It doesn't seem to have captured gamer's hearts like the first one. They are turning to old systems like 3DS. What game do you think would win people back?
>>730511578Seeing Nintendo fail like this really makes me wish people were nicer to gamers.
>>730511578Didn't this thing outsell literally every other video game system ever made?
>>730511578People forget that the original switch had a star-studded launch.A new mainline Mario *and* a new mainline Zelda combined with a bunch of reasonably priced experimental games that pushed the hardware while capitalizing on the failed WiiU concept is why people bought the switch 1.The switch 2 has the same form factor but less games.
>>730511716for like 2 weeks yeah the fanboys all got theirs already
the console is a half step above a gpu upgradeall of it's incentives to buy it right now straight from Nintendo themselves are making your switch 1 games look and run betterfuck, the nintendo app they hotdropped last year has distinct themes akin to the 3DS era but not their new console
>>730511716Yes but it sold less than the Switch 1 on its first Christmas or something (it's still ahead).
>>730511872Well that and bonanza and mkw are two of the best games ever
>>730511940bananza is very good but it's not gonna really get people to dive in like BOTW and Odyssey did in the pastbar Pokemon, what even is the timeline for Nintendo's next console-sellers? it a glance it seems like mario, zelda, animal crossing and such are still years away
>>7305117562026 will be stronger in games for them than 2018 was. Cope dude.
>>730511578They went woke
Nothing. Nintendo is obligated to publish their games on Playstation and Steam. They can't lower the price. The best Nintendo can do is abandon hardware entirely.
>>730512107Why do I need to cope? Lol, I hope you're right I bought one of these when Bananza came out.
>>730511716Switch 1 did. 2 is outpacing it within its first year and snoys are panic spamming a retard who guessed on all his figures for one weekend at the end of November
>>730512321They needed Mario and Zelda year 1 for the Switch to get the sour taste that was the Wii U out of everyone's mouth.
>>730512050Nintendo will still sell software for Switch 1. You can still buy a Switch 1. They have two systems with their own as well as crossover libraries to double dip in Walmart's physical game section. Do you think Switch 1 physical game sales or digital sales just stopped overnight?
>>730511756No, the switch 2 has a much larger screen and higher dpi
>>730512050Yes it will
>another seethe thread
>>730511578The Switch was such a runaway success that much like Wii Nintendo is kind of scared to move away from it. This resulted in a clumsy half step forward with the Wii U and the Switch 2 is kind of the same.But where the Wii U at least tried to move forward hardware wise the Switch 2 just wants to keep the Switch train moving and give a performance boost to the software, everyone wanted that so theoretically there shouldn't be a problem.But when your next gen system is largely viewed as nothing but an upgrade you have to really make it feel like it's worth it, there's very little hype and mysticism behind getting the thing you already have but better, especially when you're making everything expensive. For nerds who talk about input lag and framerate the system is an easy sell, but for most people the Switch 2 IS kind of like the Wii U, a weird successor that doesn't seem too necessary when they already have the previous console.The Switch 2's ticket out would really need to be in leaning on cooler games, but so far Nintendo has been giving us a lot of the same shit, the average person won't know the difference between 8 Deluxe and World, or Mario Tennis Fever vs Aces. when you can look at so many Switch 2 games and easily draw a line to a corresponding Switch 1 game, there's a problem.
>>730511578>returning to gameboy like handhelds instead of embracing smartphone/gamegear like knock offs WHO KNEW?The only thing I like about the original switch was the chance at couch coop, but even that is severely limited like one player being dragged around like a dog on a leash by an absent minded jogger.
>>730511578they should switch 2 having games. it's a fucking no gaems port machine. oh boy, there's an animal crossing port this month for $5 extra.
They need a 3d Mario. Nintendo should fucking know by now after the N64 and the Switch that they need a 3d Mario.
>>730512923>But when your next gen system is largely viewed as nothing but an upgrade you have to really make it feel like it's worth it, there's very little hype and mysticism behind getting the thing you already have but better, especially when you're making everything expensive.Funny how that wasn’t a problem for any iteration of the Xbox or PlayStation but it’s bad when Nintendo does it
>>730512595Sorry, you're right.I guess what I mean by "same form factor" is in a somewhat general sense. It has very little new features that like, even a dumbass would be able to notice at first glance. For a lot of grandparents buying gifts for their kids, they might not even understand what makes the Switch 2 immediately better compared to the Switch 1.We also have that NEX Playground thing kind of eating into console market shares but I think that can kind of be ignored.
>>730511578My hype died when i learned that the shit emulates Switch 1 games and some run like shit because of it.
>>730512989Probably going to release a new one around the time of the Galaxy movie. Also probably a new Zelda around the movie. They made buku bucks from the movies so they're unconcerned and likely have it planned out for maximum profit.
>>730513048Yeah they just expect you to pay more for less. Their ''competition'' all have some form of backwards compatibility. This retarded emulation and key card shit is what's going to kill it unless they take a better approach.
>>730512923>the difference My friend walked into my house during Thanksgiving and looked at my Switch hooked up to the TV and asked if it was a Switch 2. I said no, I got it 8 years ago. Its a Switch 1.
>>730511578Fuck off Eric
>>730513164You can put switch 1 carts in the 2 and play them, retard
>>730511578Smash Bros 6 will be their holiday mover in conjunction with Pokemon
>>730513292It's likely going to be Smash Ultimate 2 edition upgrade
>>730513163Nintendo survived the Wiiu because they could lean more on their handhelds. They don't have that luxury anymore. But as you said they do have a ton of money saved up. I just think it's pretty retarded that they once again released a system without any games people actually want.
>>730513008PlayStation has the benefit of being THE game box, any asshole who just likes "videogames" will buy it.
>>730513379>source: my ass
>>730513021the Switch's playerbase is far healthier, the Wii's audience was full of retirement homes and moms, who were never going to stick around.You'll obviously have far more retention with an audience of actual gamers, I'm not saying it'll sell like the Wii U, it will just obviously have a harder time selling to more casual players who bought the Switch 1 because of it's novelty.
>>730513445I don’t see how that changes what I said
>>730513419The Switch and Switch 2 combines their previous two products, the home consoles and the portable. Really it has to succeed. It may not be on the level of the Switch 1, but it will be respectable by the time they release a new Zelda and Mario around the movies
>>730513574>it will have more time matching the best selling console of all timeWow what a tragedy. It’s over for Nintendo
>>730513379That would be bad.
>>730513008NTA but every new PlayStation and Xbox console has had a new design, UI refresh and new features (even if rarely used) to set them apart from the previous gen. The Switch 2 just kinda looks like a Switch XL that maybe sometimes runs games better. I think their GameChat feature was supposed to be the big thing differentiating it but every console has party chat already and most zoomers just use discord anyway.Also, the Switch 1 really should not have done as well as it did. I'm not saying that in a "it's shit and deserved to flop!!!" cope kind of way, I mean that the stars aligned for the system to sell insane numbers. Nintendo internally turning focus away from Wii U in 2015 giving the Switch a good first year of games that were initially meant for that system, including the most anticipated game in their history and Animal Crossing releasing right in time for covid lockdowns right when Switch sales would have likely started to stagnate otherwise. Switch 2 doesn't and won't have either of those luxuries.
>>730513445isn't that currently Nintendo's thing? Being "videogames" to most people? Playstation is taking the mantle of mature games for mature gamers but its sales show that crowd doesn't buy many games these days.
>>730511578Nothing. The Palworld lawsuit and $80 games have confirmed that they have become a spiritually Israeli company and that there is no potential redemption at that point. They will degenerate and become increasingly shitty and keep losing gamers.
>>730513008>>730513110>B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER SYSTEMS????i wouldn't call myself a Nintendo fan if I consider Nintendo to be equal to Hexbox/Playstation.
>>730513702The Playstation also actually gets 3rd party games too
>>730513687>>730513687I think Nintendo is going to be in such a place that it delays PS6 or even requires 3rd parties to optimize their games for the Switch 2. Remember, we have about eight years with Switch 2 before 3, and the rest of the industry is suffering
>>730513702The difference between ps3 and 4 was what exactly? Graphics and…?PS5 and 4 were different because of….graphics and…Hell people couldn’t even find a difference in quality between the 5 and the pro
>>730513748You’re right. Nintendo makes video games while snoy creates industry flops like concord, marathon and fairgames
>>730513794As does switch 2. And famitsu shows us third party multiplats always sell best on switch or 2
>>730512923>The Switch 2's ticket out would really need to be in leaning on cooler gamesSo what I'm hearing is they need to make games like the GameCube era again?
>>730514034God I would kill for a jungle beat sequel
>>730513702Switch was selling boatloads long before Covid hit so I doubt that's the case, and Nintendo has done so much more than Xbox and Playstation to innovate with every new machine that people were begging them to stop and just release some iterative hardware for once. Truth is people love handhelds and the variety of the Switch. Even PCmasterace have bent the knee and admitted that its a perfect form factor, and being able to swap between TV and bed on the fly is great.Do you live alone Anon? Anyone who has a family, or roomates, or lives with other people might have to juggle TV access but the Switch lets you do just that. If you live somewhere that power goes out you can just pick it up and play it for a few hours while other consoles and PC's are just dead. If you want to go lay down and chill somewhere else you can take it with you. All that shit is a MASSIVE convenience that gets overlooked in these discussions, but all that convenience paired with being the best way to play Indie games and all of Nintendo's exclusives meant it was always going to sell well.
>>730513726>sells faster than switch 1Yah, really bleeding out here
>>730511578They just need to stop being such stingy fags with their IPs. Nintendo stayed alive through many crappy systems, because they had a loyal fanbase, but they keep losing them and eventually they'll release a console that bombs so bad they'll be forced to shift to software publishing for Xbox and PlayStation.
>>730513687you're being obtuse, I don't think the Switch 2 will be a tragedy, but at it's current trajectory it won't be the lightning in a bottle the Switch was either.More than likely it'll be a 3DS scenario, where it sells well but bottoms out eventually
>>730513657I hope for their sake they will release something in April. If they take too long people might wait for the next console port. And who knows when people will figure out Switch 2 emulation.
>>730514169>but they keep losing themIs that why the switch sold more consoles than any other platform in history and the 2 is selling even better?
>>730513870Yet people see Nintendo and Sony as equals.
>>730513110why am I supposed to be happy that the Switch 2 is nothing but a power bump without anything else interesting? Why should I be grateful for that?
>>730514346So we’ve gone from “Nintendo can’t compete” to “p-people put them on the same level” now?
>>730514346despite sony 's constant attempts to avoid competing with nintendo directly because they keep losing
>>730511578>What game do you think would win people back?a new Mario and a price drop
>>730514394why am I supposed to be happy that the PS2 is nothing but a power bump without anything else interesting? Why should I be grateful for that?why am I supposed to be happy that the PS3 is nothing but a power bump without anything else interesting? Why should I be grateful for that?why am I supposed to be happy that the PS4 is nothing but a power bump without anything else interesting? Why should I be grateful for that?why am I supposed to be happy that the PS5 is nothing but a power bump without anything else interesting? Why should I be grateful for that?
>>730514398I wasn't the one putting them on the same level. The only people that seem to do are Nintendo fans trying to deflect whenever Nintendo does something shitty. I just find it funny how at the end of tthe day Nintendo fags do consider Sony to be their equals.
>>730514394>everyone wants the switch 2 to be the switch but stronger instead of being something dumb like the wii u >nintendo does this>snoys seethe
>>730514592So you got BTFO and are shitting your diaper because you lost the argumentGot it
>>730511578free online play virtual consolemainline Pokemon game with a complete pokedex$150 price dropgames capped at $60Welcome Tour being free
>>730514508Ps2 had games
>>730514508dunno, im not a sony fan, but I imagine having a box that is guaranteed to be playing the next 7-10 years of videogames is a pretty good draw.
>sony cultist starts dumping his favorite folder when he starts losing its a shame trump didn't bomb his favela
>>730514743As does switch 2. why am I supposed to be happy that the PS2 is nothing but a power bump without anything else interesting? Why should I be grateful for that?
>>730514710>I won because I said solmao
>>730514760And the switch 2 is getting games for the foreseeable future, so I don’t see why you’re being such a pissy man child about it getting a power boost
>>730514792>As does switch 2.I don't think you should start comparing the library of the Switch 2 and the PlayStation 2 kek
>>730514849I won because you don’t have any argument other than “I like sony more than nintendo”
>>730514849how many years have snoys been going "LAALALALALA I CNAT HEAR YOU SONY WON" again? 8, 9?
>>730514919Weird how it started to happen when Nintendo isn't being as succesful as with the Switch 1.
>>730514926Good thing I wasn’t retard kun>yah but PS2 had games!>so does switch 2>ok but I like PS2 more!!!
>>730515014>ban evading to play innocent
>>730515014You mean more successful?
>>730515014Switch 2 is already selling more then the first one did by the end of its first year
>>730514954Point to the post claiming I like Sony more than Nintendo. Literally all I did was calling Nintendo fans retards because they admitted Nintendo is just as bad as Sony.If you don't show me my post where I claimed Sony is better than Nintendo I will see it as a concession btw.
>>730511578Better handhelds exist and nintendo games are the same lame dogshit now copying bland ubislop for 70-80 dollars lol. You have to be a consoomer to buy this garbage.
>janny deletes my post for noticing
>>730515149>the same bland dogshit snoys love to prove they don't play games
>>730514879the thread is about the lukewarm response to the Switch 2, and discussing why it's gotten that, I'm saying it's because a pure power boost is not that exciting and different and varied experience is what they need. The only one being a pissy man child is you.
>>730515149See>>730515065
>>730515029Yeah I liked having actual games during the first year of release a lot more. You got me there.
>>730515148How is nintendo as bad as sony?
>>730515239>lukewarm response>is actually the fastest selling console in historyYou faggots truly live in you own little world, don't you?
>>730511578No fucking games
>>730515239>lukewarm response if the switch 2's success the past 6 months is 'lukewarm' then every playstation was a completely stone cold flatline
>>730515237Learn to read faggot>>730515259>thinks everyone is her bogeymantake your meds, retard.
>>730513110Playstation also makes new IPs every gen.
Is it worth getting a Switch 2 for Donkey Kong Bananza and Hyrule Warriors Age of Imprisonment? Does it provide noticeable performance improvements to Switch 1 games? Is it likely to go UP in price in the next few years?
>>730515239You say it got a lukewarm response despite selling faster than any other console in history. I don’t care if you own one or not, you’re just denying reality
The Switch 2 is already a success, people are just comparing it to the top selling console of all time and drawing conclusions. That's like saying every PlayStation after 2 is a failure.
>>730515149Switch 2 has already outsold steam deck lol
>>730515319>He couldn't show the post because it didn't happenFucking kek.
>>730515424>every PlayStation after 2 is a failure.They definitely are.
>>730515303Keep moving those goalposts >a power upgrade is bad because the PS2 had games!>so did switch 2>yah but I liked PS2’s launch lineup more!
>>730515390>a toddler tier scrimblo and musou shovelwareno
>>730515424I mean.... look at the quality of the game libraries between the PS2 and every playstation after it
>>730515239God these posts with pictures of consoles are always so pathetic, nobody even questioned that you have it, did you actually buy it just to shitpost on /v/?You know you can still be wrong right?>lukewarm response to the Switch 2The fastest selling console of all time? Damn you must think all PlayStations are huge failures then.
>>730515383What new IP has sony made for PS5? Concord?
>>730515373good thing we aren't discussing playstation then, and the Wii U sold well at launch too only to trip and fall later on.
>>730515527>>730515460I agree actually they fucking suck just not sales wise so you're not proving anything.
>>730515390The baseline framerate stability boosts in all switch 1 games is really nicebananza and AoI are both great
>>730515454>he didn’t answer the question Fucking kek.
>>730515553>source is chris dring who admitted to pulling it out of his assNot helping your case bwo
>>730515553>no december sales data released you should stop jerking off known grifters like dring if you want people to believe you
>>730511756Odyssey wasn't released at launch, retard-kun
>>730515607>just not sales wise >no playstation has even come close to passing the PS2
Nintendo is a guarantee of good games like every single console they have ever made while Sony only has Concord.I would get the fucking Switch 2 before it increases its price because of scarcity of components.
PS5 had Ratchet and Clank, Returnal and the Demon's Souls remake in its launch year. So it's already better than Switch 2. Grown men playing Bananza is weird. It's why you're still virgins.
>>730515543And it became the biggest media failure in all human history.
>>730515471>he just repeats himself because he has no answer. I wouldn't be surprised if the ps2 had 10 times the amount of new games during launch compared to the Switch 2. Didnt the Switch 2 only have Mario kart and Donkey Kong?
>>730515797>rehash, shovelware, and a demake of the PS3 game
>>730515819Repeating what? What are you even arguing here? >>730514508
>>730515797>Shitty remake that ruined the original>Also on PC>See the first point
Why is it impossible to criticize Nintendo without people bringing up how Sony is totally worse?
>>730515615>bananza and AoI are both greatYeah, if you’re a retard.
>>730515553>pulling dring's fake report again after getting raped yesterdayNDS fags never learn
>>730513164Xbox's backwards compatibility is basically key cards.
>>730515858that's basically the shitch 2's library, yeah
>>730515543Returnal
>>730512050>what even is the timeline for Nintendo's next console-sellersThis is the retarded mindset that has begun the decline of both Xbox and Gaystation.There's no such thing as console sellers, what matters is that you have many good games, that appeal to as many niches as possible. The value comes from the sum of the parts, not from a single game.Nintendo understands this, and that's why they are successful.This is also why everyone will be surprised to find out GTA 6 won't be as successful as they hoped it to be.
>>730515890Because the criticism is usually felt out lying or finger pointing at nintendo for something every other company has been doing for years
>>730515890>Why do my seethe threads always fail?Cry about it lmao
>>730515720Whoops, I'll take my lashings for that one.It was on the horizon though, and that's what matters.At this point in time, their biggest selling points are ports and Mario Kart. They just need to make some announcements and expound on some of the ones they've already made to drum up some excitement.
>>730515819you do know the PS2 only had only kessen,ridge racer, and eternal ring at launch, right? then it was 2 months later for evergrace, then basically nothing until august/october
>>730515934You mean the Finnish made IP that’s also on PC?
>>730515616Still waiting on my post where I claimed Sony was superior. You said that was my only argument here >>730514954
>>730515884Rift Apart was the PS5 game, tendie, not the remake. >>730515858Returnal > Nintendo's entire catalogue. Saros is looking good too.
>>730515965So it's not okay to say the Switch 2 has been a rehash of the Switch 1 without many unique experiences because the PS5 is equally shit?
>>730516035Still waiting for you to explain how Nintendo is as bad as sony
>>730515383>Playstation also makes the same games again with a new lick of paint
>>730515890why is it that snoys have a meltdown if you directly compare the two primary consoles on the market
>>730516102It’s not a rehash, it’s a console iteration. You’re getting mad at something Xbox and sony have been doing for decades
>>730511872i really think a UI overhaul would make the console feel way newer and more distinct
>wii (cool, innovative, exciting)>wiiu (unoriginal, boring)>ds (cool, innovative, exciting)>3ds (unoriginal, boring)>switch (cool, innovative, exciting)>switch2 (unoriginal, boring)You're gonna have to wait until the next console to see Nintendo make cool stuff again.
>>730515890Why do niggers think making shit up is criticism?
>>730516159>I give an iota of a crap what game icon or splash screens look like I think you’re a flaming faggot who basedfaces at jingling keys
>>730516086dry those tears snoy
>>730516013>It was on the horizon though, and that's what matters.new 3D Mario is also on the horizon for Switch 2, don't worry.Switch 2 line-up for the first, what, 7 months? Is already much better than Switch 1. But don't let that reality get in the way of your biased delusion.
>>730516028Yeah, funded by Sony. An IP that would not exist without them. >Also on PCMost games are on PS5 and PC. That's why they're good platforms. Nothing is on Switch, which is why you guys act like weird screeching cultists when people make fun of the mediocre software played by KHV men in their 30s.
>>730516017the ps2 released in October. You are likely using Japan like the little goalpost mover you are. But even then there are more games than during the Switch 2 launch. Even with severe goalpost moving the ps2 comes up ahead.
>>730516269I'm sure, but we need to see it, is what I'm saying.
>>730516314So not made by sony, got it>immediately starts shitting his diaper about people playing nintendo Lol
>>730516104If you admit you were wrong/lying.
>>730516324>snoy seethes when you look at basic facts like when the fucking console released sorry the PS2 LAUNCH was in march 2000
Switch 1 had the first mover advantage, now we have the Steam Deck and a bunch of copycats and SBCs have exploded in popularity.
>>730516157call it whatever you want, and I'm not mad that it's the same system again but better, everyone wanted that.The issue is that it just isn't very exciting beyond just being "the switch but more powerful." For some people that's good enough but it's not for me.When so much of it just feels like the same thing we've been doing for the last 8 years it's a little deflating, you're not winning me over with BoTW at 60 fps or Mariokart but you can play as the Bee and drive between the tracks. I'm not calling it a failure, I'm not even saying it's a bad console, just not that exciting, and if everyone else just wants to dig their heels in and tell me it's totally just as exciting as the Switch 1 because people are buying it, then I guess there's no discussion to be had.
>>730516131>Playstation makes Nintendo games?
>ACPedo is losing yet again>His usual method of shutting discussion down failed immediately
>>730516451How am I lying if I literally linked the post I was replying to?>uh I jumped in and started fellating the PS2s library but you’re wrong
>>730516459Are we speaking English or Japanese right now? To us the ps2 released in October/November. You're just mad I called you out on moving the goalpost.
>>730516524ahh yes the $1000 ROG ally will beat nintendo! w-w-ww-w-wait what do you mean people buy nintendo to play nintendo games t-t-t-this can't be happening!
I wonder what the cope will be after the actual christmas sales numbers are out.
>>730516545Because people have been bitching and whining about nintendo innovations since the Wii so they said “fuck you” and boosted its power instead
>nintendo adult is losing yet again>xhe starts talking about her imaginary boyfriend againlol
>>730516564I forget, was it Nintendo or Playstation that had an article written about how all their new games all play the same and have the same story?
>>730516404>Not made by SonyBeing pedantic. By that same token Sony didn't make Last of Us. Anything under the Playstation Studio banner is one of their own, like Returnal. >Shitting his diaperFunny coming from a 30 year old man going to bat for Nintendo. Shameful life.
>>730516610>moving goalposts >the factual date the console launched and this the date game releases were targeting
>>730516694yea, that's great, if they came out with some home console with smellovision or some shit that lets you smell the Hyrule Bass that Link cooks that'd be fucking retarded, we are not discussing that the power upgrade was a good move.
>>730515890Because enjoyment/happiness is relative to your circumstances. If all the other competitors are making worse games, then Nintendo must be great.It's a fallacy though because you shouldn't be comparing Nintendo vs (other company). You should be comparing (current game industry) vs (past game industry). It's such a narrow minded view to excuse Nintendo's bullshit simply because everything is now much worse. That's how standards keep dropping.
>>730516675probably the usual "w-w-w-w-w-well of course tendies bought switch 2 for their kids...."
>>730515239Part of the reason I even went with Nintendo over PlayStation and Xbox was because they were the ones doing something different with their devices. So, for me, just the Switch again but stronger isn't appealing just like how it isn't appealing when PlayStation and Xbox do it.>>730514508I don't know about the PS4 and PS5, but the PS2 was a mainstream phenomenon because it paired a huge, generational leap in graphical fidelity with being able to play not only music CDs from the tray, but also DVDs which were a brand new media format at the time. Basically, PS2 wasn't even just a gaming machine, it was a fully on home entertainment system for $299.99 making it the best valued product in electronics at the time. Similar with the PS3 feature wise which also brought with it 1080p resolution (which is STILL good enough for a lot of people to this day) and the now standard Blu-ray media format. PS4 and PS5 didn't seem that interesting to me honestly and still don't, but for the PS2 and PS3, you cannot make the comparison that they are similar to what Nintendo is doing. Even with the PS4 and PS5 at least they are different from a design standpoint, the massive improvement from HDD to solid state, and DualSense being an upgrade to Dualshock in just about everyway including visual design. Switch 2 is about as close as you can get to a "Switch Pro" without calling it a Switch Pro when compared to the Switch 1. Almost everything about it is the same or only very slightly tweaked from the first Switch save for the throwaway "mouse controls". Please don't be disingenuous. It's OK to like the Switch 2, but you don't need to do that.
>>730516698what a weird, nonsensical post
>>730511578Nintendo needs to stop acting so fucking jewish and stop charging $70-$80 for games that are clearly made with a much lower budget than other games sold for the same price. Charging $70 for a game like Mario Tennis Fever is insane.
>>730516574what a weird, nonsensical post
So this is the power of Playstation's exclusives...
>>730516596This is getting pretty sad, Anon. We both know you were lying. I never claimed once Sony is better than Nintendo if I did you should show me that post.. At this point I feel you are just going to continue going ''nu uh'' until I get bored and leave so you can get the last word.
>>730516945>shit on PC players out of greed>run to sony>karma destroys them a just end for a snoy dev
>>730516853>the Switch again but stronger isn't appealing just like how it isn't appealing when PlayStation and Xbox do it.Agreed, but I would agree with the tendies in this thread that it was the right move. Pivoting away from the hybrid model or doing it with some expensive gimmick would've been worse. But if you aren't going to give me exciting hardware then you need to do well with exciting software, and they just aren't doing as well as I'd like on that front.
>>730516764The factual date the console launched was October/November for the people in this thread. So you were moving the goalpost.
>>730516524Those are all Switch copycats, including the Steam Deck.>b-but handheld PC's existed before this!Then why didn't Valve get off their asses and make the Steamdeck until Nintendo proved how viable it was? They're all copycats.Nintendo Innovates, everyone else Imitates. Tale as old as time.
>>730511578They just need one or two more slam dunk exclusives and better cross platform support. That's all there is to it. Prime 4 being shitty deflated things a little but I don't think it had much sway either way. Once the next Zelda or Mario is announced (or heaven forbid a new IP) things will perk back up. More information on that shitty multiplayer Fromsoft game might even make a mark, since Nightreign has been a hit.
>>730516853The switch2 isn't just stronger, the switch 1 is miserably underpowered the 2 is a real noticeable jump in power. It's like going from the N64 to the Gamecube.
>>730516727>sony makes new ips every gen>returnal literally wasn’t made by sonyThere’s nothing pedantic about it
>>730517159cope snoy the console released in march, that is when the game devs were aiming releases
>>730516831if anything nintendo fans should be comparing it to their past consoles more than the competition.Imagine if a new Star Wars came out and someone said "that one sucked compared the originals" and the retort is "Well, it's still better than that new Jurassic Park!!"
>>730511716yeah and then it was immediately out sold by the 6 year old PS5 during some little holiday called "christmas">>730516269>S2 lineup is better than S1let me know which game normies equate to the level of BotW that came out for switch 2? cause it sure isnt Mario Kart.
>>730517197Especially Sony. All they do is copy and steal.
>>730516704>Tendies retreat to IGN when convenientHeh. Anyways, I agree, the newer games are still in the shadow of TLOU and need to escape. Just as Nintendo is cuttently trapped in BoTW's shadow, which itself is just a worse Ubisoft game.
>>730517270>cause it sure isnt Mario Kart.sales would disagree.
>>730516945>Sony has been losing money lately>zero awards>their newest exclusive got a very low scoreI'm noticing
>>730517270>lying againthere is no december data, snoythe "outselling" was just black friday week the first 3 weeks of november had the switch in #1 and the NEX in #2 with PS5 a distant 3rd
>>730517231>I am actually le JapaneseVery retro. Even with your shitty goalpost moving argument the ps2 still had more games though.
>>730517270Didn't Sony slash their prices by like 50% and desperately try to market it, just to still be outsold by the Switch 2 in the year end totals? That sounds more like desperation than anything serious.
>>730517045>>730513748
>>730517228>Made by a studio owned by Sony>Doesn't countGot it. And Horizon is made by some Germans, not Sony either.
>>730517224>the 2 is a real noticeable jump in power. It's like going from the N64 to the Gamecube.Awesome, can you show me these awesome noticeably more powerful games? Something like this?
>>730516853>Similar with the PS3 feature wise which also brought with it 1080p resolution (which is STILL good enough for a lot of people to this day)A lot of PS3 games aren't actually 1080p, but sure.
>>730517417its not a goalpost move to to state the factual release date of the console I know the truth destroys your entire cope argument but thats how it is
>>730517487>made by a studio that isn’t sonyThanks, that’s what I was waiting for you to say
>>730517449>i wouldn't call myself a Nintendo fan if I consider Nintendo to be equal to Hexbox/Playstation.This is me claiming Sony is better than Nintendo?
>>730517407b-but Pis5 won that one week out of the 6 months!!
>>730517270>let me know which game normies equatewhy do you care about what normies think? Do you need their approval to take a shit in the morning?
>>730517531PS3 was also a massive pile of dogshit thanks to sony's retarded cell idea
>>730517585Yes. Is English not your first language?
>>730517351mario kart 8 outsold world.>>730517407"nintendo lost black friday! who cares! its not that big of a deal!" lmfao>>730517446"its not fair that they lowered their prices"holy cope.Switch 2 is a shit you fucking losers.
Why are Nintendo fanboys incapable of defending Nintendo without immediately resorting to whatabouting snoy. You're basically admitting that the current state of Nintendo is indefensible so you have to divert attention to something else.
>>730517689>sony loses for 6 months in a row >wins for 3 days >"SEE NINTENDO IS DEAD ITS OVER SONY WON STOP COUNTING SALES NOW"
>>730517689>game that’s been out since the wiiU outsold a game that’s only been out since June 2025Wow! I can’t believe it!
>>730517224>Switch 1 to Switch 2 is like going from N64 to GamecubeThis bait isn't very good at all.
>>730511578switch games are too fucking expensive who buys games for 70 bucks
>>730517540My argument still stands because even with your irrelevant dogeater country release date ps2 STILL had more games. Even though the actual official release was in October no matter how hard you try to move that goalpost.
>>730517690This entire thread is people talking about what Nintendo does right. Are you missing all those posts? Why do you only see what you want to see?
>>730517579>I concedeAnd I accept.
>>730517690Indefensible how?
>>730517685Learn to read, ESL. I'm NTA but that fag is clearly one of the more respectable tendies in this shit thread. You fags need all the decent ones you can get.
>>730517690>crying because people are comparing the two biggest consoles of the time to each other because sony is losing yet snoys endlessly compare the N64 to the PS1, the gamecube to the PS2, and the PS4 to the wii u
>>730517787Don’t look up the cost of new Xbox, pc, or PlayStation games
>>730517764I haven't said "Sony" or "Playstation" one single time.>>730517769Yeah, a-then 6 year old re-release outsold a new game. Wild. And here's you pretending there's nothing wrong with that, despite there being "allegedly" more consoles now than there were then.you nintendofags are the biggest retards alive.
>>730517817What posts are those?
>>730517935>link me the post>I’m not that post, that doesn’t countHmmm interesting
>>730517787The players of any modern console.Plenty of Sony games are 70-80 too.Hell, they have even been doing gamekeydiscs before gamekeycards were even a thing.You lost either way.
>>730517814>south american snoy starts projecting google "PS2 release date" MARCH 2000 is the date that comes up
>>730517972A game that’s been out for 12 years will definitely have more sales then one out for less than one. Especially since the switch 2, the only way to even play world, hasn’t sold 60m units. How exactly do you think it would outsell 8?
>>730511578you're brown coded if you don't own a switch2
>>730517690Has anyone said snoy other than you lot?
>>730511578>What game do you think would win people back?Smash duh
>>730517972>hes trying the "i'm not a snoy!" cope again
>>730517685I said Nintendo fans shouldn't really consider themselves Nintendo fans if they consider Nintendo to be equal to Sony and Microsoft. If anything you could misinterpret that as me claiming Nintendo is better than Sony. so basically I never said Sony was better and you were just a retard/lying.
>>730518014>That doesn't countI said learn to read, you pathetic faggot. "I wouldn't call myself a tendie if" is the preliminary statement that negates the second. ESL fucking retard.
>>730518032snoys say nintendo is greedy because one game is $80 while everything else ranges between $50-$70 meanwhile they defend the 6th rerelease of TLOU costing $120 and having nothing but a gay letter from cuckmann
>>730516675They're going to continue reposting the same dring article. You think NDS fags are going to stop posting their debunked cope? they still believe the switch 2 doesn't come with a dock
>>730518175Why shouldn’t nintendo consider themselves competitors to other console manufacturers?
>>730517689>mario kart 8 outsold world.anon you know MK8 only sold like 1.2 million in its first year right? MK World has sold 10+ million in less than 6 months.
>>730518331To be fair it's not like Sony and MS are competing. They dropped out at the end of gen 6 when they pivoted to alternate gaming.
>>730518331its not fair to compare sony to nintendo sony is just a poor tiny megaconglomerate how could they ever hope to match a toy company
>>730518340woops read wrong, it sold 8.4 million life time, the 1.2 million was its first week. So yeah World has already outsold vanilla 8 in less than 6 months, lmao.
>>730516853>Even with the PS4 and PS5 at least they are different from a design standpoint, the massive improvement from HDD to solid state, and DualSense being an upgrade to Dualshock in just about everyway including visual designIt's mostly the same in every way that matters. I agree they were too conservative with the Joycons on Switch 2, but they needed to preserve backwards compatibility as well as the symmetrical design for multiplayer (I still wish the left Joycon had a D-pad, though).I have a lot of gripes with how Nintendo has operated over the last 15 years but the Switch 2's iterative design honestly isn't among them.
>>730518307this they'll just claim circana is lying and the source dring made up and will not name is the only true source of game sales data
>>730518340>BundlesDoesn't count. Nobody bought World.
>>730518610LolLmao even
>>730511578They need a killer app like a new Zelda breath of the wild 2
>>7305186108 was also sold in bundles.Pretty sure they had multiple including one with Splatoon as well.
>>730518610I did. I just prefer physical.Managed to get my switch 2 slightly cheaper due to pricematch abuse against some cheaper french stores.Total price was the same.
>>730511578It has no games with mass appeal. The new MK wasn’t a hit, DK was a bomb, Kirby Riders was a bomb, and nothing serious is on the radar. If they announced a new Mario 3D or Zelda, it’d start selling.
I thought I had some issues with the Switch 2 but then someone reminded the PlayStation 5 is worse, so I don't have any issues with it anymore
>>730518331Notice how he stopped responding
>>730518775>pricematch abuse against some cheaper french stores.based
>>730518810>it has no games>proceeds to list its gamesLmao
>>730518810So you not only want it to continue selling gangbusters but you want to explode beyond that?
>>730511578I guess you snoys stopped using the Dring article for doomposting because everyone realized he was full of shit.
>>730518634>>730518738>>730518775Fair point. Horizon has sold over 40 million copies. Gamers love it and it is very successful. >Tendie self-detonation sequence initiated
>>730511716>>730511789Niggy, you tried that in June and lost.It’s been consistently the fastest selling console of all time for 7 months straight (the data we have so far) and counting
>>730518810and then you woke up and all those games were big hits
>>730518903The difference being that people still play Mario kart while the latest horizon game(on switch btw) bombed
>macaco thread-74924 karma to ziony
>>730518886Sorry, for you retarded people: it has no _good_ games for people that are not less than 10 years old. >>730518892It was a Christmas flop. Facts.
>>730518903>snoy has to count an entire franchise to beat one 6 month old switch 2 game
>>730518818Because the argument was over. Unless you want to provide this mythical post where I claimed Sony was superior.
>>730519017>>730519048>Tendie meltdown successfully launchedBundles don't count. MK World is astroturfed.
>>730519046>those don’t count!>its a fact that dring lied about his sales dataKekaroo
>>730518903so mario kart has sold over 200 million then?the entire Horizon series total is 40 million, with the HZD's latest total being 24-25 million
>>730519046>It was a Christmas flopsource? Also before you bring up Dring, here he is getting his ass caved in for making up december numbers out of thin air.
>>730519103Oh, did you forget the one I linked to? >>730513748Feel free to answer the question this time
>>730518610World sold 1.5 million copies outside of bundles, so it beat 8 Deluxe and Crossworlds
>>730519146>snoy is in full on meltdown because world is winning
>>730518810>"Nintendo keeps making the same games!!!">shits on nintendo for trying something new instead of making the usualWhich one is it?
>>730519154>>730519234I’ll bring the receipts https://www.ign.com/articles/video-game-physical-software-and-hardware-sales-just-had-the-worst-november-in-the-us-since-1995
>>730517114I think for Nintendo, they didn't have to necessarily pivot away from this. Best case scenario for me would have been that Switch 2 would be correctly named "Switch Pro" and Nintendo would also work on something else like VR/AR/XR for their actual next step. The technology is very cool and it's there, but it's just missing that breakout software for mass adoption. Metaquest 3 for example is damn cool technology and VR would be groundbreaking for immersive, interactive entertainment. There ARE games for it, but we need games that are going to really do something interesting, cool and flat out fun with the VR tech. Also we need to fix the other issues with VR regarding weight, health and safety, ease of use and setup (and desire to even utilize it), making it feel "fun" rather than sterile and lifeless and other things. Nintendo is pretty much the only ones that could do this since they'd just strip the VR stuff of basically anything that isn't about video games, so there's no need to worry about trying to treat it like a PC instead of a fun "toy" for lack of better phrasing (or at least they were in the Yamamoto and definitely Iwata era). It'd didn't HAVE to be VR stuff, but this is the kind of what I was hoping for from the next Nintendo. Of course it didn't make business sense for them to not try to strike the Switch rock twice to see what happened. Also Nintendo actually listened to the core gamers for once and didn't do "gimmicks" which doing anything other than what they did with Switch 2 would have been viewed as, so there's that as well.
>>730517949Sony first party games go on sale, have permanent price drops, and are added to PS+. MK World will be $70 forever.
>>730519391Since when is december and november the same month?
>>730519234>chadcatella bending cross-eyed dring over you love to see it
>>730519185>BundledBecause gamers love Horizon. 40 million and counting. >BundledDoesn't count. Nobody likes MK World, and Nintendo left them no choice but to buy it or get swindled. Typical devious Nintendo. Astroturfed game. That's why the online is dead.
>>730519330Why are you quoting me when I never said that? I only buy Nintendo for the same franchise and same games.
>>730519243see>>730518175Learn to follow the thread. I am still waiting on an apology btw. I clearly never said Sony was superior.
>>730519391>Indicates that some or all digital sales are not included in Circana's data. Some publishers, including Nintendo, do not share certain digital data for this report.
>>730518903>Horizon has sold over 40 million copies.Horizon was literally given away for free
>>730519459Do you think people buy Christmas units on Christmas Day anon??? Are you fucking retarded seriously
>>730511578See you in February, faggot.
>>730519507Why shouldn’t nintendo compare themselves to other console manufacturers You never answered the question, and in fact still haven’t
>>730519316>World sells 1.5 million copies outside of bundles its first month>Horizon sold 3 million outside of bundles its first month I rest my case. Horizon is for the gamers. World is for the shills.
>>730518903>bundled for free>even Phil Spencer called this out
I think the snoy has broken down.Whoever built him used shitty materials. Then again it follows the same method Sony does when releasing "games".
>>730519509We’re talking about consoles you absolute idiot. And even if, you can’t gift digital
>>730511578>captured gamer'sNintendo cultists aren't gamers, but insufferable social media retards who play games for social validation
>>730519330They don't see beyond the IP so say Wonder, Kart, tennis and so on is viewed as the same game to them.
>>730519398Cope
>>730519516the snoy is trying to cope by comparing mario kart world to 7 games combined
>>730519603Not only that, but those games are not touched or played in any way whatsoever. They don't even have any resale value.
>>730519516Not only it was given away for free there were 3 other games included for free and 12 months of PS+
It really needs an a Japanese action mmo for me to take an interest.Basically pso2 before it went to shit.
>>730519652So why are they the one's playing games?
>>730519603>Game was so successful they gave it away for free after making multiple hundreds of millionsBased. For the gamers. Tendies only know what it's like to pay subscriptions for voice chat and 10 dollars for a game manual so this eludes them.
>>730519591I want an apology from you first. I very clearly never once claimed Sony is better.
>>730519568but people were arguing about DECEMBER numbers specifically, those numbers arent fucking out yet which is why Dring is getting raped >>730519234
>>730519652meanwhile sony cultists are crying and braking down in public buying PS5s
>>730519735I was talking about it being in Sony's free covid games thing. That's how I got it, and Ratchet and Clank, and regret playing it
>>730519697>Tendie can't readTypical. It's just a matter of fact that bundles don't count. Unless it's for Horizon, then it does.
>>730511578Steam friendslop games are killing Nintendo. Lethal Company, Repo, Peak, Jackbox. In the 00s and 10s youd play mario party, mario kart and smash. Now everyone is playing these games. So now the only appeal is if you like the Nintendo IPs. If youre already a nintendo fan youre buying the system to play the games you grew up with. The system sold like hotcakes because die hard fans all bought theirs. Now its suffering and will continue to suffer because theres really little interest in owning one if youre a normie. Too many good games are on PC and PS5 has, finally, a really large library of games to pull from.
>>730519778Funny how easily Snoys just lie about data they don’t have.
>>730519774>ACpedo starts crying for apologies
>>730519867>Me when I lie
>>730519748How much is PS Plus again?
>>730519947It makes sense after his shitty photoshop skills make a solid case of why people use AI instead.
>>730520030160 dollars per year to play PS1 games.
>>730519947>got cornered and now has to mention the tendie cinematic universe
>>730519893when they lie about data that exists then people can correct them and that usually triggers the snoys so much they start spamming from their favorite folder
>>730520030$160 yearly with less content now that they purged PS4 games from its lineup.
>Tendies realize World is a shilled bundle game with dead online because nobody likes it>Seethe at a game so successful that Sony started giving it away for free after already making millionsBased. Maybe you can go play more little baby games like Bananza and uuuuhhhh
>>730520085>WAAAAHHH APOLOGIZE FOR POINTING OUT WHAT I SAID EARLIER
>>730520085>He gets immediately butthurtAw, you're really mad.
>>730520172>>Seethe at a game so successful that Sony started giving it away for free after already making millionsIt only "made millions" when they started giving it away.Sony considers free units a full sale
>>730520030>It's free>Wait no you have to pay for itBASED! Tendie immolating his own argument while ALSO championing the better deals that Sony offers its gamers. Good job, tendie, that was a two for one.
>He's in his Pretend you won phaseSonyfags really are delusional.
>>730520030$160 plus you get to have your credit card stolen because the sony server's password is 0123456789
>>730512114>doesn't show the pantiesok, they deserve to fail mr doomposter
>>730520230>Sony lies to investors about imaginary money made, this is completely legal and they would never be taken to task for itBAAAAASSSEEEED. Tendies are very intelligent, I bet besides being 30 year old virgins you're also very successful finance lawyers. I kneel.
>>730520198And what did I say earlier? That post wasn't me saying Sony is better. I am still waiting on that alleged post. But so far all I got was deflection. So either post proof or apologize.
>>730520432sealion
>>730519959Thats not really a reply with any substance to it. I sold about a fourth of my stock in Nintendo. I think the theme park with Universal and the movies will do good. But kids play Fortnite. They know Pikachu and Mario but other franchises like Zelda dont matter to zoomers because these would be console gamers are now playing Fortnite and Marvel Rivals for free on their phones. They're going to grow up fondly remembering the battle bus and concerts instead of exploring paintings and solving dungeons.
>>730520404Who said they lied?
>>730520383You don't even need that. All they have to do is have your email and call customer service. They get to steal both your PSN account and your credit card.
>>730520284>pretend to win.png
>>730520404sony counts the PS portal and PSVR as full price PS5 console sales, despite both being accessories for the PS5
>>730520284>Every tendie tripping over themselves to say it's free>Before admitting it isn'tIt's too easy dunking on tendies. It's like a leisurely past time.
>>730520487>Me when I keep lying
>>730520383>>730520507>Not using PayPal like an adultIs this why you're still virgins in your 30s.
>>730520536Even your insults are ports. I'd ask for you to come up with anything original but that's beyond you.
>>730520652>defending sony being lazy and greedy its weird how steam, xbox, and switch don't have security breaches every week
>>730520653>Even your insults are portsLike Switch 2's entire line up eh. As a customer I'd find that... insulting.
>>730520653I meant that in just and in support. I can't find the image.
>>730520574So what's your answer to this
>>730520729>DefendingNo. Just asking why you don't buy things online like an adult, you loser.
>>730519652>Muh cultistmeanwhile you are there daily, in every thread, repearing your holy prayers and sendin death threats to the non believers
>This is the best ACpedo can come up with after he got banned for using his favorite folder Funny how he went into overdrive the instant Sony's AI programs came up once more.
>>730520848>snoy is bending over into a pretzel trying to make excuses for PSN and sony being dogshit compared to every other platform
>>730520812>Covid happened>Here are some free games to pass the timeBASED. For the gamers. Tendies are mad at this.
>>730520913>KHV balding loser carefully inputs his CC info into online stores instead of just using PayPal like a normal person with a jobPathetic.
>>730521084That's one weird way to describe yourself in one word.
>>730521084Imagine using PayPal in this day and age.
Reminder that Concord, one of, if not, the biggest bombs in all of entertainment is a Sony "exclusive".
>>730520861its funny snoys call other people cultists but then they do shit like the chase stuff>some guy tells a youtubepedo to stop shilling his channel on /v/ >snoys have a mental breakdown >they dig into a random account on youtube that made a similar comment >find a shitpost image as the pfp >the snoys start screaming to doxx the person in the image >then screaming to murder him, send fake pedo reports to his family and the police in his area >all because someone told a youtuber to stop spamming his shitty video's here
>>730521084>snoy projects again
>>730521158>Weakest retorts always come from tendiesThe mind and its ability to come up with ripostes is atrophied by prolonged and repeated engagement with mediocre Nintendo products. True Story.
>>730521235>>730521368>Tendies rally together in a group screechCalm down little virgins, I only have so much ass-kicking to go around. Let's move on to a different subject...>Mwtroird Prime 4PFFFFFF AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA
>>730520460>ran out of arguments clearly lost>His mind drifts off to a happier place when he and his short bus class went to Sea WorldThose sea lions (it's not one word but that's ok we are all learning) sure were cool right buddy?
>>730511578A good Zelda is always my main motivator for continuing to buy Nintendo, and I heavily dislike what it's become. I just don't trust them anymore.
>>730521493>it took the snoy this long and "u-u-ur dumb" is all he can't muster I guess this is what happens when the snoy cannot look in the mirror to find insults, or has no images made by PC/nintendo fans to lazily edit
>>730511716nope we still don't have any official non-jewish number source.
>>730521640>snoy is seething and screaming because he lost >>730521658thats nice sealionfag
My wife wants to fuck and then go to Whole Foods. I'll be back in three hours. If the thread is alive I'll slap the shit out of you tendies later. Provide me some Metroid cope in the meantime >Men in their 30s>Playing BananzaPPPPFFFF AHAHAHAHAAAA
>>730520550>sony counts the PS portal and PSVR as full price PS5 console salesThey don't. You read some misleading headline and didn't bother reading the article which states that a third party market research company Circana was tracking the PS Portal as its own hardware instead of as an accessory for the PS5.
>>730511716Total? nospeed? switch 2 has broken every sales record by such wide margins its insane 3.5 million SOLD in 4 days compare that to the fastest selling playstation ever, only doing 3.4 million SHIPPED in 4 weeks
>acts like he's leaving>isn't leavingbut I'm sure the wife needs help getting food
>>730521256Imagine wanting to kill a dude for being "mean" to your favorite youtuber, the youtuber who neglects his family
>>730522043hes a snoy, his wife has lots of other men to help her
>>730521810https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_lionit's literally 2 words though, buddy. You really seem to struggle with english since you also thought I put Sony above Nintendo which i factually never once did. Maybe you should tell your handler you need more help.
>>730522085its worse than just neglecting, its active abuse >son gifts him a switch so they can play together >he pawns it off to buy some tablet so he can emulate games alone
>>730522158>The sealioner feigns ignorance and politeness while making relentless demands for answers and evidence (while often ignoring or sidestepping any evidence the target has already presented), under the guise of "just trying to have a debate"
>>730521980>sold
>>730522225It was his brother that bought him a Switch OLED but he's still a piece of shit for selling the gift so he can buy another overpriced emulation platform that he doesn't need
>>730522409yes snoy, nintendo tracks units sold sony tracks units shipped how many times have you needed this explained to you?
>>730522295I only asked for evidence because there was a claim I said Sony was better than Nintendo. Which I never did. When someone showed one of my posts as ''proof'' it was actually a post of me calling Nintendo fans retarded. That post could even be seen as me defending Nintendo and putting it above Sony if anything. Meanwhile I am still sitting here waiting on an apology because I got accused of something I never did. Not sure what a sea lion has to do with that though.
>>730522498>snoy
>six months in and the Switch 2 still has no games aside from Donkey Kong, Kirby racing and Mario Kart, the rest are just switch 1 game portsEmbarassing
>>730511940You are actually retarded if you think mash y to awesome sim & Mario kart of the wild is the best anything
>>730522714Thats you
>>730522746>5 years in and PS5 only has astroflop GRIM
>>730522689okay sealionfag
I think the disconnect between it's high sales and negative reception online is because it's only being sold in western countries and japan. Thirdies make up most of the internet now and there's a lot of sour grapes because Nintendo has effectively shut them out
>wants to create an echo chamber for themselves in a public place>someone (the sea lion) naturally overhears this and wants to understand why>instead of actually debating the subject that they said out loud, they ignore the sea lion and make them out to be the villain>while the sea lion persists, the complainer doesn't just accept that differences can exist and patiently wishes for peace, instead they immediately become hostile and unmoved in their openly-stated opinionThis isn't even a console war argument. Sea lioning as a concept is deeply flawed.
>Clair Obscur: 50 dollars>Arc Raiders: 40 dollars>Hollow Knight Silksong: 20 dollars>Indefinite Steam friendslop like Peak and REPO: 10 dollars>Mario Tennis Fever: 70 dollarsThe game's changed.
>>730523006>back to his Sea World happy placeOk buddy I guess ill never get the apology I rightly deserve. I still very clearly won the argument though so I guess that's something.
>>730523257And the only gold game there is also on switch
>>730523257This is the biggest reason I'm not into Nintendo anymore. There is no reason for their games to be that outrageously expensive other than they simply want them to cost that much.
>>730522746>"the Switch 2 still has no games">proceeds to list S2 gameslol
>>730523189ACtard, everybody knows its you
>>730523406Odd how Nintendo is the only one you're not buying from.
>>730523406It’s the same price as other big publishers have adopted 5 years ago
>>730523257>SAAR NINTENDO IS TOO EXPENSIVE SAAR TWO WEEKS SALARY FOR GAME IS TOO MUCH SAARPeople are willing to pay a premium to not mix with people like you. Mario Tennis might be more expensive but no one is going to try nonce you or radicalize you while playing it unlike something like arc raiders
>>730523483His "wife" found one of her several bulls. It was quite quick.
>>730523257What's stopping Nintendo from making a budget game other than NDSfags crowing about how LOL THEY'RE CHARGING LESS THAN $70 FOR THIS GAME ITS DEAD?
>>730523285you dont deserve anything since you keep defending snoys posting the most evil shit on earth
>>730523189>claim theres an echochamber >a dozen anti-nintendo threads all spamming the same cope and lies day in day out >every site has multiple sony echochambers
>>730512970You can always spot a faggot who owns every console and just looks at first-party games for a sense of worth.Sony has released fuck all this generation. https://www.pushsquare.com/guides/all-ps5-first-party-exclusivesThe PS5 has been kept afloat by being the de facto machine for third-party games.
>>730511578I think the issue is that Nintendo failed with devkit deliveries, which stifled third party developers. Right now on e-shop, you can find about 70 games/upgrades for SW2 (of which two thirds are dogshit shovelware and WWE DLC), the rest can be played on SW1. What's worse, CP2077 and Outlaws proved that it can handle even the most demanding AAAslop. Nintendo started to ship devkits recently so we should see more games in 3-6 months, but the launch was dogshit.
>>730523257>snoys want GTA6 to be over $100 >this is fine>nintnedo charges $10 more for a some games >HOW DARE THEY DO THIS NINTENDO IS THE MOST GREEDY COMPANY EVER!!!
>>730524319>failedconsidering how unreliable westerners have been in the past for nintendo, the withholding of devkits was likely intentional
>>730524295>whataboutismactual faggot alert. the ps5 having no gaems doesn't mean the switch 2 also doesn't have no gaems.
>>730524667supergiant and team cherry were some of the fewwhich is pretty neat
>>730523257I can't bring myself to spend $70 for a game like Air Riders that's basically online only to me. If it were $50, I'd immediately jump on it, I'm not sure why $20 makes a difference to me but it does, $70 feels like I'm getting ripped off if it's not some bigger game.
>>730524319>Nintendo started to ship devkits recentlyWhat do you mean 'recently'? all of the big companies already got a S2 devkit
>>73052472024 > 16
>>730524974Let's hope for a sale soon. Air Riders is awesome.
>>730525242Recently as in couple of months ago when they should've shipped them at least a year before launch, if not more.
>>7305119402 gold coins have been deposited into your Nintendo account.
>>730525631If only... rip...
>>730511872>all of it's incentives to buy it right now straight from Nintendo themselves are making your switch 1 games look and run betterthe problem is that any game without a switch 2 version looks lacking in handheld mode, especially if it's upscaling from sub 720p which is a lot of games. xenoblade in handheld mode on switch 2 is ass because of this. it's sub 480p at times upscaling to 720p on a 1080p screen.
>>730512114This is so validating <3
>>730524720PC basement-dweller spotted.
>>730511756>Less gamesYou people are retarded>Mario Kart >Donkey Kong>Forgotten Land DLC>Kirby Air Riders>Hyrule Warriors>Pokeslop>Metroid Prime 4 What you morons should really be saying is they have games, but for some reason they decided what would be a year 4 or 5 low hype of games for the switch 1 would be the perfect launch line up for a new console. A new Mario or Zelda should be there by default, so this is why nobody gives a fuck yet. Does not help they have the gay switch 2 editions that take up a whole month of content.
>>730526293t-t-those games don't count.... ebola village counts though so sony w-won....
>>730515239>Switch2Snoy
really bad timing for the caco to be throwing his tantrums now when the goycube's price turned out to be worse than anyone expected
>>730526293It's really just a system for raceists right now. MKW, Air Riders, and Fast Fusion are 3 of the better exclusives. They wasted a month with Drag x Drive too which was hot garbage, it's a game that you'd see from Digipen back in the old days. Other than the games for raceists, it's just DKB and Dynasty Warriors with a Zelda skin(again).
>>730516671>what do you mean people buy nintendo to play nintendo gamesYou've cracked the mystery of the lukewarm response, Anon.
>>730526553Caca is a sonyfag anon.
>>730526553The steam machine shilling died a long time ago when people realized it was going to cost more than the PiS5 lol
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>>730526696>>730526889I still see him try damage control on steam threads.Sucks he seemingly wised up to things and stopped bumping the famitsu threads and didn't make a new one right before the goycube's price got leaked.
>>730526293Prime4, MKWorld, and Pokemon were really disappointing though. Not just because "it's not Zelda/Mario!!" Like they were all worse than their previous entries. And don't @ me saying MKWorld is better than 8D. It's not.
Is the Switch 2 the most hated Nintendo system ever made? Everyone seems to be extremely angry all the time, especially on /v/.
>>730515553Dring’s lies aside, it amazes me how much Snoys try to glaze Wii U.>Wii U sold well at launch too only to trip and fall later onWii U sold a fraction of Switch 2’s units at launch and by 2nd (SECOND) month on the market it had negative shipments because retailers were sending unsold stock back to Nintendo.It’s in no way comparable to the fastest selling console of all time for 7 months and counting, you stupid negro
>>730527301It's the most forced hated console that's for sure
>>730527301Snoys are mad because they convinced themselves it’s going to fail and they’re going to “win” and avenge them being raped by Switch 1 for 8 years straight
>>730524102You couldn't find shit to prove your last accusation so you make up a new one? I never defended snoys and you will never find a post of me defending snoys.
>>730527321>Snoys try to glaze Wii U.pack it in lads, console warriors have come full circle
>>730511578No exclusives.Barely any reason to upgrade from a normal switch.PC runs switch games better anyway.
>>730527321>it amazes me how much Snoys try to glaze Wii USony fanboys have used GC/Wii U and said "see! see! Exclusives don't matter so it doesn't matter if Playstation doesn't have games! :D" a lot lately
>>730519046>It was a Christmas flop.even if you assume dring's stats are real, it would mean ns2 sold at least 1mil in december in the USthat's nowhere near a flop
>>730511578Anti-Snoy defense force!!! HIYA!!!!!
>>730517529>>730526960First of all, it’s disingenuous to use the same game for Switch and Switch 2, but use different games for N64 and GC. It’s as if you compared OoT on N64 to OoT port on GC. Anyway, here.
>>730528014NTA but>The harry potter devs put more care into their Switch 2 port than Nintendo does for one of its biggest titles.Switch 2 might not fail but it sure won't be because Nintendo put so much care and effort into it.
A sequel to "Kid Icarus: Uprising" directed by Masahiro Sakurai is now in active development.
>>730511578>What game do you think would win people back?NIGGA IS IT THE PRICES OF EVERYTHING AND THE FACT YOU DON'T OWN THAT SHIT THAT IS THE PROBLEM!the Switch 2 is backward compatibile, so games are NOT the issue with this console
Nintendo didnt build up a big lineup of games to put out during launch year like they did for the Switch 1 so hype fell through the roof.Switch 2 also cant just port over Switch 1 games and pretend theyre new like Switch 1 did with Wii U. All they can do is make those token “Switch 2 upgrade” editions and sell them for more than the games original cost when they released 7+ years ago
>>730528795backwards compatibility didn't save the wii u
>>730515553Wii U’s sales flatlined almost immediately after release. No one was buying that shit after its first two months, yet the Switch 2 is already on its way to selling 2/3rds of the Xbox SeS/X entire lifetime units within just 7 months.
All right tendies I'm back. Let's see what I missed. >Nintendo dick riding>Faggotry >Some retard said Arc Raiders is trying to radicalize you (kek)>Another retard said Mario Tennis is goodTendies are so bereft of decent taste it's astounding. Do you even play other games to recognize how lame Nintendo is in comparison?
>long drought at end of Switch 1's lifecycle>last "big" game was TotK, a real lazy BotW repack>almost 11 years since the last MK and 8 years since Odyssey >don't worry guys, the Switch 2 will save this!>/v/ non-stop spamming fake Nintendo Direct leaks for a year straight>Nintendo finally announces Switch 2>barely looks any different. Not even new UI or backdrops. Biggest thing they spend most of the time shilling is the new pedo cam with 'c'unny button>w-well that's fine! Don't fix what ain't broken right? (cope #1)>we've price hiked everything. Literally everything. Even for a system tour and switch1 enhancements>w-well in this economy that's understandable! (cope #2)>no main mario announced>at least that new mario kart might be coo- nvm it sucked (and that's saying something considering it was the only game for the first 3 months and I see more people talk about Sonic Crossworlds which is also a piece of shit)>dk bananza was okay, nothing special>pokemon flopped (expected of the mainline games but even the spinoff sequel was worse? Come on)>Nintendo's got a big announcement for us guys: The VirtualBoy is back! (why)>prime 4 mega flopped (wow who would have guessed a game from dev hell would suck?)>kirby airriders? Would be okay if it wasn't fucking $70What's there to be excited for? Every action they make at this point is killing my morale.
>>730529554I have played God of War, and I still await the next 3D Mario.
>>730529842>I have played sequel #72, and I still await sequel #98Poor tendies. E33 too scary for ya, eh.
>Pauline schizo shows up when caco starts posting againI'm noticing
>>730525631Bing Bing wahoo! Just like the game!
>>730529554you forgot gossipping about some schizo boogeyman that said they want if gta 6 cost 100 dollars lol
>>730530042>Anon is retardedI noticed long ago.
>>730530042Shut up.You are a liar.I will tell Lisa Elizabeth and her husband about you.
>>730530343>In Japan>Birthright on the decline>Nintendo's market is single men in their 30s who can't get any women>Bananza was explicitly made to help them cope with that fact>Multiple KHV anons call Bananza their gotyLMAO. Tendies love pouring gasoline on themselves.
>>730530973Shut up.
>>730529570>What's there to be excited for?he said not knowing that next month will be the release of the virtual boy ports.
>>730531089Does that work with your AI girlfriend.
>>730531337I do not have one.
>>730512447yes this ^^^
>>730513048its not emulation like on a pc, it does some on the fly binary rewrites and then executes it natively. Most games speed up, especially load times
>>730530973>>730531089Stop samefagging.
>>730513702Switch 2 has mouse controls, online chat, new joycon attach mechanism
>>730532341Stop being the same old fag.
>>730511716No, don't know what you're talking about. No need to provide any counter argument either, I wouldn't believe it.
>>730515346lots of people bought one and are just sitting around twiddling their scrotii awaiting actual games to be released
>>730515720it was trailed shortly after launch and released a few months later ie by now in switch 2 cycle more or less
>>730527375>>730527545What's funnier is everything people are fearmongering nintendo with ended up happening to either sony or valve instead.
>>730512114>>730526228She... She looks like me.. She's built like me... I... thank you #RepresentationMatters #SuperGayrioOdyssey
>>730511578The Wii U being such a flop wound up being a hidden boost for the Switch 1 which had one of the most nuts first year lineups in console history. It also meant that a lot of people were being reintroduced to Nintendo for the first time in like a decade which made it seem like a much fresher experience.For comparison, the Switch 2 has only released one game out of their major cash cow franchises.>Mario Kart (check)>Mario flagship>Zelda flagship>Pokemon flagship>Smash Bros>Animal CrossingSome additional ones you might not realize>2D Super Mario Bros>Nintendo Sports>Mario Partyare actually sort of a big deal with families and consistently move 10+ million units.For the Switch 2 they made the decision to platform some of their less popular franchise like Donkey Kong and Metroid.
>>730529554done running damage control for the gabe goycube being almost as much as a pis5 pro while being as weak as a ps4 with those 8gb of vram?
>>730518504>vanilla 8Using the WiiU version data lmao.
>>730530343i'm actually impressed.the XBS actually had 0.5% market share.
>>730534353What the fuck are you babbling about, retard.
>>730528795>AND THE FACT YOU DON'T OWN THAT SHIT THAT IS THE PROBLEM!Which isn't a problem on switch because it doesn't have online drm.
>>730530304>>730530196Suspicious
>>730534065>which had one of the most nuts first year lineups in console historuaing your own reasoning it only had Mario and Zelda in its first year.
>>730535201>Suspiciously retardedToo obvious to warrant suspicious.
>>730534065Nintendo still has a ton of games coming out in 2026 but it's so bizarre to see people basically dismiss 99% of it and say "I guess there's fire emblem" I swear most don't play vidya whatsoever. See the same attitude from youtubers.
>>730523257>derivative digital-only UE5 asset-flip slop that employs a biomass of temp indians can afford to sell their games a couple tens less, checkmate tendies!
>>730526293those are all good or great games. If they had released a Mario or Zelda mainline game you would be complaining that Mario and Zelda is all they have and that you're tired of it. You're a dishonest retard, period.
>>730535709You have to understand that this specific group are nothing but people with an irrational hatred for Nintendo and hyper casuals so they'll only look at the popular series and nothing else.
>>730527321snoys like to jerk off the wii u because it was the last time sony was winning