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Why am I concerned I don't have enough life to actually play through this series?
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They're pretty short for JRPGs. The longest KH games are like 30 hours.
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>the normal playing order, then III, then the 2.8 collection
what did squenix mean by this pic?
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>>730520672
Each game is only around 20-30 hours. You can play them all in about 2 months.
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Cause you don't and i wish i was joking. Nomura the creator isn't even gonna live to finish this series most likely unless he can end soras story in 4 which is HIGHLY unlikely it will be fuckin 2037 by the time kh5 even comes put at this point and we might not even be lucky to get remakes while we wait. im an OG fan of the series its kino and cringe but still a worthwhile experience. and il have most of the soundtrack playing at my funeral.

As much as i love the series im 100% quitting after 4. and at this point they should just turn it into a high budget anime (i dont even wanna hear kh fags bitch there is literally a manga series that's as old as the fucking game series itself) an anime is the only way you will ever see the end of the whole story at this point and nomura and square all know it in their souls but yeah im out. this lack of info and communication with 4 is a toxic ass relationship and im burnt out. kh2 was as peak as nomura was ever gonna take the series. even with kh3 not being canon and yes there's a fan that proved 3 isnt canon she proves it on her youtube Lore by Spec.
but yeah as a fan for almost 20 years i cant wait to retire and just in time before square sells their soul to the AI slop lords.
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>>730523589
>this lack of info and communication with 4 is a toxic ass relationship and im burnt out.

That's cause unless you were a diehard fan of the series kh3 got lots of heat and i think that tore a huge hole in nomura's soul and he took it fuckin personal. so KH4 HAS to repair lots of the damage 3 did and nomura isn't gonna release it till it is one hundred percent perfect in his autistic eyes. Blame square for announcing shit early as they always do and kh fags need to blame themselves also. the whole franchise needs a reboot cause nomura is setting himself up for another kh3 situation if he isn't careful and yeah i don't even think diehard fans wanna wait another 7 or 8 fucking years for 5. end it or anime it.
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>>730520672
The completion time is only gay if you're intending to go in blind on the hardest difficulty with various challenges set in place.
100% with maybe consulting a guide for something that's hard to figure out on your own on Proud is easy enough to do within a week for each game. RIP KHuX, >mobileslop that closed up shop permanently, took Dark Road with it, and is still relevant to the plot to this day
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>>730520672
a single playthrough of persona 5 takes longer than clearing most of the series combined.
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>>730525734
Dark Road is still playable.
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>>730523589
>even with kh3 not being canon and yes there's a fan that proved 3 isnt canon she proves it on her youtube Lore by Spec.

i just went and watched it. she actually makes good sense and its no wonder why kh3 is such a fever dream of chaos. Kh3 feels like it's written by someone who remembers kingdom hearts. everything there to make the game is present but the logic is nowhere to be seen. was this intentional from nomura? probably he's a madman always has been. the whole game is just a fever dream of fanfic just playing with a chessboard with kid logic. 3 was never in the timeline just a myth
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I wouldn’t wish Kingdom Hearts past 2 on my worst enemy.
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>>730527928
>was this intentional from nomura?

of course it was. so after 4 comes out he can make kh3 rewind 0.3.9 the true story version. we can go backwards and play the TRUE kh3 timeline of what really happened so square's shareholders are pleased and the frankenstein creators thirst of madness will be fulfilled.
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Play 1, then play 2, then move on to a better series.
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>>730528167
i say the same thing about gacha games. becoming a soulless porn addicted gooner and gambling addict.

That is a fate worse then any kh game bar none. hell its the worst fate in gaming overall
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>>730523589
>there's a fan that proved 3 isnt canon she proves it on her youtube Lore by Spec.
Are you terminally braindead?
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>>730522395
this, the series is mostly garbage (expect for one of the greatest games of all time)
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I want meleetards to leave.
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Does Gen Alpha know about and like Kingdom Hearts?
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>>730529143
The whole game is a fever dream of fanfic on a chessboard with dumb kid logic. the funny thing is she proves it with the winnie the pooh world. kh has always played with simulation shit. hell roxas was in a goddamn sim in the beginning of 2. so a theory that kh3 is just made up isn't even crazy but if your a normal fag of the series and don't look at it with enough autistic eye it will fly past you. i fucking HATE that i agree with it trust me
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>>730529673
It's known as a series mostly played by mentally ill women.
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>>730529673
A very specific subset (Disney-obsessed Japanese girls) do. Hence the direction the series took.
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>went from thinking the story is cringe as a teen to genuinely enjoying and understanding it as an adult
>missing link was cancelled and now we'll never get the story of scala ad caelum
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BBS is a genuinely good game, and I’m tired of people dunking on it. It’s not as good as KH1 or 2, but it’s still great in its own right. You’re basically criticising an 8/10 game for not being a 9-10/0 game.
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>>730531502
Post game is awful but i still have fun with the main game
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>>730529702
>the funny thing is she proves it with the winnie the pooh world.
So that's a yes then, you are terminally braindead.
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>>730520672
Does the Switch version let me play these games offline without wifi? Do the games play better on the Switch 2?
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>>730533242
The Switch version is a cloud version
You cannot play it offline at all :)
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>Replayed the series recently because it came out on Steam two years ago
>Don't look at wikis, guides, or any of that shit
>Story is really straight forward
Is this shit like Undertale/Deltarune where nobody actually played it?
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>>730534063
Yes, duh. Even from just this thread you've got retards like >>730522395 that will tell you to play 1 and 2 and none of the others, so you miss like 75% of the story that way.

The only one that's not straightforward is UX, because that was intentionally designed to be misleading and confusing, with clues and tidbits scattered here and there as to the actual truth of the matter.
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>>730534063
KH never used to be this clear cut, it used to be spread across consoles.
So for the full story you would need to play these games in the following order with the following consoles
> 1(PS2)< COM (GBA) or Recom (PS2) < 2 (PS2) < BBS (PSP) < DAYS + Coded (DS) < DDD (3DS) < 0.2 (PS4) < 3 (ALL)

You would need 6 consoles to experience this all in one neat package and its not like these games are numbered so people play them out of order. The confusion is understandable
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>>730534280
Dude, having replayed the entire series the only "spinoff" I'd say is sort of "story mandatory" is BBS.
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>>730534573
COM is absolutely essential
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>>730534573
If we're going by chronological entries BBS is KH0, CoM is KH1.5, and DDD is KH2.5. 2.8 and Re:Coded are the real "spinoffs" of the main series.
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>>730534657
You can get a really good grasp on Roxas and Axel from 2.
>But what about Marluxia and Larxene???
They're both assholes and don't need further elaboration.
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>>730534814
Namine
What happened to Sora between 1 and 2
What happened to Riku and Mickey between 1 and 2
Why a group called Organization XIII is missing almost half of its members
Introducing the concept of replicas
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The cloud version is so fucking stupid
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>>730535139
>Namine
Explained in 2
>What happened to Sora between 1 and 2
Doesn't actually need to be answered
>Why Organization XIII is missing a bunch of people
Can be inferred through 2
>Introducing the concept of Replicas
Doesn't actually need a back story.
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>>730521140
Does this fit "JRPG" as a genre?
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>>730534573
So...does that mean you're excluding DDD as a "spinoff"?
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>>730535620
Even recognizing that I did play it.
I got the fucking, Applecrumb Masterpiece collection or whatever that came with everything.
Yeah I wouldn't say I was really lost at all in KH3 without the backdrop of what happened in DDD.
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>>730534063
A lot of people played one or two games 10 years ago and then spread misinformation based on half memories they have.
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>>730520672
Even 100%ing the games can be done in 40-60 hours, more for BBS by its nature but they really aren't that bad.
Except 100%ing Re:COM
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>>730523589
>caring this much about news and hype
bro just play something else getting news won't make it come out any faster and it won't change whether or not it'll be shit on release.
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>>730520672
I played through all of them (including the DS games) in the 5 months leading up to KH3 release though
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>>730534063
>most people have extreme ADD
>most people also have poor reading comprehension
>most people also get most of their information from third-parties
Really should not surprise you. Something being shit has always been an excuse for retards to say whatever nonsense they want and think it'll be validated.
FF13 is the same where the game is shit but not at all hard to understand or follow nor do you need to read datalogs.
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>>730535139
That's like saying it's story mandatory to know why Mickey lost his shirt in the Realm of Darkness.
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>>730521301
>normal playing order
Days should be after 2
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>>730531502
The biggest issue with BBS is that it's a mainline tier game concept but stuck with spinoff tier production values due to the original hardware. The wasted potential is a shame.
If they ever decide to remake a KH game they should definitely start with BBS.
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>>730520672
They're like 20 hours max if you just want to get through the story. The longest one on there is probably 358/2 Days, but that one being a DS game was cut down to just be a cutscene viewer in the collection that takes less than an hour to watch. believe me, these games go by quick, they are not like trying to play say the Yakuza series.
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>>730520672
the problem with KH is that only KH1 and 2 are good and the rest aren't. So after you beat 2 you're already past the series' peak, it's all downhill from there. I honestly didn't expect KH would continue past 3 because what is even left to tell?
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>>730536159
There's a difference between "we need to explain why Mickey wasn't wearing the shirt he usually wears since we didn't create it at the time of this game" and "Sora woke up in a pod when at the end of 1 he was ready to go on another adventure"
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>>730536448
I stand by that KH Chain of Memories is good. The gameplay requires more thinking, and it's such a unique view into Sora because he's literally going through Dementia during it shop wing you how he would act had he never met the people he did in his life. It was the first and last time Sora was ever genuinely angry in the series, and we need more of it.
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>>730536637
Did you not actually play Kingdom Hearts 2?
It is extremely obvious why Sora is in a pod.
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>>730536448
I really don't know how people can fellate KH2 but find the others outright bad. They're worse, sure, but not so bad that they aren't still good.
It comes as people who only play maybe 10-20 games top.
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Never met anyone that liked KH and wasn't either gay or a woman.
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>>730537035
You must not talk to a lot of black men around the age of 25-30 then.
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>>730520672
Play 1, CoM on the GBA, 2, Watch days for KH2 context then stop.
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>>730520672
Just play the first game.
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After 20+ long years, I think I'm ready to accept a simple truth
Everything bad about KH post-2 is Disney's fault, yeah the story is overly complicated, but you know what? It wouldn't have needed to been if Disney wasn't so autstic about their characters and let them woven naturally into the story outside of Mickey and friends, with literally every other world being glorified filler. Yeah the gameplay and mechanics aren't as polished as they should post 3, but you know what? Maybe it could've been if Disney let them have the time to polish it and properly balance the game

Fuck you Mouse
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>>730520672
Is the Steam port good yet? I remember a lot of people saying it had a lot of problems since it was a quick job from the epic game release.
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Just watch this and you'll be caught up on the lore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCZs29IAu3c
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>>730537909
>the Pixar worlds have almost no faults, even the creators of Toy Story considered the Toy Story world canon
>the Disney worlds are either okay enough, or Frozen-tier garbage
It always leads back to the Mouse.
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>>730534063
People only get confused because they skip games, this whole narrative of the series being confusing started after KH2 had released and almost nobody had beat CoM.
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>>730538247
Toy Story world's fault is Woody's VA being fucking awful, but that's again Disney's fault
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>>730538253
I've said it several times over this thread, but I'm genuinely confused as to what you'd think is "missing" in 2 if you skipped CoM.
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KH1 is incredibly short
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>>730539808
You're free to explain how 2 perfectly explains everything that happened in CoM
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>>730520672
Because you got a terminal illness?
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>>730540153
It doesn't need to.
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>>730520672
Having "the darkness" be an actual character is still the stupidest thing KH has ever done
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>>730520672
Only play KH1, COM, and KH2.
Ignore all the other ones. Trust me.
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>>730537035
Far be it for me to question what company you keep.
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>>730539808
You'll miss them explaining replicas therefore being confused about characters like Roxas and more coming back in 3 as well as Replica riku. This is never explained unless you play CoM.
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>>730540378
This is the best way to play, although DDD and Recoded are fun.
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>>730540962
Replicas literally don't matter to KH's story at all. I honestly don't know why Repiku was still around by KH3
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>>730541254
They also more or less explain them in KH3, too.
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>>730541254
Because they matter in KH3, what a fucking weird thing to say
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>they added Combo Master to KH1 for the 1.5 release
>couldn't do the same for BBS in 2.5
The game punishes you so hard for whiffing attacks
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>>730534063
Honestly out of everything I think the parodies did the most damage. At least with the console jumping you still had places like Insider and co. for information, but the incessant "Kairi is Donald's nobody that's secretly Cloud's brother's heartless from the past lmao so Simple and Clean amirite xD" trite that you still see peddled to this day (even though things are beyond that now) poisoned so many peoples' minds, especially with the onset of early 10s irony poisoning mixing with cringe culture which caused a lot of people to drop the franchise and forget a lot so when they saw "lol the keyblade is Sora's mom" they genuinely thought it was true.
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Imagine being a fan of a series story and it's characters and skipping games that progress the series story and characters.
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>>730541593
Yeah imagine being a fan of GAMES and not playing the GAMES that have GAMEPLAY YOU DON'T LIKE?
What a concept.
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>>730539889
KH1 is fucking kino of the highest degree
As a standalone game its fucking incredible
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>>730541747
>/v/ when somebody says they should play video game series that they claim to be a fan of
My bad bro
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>>730541520
Even with combo master that wouldn't fix bosses getting super armor so often.
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>>730534063
A lot of people mistake stupid for convoluted. Didn't help that vital lore was spread out across five different consoles and a mobile game
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>>730542000
>ERM, /v/ you are a FAKE FAN if you didn't play the gacha.
>How else would you know the critical story detail that Riku has size 16 feet?
That's you, that's how dumb you sound
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>>730534814
The bulk of Riku's redemption arc is in Reverse/Rebirth
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>>730531502
I don't like the story or the combat so that makes it an automatic 6/10 at best
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How would Roxas feel if Sora didn't have breakfast this morning?
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>>730520672
what's even the point of playing them if you're not an edgy teen living in the 2000s?
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>>730538247
The Caribbean is the best world in the series though
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>>730542327
He wouldn't because he is a nobody
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>>730542157
>Not playing the game that leads into KH4
Better watch your favorite content creator play the games for you my fellow fanboy! :^)
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>>730542204
Ah yes
The redemption arc that is ONLY in chain of memories.
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>>730542493
Riku does not in fact manage to conquer his inner demons in KH1
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>>730542493
Gotta work on your reading comprehension, anon. CoM is where Riku actually works to redeem himself and it's still his best showing in any of the games
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>>730520672
The only ones you actually need to play are 1, Re:CoM, 2, BBS, and 3
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>>730542626
He doesn't in Chain Of Memories either dumbass.
He doesn't even really do it in Days.
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>>730533242
Might as well wait for the Switch 2 version, if it ever comes.
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>>730542493
Yes you absolute buffoon
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Kingdom Hearts fans really don't play their games, I don't know why I'm surprised.
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>>730542748
>He doesn't in Chain Of Memories either dumbass.
The final boss of his story is quite literally him doing exactly that
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>>730536105
>nor do you need to read datalogs.
I had to read the datalog to understand early conversations.
>What the hell is a l'cie and fal'cie?
>Ohh, this all make sense now
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>>730542684
This part and Roxas getting furious about his circumstances at the start of KH2 were pretty impactful, kinda wish there was more of this stuff and much less Disney worlds. Honestly as I'm playing through the games now and halfway through 2 I don't enjoy any of the crossover worlds really.
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>>730542493
Why is a dark man raping a little boy?
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>>730542867
So nothing happened in Days or KH2 then, right?
Dumbass, why are you arguing with someone who actually played the game?
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>>730534063
You've missed out on like 90% of the lore by not playing the japan-only browser game
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>>730542984
I feel like that's because the console games are held to some standard that keeps the disney worlds from being really interesting. Dark Road manages to use the things in disney worlds for the plot in a good way.
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>>730543103
>This angered the Kingdom Hearts ''''fan''''
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>>730543079
Riku doesn't actually do much in Days that progresses his own arc. He wants to help Sora and that's basically it.
KH2 is where his redemption arc ends, but you still need everything before that for it to actually make sense.
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>Missing Link shit canned
>KH4 still nowhere to be found
We're genuinely not getting anything until 2027 at the earliest aren't we?
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>>730543364
You know maybe I didn't make it clear enough for your retarded ass.
I beat both COM and Days.
So wiggling around like a retard and telling me that there's something I totally missed from the wiki you read has zero impact.
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>>730543226
Yeah Dark Road used places like Wonderland really well.
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>>730543475
I don't give a fuck about what you have and haven't played. You are downplaying CoM's importance to the overall story and you are factually incorrect in saying you can skip it. You playing it doesn't make you any less of an angry retard
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>''KH isn't even that confusing!!''
>Entire thread is people being confused about KH
Lmfao
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>>730543576
More like one retard insisting that you don't need to play all the games
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>>730543226
Yeah, obviously they can't stray too far from the source material or portray the other IPs in certain ways. That only makes them really boring to me though, and the gimmicks of some worlds are just plain annoying. I don't mind the King Mickey type stuff and I like the OC bits a lot even when they involve characters like Merlin or Maleficent, but the filler is really killing my motivation. Especially when it's a pain in the bum like the Scar boss or the KH2 sea world that is an extremely slow rhythm game for some reason.
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>>730543439
>2027
Feeling hopeful, are we?
I just wanted more info about Strelitzia since she kinda came and went instantly in KHuX, and now she's going to be a major character in 4. I have no doubt that Missing Link was intended to flesh her out before she got a place in the spotlight. I just wanted to see more of her since she's cute.
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>>730543576
It's not even that people are confused, it's retards mad that people who played the series are telling you that you don't have to play the game where Riku finds out Namine and Kairi both fart as a critical detail to the story, like the fact that they're similar is something you could AT ALL MISS playing KH1 and 2.
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>>730543654
You don't mostly because everything after KH2 is shit
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>>730543439
>2027
Anon...
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>>730543717
When I say "getting anything" I mean literally anything, screenshots and trailers included, the fucking probably won't release until 2028 or 2029, assuming things are actually going smoothly like they claim, which I doubt
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This is only going to get worse when KH4 comes out and people don't understand how much critical information was in the phone games. Yes it sucks that you need to play them to understand the plot, but that's Kingdom Hearts.
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>>730543576
>>730543724
KH's story isn't confusing if you play it, it's just bad
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>>730520672
Play 1
Play 2
Watch the cutscenes from all the grindy shitty handgeld games
Do not play 3
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>>730543912
>If you play it
Nobody does this
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>>730520672
You just play 1,CoM and 2 and then read the days manga
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>>730544006
Why would want to play half a series that's bad?
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>>730544006
I DID and that's why there's a retard in this thread whining that I said the only really non-optional games are 1, 2, 3 and bbs for the general story.
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>>730544105
So you can confidently say that they're bad instead of parroting opinions about them that you don't actually know the validity of?
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>>730529673
Probably very few of them, most of them probably got caught up in Gen Z's South Korean obsession rather than the Japanese and Chinese obsessions of the older generations
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>>730544204
>He thinks I haven't played these games
lol
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>>730529673
>>730544238
They know via Smash ironically enough
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>>730544105
>Why would want to play?
>Me no understand plot point in KH4
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>>730544120
Good luck understanding 4
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>>730544272
I don't know who you are.
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You people joke about shit like Rikus foot size not being important, but think about how fucking autistic Nomura is. He wrote a canon reason for why Mickey doesn't wear a shirt in Kingdom Hearts 1.
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>>730544352
It is pretty hard to not understand the plot of a game that doesn't exist
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>>730544501
Don't pretend like you're going to understand when it comes out you filthy heartless.
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>>730544367
A.
>I still have played all the games
B.
>Implying someone will unironically pick up KH4 some day and say
>WOWIE GEE WILLACRES, I DON'T KNOW WHO THIS LAURIUM GUY IS, AND ROXAS WHO ENIGMATICALLY SHOWED UP AT THE START OF BBS'S STORY AS A FULLY GROWN LITTLE BOY HAS A HISTORY BEFORE THAT?? I NEVER COULD HAVE GUESSED AND NOW I CAN'T PLAY THE GAME AT ALL BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON :(((((
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>>730544730
Calm down man
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>You don't need to play them all
>I did, but I assure you that had no impact on my understanding of the story
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>>730542882
>need
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>>730544792
They won't understand that lying about playing a games, isn't the same as actually playing the games.
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>>730544790
You're stupid! You don't get that you should play the side games because they're fun, like days, and not because you'll have some super secret better understanding of the games.
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>>730544730
I'm rooting for you anon, no need to be hostile. I hope you understand what the thirteen Darknesses are and who Strelitzia is.
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Are some of you being willingly obtuse?
People are saying don't play the games past 2 because they're bad, not because they're not important to the story
DDD is a horrible dogshit game, but it is important to the story. Hence why you're better off watching cutscenes on Youtube than actually playing them
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>>730535493
I would say KH at its prime is the peak example of the ARPG genre, as an offshoot of JRPG. If you're specifically referring for length, most JRPGs fall into 60-70 hours because most require grinding of some sort. You never really need to do that with KH unless you want some obscure super weapons (mainly KH1).

For 1, 2 and 3's DLC - you might really enjoy the super/secret bosses. You'd probably put the majority of your time into prepping for those.

>>730520672
For KH, just play 1 and 2. The others you can just watch summaries for. 3 you'd play to cap off the series, but it's just a mediocre entry itself. The DLC helped it though.
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>>730544945
I'm on your side, just calm yourself.
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>>730538372
>but that's again Disney's fault
More Tom Hanks' fault for being comically expensive despite only being in like two good non-animated movies.
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>>730545078
Yeah but the story past 2 is just as bad as the games themselves so you might as well skip the summaries too
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>>730545078
>DDD is a horrible dogshit game
Nah, it's fine. It's not as good as 1, 2, or Re:Coded, but it's good.
The only genuinely bad games in this entire series are the Switch/PS3 ports and the phone games. Everything else never dips below "An interesting 6/10" tier at ABSOLUTE worst (Re:CoM, specifically) and if you can't enjoy a nice 6/10 from time to time you don't enjoy vidya as a hobby.
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I like Re:CoM more than all of the other spinoffs
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>>730545376
Fuck off.
I hate Dream Eaters as both a concept and gameplay mechanic, and the flow motion doesn't feel right half the time
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>>730545136
Homie is swinging at all the attacks and getting all the tech points
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>>730545684
don't make me giggle, that's gay
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>>730545505
Re:CoM was okay, just an inferior version of CoM. I liked it though, just not enough to merit a second playthrough. The plot was pretty good by KH standards.
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>>730545662
I don't care for Flowmotion either, but Dream Eaters are, frnakly, a better party system than 90% of the series since they're the first time party members actually get to be functional and useful since fucking KH1. Obviously it's by neccessity (since you'd never want to sink resources into something that can die permanently if it wasn't actually helpful) but seeing your party get to use actual functional defensive/offensive spells and being able to customize their AI in genuine meaningful ways (even if the method by which you do it is retarded) is better than KH2/KH3 party mechanics by a country fucking mile.

The only major flaw that the system has is that grinding out lategame mats for dream eater synthesis is damn near impossible thanks to the weird ass weather system and how many of them are exclusive to either letting a specific Dream Eater die or an unrepeatable battlegate reward.
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>>730545905
It's just not fun to control/manage your dream eater party anon, if I wanted to play Pokemon or even Persona, I would. And only half of them are useful, the other half are fodder at best
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>>730545905
Dream Eaters were really fun honestly, easily the best part of DDD besides the all the 10/10 final fights.
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>>730546053
I'm not saying you should have to do the whole Nintendogs pet/pokemon raising shtick in every game, just that I like for party members in an ARPG to actually be functionally useful and not completely worthless like KH2/KH3.
>And only half of them are useful, the other half are fodder at best
There are obviously some that are better than others, but I disagree with this pretty strongly. They can all be pretty good with the right setup.
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>>730520672
You CAN'T play through the whole series, tho. There's mobile garbage that was garbage and is not available anymore because it was garbage
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>>730546302
Most of us did it already, but the mobile garbage plots are required if you want to understand KH4 when it comes out.
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>>730520672
None of these games take particularly long to play through the story.
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>>730546302
Just like ff7. There's at least 1 game that was only available on Japanese phones that's already been purged. There's no way to get the whole ff7 expanded experience without it
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>>730546406
>but the mobile garbage plots are required if you want to understand KH4 when it comes out.
We literally do not know that, yet. There's a nonzero chance they explain the important parts in KH4, just like how everything that matters in Re:Coded was explained elsewhere.
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>>730546406
Not true. I can just post a made up criticism on /v/ about whatever I want to know about and anons will correct me with the actual lore.
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>>730546272
Again, I'm playing fucking Kingdom Hearts for monster sim mechanics, and not being utterly useless is the least they could do.

I don't care what justifcation you have, it's neither fun to raise them or have them in your party. To say nothing about their in-story role
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>>730546406
It was just you and a few others, anon
Consider yourself lucky, if you please
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>>730546479
Yes we do know that, literally a key character from the mobile games is in the trailer for KH4. And MoM is from the mobile games who is confirmed to be a major character in KH4.
>>730546516
Facts don't care about your feelings.
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>>730543103
>>730543345
but I did play that game, and the mobile version and watched the movie in the PS4 collection
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Always funny to see how fucking MAD anons get when they're told they cant play or watch something they never had any intention to in the first place
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>>730546553
What fucking game has monster bullshit in it, lol
Fuck me
Fuck this series and waiting a decade and a half til releasing part 3
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>>730534063
People are retarded and don’t know what the convoluted actually means. Also the series was scattered across every console of the time under the sun for a long time so I’m sure people tried to start with CoM or BBS and have no clue what was going on.
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>>730546605
>I watched the movie in the PS4 collection
>He thinks this is enough
HAHAHAHAHAHA. No you didn't play that game, otherwise you wouldn't be arguing.
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>>730546590
That does nothing to contradict what I said about them potentially explaining relevant plot points in KH4 itself, retard.
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Is there a compilation somewhere that rounds up the important parts of UX/Dark Road? I dropped the game round mission 300 or so and every one I see online is flooded with Disney filler
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>>730546616
Some of didn't even know mobile garbage was released or was plot relevant to playing part 3 which took way too fucking long to be released
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>>730546770
Yeah because they did such a great job of that last time dumb fuck
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>>730528859
This except he should watch Donald use Zetaflare on Youtube ir something after.
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>>730546782
And fuck all, cause i got 1 and 2 on release
YOURE FUCKING WELCOME FOR CARRYING THE SERIES ON OUR BACKS WHILE YOU STOOD ON THE SIDELINES TO TEST THE WATERS WITH YOUR DAINTY TOES
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>>730546694
Learn to read anon, I played the games as well, even got max level both in the original KHX and Dark Road, couldn't be bothered with Union X though.
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>>730541471
KH3 doesn't matter to 1 or 2 though.
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>>730536207
Yeah, they really could have done something better. Still at least Aqua is hot even if she is dull as dirt.
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Anons, how do you deal with those big sword nobodies in KH2? Sometimes you can burst them down with their own swords, others you just instantly die to their super fast spammy attack when there's three of them grouped.
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>>730521301
They fucked up the order anyways. It should be
>KH1
>Re:CoM
>KH2
>Days (use melon mix to actually play it on PC)
>BBS
>Re:Coded (use melon mix to actually play it on PC)
>DDD
>0.8 BBS
>mobile game cutscenes (it's missing a lot in the HD remake, so you'll need to see the rest on youtube)
>KH3
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>>730520672
KH1--BBS--KH2 is maybe 120-140 hours altogether with all side content, recipes, and challenges. Its not that bad if you commit.
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>>730525483
It's doomed to fail because the cancer that is nu-disney will corporatize any ideas for cool shit into the ground just like they did with Marvel vs. Capcom and turning that series into an interactive MCU movie trailer. The only way KH could come back is if disney wasn't involved...but then it wouldn't be KH. Theseus' ship or something like that.
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>>730547696
Don't be so negative. Look at it the other way around, there's a chance we'll get Sora in some Marvel movie and that would be hilarious.
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Nomura missed his chance to make a new KH without Disneys bullshit
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>>730547816
Anon, this was never going to happen. No matter the context
Let go already
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>>730520672
>Cloud versions
Wew lads. Why did they do this?
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>>730547904
IT WAS
IT SHALL, STILL
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>>730547779
>yfw it just dawned on you that a KH Movie may happen

How could this happened without Disney fucking it up?
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>>730547995
>mfw its not versions where you can play as edgelord Cloud instead of Sora...
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>>730547696
>>730547779
Marvel is extremely autistic about how they're represented, unless it's an entiely new universe, they're going micro-manage the shit out of SE to make sure they get everything right and have it fit into THEIR canon, which is its own can of worms considering of dense capeshit actually is
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>>730548105
It can't.
Disney doesn't understand the appeal of KH besides being another branch in their marketeing team. The KH cast doesn't even appear in the Disney parks 90% of the time, and the Sora costume they had is piss ugly and rightfully buried.
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>>730548146
Not really. They do "experimental" stuff all the time, like that animated marvel what if show. They could just have some slightly goofy spin off where the Avengers have to travel to Disney worlds like a reverse Kingdom Hearts and one of the worlds is Twilight Town being attacked by Heartless or something.
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logmur lost
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So KH is just Final Fantasy characters in Disney worlds, right?
What's the big deal
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>>730548146
A monkey's paw. There are so many Marvel IPs that could work really well with KH. Like a "comic world" based on silver age Marvel with a villain like Doom or Beyonder.
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KH story only filters retards who can't pay attention. It isn't remotely confusing if you have normal IQ.
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>>730548312
Yeah I imagine it'll just be a KH version of the Phineas and Ferb special.
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>>730548326
The original shit they do is REALLY well done and KH1 feels like a Disney movie by itself. It's not just the FF presence that makes KH so engaging. A lot of money and effort went into giving what felt like an original Disney style experience with worlds built by jrpg industry veterans. This means you have a VERY competent game with a flair that feels almost nostalgic if you were a kid in 2000
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>>730548326
The gameplay is actually just unique and fun
Just a peak ARPG series really and everything else is icing
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>>730548772
Why not just play dmc or some shit then
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>>730548312
They're expirmental under their own roof anon. If someone else wants to play with their toys, they need to be VERY careful how they're protrayed, and can't be off from the official lore in the slightest. There are stories of devs saying how anal they are with their lore

>>730548463
Honestly, I would love a comic based world, but the the whole "unreality" I have a sinking suspicion it's going to be based more of the MCU
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>>730548687
Even the Phineas and Ferb special had to follow stritct rules with how the characters were handled, even if it was under a comedic context
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>>730548912
>There are stories of devs saying how anal they are with their lore
That can't be true with how badly they treat the lore in their blockbuster films. Maybe I'd believe that back during the early days of the MCU.
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>>730548883
Why?
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>>730548883
I play both. DMC is DMC. KH is KH. I'm not going to turn down strawberry ice cream just because vanilla is also tasty.

>food analogy
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>>730549018
Seeing how hard MvC pivoted from kino like UMvC3 to something like infinite, my assumption is that now Marvel is anal about aligning with MCU.
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>>730549018
Maybe it's not the case anymore (I doubt it), but in most cases I've heard they're very anal and particular about how they're represented. If I recall right, Capcom devs said they needed to get Doctor Strange's hand singals right to perform spells in both MVC3 and MVCI
That's just one character, now imagine how hard they are on the rest, and on the world in general.
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>>730549018
Like>>730548912 said, they don't give a fuck if the lore is slaughtered under their own roof.
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BBS
KH1
CoM
Days
2
Dream Drop
3

Aqua's side game is great. Re:Coded is fun but not super important. Mobile games are mostly lore and background dumps.
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>>730534063
Pretty much, KH1/2 are pretty simple even BBS and the fucking mobile game are by virtue of being prequels. Only thing is almost everything is essential so playing KH3 is the equivalent of telling someone that their first marvel movie should be Avengers Endgame or at least only see the films with Avengers in the title while skipping Infinity War which you can argue KH's equivalent is either BBS or DDD.
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>>730540293
>t. the light
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>>730549331
Damn, MvC was a victim of that? I really liked that game because of the cosmic marvel stuff that you never saw anywhere and the skins in that game were full of references that MCU never shows.
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>>730547281
>Its missing alot on the HD remake
Anon, the cutscenes on 0.8 are not even a measly 10% of the shit that went down in the mobage.

That game is unironically the most important canon wise, you play KHIII after the context of Ux and is a different game.
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> if you can't enjoy a nice 6/10 from time to time you don't enjoy vidya as a hobby.
Holy shit someone that actually enjoys video games. Yes, even a game that is a substantial downgrade from a 9 or 10 out of 10 should still be enjoyable.
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2>1>3>re:coded=>0.2>BBS=>DDD=>Re:CoM>days.
This is the objective ranking.
You're still a cool dude if you put 1 over 2.
Cope and sneed if you don't agree.
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>>730549068
>I play both.
You might as well be speaking in tongues Anon.
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>>730549629
So re:coded is more fun to play than 0.2 and BBS? It doesn't get old quick or anything?
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>>730520672
Play KH1 Final Mix. Then play KH2 Final Mix. You have successfully experienced the peak of the series and pretty much the only worthwhile games. Chain of Memories is a gimmicky card game and anything released past KH2 isn't worth paying attention to. Unless you want to be constantly underwhelmed. By the way, do not play the first 2 games for the story. They have great soundtracks and action gameplay but don't expect anything from the embarrassing plotline that people pretend is totally meaningful and engaging.
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>>730549615
>>730545376
You guys are alright. Don't go to Destiny Island tomorrow.
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>>730550129
I don't know if anything has ever annoyed me more than learning that "Destiny Island" was a pun.
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>>730550052
Chain of Memories is fun, honestly. It's great for a handheld.
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>>730549903
I'd say 0.2 amd re:coded are on par with eachother hence the =>, but I put it above since it is a full fledged game instead of a tech demo.
It's definitely better than bbs from a pure gameplay perspective.
It's biggest weakness is honestly that it repeats kh1's worlds yet again, but combat is bretty gud and has tons of fun mechanics.
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>>730550259
Of?
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holy shit
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>>730550259
I've been with the series since day 1 and never knew that.
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>>730549480
They're like like with all 3rd party devs that want to play with their characters.
Activision had a Juggernaut boss fight for a X-Men game and the build for said boss fight was rejected at first, because canonically Juggernaut is literally unstoppable while wearing his helmet, and a traditional boss fight de-values the lore. Marvel then gave each of the devs a copy of the Marvel X-Men Encyclopedia
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>>730550313
Disney Island?
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>>730549629
Are you including remind with 3?
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>>730550270
It's not completely terrible, but I wouldn't consider it to be a game that anybody is missing out on if they don't play it.
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>>730550259
>>730550420
That's not a pun. You mean its an anagram, anon.
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>>730550421
Yeah.
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>>730550368
I wonder if that's why Juggernaut was so busted in Marvel Heroes. I fucking miss that game.
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>>730550313
NTA but it's
an anagram of 'It's Disney Land' and can also be read as 'This Tiny Island'
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>>730550420
>>730550493
Wrong.
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>>730550270
>>730550430
The GBA version of CoM is better
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>>730550575
This is a fact. 3d space for that game made some fights feel like straight cancer like Larxene and Riku Replica 2
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>>730550702
I honestly just cheesed everything with sleights.
Only boss that gave me trouble was marluxia, because his first phase is in the air so all the sleights I abused throughout the entire game couldn't him and I couldn't switch decks between phases.
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>>730550259
>>730550493
>>730550568
>dandelions is also an anagram for Disneyland
You've got to be fucking kidding me
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>>730550859
I wouldnt necessarily call it cheesing since the game is built around sleights. I'm pretty sure the whole point is to build deck capacity and arrange your cards so you can chain sleights and reload into a new set of sleights.
If anything, that's what I enjoy about the combat. If you know the damage of your sleights you literally build decks that are guaranteed to win as long as you play them out properly.
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>>730549903
Re:Coded's two major flaws (gameplay wise) are the hardware restrictions from being on the DS, and the gimmick levels. The first causes constant issues with things like how enemies will despawn if they get comboed too far beyond where they appeared, and the latter takes away from the actual good systems with shit that ranges from "kinda cute" (wonderland/olympus) to "objective dogshit" (every single time they do those platforming bits). The actual systems of the game are probably the best of the series on paper.
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>>730551042
NOMURA
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>>730551042
>>dandelions is also an anagram for Disneyland
It is?
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>>730551731
Obviously not when y is in only one of the words
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>>730550575
I really should give that version a try, the sprite work is insane when compared to every other GBA game.
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Doesnt matter. These cringe games are made for cuckllenials anyways.
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>>730552478
That's right, so stay out little boy
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>>730552965
You uh... clearly don't understand how to read those results, prajesh
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>>730520672
>KH1FM
24-35 hours
>CoM
3 hours of youtube cutscenes or around 20 hours
>KH2FM
infinite hours of pure kino but about 40 the first time

every game after that is dogshit so you're looking at an investment of around 100h for peak KH which is like one ubislop game, not bad
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>>730553079
Trading one vowel for another doesn't seem like a stretch anon
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>>730553970
Do you know what an anagram is, anon?
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>>730534063
the steam games are like the intro, once the mobile autism starts it's just a mess
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>>730554282
And it is one anon, albeit not as perfect as the others. But come the fuck on, you expect me to think "Disneyland" being one letter off from dandelion, and that being an important plot point is a coincidence?
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>>730534063
nobody cares about the story how many times do we have to explain it to you
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>>730554458
Dandelions have a long symbolic history, yes it is most likely a coincidence
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>>730554824
Not saying they don't. But lining so close to fucking Disney of all things? This was intentional given everything else this series does
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>>730520672
only play 1 and 2,forget the rest
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>>730535493
It's a Japanese RPG
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>>730520672
>Kingdom Hearts 3 turns 7 later this month
Something about this game, I swear to God, throws off my sense of time. I keep thinking it only came out a year or two ago.
Replayed 1 this past year. Still holds up.
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>>730555274
Same. Time has stopped for at least 10 years now.
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>>730520672
You can breeze through them in like 2 weeks
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>>730535860
Putting a cheevo behind max leveling both characters was a sick joke.
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>>730523589
>Finish this series
?
Story's been finished bro wdym?
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>>730555628
Cheevos are stupid
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>>730555628
Sora is fine, it's just like two or three hours turning your brain off at Destiny Islands with Mega Flare.
Riku 99 though...
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>>730520672
>Cloud Versions
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>>730528859
Imagine a Kingdom Hearts on the SNES
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>>730555628
Cheevo fags deserve to suffer. Too bad the higher difficulty clears also unlock the lower difficuty cheevos on other systems than PS3
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>>730534657
Based COM enjoyer
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>>730534657
>CoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM4rxdI5LRA
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>>730556418
DUAL WIELD!
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>>730520672
this shit trash garbage filth isn't worth the time
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>>730556418
This image is nauseating, please never post it again
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>>730556119
Back when disney had soul
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>>730557494
And Square still had restraint. Imagine if instead of KH1 we got some soulless cashgrab mobile thing and never even touched deep lore. We lived through the golden age, anon.
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perfect timing for this thread, I'm going through the games, finished KH1 and re:com last week, at the start of KH2 (which I played a long time ago without understanding the story because it was my first KH)

without getting into spoiler territory, how much of the organization XIII gets explored in the upcoming games? nothing against sora but I feel like his story wrapped up nicely with KH1, I kinda just want to learn more about roxas now
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>>730560368
Days is Roxas' story but is best played after finishing 2.
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>>730520672
I played through the entire thing for the first time last year and it was a fucking slog towards the end. Birth by sleep might be one of the worst games I've ever played in my life
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>>730549538
>>730547281
There is an entire fandub (that isn't even that bad) on Youtube for Unchained X and Union Cross
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>>730560368
Days does nothing to really cover Roxas or the Organization even though it's set literally during Roxas' time in it. It's all about Xion and Roxas' connection to her developing part of his character while Axel is mostly tending to CoM. You're meant to play it after 2.
BBS is a prequel though it features some of the Organization's members.
DDD focuses on one of them but it's more about Xehanort and YX.
KHUX is a prequel set before the second Keyblade War and involves many of them.
KH3 builds off of what KHUX established and they're around regularly.
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>>730560517
good shit, looking forward to days then
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>>730520672
>Game revealed almost 4 years ago at this point
>tell you faggots we're heading for another KH3 situation, can tell because the gameplay looks fake as fuck just as KH3's reveal 'gameplay' did
>get (You)'d several times per thread saying it's not going to happen, KH3 was just an unfortunate situation and KH4 will be different
>mfw
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>>730560749
>playing all of them back to back to back
>it was a fucking slog towards the end
gee
>Birth by sleep might be one of the worst games I've ever played in my life
see
>>730545376
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>>730529846
Really? I should tell more people in my college down I'm into it then
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>>730560368
Days is all about organization 13, but instead of focusing on the actual members it mostly focuses on the writers literal oc.
Though a lot of people think it has the best story in the franchise so either play the game, watch the cutscene collection or read the manga and form so you'll have to form your own opinion about it.
Some of the later games expand more on the backstories of certain members.
Sora will always be the mc and will always get dragged away to fight new bad guys, but if there is any solace for you the games don't shy away from shelf him for an extended period of time.
DDD was initially planned to be a riku solo game, but it had been so long since sora made a proper appearance in the story and playable that he went out of his way to include him as well.
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>>730545376
>and the phone games
KHUX and Dark Road are fine when it comes to the story. I agree on gameplay.
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>>730531502
It's cool with the mod that lets you animation cancel out of endlag animations of command abilities, makes the combat feel much more responsive.
>>730534063
Most grogs who don't understand the story up until DDD simply didn't play the handheld games.
After DDD it starts to get a bit wonky but can still be followed.
>>730543576
It isn't, people just refuse to do the required playing/reading/watching to know what is happening and then they get mad that they don't understand what is going on.
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If Dark Road was a real KH game it would be hailed one of the top 3 stories of a KH game.
They just need to remake the mobile games in the KH3 engine as a 3.8 before KH4.
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They need to make Re:Union just so we can see if they make medals like commands or like Materia.
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>>730561407
>Re:Union
I was almost certain this was going to be a thing since the name alone is the most nomura thing ever, but the fact that handhelds and low budget spinoff titles are dead in modern gaming is probably why it happened.
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>>730560845
We were supposed to get Missing Link a year or so ago but then they cancelled it out of nowhere. If it actually came out the gap would be far smaller.
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>>730520672
They are really short games. I played through the whole series before KH3 came out and it took less than 100 hours.
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>>730550859
>marluxia
Holy FLUX! He was anticlimatic to me. I went with a just randomly-built deck, only looking at high numbers for the most part, and then switched due to pure ice+fire sleights + 0s for breaks on Larxene. When I got to Marluxia, I switched the deck to use the highest-end keyblade sleight I had, just Sonic Blade, and he went down quickly without ever touching me. This was on Proud. The Riku parts were more interesting, though the Wonderland part was annoying with the limited deck. Wish the games would let you play as someone else more often. 358/2 days had the right idea about it.
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>>730560845
This isn't another KH3 situation, this is worse than a KH3 situation.
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>>730520672
? whats the point
theres only 2 good games
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Tried playing KH1 a while ago and it was so stiff and janky I couldn't get into it.
Should I give KH2 a try? It always looked like a huge leap in quality and I know its where the story went full Nomura so that's fun.
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>>730563736
You can but you'll be completely lost.
Though I still think kh1 is worth finishing.
How far in did you get?
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>>730520672
I played through the entire thing before KH3 came out, and watched all the cutscenes for 358/2 Days and Chain of Memories, just to make sure I had all the convoluted-ass lore straight in my head, and I think it took me maybe a few months, but I also play really slowly.

I couldn't tell you what the hell happened at this point. I think I ran into Stitch.
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>>730531502
Having to play through the game essentially three times is kind of a drag, though the different gameplay styles at least makes it a little different.
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>>730520672
The first one is just a neat little crossover of squareSOFT and disney
For better or worse from the second one it goes into its own direction
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>>730560845
the problem with KH3's development was an engine switch like 1-1.5 years into it
this time the entire company is fucked and "rebooting"
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>>730563736
use more magic in KH1
the game starts to feel satisfying towards the end when you got your full kit (and are actually using it) and enemies turn into loot pinatas
combat and movement wise 2 is an insane step up though, still probably the best ARPG ever made
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3 brought back so many characters that should have remained dead
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>>730567110
never cave to fans, instead have a real vision.
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>>730520672
KH1FM and KH2FM are the only ones worth playing and it only takes ~70 hours to beat both of them
the story is a convoluted mess so just read a plot summary of Chain of Memories after beating KH1
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>>730567110
>>730567384
Can you believe there are multiple fags in these threads that honestly think that roxas and Xion coming back was a good thing?
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>>730563736
It's supposed to feel stiff at the start because you're a dumb kid wielding a giant metal key he has no experience with. It gets smoother as you unlock more skills and it reflects being an RPG better than II does.
By II, he knows what he's doing so it's a lot more flashy and anime-like, playing far more like an action game than an RPG. If that's what you want, yeah try II.
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>>730569478
I don't think Roxas coming back was a good thing but I also think him spending the rest of his life trapped inside Sora while still self-aware was also hell and not a
>he made peace with it so that was his happy ending
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>>730534420
Which is funny to me, because I got Com (GBA) before I ever fully completed 1 (could only play it at a friend's house at the time), yet I still got the story. Mind you, this was 04, so I didn't even have YT to help.
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Got every achievement recently, only missing the PRO codes cause that seems like a drag.
But I did enjoy my time.
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>>730570403
>because I got Com (GBA) before I ever fully completed 1
Same except I had never even heard of KH and didn't play any of the Playstation titles until years later.
I was about as confused as Sora going through Castle Oblivion.
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>>730542350
>2? Fun romp with Jack.
>3? Lol was a bunch of crabs the whole time, also the vasty majority of the movie and it's events happened off screen
Eh....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVrW4OsLewo
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>>730570541
>I was about as confused as Sora going through Castle Oblivion.
I can feel ya, but when Marluxia talked about the cards being memories, I assumed it was all worlds that Sora went to in 1. So when I got to Twilight Town, a world I never heard my friends talk about, I was just as confused as Sora.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1RJmleeI3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZcb2TlY_ko
The pic of Roxas at the end (who I called Sora's brother at the time) surprised me.



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