
>>730297460This just looks like dustforce for gay people
>>730315190Does this scare you?
>>730297067>>730297191That route is a Smiling Friends character silhouette
>>730315017No one believes this at all. Celest was always a paper thin metaphor for some contrived liberal bullshit which is why /v/ started the abortion clinic meme when it released.The tranny shit was the best reveal ever because everyone was vindicated.The shadow girl went from a woman's baby mania Versus girlboss ideals to a man struggling to overcome reality and believe he's a woman.Retroactively, the ginger is a man.
>>730297460I bought this cause YouTubers said this was a fun indie game, not cause of the trans bullshit added later.
>>730315446>Celest was always a paper thin metaphor for some contrived liberal bullshit which is why /v/ started the abortion clinic meme when it released.That was a meme because shitposters had no teeth to actually shitpost with, which you're so eager to demonstrate here.
>>730315306hard to believe someone who was deaf his whole life was able to make jesus music, clearly a modern day miracle if I've ever seen one
>>730315556>Had no teethThis game came out around the time Zoe Quinn's bullshit was still fresh. Of course a game with a not so subtle "conquer your depression" theme was going to be lambasted.It was a game with tumblr art, of a girl doing some random mundane shit like climbing a mountain yet is beset upon by a smug evil half? Oh and there is a random negro man with a 2010's white hipster haircut and ear gauges there?It had all the fixings, just didn't have a clear center piece until the Dev revealed his trannyism.Then the pieces fell into place.
>>730315306I just explained my thoughts on music so why would you ask that?
>>730298169>Some people, actually many people, resent being challenged in any way.correct.>They love to think of themselves as skilledprojection. people who dislike "skill platformers" and other "skill genres" like soulslikes or arena FPS don't think in these terms at all. this obsession with skill is yours, not theirs. casuals don't suffer grievous narcissistic injuries every time they touch a "skill game", they simply don't have fun because they aren't looking to retry the same task many times to learn it. that is not what they came for, so when they find out it's the main course of the meal they leave.these games are niche because they over time had to (?) cater to a niche (genre fans like you) and now all they offer is "muh challenge", and not enough else. catering to a niche has made them impossible to enjoy for newcomers. not because newcomers can't get good but because statistically most newcomers simply aren't looking to git gud, period. most gamers want to experience flow state, not grind attempts. needing to repeat a portion of gameplay is annoying to casual gamers, and this includes highly experienced gamers venturing out into an unfamiliar genre. like, I'm an AFPS veteran and in FPS I will keep trying because something compels me to. it's what I like. but let me keep it real, I would never play Meatboy because I simply do not care about the idea of getting good at sidescrollers. not my thing. even though I do care about skill in MY genre(s).as genres specialize - crystalize - they become more and more repellent to everybody outside of a bubble. the fantasy of a game is important. if the fantasy (being a 2D jumping dude or a 3D shooter dude) doesn't appeal to the individual he's not going to grind out attempts.
>>730316131Because it's the way to play the song. You have to play those notes to play the song. Just like you have to jump a specific way to complete the jumps in precision platformers.This is not hard to understand.
Of course /v/ would hate games that are difficult lmao
>>730313881>all platformers are memorizers.No, in a good game you just play naturally and react to what's ahead. That's not to say enemy patterns and behavior aren't to be memorized but you're not going through the entire level on muscle memory.
>>730308597You asked this question three hours ago and for some reason no one bothered to post the correct answer.
>>730297067I actually did some of this for the harder levels in a game, but the move list was diverse enough to make it a little more interesting.
>>730316192Learning an instrument is fun because you make nice sounding noises and can expressive yourself creatively. I already said that. Does memorization in precision platformers offer that? What's your point? I'm not "scared" of precision platformers, if I wanted to play one I would inevitably develop the muscle memory required to get proficient through playing, my point is why should I waste my time doing that insteadof playing something more fun?
>>730297943Why b do sonyfags always call everyone who dislikes bad games Nintendofags?In any case the problem is that none of it is platforming it's just trial and error nonsense
>>730297067I don't get it. What is there to platforming if there's no precise platforming? I don't get it. And I don't even like platformers, I don't like it how I never feel like I'm getting better at the game no matter how much I play because I have to brute force learn each new hard room from scratch. I find that very unrewarding. But that's because I just don't like the genre at all. That's the whole genre. What is there to the platforming genre if not this? Literally what is left?
>>730317610>Learning an instrument is fun because you make nice sounding noises and can expressive yourself creatively.You're playing a song made by someone else. It's THEIR creativity, not yours. You have to play it the way they wrote it to play it. You have to follow along the sheet music.Where's the expression?
>>730304892It's weird how you lower your standards for a generic indie game.
>>730314826celeste is just super meat boy for trannies
>>730317754Learning an instrument means you can improv your own music if you feel like it. You can't improv a platforming challenge into existence.
>>730297067Konami / Ultra games did this firstbut no, keep going with your shit zoomer games
Double jump, air stalls, and air dash ruined platformers.Those mechanics are fine for combat heavy games, but platformers, these stink. I don't care if you disagree.
Okay first you're completely ignoring >make nice noisesNext, what the fuck even is your argument? Sheet music exists so that's the only way to play music? Where's the wall of spikes preventing somebody from playing a song however they want? Or making their own music? This is the most nonsensical contrived analogy ever, gouge out your eyes and neck yourself you buffoon.
>>730320374>>730317754
>>730297067What kind of absolute fucking nigger can't handle platforming?
>>730320556Games should be fun. Dying is not fun.
>>730320829Dying is fun.
What if precision platforming isn't something you enjoy or hate with any passion, but just bores you? I'm more of a fan of players needing to get creative with movement tools to create the precision themselves, so they can reach places or skip segments without the game explicitly telling them. Maybe not all, but just about every precision platformer I've seen have the answer laid out for the player, and they grind it out to become consistent. No room for creativity or thinking on the player's part, no meta about what the best route is to get through a platforming sequence, it's snuffed out from the start.Players like to feel like they can cheat the game even if the designers likely accounted for players being able to take advantage of movement tools in ways the game didn't mention. There's definitely a satisfaction to being stubborn and practicing until you can do something no one else thought to do, or was thought impossible. Like those guys that broke through Hyrule's force field to skip a huge chunk of the game in Wind Waker. It's what made Mario Maker 2 courses fun, because I'd find routes that I was pretty sure amateur designers didn't account for. Me and this one guy went back and forth and took the record for one NSMB style course from 46 seconds all the way down to 27 (best I could do was 29).
Precision platforming to this degree just turns into rote memorisation and that isn't fun
>>730297067If the jumps can barely be made, then the spikes are purely cosmetic. Any jump that would make it by default wouldn't hit the spikes.I Wanna Be the Guy actually made a joke about this with the spike room almost 20 years ago.
>>730297460the E33 of platformers
>>730297460>>730298243Celeste mentioned! vive la trans!
>>730305015If you're life has devolved where fun is just grinding skill execution. I'm sorry. Try to bring joy back into your fun. You have fried your brain and now rely on the most concentrated version of poison
>>730321470>What if precision platforming isn't something you enjoy or hate with any passion, but just bores you?Accept it's not your genre and play something you like
Platformers are rage games now.You can't make something that's just fun, where you can fail but the game isn't trying to throw cheap shit at you to force you to fail. It has to make you angry so streamers can squeeze 2-10 hours out of talking over it while reacting to bullshit setbacks.
>>730320374There's a reason why every shitty music player loves jazz. Music is an act of creation, and for you to think playing an instrument starts and stops at playing sheet music, or someone else's music just shows everyone you are an autist. No learning an instrument is not the same as getting good in a singular video game.If your game is "fun" because it makes you learn, and that's it. You simply like this fun the most because you were diligent enough to do what the game Dev wanted. You need real creative endeavors man.It's easy, go to a bar that has local bands this Friday and ask any of them what is their favourite part of playing an instrument.None will ever suggest it was memorizing hand position and pace from a YouTube video.But that is only what Celeste is. How you argue about music should show you why your ideas are bad.You completely miss the point of playing an instrument,
>>>730317754Is for >>730317754
>>730303165to be fair, the creator retconned the main protag into being a tranny self insert. But it would be more accurate to call them misgendering spikes.
>>730321550Rote memorization is everything.
Trannies LOVE the autistic, memorization-based, speedrun style gameplay. This is why Celeste was so praised and also why so many of them are Fromtroons since they also love memorizing shitty boss attack patterns.
>>730298462Luckily most of the huge rooms where you have to tightly platform and grab things at the right moment all in one go are mostly contained in the DLC. Unfortunately most of the DLC is just that. Even worse is your reward for all that is the infamous troon flag screenshot.
>>730314940>>730315017The evil side doesn't do that, which is why I think Matt's "it was always planned" is bullshit. The evil self preys on Madeline's insecurities but she just says that she's a selfish and flawed person. If Madeline was "always planned" to be trans the evil self should have said things like "You're not a woman." "Everyone knows you're a guy." "You'll be buried with your real name." "You will never pass." etc.
>>730297460Autistic tranny memorization game. Might as well be reciting pi to 50 digits.
>>730325806Badeline doesn't even say she's selfish and flawed, she says that Madeline is defeatist, and that climbing the mountain is pointless. She's not supposed to be Madeline's evil side, but her rational side. What she wants is for Madeline to go home and relax, because that's what Madeline wants too, deep down. Madeline's just here on Mt. Celeste because she's tired of wasting days away and starting projects only to never finish them, and wanted to do something outrageous to prove to herself that "Yes, I CAN do it!" Madeline reconciles with Badeline by acknowledging that "yes, climbing the mountain is dumb as fuck and I want to go home, but I still want to do it anyway, and I need to be whole to do it."Also her stated favorite hobby is getting drunk and arguing with retards online. She probably browses 4chan.
>>730324661>Trannies LOVE the autistic, memorization-based, speedrun style gameplay.See, that's how I know the "transwomen are a woman's mind trapped in a man's body" argument is bullshit. Real women wouldn't constantly bash their head over and over in a small segment until they perfectly memorized every pattern. Only a man would have that kind of mindset. When women fail a part of a game more than 5 times, they lose interest and move on to something else.
>>730298243its just so fugly
>>730321985>Try to bring joy back into your fun.
Man, I hadn't realized being good at videogames in general was for trannies now.
>>730326380>Real women wouldn't constantly bash their head over and over in a small segment until they perfectly memorized every patternIdk whenever they break up with Chads they keep bashing their heads memorizing what his segment looked like during sex
>>730326352>Badeline doesn't even say she's selfish and flawed
>>730297067>checkpoints every 3 jumpsName one precision platformer this forgiving
>>730297410Meatboy is pretty bad but I was never a huge fan of N+ either, it always felt too raw and hard to control, dustforce is the right middle ground where it's momentum based but there's a million moves layered ontop and the amount of momentum is consistent, so easy to anticipate and control.
>>730326490There's difference between being good at games and bashing your head against the wall in a Mario speedrun to shave off 0.01s of a single technique.
>>730327532love 3 (game lets you make checkpoints whenever you want)
>>730297460uh sorry, OP showed me you can draw a line through all those spikes, so I'm going to have to say that this isn't fun.
>>730297460for the record this is the very last optional challenge variant of the final level, and other levels are not covered in spikes like this
>troonspikesI hate it the moment it born. What was it? SMB or IWBTG?
>>730328589I haven't played Love 1 or 2, so I wouldn't understand the story.
>>730322140There are tons of simple, easy, and fun platformers. But you don't play them. You probably don't platformers in general. You just decide to get mad at the handful of difficult games made because you're eternal shitters, and the existence of something that you're unwilling or incapable (and it's almost certainly the latter) of becoming proficient at makes you seethe endlessly.
>>730297460Tranny
>>730297643FUN platforming. Imaginative environments, smooth movement, something that challenges you without making it feel like a goddamn chore. Come on.
>>730297067>skips you're level designNothing personel, please understand
>>730317386>playing as a jannie
>>730304120Life system adds nothing mechanically.
>>730297286HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW I COULD JUMP
>>730306112Somehow the latter is more of a lolcow.
>>730330580The death zone?
>>730330851Life system adds consequences and makes you slow down and think. You lose more progress if you lose all your lives.This works for some games and would actively hamper others.
>>730331662Surely you can name games that do both and not just shitposting your weird ideas that have nothing to do with reality?
>>730331264bugged platforming mechanics
>>730297460Kaizoniggers love this slop
>>730297460It’s fun but too easy. I like the mods that make Celeste quite a bit harder, especially since there’s a lot of cool tech in there that you get to use.
>>730332000For games with lives where they matter: Mega Man and Donkey Kong games, lose too many lives and you lose your checkpoints in the stageFor a game that's better off without lives: Any fast paced game where death is an intended part of the learning process, like Super Meat Boy, IWBTG, etcFor games with interesting systems that are like lives: Volgarr the Viking and Curiosity both use a sort of lives system that are a flag for the good ending. If you die too much (or reset in the case of Curiosity), you miss out on the good ending.
>>730319293I'll go a step further, once you jump you should completely lose control of your movement until you land. none of that changing direction midair.
>>730308597salaryman shi
>>730332370...
>>730332972honestly i was thinking more Ghouls and Ghosts.
I didn't like Celeste. The gameplay is good but it relies too much on stupid gimmick platforms and the "boss fights" are shit
Wings of Vi mogs trannyleste but precision platformers are for trannies anyway, IWBTG was meant to be satire
>>730333417What about Castlevania?
>>730332370Unironically Mario 1 got it right the first time. You can make slight adjustments after you leave the ground but you're more or less committed. Every game after that mario got lighter and lighter, by World he's completely weightless. Not bad games but I think it's way less satisfying to control.
>>730330851Life systems are more important for arcade style games, where you have limited attempts to actually beat the game and mistakes are punished more harshly. Maybe it's just me, but it's a vastly different feeling than being slapped on the wrist for a mistake and just being sent back to redo the part you screwed up. I'm not saying platformers without lives are wrong but I don't like how every game is designed much more around the latter style than the former nowadays.
>>730317869Celeste is closer to kaizo than super meatboy, it's just kaizo mario but way more readable so anyone can play it and with a better moveset. Super meatboy is kind of total ass, a lot of games mentioned in these threads are dumb xbox live arcade normalfaggot slop.
>>730297067Thats basically also a level design of most of mario world hacks.
>>730336152>posts literal tranime
>>730336427I don't care about trannies and mostly think they are a positive influence on video games because they're killing AAA IPs, like no tranny has ever ruined the types of games i play. Can't say the same for normalfags though.
>>730336080But in arcade games unless you mean actual pay to play arcades you're also just being slapped on the wrist. You're never set back more than a few minutes, maybe up to 10 in extreme cases. That's still nothing.
>>730336908With save systems and how easy it is to get lives in modern platformers that actually have them, I don’t disagree. I just believe that completely removing them is a huge detriment to certain games. Playing something like the original Mario Bros without a life system wouldn’t really be the same experience. I’m aware there’s an exploit to get max lives, but you get the idea.
>>730297067the problem is that you no longer get to approach or interact with the level in your own way. the buttons and timing necessary to proceed have been predetermined, you just need to decipher them. >>730297460>30 seconds of zero platforms. >in a "platformer".
>>730303529>how fucking ugly the game lookswell yeah, its tranny coded. what do you expect? lol
im not as autistic as you guys so I can accept that different times of platformers exist for different people to find enjoyment in
>>730297067>indie games invented trial and error level design
>>730304120Yes anon cause having to replay the entire game because you died to a bullshit enemy is SO much better
>/v/ complains about casuals ruining gamings>gets filtered by any game that poses the SLIGHTEST challenge KEK
>>730298243Making that block auto-destructs so quickly at the end at the end is disgusting. Do you at least see blocks like this before this level so you know in advance they do that?
>>730338727Celeste has more ways of beating its stages than a mario game does, like objectively a lot more, this is just wrong and insanely ignorant. Like if you were to look up 7-C on youtube, I can guarantee you the inputs used to beat the stage would not be identical to that anons webm
>/v/tards coping about hard games saying it's memorization "autism" when that applies to most if not all games in terms of platforminglol, imagine if Captchas made you play a simple iwbtg needle level, the seethe would be priceless.
>>730315570He wasn't born deaf. His hearing started to worsen around his 20's and was really bad by the time he was 40. At that point he relied on his inner ears and knowledge of the music to keep composing. A person born deaf would not have concept of what sound is.
>>730336526>because they're killing AAA IPs,They're the only ones keeping them afloat, what on earth are you talking about?
>>730340321If only that were actually true
>>730330580It's dumber than you think, I simply copied the top left jump.
>>730340765Have you even played iwbtg or are you just bringing it up because it's a meme?
>>730318313>what are level creators
>>730341138I have, albeit not the original and only the fangames, the needle ones would be fun as apart of a captcha system much like that one doom captcha thread showcased and it's simple enough in nature to implement.forcing people to play hard video game captchas would cure this site of its problems and hopefully kill a bunch of undesireables in the process; the best kind of april fools that could be done is that and oekakis being the only way to use attachments.
>>730315446>liberalWhy is it that amerimutts don't know the meaning of the words they use?
>>730320829Games need friction in order to be fun.If you have fun steamrolling through a game then you're a low IQ ape who's only looking to pass time
>>730341438>fails the gate jumpYour posting privileges should be revoked immediately.
>>730297067>chuds ITT seething about Celesteif the dev liked Trump, you'd all be sucking his cock
>>730341043The speedrun of celeste has been optimised down 14 hours shorter with no major skips. Obviously that much time doesn't go away if there isn't optional movement which can be optimized.
So glad I’m not a platform girly
>ctrl-f troon: 11 results>ctrl-f trann: 18 resultstranny and platformers must be some kind of self-feeding nature's atrocity like ant death spirals
>>730340982/v/ discusses movie games more than anyone else on the internet, not even resetera discusses mass effect as much as nu/v/ does. They're the ones killing video games and they'll rush out to buy the latest slop just to complain about it.
>>730297224Show me this exact sequence in SMB3 Show me how you need to do this in Rayman 1C'mon
>>730345058Rayman is boring slop
>>730303913soulless fag
>>730297609>cave story in top 3 games ever>never actually beat the final bossbro i got the game off of pixels own site for free back in the age of ancients, paid for it on multiple platforms throughout the years and still never got around to actually finishing the final fuck of a boss and now im old
>>730340765I like hard platforming games but smw kaizo hacks are another level of gigatism
>>730345580My problem with them is that, despite 'muh memorization' being a meme thrown around here, I think it actually applies about those.Maybe if I played more SMW fangames and I had a better understanding of the physics it wouldn't feel that way, but it feels like most of them want you to juggle shells mid air while knowing what's ahead. So I never bothered playing them.Love platformers to be clear.
>>730328815pretty sure it was Pitfall for Amiga
>>730345182Answer the question faggotThis shit is exclusive to modern platformers
>>730344737You won't see tranny namecalling in threads with normal platformers. Face it: these types of games require you to repeat the same area hundreds of times before you can proceed. It's the same thing as speedrunning, but here the challenge is self-imposed. Hence the trannies.
>>730345939You're just obviously wrong, being wrapped in hazards has been present forever, mega man has it, donkey kong has it, like literally every platformer that isn't hold to the right and press A while 10 billion enemies spawn in has it. Even modern nintendo games have ithttps://youtu.be/zlMgCGONkQ8You only very casually play boring slop so you don't know. You're worse than literal Nintendo babies
>>730346572>You won't see tranny namecalling in threads with normal platformersThis is because "tranny" has replaced the "casual" insult on /v/ because it's full of normalfag casuals. They are below everyone else, so they can't even make an insult related to games.>I have the play a stage more than once!? THIS IS BULLSHIT I NEED TO CONSUME
>troonimai spammer>throwaway twitter screencap thread by the usual suspectsgood thread, have a bump
>>730346970No, thats because a tranny is the lowest form of life, only surpassed by kikes, 15 years ago you would be called a faggot, but nowadays a faggot has somehow managed to climb the ladder over a few other subhumans, like nogs and jeets.
>>730297067I'm still trying to pinpoint when exactly /v/ became infested by not just shitters, but shitters proud of being shitters. Because it wasn't in the immediate election tourist invasion.
What's the /v/erdict?
>>730349050I refunded it, this is absolute garbage. Literally where is the level design? I played it for an hour straight and it barely even felt like a game
>>730297410Dustforce was pretty cool but I stopped playing really quickly because I don't feel much motivation to play platformers. Didn't you all get your fill of this genre in the 80s and 90s?
>>730346970Based Dodonpachi in tate modeWhy you playing on normal tho (no shaming)
>>730346970>that webmhow many years of hrt?
>>730349050i love this game
/v/ doesn't play games
>/v/ doesn't play games made for mtf troonsFIFY
>>730297067It would actually be better without the spikes.>>730297191Kek, can't unsee it now.
Lmao not only are you lot failed normalniggers who completely botched your lives, not only are you also terminally skillless scrubs incapable of playing anything above crap literally designed for kindergarden or AAA slop designed to hold your hand, but you're also so anal anguished about entire existence you'd rather ineffectually bitch and moan at everything else than do anything to improve yourselves (not that you'd ever be capable of it). Absolutely pathetic.
>>730354685Lmao this nigga salty
>>730354929Ayy this autismo triggered
>>730297067post fun platformers theni vote this one. can go fast and it isnt spike hell
>>730354685>BRO THOUGHT HE COOKED WITH TS
>>730354685Imagine getting this filtered by casual indie shit
>>730308597
>>730297460>visibly touches the spikes multiple times>takes no damage because ???
>>7303585971001 spikes mentionned in 2026, /v/ is healing...
>>730358625The illusion of difficulty
>>730297067Death of Arcade game design has forever ruined gaming.
>>730313881If you had to memorize the levels to beat, say, SMB3, you may be clinically retarded.
>>730358597Pixel art is good but I got filtered hard.
>>730358625>takes no damage because ???Because actual good game design and the foresight to make hit boxes smaller than the objects visually representing them, as the opposite feels terrible.
>>730297067You need to go to that extend to create difficulty in games with infinite amounts of retries. We lost a lot when developers stopped putting limited lives and continues in their games and allowed players to save almost anywhere/at all times.
>>730359707>actually the hitbox doesn't correspond to the character at allThere is no world where this is good design.
>>730359719>We lost a lotThis is an interesting assertion but I'd argue it's the opposite and it enables better and more complex design, and far more challenging setpieces become accessible to a general audience. A lot of the games you like are probably too easy for me to enjoy, but we can both play and beat Celeste. Furthermore, /v/ will not play truly difficult platformers with a life system, trying to get /v/ to play annalynn is like pulling teeth. And I expect /v/ would endless whine about old games like GnG or Psychic 5 and how routing heavy they are. When you mix difficulty and limited lives, you get a routing game. Which is too hard for /v/, just look at shmup threads
>>730359719Infinite amount of retries and save anywhere/at all times are completely different things.Lives are a shit mechanic, saving anywhere is too.
>>730297067Pixel precision is bad design in general. You're not making a game, you're making an exam. There's no system and no space for the player to make any meaningful choices in.
>>730360403>>730360554Just do what NES Ninja Gaiden does where you start from the beginning of the level when you lose all your lives. You can make levels as hard as possible and the player will still feel a sense of mastery from beating the early parts of the level so many times.Better than to grind a section until you get lucky.
>>730297460Everybody wanks the shit out of this game but it looks so bad
>>730297067Why not make your own 2d platformer?
>>730297460>unironally posting trannyleste
>>730328815Meat Boy has an abundance of buzzsaws, but for the most part they’re deliberately placed.They kinda have to be; there’s no dashes or double jumps, you get jump and wall jump. It can’t be tunnel-o-spikes because you are required to touch platforms.
>>730360603You aren't making choices when obstacles aren't present. Video games aren't some free-form jazz. The choice occurs at the obstacle, and you're free to make the sub-optimal one, which may or may not result in your death. Like if we look herehttps://youtu.be/jNE6lSSbYNMThere are no substantial glitches here, but despite being very punishing this many, many hours faster than a casual player could clear the game, even subtracting time wasted on user error. Secondly, I would argue strict sequences aren't inherently bad, and that games are not supposed to be some sort of free-form jazz, and to say otherwise is a profoundly abhorrent misunderstanding of what a game is.Diversity and complexity comes from very dense obstacles and methods to navigate them, not wide open spaces that don't communicate when you're playing poorly, and ultimately that's what comments like these boil down to, getting butthurt because the game is effectively communicating that you're a bad player.
>>730361027SMB was great but the spiritual sequel The End is Nigh was so much better. It feels so good to control Ash. Fuck the no death carts though.
>>730360749>Just do what NES Ninja Gaiden does where you start from the beginning of the level when you lose all your livesBut ninja gaiden is really easy and boring. You can't point to any part of it and say "that's good and memorable design". Not a single second of that game has left any lasting impact on me.
>>730297191>>730302981bless yous
