Why are weebs like this? So incensed that people like an RPG that isn't bogged down by the generic gameplay and writing tropes, overly long run time and boring gameplay loop, that they have to accuse anyone who likes Expedition 33 as being racist against the poor JRPG genre?
>>730497990
Anime LOST. Westernchads WON.
>>730497990rap is shit and so is eminem, thus jrpgs are shit and so is e33.
But i do hate rap and love Eminem
>>730497990>I hate rap, but I love EminemIn other words, they're mad white are people succeeding. E33 is a better JRPG than any JRPG. ATLA is a better anime than any anime. Japedos are creatively bankrupt and they hate white excellence.
>>730497990>Funding Obscur: Astroturf fake indie game 33Poorly optimised ugly messhttps://youtu.be/Ls4QS3F8rJU
>>730497990He's not wrong.
>>730497990They can’t accept that what they like in JRPGs is what makes JRPGs bad
I'll wait for the movie to come out. Imagine having to press buttons.
>>730497990JRPGs turned out to be a good genre that's made by soulless bug people this whole time and it took the french to finally make a game that surpasses everything they made in decades with their first game.
>I hate rap but i love EminemWhat's wrong with that? I hate 70s music, but i love ABBA.
>>730498305He’s going for “wipipo be racist”
>>730497990there's really grown ass men that think video games need deep discussions and think they're some weapon to be used in social debates, these faggots really need to be burnt alive
>>730498362>cultural appropriation.Without it, we wouldn't have Stardew Valley and Pizza Tower, so I allow it.
Take the J out of JRPG and you can actually have decent games. No functioning adult actually enjoys anime shit. So of course it makes sense E33 ends up being a game that has received the post video game awards ever. It doesn't have all the weird and creepy tranime tropes that a usual JRPG has.E33 is a JRPG for actual developed adults, not cringe pedo man children.
>The same faggot posted "his"10x10 grid in the replies >0 games that are better than E33
>>730497990The entire JRPG genre was copied from Ultima and Wizardry anywayWhy are weebs so uppity about this?
>>730498685Because they don’t know jrpg history. They think one day tanaka-kun woken up and decided to invent jarpig
>>730498685JRPG is a derogatory word in Japan like otaku is. Weebs don't know any better.
>>730498092I keep saying it got a shit load of attention because it's gooner approved by the majority. Everyone goons to it. Personally I think the character models are ugly as sin but that's just me.
>>730498685>The entire JRPG genre was copied from AmericansThe esl posters on the internet eternally seethe about this. And the funny thing is there's nothing they can do about it. It's simply historical truth.
>>730497990why should i care about what a nigger on twitter thinks
>>730497990The gameplay of E33 is actually fun, that's the main thing I take away from it.I loved P5R for everything but the gameplay since the game kinda plays itself, after a while you're just doing Concentrate into Megidolaon and waiting until the fight is over.Frenchies did everything they could to actually make turn based combat FUN so it's no wonder that JRPGfags are salty about it.If Square Enix had made a game like this, with free-aim and poise break and parrying and all that, they would have celebrated it.
>>730498582Literally all of those games are better than E33. Except for the Sonic games.
>>730497990It's just another delusional xenoblade fag in denial about his series being bottom of the barrel garbage.
>>730498685>>730498992This. Weebs are such fags about it, but it's true. But the JRPG became its own thing when America stopped making Four Niggas In A Row games and dungeon crawlers, and Japan loved that aspect the most. Western RPGs became more about action combat, buttsex, and gay fanservice. As an RPG oldhead, I like JRPGs more because modern ones still have a lot of what I liked about Wizardry etc. Baldur's Gay 3 has almost nothing I liked about the first two. But it lets you fuck all your party members!
I like talking to myself
>>730498582>Safe, normie approved picks to not alienate the Twittards (DMC, SH2, Yakuza 0, Astro Bot)>But also underground weebkino to appeal to /v/ (Gunstar, Vanquish, NG, Bayo, Asura's Wrath, DD, Gungrave, F-Zero GX)>Basic Nintendo slop (That many Mario, Sonic and Mega Man games, holy fucking shit)>Literally who indie troonslop>Barely any JRPGs for someone who shit on E33 fans for not playing other RPGs, all entry level shit or fucking Xenoshit>The "No, I'm not a weeaboo, I swear, here's my entry level western games!" picks (GOW3, Jak, Doom, Burnout, Dead Space, Ratchet)This isn't this person's taste. This is a list they made to fit in with a clique of Twitter troons and Redditoids. They've probably not even played half "their" list.
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>>730497990it doesn't really hold a candle to the old final fantasy's, but people want to put it upon a pedestal to prove to squeenix that the last 20 years have been a waste of time, trying to reinvent the wheel when people like the wheel. FF16 would've been a great entry without 70% of the fillerslop and generic non-RPG action combat
>>730498092trvth nvke
>Xenoblade pfpYou know this degenerate troon was seething during TGA. E33 won more awards during the preshow than Xenoslop has in its entirety.
>>730499646a man needs sauce
>>730501092it's ALWAYS nintendo fans
>>730501156>>730498582>That much bingbingshitChecks out, the Xenofaggotry is just the cherry on top.
>>730499646Hello fellow r/hiphopheadsOh boy I just heckin love black culture and saying words fast over a jewish beatBTW its hip hop not rap>>730501092>muh awardsnormalfaggots like you really need their updoot validation i guess
>>730497990Daily reminder your dogshit asset flip lost to a fucking zombie bashing action game on the story front.
>>730501545>Make fun of the fact a faggot weeb is seething because of their inferiority complex against a game that swept TGA, vs the one they make their entire personality about which hadn't won a single award in its existence>Faggot weeb immediately seethes over itLike clockwork.
>>730499336JRPG has been stagnant for decades. They all play the same, 4 niggers (Hero Boy, Heroine, Big Guy and Small Comic Relief) in a row selecting super effective moves from the menu and spamming them on 4 trash mobs in a row. Braindead gameplay, only included in the as an afterlthought. BG3, Pathfinder KM and WOTR, Solasta, Underrail, etc. all mog the shit outta Persona 5, SMTV, Octopath and other JRPGs when it comes to gameplay.
>>730497990Time is a flat circle.
>>730498305Being entirely honest, Eminem is one of the few genuinely good rappers along with the MF DOOM and early Kanye.Rap is by in large a trash genre that’s just about glorifying crime and shitting on rival rappers written by barely literate ghetto trash. Rap is mostly not a white genre, and I swear people pretend it’s better than it is so as not to seem politically incorrect.
>>730501796>early Kanye.Never understood what people saw in his music, personally.
>>730501776Except E33 is good, unlike TLOU.
>>730501909>what people saw in his musicThey didn't. They listened, which is what you clearly failed to do.
>>730501768>JRPG has been stagnant for decades.I skipped E33 initially exactly for this reason. Square Enix with their horrible dumbening, writing and characters also poisoned the genre, for me anyway. I used to play a lot of JRPGs back in the day but now the genre is associated with bad games.
>>730501935>They didn't. They listenedYou think you're clever, don't you?
>>730501796eminem is easily the best rapper and its not even close. he utterly mogs everyone not in just rapping, but in his own lyricism and story telling, he is a true artist
>>730501759>If you’re not a failed normalfaggot like me who craves attention and validation from the people I want to be like, you must be a “faggot weeb”!not only a failed normalfaggot but a low IQ retard on top of that.
>>730502008More so than you, perhaps.
>>730498160>schizophrenia
Huh, I really dislike rap and love some Eminem songs. Is this a common thing then?
>>730497990E33 is midJRPGs are worse
>>730502049>>730501796>Eminem, MF Doom, Kanye>umm I only like REAL HIP HOP like my fellow hiphopheads.All Jewish produced “black” music with the lyricism of a kindergartener’s first poem.
>>730497990I'm thinking of pirating this game just because it makes weaboo trannies seethe.
>>730502069lmao, okay man.
Eminem actually knows how to rap like most classic old school guys that rapfags love to hype up. Modern rappers are a complete joke and meme and were raised by silver spoons in their mouths.
>>730501935
>>730498582Holy fucking posercore, fits right in with the anti-E33 troon crowd
>Xenoblade troon spouts a dogshit opinionNot enough barely written sex dolls passing off as a female cast of "characters" for his liking
>>730498582I cant take any 3x3 or lists I see seriously anymore until I see verifiable proof that they played it example hours or save files.
>>730499646>>730501137arcasad
Yeah, because most JRPG's are fucking trash. Out of the sixteen mainline Final Fantasy games, how many are actually good? Like two or three at most? How many "Eternal Myrmidon of Radiant Gestalt" games are there for every Chrono Trigger? When have JRPG fags wanted anything other than menu gameplay and "killing God through the power of friendship" stories?
>>730501796I remember some guy at work trying to get me into him. He showed me some retarded song where the faggot went off on his mother and the guy showing me was acting like "man its so deep" all I heard was a whiny brat bitching about his mother.
>Half the thread proves xir's point right.Say what you will about the fag in question's tastes, but /v/ is filled with people who's tastes are literally built around retarded standards like "an entire genre of games is SHIT," you literaly can't get any lower than that. I hate every last one of you, except for the effort posters - you know who you are.
I enjoy JRPGsI also enjoyed E33Why does everything always have to be so mutually exclusive with you people?
>>730497990is this another variant one of those "E33 is LITERALLY ISRAEL" posts?
>>730501768>Pathfinder KM and WOTR>Buffstack and munchkin: the games.>Better gameplay than most JRPGs.If you want to talk about games with braindead, solved combat, look no further than Monk Dip Finder.
>>730504557Yeah, just leftoid seethe like when they auto switch from hating nazis to hating jews depending on what they see on twitter
>>730497990>Entire thread coping about them being right
>>730497990If you want to talk about a tweet why not do it on twitter
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>>730497990>generic gameplaythey LITERALLY full of stole paper mario's gameplay for excrement 33
>>730499729Final fantasy has been trash since 9 and everyone knows it. Let square get fucked by bad decisions and fail.
>>730504824
5 years from now everyone will agree that E33 was vastly overrated.It will be the new Bioshock Infinite. Praised to all heavens by normalfags, despised by people who care about the genre, forgotten and abandoned soon after.
>>730497990Refunded it after 4 hours. Game can literally be watched like a movie on youtube and you lose nothing from the experience.
>>730504901>despised by people who care about the genreEvery single FF fan I've seen praised E33 and put in on par with their favorite FF game
want to dunk on movie game but then people will think im a weeb.
>>730504557Yes. The retarded "review" they blatantly used their post as an excuse to promote is also pretentious word vomit.>>730504697Not a single word from that troon's tweet is right; it's all seething about how nobody likes le heckin weeb games.
>>730504901>5 years trust the plan
>>730504901Bioshock what? That game that came out to lukewarm praise and was forgotten in a month or two. Its been nearly a year and E33 is still the best game to release.
>>730504661Esl shills are ruining this board
>>730504901is this the new cope lmfaoat first it was "yeah it'll be forgotten in a month"then "yeah give it 3 more months and it'll be gone"then "w-well after TGA it'll be forgotten!!"and now its 5 years??? LOLjust give up little contrarian. the game is amazing but not perfect. its a flawed masterpiece that actual gamers who played it love. there is even a new influx of people that called it overrated after seeing it win goty, played it, and fucking loved it. you have nothing to prove, and nothing you win, you just sit there and waste your time filling your empty life on a website, all while failing and pissed off at it.
>>730504908It's kind of weird to have this opinion. The game, like any JRPG, starts out cutscene heavy but once you actually get control in the overworld I was going a long time between major cutscenes due to exploring and doing all the side content.I guess if you just were really slow in Lumiere and the initial tutorial part of the Expedition then I get it, but 4 hours seems like a long time to just not hit the gameplay.
I don't trust white jrpg fans, they are all paid by China to sell me communist slop
>>730499729It has better gameplay than basically every Final Fantasy that isn't 10. However, I do agree that Expedition 33 lacks the ambition that old Final Fantasies had. It is not fair to compare them because E33 is literally their first game and it is not like FF1 is that great of a game.However, yes, if you look from FF 6-10 the games were always pushing the boundaries of video game hardware, music, graphics, cutscenes, and scale of story. E33, despite it dealing with the fate of an entire world, feels pretty small.
>>730497990>I wrote up a piece on Backloggd
>>730505340>that isn't 10
>>730505113>everyone not agreeing with my shitlib californian sentiments is an indian
>>730505470FF10 is the pinnacle of final fantasy's combat and everything after has been them dumbing the game down for some reason.
>>730497990>backlogged>Eminem>XC pfpkek
>>730505580FF became mostly for women after 10 so they had to make it retard proof
>>730505845women love dumb menuslop, why do you think they all play BG3
>>730505000>The retarded "review" they blatantly used their post as an excuse to promote is also pretentious word vomitSurely it can't be that ba->The opening paragraphs are them crying and pissing their pants about "PEOPLE DON'T LIKE MY JAPSLOP, SO THEY'RE RACIST!!!!!"Holy fuck, can someone make this disgusting tranny and every single one who liked their post join the 42% already?
>>730498092That's good though. Anime being mainstream is horrible, we need more westoid stuff to go back to the mainstream and anime to become niche again (it ain't happening)
If you hate JRPGs but love E33, you hate video games.Sorry, just how it is.
is he trying to make some sort of faux-racism argument?
>>730506446E33 is a jrpg.
>>730506446Other way around, weeb.>>730506472Yes.>If you don't like JRPGs, you hate the Japanese because... you just do!!!!! Also the media were mean about my favorite japshit in the mid 2000s, (it was all on comedy TV review series) so they all clearly hate EVERYTHING Japanese as well!!!!It's as weeb-copey as it sounds
>>730506891E33 and its fanbase is absolutely dripping with malice toward JRPGs. I don't care what the creators claim to be inspired by.>>730506927>you don't like video games because you don't like the most astroturfed game of the decade, and you're just a WEEB if you say otherwiseRetard.
>>730497990how is she wrong?
>>730507563>she
>>730497990E33 was trash
>>730507519Contrarianism isn't a personality trait.>>730507563Because he (troon) is assuming everyone who would dare to like E33 for being a good video game are just racist against weebshit games, rather than deconstruct the reasons someone might like E33 over those games (IE, you can take it seriously at all if you're over the age of 15 at absolute latest). It's the same reason all the seethers started calling it Israeli or a ChatGPT game. No formulated thought behind "WHY ISN'T MY THING THAT POPULAR"
>>730508034It isn't contrarian to not be obsessed with games being "cringe" like I'm still a high schooler obsessing over what my peers will think of the games I like.>BUT I CANT TAKE ANIME STORIES SERIOUSLYSounds like a you problem.
>>730506446If you like JRPG's you hate video games
>>730497990I don't care for rap but I like kayne.
>>730497990she's not wrong tho
>>730497990>Xenoblade 2, tendie's first JRPG>Worst combat system ever made in a JRPG yes, worse than FFXIIILiterally just a butthurt NintoddIer whose never played a good JRPG.
>>730508284Anon, do you legitimately have schizophrenia? maybe i'm the confused one here, but i don't see anything in the thread or the post you're replying to talking about Xenoblade.
>>730508156>I don't enjoy animeslop because it's almost all poorly written, tropey and full of boring characters>"Uhm, that's a you problem, don't make fun of my slop!"Noted.>>730508251>She>>730508284Doubt he even played it, probably just another gooner.>>730508414Click on the pic in OP and use your eyes.
>>730497990For me it's rap professor Lupe Fiasco
>>730508576>games that dare have an anime art style>it's almost all poorly written, tropey and full of boring charactersOnce again, that sounds like a you problem.>BUT ACTUAL ANIME IS MUH SLOPAnime website.
>>730508576I will never get you normalfaggots who actually pay attention to shit like usernames and profile pics. i started filtering them out decades ago.
>>730508414Check the OP image, what the thread is about.
>>730508928see >>730508714
>>730497990It really is the Harry Potter of videogames
>>730497990JRPGs are known for their awkward shitty dialogue. Modern anime is known for this too. It's honestly a quality issue. I have no idea why Japan puts out so much slop nowadays. It's not racism either, Japan used to put out some really great stuff.Compare Ghost in the Shell to any modern anime and see the difference.
>"I hate survival games, but I love abiotic factor"
>>730508996>JRPGs are known for their awkward shitty dialogue.To people who already hate JRPGs this might be true.
>>730508414>>730508714>>730508983>Anon is so smart he filters out the context of the argument
>>730497990You're not helping. E33 is full of tropes and the gameplay is literally lifted from other games entirely?
>>730504265anything involving mommy or muh daughter is shit from himhes only good when hes a clown making funny voices that make me clap or when hes with the fat nigger in d12
"I hate AAAslop Asscreed clones but I love BOTW"
>>730497990The only thing not generic about E33 is the art style. It's a bog standard "JRPG" otherwise
>>730509109Many JRPGs have dialogue that seems like it'd be at home in a Power rangers or Dora the Explorer episode. The acting is usually terrible too, but I can't blame the actors too much when the material is bad to begin with.
>>730498108Genres can't be shit, only individual works can.
>>730509418>It's a bog standard "JRPG" otherwiseA bog standard pre-2010s JRPG, that's what makes it good.
>>730509418The art style literally premade assets.
>>730509460Once again, an opinion one might realistically develop if they were already tuning out JRPGs, but not one you would expect from someone who doesn't inherently hate them.
>>730501796MF DOOMs most well known song is only catchy because of a sample of a sick guitar solo being looped over and overRap music is such a joke
>>730498563There is no such thing as "anime", it's not a distinct style or genre.
>>730498305>i hate x but i love the most entry level and accessible version of x>i hate metal but i love metallica
>>730509593I don't inherently hate them, but I've become uninterested in them as I've gotten older. I don't hate the Power rangers, or Ben 10, or modern anime, but the writing standard for media aimed at young teens is obviously very low.
>>730509771Target audience has zero impact on writing.
>>730509771You do.You only like it when something that looks "anime" has completely self-loathing writing that takes the piss out of tropes that haven't been played straight since 2002.You think it's "for kids" when the writers aren't seething with resentment at the medium their work goes into.
>>730497990Eminem is a closeted fag with a trans child
>>730498582Honestly not half bad, would probably hang out with him.
>>730504994post 6 FF fans don't like jrpgs.
>>730509771Most modern anime is not aimed at young teens.Most of it now is seinen (meaning its target audience is adult men, as opposed to shonen, which is for young boys)
>>730509889I want the characters to act like people and not like cartoonish caricatures. Nothing to do with self-loathing writing or whatever the fuck you're talking about
>>730509109>scene where the upcoming party member gets into an argument with her sister, results in her sister calling her useless and a burden>not even five minutes later there's a flashback to this scene because the writers thought they needed to remind you of how much that hurt her instead of showing that through her tone when talking to the groupYour post was about dialogue specifically but jrpg writing has some brain dead choices that shouldn't even be there, but if you want a example with dialogue look no further than Xenoblade 1.>Mumkhar, this is what you get for attacking our homes and betraying us!>NOOO DUNBAN YOU CAN'T KILL ANOTHER HOMS HE'S ONE OF US WE CAN JUST BEAT HIM AGAIN AND AGAIN INSTEAD OF KILLING AN IRREDEEMABLE PIECE OF SHIT WHAT IF HE WAS FIORA WOULD YOU KILL HER EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE IN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS I SAW A VISION HE'S GOING TO GET HIMSELF KILLED IN A FEW MINUTES STOP
xeno games are peak fiction, so I'm not surprised e33fags hate it on principle.
>>730510185>I want the characters to act like people and not like cartoonish caricatures.You literally don't. You want characters to act like characters, except characters you personally approve of.Actors, whether they be stage performers, television and film performers, etc, all ACT in ways that no normal person does. For if they did not act but instead insisted on pure verisimilitude and realism, TV and film would suck even worse than you think it already does because the thing that makes it KINO would literally not be there anymore.
>>730510167>Most of it now is seinen (meaning its target audience is adult menThat's true but the writing standard hasn't raised. You have anime "for adults", but the quality is still for children's television. That's why so many people shit on it nowadays.
>>730497990It just proves that anime itself is the problem. Healthy adults aren't fascinated with foreign cartoons that feature gross fanservice about school kids.
>>730497990BasedWeebs NEED to get more toxicOnce foreigners are filtered out, if Japan survives the depression then 20 years from now we'll be have cycled back to revolutionary hidden gems being pumped out by passionate weirdos
>>730497990>i hate rap, but i love eminemNo rapper has yet bested eminem's new single My salsa though.
>>730497990she's right
>>730510185Your brain whites out the characters' actual behavior and replaces it with stereotypes you heard when you were still twelve and learning how to feel about anime.
>>730497990>weebsWeebs hate people like this thoughThose are lgbt retards that don't care about weeb stuff at all beyond some niche shit like yuriWeebs call them out constantly and turn them into lolcows like ACK
>>730510201And this is a JRPG/anime problem? It sounds like games being written for normal people is a plague no matter what.
>>730497990This is all Final Fantasy's fault for shilling that stupid ass kingdom hearts action garbage instead of making turn basef
>>730510439>newit's great but brother that came out in 2004
>>730510185>I want the cartoon characters to not act like cartoon charactersThen watch live action stuff
>>730510424Except E33 is very much written the same way as the JRPGs it's emulating.
>>730510304>>730510537Mundane shit is always cut out, but good media is believable. It amazes me that you'd watch something like:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYZDQNRQQh0And say this is great character dialogue and totally on the same level as Ex33. It's all "perspective", right? No man, it's awkward crap that's borderline unwatchable. Tons of Jrpgs are written like this. Just insanely bad dialogue.
>cameron is likely in this very thread doing damage control
>>730510853If "believability" is what they're for, them sure. But most media is made for entertainment, not believability. If the audience wanted "real people", they'd go outside.
>>730497990Modern weebism is a narcissistic cult. The weeb of today is an insecure loser who watches nothing but power fantasy isekai/shonen and coomer moeshit that panders to their lizard brain, and tells them that they don't need to grow or change, and it's the world that's wrong for not giving them power, free girl slaves, and pandering to their every whim and desire. Thus, they develop an obsessive attachment to anime and anime culture, rely on it to affirm their beliefs and buoy their insecurity, and grow a complex against the west because it can't provide them the same vapid escapism. They also become addicted to the forms and motions of virtue signalling that you're a weeb, like making half your personality about posting anime girl reaction images, and like in most cults, they then become extremely hostile to anyone and anything that exists outside of the cult and its obsessions.It's a pathetic existence.
>>730497990Weebs are mentally damaged and addicted to repetition.Repetition of tropesRepetition of formsIf they draw fanart of something with even a hint of uniqueness then that uniqueness will be boiled down into nothing but a costume for the same exact anime character with the same trope personality.It is anti art. Just pay attention, you will see it.
>>730497990Those comments are 100% paid for you idiot.>le video games sucks but man E33...Do you actually believe this shit?
>>730505232I made it to the end of Act 1. The gameplay was shit.
>>730511010Neither isekai nor shonen are genres.The former just means the protagonist isn't native to the world the story takes place in. The latter is just the Japanese word for boy, and doesn't refer to any specific genre or style, only the target demographic.
>the balding male feminist has entered the thread
>>730498092There's a million western "jrpgs" that bombed the fuck are you on. Remember YIIK?
>>730498582>This is the "taste" of someone who will call E33 overrated Israeli slop
>>730510975Tons of Jrpgs have both the unbelievable and cringe factor dialed up to 11. While dialogue is just straight up shitty, it's also simultaneously childish and sexualized in a way that makes any person (who isn't retarded) uncomfortable.
>>730510605Yes, comparatively this shit is much more common in jrpgs because the writers think the average jrpg fan can't understand anything (they're right and it's a damn shame).
>>730498685being a weeb is just being a hipsterlook ma I'm not a normalfag because I like japan more than my home country
>>730511010>it's the world that's wrong for not giving them power, free girl slaves, and pandering to their every whim and desireare you talking about weebs or chuds?
>>730511070Literally every fucking piece of media ever made has "repeated tropes". Tropes are just tools and plot devices used to tell stories. They're the building blocks of fiction, they're unavoidable. What it comes down to is the skill of the person using these tools.
>an entire thread of apoplectic anti-japanese seethingDid Taiwan blow Xi's head off? Did someone on the sharty kill themselves? The fuck is going on?
>>730498305The hidden meaning behind this is that you're just ignorant about other rappers.Like people who claim to hate metal but like Metallica, they just don't know anything about metal and only know about Metallica because of Spotify tops or Stranger Things.When you're a normie your life is what's popular, what's in the algorithm, you can't really claim to "hate" something because you don't even know it.
>>730497990>Xenoblade 2 avi criticizing E33LOL LMAO!!
>>730511395They're the same thing at this point
>>730497990>Why are weebs like this?Bro he's saying VIDEO GAMES, not just jrpgs, he's claiming that everything you like is shit and a waste of time, except for E33, and you're taking his side.
>>730510605they aren't writing for normal people. they're writing for weeb tards
>>730511426If you think the hate against weebs is new you haven't been here very long
>>730510853But let us not pretend that this is "realistic" or representative of how real people talk to each other, either.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyBooYYx4FwThe reason it can feel like it is because the ACTORS are *gasp* ACTING and selling their performances, making you feel what they want you to feel during the scene. It is helped by the scene being well-written from the start, of course, but getting random people off the street to re-enact this scene or even having them do it in their own words would not feel the same way at all despite being "realistic".You think you want a particular thing, but you don't even understand the bare basics of the thing you claim to want. You don't even know how to talk about the thing you think you want because you've spent your whole life slurping instead of seeking to understand.
>>730511306Solution: stop playing games made for teenagers
>>730511426>The fuck is going on?Tendies are trying to force a weebs vs frogs fight.
>>730511407Nothing compared to the media weebs are obsessed with.
>e33 is now the “I hate gameplay, get back to the cutscenes” game lol
If JRPGs were worth anything, Japan wouldn't have allowed the genre to be spearheaded by Persona and Xenoblade. They don't care, it's a terrible format that lost itself in its own ass expanding on its flaws exclusively until no one cared anymore, exactly like WRPGs.
>>730511558Anime website, shartynigger
>>730511614Nah, that's Xenoblade 2.
>>730511463Many such cases, all of them as laughable as the last.
>>730498362No he’s not. He’s talking about the people who never look for new things to like, claim they don’t like the things they never bothered to try, then are accidentally exposed to the most commercial popular version of a thing and say it’s good while the rest is bad. In short, incurious posers.
>>730511579I don't play JRPGs anymore. That's the point
>>730497990>video games are mostly a stupid waste of time>BUT WEEBSThis is just like when retards took the side of SJWs who hated video games just to own the "manchildren" who played games rated E for everyone. Have some fucking dignity.
>*gasp*
>>730511306>sexualizedmask is off
>>730511631You know using the term weeaboo to make fun of your kind originated from this site, right? Or do you think your scary boogeyman time travelled to back then to make that up?
>>730511567And here, have another for good measure, a bit of famous/legendary vidya "good acting" that people mistake for being "realistic" and "natural".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns10hzKYgYoAgain, retards will look at this and think>"HOLY SHIT IT'S SO NATURAL JUST LIKE HOW REAL PEOPLE TALK TO EACH OTHER"But no, in fact, not at all. Again, you are being fooled by the smoke and mirrors of ACTING. This isn't a bad thing, mind you, because if it gets you to feel how the directors/actors/writers/etc want you to feel, then that is a success. But don't think for a second that anything you've ever been moved by in film, theater, animation, television, radio, etc, has ever been "real" because if you have, then I've got a lovely bridge to sell you as well.
>>730497990But all those things describe E33? It literally does the "it was all a dream" shit and makes 99% of the game entirely worthless.
>>730511936depends on the ending you choose if it is worthless or not.
>>730511567>>730511874>posts "good" acting>its still shitit's over weeb bros
>>730511567You've fixated on the word "realistic" and missed the point. Yes, earlier in the thread I said it was both a writing AND acting issue.
why is this place so anti japanese now?you would never see shit like this thread a decade ago
>>730511567first few lines literally felt like an actor, good actor, but still actor simply reading out a script.
>>730512279A decade ago shit like this would've been even worse.
>>730512279Chinks and their gacha simps, mainly.
>>730512221>I want the characters to act like peopleI haven't missed the point at all. I am clarifying that you think you want something that you fundamentally do not. You want acting and writing that you are willing to suspend disbelief on and buy into a fake feeling of "YEAH THIS IS TOTALLY HOW PEOPLE ACT BECAUSE, UH... B-BEACUSE I JUST WANT TO BELIEVE, OK!? GOD!"
>>730511010Shonen is all about growing and changing. Most popular shonen are coming of age stories.
>>730512279>why is this place so anti japanese now?Nintendo keeps squeezing out last pennies out of their retarded fans for another piece of shit toddler-core gameFromSoft releases another un-inspired rollslopSquare Enix releases FF7 but worseJapan stopped producing anything good so they get what they fucking deserve
>>730512440instead i should play something like....?
>>730498160E33 requires less skill and strategy than the average JRPG, there's no need to plan ahead or prepare different tactics since the parry trivializes everything, just memorize the attack patterns and you're guaranteed to steamroll through everything, some people bring up Verso and Simon but those bosses don't change the way you play the game, it just asks you to do the same thing you were doing since the beginning but for longer. Also the only things people talk about the game that makes it "better" than JRPGs is the cinematic presentation and "mature" tone instead of the quality of the story, and the gameplay isn't even mentioned since they were convinced and hooked from the start due to it's simplicity. The reality is that this game was made for people that don't like JRPGs and believe they're too "mature" for anime storytelling and aesthetics, which shows how mentally immature they are. It's pitiful really, that the only way Whites could copy Japan is by stripping everything engaging of their genres and pretend that's something to be proud about.>Japedos are creatively bankrupt and they hate white excellence.Please name 5 things that E33 does that are innovative for the genre. Also self-hating Whites aren't individuals worth praising.
>>730512525Expedition 33
>>730512373>YEAH THIS IS TOTALLY HOW PEOPLE ACT BECAUSE, UH... B-BEACUSE I JUST WANT TO BELIEVE, OK!? GODNo, this is not what I think. As I said, you've misunderstood. I didn't say good writing is necessarily a 1 to 1 replication of human speech. You're being overly literal because you're mad that JRPG writing is straight up shit.
>>730511874honestly that scene is the best part of Kodelka. Maybe it was really the voice acting, but I felt the models/animation did a lot there as well
>>730512583and what else? I cannot play the same game over and over for the next decades
>>730511010This should be framed. I would only add it became prevalent in 2016.
>>730498582Insane amount of "pick me" energy, holy shit
>>730497990weebs are insecure nerds
>>730512653Silksong
>super mario rpg been out for 20 years>e33 roaches acting like the gameplay is innovativelol lmao
>>730512293so a bad actor
>>730512951Demon Souls didn't invent anything new yet was hailed as innovative and spawned huge number of copycats simply because they correctly applied existing mechanic to make something that clicked with people
E33 crowd just consists of obnoxious normiesJust ignore them
>>730512951>didn't even sell a millyMariobros?
>>730511854It originated from Something Awful.Shartynigger
>Xenoshit pfpTranny, opinion discarded
>>730512440Oh it's just the local snoys seething.
>>730498582You can tell for a fact that this guy didn't play most of these games and just picked them to look cool and cultured to his internet friends
>>730514362No it didn't, you wapanese wannabe oldfag. Get out of here.
>>730497990Honestly it makes a lot of sense that E33 fans are trannies that don't like Pyra's big tiddies. They were the resetera users that was seething at Xenoblade 2 trailer
>>730514594Stay mad you will never stop /v/ from discussing and playing Japanese games, shartytroon.
>>730514512Insane posercore, especially because the original tweet has a bunch of other trannies saying they have good taste.
>>730498160its not a jrpg its not made from japan. its a rpg not a jrpg.
>>730497990I guess it's offensive in some way, I absolutely agree. I'm playing Kingmaker right now and it's full of content that is just there to increase my playtime to insane amounts of hours. I want more games where they remove content that's not fun and just makes the game shorter.
>>730515052Reminder these anti-Japan trannies try to claim Soulsborne games are WRPGs too
>>730511438yep. normalfags are like my toddler who hates foods shes never tried
>>730515052if i make japanese food in my kitchen in america am i making american food
Reminder that this is an anime website, and you shartyniggers will never be able to change that. Your raids have become anemic
>>730512581>plan ahead or prepare different tactics >average JRPG
>>730515317Yes. The J in JRPG refers to the country it was developed in, nothing more.
>>730497990They don't hate the game itself (Unless they have Pavlov dog level emptional control), they hate the army of retards who have a massive schizo breakdown over anything that looks anime but will go back to consuming dating sim wish fulfillment stories with ironic always comical writing about a bunch of aged-up manchildren killing god (or an eldritch entity or whatever) with the power of friendship as long as it has a slightly different aesthetic
>>730515570So then why do anti-Japan fags seethe whenever people claim Dark Souls is a JRPG?
>>730510817>Maelle envious of Lune's bust>Verso walks in while Lune and Sciel are bathing, he gets called a pervert and has bath stools thrown at him>Lune and Sciel walks in on Verso while he's bathing, he gets called a pervert and has bath stools thrown at him>Verso reveals he's Renoir's son, camera pans to the sky while everyone yells "EEEEEEEEH?">Monoco, the perverted old man, constantly makes lewd remarks at Lune>Lune constantly stops the gameplay to give out exposition and explain things that just happened 5 minutes ago>Sciel constantly stops the gameplay for random combat tutorials about the most basic things>Lune, Sciel, and Maelle's constant catfighting about who's going to be Verso's wife>Gustave constantly blushing and stuttering around Lune and Sciel like the average herbivore Japanese male>Lune is actually a tsundere>Maelle constantly calling Gustave and Verso Onii-chan>Sciel never had a husband, she's also a virginYeah written the exact same way
E33 is the Kaiju No. 8 of JRPGs
>>730516096The director of E33 almost exclusively plays Japanese games by the way, he has old Youtube vids of DMC5 and Sekiro and he was specifically inspired by classic Final Fantasies.Is he a "filthy weeb" to you too, you fucking retard?
>>730497990But frogslop is all those generic things. Arr rook same.
I’m loving Total Weeb Death
>People using JRPG as a Genre.
>>730516636Considering most of the threads on /v/ are about Japanese games you will never get it shartytroon
>>730515623Because they're retarded.
>China and Europe teaming up to accelerate the death of America and JapanThe future is look bright bros…
>>730516751Troons love tranime THOUGHEVER
>>730516762I like Japan, don't ever attempt to group me in with chinkoid subhumans.
E33 is an industry plant.
>>730516096Bluntly, I have never played a JRPG with romance stories as embarrassing as Expedition 33 in my life.>Sciel lets go swimming>Verso, did you know that my child died in utero when I tried to kill myself?>Lune let me find where your dead parents are>Verso we should have sex immediately
>>730516636Sharty lost, Something Awful lost, Lowtax is dead, and Froot is dying of aids.
>>730516891schizo
>>730516839Faggot
>>730516836The sharty has only lost and gotten raped
>>730516921Yeah I skipped most of the campfire conversations in E33, the writing felt very generic YA novel shit.
>>730516934Am I supposed to know what those are?
>>730516970Cry about it dog eating chink
>>730516921>>730517043You are brown.
>>730517127I’m scandi you mutt retard.
I envy them, those who can't see.Those who know not, that they are not.
>>730498092>trannychads wonkeep saying it
>>730498582>Pretentious, Backloggd using weebtard has the worst, most attention whoring taste imaginableNot surprised
>>730516921Reading comprehension on another level. There’s no romance between Sciel and Verso because she still loves Pierre and just treats Verso as fling.
Tranime lost
>>730515570This, why are people so retarded?
>>730517473Sure, but they didn't need to let you bang both Sciel and Lune in the first place. What does it add to the game or either character to have mediocre unmocapped scenes with genuinely bad dialogue accessed via a janky as fuck system so that way the player can choose which female lead they want Verso to bang? It's beyond unnecessary and adds nothing to the game whatsoever.
>>730517369Fake sadness.
>>730517636Sharty lost and will only continue to lose.You idiots would have more success if you didn't say tranime. The word only took off after the sharty was made and started raiding.
>>730518226real kino
>>730497990because jap fatigue has hit the normies and they're now saying what SA was saying before, which is that japs are a bunch of impotent pederasts and it bleeds into all of the media they produce. goons won, ni/gg/ers lost.
>>730518674>the shartynigger is still tryingthe goons didn't win shit, even they admit it
>>730518909in terms of perception of japs among westerners they 100% did and now it's seen as a chuddy position to simp for the yellow monkeys.
>>730498582Trooncore 10x10
>>730509486A genre in which every individual work is necessarily shit by virtue of inclusion in the genre is shit
Why are tranimefags crying?
>>730519879Because E33 showed their genre is only for retarded manchildren and can't be taken seriously once you have a good game to compare it to.
>>730520215These
>>730520215see >>730497990not worth debating since e33fags are frauds
>>730520543Fuck off back to your troon twitter account, Cameron
>>730520215E33 is identical to every other generic JRPG on the market.
>>730520813you should try playing it sometime because clearly you haven't.
>>730520813Then why does it make JRPG fans so mad?
>>730520813super mario rpg and paper mario? Anyway e33 roaches only pretend they like videogames and don't know those exist
>>730520813Retard.
What jrpgs even do power of friendship anymore
Clair Obscure does everything better than any other RPG in the character and storytelling department.There's so much here from occult, mythological, and classic hero journey elements there's nothing that compares.
>>730516921>>Lune let me find where your dead parents are>>Verso we should have sex immediatelythat's not how it went, which is expected from anime poster to blatantly lie.
The "HOW DARE YOU NOT ENJOY THIS ABSOLUTE MASTERPIECE OF VIDEO GAMING" E33 crowd is really fucking werd
>>730520813There are zero successful jrpgs on the market.
>>730520940Because it's getting praised for shit that isn't new or unique at all.
>>730521458PokemonLiterally any Mario RPGFinal FantasyDragon Quest
>>730521390>videogame is good only when it's about a woman crying about something
shit takesshit tastesshit threadshit site
>>730521706The performances were amazing too. What compares to it? Final Fantasy? Baldur's Gate? That shits just not in the same league. Whoever made this game was a master of the craft and I do believe it's a Masonic game with a message for other masons in it underneath the superficial elements.
>>730521567It's getting praised because it does most things exceptionally well and better than what other games are doing. As a whole, it is incredibly impressive and will change how people see games.
>>730518136>but they didn't need to let you bang both Sciel and Lune in the first place.Because it was made by French so idea of casual sex between adults is completely normal
>>730512436the most popular shonen in the past decade is about the protagonist getting a free handout, losing it, and getting another handout
Maybe the Japanese should try to write characters that aren't just based on the average anime template
>>730511674No stop. You're making too much sense. Everything has to be a race war.
>>730522353The OP faggot has a Xenoshit pfp, they don't know the first thing about good character writing. If they aren't a one-dimensional porn design, they're bad.
>>730497990I always likened it more to the image of someone reading a book but on the inside they have a nudie mag. You get to play paper mario but it doesn't LOOK like you're playing paper mario. I'm honestly surprised I can't find an example image because of the whole performative male thing.
>>730511306>dialogue is just straight up shitty, it's also simultaneously childishYou can thank Americans for that. JRPG writing, in its native language, is good.
>>730522473It's not like you have to be Shakespeare to realise that anime character writing always follows the same shitty formula.I think that's one of the reasons people like this game. Sure, it's heavily inspired by JRPGs but they had the sense to write decent characters.
>>730521960just like how people who hate rap claim to like eminem for the same reasons
>>730521390I'm sure it does the exact same thing and is nothing crazy. The story literally sounds like the FFXIII series from the synopsis I got. This is just like when people started playing Last Of Us. Which just means we'll get more games catering to this audience. Yay.
>>730522353woman/men crying about something isn't a good character
>>730521659take your meds uncit is 2026
>>730522473>>730522754Next time try to play the games
>>730498582>faggot whining about how people who don't like jrpgs like clair obscur too much>the only jrpgs on their top 100 are xenoshits and personaevery fucking time
>>730523048Why?
>>730523048>"You need to play the 1000 hour, boring MMO combat slop with bad writing before you call it bad"
>>730523090Because the writing is good? Oh and Xeno isn't just Xenoblade
>>730522853Not only is the story really special but the voice acting, soundtrack, mocap, directing etc. is exceptional. You can't hear a synopsis about it and think you've experienced the entire package.
>>730523048I will at some point. I just have other things I'm playing right now, I'm also just not a fan of QTEs in my turn-based game. I prefer full control or just straight up taking turns
>>730523165e33 is good because you can watch the entire thing on youtube?
>>730522853It does it in a way that adults can actually appreciate. Final Fantasy will never get mainstream appeal because it's for dorky weebs.
>>730523165Hating the gameplay is fine, but it seems you're just shitting on the writing because you are already pissed by the gameplay
>>730498547Neither of those games appropriated shit retard. There were harvest moon clones and Wario land 4 clones long before those 2 games you disingenuous faggot
>>730522049Battle shonen =/= shonen
>>730514362Damn you're new probably underage too
>>730522754The reason formulas become formulas in the first place is because they work. Shit doesn't get emulated or inspire future media.
>>730523362Unfortunaly battles shonens are so popular and the writing is so repetitive (like sometimes only the MC and the rival are actually written at all) most of the time people think that's the whole target/genre
I’m convinced that weebs who hate E33 only hate it because it lacks an anime aesthetic and a Japanese dev. If it had those things, they’d be sucking its cock. E33 is LITERALLY a typical JRPG plot to a t, and the reason its praised is because the execution of said plot is solid.
>>730523289I'm a weeb though. I own a fucking house asshole. I can enjoy what I want, this is just like Game Of Thrones then? We'll gather the whole family around every week to watch deformed midgets fuck their cousins, but God for bid I some 2d titties jiggle? I'm glad you guys are having fun but this shit ain't new and now i can't wait for a flood of copycats, at least Baldurs Gate 3 has way too many variables and would actually take much more effort to copy.
E33fags have finally gone full mask off. They tried to deny it for months, but we knew the truth. They hate all JRPGs and have the same Reddit-tier surface-level criticisms about fanservice and anime tropes of genre outsiders. We haven't seen such a wave of shitty normalfags flood the community since Persona 5, and this time it's even worse. They won't rest until the soul of the genre is completely extracted out and replaced with Western slop. E33 will never be a real JRPG.
>>730523289E33 is directly based on Final Fantasy. From gameplay to story art style.
>>730523598No one hates E33, we hate tourists like you.
>>730523184I just don't want to slog through hours of very mediocre gameplay to hear some shitty voice actor scream his lungs out while sad music plays in the background.Especially when I don't even care about those cardboard cutouts that call themselves the main cast.Sure, it might be appealing to the japanese but not to me. I enjoy seeing two characters argue with one another and despite only knowing a few things about them I can immediately tell that they are friends (and no, a shitty "She's my childhood friend" getting dropped 5 minutes into the game doesn't cut it, that's just lazy)
>>730523289>frauds who hate videogames should have their opinions be valued???OP faggot literally says he only "plays" for the cutscenes. This shit is as bad as bioware story only mode for mass effect. Only western games coddle to retards like this btw
>>730523598I thought Renoir's 2nd phase fight was way too anime. But the following cutscene was amazing. Besides that it just doesn't compare. Most games aren't even adult-coded. It's all teenager shit that doesn't take it's material it discusses even remotely as seriously as it should. Like E33 did. Renoir being upset about losing his daughter felt real.
>>730523450And I honestly have no idea why they work. Across genres, hell even across media it's the same shit.Sure, autists might like it because they know what to accept but I don't. It makes things very boring and predictable
>>730523080It's always projection from a psued weeboid who thinks they're the judge, jury and executioner, when they're even more basic than the people they're claiming actually hate the genre.
>>730523627The devs were massive JRPG nuts. The director even said FF8 is his favourite game of all time. Not to mention that it uses every JRPG trope in the book, right down to “teenager goes on a quest to kill god”.
>>730523598It's as much of a JRPG as RWBY is an anime. It's an imitation that doesn't actually understand what makes the thing it's copying good.
>>730497990Are you actually implying E33 has good gameplay? The aesthetic and the story are what draws people in, and the fact that it is turn based. The actual turn based combat in E33 is trash though, and you comment on generic JRPG gameplay which is a bizarre thing to say - as they have the most diverse gameplay systems of nearly any type of game. Rebirth doesnt play like Tales, which doesn't play like Persona, which doesn't play like Live a Live, which doesn't play like Fire Emblem, etc. Sheer insanity.
>>730523627E33 is the only JRPG that matters.
It's netflix slopThe people who say E33 is a good game are the same people who fagged out over shit like Stranger Things and Squid GamesThey'll say this is the greatest most impactful game ever but two years from now wont even be able to remember the name of the main character
>>730523879Also to add to this, Verso's ending alone was a masterpiece just in the pacing of it alone with how affection and family dynamics work.
>>730523905Predictable is not a criticism. How many times something has been done doesn't matter at all, only the execution does.
>>730523598>its praised is because the execution of said plot is solidWhich is something that impossible for jap devs, they can't make anything on the same level.
>>730523969>It's an imitation that doesn't actually understand what makes the thing it's copying good.can you clarify on what makes the things it is copying good?
>>730523879Renoir’s 2nd fight isn’t even the most flashy and anime-esque fight in the game. Dualliste, the Paintress and Renoir’s final fight all take the cake for that.
>>730522691>people literally describing the feelings instead of showing and alluding to them like real humans do>waxing purple prose about a total stranger like it’s fucking TwilightI like how every time weebs start whining about a JP-EN translation, it’s immediately obvious they don’t understand people and never read real books.
>>730523771I get what you mean, you're not wrong but that doesn't mean it's mediocre, it's meant to be accessible for larger audience. Xeno games before Blade weren't like that, but the they "failed" because the writing was more complex and mature, my point is that sometimes even if you have the talent, the industry rewards sales and brand power, not the writing. What was more in your face in the older games now it's hidden in the "shonen" structure you described
>>730523627I like how they act righteous on social media but are bigoted towards asians without knowing it
>>730524089And the execution is always the same. It's so bad it has become a trope.Sure, the first time Pablo Picasso showed Guernica it was very impressive. By the 1000th time it is just boring.
>>730524169>him going into a portrait of his family for the power of family love isn't the most anime
>>730523627>mask offGo back to Twitter.
>>730524280How many times you've seen something also doesn't matter
>>730524475Yes, it does.You might like a certain song but once you hear it everywhere and played by everyone it might get on your nerves and ypu ask yourself why they can't do something new
>OP seething over some random tweet from several months ago>What the tweet is saying is completely true>Scroll through the replies>They further prove the tweet was correct
>>730524247Anime and Japanese media in general is dumbed down compared to what it used to be. They realised that writing wish fulfilment fantasies and pandering to waifufags was way more profitable than writing the kino they produced in the 20th century. E33 feels like a return to form to that more nuanced style of storytelling than a lot of Japanese media has left behind.
I think the best part about E33 is that it doesn't waste your fucking time and streamlines a bunch of shit about RPGs that was never good.>Stockpiling 99 potions and never using Elixirs? They refill at every save point so you can use them whenever you want>Want to play a Blue Mage without pulling your hair out? You just need Monoco in your party when it's defeated, and there's a handy icon>Respec items are like candy, lets you actually experiment with different builds without having to restart>Levels are all linear instead of open, lets you loop back to grab shit without needing to hug a wall for hours at a time>Has the main story be low level for the dumbest people alive, and a bunch of high-level content available for crazy people that like to break the game open early. Also helps prevent grindingI don't need every JRPG to have E33's combat system, but I wouldn't mind them grabbing from their itemization because holy fuck I'm sick of buying 10 Golden Needles and every status effect clear item in a FF only to never use any of them.
>>730519879>>730520215why did the sharty lose?
>>730524293That’s his 3rd fight. The second one is the one with the lion, which is still pretty anime, but not the most anime.
>>730498160>defending Eminem because he’s White>>>/pol/
>>730497990>isn't bogged down by the generic gameplay>has turn-cringe combatyeah ok
>>730523627The Japanese should make more tactics games. I generally like those. If they want to make an interesting jrpg just look at sansara naga or the romancing saga games or even chrono trigger.
>>730497990E33 is perfect for the post-covid "weeb" crowd. It's for the same people who "love anime" but only watch the most mainstream shit and constantly feel the need to disavow any "yucky" elements. "I love X show, but the fanservice is bad", "I love x but that character is LITERALLY 16 why did they sexualize her???". They want the idea of anime, the idea of a JRPG but sanitized to their western tastes, with nothing weird, nothing that challenges their sensibilities.
>>730516342NTA, but FF is by far the least weeb JRPG series there is, maybe with the exception of Front Mission. His preferences would be eyebrow raising if he were a diehard fan of Tales, Persona and Nihon Falcom and claimed that as his inspiration, but FF and Sekiro are as normal as it gets.
>"Finally, a shonen where the protagonist isn't teenager!">"But he still acts like one so nothing is actually different"The Kaiju No 8 comparison is appropriate
>>730524669I agree, i have little faith in the modern industry in general, but i'm glad E33 exists and i hope it can have a long term impact on companies, not because of its art style or other superficial details, but to show that there still is a large audience interested in more adult stories
I have anti-japan fatigue.
>>730524906To be fair, pedophilia is quite a taboo for people so I can't blame them if they think panty shots of 12-year olds are yucky.Not to mention that these elements don't really add anything
>>730524674I do think they went too far with making the main story bosses easy though. The final boss is a total joke if you’re even slightly overlevelled, which is a waste because the fight is absolutely kino otherwise. Also, I think the fact that physical and magic attacks are tied to the same stat makes it way too easy to become overpowered by dumping all your points into Might.
>>730523598i hate E33 because the gameplay is trash and the story is for millenial s o y boys, the devs being leftist faggots who support globohomo EU is just a bonus
>>730524906E33 has an attractive 16 year old that the game lets you unlock a skimpy outfit for though.
>>730524247>xeno games before blade failed because the writing was more complex and mature>acting as if gears and saga weren't also shonen as fuck
>>730523345Would you recommend a few? Wario Land 4 and Pizza Tower are my shit, but I couldn't get into Anton Blast.
>>730502103>Is this a common thing then?Extremely.Eminem's success is largely down to him and Dr Dre knowing how to write good hooks and his songs not being unrelatable bix nood muh dick nonsense. Most hip-hop producers couldn't write a half-decent hook if you put a gun to their head.
>>730517847For some reason normalfags got the idea into heir heads that Japan only makes 4 niggas in a row with anime style and anything from Japan not following that formula isn't actually a JRPG. They also wonder why JRPG's never change.....despite considering nothing else except 4 nogs in a row as a JRPG if it's made in Japan.
>>730524987E33 isn't any more adult than most JRPGs.
>>730525236>E33 has an attractive>UE5slop big heads>attractivestopped reading there
>>730524247There is no "shonen" structure, that's not a thing.
>>730524674If anything, it's part of what I don't like about the game. What's the point of save points if you don't even get punished for dying? What's the point of using potions during exploration if you can just restart a fight when you die? What's the point of exploring in the first place when there's no risk in exploration? Admittedly, this is shit that a bunch of modern games have done, I know Fatlus lets you just restart a fight on death in some games, but I hate this shit.
>>730497990Fag or not, he's right in that tourists with spicy takes will always be annoying. You'll have people claiming that the genre is dead and perpetually stagnant, yet they'll struggle to name 10 even somewhat recent JRPGs they've played. Ban them from naming Atlus or Squeenix titles, and you should be extremely impressed if they can still name 10. Further ban them from counting multiple games from the same franchise, and you should dap them up if they're even still willing to make an attempt.
>>730524615Literally everything that's possible has been done.
>>730525125>the devs are racist white supremacists!>no wait, they're leftists!
>>730497990People are sick of playing as high schoolers killing God with the power of friendship.
>>730525578they're Macroncucks, you know the guy who does coke in public and supports islamization of Europe? I don't think thats very white and racist anon
>>730525498Being overly negative and dismissive about things is just an easy way to come off as smart or superior. That's why the nitpicking critique youtuber sells so well to people, especially younger folk who are entranced by the negativity.
>>730525594E33 isn’t that much different in that regard. It’s a bunch of middle aged adventurers and a high school aged girl killing god with the power of friendship.
>>730525594You didn't play the game.
>>730525594>instead they got old ugly people killing the god
>>730516096the funny part of this is that E33 was written by an Asian woman.
>>730524669I think the main problem with today’s Japanese writing is that today’s creators did not grow up reading books from other countries (or even Japanese literature) and watching international movies like the older creators — they grew up on anime and manga, most of which was aimed at small children to boot. So today’s creators tend to make copies of juvenile, simplified anime works they were surrounded with, and they have little experience with more mature and artistically diverse literature and filmmaking.
>>730525594That almost never happens in JRPGs.
>>730525273Even "Barefoot Gen" was published on a shonen magazine, shonen doesn't mean "male MC and female childhood friend on a coming of age narrative against come evil guy">>730525456You're right, i just meant the common tropes used in popular battle shonen anime
>>730525903I doubt it. Her and her self-insert are heavily masonic coded. If she did I wonder what degree she but something tells me there's more to this than just her.
>>730524669The most iconic and influential piece of Japanese media from the 20th century is fucking Dragon Ball, a gag manga that devolved into mindless fights.
>>730525467Losing progress is a thing of the past grandpa, there's no benefit to a long dungeon run followed by a grueling boss fight where dying means losing a substantial amount of progress and having to do it all over again. That's just going to frustrate players and lead to them dropping the game. >what's the point of save points if you don't even get punished for dyingTo restock on consumables which are limited between each use of a save point and to allocate stats and skill points.>what's the point of using potions during explorationDying and having to start a battle over again is annoying. Being at full health before a battle means you're less likely to die, unless you're running a build that needs characters at 1 HP. >what's the point of exploring in the first place when there's no risk in explorationTo find goodies to enhance your party.
>>730497990how does this person square his analogy with the fact that Eminem is actually one of the very best artists in his genre?so much so that any other artist in the genre will tell you the same thing
>>730525941Oh that’s absolutely the case. Old anime was a marriage of eastern and western influences, whereas modern anime is a copy of other anime, getting more diluted each time. You can actually see this in how weebs lack media literacy as well. They’re basically like Marvelfags who act like their corporate slop is high art.
>>730525941The age of the target audience has never impacted how something is written. It only affects how much blood and nudity you can show.
>>730526240And it absolutely mogged any form of western comic or cartoon, to the point that it couldn't even be called a competition anymore.
>>730526240Yeah, that and Evangelion
>>730497990>that isn't bogged down by the generic gameplayit's literally paper mario but NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN
>>730526312>redditor unironically believes this
>>730526263Because the idea of being better than the supposedly real "I hate rap, but I love Eminem" crowd is in itself a hipster poser position, and nowhere is that more clear than when you look at that weeb's grid here >>730498582
>>730526312The most popular battle shonen in recent history takes inspiration from western superhero comics. Japan still gets inspiration from western media.
>>730525941you've just described the problem with modern writers in general, not just with animeit's all painfully self referential
>>730526470A hit dog always hollers.
>>730511246>There's a million>remember only one of them?What are the other 999,999? I guarantee you can't even list ten despite it being such a widespread phenomenon in your mind. Hard mode: no googling "western jrpg list" or anything similar.
>>730525941This. It's not about the topics or concepts. The writing itself is just shit. It's true for a lot of asian games. You can cut most dialogue in half. You can cut half the dialogue out. No need to have characters repeat what was just spoken.>This must be the work of the Terra Orb.>Terra Orb?You do not need to flashback to something that happened earlier in an episode. You do not need to explain simple concepts like everyone is 4 year olds. The writing is so mechanical too and dragged out too. I used to think it was translators' fault but no, the original texts are bad too.>I found Juno standing by herself in the market. Strange. Whenever Juno goes to the market she's with Ashe or Fella. I wonder why today is so different? I better go talk to her.>One dialogue box shows up, forcing you to select "Approach Juno">First half of conversation with Juno will be you and her reiterating what you already said.
hope you guys realize your replies to bait in this latrine are being used by jeets to make money on twitter
E33 was made by some French weebs who liked jRPG combat, and the wokies hijacked it to use as a vehicle for their racist anti-Japan attitudes and their belligerent wokie religion.
>posts single slightly negative thing concerning E33>jeet shills go into overdriveevery single time kek
>>730526557Nigger this is basically a yearly occurrence at this point, did you already forget sea of shills? chained cuckolds? cuckold project?
By the way, they are going to kill you all soon.
>>730526603If twittards make money off us, what do retards posting twitter screencaps here get
>>730526484>Faggots will tell you E33 is a bad game>And then like absolute dogshit like this
>>730526312It's funny when people who adamantly refuse to actually interact with a medium start talking about media literacy.
>>730526717From what we see of the painters the writers might very well be the good guys.
>>730526717the french will sooner get their necks slit wide open by the brownies they let in and protect.
>>730526509That's not a flaw, that's literally how storytelling has always evolved throughout history.
Mooom Anon's making up things to get angry about again
It's funny, because immediately after starting E33, I could tell it had stolen the plot from xenoblade 3, I even guessed it would end up being some sort of fake reality they were living in.
>>730526240>>730526443There were a lot of hugely influential Japanese pieces of media throughout the 20th century. On the anime and manga side of things, the big groundbreaking and influential ones that still influence the medium today were things like:>Evangelion>DBZ>Akira>The Rose of Versailles>Berserk>Space Battleship Yamato>GundamJust to name a few.That’s not even touching on live action Japanese movies like Kurosawa films, which ended up being a huge influence on western film.
>>730526258I know you're just trolling, but I do think that when it comes to people talking about being influenced by certain things, E33 does suffer from implementing mechanics because other games did it, whether or not they make sense in the context of the game or mesh with the mechanics. Why do they have timed commands on attacks? Because other games had it, despite the fact that the attack commands may as well be random QTEs because they don't line up with the character's actions at all. It's pointless busywork. You have dungeon exploration and items that help you heal in dungeons, despite the fact that the game's systems and being able to retry fights on death destroys the purpose of those very systems, because other JRPGs had items and dungeons. Why have save points when all of the previous points destroy the very reason you'd have save points? May as well just let people save anywhere. I'm not saying the game is even bad or unenjoyable, but it's as if people have forgotten the purpose of the systems they consider outdated.
> >>730526365You know it very much has, anon. Children will care little for a political thriller, a historical deep dive, a meditation on terminal illness and what you leave behind, or a story about a failing marriage in the old age. And it’s not because they’re stupid, but simply because their lack of lived experience means these works won’t speak to them the way they do to people much older.
>I hate video games, BUT...Remember, these people are game companies' new target audience.
>>730498160>white are people succeeding
>>730526806The painted world is obviously this current world. The Painters and Writers are occult fraternities against the other but have common ground.The whole thing is about starting a new age and letting the fake world (this world) die for something greater since they'll be the new gods with the help of Ai.
>>730523632final fantasy isn't anime
>>730527046this is the average E33jeet btw
>>730526815it is a flaw when you aren't pulling from other things outside of what you're makingit's the difference between referencing something because it's useful for improving the story you're making and referencing something because this is the thing you know and seeing it will make your recognition center light upit's superficial and lazy
>>730527035As a kid, I took an interest in these subject matters precisely BECAUSE I had little experience with them and it was a window into that world. Of course, I also like more typical kiddy shit too, but I appreciated both.
I dont know what you faggots are smoking when you say E33 doesn't have jarpig tropes. Its filled with it.Hell listen to this track it could be from any PS2 jarpig from the early 00shttps://youtu.be/L0XAhUI3c6k?t=67
>final fantasy isn't anime
>>730498160Korra
>>730526815It is when your reverence pool is tiny and monotonous. There’s a reason it’s said that in order to be a good writer, you need to be a good reader first.
I was liking E33's writing up to the point where Gustave died and was then immediately replaced by Gustave but cooler. Then I thought it was stupid all the way to the ending, especially since it turned out to just be FFTA but you can go against Marche
>>730527389the soundtrack in Expedition 33 is so bad holy fuckHow could this slop win?There were way better and actually unique soundtracks that weren't even nominated lol
>>730527389It’s a cope from people who don’t want to admit that E33 does the same thing as Japanese JRPGs and that the aesthetic is the only difference.
>>730527510>the soundtrack in Expedition 33 is so bad holy fuckgood bait
>>730527407NTA but the artstyle they've been using since 8 and 10 is not anime, it's the same artsyle that games like Resident Evil and Bayonneta use.
>>730527046Yeah, it's because it promises NEW customers and the shareholders expect people who are in to already be in, which is why I won't buy the game at full price. Even if it IS a fair price desu
>>730527317So did I, but I remember my young self well enough to say that adult topics just didn’t hold the same weight to me then as they do now. The perspective was too different. It’s a great thing for kids to consume works not aimed at their age group and it can teach them a lot, but the impact at the time is not nearly the same.
>>730527589With actual decent performances, beautiful music, and presented in a way that makes you think - not just "Sepiroth bad" Every story has been done. It's how it's told and how much passion went in and the little things. I guarantee that you missed. Like Monoco's theme being "Bow wow wow" and him having sticks on his back because he's a dog.
>>730526815it's literally "AI eating nothing but AI produced slop until it's gibberish" but for human mind
>>730497990Expedition 33 is more like a Tarantino movie than an Eminem album. It's a project with a big budget and mainstream production value, made by fans of the medium, and is basically a passionately made patchwork of all the devs' favorite ideas from games they've played. It has its own bespoke target audience, it's not made to appeal to die hard fans of those genres it borrows from, though some do like it as a loving pastiche, while others are alienated by its subversion of what they love. It's designed to be cool, exciting, emotional and enjoyable, rather than deep, intricate, or intellectually challenging.
>>730527908Also the fact that once you realize everything that Verso did in fact let Gustave die.
>>730527649>anime is only defined by an artstyle
>>730498582>assault spy???????
>>730527796>and the shareholders expect people who are in to already be inAnd they are now slowly learning this is not, in fact, true.
>>730498092This is truth. It doesn't matter if the material treats it's deeper themes with respect and dignity, anime tropes, style, or humor is poison to reaching a wider audience. The core message, narrative, or themes from a title like Xenoblade 2 doesn't matter. Normies see shit like the stupid scene of Mythra doing the equivalent of "KYAAAA!!!! B-BAKA!!!!" from waking up in Rex's bed after sleepwalking into and find it so bad it has tainted perception of the entire series in the eyes of some people even if in context stupid scenes like that all serve a narrative purpose of being reflective of Rex's main character arc of self-actualizing from a literal young boy to the form of adult he needs to be to emotionally connect and save his suicidally depressed sword gf who has been leading him on a quest to ultimately kill herself. It's the same nuance of how you can have people who love the original FF7 but hate the remakes not because of the time jannies or splitting the game into 3 parts but because the remake's method of delivery for it's narrative leans more into anime tropes than what you could have extrapolated from the PS1 version. It is a clear cultural and generational divide that will only change when either one culture changes into something more relatable to the other or from newer generations growing up on such cultural media outnumber the older generations who just find that shit weird.
>>730528024>Also the fact that once you realize everything that Verso did in fact let Gustave dieyeah, Verso coming out and straight up telling you he let Gustave die was a big hint
>>730504901that's some pretty insane cope ngl
>>730527389>when you say E33 doesn't have jarpig tropesyou understand that music is not a trope you retarded gorilla?>it could be from any PS2 jarpig from the early 00sokay, give us songs from FF released in that period that is similar to that, I'm curious
I absolutely hate this modern cycle where anytime a good game comes out, fags have to immediately create an artificial conflict of pitting it against every other decent game, because modern kids can't just like a thing without needing to feel like some kind of rebel hipster. I miss when you could just like a game without the fanbase just endlessly screeching "X WON, Y FAGS LOST".
>>730527610>thirdies believe this
>>730527589Even aesthtically it has that same melodramatic jarpig vibe from the PS2 era with overuse of depth of field and random shit flying aroundhttps://youtu.be/44JSpu8DWsA?t=119https://youtu.be/UUVw37UD9Cc?t=174
>>730528264He never said that and Verso being at odds with Renoir would make it seem like he would have wanted, or have no reason to not save Gustave... until the actual twist and revelation. Stop pretending like you thought about it or it was anyway obvious.
>>730504901You mean, 5 years from now you and your discord buddies will still be seething about the game just like you continue to seethe and whine about every popular game released in the past decade
>>730521706>the penis-envy self-insert female protagonist
>>730523598Then explain why I didn't like JRPGs until E33.
>>730528382I like triggering those queers by saying I like bothI enjoyed E33, but I also love trails and utawarerumonoand I like that it makes redditors and queers on /v/ angry
>>730528434https://youtu.be/c17YTgxMZDU?si=k6_IvbqJG8FBQHnscut to 3:00
>>730528205Which is funny considering those tropes exists solely as an attempt to reach a wider audience, like the normies who don't care about themes but only care about fanservice and want a generic harem shit story, i hate that the industry "depends" on the tastes and desires of casual normalfags, this is not gatekeeping, it's that those people don't give af about the thing itself, it's just a time waster like any other for them
>>730498092>high quality Netflix seriesLol, you had me up until there. You are baiting.
>>730528582Absolutely Based taste fellow games enjoyer.
>>730528636I missed that bit of dialogue. I was going off what happened and piecing it together. But he actually admits it, lol. I guess that would make sense too given everything.
I haven't played but I've seen some gameplay of E33 but isn't it still a game? How is the difficulty? Are these people just playing easy mode and doing absolute bare minimum of gameplay?
>>730528109Literalwho indie slop that the twitter trannoid included to appear cool and deep
>>730497990>>730498092Is it just me or is this discussion super artificial? I feel like most people who enjoy E33 also enjoy JRPGs and anime and all that.
>>730528785no we don't lol
>>730528205Tbf, people complaining about generic anime tropes in JRPGs is something that’s been going on since the 90s. Any Millennial who WASN’T in love with Final Fantasy often dunked on it for the weirder and more kid friendly moments, as well as the Nomura boyband aesthetic designs.I think it was tolerable in the VII-X FFs, but got worse as the series went on. And those joke pervert scenes DO take you out of the experience if they’re not integrated elegantly enough.
>>730528785well this is the most astroturfed game in recent memory so yes everything about it is inauthentic including the people who talk about it
>>730528785Yes, they took the absolute extremes (like the post in the OP) to create artificial flame
>>730497990>generic gameplay and writing tropes, overly long run time and boring gameplay loopThat perfectly describes E33
>>730528785Yeah, it's just that E33 raised the bar is all which the weebs have a problem with.
>>730528425I don't understand what the fuck you're trying to say by showing those two videos, especially since JRPG video has no depth of field use
>>730528919The bar of what?
>>730528785First time on /v/?
>>730528382>>730497990It's extremely forced and retarded, made to bait retards. This is especially obvious when you can see that E33 was inspired by Japanese games that "weebs" would like and they would probably find this whole thing of niggers using their game for some sort of east west flavor of console war retarded. How did this obvious bait thread get so many replies?
>>730528957dialogue, writing and characters in jrpg
>>730528957Literally everything but the combat. I didn't think the combat was that great but some people really thought it was revolutionary.
>>730528980We are dumb.
>>730529021>dialogueNothing special>charactersBoring
in 5 years every new traditional rpg from japan will have parries
>>730528957the bar of sloppanot even Starfield was this bad
>>730529021More like it returned the bar to what it used to be. JRPGs as good as E33 used to be more common, but they stopped making them once the 7th gen hit.
>>730528205>Normies see shit like the stupid scene of Mythra doing the equivalent of "KYAAAA!!!! B-BAKA!!!!" from waking up in Rex's bed after sleepwalking into and find it so bad it has tainted perception of the entire series in the eyes of some people evenIf game/book/film has no respect for me with scenes like this shit you describe, of course I would walk out and not interact with it, even if story promises something better in the future
>>730529041But what if we wuz smart?
>>730529118Yeah man we need to watch Goku powerup for 2 episodes and Vegeta bicker with Bulma, hahaha.Oh and sephiroth when he reveals he might have a reason for doing what he's doing, holy moly. Gustave's dying performance >>>> Aerith's any day.
>>730528957The real bar was just E33 cutting out all the typical filler and grinding that most JRPGS have to make them all last about a 100 hours each. The only ones who think E33 has the best writing in the entire genre are the people who have only ever played Persona or Final Fantasy.
>>730497990>the I hate rap, but I love Eminem" crowdWhat did xhe mean by this?
>>730529217What DB has to do with JRPGs?The Gustave/Aeris thing is just personal preference
>>730526601Yep. And it gets even worse whenever the script tries to get to the emotional parts.>”Juno, you always look sad lately. What’s wrong?”>”Oh, my parents fight a lot since my sister has moved away. Mom is unhappy because she misses her, and dad is always busy with work. It makes me so mad to see it, I can’t believe they are so selfish!”>”That sucks. Deia and I are planning to go to the beach on Saturday, want to join us? It will be fun, I promise. I really want to see you smile again!”>”Really? Thanks, I’m so happy! I’m so glad you’re my friend!”Now, the general idea behind this conversation is fine, but these aren’t people, these are exposition machines telling you at every step what’s going on and how they feel. Human beings don’t work that way, but this shit is everywhere in Asian games.
>>730529312>The only ones who think E33 has the best writing in the entire genre are the people who have only ever played Persona or Final Fantasy.So then what does have the best writing in the entire genre?
>>730528947Its literally filled with DOF.You really cant see similarities? The hair moving by the inexisting wind, the characters moving slowly to look cool, the camera stopping during several seconds on the villain face while he smiles as the theme starts playing.Thats just jarpig tropes you can find in most of cinematics from that time.
>>730529404Kingdom Hearts.
>>730529312Yeah, i unironically can't play longer games anymore if i learn that the majority of that time is padding and not something related to the story
>>730529137This. The devs have outright said there tastes in JRPGs stopped at 2008 with Lost Odyssey. The game is a complete love letter to the days when JRPGs meant something.
>>730529383In short, this is how Asian humans act. Or rather, it's a facsimile of how Asian humans think they themselves act, poorly translated into English.If you know you know.
>>730529361It's just to illuminate that most people like slop. Believe me, it took me 8 months to play E33 because I know most people are cattle. I only played it because I took some time off and had time to kill. I don't even have that much affinity to it, except for my own personal reasons. It's not even subjective is what I'm saying. The performances, the music, the attention to detail is just a cut above the rest. It just is, I'm sorry.
>>730505892women also love devil may cry, maybe they just have good taste.
>>730529312E33 actually reminds me of Kingdom Hearts in a lot of ways. Both are games about love and existentialism that also don’t stretch out for too and are over in about 20-30 hours.
>The game is a complete love letter to the days when JRPGs meant something
>>730497990E33 doesn't actually do anything new. The people actually are racist because the only difference is that it's French and they're lying to themselves that the Japanese games are any different in reality
>>730529507God I still fucking hate what the PS360 console generation did to the Japanese industry.
>>730529404It depends on the type of plot, like Xenogears and Final Fantasy Tactics are two completely different plots with completely different themes, just what kind of theme you like the most
Camerontrannies... we lost...
>>730529627you weren't even alive back then zoomie-kun
>>730529564jesse what the fuck are you talking about
>>730529404Comparing the quality of writing in JRPGs is kind of like asking which Transformers movie is the best. I mean sure there probably is one that is better than the others, but they're all such lamentably awful garbage that the idea of anyone actually taking the time to consider the quality of one over the other is laughable.
>>730529615Japan hasn’t made a JRPG on E33’s level for more than a decade.
>>730529773You should play something other than Pokemon before saying that
>>730529684No, he's a right, Japan was a joke in the gaming space from 2007 to 2017 when RE7 dropped.
>>730529801well E33's level is dogshit so FFXV is somewhere close to it
>>730529801Metaphor?
>>730529801Xenoblade
>>730529850lol no
>>730529404Hard to pick a single game, but the SNES and PS1 renaissance had a treasure trove of incredible writing fighting against the immense limitations of the hardware. Stuff like Terranigma and Illusion of Gaia, especially with modern patches that add more faithful touches to the wonky cheap localizations of the times. Though of course these are the exact games that inspired E33 in the first place cause the devs have all been open weebs in all their interviews.
>Entire thread is the Twitter troon getting dismantled by E33 chadsBased, I hope that leftie troon 42%s.
>>730529913zero cultural impact, completely forgotten after 3 months
>>730529801Shin Megami Tensei IV, you fucking moron
>>730529627“We want the CoD audience” did such catastrophic damage to the industry that we’re still recovering to this day.
>>73053005813 year old game.
>>730529943HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAThanks for the laugh before the thread dies.
>>730529913Metaphor is the very definition of clumsy exposition dumping, inhuman characters and pointless verbiage today’s JRPGs suffer from.
>>7305122792016 election tourists and 2001 Xbox dudebro tourists.
>>730530147No problem ;)
>>730530141Jesus... Must have missed five of those years. Time is scary...
>>730529609>implying that hating JRPGs isn't one of the most normie opinions ever
I have antiweeb fatigue
I think the sountrack made me appreciate E33 a lot more than I should have and overlook a lot of flaws. Same thing happened when I played the Nier series.Devs, especially western, tend to forget how important it is.To me its just bellow gameplay.
What JRPGs do E33 fans even like that isn't E33? They just laugh at and hate everything else
>>730529441Shadow of Heart video HAD ZERO depth of field effect to emphasize something on foreground or background.Scenes are basic - shot reverse shot or wide shot. This is exactly opposite of Renoir cutscene, with constant use of DOF to show put importance on one character on another, constant camera movement >The hair moving by the inexisting wind, the characters moving slowly to look cool, the camera stopping during several seconds on the villain face while he smiles as the theme starts playing.you're mentally disabled, none of that are JRPG tropes, that universal effects, YEAH WALKING SLOWER IS MORE DELIBERATE THAN WALKING FAST JAPAN DIDN'T INVENT THAT IN 2000s
>>730530353It’s standout because E33 is a rare western game that actually has a maximalist and bombastic soundtrack. Most western games treat soundtracks as a purely ambient thing.
>>730530431None, E33 made JRPGs good.
>>730530431I like Kingdom Hearts, SMT (not Persona, because it sucks) and FF.
>>730529943this
>>730530431I love Romancing Saga
>>730529913full of worst anime writing
>>730530431they like other woke slops like Metaphor
>>730515570jrpg was always a retarded genre to begin with, it's meaningless but over time it managed to get some identity along with codesThus E33 managed to have the codes of what a "jrpg" feel like
>>730530431Chrono Trigger
>>730530719Yeah that is my second favorite jrpg.
>>730529404Vagrant StoryXenogearsUtawarerumonoLost Odyssey Rance XRance 7TWEWYSuikoden 2+3Chrono Trigger13 Sentinels (depends on if you consider it to be a jrpg)NierDDS 1+2Skies of ArcadiaFFXRadiant HistoriaKoudelkaThe legend of DragoonFF6FF9Trails series pre-CS3FFTTactics Ogre (original)Valkyrie ProfileFire Emblem Path of RadianceTriangle StrategyDQVBreath of Fire 3All of these and more are better than E33. I like E33.
>>730531086desu
>>730531086thanks for including rance high up so I don't have to read any further
>>730531086It's a shame what happened to trails after cold steel
>>730530431Final Fantasy series, Xenogears, Xenosaga 1, Chrono Trigger/Cross, Front Mission 3 & 5, Digital Devil Saga. I also remember liking Shadow Hearts 1 back in the day.
>>730510185I don't get the argument of playing a cartoony game and getting upset that characters are exaggerated and silly. This is the kind of thinking that churns out "award bait"You are still very much capable of having an emotional core attachment to a silly cast of characters.
>>730531558Most of the E33 people seem to think that enjoyment from a outlandish over the top cast that acts in a non-realistic manner means it's bad. Sad way of thinking.
>>730525236>skimpy outfitZoomers are the most cucked generation
>>730531702I'm tired of outlandish over the top cast that acts in a non-realistic manner
>>730531702>>730531558>You are still very much capable of having an emotional core attachment to a silly cast of charactersBecause any serious scene of such silly characters instantly becomes jarring and not serious
>>730531834>meanwhile millenials kiss the feet of niggers on the streets in public and literally engage in cuckoldrysure thing saar
>>730531702the current trending character trope in western media is the cynical joke character that realizes they're a character they hate in media. Really telling when the westerner's favorite character type is the one that sends a message that nothing matters unless it's approved by israel and explains the OP
I like art that takes itself seriously. If someone makes a joke out of their own art they're not serious and it's not worth taking in. Games almost never take themselves seriously but E33 does.
>>730532457>Gommage happens>Get slaughtered after landing>Immediately encounter wacky mime afterTalk about jarring
