Will indie devs ever start actually trying or is it just cut corners and shortcuts until the end of time
>>730510235Spyro has a larger budget than indie shit
>>730510335>you need a AAAA budget to change the hue of a texture Cope and excuses until the end of time it is then
>>730510335I don't know why the fuck I read the first part of your post as "Spyro has a larger butt"
>>730510335Modern AAA studios usually work with a budget that's order of magnitudes larger, and they still fuck it up
I think pure white simple creature is a charming look desu.
>>730510235but classic fantasy dragons (at least wetern) are almost always either red or black
>>730510546You love slop
>>730510434Larger budget means larger teams with hundreds of trained people that know what they're doing.
>>730510575The word "slop" has been overused so much that it has lost all meaning. Your post is postslop.
>>730510553Nah they're considered flying lizards
spyro looks like ass THOUGHBEIT
>>730510235You gotta realise that the majority of people are not artistally talented whatsoever, that's why most AI slop looks like shit, not because it's made by AI, but because it's made by talentless idiots. And if you're making a game you're more likely to know how to code rather than how to create art.
Ah yes, the "make stuff up to get mad at" thread, very nice
>>730510235Baba is You contrasts well against the black background I don't get your complaint
>>730510587>you need hundreds of trained devs to change the hue of a textureYou’re not even arguing, just spouting nonsense
itt: anon makes up a hypothetical to get angry at himself
So the indie dev would solve the problem in exactly the same way?
>>730510587A total of 14 people worked on Spyro, 3-4 of which were artistsIf you're making a game you're trying to sell for money, looking up free information online on how to make it better should be the standard, not some exalted outlierThe color chart in the OP image is one of the first things you'll encounter in ANY of the thousands of free art resources online but even that is beyond the scope of the vast majority of indie devs who are allergic to improving
>>730510835>>730510685Tranny samefag
>>730510685>>730510835
>>730510587>being trained means you know what you're doingTell that to the Concord team
>>730510835that's a nice chunk of the threads in this board
>>730510967I'd like to order more unoriginal indie slop please
>>730510967>posting games wehre almost all of them have extremely dark color palettes as background so the main character is a contrasting color to stand out moreyes, you are making things up to get angry at
>>730510967How many indie games were released last year on steam?
>>730511108>making actually sensible backgrounds that look like something? but that's hard!>white protagonist on black background it is thenLazy. Soulless. Slop.
>>730510498Explain this shit on your PicI want games like picrel
>>730510967>Downwell>the game that is literally black and white (or green/red/purple/orange)
>>730511243>back in my day characters contrasted with their backgrounds>now i am getting mad where characters contrast with their backgroundsdo you think reasonable people dream up things to get angry at all the time? do you think it's good for your heart to do this?
>>730510967Wow, eight characters over the course of seven years had a similar color palette. Really compelling stuff, anon.
>>730511358>back in my day devs made actual characters and environments and made sure they still have contrast for readability >now devs are making black and white games or putting yellow paint on everything to save themselves the effort of making actual characters and environments and also making sure they have contrast for readability How do you manage to breathe when you're this retarded
>>730510445cause your gay
>>730511571>bringing up an entirely unrelated thing to keep getting mad atanon there are plenty of modern games that dont do this. you are looking for things to get angry. that is not what sane people do
>>730511635>deflectingConcession accepted, better luck next time
>>730511770>literally conceding i accept your concession
>>730511862You concession was accepted, that means you can stop posting as you admitted you had no argument
>>730510235>GENIUS SOLUTION: Make him purple>MONKEY SLOP: Make him white
>>730511949This
>>730510434It goes deeper than that, and I'll be pressed to find an indie dev today that can pull off pic related, and no tldr'ing, or you admit you don't have the mental capacity to understand why Spyro's visuals are the way they are.
>>730511272A lot of modern developers are retarded. They've seen fog obscure distant mountains in real life, and think they need to have the same effect in their games. But unlike real life, their games don't have that many views where you can see distant mountains, so they bring the fog in closer to give the illusion of objects in the distance being further away, making the world feel larger. This sort of fog can also help separate distant objects to get a better feel for how far they are from each other, which can help give a sense of distance. The side effect, however, is that a lot of games look washed out, as everything is seen through a thin layer of fog. Kind of like if someone added another layer in Photoshop to an image, painted that layer white, and set it to 5% opacity. It works in theory, but looks fucking awful in practice. Again, a lot of modern developers are retarded
>>730511580But I only want to fuck the goat
>>730512048That's nice but it's just the game's style guide, it has nothing to do with gameplay related player character contrast
wish more games looked like picrel
>>730510434>>730510764>MY GREEN DRAGON BLENDS IN WITH MY GREEN GRASS>I'll change his color to make him pop :)>MY KAWAII UGUU CREATURE BLENDS IN WITH MY DARK ASS ENVIRONMENT>I'll change his color to make him pop :)Conclusions are left as a trivial exercise for the reader.
>>730512489Why is the dark ass environment dark ass anon
>>730511949If you are gonna make a very colorful game you need to have an exclusive and striking color for your MC.And yeah, purple is a very good option, because green/blue/yellow/red are usually used for other things. Purple is not something you find easily in nature
>>730510235It was a common thing in the old games. Another example is the silencer from the crusader series, his armor is bright red, so you can always easily keep track of him.
>>730510723This is the case with most of the characters on the "indie slop" white character image here.>>730510967>SlugcatDark environments and narrow tunnels, and the simplified design means they can have him move fluidly without worrying about it looking messy.>OriWhole game is dark blues and greens, and often well zoomed-out.>The KnightIn addition to keeping him visible, his white helmet is a unifying theme among most of the sentient insects. It implies a sense of belonging and placement.>WuppoYou mostly go through caves and dark places. Some areas are zoomed out so having him contrast highly is important. Plus you can customize his colour, so white works as a default.>MinitWhole game is black-and-white. If the visuals were flipped the glare would make it uncomfortable to play.>DownwellSame as Minit.>FezHaven't played.
>>730512884see >>730512573
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>>730510967The secret that nobody wants to admit is that every western indie game is just aping Cave Story.
>>730513120false, I'm aping Dragon's Dogma
>>730513219*every successful western indie game
>>730513120>is just aping Cave Story.You forgot something.
>>730510235>some dipshit 4channer thinks Color Theory is 4D Chess
>>730513298
>>730512349>gameplay related player character contrast...They made him purple because he blended with the environments, which affects the gameplay if people can't see him in the grass.
>>730513501Yes that is what the post you replied to said
>>730513931...Fucking hell, I hate bad faith faggots like you.
>>730511358Found the lazy indie dev. It's more accurate to say>back in my day, video games had backgrounds.
>>730511272this looks like ass lol
>>730510235Why didn't they just make him red like a classic dragon?
>>730512573To set the tone, retard. Every single one of these "white creature in a black space" games is set in a place that's meant to be super simple (Baba), oppressive (Slugcat, Hollow Knight), or contrasting with sources of light (Ori)
OP has been making daily indie game seethe threads for a literaly decadeI am 100% convinced it's the same retarded faggot making the "What causes this" threads
>>730510967These games are all fun so who gives a fuck? I guess they cut corners in the right places
>>730514991Spyro also uses a lot of red.
>>730510235>>730510967>>730511949>white character badNice try, Shlomo
>>730515143Anon, there's no red in that image.
>>730510967>8 videogame characters in 15 years were white>clearly this means literally every single indie dev does itcope and dilate
>>730510335>Spyro has a larger budget than indie shitBut these techniques and knowledge aren't arcane knowledge and should, in theory, be more commonly known nowadays.
>>730515019It's actually meant for gay retards in order to state a lot of nonsensical bullshit about videogames so they can look interesting on social media
>>730515794Yellow/orange also contain green and purple is directly adjacent to pink or red, anon. I feel like you don't remember the colour wheel very well.
>>730510897This.Spyro was a not some AAA game, it was made on the cheap with a small team and it wasn't given that much funding because it was a game for younger kids who were easy to please with less effort.
>>730510235that's a lot of effort for what amounts to a bait op, you're not actually retarded, right anon?
>>730510897How many indie games are made by more than 3 people? Most are just one or two. Actually nevermind, it doesn't matter. I don't know why I'm replying to you, your line of argument is completely fucking irrelevant.>>730510235If you have black environments, it makes perfect fucking sense to make the player character white. Art designers with the same experience as Spyro's will come to that conclusion, it's not rocket science. Yes, inexperienced indie devs can copy that style without much thought, because it's time-tested reliable and relatively easy to do. That doesn't make it incorrect. You're only whining about it because it's common, and because you're a braindead retard.
>>730516804Now try to figure out why so many indie devs go for black environments
>>730510553Found the zoomer.
>>730510235Remember to always pirate indie games.And make sure you email them that you pirated there shitty game just for fun.
>>730517081>so manyNot that many. The games in this retarded strawman image (>>730510967) you keep posting are YEARS apart, and only around three of them actually go for solid pitch black (or otherwise single-color) backgrounds. Baba is You goes for solid-color backgrounds with single-color sprites because it's a grid-based puzzle game where the ability to clearly see what's going on at a glance is incredibly important. Minit and Downwell both go for the "1bit" style of extremely limited color palettes using only black and white (plus Red, in Downwell's case), which would make detailed backgrounds functionally impossible since you'd lose track of the character almost immediately. The only game there that doesn't have any real mechanical justification for a white blob guy character is Fez, and that's because the whole joke with Fez is that the main character belongs to a race of pixelated generic retro game NPCs that aren't supposed to resemble much of anything.Of course, not that I should have even bothered typing all this out— you're a retarded schizoid faggot who's made similar threads to this fucking MULTIPLE TIMES DAILY for years and you'll probably just make another as soon as this one peters out because everyone's realized how dumb you are.
>>730517081To make your autistic ass upset clearly
>>730510235That's why I only support AAA games and not the indie shit hack developers
>>730514991The same reason the name pyro got rejected and they used Spyro instead.Red too aggressive, this has to appeal to under 7s
>>730510434smaller team, less artists and designers, means less insights from different people, less time to adjust things
>>730518635With Baba any pastel color would have worked they didn't HAVE to chose white and it still would have kept clarity.The thing is they wanted it to look like some blobby pet animal and you can get white cats, dogs, hamsters, whatever but not light blue/green ones.Ori could have been a different color, but the game has some fairly bright areas, it's difficult to see the fucker even with it being neon white.Rain world and Hollow Knight didn't have to have monochoromatic main characters either; however hollow knight has every boss and enemy bright white too so it's just to keep it themetic. Rain world isn't as bad as Ori but it is just for clarity.so while they didn't need to be white, in most cases it's just the best option considering the asthetics.At that point people aren't criticising characters but the games overall asthetics; and i'd rather all those games to the shitty low-effort pixel "haha it looks like (cheap budget cash grab games) from the 80s!" other indieslop does
OP btfo
>>730520580>didn't HAVE to chose white and it still would have kept clarity.Baba is clearly meant to be some some sort of sheep by the name, or at least vaguely evocative of the idea of a sheep. Baba also isn't a "character" in any sense of the word— it's a game piece, and more often than not puzzle solutions can involve replacing Baba with something else or otherwise moving the "Is You" modifier to apply to something other than Baba. I broadly agree with the rest of your post, though.
>>730510235terrible strawman argumentgetting angry at nothing, this is very foolish
>>730520580You know the only real reasonOri among all other indie shit in that image was made like that is simply because of a stylistic and lore choice because the protagonist of the game is supposed to be a little ghost/spirit creature inspired by the little spirits in princess mononoke. It has actually nothing to do with background or technical limitations like in all the other cases in the indie white blobs image but it's simply a questionable stylistic choice.
>>730521349Le Redditchan is le interwebs haet machine, le you don't le belong le here if le you aren't le angry le all of le time.
>>730521349>>730510967
>>730511770>>730511862>>730511904>projectingconfession denied, both of you.
>>730510498This is the faggiest complaint imaginable. Like, yes, video games use fog to convey more distance than is actually present, what of it?
>>730518635you're arguing with a retard who has a pavlovian reaction to seeing white characterseverything you've said is 100% correct but this is a shitty bait thread so who cares
/v/ hates indie games /v/ also loves gacha gameschuds, the anti-establishment kek.
>>730510235one of the early spyro games also lets you change his colors
>>730510967>posts a picture with legendary characters everyone recognizes>meanwhile no one remembers fucking spyro
>>730523075The example in your pic actually shows how fog was used to cover up the limitations of old hardware that didn't allow to see far distances.
>>730520580It's the lowest effort option for clarity possibleNote how the characters are completely featureless and textureless even putting color aside, it's laziness and lack of passion pure and simpleNo one ever actually dreamed about making a game where you play a white blob as a kid and if you did you're a fucking faggot, real men dreamed of playing games where you're a badass robot dinosaur
>>730515941That’s a lot of projection there.
>>730523075you would only notice how heavy the fog in SA is from high up. modern games exaggerate it way too fucking much to the point where the colors for anything farther than 100m are constantly desaturated making everything look washed out
>>730523428No, it actually shows that video game worlds are illusions and not built to scale, and building them to scale would suck ass because no one wants to drive for 30 minutes to reach their destination.
>>730523432i will play the game composed of minimalistic shapes and lines if the gameplay is goodcaring about visuals (that's what the character designs are) is the faggiest thing everimagine not playing poker because you don't like the art on the cards LMAO
>>730510967What kind of colors do you think suits each of them?
I think the creature on the right is cute and I will now draw porn of it with fat fucking honkers.
>>730515019And what's the tone, derivative indie garbage
>>730523319Oh yeah i will surely remember about Ori from the white blob Tumblr memes
>>730523630I have the perfect game for you, it's so fun and engaging it checks off all your metrics, look at all these people they're practically hooked
>>730523432Is this post satire?
>>730523798>completely misses the point of the analogyembarrassing lmao, i allow you to return to fantasizing about sucking virtual character dicks now because MUH GRAPHIXXX MATTER!!!!
>>730513302Isnt stardew valley a farm sim?
>>730523618The world shown in the bottom picture extends literally 100 times more than the top one. You literally don't get your own memes
>>730523901Blown the fuck out, enjoy your fun gamey games anon they have all the metrics
>>730523938And it looks way smaller...
>>730518635>the whole joke with Fez is that the main character belongs to a race of pixelated generic retro game NPCs that aren't supposed to resemble much of anythingwell it's also implied that the race that gomez belongs too are a bunch of dumb retards who forgot about the third dimension when you meet the zu people later in the game, who have tall heads instead of flat ones and do know about itand some shit about worshipping owls and time travel and the universe being a simulation i think, it was in that leaked fez design document
I love the slug cats they are very cute and well designed.
>>73051120120,000
/v/ has some difficulty understanding that the average indie dev also puts profit first. They don't love you, they love your wallet and they know that all they have to do is games-on-demand without being too creative about it.
>>730524085It's called perspective you dumb faggot. The map for that game was still impressive large for the time and to these days the series kept making GTA maps even larger for a reason.
>>730523075>what of it?Looks like dogshit.>BUT DEY CONVEYING MORE DAN DEY GOTI can stick some rolled up socks down my pants to pretend I've got a big dick, but it looks stupid.
>>730520262thats green and blue retard. way to proof him right.
>>730510235Daily reminder that indie devs are worst that slopAAA devs in the following:- taking negative criticism triggers emotional responses first (usually quirky or plebbit tier sarcasm). by negative criticism ofc I exclude fag replies, kys replies, actual retarded "hate" and useless shit like "combat feels off"- they do not understand the importance of dedicated QA/QC and shits on them. when the issues are pointed out by the players, see the above paragraph. so full of themselves thinking they can both dev and QA- the in-fight in AAA is because of money, the in-fight in the indie scene is because of ego- AAA studios are out of the loop with what the player wants because if ignorance, lack of experience and the focus on money. indie devs know what the player wants, goes against actively and mocks the player in the open and directly- the indie scene is more affected by DEI and woke slop than the AAA scene. A AAA company of 1k has 100 wokies, a Indie company of 10 has 9 wokies.- the vast majority are in it for the money and the chance to jump into the AAA scene - nothing wrong with it. However, it becomes a problem when until you "make it" you virtue signal against it before going "ooops xD"- more scams happen in the indie industry (see kickstarter) and since as mentioned above, the ego takes the crown, no one calls it out as a singular voice. AAA studios at least pretend to rally for a common cause- they hate AI and use it anyway undercover. more virtue signaling
>>730525819how many indie devs have you actually spoken to?not discord or twitter, like actually asked them about what they're doing, their motives, etc?
>>730523681That's only three games and all of them are good
>>730510235there's like 5 games i can think of that even do the white blob meme and two of them have minimalist-y artstyles anyways (baba is you and minit) and of the remaining 3 i don't think one of them is even an indie game (ori)
>>730525989He gets all his information from twitter probably. Like any other conformist.
>>730510967Baba is You is a good game though.And you aren't playing as baba in half the levels anyway.
>>730525989Not him, but that's irrelevant to literally every point he's made.
>>730510235four years later the same developers would make the original ratchet and clank, a game entirely constructed of cut corners and shortcuts that was only successful because of the character designs and only remembered fondly because it had sequels which were actually good.
>>730527728you cannot speak of an audience without ever interacting with it, anon
>>730514991Because it would look like arse when viewed through common CRT via compsite/RF, blowing out the reds and ruining the details.
>>730510897Most indie devs to the programming and art themselves, you can't even comprehend how much information is in both fields, but instead of complaining what skills do you have? I bet it's none.
>>730528316It's not an excuse to make your main character either as white as a sheet of paper or a chromatic mess. Color theory is elementary knowledge (unless you're an unimaginative hack).
>>730528502listen tard, if you don't like it don't buy it, can't you cucks do anything but complain?it's so tiresome
>>730510575>white people are slopYou're brown.
Modern Indie devs really are fucking lazy. There's no hiding it.
>>730510498the worst part about the anti-soul gas is that it's evenly applied, so all parts of the background appear to be at the same distance
>>730528662imagine how many high-effort games with elaborate character designs you could've made in all that time you've spent shitposting on /v/?
>>730528662>modern>has complaints for games over 10 years old
>>730510967To the people who haven't tried it yet, Wuppo is pretty good
>>730528617>listen tardYou're the one spending your money on eye-vomit trash, and you know what Ben Franklin said about fools and their money. Now, unlike you, I do not entertain such nonsense in my video games and I do not reward people for not advancing the medium just because influencer #2,345,221 tells me I should (he's on the grifter's payroll) and I will make sure to tell everyone willing to listen to reason to save their money for better games (like The Frydarian Tale).
>>730528617anyone review your game yet?
>>730529256Of course not. He's too exhausted from listening to valid complaints on the internet to even attempt to make a game.
>>730529185you got 2 things wrong faggot1. I'm not american so I don't give a fuck about what some fatass said2. I pirate
Damn, I love when retards who don't play videogames attempt to have "discussions" about them.If Glover came out today and was a indie game you'd bitch about it too.
>>730529421*who don't play INDIE gamesFuck
>>730527830>and only remembered fondly because it had sequels which were actually good.Also because people and also kids back then had infinitely more standards than the one little faggots are used today
>>730529395>I'm not americanOh, I see what game you're playing…
>>730510235>why isn't 1 person just doing the same work an entire studio full of people did, instead of simplifying?
fagoon threadIgnore all posts
>>730530008>why isn't 1 person just doing the same work an entire studio full of people didStudios back then were like 10-20 dudes in a small office
>>730530008Because they have no talent. We've been over this already.
>>730530106>It's poopdickschizo!!! Run for your lives!!!
>>730510967It looks fine. Who cares?
>>730523920It's about vibes, color schemes, general tone, etc. I would suppose being very grounded and bright makes Stardew Valley fall into the "Earthbound" category.
>>730530572but can i play you game?
>>730530830You can, but he'll first link you to his gay site that has an IP logger, and the game itself is stuck in pre-pre-alpha v0.05 since 2023 with no development because he spends all his time shitting up /v/ instead.
>>730510967
>>730510967why did the person who created this image sort them in order of how fuckable they are?
>>730530967but if he wants others to play your game, why not put it on itch?
>>730530967Shoo shoo, my lapdog. Stop barking at the nice people inquiring about my game.
>>730531293
>>730531267It is on itch.io, but only because I do not have the infrastructure required to set up my own shop. Besides, can itch.io offer you dope wallpapers, music, AND a fanart gallery for free?Anyway, link to my game below:https://fygoon.com/game.html
>>730531382Hey Jollibees boy. Got triggered at me snuffing out your Filipino brown-ness?Go back to jerking off to your anime little girls and let the men talk.
>>730530967>but he'll first link you to his gay site that has an IP logger>>730531442>https://fygoon.com/game.htmlDamn
>>730525819>- the indie scene is more affected by antiwhite slop than the AAA scene. A AAA company of 1k has 100 antiwhites, a Indie company of 10 has 9 antiwhites.fix'd that.Wonder when you cucks are ever going to stop being their self made bitch and find your spine
>>730528502kill yourself faggotgoon.Your game looks like aids and plays like shitplus you are just dragging every other /v/dev down to your miserable self loathing state.Kill yourself cuck.
>>730531442i am not going to be downloading your game from your site
>>730531669>his entire argument centers on a lie that can easily be sussed out
>>730523075it sucks and is overdone for the most part in literally any game ever>it's needed for depth!no it isn't, that's an artstyle/rendering issue>it's needed to hide pop in!!pop in has been the worse it's ever been with LOD models being the lowest quality things ever
>>730531526it takes a brown to recognize another fellow brownspoilered for public decency
>>730531865I just give friendly reminders to creeps that they are not welcome. Not my fault you align with them.Other than them I like the developers here.
>>730510967Sex with indieslop scrimblos
>>730531961>He has no argument to combat the truth>He resorts to ad hominem attacksLeave it to Pedro the Filipino to resort to such underhanded tactics. Tell me, how jealous are you of me because I live in a first world nation while you have to live in fear of errant monitor lizards?
>>730530106i wish the guy would get a trip so i could filter him but i'm pretty sure he's doing it entirely as a falseflag troll and he doesn't actually care about his game
>>730532141baba is YOU and not SHE
>>730532259WrongYOU is BabaNow bend over
>>730532230Ok AliceFag.
>Make unique and original indie game>Get good feedback the entire development process>No one buys it >Make Vampire Survivor's clone>People tell me its slop that won't sell>Instant 10,000 salesIts YOUR fault indie games are derivative. Yes, gamers, it is YOUR fault. You whine about trend chasing slop but you don't buy original games.
>>730530271With budgets in the hundreds of thousands to millions.
>>730510587Trained doesn't mean talented just like educated doesn't equal intelligent
>>730532602And the vast majority of it was spent on renting or buying equipment or software that took 12 hours to do something that you can do in 12 minutes on a toaster today
>>730532523Or even better when you faggots go>Why does no one make original games?and someone says "Here's my original game"Then you say>Buy an ad!
>>730532141Give it eyelashes or bedroom eyes
>>730533678Better?
>>730533764Oh yeah now we're talking
>>730532523does your game have cute women?
>>730532523You do realize Vampire Survivor was actually a "unique an original indie game" first and foremost for people to actually end up copying it and making clones of it, right?
>>730536121Look up Magic Survival lol
>>730536363i've actually played the original mobile game, and dare i say it, it's more interesting and pure than vs because there's a lot more focus on synergy building and specific builds over than just grabbing everythingit still wasn't amazing, but i got a lot out of it during a 3 day long train trip without consistent coverage
>>730512276she's a faun, you dork
>>730510967you forgot one
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/g1fO_Rjl-hnZO4O9B1vbzg/
>>730510498My favorite
>>730512048I don't have my glasses on and read the names as John Fartito and Craig Slit at first. made me chuckleI have nothing else to add to the conversation
>>730531091The green one is literally asking for it, that little hussy
>>730510967btfo
>>730537697newfag
>what if a dragon was... purple??crazy concept OP. didnt read your image btw
>>730510967>ori>indie
>>730510235NIGGER I'M TRYING
>>730510498It´s fucking shit how Maraton (2026) and Metal Gear 3 Delta has the draw distance of Superman 64
>>730529369>he says trying to shill is vaporware trash
>>730510967I would fuck all of these characters btw
>>730510498I hate anti-soul gas like you wouldn't believe
>>730510235Thanks doc
>>730547423Consider, if you will, the area being filled with noxious fumes billowing out from large smokestacks.
>>730510967whoa a bunch of cool guys from good games
>>730531091>>730531127>Finding simple-faced colorful symbol drawings attractiveYou must be 18 or over to use this website.
>>730510235Would have been nice to have the green Spyro as an alternative color you could unlock though. I love Spyro. And it was very smart to make him a purple dragon with orange wings.
>>730510235need more small colorful dragons in video games...........in everything really................
>>730523319>>posts a picture with legendary characters everyone recognizes
>>730523938>>730523428Autism-chama... The human experience is speaking, shut up an listen.
>>730530271And their tools were much less developed, meaning making things was harder.
>>730523538bottom screenshot still has fog
>>730510235why is spyro still the only game where you can play as a dragon?
>>730510235are these threads made by a bot? i've seen the same incoherent Indie Bad shit with the same handful of images for some time now
>>730510553Red, black, and green are the three classic dragon colors.In color theory, green, especially that shade of grass-green, is generally thought of as a friendly color compared to red and black, which are more associated with violence and evil. While not fitting in with classical depictions of dragons, it makes sense why they wanted Spyro to be green when he's the protagonist.
>>730551413>>730552805Well do I have the game for you.
>>730552903i knew some low iq retard was going to reply with a biped that's really only dragon in name
>>730552975If you want a non-sapient, quadrupedal dragon, then I have that too.
>>730553056what the hell are those wings, that's a gay butterfly not a dragon
>>730553056okay, you have my attention now
>>730552821>why are people pointing out the consistent failings of indie games consistently??
>>730553498>consistent failingshaving a white cartoonish protagonist is not a failing no matter how angry it makes you
>>730553395Indeed, it is the ultimate weapon of the Fygoon Clan. After Basileus Lucas Fygoon, Joseph Fygoon (the player character)'s great-great-great-grandfather, killed the Elvarian Ten Magicians and King Stephen Luftmann, the Doom Dragon was unleashed to absolutely annihilate the Elvarian homeland of DarkWater Island, turning what was once a Temperate Broadleaf island into a hellish wasteland, allowing the Dragons' Alliance (composed of Dragons, Bulldog Canids, Felids, Golems, Rodents, and defecting Trollglodyte and Gremling Simians) to enslave the Elvarians and render their slave races, the Griffins and Goat-Men, extinct. Since the Dragon-Elvarian War was the last major conflict Frydar Island was involved in, the Doom Dragon now lives peacefully in an underground terrarium in Fortress Fygoon's basement.If you couldn't tell, the Doom Dragon is basically the Frydarian equivalent of the Fat Man, but while the Americans took pity on Japan and rebuilt it to combat communism, communism is an alien concept to the Frydarians (only being introduced by an alien Dinosaur in a weird flying machine) so they enslaved the losers instead, taking them to their island only to mock their existence.I would refer you to the website to read more about the Dragon-Elvarian War, as it is a very important event in Frydarian history, but I still need to write up the timeline of events preceding that war, including the Naming Race and the beginnings of political alliances with neighboring Goloomaia and Dosornar Islands.
>>730510967reddit character design
>>730518635you're a furfag that likes atlyss nigger stfu
>>730510235You can already tell by the replies why the indie scene is so shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQHQ88d0m7E?t= 28m10s
If you actually want to get good at something, do it every day. You don't even need to do a lot of it. 10 minutes a day will suffice. The important thing is building the habit. Are you building your skillset, Anon?
>>730510335They never had automation, ai and asset stores to help you build the game. One modern dev can do job of 20 devs.
>>730510235There was a Spyro rom hack that made him green and I instantly thought it was just a shitty recolor because thats what most rom hackers usually do. He also looks like shit green.
>>730551413>Trias enjoyerHell yeah
>>730558061n-no
>>730510235No. No indie game will be entirely bereft of techniques you could call a "shortcut" and therefore all indies will be lazy and zero effort for all time by your definition.>but Spyro took all this work and came out great, indies should do that too!Professional skills, a specific deadline, and a paycheck will do that for a game. Most indie development happens among groups of like 3-5 people who are amateurs in every field they contribute to the game. The tools being easier can only contribute so much.>but what if indies just tried to resolve this specific complaint?They already have because this shortcut is only used by a limited segment of indies, not literally all of them.
>>730510235i think Spyro is great but Hollow Knight mogs it in both art direction and gameplay
>>730510498Xbox...is just too powerful...
>>730512926Refer to OP. What do you think the opposite of white it? Red?
>>730564934>XBox>PowerfulA Japanese budget game caused it to chug while desperately attempting to render all the random bullshit going onscreen.
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>>730565314Wrong bro. Different box entirely. Good try, good try kiddo, nice try. But no. Wrong box.
>>730510335Which just means more obstacles when making changes. Indieslop has no excuse.Try to add a guy eating potato chips in a AAA game nowadays and you'll be told to fucj off for wasting 36 people's time.
>>730552692Fog isn't the problem. The problem is too much fog like the top.
>>730510498>oh shit we have to render a far distance>well just use LoDs retard>yeah but they look like shit especially now when everyone has a 4K and we don't have time or budget to make decent looking ones or implement tricks to make em look good and make the game run well>alright fine take just put thick fog over it only some faggots on a inuit throat singing forum will give a fuck anyways
>>730565913>having less money to work with makes game dev easier, actually!
