It's a fact that Timmy has the most fun.
For reference
in my experience timmy types are most likely to not have fun and the most likely to bitch up a storm if they get shut out whereas tryhard spike will say gg go next and johnny will instantly try to lab countermeasures to whatever stopped him from running his gimmicki've seen it in card games, fighting games, fucking dark souls. they're the guy who says>I could play like that, but it's not FUNas they button mash against the ai in and ragequit the game when they get countered again and again
>>730539640>Spike and Vorthos>Both womenYea sure WOTC
>>730539816I'm more amazed none of them are black, like over 50% of the characters on the cards these days.
>>730539304If it's a Timmy-Griefer: Absolutely.
timmy spends his entire day posting on [insert x social media here] about how tryhard or toxic other players are
>>730539304turning dudes sideways to win is fun and all but losing 6 games in a row before finally seeing your stupid gimmick work a single time is way better
lol Timmies have two moods: smug faggot who got lucky nobody had a counter for his 10/10 beatstick or seething retard who will call you a tryhard for trying to interact with anything in the table.
>>730539816Spike is a they/them.
>>730539640i am technically a johnny player but i got started by primarily playing EDH so instead i did anything BUT combo, because combo was the boring and easy way to win
Constructed = netdecking = faggotryLimited is the real game.
>>730539640good cope, wotc
>>730539640>magical hackerdo they have a cyberpunk (the genre, not the IP) themed one yet?
>causes huge amount of seething when spoiled>proceeds to see zero play
>>730540348Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty
>>730539640why did it take so long to finally make a good champion card after Bob?
I just started playing on Arena and its fun but there is so much grindingI takes forever to get new packs unlike in Master Duel where you get a buncho of cardsIs there another way where i can play magic online?
>>730539640why are 2 of these gamers black boarder cards
>>730540548Almost as if every entrenched MtG player knew from the outset that a huge beatstick didn't matter without evasion or haste. It's a Timmy card that requires multiple pieces to win on the spot. Craterhoof Behemoth is a much better card and barely sees constructed play.
>>730541145they sell better because retards can run them in edh decks and the integrity of the mtg setting no longer matters at all
>>730539640Isn't Spike basically just an auto-win if it hits the field?I'm sure there's some sort of instant win combo you can do with that effect
>>730541145>>730541213Vorthos isn't legal in any format.Most Dangerous Gamer is legal in Commander and banned in all other formats.
>>730540548Id use him if I still played but I stopped after they did ravnica again
>>730541285It's a meme card, not actually legal in any format.
>>730540117No, the artist shared the brief, and was actually offended at the idea it was supposed to be androgynous kek
>>730541285anywhere that would allow you to play silver border would allow you to play blood bond and there are easier ways to tutor that than spike
Is Timmy the most likely to be overweight?
Whats better for a controll deck Dimir or Azorios?I switched over from ygo and these two look the most like a ygo deck where you have some omninegates and target destroy like in ygo and or or two big boss monsters How long would it take to build something like this in Arena most of the good cards are locked behind packs and the game is really stingy with how it gives them to you
>>730541168Swiftfoot Boots. It's as if people actively make the conscious decision to be retarded.
>>730541145because JOTC is ran by a bunch of retards and said "no see they have black borders but that doesn't mean they're legal. we're just getting rid of the silver border cause it's ugly ew, we replaced it with this acorn-shaped stamp at the bottom isn't that better? (btw some of them dont' have that they're actually legal.)"i'm pretty sure the vast majority of the legal ones were eventually banned everywhere outside of memelander anyway because people were just that fucking mad about the entire idea. but then they started selling universes beyond sets that are printed in standard so it's all a moot point anyway, fuck this game I hate it so much
>>730542663Hasbro can't shutdown WOTC soon enough.
>>730540548anybody that actually plays the game knew it was a silly meme card and wasn't actually going to be viable. as much as I hate UBslop I do have to praise this card for being an easy identifier of how retarded anybody is when they try to talk about the game
>>730542625>7 mana? ha how about TEN mana instead? checkmate, atheists
>>730542228That's definitely Spike
>>730539640>Woman>Tournament grinderI would at least believe it if it was a troon
>>730542740It's green. There's a billion different ways to have extra mana in a green deck. I've had an 8 mana creature out by turn 4 in my Helga deck with mana to spare.
>>730542729unfortunately the rest of hasbro is even more fucking incompetent and WOTC is actually their only money printer at the moment.Trust me as someone that is also a frequent poster on /toy/ my sheer hatred of Hasbro manages to make the feelings I used to hold for companies like NISA or Gearbox look like minor grievances by comparison.
>>730542847>blocks it with a 1/1 tokenMy turn now?
>>730542247I haven’t played MTG in ages but Arorius control was like the pinnacle of ‘no fun allowed’ when I last was on the scene.I personally enjoy Grixxis though for that extra bit of ‘fuck you’ in more creative ways.
>>730540117Spike is whatever gender offers them an advantage at any given time
>>730542975Genderling.
>>730542859Gimmie some hasbro stories, I wanna see how incompetent they can be.
>>730540548Problem is timmies don't know how to use it, so instead of getting evasion and protection for it, they just kept doing voltron with it and getting stomped.
>>730540548Because in magic you can blockThats why all creature decks either make a trillion tokens or have trample
>>730542228probably spike desu. spikes are the type to go overdo everything and they are bad at restraining themselves. in hunter gatherer times they would be the first to charge in, 1v1 a boar and then eat the whole thing, but in real life they just eat mcdonald, sperg out in mtg and get fat
>>730542859>make the feelings I used to hold for companies like NISA or Gearbox look like minor grievances by comparison.I get it.
>>730542903It's so hard to put trample in. Or a counterspell to protect it.
>>730542247Azorius is better for a reactive deck that holds their mana up for counterspells or boardwipes until the other guy is out of gas and then dropping a game ending finisherDimir is more proactive and lends itself to putting down an early/midgame threat and then using removal and countermagic to keep the way clear for you to kill them with it.
>>730543164>just keep dumping more mana into making this dogshit card work bro trust mewhy don't you just play emrakul like a normal person at that point
>>730542729if hasbro shuts down wotc it instantly goes under
>>730541168Craterhoof famously needs no setup, true.
>>730542729>>730542859its uncanny how traditional game companies like games workshop and wotc manage to be so out of touch and retarded on such an audacious level
>>730542729Hasbro is at least half the reason why WotC is making those retarded decision because they are mandated to double profits year by year.
>>730543309All the more reason it should happen.
does anyone play regular magic anyomre?Whenever is see people talk about the game or discuss some cards they only talk about edh and how it would work in some obscure fanformatI never hear anything about standard
>>730544086plenty of people play standard on arena
>>730540857Bro, Snapcaster Mage?
>>730539304Can Timmy put half a BFM into play?
>>730544630So how do you play or target the left half? Do you pay the cost once for each, or do you just need both in hand and the cost is for both?
I tap my Spongebob, Burger hero for 2 green mana which lets me summon Hotdog Pigeon which lets me search for the Planet Namek land which causes a landfall on my Tung Tung Tung Sahur token
>>730544630He puts a card into play, not two.
>>730544738you just need both in hand and you pay the cost on the right and drop both cards on the table
>>730539640Sex with Spike
>>730540548Looks like it would be more useful to combo with something like Swords to Plowshares than actually try to use it for damage.Trample would be the obvious way to win with it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jLrrAfGaUo
>>730545445just print the reserve list already fucks
>>730543323It's not that craterhoof needs no setup. It requires other creatures to be an OHKO, but those creatures are typically mana dorks or low cost creatures that have been played previously that don't necessitate immediate premium removal spells. Craterhoof's ETB trigger doesn't go away upon removal either, so all those mana dorks that get +X/+X AND trample are still around. Compare this to the retard trying to put multiple pieces of protection onto a 1/7 that dies to removal without impacting the board immediately.
>>730539640Spike even has tranny hair
>>730545445how long will this be a real problem?The UB sets seem to flop and everntually they are gonna lose the license so they are gonna be forced to reskin the cards like they did for Arena
>>730545661as someone that runs a single craterhoof in historic Elves I really don't think he's comparable to cactuar at all. he's more of a finishing spell that just happens to come in the form of a body rather than being his own stompy boy. hell half the time I don't even get around to playing it before I've got enough of a board built up to win anyway
>>730545924>The UB sets seem to flopwith the exception of spiderman UB sets are some of the best selling.>they are gonna lose the license so they are gonna be forced to reskin the cards like they did for Arenadepends, if they ever want to reprint card they will probably just do reskins of individual ones or just really popular ones
>>730545924>The UB sets seem to floplotr, final fantasy, and ATLA all sold like crackso did the UB commander decksSpiderman set just flopped because there's only like two good cards in it
>confuses and enrages the ESL
>>730539816spike is a trannyvorthos is a Filipino with a wolf cut
>>730545924when they either become too unprofitable or can't find anything to useconsidering they were willing to make sets for assassin's creed and spiderman which both sucked ass I don't think they're giving up any time soon, but reception to in universe sets seems to improve each time so that might be part of the plan
>>730546748>Destroy two target nonblack creatures that share the same color. They can't regenerate.Try this instead.
>>730548107?nothing about this is confusing
>>730548107this is actually functionally different from what the card does. your wording would mean that it would destroy a UW and a U creature. however the card reads "either one is a color the other isn't". the UW creature is W but the U creature is not W. hence they wouldn't be destroyed
>>730539304>4 mana to summon anything, ignoring whatever other conditions it might have normallyI don't know MTG but is that not kinda busted combined with whatever other gimmick or high cost cards
>>730548886It's from a joke set that isn't legal
>>730548606it's a rare case where the original wording is easier to grok than the new wording
>>730540548I'm building the new Doran just for Cactuar.
>>730548886It's pretty mediocre. The best way to do something like that is to reanimate because it's far easier to fill your graveyard than it is your hand.
>>730549110I can see how parsing it is a little more difficult since it isn't entirely clear the discard and draw are one effect preventing the draw from getting replaced again.
>>730546748>>730548107for me it's animate dead>original card makes complete sense and is super easy to parse>...but also doesn't work within the actual rules of the game, so its errata'd version is a complete nightmare
>>730541145Unfinity mixed being being a Unset (Funny meme) with being Legal,, it also had an AWFUL Sticker Gimmick.Everyone suffered for it be they meme players, casuals or tryhards. Comet would been fine if it has just been an Un-Card.
just found out they finally brought foglio back to do cards sometime last year and of course it's a fucking secret lairwould it fucking kill this game to let people make good art for the base cards instead of the borderline slop we've been served for the last decade?
>>730550582Pay more for good art? Why of course you would, goyim
>>730550582you will eat the digital art slop and like it
>>730540548I have an elf deck that helps ramp this along with Trample instants. I can't get passed plat with it though
>>730548994>>730548886
>>730540548I put him in every green deck I play because he is really funny and you can usually find a way to sneak his damage onto someone, or have it hilariously blow up in your face.He won me 2-3 games in my pre-release event.
>start playing in 2022 because friends are interested in 40k commander decks>get interested in the history of the game and some of the "lore">first prerelease was brother's war>find out my locals has no standard, pioneer, modern, vintage, or legacy scene, only commander>friends only want to play commander, no other formats, no prereleases>phyrexia sets suck ass>hat sets suck ass>UB standard sets suck assI'm sorry to the veteran players
>>730550826that's not fair everyone knows urza's is broken as fuck in general
>>730551007>UB standard sets suck asseven the most veteran of veteran players admit that Avatar and Final Fantasy are great sets
>mention to guy operating a lgs that mtg cards feel like they are becoming outrageously priced for cardboard and its harder to play the hobby because of it.>his rebuttal was that tariffs and inflation are causing the wotc to charge moreIs this truthful or is he spewing bullshit?Im not an expert on economic or logistical chains, but i cant imagine the cards themselves became that much more to manufacture.I remember years ago a prerelease event was $20 per and now the cheapest in the area is $35 with most being $40-45.
>>730551675tarrifs hurt, but most of the price increases are a combination of the terrible profit margin on game stores selling product, and because wizards is the only profitable part of hasbro, so they need to increase their profit margins to keep the business afloat
>>730551675>Is this truthful or is he spewing bullshit?It's cardboard.
>>730551675a little of A a little of B.wotc card production is in china so tariffs do hit them, but they are also raising the price to cover licensing fees and as soon as the Tariffs drop the price sure as hell wont
>>730551346Kinda wish Wizards just sold alternate card arts of sets that actually fit into the lore instead. Like, that card is Elspeth and Mechagodzilla is Crystalline Giant. That's fine. But when they decide actually the Vocaloid universe is canonical and here's Jace, the Mind Sculptor in a magical duel with Kagamine Rin then it's not so fun anymore.
>>730551675Tariffs and inflation drive prices up for sure, but from the outside who knows how much is that and how much is companies ratcheting the price up because they can.Doesn't help that game shops are generally running on razor thin profit margins and simply can't afford to offer product at prices competitive with somewhere like Amazon.
>>730550826>>730551131
>>730552236i dont personally collect the cards but i do like all the art, the collabs i hate are spiderman, avatar retarded shit like that, i like the anime stuff though cant help it, speaking of vocaloid
>>730551675Maybe half-bullshit. Tabletop game manufacturers were definitely hit hard by tariffs and the shenanigans surrounding them (seriously, it's ridiculous that there were few exemptions for already produced goods), but this would be a case of Hasbro and WotC raising the price of MTG to cover the rest of their products suffering (as MTG itself is a product that's much more feasible to bring its production over to the states if need be), and it's certainly questionable how much this might actually be the case and how much of it is just using it as cover.
>>730552470if I see this card I immediately fold because I know they're just gonna play omniscience and then it's gonna be some yugioh-ass 10 minute solitaire combo until they win anyway
>>730552526>some yugioh-ass 10 minute solitaire combo until they win anywayI have an overwhelming hatred for Nexus of Fate.
>>730552513>avatar retarded shit like thatavatar is the only UB set they've done that actually feels like it fits within magic's setting even a little bit, outside of I guess LOTR.and as much as I hate to admit it FF did have some genuinely interesting card designs, like the saga creatures for example
>>730539304>>730539640Timmies and Johnnies are cool. Spikes can be okay. Fuck Vorthos. All my niggas hate Vorthos. All those nigger faggots want to do is regulate how to have fun.>hmmmm you're playing the game to play big cards/do combos/win?>not very reddit chungus of you
Have fun watching my 50+ triggers on the stack resolve. My win con is your gay ass pressing the resign button.>That's rough buddy
>>730552736I had a guy unironically lecture me about how flavorful and thematic all his decks were before tutoring for the other half of the combo with his commander.
>>730552526reminds me of the guy who forgot to include his win condition in his side board but played far into the tournament anyways because everyone scooped as soon as they saw the burning wish
>>730552836Thats rough buddy
>>730539640Actually anybody that makes Johnnies and collectors seethe is having the most fun
>>730552689FF fits more than avatar imo
>>730552857In a tournament? Ain't no way. Everyone is far too autistic to actually resign before the game is over. Because, you know, what if they draw 13 lands in a row. Definitely worth wasting 10 minutes to see.
>>730551273I didn't know Furby got a secret lair, so when this hit the table I thought my friend had the worst taste in proxies.
>>730539304Don’t you play cards from your hand onto the battlefield anyway
warp world is my timmy cardlove summoning a bunch of eldrazi niggers with it
>>730553042time rules puts pressure on people to quickly scoop and go to nextnobody wants to lose a match to time
>>730552883Just you fucking wait until I have my blink and evasion set up to blow up your whole fucking deck with Umbris and Niggerthrod. Then who's going to be seething? HAH
>>730553106What if you played a good card that got your eldrazi out instead?
Timmies only have fun when people allow them to have fun
>>730556739Maybe you shouldn't bring your tournament deck to our friends' casual Sunday meetup.
>>730552736personally I'm a melvin
>make spike a womanthey literally can't help themselves, can they?
>>730552736where does the word vorthos even come from?
>>730542750Has there ever been a MTG tournament with a woman in it? Not even a winner, just had a woman, singular, to join the event as a participant.
>>730545924>>730546547Rosewater actually said that spiderman wasnt even the worst selling set of the year. I think it was aetherdrift. So no UB sets do not flop. I hate this gay earth.
>>730540548>does literally everything>nobody talks about him because of all the other problem children from FFI love this clown
>>730560010MTG tournies can have low thousands of entrants. So yes unquestionably there have been grils. Now have any made top 16 ever? Im not sure but there are alot of tournies so I wouldnt be shocked if it happens once in a blue moon. I go to prereleases at my LGS and there are 2-3 girls that go. Of course all 3 are with boyfriends so you know.
>>730544630No, he needs both to summon it onto the field.Reading both cards explains both cards.
>>730560269what if I use his ability twice to put two cards into play
>>730539640I am a monster geek.
>>730560252Given that CCGs, or TCGs I forget which Magic is, is a heavily nerdy hobby the amount of women in any given space would be well below 10%. 5% more likely, and if there was a "pro" MTG player, it'd end up like a Starcraft 2 Scarlett situation. Where the best woman was actually a man the whole time.
>>730560010>>730560252The usual woman players (actual, biological women) from my experience are bought there by their BF, usually during pre-release event. You're more likely to find an mtf troon playing magic than actual women playing card games
>>730561426To be fair pre release is fun and the only IRL play I do. Its just so fun. I also win like every game since I actually know how to play the game.
>>730539304>TimmyOnly has fun against other Timmys and some Johnnys. Encountering a Spike will make any Timmy bitter, angry, or sad, to the point of either becoming a Johnny/Spike or quitting in general. Timmys never last long unless they get in good with a Johnny group.>JohnnyHas fun against other Johnnys, some of the smarter Timmys, and some of the less cancerous Spikes. Will typically congregate amongst themselves with group comps that are majority Johnny with some Timmys.>SpikeThey generally don't care about fun outside of winning. The ones who do have fun do so at the expense of Timmys and Johnnys. Will sometimes become Johnnys themselves if a game's meta truly grows stale or boring, seeking our Johnny groups to ease into more casual play.Digital TCGs have, of course, destroyed Timmys and Johnnys across the hobby, which in turn has adversely affected tabletop play as well as games often try to emulate DTCGs chasing after success that the cardboard medium can't easily deliver. At this point Timmys are a dying breed.
>>730553042>>730552857you're thinking about the mike long story, which apparently didn't happen that wayhttps://articles.starcitygames.com/articles/flow-of-ideas-magic-mythbusters-mike-long-mythic-rares-mulligans-and-more/
>>730559484Honestly I don't even get the point. Women aren't interested in playing a 30-year old card game dominated by nerdy adult men. They do shit like picrel, which to me is intended for the female gaze and they de-sexualize female characters every chance they get.
>>730545128Poison counters are an extremely old mechanic. >I'm going to pay 2 to play this morph creatureMorph costs 3.
>>730561426Yeah...I know, I had a guy who's wife played 40k regularly with us. Played Orks and routinely called them her rambunctious boys, which is coincidentally what she called her sons. Nice lady, all things considered.
>>730540724nicethanks
>>730562003no, that's not the story I'm talking about. That's not even that close to what I described.The one I'm talking about was a combo where you burning wish for tendrils
>>730551007>>find out my locals has no standard, pioneer, modern, vintage, or legacy scene, only commanderMagic's been dead for like twenty years thanks to MemeMander, anon... Not sure why you expected different.
>>730551675Partly. Chinese printers (literally) import fee/tariffs, but also it's not harder to play the hobby because you can literally get a laser printer and print off cards to put in front of $.50 bulk commons from your local store and just play that way at home.
>>730562005maybe the gay nerds are into this kind of shit?they can try cosplaying it
For me it's Tark's Flowstolork
>>730563380But what does it do?
>>730560352state based actions kills itoracle text would errata the second sentence to 'if only one card of B.F.M. is in play, sacrifice it.' or something like that if it were actually something played outside of unsets.
>>730562005actually, funnily enough, i saw a pod of two good-looking twenty-something couples playing a few weeks ago. they actually sounded pretty engaged, too. it was a little eerie.
>>730563598It draws two cards
>>730562005Overtly jewish director cannot help himself and thinks sexism is a debt game to repay.
>>730564091And unlike YGO this doesn't break the game?
Less fag elves; more dinosaurs
>>730539304Timmy feels special casting a 4 cost creature to "cheat out" a 5 cost creature for 4, meaning they overpaid by 8 for a chance to put it out at instant speed for a combat trick/pseudo haste next turn by putting it out at the end of the previous player's turn.
>>730550826my thought exactly
>>730564316megasaurass or lickalottapus?
I liked Elf decks before Lorwyn.
>>730539304>>730539640>powergamerIsn't Timmy meant to be the exact opposite of a WAACfag?
>>730565557By power gamer they meant powerful creatures, spells, or effects. The most impact with the minimal amount of really cool cards.
>>730560153wow another generic copy ability card, now in the form of a cheap non-lightning boltable blue card!
>>730564140>>730564316more like overtly retarded, I'm still jerking just as much, only that it's over hunky men abs and extremely fuckable dinosaurs instead of half naked chicks.also the art quality plummeted, i'm pretty sure that this social bullshit is an excuse to hire banana priced artists. this matches up to hasbro getting killer profit out of brand worship: the gathering
I'm still mad they keep printing "people" jund legendaries. I want big stompy and decks with big stompy. Naya is gay and Temur is fun but also gay.
>>730565557The difference is that Timmy and Johnny have some overlap in that they've got this cool card/combo and want to see it go off. Spike is the WAACfag that just takes whatever will lead to the highest chance of a win during the current ruleset of the game. Old 40k this would be the person who shows up with Taudar all in grey, unpainted models or Necron flying circus or Tau double (sometimes triple) Riptide Farsight crisis suit spam. It's very effective, but it's not going to make a lot of friends if you just play casually every weekend.
>>730539640where's melvin
>>730565682>>730565820I see, guess the one space after 'power' makes the distinction in Timmy's case then.
>>730566089It should also be noted that by Rosewater's article, Power Game is a Timmy Subtype, probably the most stereotypical one.>One of the stereotypes of Timmy is that he (or she; for the rest of this column just add “or she” whenever you see “he”) loves playing big creatures and big spells as he smashes his way to victory (my last column on Timmy really reinforced this image). This isn't true for all Timmies, but it is true for this group. The Power Gamer equates power with fun. He enjoys the vicarious thrill of dominating the game. For Power Gamer Timmy, Magic is about seeing how much he can do. How big a creature can he play? How much damage can he do in a single turn? How much can he win by?When I first got into 40k, I got a Necron army for the fantasy of the relentless march of soulless reviving automatons automatons supported by giant laser pyramids. Necrons getting turned into Tomb Kings in Space made me want to play them less, even if the concept is still possible. I figure that's a Timmy behavior, or maybe a Vorthos Timmy?
>>730566537Vorthos-Timmy works for that mental image of Necrons probably, yeah. I figure a true blue Timmy stereotype would especially love playing Custodes, Knights, or a monster army of some kind. Maybe Fury of the Ancients in 30k if Contemptor Dreadnought spam wasn't complete bullshit.
>>730539304>dies to removal
>>730566890Would love to play a Goge Vandire Orzhov Deck.
>>730566926Tryhard
>>730540857>you somehow don't need to say "enter the battlefield" anymore>but you must still say "discard a card" and "creature card"
>>730546683nobody cares about card effect for collab garbage. the cards dies in sleeves on ebay
>>730541145border colors can be seen when viewed from the side, i.e. silver bordered cards are notably lighter colored than black border cards when looking at the profile of a deck. this caused particular issues in draft and sealed format where you open silver-bordered cards from packs and make decks using those cards and generic basic lands, which still have regular black borders. tournaments at every sanctioned level were required to sleeve sealed and draft decks in opaque sleeves because otherwise it was trivial for people to see the order of lands vs cards out of a pack in both players decks. due to this, about ten years back wizards decided to make all cards uniformly black bordered.
>>730539640Every Timmy thinks he's a Spike.
>>730540548I only ever see success if I combo it with Ardyn.
>>730570628Its more that half of the people who everyone thinks are spikes are actually timmies. LSV has a pet card and forces it as hard as he can in every deck, people just think its 'spike' because his pet card is blue instant draw 2 and not a 7 mana 9/9.
>>730571089>>730570628Everyone likes winning. Timmy isn't inherently a retard that is incapable of outplaying his friendgroup or making a good deck and Spike isn't inherently good at the game despite netdecking.
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>>730571342i don't care about winning, i literally just want whatever my deck was built to do to succeed. i have won in my friend group 1 time, and it didn't feel good
>>730542859i thought Hasbro was doing fine All i really care about from them are Transformers figures and they are top notch lately with plenty of old figures that never had a got figure getting oneAre they really struggling?
