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Since we're only allowed 1 thread about Trails per month I decided to make one now, considering Horizon launches in a few days.

What's your favorite Trails game?
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>>730412409
I consider from Zero to be my play-any-time game. I always seem to gravitate towards it once or twice a year.
Hoping Horizon will be better than Daybreak.
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>What's your favorite Trails game?
>Sky 1 > DB1 >= Sky 2 > Zero > CS1 >= Azure > CS3 > Reverie > CS4 > CS2 >>> DB2 > Sky 3
I have never understood this board's fascination with Sky 3. Beyond some pretty memorable 2D artwork it was the lamest sidestory ever.
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tuff thread
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>>730412580
/v/ is a Kevin board
please consider suicide
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Cold Steel 4. Every game has glaring problems whether it be plot or gameplay related, but I enjoyed every single minute of the bloat fest that is Cold Steel 4. I also really enjoy the mecha fights and Cold Steel 4 perfected them.
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>>730412807
>cont
Forgot to mention that CS4 was the latest game I played. Reverie looks pretty good as well.
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>>730412409

I just got into the series with the Sky remake and am eagerly awaiting playing Sky SC. I hope they do remakes for at least the remaining 2D games.
You guys were right to warn me about the pace though, these games are fucking glacial. I legitimately thought I was doing something wrong, accidentally skipping plot, or missing key story scenes or something when playing the Sky, only to be told that there was nothing missing. It's just that slow.

Totally worth it though!
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>>730412409
You nogs have been spamming Fails threads daily for a week now. Probably another one active right now.
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>>730412580
>DB1
>second favorite
Big oof. It's irredeemably bad.
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>>730412956
What are you on about? DB1's cast alone is so good it practically makes the games before it, especially the CS arc, look like the writers were asleep. Van has more personality than the entire cast of Cold Steel put together.
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>>730412580
Sky 3 played well but was just a series of combat corridors and the story was a fever dream.
I need to get back into the series now that the two PSP games were released; was waiting on them before going to Cold Steel.
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>>730413046
Bro, the characters in DB are the same dull piles of anime tropes as the ones from CS.
>i love sweets and i love cars and i'm morally gray bro
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>>730412409
>favorite Trails game?
Cold Steel 1 was what introduced me to the series on the PS3 so it'll always have a special place in my heart. Hahaman is the best self-insert protagonist I think I've ever seen in a JRPG. The perfect blend of character + shell for the player to project onto. People underestimate how hard it is to make a GOOD character to project onto and Cold Steel nails that. In terms of characters that behave like actual people Estelle, Lloyd and Van all shine beyond Rean.

If I was to pick a game, without the nostalgia for Cold Steel, it'd probably be Reverie. Rufus was my favorite antagonist and the bad-guy-turned-good-guy is an underutilized trope.
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>>730412409
i haven't played anything but the remakes yet
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>>730412409
There's three active trails thread rn faggot. Anyways my favorite Sky 2.
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>>730412409
My favorite is Azure. No idea why people seem to suck off Zero so much when Azure is far superior.
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>>730412902
Kek, this series needs all the pajeets they can get to advertise the games.
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>>730412409
>What's your favorite Trails game?
Cold Steel 1 is the best game in the franchise
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>>730412409
daybreak 1 was amazing
daybreak 2 falls off a fucking mountain
horizon might be good tho
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>>730414429
It's another sequel to this shit so no wonder it's failing.
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>>730412409
I really liked Sky 3, although it felt so out of place for trails I almost wish they'd have made it a full on side game instead of a mainline one. Never felt like it was suppose to be mainline.
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>>730414670
Daybreak 2 suffered heavily from Falcom prioritizing Ys X during that time. They should try to balance this shit better, even if it means the games coming out a little slower. There was like no time between Daybreak 1 and 2 and no one really wants them to rush these games..
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Why do you people play this slop when games like Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth exists?
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>the guy with glasses was the mastermind all along
gee what a huge fucking surprise who would have guessed that the guy with glasses voiced by lelouch from code geass could be behind everything
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>>730412580
3rd has almost no fat, the coolest protag, is up there for the best combat, has the best music and the doors have well written short stories that provide build-up for future arcs and payoffs for neglected characters and story beats. It's just a really satisfying game.

When they remake 3rd (I really don't think they're gonna skip it, I think people are blowing that interview out of proportion) I will probably skip the first 2 remakes and just play that, provided they don't censor it.
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>>730415763
playing 3rd is a mistake because it tricks into thinking the series is going to be good and well written
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>>730415660
but he waited 3 games to do anything!
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>>730412409
sky 2

>>730415408
kys
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I honestly think Trails has a lot in common with FFXIV, including the glacial pacing with occasional amazing payoffs, the anachronism creep, the refusal to let some characters die, the gradual decline etc
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>>730415763
The 3rd is a fucking drag and until you get to the interesting bits you've put up with mind blowingly boring content.
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>>730416583
That sounds like literally every Trails game
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>>730412580
I personally think CS2 isn't as low as people make it out to be,
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>>730413331
same
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>>730415408
>Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth
Why would I play that when E33 exists
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>>730415660
haha, that's just how trails rolls
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>>730416728
it is lol, even the first games are like that, and crossbell might as well be the filler from naruto
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>>730412580
3rd is definitely overrated, I get why people love some of the writing but the whole thing is pretty convoluted and the gameplay in Sky is not good enough for a focused dungeon crawler.
Sky SC > Azure > DB1 > Sky FC > Zero > Horizon > 3rd > DB2 > CS3 > Reverie > CS1 > CS2 > CS4
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>>730416583
>The 3rd is a fucking drag
Huh? Isn't the 3rd like the shortest game in the whole series?
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>>730412409
I've played every game in the series, even the time wasters like CS 4.5.

I dropped DB2 really early because it wasn't working for me
>oh no
>retarded death
>immediately undone

That said I feel like I can't play Horizon until I finish DB", I know you don't *have* to, but these games are all about the little moments you'd miss if you just watched a YouTube recap.
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>>730416405
That 'glacial pacing' you zoomers are talking about is mostly character work (some is padding).
The lack of character building is why there are no franchises like there used to be, there is no time to breathe and grow to enjoy characters anymore.
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>>730412580
Currently up to CS4, my rating would be
3rd > CS3 > SC > Zero > CS1 > FC > Ao > CSII
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>>730417424
there are two characters now in trails man


>smug joker
>kind person

that's it
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I've never gotten past CS2. So I'm redoing my series playthrough. Who should I romance, Towa, Alfin, Emma or Sara?
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>>730413331
he's just another Kirito
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>>730417576
Fie she breaks the game, doesn't cause drama and just wants pats
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>>730415584
People should draw more actual art of that outfit swap.
Especially Daiwa's fat horsetits barely contained by Estelle's undersized clothes, and Estelle's cute butt in uniform pantsu.
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>>730415408
Final Fantaflop is deader than Trails lmao
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>>730417831
Fie fucks off to Calvard and never returns after Reverie though
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>>730417576
i'm a milk enjoyer so i'd say emma.
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>>730416405
"Anachronism creep" is an actual core theme and important part of the main plot in Trails. In XIV it's just the retarded devs having no vision and doing whatever they think trannies will like.
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>>730417976
Half the cast fuck off after reverie, because none can ever truly be canon due to asian self-insert autism.

That said, I'll never not be laughing at how Alisa went from the 'official' girl to being sent to the cuck chair by altina because Abe told developers to cut the tsundere FMC shit out.
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>>730417341
>CS 4.5
Reverie was one of the best kiseki games and I will fight people over that.
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>>730418110
NTA
I appreciate that this is a people rediscovering super magi-tech and not natural development.
That said, you do not go from pocket watches and old-timey 1920s roadsters to MASS CIVILIAN ADOPTION of iPhone and hilux in 8 years.
If nothing else, the tooling and infrastructure wouldn't be there.

Practical arguments aside I prefer Sky's 90s stye medieval magi-tech aesthetic more than the 'modern' setting of crossbell and calvard.
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>>730415408
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>>730418346
>alternate universe matrix bro (no, this isn't speterrion shenanigans, just bullshit)
>the entire cast of multiple world-saving heroes has to shit their brains out through their assholes so C and his bad of OC doughnut steel knock-offs can be relevant
>in the end maybe the Legend of Heroes: Trails into Cold Steel was the Reans we made along the way.
Kill me.
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>>730418397
I agree that in some ways it's a bit much but it's not widespread, Calvard is the strongest economy and most developed nation at the time of its arc just like Crossbell during its games, that's why those in particular can get away with more, most of the continent is nowhere near that. What I don't like is the retcon-ny feel of Calvard already having had car racing and a movie industry and computers for decades when in Sky/Crossbell those felt super new.
Also if you played Kai and know the major spoilers from that the extent of rapid development seems heavily tied to the "Sin" value that causes the Grand Reset. That and Epstein probably cheated with knowledge from past loops just like the society.
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Is Reverie like 3rd in that it's more of a dungeon crawler with occasional sideplots? Some screenshots I've seen even had a hub world that looks similar to that garden in 3rd
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>>730418397
Shills will defend this with "unlimited" orbal energy and telling you that liberl being left behind is "still consistent".
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>>730412409
trails of subhumans
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>>730418674
no
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What does Renne say when she counters an attack? It kinda sounds like "Ama ama ne" or something, it always sounds very cute
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>>730418735
oh damn, the whole time I thought this was another game where everyone is trapped in some kinda reality bubble again
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>>730419165
3rd is the only one like that
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>>730412409
This game and Daybreak 2 killed my love for Trails. Falcom have lost whatever it is that made this series special. There is just no vision anymore. The signs were there for years but it's only these last two games where it finally dawned on me what a waste of time this series was
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>>730418674
There is a hub and a dungeon but most of the plot happens outside of that. It's definitely 3rd-inspired.
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>>730415192
Horizon had plenty of dev time but the game still feels unsatisfying. Barely any new locations and a story that is just nothing but setup for the 3rd game in a row. Peoples patience has worn out. Falcom need a kick in the ass.
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>>730412580
Probably CS1. I played the Sky games first but I prefer the setting and overall plot of CS1 and 2, if we ignore how thin CS2 was until the end. The social scenes were pretty much just fun little slices of life and didn't make me bored or pissed off like a Persona game does. On average I like the cast more than Sky. The whole industrial revolution setup and the various factions (nobles, capitalists, the central government, the working class) is interesting even if the writers aren't totally capable of dealing with it. Every place you visit is tied to this central conflict in some way whereas Calvard, for instance, every city or town feels unrelated to every other location.
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>>730415408
because rebirth is for retards
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>>730419305
Is it because the technology leap makes no sense?
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>>730418718
Must really have hit home for you.
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>>730412409
probs CS2
i liked the infernal castle and mech combat felt better
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>>730412409
The Cold Steel series will always be my favorite.
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>>730412409
Either Ao or Kuro 1
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>>730412409
Kuro 1 by far, I still have 0 interest in playing the sky remakes
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It's been more then 5 years since I last touched Kiseki ever since waiting for CS3 localization cockblocked me from playing more. What am I in for CS3 and beyond?
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Since Sky 1-2 seem like a "complete" package, I'm waiting for chapter 2 to get a released to start this series.
Not sure I intend going all the way to Coldsteel the Hedgehog, maybe just the crossbell duology.
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>>730412409
>we're only allowed 1 thread about Trails per month
No you can have as many threads as you want as long as you don't spam them constantly and people care about the topic. As far as I know there's no hard limit to any topic as long as you don't flood the board.
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>>730422112
3 more games of Rean wanking, 1 good Calvard game, one filler game, and another 2/3 of a good Calvard game hijacked by Rean and Kevin.
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>>730422316

Don't fucking tell him, we'll get this shit spammed every nanosecond. Does this board really need more JRPG-schizophrenics?
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>>730412409
Agnes!
Agnes!
Agnes!
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>>730422939
I rather want more Jarpigs than more FGCucks.
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>>730423051

That's fair. I think the Shitbirth spammers just have me a little fatigued.
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>>730422316
What about that stupid kirby fairy thread that gets spammed?
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localization status?
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>>730423125
>fatigued
NTA, but aren't we all.
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>>730423051
based
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>>730412409
Trails in the Sky FC is my favourite
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>>730423147
While the "meaning" is still the same, the localization tried to cram too much so it makes her seem like a tryhard.
The casual tone in the japanese is more elegant.
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Well, guess it's time to save the series again...
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I'm on the last chapter of FC remake, and I don't get the hype it fucking sucks. You can see all of the "twists" from a mile away, everyone is fucking incompetent (that first chapter where they let the aky pirates escape 3 times), the characters are one dimensional and once you realize speed is king battles are boring.

Music is great as well as the visuals but that's about it. I can't believe some people talk to EVERY NPC after each time the story advancea. Like ok maybe this was impressive 20 years ago but none of the npcs say anything compelling why would I talk to them?
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Kusoeater
CS > DB > Crossbell > Sky
Misguided
Crossbell > Sky > DB > CS
Enlightened
Sky > Crossbell > CS > DB
Nirvana
Sky > CS > DB > Crossbell
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>>730424426
>You can see all of the "twists" from a mile away
explain the twist of FC you can see coming.
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>>730424439
Anyone with CS anywhere but the bottom is very stupid or started with CS1 when they were a teenager.
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>>730424495
Le funny bard is actually secret spy.
Intelligence divison is le bad guys.
Gray haired guy in intelligence division is le good guy.
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>>730412409
CS1 with my 2nd favourite being CS4 and my 3rd favourite being SC.

>>730412807
Based, CS4 is kino of the highest order.
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>>730424495
>>730424649
Also the minute the mayor in Bose offered to relocate the orphanage lady I knew he was behind burning the orphanage
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>>730424649
only one of those is right, you failed.
also you didn't see "the" twist coming. So you double failed. The ending will filter you.
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>>730417576
Fie until CS3 and then Altina.
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>>730424649
Haha, damn this guy is sharp...
Good thing he's not holding back.
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>>730424495
The better question would be what fucking twists wouldn't you see coming a mile away? Fucking nothing is subtle in Sky.
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>>730423141
idk i just report it every time i see it and hope the unpaid janitorial staff eventually remember that their suppose to be doing in exchange for all that oxygen they inhale
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>>730424916
>maybe if I blatantly lie it will become the truth
Sky is more subtle than your shit bait.
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>>730425065
>jannies
>doing anything
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>>730424786
I can't wait to learn about Joshua's dark past and how Cassius isn't the man they thought he was.
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>>730425173
Least dishonest Skytranny
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>>730425724
I knew it was you cucky, how was Christmas is your family still avoiding you?
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>Skykeks having another meltdown
How's your remake sales looking? Was it the great revival of the franchise you needed it to be?
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>>730425894
>muh x boogieman
Sign of a mentally will adjusted person. I enjoyed spending both my Christmas and New Years with my family thanks for asking. Probably can't say the same for you.
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His asshole did not survive.
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>>730412409
I like the new vtuber gyaru
>OnlyVans
LMAOOOOOOO
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>>730412409
Reverie>3rd>SC>DB1>CSIV>CSII>Azure>DB2>CS>CSIII>Zero>FC
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>>730425894
>>730425945
my mummy and my daddy love me more than your mummy and your daddy love you

Seriously can we get the underages the fuck out of here please
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>t.not loved by mummy and daddy
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Not reading the thread, dont want any spoilers. Just wanted to say I recently beat both Crossbell and Cold Steel arcs and really enjoyed them. On Reverie now which is NEATO. Reminds me of Mortal Kombat Trilogy with how they just threw everyone and the kitchen sink into the roster.
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t. loved by mum and dad
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I'M CURRENTLY PLAYING THROUGH SKY 1 REMAKE AND I'M STRUGGLING TO FINISH IT.

I'm currently at Zeiss, chasing the bad guys who kidnapped Prof.Russel at the Red Tower.
I just can't continue anymore. it's just so BORING.
The combat is boring
The world is boring and we keep going back and forth the long brown road all the time doing random errands
The story hasn't even started yet

This game is a PURE SLOG and I don't even do sidequests at all

How the fuck did I finish this and SC a decade ago?
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I can't lie when I say that I enjoy seeing villains being retarded, characters jobbing, and new characters showing up who was totally there the whole time. When Shizuna was introduced I fucking burst out laughing when she did her imitation Spirit Unification
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>>730426552
oh and by the way, the unclouded eye can read minds. oh didn't we tell you? well now you know.
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wait, Kai is out in English? What do y'all think about it?

My old review:
Kai no Kiseki was both great and awful. I really like how this game advanced the Kiseki grand plot and now we’re actually going deep into the truth of Zemuria.

Sept-Terrions in Liberl, Crossbell and Erebonia feel insignificant that only affected the regional area, but this time, the Time has influence over literally everything with its Grand Reset. The final chapter was the best in the franchise so far. Instead of fighting a random giant divine-ish monster in a random dimension, we’re actually fighting things that are actually real and observable to everyone this time (Time-Sept and Grendel Shaddai)

I really like how Anies, Kincaid and Hamilton were scheming together. Kai is definitely a great setup game, which makes me look forward to Kai 2 and even Sky Remake cuz it’s possible that it’d be like FF7 Remake where it’s actually a continuity. I really look forward to destroying Time in a space battle. And find out more about Kincaid, Hamilton’s Mystery Niggas and other Remnants. Also Ouroboros plan... How is it any different from a normal Grand Reset?

My main complain is Van. It’s like the writer can’t think of a way to connect 4spg to this space arc. Van had ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to be against Roy, so they made up stupid reasons for Van to storm the space station. This shit is beyond stupid because Roy and scientists are working their ass off trying TO FUCKING SAVE HUMANITY while Van keeps bitching about “spend time with your daughter to celebrate her birthday you jerk!!!” and “why are you hiding the truth from the public you fascist!!!!” like a little kid throwing a tantrum.

Also it seems like they ran out of strong villains, so they made us spar against allies and neutral named characters instead. Our group has become way too strong for this world lol. Maybe it’s time to go beyond Zemuria to up the power creep.
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>>730426691
Remember when people thought Van was a good protagonist?
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>>730426197
She makes me throb but I do hope they explain how the hell she got her weird powers in the sequel. Same thing for Simeon.
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>>730426740
Van is one of the best protags, the writers have just been fumbling on how to use him since the first game.
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>>730426691
Other mysteries:


How many people know about the truth of Zemuria? It seems like many important people like Sondyke and upper echelon of Church know (but not Glassritter?). It’s weird how they’re all so calm about the end of the world. I mean they’re about to be fucking erased and the next (You) won’t be (You) anymore without your present memories.

What’s the Church’s endgame? Nina was officially called Saint of THE END, so they must know about the truth (of course) and embrace it like it’s necessary (to avoid Great Collapse of course). So them hunting Hamilton to maintain the status quo makes sense. If so, then why did Leon and Celis protect Hamilton? Maybe they’re just clueless? Kevin’s route should’ve been more involved with the Church’s inner stuff instead of hanging out with Rufus and the kids. His route didn’t feel like HIS route at all because of this.

What’s the condition to retain your memories in the next reset? During the story, Rean and Crow saw through the fake sky because they’re Awakeners. Are they gonna be immune to the reset? Or maybe Grendel’s hosts like Van and Kincaid too? I mean, there must be a bigger reason why Kincaid stole the Genesis to become a kamen rider too.

How many people in the current timeline actually remember the previous loop, aside from Grandmaster? All/some Anguis/Enforcers? Divine Guardian Beasts?

Are the Remnants gonna disappear or do they have to be re-summoned in the new timeline? Ixs is a non-remannt, but he’s hanging out with the Remnants. What’s gonna happen to him?
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>>730426862
Van is by far the worst protagonist in the series.
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Theory:

I kinda get the main idea of pretty much everything when looking at the timeline like Pic related

Great Collapse fucked up the entire world, excluding Zemuria which barely survived. They just know that the next Great Collapse will destroy Zemuria, so Aidios made it so that the continent reset forever. And Aidios loyal friends, the Church, is are tasked to make sure Zemuria is free from "Outside" interference, that's why they're hunting for artifacts and heretics that seek power from the Outside/Demons. Artifacts are probably remains not only from the Ancient Civ. but also from the previous loop (the reset is never perfect). In the current loop, Hamilton found Excalibur's stone statue in Creil, after all.

In contrast, Grandmaster is pro-freedom. This is just my wild assumption, but I think she wants humanity to eventually crush the cage and overcome the Great Collapse that's why she's been collecting taboo stuff for her own gain. She's basically playing a Roguelite game this entire time.

The Church/Aidios impose restrictions on humanity so they don't reach the limit, but Ouroboros and eventually our heroes too, will fight to overcome that limit. It's kinda similar to Gurren Lagann with the Spiral Race and Anti-Spiral thing. I think this would be a great finale for the franchise as a whole.


What do you think?
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I hope I'm not the only one who feels funny about this pathetic old hag. This stupid sequence activated something in me.
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>>730426516
I'm having the exact same issue. I have like 160 hours or something of FC on Steam so I definitely played the shit out of it back then but it's a real slog now and I feel like the combat system has only been downgraded since Cold Steel. You don't even have to worry about movement distance and you don't gradually break the shit out of it over the course of the game, there's just very little thought you can put into it.
>>730426552
That's the entire point of the series at this point, most of the enjoyment I got out of Daybreak 2 was laughing at retarded shit
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>>730415408
i never played FF7 so i don't have any nostalgia for it
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>>730427038
in Nayuta's world, there's this HUGE HOLE on the other side of the planet. I bet that's where Zemuria was.
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>>730426516
>>730427195
The first games in an arc are basically unplayable on repeat playthroughs cause when you first touch them you're constantly baited into the thought of things to come but when replaying it you know fucking nothing is coming so you get bored easy.
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>>730418701
When's the last time we actually visited Liberl after Sky? We know that the country has geographical issues which is why they put in so much effort into airship dev instead of conventional land travel.
So if cars and stuff got adopted into Liberl in the 5+ years since FC, then we can reasonably assume that they'd only really be popular in Zeiss and Grancel which are the tech hub and capital respectively.
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>>730427038
Yeah sounds about right honestly, it'd explain the Church/Ouroboros dichotomy very cleanly at least.
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>>730418397
Cold Steel had the best middle ground to me with it's WW1-WW2 aesthetic.
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>>730412409
I can't wait to ntr van with rean. Shizuna will finally be home as she should be.
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>>730427369
>When's the last time we actually visited Liberl after Sky?
We haven't. Kevin's party stops in Grancel at the start of Kai but that's off-screen.
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>>730427557
Exactly, so its kind of disingenious to say that Liberl has been truly left behind. If anything, its a slow adopter of new tech compared to say Crossbell.
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>>730427471
Also to add to this: Aidios is probably some multifaceted being from the Beyond and I think Nina and the Grandmaster are incarnations of different aspects of her. Namely one that wants to protect humanity, and one that wants to let them grow and live on their own. Also explains them being posed opposite each other in Horizon's cover.
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>>730422998
BAAAAASED
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Sky 1st isnt a remake, but a sequel set in the Loop No.20,000. we're going to see TIME JANNIES in 2nd
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Sky 2 > Azure > Zero > Sky 1 = DB1 > CS1 = CS2 > Reverie = CS4 = Sky 3 > CS3 >>>>>>>>>> DB2
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>>730418397
The series was initially supposed to have a "steampunk-like" aesthetic until a bunch of newer developers circa Zero's development wanted to chase the PSP's scifi-fantasy JRPG trends started adding a ton of modernity to Trails setting - behind senior developers' backs, no less. There was actually a lot of pushback against this massive upswing modernity from both older devs and fans, but because Falcom's sales were dwindling, the company gave the series' new direction a chance, and for at least 7 years it kind of paid off. It totally failed in Japan in the long run, though. Older fans do NOT like the series post-Crossbell.
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>>730428375
Reminder that it was supposed to be Sky to Erebonia and Crossbell is what's ultimately responsible for the series being bloated.
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how is the crossover game?
im not big into party fighters but im game if there's a fair amount of singleplayer content
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Sky 3rd shouldn't have existed
Sen 1 & 2 should've been 1 game
Sen 3 & 4 should've been 1 game
Hajimari shouldn't have existed
Kuro 2 shouldn't have existed, some of its important bits (very few) could've been added to Kuro 1
Kai should've been Kuro 2.

There. I fixed the content bloat.
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>>730428538
Yeah but Crossbell was good while Erebonia sucked so I'm glad we at least got those if their plan was always some retarded shit like THE CURSE
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>>730428824
Kai by itself is bloated. I would be in favor of splitting bits of DB2 between 1 and Kai (to give it more actual substance instead of just endless edging until the finale).
Also the good parts of 3rd would have to fit in elsewhere.
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>>730428694
It's a good fighter and yes it has a good singleplayer content and the story mode is pretty long. It's also really surprising it has rollback.
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>>730428538
I'm talking more about all the anachronisms with the tech and aesthetics in the series - less so about the bloat. The series' tendency to fake a ton of buildup and waste hundreds of hours on boilerplate JRPG content is a completely separate issue. It's clear that while Falcom may have a very rough outline for the overarching plot, they've almost certainly exhausted all of their more granular story ideas ages ago and have been ad-libbing shit ever since. IIRC, lore concepts like the Rivalry didn't even exist in Falcom's internal lore bible until late into CS2's development.
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>>730428981
just release a lore fanbook like Rance did
3rd is only good for the Star Doors
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>Grendel (((Shaddai)))
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do any of you guys actually use costume/accessory/hair colour slots in these games?
i refuse to believe there are real human beings who play the game with their characters looking like pic related
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>>730429374
I have Agate use Tita's banner
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>>730429158
This has always been my opinion on the series. While not perfect you can tell that Kondom had an idea of where to bring the story all the way until CS2, but after that he just started spitballing ideas and see what stuck and what didn't.
Like you cannot convince me that shit like the curse was planned from the very beginning. Hell even the Calvard arc is a huge mess of ideas and characters.
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>>730429374
Yes.
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>>730429374
I use ones that look nice without being too absurd like that neo bracer one for estelle they gave out, or the kloe knight play costume.
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>>730429374
I only used them while grinding in Reverie Corridor / Marchen Garten.
And hot costume mods in Sky 1st when I had a boner.
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>>730429616
omg it migu
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>>730429616
O MY GOTTO IT'S BANNIGARU!
Yoru no Hajimari sa~ ba nigga~
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>>730426769
Remember when Ouroboros were a serious world ending villains?
This is them now, hiring vtubers to do their PR.
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>>730428824
Sky should've been one game. Crossbell should've never existed.
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>>730430047
Grandmaster started running out of good recruits around the 11th-12th members which is not coincidentally when she started getting children with Joshua as the 13th.
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>everyone in zemuria suddenly knew about the great reset this whole time
?
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>>730427317
That's true of Sky and Zero only because fuck all happens in those games until the end. Cold Steel 1 has a little more going on so I still enjoy replaying it sometimes, even if I know how it goes.
>>730418397
It's stupid but I kind of love it. I'm like 99% sure in a game or two's time the series will turn into fucking Gundam
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>>730412409
>What's your favorite Trails game?

Azure>Reverie>Cold Steel I>Sky FC>Cold Steel 3>Sky SC>Daybreak I>Cold Steel 2>Sky 3rd>Zero>Cold Steel 4>Daybreak 2
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>>730429493
Kondo hasn't had much of a role in this series since Azure. It's been Takeiri's baby since then. If there's anyone you could blame for the roughshod state the story and setting are in, it's probably Takeiri. Well, him and all the dumbass newbies who fucked up the series creative direction in its PSP and Vita eras.

I can only imagine the aura of "man, what the fuck did we do to this series?" that the older devs had while working on the Sky remakes.
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>>730430296
>he didn't know
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>>730422337
More Rean and Kevin kino? Time to sign my life away again I guess.
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>>730430296
Bro made plans for S.1210
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>>730412409
I have a single rule for any Falcom game, no Towa no buy
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>>730432871
Lucky for you, she' in.
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>>730432969
I will now buy your game
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>>730432871
This but with Altina
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>>730412409
The demo starting with all my favourite characters from previous games coming together for a big party (literally) for endless dialogues where they just wank each other off about how epic it is to be meeting each other really summed up where the series is at this point
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which game has the most strip club visits?
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Haha
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>>730434783
Daybreak 1 has you go to the club in game but no pole dances. The pole dances happened on one story cutscence.

Daybreak 2 has you go to the club in game complete with pole dances.

Horizon doesn't feature going to the club in game but has two story cutscenes with pole dances.

No lap dances on all of them because japs are pussies.
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Club barracuda and Club Lelouche.
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any trails newfags coming from the Sky remake?
what did you think of it? will you be waiting for the SC remake or are you pushing onwards with the original games?
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>>730425448
Good point.
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>>730412409
Whut? We have trails threads every now and then.
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>>730437082
god she got such a glowup in the remake
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>>730441048
I always thought Schera was a top tier Trails hottie
Olivier is so lucky
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>>730437082
I'm playing 1st, near the end of chapter 2 I think. The game is ludokino. Is it ok if I skip zero (because i'm gay and think it looks too dated) and go to cold steel 1 while I wait for second chapter remake?
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The worst thing about these games is how they trivialize or cop out death a lot I can put up with annoying 1 note character traits, or characters being annoying orbiters to the protagonist after sky.
>Characters given clearly lethal blows and then somehow surviving them.
>Character responsibility being absolved by a fucking plot device
>Resurrecting characters like the second half of Cold Steel arc

At this point if they're going to do shit like this, I would rather have something dumb but potentially enjoyable like Rean getting a spic rape transformation that gives him Super Turbo Ultra Instinct and then he's cleaving entire mountains by himself with ridiculous ease and then having Earth shattering fights with other characters than... Whatever the fuck they're trying to do with their "worldbuilding" and """stakes""""
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>>730441156
>is it ok if i skip
no, niggerfaggot what the fuck
skipping 3 is understandable as much as i love kevin but Zero (+Azure) are two games you should absolutely not skip, and skipping any games makes you gay and retarded
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>>730441156
>Is it ok if I skip zero (because i'm gay and think it looks too dated) and go to cold steel 1 while I wait for second chapter remake?
Yes. Optimal way to play Cold Steel even, since just like the kids, you will have no idea what is going at the border.
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>>730441225
I learned to embrace trails' retardation when Crow was revived
just treat it as your favourite saturday morning cartoon but in videogame form, don't think too much about the writing just enjoy the ride
the character interactions are the best parts of these games' stories anyway
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>>730441882
>the character interactions are the best parts of these games' stories anyway
That part suffers after Sky big time, this is when you have the entire cast just orbit around Lloyd (to a modest extent), Rean, and Van.
In fact Class 7/NC7, and the ASO are the fucking worst offenders of this and perfectively exemplify this exact problem.
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>>730441882
I thought I had grown used to the retardation after CS3, but then Celine turned into a cat girl and I realised the series can always be dumber.
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>>730441156
Everyone who skips games regrets it later, characters will show up and talk about things and places you've never heard about.
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>>730442071
Sky was the ark where I disliked the character interaction the most because as much as people criticize the pacing of Cold Steel, it being twice as long as Sky allows it a lot more room to breathe where characters can just have pointless meandering conversations with each other like actual friends and feels way more orgnic than Sky where it feels like the characters don't really exist outside of moving the plot forward or furthering some character arc. Also teh criticism of characters orbiting the MC is such a load of horse shit. I seriously question if any of you have even played a game outside of Sky when you say such a blatant lie. Like one of the best parts of Hajimari was going into the corridor and seeing all the characters grouped up in different combinations just chatting to each other about this and that having absolutely fucking nothing to do with the main characters.
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>>730443680
I think most people who say that just speed through the game and only focus on the main story while completely ignoring all the optional dialogue you can see between cutscenes since in the main cutscenes yeah the MC dick riding is worse.
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>>730443680
no way you wrote this with a straight face
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>>730441291
>>730441657
>>730442974
do i really need to know what happens in the tiny nation-state of crossbell?
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>>730412409
I'm here for my man Kevin.
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>>730445078
No, you also don't need to know what happened in Erebonia or Calvard, so feel free to skip every single game and play something else.
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>>730445078
you don't NEED to but the Zero/Azure story is probably the best storyline in the series
maybe a bit below FC/SC, but after Azure (as much as I love the hahaman games) the writing kinda takes a turn for the worse
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>>730445205
and besides, i would be spoiled about what happens in sky 3rd, since estelle and joshua show up in the trailer for zero
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>>730412409
I think I'm going with CS2 as my favorite since I laughed at out that everything Crowe did was meaningless and he died a pointless death. I'm sure 3 will undermine it but damn that was funny.
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>>730444745
>not a single argument
You're basically just proving my point that you haven't even played a single game outside of the Sky trilogy.
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>>730445391
I mean cs2 in general was pointless other than what we already knew from Azure (Osborne owning the nobles). Absolute waste of a game and the most it does is foreshadow CS4 stuff (which sucks anyway)
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>>730445263
E&J are supporting characters in Sora the 3rd.

It also has the best worldbuilding and character writing in the franchise, with the most unique music the series has to offer.
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>>730446102
3rd is edgy fanfiction that feels completely disconnected from every single other game and the only way you could possibly say 3rd has the best writing is if you just hated every other game in the franchise. It is one of if not the single worst game in the series and I'm tired of you contrarian faggots pretending it's good.
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can't wait to hear the remake rendition of this track tbqhwyf
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>>730446282
honestly completely forgot this one existed until it showed up in Kisekidle but it's nice
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>>730446198
>edgy fanfiction
Reminder that Van was sold to the cult and experimented on by Donte and Quatre was drugged both inside and outside the womb, on top of being brainwashed so he could host an Angel. But yeah 3rd is really the oddball of the series.
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>>730446650
>using good boy Van as an example
Not exactly helping your case
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>>730446721
>doesn't count
Epic argument
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>>730446102
that sounds fucking terrible, i grew up with them and then falcom just adds someone else?
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>>730446825
It doesn't count cause it literally proves your own argument wrong.
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Woah that's the first time i see everything sold out considering you can still buy LEs of Kuro 1 and 2 from the site.
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I haven't even finished Daybreak 1 yet and I'm not sure if I'll start Daybreak 1 or go back and do the Sky remake since I've never finished the original Sky trilogy after dropping FC before the end.
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>>730446863
How so? I literally just tied 3rd edginess to 2 other games in the series, unless you mean to tell me that those two are also edgy fanfic.
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>>730447027
Because everything to do with Van is whitewashed and watered down to the point that any edge it could have had is just campy chuuniness with zero bite same with every single other game in the franchise. This is the same frachise that had a civil war break out with the death toll in the single digits. 3rd is the singular exception to the rule that is genuinely dark but it's not to the writing's benefit since as I said it's incongruent with every other game and feels out of place.
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>>730445078
You miss specific interactions and characters mostly. Crossbell and Erebonia spoil each other on the major plot. Frankly you'll probably only get upset if you like the Bell cast then go into CS. I liked the MC and more or less hated how he was treated after his games.
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>>730447142
Yeah Van is the same as Joshua where anything dark that happens to him isn't supposed to be dark, it's supposed to make him look cool and mysterious. It's entirely different from say what is shown to have happened to Renne
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>>730447471
What? Lloyd's at his best in Hajimari.
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