Which Ace Combat is your favorite and why?
i want a pure scifi aerial combat gamesomething like strike vector i guess, but a single player campaign
>>730387081Sci-fi is space territory, have you played Freespace 1 and 2? The campaign is great.
It would be easier for me to mention my least favorite 4
>>7303869543 despite being the cucked international versionbecause it is the first one I playedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_UiIO3oAos
>>730387081I haven't played it yet, so I can't speak on its quality, but Echelon might be what you're looking for.
>>730387081Try G-Police on PS1.
>>730387081Star Fox 64
Is Project Wingman good?
>>730387081uhhh... star wars games?
>>730388415Well I liked it. The VR support helped.
>>730386954I like zero the most but 5 is up there for sure, but I haven't played the PS1 era games. I hear 3 is pretty good, might give a try one of these days.How is playing burnt DVDs on PS2 nowadays, still need swap magic or a little plastic doodad to tank the disk drive open? or have people figured out how to get the system to read that shit automatically via FMCB
>>730387081ace combat 3
>>730387081https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XdcXWsmQww
Whichever one had the least amount of melodrama anime teammates but at the same time had the quality of life changes like the zoom in and cockpit view. So I think 4?
>>730389034if anything it needs more anime melodrama
Ace Combat except better
After playing 3jp to replaying 7, 5 is my fave
>>730389449That was by Singletrac, right? The Twisted Metal guys? Man, I swear, as much as they talk about TM being 'Doom with cars,' it's way more like Ace Combat without wings.
>>730386954Ace Combat ZeroStory is short and bittersweetReplayability with choices for campaignGot that Cold War feel to itClosest tieAce Combat 3 ElectrosphereI really like the aesthetics UPEO is da best
>>730390184>That was by Singletrac, right? The Twisted Metal guys? Yes.
>>730386954I cannot choose one. 7 has the best gameplay and best graphics. Amazing music. Misunderstood and underrated story. Of course it has some flaws too, mostly to do with its storytelling. 4 is the best experience overall. A lot of score attack missions, but not a single bad mission. Megalith is the best climax in the series. The best story in the series. Best vibes in the series. Zero is very comparable to 4, where there aren't really any bad missions. Best characters. The FMV cutscenes are a double edged sword though. 3 is maybe inarguably the coolest as a game and what it tries to do as a game. I'm not a huge fan of the gameplay compared to the later titles, but 3 is up there with stuff like Ghost in the Shell and Metal Gear Solid in terms of an experience.
>>730388660I had a PS2 Slim back in the 2010s, it had a Matrix chip soldered in the boardThat's how I've managed to play stuff with burnt discs right off the batReading games with the USB via OPL sucks be cause all FMVs get slowed down (USB port is 1.1, not 2.0)At least I've managed burn and play stuff like AeroDancing 4 (Aero Elite Combat Academy), which is a simplified flight sim
>>730386954Zero. Just because the focus on dog fights meant the player got to fight so many enemy Aces. And the concept of the Round Table had a really romantic flavor that turned all the aces into "knights". That brings up the thing I didn't like about 7 which was the focus on drone combat since the game was made back when drones were still a hot topic. It's kind of lame when most of the enemy planes are just faceless drones with no backstory. Granted the story was still crazy anyway.
>>730392389Production I.G. had made all anime sequences for AC3, that's why it screams GitS
>>730386954Zero because I like Combat in my ace Combat games
I like warthunder
>>730386954Zero
>>7303869546 was my first and I still like it more than anything else
>>7303869545>0>6>4>7>>730388415I thought it was better then 7.
>>730393209Well the story too. Similar to the GitS movie but it actually covers a lot more ground in terms of ideas.
>>730393194there's always Sky Crawlers if you want drones with faces and backstory.
>>730393756I have a maybe irrational hatred of 6, but there were some moments where the sheer earnestness of the story got to me. It's still the worst in the series though.
>>730393819man I kinda wish this had a Japanese VA audio option in the US version
Simply because it was my first AC game + it was set in real life world + it was one of the few PSP games that actually had servers for multiplayer games rather than relying on Ad Hoc and telling people to get together to play mp
>>730393965there's probably an undub patch
>>7303869546It was my first, I like the setting a lot Emmeria is an interesting nation, and I liked the WingmanLiberation of Gracemeria is also the best song in the franchise
>>730386954Just got into the series, so far:0 > 4 > 5Haven't finished 0 yet.I actually played 6 back in the day because I was a 360fag. Don't remember much about it though.
>>7303869546
7 is the only one I’ve played. It was fun I hope 8 is better though and has a cooler story
>>730394173It's hard for me not to see you as braindead
6 wanking is shitposting. Game is so fucking bad.
>>730394370You just hate freedom
Ace Combat 6 because of the large scale battlefields, useful allies and actually tracking missiles. Also it's the only one that let you switch to landing mode without loading you into a seperate landing map away from the battlefield map.
>>730394370Most Americans are too stupid to realize when they're being made fun of with a game liek 6
>>730393819I want more of this
>>730394513>how can I make this about Americans?
>>730394450>large scale battlefieldsYou mean the long monotonous missions>useful alliesThe instant win button>actually tracking missilesNot having to play the game well
>>730386954grok let's animate this like the plane is flying inverted and it turns out the pilot is a woman with huge tits and they flop out of her unzipped flightsuit
>>730393194>And the concept of the Round Table had a really romantic flavor that turned all the aces into "knights".This is why I love Zero the most. It's a very grand story.
>>730394650The game is about Americans and was made for the American console. Almost nobody but Americans played it, and few of them at that.
>>730388660You can now patch ISOs and burn those to discs that automatically play with minimal issue.
We need a WWII era ace combat. It's shocking to me that they have never tried it before, it has so much more potential since dogfighting is actually dogfighting in WWII, not just planes lobbing missiles and evading with flares. As for the question, it has to be 5. The first one I ever played was 4 but 5 was my favorite. A lot of people will say Zero because the story is a bit more interesting but I still like 5's story and characters a lot. 6 is underrated too but many people never played it since xbox exclusive still to this day. The worst thing though is all of the best games are just stuck on the old consoles if you won't emulate them. I mean shit, I just want a port collection of 4, 5, 6 and zero, they don't even need to remaster anything, just port them to PC and modern consoles and make it a collection for $60, I'd buy it.
>>730394370It's better than 5 at least.
>>730394767every game is about americans
>>730394767The game is about British people liberating themselves from a country that mixes Estonia and Solvakia.
>Visiting cousin in florida >he's in high school as am I, he's trying to get to the air force academy (he does, and became a pilot)>we go to gamestop to look at some games>see this game it just came out, know nothing about it but look it has fighter jets on the cover so it must be cool, after all we just played ace combat 4 and 5 together a few days ago>put it in my xbox and boot it up expecting something like ace combat, it's nothing like that and is complete dogshit and we stop playing it within an hourstill got my copy of this piece of shit game sitting on a shelf, I tried to play it again a few more times after that but it was nothing like ace combat and I lost interest so fast
>>730394836No, 5 is a much better experience than 6. 6 is only tolerable in some abstract way where you look at it as a series of arcade challenges that exist in a vacuum.
Absolutely braindead >>730394970
>>730386954I've only played Ace Combat 7. I liked it.
>>730395206>only tolerable in some abstract way where you look at it as a series of arcade challenges that exist in a vacuum.As it should be. I just want to shoot at things, not felate story and lore. That's why 5 fags are delusional. They only praise the story, but the gameplay is horrid.
>>730395253nice argument :^) Emmeria is a former monarch turned Democracy which keeps its monarchy around as a cultural prop. It's Britain. As for the enemy? [Est]onia + Sol[vakia] = Estovakia
Is the gamer to pilot pipeline real?
>>730394828>We need a WWII era ace combat. It's shocking to me that they have never tried it before----> >>730393819>>730394595consider Crimson Skies and its sequel, High Road to Revenge
>>730395884High Road to Revenge is so damn good. So, of course, Microsoft will never make a sequel.
>>730395486>As it should be.HELL no.5's gameplay is great. It's some of the best in the series. The only problem with 5 is it's also got a handful of missions that are incredibly annoying to replay on high difficulties, because you have no checkpoints and have to wait out a long scripted sequence or dialogue moment to finish. But 6 has a story that is actively detrimental to the experience. I would genuinely rather play the first two plotless PS1 games if I just wanted an arcade challenge, because 6's story is so bad.
>>730395884I've played both of those games. I want an ace combat style WWII game still, like a historic war set in strangereal with similar nations and whatnot, could model one nation after the germans, one after the societs, one after america, the uk, etc, I played crimson skies back on the OG xbox, it had a fun online multiplayer I used to use the helicopter plane on that city level and hide in the skyscrapers to surprise other players. Fun times. Shame that game never got a sequel.
>>730395791You have the IQ of an average brit.
>>730396084NTA, but I'm assuming you've also played Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces
>>730395791It's *Slovakia desu but you're right
>>7303869543 because I like the multiple paths and fictional planes
>>730396194Why are you so stupid?
>>730393194I like how each squad leader had their own personality and reflected the life they lived. Like how Grun leader was just trying to adapt to the war like adapting on the streets to live, so he was a centrist on the morality path. The devs weren't lazy like in AC7 which is the exact opposite and endgame characters not having anything that sets them apart other than a static portrait. They put everything they could into Zero, it's THE Ace Combat game.
>>730396029owned by Microsoft but as a FASA IP it's in a weird limbo.FASA cofounder Jordan Weisman licensed all of his old IPs back to himself when he left Microsoft but he also keeps setting up companies to manage one IP at a time and then shuttering them. Harebrained Schemes might have had the license last but he sold the company to Paradox in 2018 and the only thing they did with it was a facebook game about pirates anyway.
I'mma play it in the future, but how's it lads?
>>730397076It's good. Existing fans will always be divisive over newer entries, and the story flubs the execution, but it was a very solid return to form after 12 years.
0 dickriding is getting old
>>730397982>man it's getting old that people dickride one of the best games in the series
>>730386954X because that's what got me into the series
>>730393194I like Zero because of the exact opposite of what you're saying, because it's one long "fuck you" to the concept of the noble knight-like fighter pilot, as well as practically mocking 5 for being naive bullshit. Don't mistake me, I'm not saying that Zero is right and 5 is just about naive children, I'm saying that that's what Zero feels like. A cynical rebuttal to the concept of "fighting for peace" because you can stop the war but you can't stop the next one from starting, and all you'll end up doing is fighting someone else's war for their benefit at the end of it all.It's a cynicism that Ace Combat never really revisits, and that's why Zero is the best to me - because compared to all the others, Zero feels like the game with the most to say.
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>>730386954Which one was Shattered Skies? 5?
>>730386954its an arcade game for children and mentally ill trannies
>>7303869546 because of the music.
>>730387081star citizen
I have been seething about Ace Combat 6. I'm not going to pretend otherwise. Deciding to post this because anons might find this funny. There are at least 4 "Fuck Yous" Ace Combat 6 gives the player in its story. 1. "Go dance with the angels!" is presented, literally, in its first use, as a wife telling her pilot husband to go fuck off when he's not paying enough attention to her. They then kind of backtrack this and pretend its' a cutesy thing their daughter says, but basically a cutesy way of saying "Go fuck yourself!" is a central motif of the story. 2. There's that one Strigon Team pilot who really wants to fuck his captain. This is pretty much the extent of the character development for Strigon Team. You could compare this in Ace Combat 4 to the boy in the interludes looking up to Yellow 13 as a father figure, but of course that's relatable and understandable in the context of the story because the kid is a war orphan in need of a father figure. It's a really cool way of making Yellow 13 respectable. In Ace 6 the only way you'd find Mr. "Man, my captain is so hot" relateable is if you were gay. I think the game might be trying to call the player gay.3. If you've played the game you know "The Golden King" is a laden symbol in the story, representing the spirit of Gracemeria, etc. etc. It's not just a missing suit of golden armor, it's Gracemeria's "hopes and dreams" etc. etc., which ended up being protected by the children, who had moved the suit of armor from its throne to a hiding place beneath the castle. So a very sweet metaphor about "hope being with our children" or something like that. etc. etc. Of course, the reveal of the Golden King after you discover the children have been hiding it, is undercut by an erection joke, where the armor is sitting on top of a tank with the cannon between its legs. 4. If you pay attention to the dialogue, Gracemeria is bombed by cruise missiles during the final mission.
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>>730402175Thanks, that one
>>7303869545 because it has my wife in it
Zero. The story being told in a Ken Burns style documentary and the use of a Spanish guitar to tell you when shit has gotten real was fucking brilliant and I want to see more games do that. The ace style system I really wish they'd give another crack since it was a fun concept, even if I only ever end up going merc.>>730387140Don't forget the many mods. Blue Planet was why I never picked up the cursed monkey paw and asked for a third game.
>>730390774fuck you, Neucom fo lyfe
>>730402128>4. If you pay attention to the dialogue, Gracemeria is bombed by cruise missiles during the final mission.only if you're bad at the game
>>730402307she is in 7 as well
>>730402128>Gracemeria is bombed by cruise missiles during the final mission.What really sucks about this one in particular (besides the fact that right at the last minute it turns blowing up the final superweapon into a hollow victory) is you spend the first 5-to-7 minutes of the previous mission watching fireworks to celebrate your victory in the war, then you have to chase down multiple cruise missiles in a repeat of Breaking Arrows from 4. Then, in the final mission, along with the dialogue about Gracemeria being bombed, there's also dialogue about how all of your air defense fighters are currently on the mission to destroy the big superweapon. It's just such a bad/bizarre flatulent ending. THENThey don't even address this in the post-mission/credits cutscene reel. They just carry on as if it actually was a happy ending. It's like they wanted to tell a story like 4's about the cost of war, but they pulled all their punches and never actually show anything bad happening. Everyone's so smiley and happy in 6 you'd think war was just a game to these people (as opposed to better Ace Combat games very successfully reminding you war is far more than a mere game). And then we get told something bad happens right at the end, as if the game wants to finally be about something real, but it quickly moves on past it and pretends it didn't actually happen. I am convinced Ace 6 is Project Aces making fun of Xbox users.
Zero - I fuckin love documentaries and the ace squadrons. The entire tone of the game works for me.3 would be right below Zero, I think the weighty physics of 3 are underrated and the way the game plays is better than many of the other entries in the series.
>>730402604That either shouldn't be something that can happen at all, or if you do "fail" the final mission, the game should address it in the final cutscenes. I've only played this game once, but the story is so fucking bad on every other level I'm not interested in trying to figure out whether the game has a weird pseudo final mission fail state.
>>730402676i think the theme of 6 was less 'the cost of war' and more 'life goes on despite hardship'
>>730387081
Count is the only actual fleshed out character with development out of about 20-ish of them. That's sad >but gameplayZero evolved into 6Squad commands morphed into allied army commands, even choosing theaters were removed, less targets are on the map even.
>>730386954I like Zero the best purely for the fact that it had the strongest machine guns. Could shred other planes in seconds.
>>730386954Zero>4>7>3>X>6(just for the gameplay)>5(Used to be a favorite but God damn replaying it to 100% has really shown its bullshit)
>own 7 and bought a copy of 6>have the rest of the games to emulate>still haven't sat down besides a couple tutorial missions with any one gameI gotta get over my fucking ADHD and focus on some shit, holy fuck
>>730403007Maybe focus on 4. It's short and sweet.
>>730402929i'd flesh out scrap queen if you catch my drift
>>730386954i've beaten 1-3 and 7, and i'm currently playing through 4. So far 1-3 were pretty exciting in their own ways, but 4 and 7 are pretty much the same game, besides balance. 3's pretty impressive for a ps1 game but the flying isn't as smooth as in the newer titles so right now i would say 2 and 7 are my favourite. Why? 7 introduced me to the series and 2 has both the coolest missions and the coolest ost
>>730402929yeah, 7 was a huge gameplay downgrade from 6 but I think most of it has to do with Unreal just being a shit engine.
>>730402981Forgot to add, Zero is the best because of how bleak it is, it really sits with you after you finish, not to add its necessary replayability with the 3 ace styles and 3xchoice missionsAnd pixy is the most interesting character in all of ace combatAlso the flight model is based on 5 but fixed, and the gameplay, difficulty without bullshit
>gameplay6>0>4>3>5>story0>3>6>4>5
>>730388415I like its missions more than 7, but the boss battles are worse, and the arsenal feels overly constrained.
>>730387081it's probably a bitch and a half to get working properly today but in the early 90s there was a badass scifi space fighter game called Star Crusader
>>730394828i would kill for a ww2/korea level game. it seems nuts that they've never done anything historical for those exact reasons. there are so many cool and unique planes of the late piston early jet eraplayed both the blazing angels games but that wasn't enough to scratch the itch
>>730402858Yea and it feels so fucking fake because it pulls all its punches. "Life goes on despite hardship" is only something you can say in comparison to actual hardship, but nothing bad happens in the story, except your copilot losing his wife right at the end, and Gracemeria getting bombed to shit by cruise missiles (which the game then pretends doesn't happen). One of the worst offenses it commits is having characters start saying "Maybe it's time to go dance with the angels myself!" because this is characters basically saying "Man, maybe I should die, lol!" and it's framed in this bizarre robotic way like nobody actually cares an officer just made a joking allusion to dying. The Golden King erection joke has me convinced this was Project Aces taking the piss. I bet they were laid with a bunch of demands from Microsoft or some western party about what kind of game they could make so they made it shitty on purpose. It's the only thing that makes sense to me with this story.
>>7304030837 has better gameplay than 6.
>>730403083That's design choices for 7, not Unreal. Fundamentally nothing really stops UE from doing crazy things, fuckin Netherrealm Studios are still working with what amounts to a personalized UE3 for Injustice and Mortal Kombat. It's all about how you use the tools, and the 7 crew peeled stuff back from 6 by choice.
>>7304029697 has the strongest machine guns if you put in all the gun enhance parts in.
>>730393819Game had the most difficult ace fight out of all the Ace Combat games. That final fight was stupid hard compared to the rest of the game.
>>730403123You cannot convince me you're not a single Ace Combat 6 schizo shitting up the thread with Ace Combat 6 dicksucking. Putting 6 over any game in the holy trinity is just insanity.
>>7304031236 over 4 and 5 in story? Are you fucking drunk? Defend it, or go fly with the angels mister
>>7304032676 guns are still stronge
4>5>0. Really because its the least anime of the games. It has the best soundtrack as well. Honestly i would rate 0 maybe a bit higher than 5 but I really hate that fucking spanish guitar. Also I wish 7 didn't have so many scripted events where you have to sit there and let shit play out before you can kill the enemy, it really hurts the replayability.
>>730403319For gameplay alone, 6 is massively underrated, the destruction maps it has are the best in the series, bigger and better than 7 even
15E plus SFFS bombs in 6 is PURE therapy. I'd sometimes pretend in my head I was ordered to do bombing runs.
>>730403457>least anime>literally anime vn story
>>730403457>I really hate that fucking spanish guitarWhy are you gay?
>>730403186>there will never be a cold war ace combat with the entire century series of fighters in the tech treeyeah yeah AC7 has the F-104 but where are my Convair doritos with their funky pop-out missile rails
>>730403457The cutscenes in 4 are literally anime, retard.
>>730403463that pretty gay
Zero. The mockumentary is sovl, it has a better plot than 5 and better mission design overall. The only thing it needed was 4's flight model (which was just 3's but less strict).i fucking love 2>>730388415yes. i will say that 7 completely mogs it in the sound department. i wish the dev updated it.>>7304030837 felt like a test run to see if they could still make AC.
>>730403258Sounds like something someone who never played 6 would say.
>>730403461The gameplay is "big" but it's not interesting, and squad commands turned into a gay instant win button. Story is probably the worst in the series and actively a detriment to enjoying the experience.
>>730403504>>730403553You niggers are stupid as fuck. Yes, no shit the story is told through a anime medium, but it doesnt have cringe bullshit that typical anime stories do.>>730403506Spanish guitar is gay.
>>730403691So what's the problem? You're made for one another.
>>730403691Gj bumping the thread I guess, but your opinions are retarded, kudos to sticking to them though
>>730396084>ace combat style WWII game stillIt takes place in actual WWII rather than a made up world, but there's Secret Weapons Over Normandy
>>730403691Anime refers to animation. You are fucking illiterate, redditor
>>730403664I've played 6, and it's all gay score attack missions that drag on too long except you can order your allies to insta kill things when you get bored. The post stall manuvers alone make 7 more fun to play, not to mention the game having more than one mission type.
>>730403676I like my instant destroy all air units button when I'm flying an a10 tyvm
>>730403798>I like the game when it plays itself6fags, everybody
>>730403691this dude actually retarded
>>730403794Aoa limiter> psmThat's something I hope they steal for 8
>>730394828>>730396084Not quite WWII era, but certainly WWII planes AND on the Ace Combat engine. It's an anime film tie-in game at that.
>>7304038306 sucks ass.
>>730403825Go fly for 10minutes at 300kmh over a island while <<Woofing>> faggot
AC6 is and will probably be the only AC dedicated to ground units and attacker aircraft.
>>7304033196 is 0 but expanded, 0 is 5 but better, ergo 6>5&0>>7304033215 had way too much player dick sucking, more than any previous or since, and maybe i'm just bad at 5 but i never felt like i earned the title of razgriz, where as in 6 you're never given a special nickname just garuda 1 or that bird emblem, something far easier to feel connected to and its also didnt have somehow belka returned, which is what really killed the story for me, as for 4 i just didnt like it, no special reasoning, it just wasnt to my taste
>>730403893>6 is 0 but expanded, 0 is 5 but better, ergo 6>5&0No, making all the levels retardedly huge and long isn't an improvement. And no, Zero is not "5 but better" they're completely different experiences.
>>730403893That's not a bad point, one minute razgriz is some legend and next mission ur the demons of razgrizThat black and red f14 is pure sex though
Dicksucking Ace Combat 6 over the holy trinity is actual insanity. I can't believe I'm seeing this shit.
>>730388415Yes and the soundtrack is great too.
I played Assault Horizon, 7, 4, and 5. 7 is by far the best. Music, interesting missions, beautiful locations. 04 is the worst, it has none of the above. Assault Horizon seems underrated to me; yes, it's a pathetic attempt at call of duty, but as a dumb fun spinoff it's fine
>>730403965nta but 6 expands on things introduced in Zero like theater choice in missions
>>730404041I dont think anyone rates 6 over zero and 4, 5 is debatable
>>730404112What the fuck is theater choice? Do you faggots just make up retarded shit on the fly?
>>730404114>4, 5 is debatableNo. It's not. It's called the holy trinity for a reason.
>>730404060Bro, AH is trash for forced drm, period, full stop, no cap, etc
I dunno man, 5 has really unfun missions, especially when going for Ace S rank
>>730404202Dfm* I meant, mobile posting >>730404112
>>730404162I think anon means the fact that in Zero you're able to choose which objective you want to complete in certain missions.The problem is in Zero this completely changes these missions. It's essentially a branching path system, where each mission that lets you choose which objective to complete is actually 3 seperate missions that use the same map. You have to replay the mission to get the full experience. In 6, virtually every single mission lets you choose from one of three starting locations and which objective you want to complete.The problem is, once you complete the objective, the mission keeps going and you're tasked with completing the other two mission objectives or the mission fails. So every single fucking mission in 6 ends up playing the same way.
>>730404112Nah 6 doesn't have theater choice, it had entry choice, big difference, 3 missions vs 1
>>730404162this nigger
>>730404246I would rather replay 5 casually on normal difficulty than ever replay 6 again.
The new trinity is AH, 6 and Zero.
>>730404060>7 is by far the best. Music, interesting missions, beautiful locations.>04 is the worst, it has none of the above.Bait is supposed to be believable.
I couldn't resist cynthia, I followed her for my first playthrough of 3
When did you guys get so dumb?
>>730404450Obvious troll is obvious.
>>730404165This. Before 7 no one had this attitude like OP about which is better. Everyone was an ACE if you were talking about the series and it was only good vibes. Sure we would give 6 some flak for being xbox only and especially Assault Horizon but whenever someone memed we memed along.
>>730404060Actually, I should correct myself because the locations are partly the same because both games are about the war with Erusea, it's just that PS2 game doesn't look beautiful and I have eyes to notice it.>>730404465You could try listing what you liked about 04. As for me, there's nothing that makes this series so beloved. The plot is simple, told through static images, most missions are point grinds, and there aren't even any dialogues with interesting characters during missions.
>>730404564I blame Assault Horizon sooner than I'd blame 7. But if you really have to blame 7, it's the more modern casual audiences brought in that largely can't even play the older games in the first place and won't go out of their way to emulate them either.
nice
>>730404564Everyone hates Assault Horizon. 6 is still rightfully considered one of the worst in the series. The holy PS2 trinity is 4, 5, and Zero. Be less obviously gay.
X360 being emulatable was a mistake
>>730404652>You could try listing what you liked about 04. I will sing 4's praises to the bitter end. >As for me, there's nothing that makes this series so beloved.And you're an obvious troll, because in the actual Ace Combat community, 4 is considered one of if not the best game in the whole fukken series.
<< I'm gay, Trigger. >>
AC6 is great, felt like on the few times PA had a shred of interest for making the series actually interesting gameplaywise, needed iteration though shame it flopped and they're still making ace combat 2 clones
4 is gorgeous if you can visualize an apple.
>730404810>in the actual Ace Combat communitygo back
>>730404843You are the most obvious troll ever, you do know that right
I prefer 3 over the PS2 trilogy. I just got into the series in August and played through it in release order even the PSP ones.
I think this thread really shows how much this site has gone downhill. Ace combat threads used to be comfy as fuck.
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>>730404913I'm not going back to your mom's cunt, you're already one mistake with her too many.
It's a fact that everyone outside of plebbit hates 5. 6 is just okay. miss me with 3-anything, gay anime shite.
>>730405016You aren't a man until you've played through 3 translated, nigger
>>730405016No. 5 is still a part of the holy trinity. The only problem with it is it's really punishing.
>>730405016Shut up bitch, Ace Combat is just Gundam with planes
>>730404879It still fucks with me that there are people who can't do that.
*AHEM*It's a requiem. Heed my words! This boat has the means to end this hideous war, in a definitive and elegant manner. We seek not a conflict, but rather a restoration of balance, a judgment. And it will be done with reason, from beginning to end. The world shall be horrified by the number of lives we will take. Only then will they let go of their weapons... Weapons that would have taken the lives of ten million. ...Let me tell you a story. Back when I was a gunnery officer... I had to aim at an enemy ship 30 kilometers away in the middle of a storm. The seas were rough that day, and still, I landed one of the two shots. Target is the Osean capital of Oured! To take the lives of one million people, 5,000 kilometers away, with my very own hands! GAH! Don't you see, Three Strikes?! Ten million lives will be saved at the cost of a mere million lives! Don't you see? Don't you see?! LANDING A CLEAN SHOT ON A DIFFICULT TARGET! THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT ELEGANT! THAT IS TRUE BEAUTY! ... ALAS, YOU DON'T SEE, THREE STRIKES! OF COURSE YOU WOULDN'T! HHHUAHAHAHAHAH! ONE MILLION! ONE MILLION LIVES GONE!COOOOMAND DUUUUUUUUUUTY OFFFICERRRRRRRRRRRRR!ALL SLOW AHEAD! FLOOD THE AFT TRIM TANKS! THAT'LL GIVE THE RAILGUN THE ELEVATION IT NEEDS! DO IT NOWWW!!!
>>7304051035"s unlock system sucked ass and it beat you over the head with how bad war is
>>730404973Yea. I hate to voice this or think about it, but this does not bode well for 8.
>>730405172>5's unlock system It's just like every other game since 4...>it beat you over the head with how bad war isThat's a gross oversimplification and not even really accurate. 5 is early James Bond novel tier political conspiracy, and it's not as much about the effects of war as 4 was...
>there are b*lk*ns in this thread
So Zero is the best, but let's analyze the situation, was pity right? Could a world without boundaries have been successful? War is hell, but is causing a nuclear holly justified?
>pre-ordering 7 on PS4 got you AC5, and on xbox you got AC6>so they have a PS2 emulation lying around for the AC games of some sort, and clearly had something to be able to give Xbox even though they delisted 6 digitally>2026 and AC8 is now on the way but there's still not a single digital redistribution whatsoever of any prior gamesI hate planes licensing.
Osea start everything then de used propganda against glorious bELKA
>>730405330Have you actually played 5? Its unlocked system is based in killcount, took me 4 playthroughs to get every plane. Its the only game in the series that works like this.
>>730405409I think Titty wasn't right, he also admits at the end of the game he was wrong.
>>730405491Hehe, solo titty pixy
>>730405489You just buy them....
>>730405610You can't prove that.
Electrosphere is the best by a significant margin. 0 is massively overrated, it's fucking stupid and the worst of the PS2 trilogy.
>>730405610OK lol, youve clearly only done 1 playthrough on normalWhy do you think some planes have additional things to their right in the hangar? Go back and check again
>>730405684Zero is winning in the polls thoughbeit
>>730405101How good is the translation? I hate playing those 75% complete patches.I played it in japanese way back then and I understood about 2% of it. It was cool getting all the routes even though I had to clean up my memory card.
I've been playing AC7 for a few days and despite trying my hardest I'm just not feeling it. The story is just ridiculous, the dialogue is retarded (lots of talking to say nothing), the checkpoint system sucks ass, and this might just be a personal thing but I only really enjoy the dogfighting. Having to take out radar, SAMs, and annihilation mission score attack shit in general is just so gay. I think I'd probably like it more if it were less arcadey, kind of takes me out of it and I realize I'm just racing against a clock and trying to run up a score.
>>730405684What's your justification in rating zero worse than 4 or 5?
>>730405741>but I only really enjoy the dogfightingTime to play Zero!
>>730405732Load word team 1.1 is basically 100%, its like jp with English subs
>>7303869545. Aside from the unapologetic Blurry song that got my blood pumping when I first played it, I just love having wingmen that makes me feel like we're a team. The whole Razgriz squadron just makes me feel like we're an unstoppable force of nature and the frantic cries of the enemies later on in the game when they heard that we're on the battlefield just pumps me up.That's why I'm excited with 8. It seems like they're going back to the whole tight squadron motif.
>>730405409boarders, both those on a map and in our heads, are intrinsic to the human condition, to make a world without boarders would be to make a world without humans and at the end of the game i think pisy understood that
>>730405684Why?
>>730405741Not every series is for everybody
>>730405751I didn't enjoy it as much. I thought 5 was also not great, but after everyone talked up zero I was really expecting more than "lol your wingman is the bad guy".
>>730405832CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL THE WAY-HAY
>>730405838>and at the end of the game i think pisy understood thatPissy's dream was for the conflict of Borders: Cafe an Bookstore to end
>>730405741Destroying every single dot on the map before hitting the TGTs was ingrained in me from 04
>>7303869548Trust
The real question, is Simon from ac3 the narrator child from ac4?
>>730406415KekI can fix(8nukesin1) her
>>730406381Nah Simon's too much of an incel to be himDid Simon have an age in AC3? It's only 35ish years from AC4 to AC3 and Simon looked like he was late 40s. Even Yoko was already working as Doctor Cunnyman's assistant by AC7.
>>730406525Yes Simon was born in July of 2000 I believe
>>730386954AC8's announcement at the gay awards being the only good thing there made me finally start to play the ace combat games in my backlog back in december, which so far has been the PS2 trilogy played in release order. out of those three, my favorite was probably AC5, mainly due to the fact that i really liked the story. i've heard it doesn't have much replayability compared to the other games though (and after playing through AC0 even once that seems quite apparent) so if i ever decide to replay the PS2 trilogy in the future i'll probably not enjoy it as much as i did the first time around and my opinion might change.
>>730406974I agree, for a first playthrough ac5 is pretty great.I think that's why many people rank it so highly.
>>7304069745 is fun to replay (on normal) but it's not fun to S rank on Ace difficulty. That's really the only problem with it.
trigger what the hell are you doing?!nghhh... almost... thru... nghhh... the anime water fallllllllllll
Pixy would have followed Big Boss
>>730407475Trvthnvke
For me, it's Chopper Attack.
What's the darksouls of ace combat games?
>ChopperHe died in a football stadium.
>>730407645A bullet through your skull, soulspigger.
>>730407665There was a riverFuckin retard
>>730407612
>>730407758Also an acceptable answer.
>>730407645Sky Crawlers unironically.
am I biased towards Ace Combat 4 because I was a Christian when I played it, or is Megalith objectively good
>>730407758Hey I played that was awesome, probably, I can't remember it was so long ago
>>730407837Holy fucking ACE COMBAT
>>730407837I pity consolepiggies who can never know such joys.
>>730407645booting up Ace Combat infinity with a level 1 zero exp plane during a NTDM event and joint a 3,200 MR room.
>>730407942After an entire game of generic music, agnus dei hits so fucking hard
>>730407837Why didn't she just do that instead with the Arsenal Bird?
>>730407837Retard forgot to drop below 2000
>>730388415big recommendONLY use two-seater planes for waifu with special dialogue
>>7304080964 has some bangers. Actually most of 4 is great and probably underrated. But Rex Tremendae/Agnus Dei and the subtext really elevate the entire gamehttps://youtu.be/9G1ob5jnuSo?si=XWOnKTFEIYqwkbRR
>>730408191Sex with mcconie
Hottake, 3 was so good because the main team was working on 04Same with zero when the main team working on 6
>>730407942Even back in my atheist years I thought Megalith was an excellent track.
Mobius 1 vs Blaze vs Cipher vs TriggerWho wins?
look, man, you don't need to be thinking about religion or not to like latin singing, you just like it, you look at a jets ass and hear it and its good
>>730408705cipher
>>730408705Mobius1 f22 qaams have no equall
>>730408705didn't Belkans invent air combat doctrine? thats why their air force was so yuuuuuge?
>>730408705Count because he gets the top score again.
>>730408705Cipher's entire thing was taking out aces
>>730408705talisman
Cipher winshe killed Mobius 1 in the bonus mission "The Gauntlet" which none of you fags unlocked loool
>>730388415It's good. The levels and mechanics are great, but the presentation is not- a matter of the budget being tiny, of course.
>>730408752You know, I'm going to challenge this. The latin track in 04 is actually about christ and Megalith is the best final mission in the series. I'm not even a christian but I'm almost inclined to believe actual christianity improved 4, where the original Latin lyrics for the other games don't hit as hard.
he won
>>730408705Nemo.
>>730407837What would have happened if he cobra'd down the barrel instead?
>>730387081>strike vectori havent heard that name in years...
>>730409084Thats just being autistic. The song is good, thats all that matters.
>>730388415its good for what it is. if you like AC you'll have a solid time, but there are some major shortcomings with the game that make it difficult to recommend over any AC minus assault horizon. Though that changes if you have a vr setup, much more worth it in that case
>>730409084>normal personhehe note go high dats good>4channerFUCK! time for an essay
>>730409369>>730409452Nah you know what it isWith Rex Tremendae/Agnus Dei during Megalith it's implying that you're acting out the will of God. Which makes it all the worse when you get the boy's letter at the end. It's some Evangelion level irony desu.
>>730409563I've never heard this bullshit and it doesnt matter. To me, the lyrics were nonsensical but it sounded good, thats where it began and ended. Trying to make it about God or whatever is some kojima level nonsense.
>>730407837
>>730409698>Trying to make it about God or whatever is some kojima level nonsense.Uh ok ...but the lyrics are literally (in Rex Tremendae)King,King of tremendous majesty,who freely saves those worthy ones,save me, source of mercy. (in Agnus Dei)Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world, grant them rest.May eternal light shine upon them, O Lord:With Thy Saints forevermore:for Thou art gracious.And these are taken from actual Latin hymns...
>>730409857>uchuu senkan yamato op starts playing
>>730409857
>>730409857>>730410096kino...
>>730409857>>730410096lmao
>>730409452bro thinks 3 sentences is an essay
>>730386954Zero. Just everything. As a whole package it's the best one, and it's not only because of the meme one-liners that everyone knows, it's just short, concise perfectly paced. There really aren't that many filler missions if any, they are mostly all bangers. I also really like the framing of the story being told by an investigative journalists decade after the fact.
>>7303869545 is the best.
>>730405409the no border thing is a very childish look at the real complexity of the reasons why we have borders, is the same thing why your fucking house has a door
>>730403865AOA limiter is from Project Wingman.
>>7303869542 because it’s the first one I played.
>>730386954AC2. The soundtrack is goated.
3 JP version with the English patch.Has one of my favourite soundtracks, atmosphere and story in the series.
>>730386954Ace Combat 5. It was the soundtrack that introduced me to it and the rest of the series.
Have (you) played an AC clone that plays surprisingly close to it's source material?
*dodges all of your missiles 100% while a sick sad violin solo plays in the background*What's your response?
>>730386954Ace Combat X is objectively the third best Ace Combat game, behind 2 and 0.
>>730425202I like it. I give it a 8/10. I like the part where missions you already completed may affect future missions on the map. The jammer mission is fucking brutal. You have to manually spot those hidden power stations by following power lines on your tiny ass PSP screen. I also experience enemies sometimes clipping through mountains for some reason lmao.
>>730397076It's good but it feels like a remix of all the previous ones, not bringing much new things to the table.
>>730397076Do you have experience in flight sims in any shape or form? If not, then choose normal controls.
>>730426223Do the opposite of this.
>>730397076use expert controls>>730426223standard controls literally make the game harder, what the fuck are you talking about? expert controls give you full control over the plane while standard cucks you into four directions.
>>730426223No, standard makes the game harder for imposing restrictions on flying. It makes flying out of the space eevator much harder than need be
>>730387081There's no science beyond what we have that retains aircraft - manned ones, at that - as a concept. Space warfare comes after, and that stuff requires some serious autism to grasp, and isn't really that exciting (imagine month-long engagements, coasting to your death over weeks, or for that matter, sudden engagements that are over in less than a second, largely carried out by autonomous systems. it's stuff that will never make a good game if you retain the hard science part of science fiction.
ace combat is to dcs what call of duty is to ARMA. I know enough about military aviation that action-movie nonsense does more to annoy me than give me enjoyment.
>>730427427ace combat games are just mecha animes with planes instead of robots
Ace Combat 5 for being one of my favorite roller coaster rides in all of video games. The way the story, characters, music and presentation all come together plays me like a damn fiddle. It's not often a game has me that invested, plays my expectations, and has payoff after payoff. I think it also does the best job of being cheesy as all hell but also 'believable.' Kind of like the Metal Gear Solid games but less serious. I'm not sure the best way to describe it.I do love Zero though and its FMV's and variable boss battles. I think I managed to get perfect soldier on my first run so I should replay for the others some time.
>>730428248yeah, but I was told that the early games were more "simulator-like". can you believe that?
i only played the first 3 but the second one was my favorite from those. i liked them all though, they still hold up. and i only played them recently.
>>730386954AC04 has the most grounded setting, interesting worldbuilding and cohesive story structure of all of them. They really tried to make it a sim-like and not an arcade style plane game like the older titles. Plus splitting the narrative between you the fighter pilot and the kid in the cutscenes, and keeping both plots separate until the end, was a very smart move.Every subsequent game has ramped up the anime kiddie nonsense and has been worse for it, even though gameplay and graphics have improved. They're even afraid to include as much real world fighter jargon during the missions, probably to avoid confusing the little kids. Zero is interesting as an unintentional critique of anarchism but 5,6, and 7 were just awfully schlock stories.
>>7303869545 and it's not close. By far the best story, best missions, best moments, best OST. The entire ending arc is so fucking cool with the ark bird, falling satellite, that one mission with the fleet and where everyone starts singing in unison...People keep saying Zero but it was one of the worst for me; story was incredibly flat and unoriginal, missions were really boring, the morality system felt tacked on... The spanish guitars and documentary style were great but you can get that vibe without even playing the game.
Shattered Skies is my favorite. There is an argument to be made for Zero, but I will not accept Unsung War as being an answer for the best one. While good and I recommend playing it, the story is garbage weeb shit and there are too many awful fucking missions that make it unreplayable. Shattered Skies has one of the best told stories in a video game ever, awesome fucking music, and doesn't overstay its welcome. Zero's story isn't as good, but it has some really unique presentation and excellent gameplay moments like Excalibur, the nuke, the duel, and so on. You should still absolutely play Unsung War because it contextualizes Zero.
>>730433528Shattered Skies is good and all but the story isn't anything special, it's very simple with not a ton going on. Nor is it particularly unique. Great game and story don't get me wrong. Though idk why you're complaining about weebshit given how that game ends.Also no game tops Zero for weebshit, for the final boss you're jousting in planes while Pixy recites absolute fucking nonsense about borders to you. That said, Pixy is the only good part of that game.
Ace combat 6The whole Emmeria Air Force gang was something special.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaN6DfrrMi4
>>730433528I think it really comes down to what you value in an Ace Combat game. 5 has its 'whatever' missions that are admittedly kind of gimmicky and can be a slog to (re)play if you're purely focused on gameplay, but I think they serve the narrative and experience the story is trying to deliver quite well. It's Metal Gear-tier insanity but it does a great job at twisting the player's expectations. 4 is kind of anemic when it comes to character/grand story but has great missions and its kind of storybook presentation has a great charm and is easily digestible. Zero's presentation is maximum cheese with its (awesome) FMV's and is great for replays with the whole Knight/Soldier/Mercenary system changing which fights you encounter and end cutscenes. As another anon said, Pixy is the best part about the story. I personally can't remember many beats from it, but I sure as hell remember jet-jousting that pseudo intellectual dipshit and then him becoming a ground soldier to "find out what borders really mean, and what their volition is," whatever the fuck that is supposed to mean. It's all rule of cool nonsense without any writing to back it up, which is not a complaint. Depending on what you value, that's even better since there's no 'story' missions to get in the way of things.Then if you like great gameplay, pretty graphics and Marvel movie-esque "remember this thing??" cameo's you go for Ace Combat 7.Ace Combat has a place for all of us.
Did the trailer for Ace Combat 8 remind anyone of Top Gun: Maverick? Mainly the shots with the pilots in their jets with the crazy helmets.
They seriously need to stop bringing in Katabuchi as a writer. I don't even dislike his anime work (Black Lagoon is peak) but his writing does not translate well to video game narratives. It says everything that the game with the best story, Zero, didn't even have a lead story writer: the story was just something the devs came up with to further the gameplay, and the only credited writers were for the in-mission radio scripts.
>>730433528>shattered skies Anyways here’s John Williams laying down some kino https://youtube.com/watch?v=wYJ6fSr-on4&list=RDwYJ6fSr-on4&start_radio=1&pp=ygULTGEgY2F0ZWRyYWygBwHSBwkJTQoBhyohjO8%3D
>>730440574>the game with the best story, Zero
Why the fuck did AC7 put yaw on the shoulder buttons instead of the triggers?
>>730408705Blaze and Cipher are on the same level for me, since the Razgriz song(s) implies thatBut the major difference between both of them and Mobius and Trigger is that they were attached to the figure of Razgriz, a preexisting entity / symbol that does the wild shit, like becoming a demon or a hero while both Mobius and Trigger were the symbols themselves.Now if we put Yellow13 and Mihaly at the same level, and then the drones were also at the same level as Mihaly, then Trigger shot down 2 Mihaly's which is equal to two Yellow13s...?So probably Trigger :^)
>>730442760Because that's how it should beAccelerate/decelerate being on triggers is how every single game with a vehicle does itI even rebind my controls for old AC's to have yaw on r1/l1 and accel/deaccel on r2/l2 because its just right
>>730442760Accelerate/decelerate is analog since 6 IIRC.
>>730433528That's funny because I just played 4-5-0 for the first time back to back, and I already don't remember a single thing from 4 because of how unmemorable everything in that game is5>0>>>4
>>730408705mobius already won
>which venereal disease is your favourite
>>7303869545, I liked that it wasn't really just a straightforward "enemy captured 90% of our land, blow them up"
>>730442891Mobius 1 canonically flew solo so he went toe to toe with basically Sol Squadron at the time by himself. Trigger has a squad and sometimes a wingman most of the time. Even if they we're almost useless leading up to the end they were meat shields and drew aggro for Trigger. I'm not belittling Trigger but Mobius 1 is just built different.
>>730407837Henge'd
>>730424436No, I just had some crazy faps to the character designs.
>>730427427>I know enough about military aviation that action-movie nonsense does more to annoy me than-*farts all over you*
Razgriz a cute
>>730431683>They're even afraid to include as much real world fighter jargon during the missionsthis is one part i do agree with, going back to ac4 it's surprising hearing the chatter. i had no idea what the hell a 'winchester no joy bogey cope at angels 3' was
>>730440378>crazy helmetsWhere the fuck is that image of all the goofy custom helmets from Air Combat's plane-specific wingmen I saw it 20 goddamn times when I didn't need it
>>730386954I played through the Japanese version of Electrosphere recently. Absolutely fantastic, even given its age. Shame rising development costs and development cycle lengths will mean we never get anything as ambitious again
>>730387140>>730402423The Battlestar Galactica mod fucking slaps.For one reason: there's an inertial drift lock feature thing that lets you do shit like the vipers in the show, being able to flip your fighter over and shoot backwards and shit.I bound it to whatever the gay paddle is called on the back of my throttle and it was some of the most fun I've ever had in a flight sim.(plus BSG engagements are obviously, as the kids say, kino)
>>730386954>all these Zero answersYou know considering how popular it is and how contrarian /v/ tends to be, it's surprising to see so many people in agreement.Either it's really that so good (which is true) or AC fans are non-schizo honest people (which is also true).
>>730443794I'm not saying that you aren't allowed to enjoy it, but it's like star wars. Only I can't turn off my brain and just look at the magicians with laser swords doing cool choreography because it's trying to pretend to be real life. It's pretending hard enough that it's annoying when it fails so miserably. Nobody wants to hear your life story on net during combat, emcon means enemies AND friendlies don't know where you are, autocannons don't evaporate after a set distance... There are a lot of strange, unnecessary choices in the series that could just as well have not been made. The reality is that it was made by a bunch of japanese geeks with weird ideas and no real desire to emulate reality outside of aesthetics. It's okay to admit that you're a fucking geek, lol.>>730443904guess I'm downloading AC4
>>730446985You're too autistic for video games. Go enlist and die for Israel.
>>730447071You don't have a job.
>>730447178I have a job and a life that allows me to accept fiction as fiction and not shit myself because the funny Japs made a soap opera in jet planes. Inability to view fiction through the lens of make-believe ("who pumps the batmobile's tires?") is a sign of autism. Have you been diagnosed yet, anon?
>>730446985>Only I can't turn off my brain and just look at the magicians with laser swords doing cool choreography because it's trying to pretend to be real life. It's pretending hard enough that it's annoying when it fails so miserably.Suspension of disbelief differs from person to person, and yours is weak.>guess I'm downloading AC4Unironically do, it's up your alley and its unique in that sense. I wish they kept some of its edge instead of leaning heavily on the anime side from AC5 onwards.
>>730446985You’re a schizophrenic faggot who’s going to kill themself
>>730386954Gotta be Zero for me too. Phenomenal soundtrack and story. Don't have much to add that hasn't been said by other anons. Its just an endlessly replayable classic.>>730446643>You know considering how popular it is and how contrarian /v/ tends to be, it's surprising to see so many people in agreement.first time I'm seeing this happen on this shithole of a board. Its a nice feeling.
I'm genuinely fascinated by the turbo autist that has an inmense, seething hate for 6 ITT.
>>730446643>>730447421You guys realize zero is the contrarian choice right, and the contrarian among contrarians choice is 3/6/7 right. You’re basic bitch level contrarians
>>730447301I'm not saying you're not allowed to enjoy your soap opera but I am saying that you are a soap opera enjoyer. And then you get mad and insult me and type up a storm.>>730447410You use "anime" pejoratively here. I think you actually understand what I mean.
smells like DCSfag and trolls trolling trollspost planefu
>>730447695>I’m saying That’s the crux of the issue. No one wants to hear or see you say anything. Even you’re parents are just waiting for you to off yourself
>>730446985what games do you play, anon?
>>730447695I do because I have the same "I just can't enjoy it" feeling towards other franchises. Same reason why I can't get into Girls und Panzer for instance but I'd gladly consoom something else that's even more fantastical.In fact I think I did towards Ace Combat at one point, partly sour grapes because I never had the chance to play them as a kid but also because I thought it would be too anime-ish. Eventually I just gave in and enjoyed it, some titles more than others.
>>730448038? He doesn't have time to play videogames
>>730387081this but I want ww2 warbirds>inb4 blazing angels
>>730447995>>730448038>>730448256lol you guys need to coordinate better, you're now arguing about how to argue with me>>730448042I would have enjoyed the shit out of these as a kid, and I'm hoping that AC4 will be more enjoyable because I fucking love the PS2.
>>7303869545, easilyLove BlazeLove EdgeLove Chopperkys GrimmLove CUM HISTORIALove CLIMB NUGGETS CLIMBLove The Journey Home
>>730449107okay but what games do you play, anon
>>730449059Ok I forgot >skycrawlers since I didn't read the thread, but ww2 era strangereal would be cool.
>>730449059There's Heroes of the Pacific and Heroes Over Europe. I had the former but not the latter.>>730449107>I'm hoping that AC4 will be more enjoyableHave fun!You can also get ACX on the PSP as that's close to AC4 thematically. Same applies to Air Combat and AC2 on the PS1, but they're archaic (the latter has a 3DS remake as Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy) and there's no real "story" besides the plot of the campaign as it progresses, which may be a plus for you.If you eventually want to dip your toes into the "anime side" for whatever reason then try out AC0 because the usual anime tropes may be imperceptible.>I would have enjoyed the shit out of these as a kidIronically as a kid I had Heatseekers instead of Ace Combat, which is as "real" as it gets for an arcade aerial combat game, hence why I was jealous of those who did play AC in their childhood lol.
Never played a keyboard and mouse flight sim.But i do have it in VR. And now i dont think i want to use keyboard and mouse.
>>730450256None of these games are really meant to be played with keyboard and mouse. I've been playing with HOTAS, in VR.
Is Nuclear option a good game?
>>7304056843 is so overrated
>>730402423>Blue PlanetEh...I liked the first one, but the sequel was such a grimdark edgefest that seemed determined to spit on everything I liked in the first one. And the special forces gimmick missions were frustrating as fuck.
>>7304505273 being held back by the lack of translation and "emulation = piracy" boogeyman ensures it is underrated.
>>730405610Yes, but before you can buy them, you have to unlock the ability to buy them by grinding kills, which is annoying. I also didn't like how every plane only had one special weapon, forcing you to unlock and buy entirely new planes just to get different weapons. 4 and 0 had much better systems.I still like 5 though. Everything else about it is good.
Ace Combat 7
>>730449107Argue? There is no argument. You’re a retarded faggot who’s going to kill themselves
>>730450527boomers like their 30fps weebslop instead of 60fps ludokinos
>>730452285it's hailed by the pure contrarian. its le friggin aesthetic
They're literally all the same bro lol just pick one
>>730445926Wing Commander Saga has that maneuver too, but only for two of the fighters you can fly.
>>730388415its neat but the subreddt is particularly trannyfilled
>>730449059>>730449629Apparently, as this was announced in the Project Wingman subreddit, there's a guy making a WW2 like ace combat.https://bova-fett.itch.io/final-flight-mission-interceptHere's the public build so far.Also there's another team making a ace combat-like game but with you piloting airships instead of jets (pic is concept art of that game).
>>730388415I like it more than ace combatjust stick to single seatersprez is mega cringe
>>730454517I blame the devs for allowing these vermin fester in with their stupid shitposts being treated as gospelHow do you recover after the writer made said yes to the "Kings was Gay Sex" shitpost
HAWX2 because in that game different planes actually handle differently and you don't have 100 magic all-purpose missiles so you have to actually think about your loadout for a mission.>but muh storyRead a book or watch a movie and KYS.
>>730454132>Wing Commander Sagathanks anon, I forgot to ever try that onei think the BSG mod only has it on two fighters too. but that is because there are only two kinds of viper for you to fly because it is battlestar galacticaI can think of a couple other space combat games with this mechanic too but they aren't really flight sims. It's usually pretty stupid and ignorable.Turns out it rules in dogfights where you have full control, though.
>>730456007hawx tuah
>>730456007New bait material just dropped Mobius 1
>>730455592If you didn't use the Tomcat throughout the game you're cringe.Frogfoot is acceptable on ground attack missions.
>>730454517Ace combat has tranny mods on theres, you just have to look at their post history. Reddit is tranny central
>>730456464>Reddit is tranny centrali dont disagree, thats why i said particularly. its in the banners and pinned post
>>730456392>F14>creaking and shaking at the slightest G pull>annoying bitch screaming at you and cringe chungus dialoge>terrible visibility>no AOA limiterew, take that pig away from me
>>730454517Hope you ain't looking inside their discord serverShit is bad
>>730454517What subreddit isn't at this point?
>>730456541>>730456879
>>730456571i just lurk the discord for the artfags who post there, i ain't interacting with these faggots
>>730456157Nice cope. I, too, love to fly with my face glued to the HUD.
>>730450467Yes
>>730454517>
>>730386954After a few years of consideration I have to say Zero or 7. 7 has the most polish out of any of the games and the soundtrack overall is basically a smorgasbord of kino but Zero has better highs in music, the story is actually fucking great and one of the few that nails character, message, vibe and presentation all in one, and the actual gameplay is just a refined version of Ace Combat's PS2 gameplay. Like I feel there's a good reason a fair share of Ace Combat memes stem from Zero.
>>730457658i physically recoiled
>>730457658>crimson 1's live reaction to these people:
>>730404810i've been playing the trinity over the last week, i finished 4 and 5 and now i'm on to 0, i kinda don't get why people rank 4 so high. i'm a gameplay guy and 4 sucks in comparison to the others, dogfighting is ass with slow missles and lock-on, and i felt the mobility of all the planes was really poor. as soon as i started 5 i thought "holy shit that is so much better, oh my god", 4 felt like it was taking place underwater in comparison the story was pretty neat showing the war from an outside perspective but i didn't feel there was much to say about the missions themselves, if there's a bunch of "you gotta read between the lines" stuff then that's kinda stupid. i like 5 being more direct in it's events even if all the dialogue is so fucking corny and dumb
>>730431683>Zero is interesting as an unintentional critique of anarchismClose but not quite, it's an intentional critique of extremism (also dressed up as a critique of AC5), which happens to include anarchism.
>>730457981I fully get the feeling of maneuvering in 4, I thought it was really fucking sluggish a long way through which didn't help me enjoy it a ways through. I feel like that feeling disappears once you get the F-22, but at that point you're already in Farbanti so you don't get to enjoy it more without a replay.
>>730457658>game is all about kings and royalty>"actually monarch is gender neutral callsign so xe's a they/them"hard to believe the game was developed by /aceg/ fags given its current state
>>730457789it's even more kino when you remember it was a b-team game
>PWfags are tranniesthat explains so much
>>730409084Meh, I appreciate 4 for recontextualizing Mobius as some savior for the world as the Eruseans try to bring down the remains of Ulysses on everyone but Zero feels much more personal than Agnus Dei. Not only does it borrow its lyrics from the first game but the whole story dresses up Pixy as essentially your mirror, it perfectly contains not only the themes of the story but encapsulates the journey you went on and how you went from bringing death and destruction to ending it and how Pixy believes he's doing the same thing.
>>730457981>>730458092to be fair 4 starts in an F-4 which is absolutely a very fast missile that turns once a month and never went you want it to. i miss when the series could have stuff like that while late game F-22s and Su-37s could turn on a dime, instead of everything having high g turns and post stall maneuvers all the way down to the fucking A-10
>>730457981you'd HATE 3
>>730386954DCS
>>730458391Fair assessment. I just wish the curve of improvement was better in AC4, it genuinely felt like I had to wait until I got the F-22 in order to be the hero I wanted to be but at that point the game's pretty much ending and the challenges are kind of lessened because they don't scale neatly to match you.
>>730458391is here any real benefit to not having high mobility? should there be more planes that just go fast in a straight line just so we can appreciate the ones that can actually dogfight more? that'd be dumb as hell, having every plane be something you can actually use sounds way better on a gameplay front
>>7304579815 has critical gameplay flaws and the dialogue is terrible. 4 and Zero are both much better.
>>730458607what's a gameplay flaw in 5 then? it felt pretty good to me, at least once i got higher mobility planes
>>730458558NTA but it's completely fair if all you're asking for is a better balance. Kind of wish these games received more mods now that PCSX2 is so good, maybe rebalancing mods could be attempted.
>>730458558it works if the gameplay allows for it, but AC games heavily favor turn fighting and close engagement and not the kind of zoom and boom stuff that a phantom was at home with. still, i just want some variety and less silly press both triggers to turn 180 degrees stuff
>>730458928I've always kind of dreamed of a game that focused heavily on impossible maneuvers like the turn 180 degrees stuff, except it'd be stuff like rolling to the side like a Banshee in Halo and the like too so you can actually go all out with the anime bullshit. PW is only halfway there. Obviously I don't think AC should do that, but I'd definitely pay for a good clone that tries it.
>>730455495>https://bova-fett.itch.io/final-flight-mission-interceptEh, it's neat. Definitely barebones but at least it's fun. Looking forward for the airship captain one though, I always wanted to play as one of those flying fortresses you take down so much in Ace Combat games.
>no cockpit viewoverrated franchise
>>730459537anon like every game in the series has a cockpit view button
>>730459537what
>>730459537?is this a sexual euphemism?
>>730459586>>730459591>>730459624The only one I played is 7 and I didn't see an option for it
>>730459537>>730459669>smartest /v/ frogposter
>>730459669it's in 7 too you dopehit all your buttons doofus
>>730459537>>730459669>bait with 3 replies within 90 secondsimpressive
>>730426223standard controls literally ruin the game. AC7 is meant to played cockpit with an FOV mod on expert controls. Everything else is a vastly inferior experience
>>730460107AC7 default cockpit fov is a lot better than the ps2 games at least
>>730426223Don’t do this. Those faggot controls are why I dropped many arcade flight sims. AC having proper flight controls is partly why I like it.
>>730429762I really don't know what you expected. Ace Combat began as an arcade game.
i thought it was cool in the games with cockpit view and COFFIN planes that the 'cockpit' view is just the normal floater first person view with a slight video filter on it, because the pilot normally sees a 360 degree view anyway thanks to the interface
>>730429762That's only cause they have slower turning and shit outside of AC2 and Air Combat.The only game in this series that might be called a simulator is Air Combat 22, the fucking arcade machine. But even then it's still an arcade machine.
Ace Combat 4 is kino of the highest degree
Do you think Ace Combat 8 will do anything with VR?
>>730464075I hope so, but I fear sony would moneyhat its exclusivity to their format.
>>730464168Well the good news is that Sony isn't moneyhatting anything VR anymore. They gave up on PSVR2 entirely. Capcom just came out and said no VR for RE9 because Sony's not paying for it.Bad news is that Sony isn't moneyhatting it anymore. So Bamco might not even bother.
>>730464262Ah well. If it's on UE5, as they've said, someone could likely do that UE5VR mod thing without too much hassle.
>>730464262>Capcom just came out and said no VR for RE9
>>730464262i hope valve somehow manages to revive it on PC with the Frame and that we get support for it but it's probably a pipe dream
>>730464378Yeah praydog has been god's gift to VR.It's so annoying that all of the major Japanese publishers are super invested in VR stuff, but only for arcade games and location experiences.>>730464531I'm sorry you had to find out this way.
>>730464641>It's so annoying that all of the major Japanese publishers are super invested in VR stuff, but only for arcade games and location experiences.It's the only way they can do it in countries in Japan because probably most of the people who would be interested don't have the space for VR at home.
>>730464641I'm mean, if it was only RE9 or AC8 it would be "fine", but both of them and future games is just a double whammy straight to the balls wtf
>>730464779God, I love French girls.
sorry, there's people who... root... for belk*ns?
>>730464779jet planes are so fucking cool, anons
>>730464962
>>730464765I think most of those arcade games are seated. I figured they'd do more of that.Though as an anecdotal experience, there are a surprising amount of Japanese players in VR FPS games.
>>730464991Yes.
GOD BLESS AURELIA
>>730420501I have better things to do than think about bad games
>>730424436This game's character art is so strange. Yes I know it was done by a hentai artist.
>>730465391I'm sorry, I wrote "strange" but meant to type "effective at making me want to have sex with blonde haired big tittied tan women."
>>730447468Go dance with the angels, mister
>>730465531hahaha The girls are cute, but the rage face the mechanic makes when I crash his plane, or John Rundal when he rages, or the zesty overweight black man....Nah dude, it's kind of a bad vibe
but why would you build something like this
>>730466264why would you name it "Fortress Intolerance"
>>730387081Ace-Combat 7?
>>730466264There was a was an asteroid coming to collide with the planetAnd they built weapons to destroy it
>mfw AC8 ends with the 8 getting cut in half to form a 3>"The research on Sublimation has started"
>>730467586What is 9 but 3^2?
>>730467727You might even say 3 X 3.
>>730467586>The concept of sublimation was first conceived by Yoko Martha Inoue, a General Resource Limited researcher, in 2029. She researched the concept for a year, culminating in Yoko performing a sublimation test on her lover, Abyssal Dision, in June 2030.>WoT takes place in 2029Would be cool if Yoko or Dision appear but not even as an easter egg but actual characters
>>730467995Does this mean no kino battles? I know that in most ACs you are just a fucking murder machine carrying the entire war, but one of the things I loved of the other games was the fact that you were part of an army that also tries to fight back
die female
>>730467586>AC8 ends with the 8 getting cut in half to form a 3That sounds dangerously kino. I don't think the world would be ready for it
>>730468435god i wish i was kitten's backseater, if you know what i mean
>>730456556You are a gay retard with shit skills.Keep your gay mongoloid hands off my game.
>>730467995This chap in the trailer has similar sandy hair to Dision.
>>730386954ZeroI like the ace branching system
>prime Yuktobanian pussy as your wingman>>730468607And a beard too
>>730464991Its like cheering for the disabled kid.Half of it is pity, the other cause its hilarious.
>>730468607>>730468772its either him or tabloid
>>730467995>Martha was namedropped as Dr. Belkapedo's assistant>English localization fucked it up and called her "Massa"
But is AC8 going to give voice to the WSOs and RIOs we drag into the sky with us?
>>730469026I'm going to assume so given you start out the game as one.
>>730386954Zero, the ability to instantly lock on what you're aiming at with the analog stick
>>730468601>says man with a fat trans hog in his backseat of his ugly ass plane
>>730449629mosquito my beloved
>>730469070holy fuck the boresight button is great and i can't stand that they never brought it backAC7 needed it so badly with the clouds of drones
How did not-Aussies get a hold of so many next-gen crafts? is Grunder doing some /x/ stuff there?
>>7303869544. the others are too story focused when the story is utter dogshit. it could work but they should hire some actual writers before attempting it
So is wesker's assistant in 7 confirmed to be Martha from 3? Or is that just the wiki writing fanfiction?
>>730405684Electrosphere is a even bigger movie game than 5 and that's saying something.>le fiddy missionsAnd half of them last less than 5 minutes
>>730469257the JP voiceover calls her Martha
>>730469070>>730469125No wayYou mean if you're looking at something behind you with the right stick and if you press R3 it will target it?
>>730469358aaah okay, I did not know that thanks anon.
>>730469257The updated Aces At War confirmed that it's supposed to be her, and in addition Simon was also working with them."Massa" is the closest Japanese approximation of "Martha" so it was just the localizers being unfamiliar with the series (and thus incompetent).
Cipher did it again!
Is there a decent way to play 6?
>>730469803Xbone + disc
>>730469078>flanker fagYou are pathetic genuine short bus rider. Dont forget your 'flight helmet', idiot.
>>730470312t.mad because his piece of shit boat cant do sick manouverslet me guess, you use flares?tell the truth, you only fly double seaters because you want to have that bitch screaming in your ear
The games made me fall in love with this lil guy
>>730470494it's a cool duck, glad it's getting sales again
>>730427291>tfw you will never hide behind the moon of a gas giant waiting for the perfect moment to launch an RKV at a colonial cruiser 5 AU away before burning full speed in a random direction that doesn't put you deeper into the gravity well because the retaliatory shot from his convoy will be charging up the x-ray lasers the moment they register the shot a split second before the hyperkinetic missile blasts their command ship in half.
>>730470494>tfw I used to drive a SAAB I fucking loved this thing, and it really did feel like a car made by aircraft manufacturers. Your ears would almost pop when you closed the door because it was so air-tight, and I lived in the midwest, so it was great in winter since its engineered to be optimized at 0 degrees. My mechanic specialized in SAAB's and he had a bunch of old ones on his lot that were cool as shit to go look at because they looked like they were made out of spare airplane parts. For as much shit as I like to give yuropoors, i like their planes.
>>730386954I have a soft spot for 4 I can't really explain, but overall 6 "felt" the best to me. Loved the allied command whatever it was called and the branching mission paths.
>>730471161Children of a Dead Earth taught me space combat is very boring and then you get a solid intercept set up, plan on your attack for like 3 hours and then you die in a flyby because you made metal too hot
>>730471484>spend a significant portion of the second book explaining how interstellar combat is boring and engagement is from the edge of solar systems >second half of that plot is about how the other guys didn't get the memo and fuck you it turns into a knife fight in a phone booth with kilometer long shit-kickers blasting point blank broadsides at each other and smaller ships dog fighting in space
>>730470494
>>730472149>power lines >a jet Its like a video of a chinese person about to step on an escalator
>>730472343Highways are designed for that. If you fall onto the power lines then that's a skill issue on your part.
>>730472343I wouldn't worry about it.
>>730464991NYeso
What did they mean by this?
>>730472419The first plane trip I can remember taking was out of John Wayne airport in orange county, which has a big apartment building right at the end of the runway, and city ordinances mean they can't blast their engines over the city. So the takeoff is really short, and really steep, and it feels like you just barely miss the building. Then they blast the engines, rocket up, and turn off the engines, bleeding off height for speed to make a sharp u-turn to go over the river where it can begin climbing. I also had a chance to land at kai tek before it was retired, and that landing goes right into the city, and you're watching buildings rushing up on every side, and the landing pattern is at about a 45 degree angle to the runway, so right before its time to touch down, the pilot has to dorifto the plane so its headed down the runway, and even if you landed safely, there was still a non-zero chance that the pilot over shot the landing just a little, and the plane rolls off the end of the runway to belly flop in the harbor.
>>730469070>>730469125I just tested it and it doesn't work. R3 changes camera and using the stick to look around at any point doesn't lock on any target.You must look at a target in front of you then press triangle to lock onto it.
>>730473168it's L3it's in the manual and i'm pretty sure a tutorial
>>730473168>You must look at a target in front of you then press triangle to lock onto it.You can lock onto any target. Its really useful in a dogfight so you can just do a quick headcheck to see if the guy is over or under your left or right shoulder. Good for clouds, or guys running from the sun.
>>730473350>>730473627Well damn, you learn something every day. I activated it a few times in the past by accident but didn't know what it was for.>it's in the manualEmulated>>and i'm pretty sure a tutorialI never played them since AC4, and even then it was half-hearted because I had experience from Air Combat, AC2, and AC3 lol
>>730473350wait AC has tutorials?
>>730473882For better or worse AC has never been a series to really tutorialize. Like I don't think in 6 or 7 you're ever told that you can do a PSM in certain plains until you do one by accident. You see planes do it in cutscenes, but its perfectly reasonable for anyone to assume that's because its a cut scene. >tfw going from mach-infinity to zero in 2 second while your tail overshoots you and you keep the nose up just long enough to get a lock with your ADMM macross missile spam pod and ruining sixyniggers days in the blink of an eye <<DRIVE, DRIVE>>
>>730474429i don't think i've ever done a PSM, i assume it's something that just happens to other pilotsit can only be done by *some* planes without the game telling you which ones?
>>730475080When you're going high speed, pull the air break hard and pull the nose up the plane up. You'll know it works when the plane kind of lifts itself up the rest of the way, then you put the nose back down. Some of the planes will go all the way back around. If you have a laser weapon and are a bad enough dude, you can slice through multiple enemies. Shits pretty cash. Also bump limit. RIP ace combat thread
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