Is removing the piss filter considered messing whit the artistic vision of the developer.Do you approve?
>artistic visionKYS, farthuffer
top doesnt look good, but it looks better than bottom
It is messing with the artistic vision, but having artistic vision doesn't always mean it's good. It's the reason people are tired of every flashback being sepia, every scene in mexico being orange, every WW1 being grey, every medieval or viking movie or show being blue, etc.Sometimes artistic vision can be "ugly" but fit the setting, like Fallout 3 without the ugly green filter wouldn't look radioactive and scary.
>>730541320How about this example.Left is original right is re-shade.For we reason the creator of the game decided it needs to have this blur fog.
>>730540930bottom one looks like a cheap MMO
>>730540930It is messing with their vision, but I don't care. Reshade goes on every game so I can remove any kind of blur or fog and make the colours less dried out while lowering the lighting.
>>730541630i like the left oneif you don't, check your monitor settings lol, you can push contrast and decrease brightness to make it look like the one on the right but it doesn't work the other way around
>>730541630>the game decided it needs to have this blur fog.If it's a new game then it's not artistic direction, every single Unrela engine 5 has the screen look blurred and browned, like they spread dirt over it.
>>730540930>messing whit the artistic vision of the developerYou're one of those idiots who actually respect the "serving suggestion" image you see on food packaging. You can use the product you bought in any way you like, you don't need someone to hold your hand or wipe your ass, you're an adult, allegedly.
What about removing the forced co-op? Co-op does go against the artistic vision of RE so technically it would be fixing the game to remove it no?
>>730541857You are missing the point you cant push the monitor because its a built in blur fog filter in the game.I have digital vibrancy set to max in NVIDIA control panel and it still looks blurry and less colorful.This one is also the lest intrusive fix. You can make the colors and lighting so bright it looks like a deferment engine.But even i think pick related is to extreme.
>>730540930It ruins the cave episode. Playing without piss filter is bright enough to not messing with a lantern
>>730541320>ebola infected wastelandvs>fortnitedon't talk about things you don't understand, kid
>>730542068I played the game on hard and the COOP bot was decently helpful. Especially if you have it use rifles and smgs.
>>730542127>screenshot not even 1080p>talks about "blur"anon I...
>>730540930Top is way better and more soulful.It's supposed to look like this super fucking grimy and sketchy diseased and dirty shithole.
>>730542378>supposed to look like this super fucking grimy and sketchy diseased and dirty shithole.I mean if they were going for realistic, then the fantasy green filter is not the way to go.
>>730540930Most of them were just brown and bloom to look mature and it looked like shit.The only game where the piss filter made sense was Deus Ex Human Revolution and sadly they completely removed it in re-releases. The piss filter wasn't on until after you got augmented if I'm not mistaken>>730542127>>730541630>>730541945Might be intended to look like thator maybe notMaybe it's just cheaper this way.I also think everything looks blurrier so games won't look that much different when running DLSS
>>730540930>artistic vision of the developerfirst thing after I install a game is to disable motion blur, depth of field, and bloombut piss filter? lol whymaybe find a game closer to YOUR "artistic vision" than being a little bitch
>>730542378You do realize almost evry game from this era used the piss filter for some reason.
bottom version's contrast is all fucked up, shadows are way too light and blown out.
>>730543156Maybe but is it worse than literal piss colored glass on the camera lens.
>>730540930Removing the piss filter is a good step but they need to stop adding the other filters afterwards that makes it looks even worse.
>>730543342big issue for emulating stuff like BotW (remove fog but let's not stop there, let's fuck up all colors and/or contrast!)
>>730540930Yes.But I will not accept this excuse for cinematic gas
>>730540930Looks awful. It's a goddamn joke that people are playing historical revisionism about the piss filter today compared to everyones feelings about it back at the time. Just like brown and bloom being mocked. /v/ is an entirely different board today.
>>730540930It ruins RE5 for sure. Look at gameplay with the filter off, it looks goofy and cartoony.
Sheva is so fucking hotAbsolute non-character though
>>730540930Top has sovl, bottom doesnt
>>730540930No, unless you believe the same dev was responsible for all piss filter games of that era
>>730543068Not really.
>>7305409305 has a good piss filter and it changes it regularly depending on the environment and time of day.Removing it is just a flex, it doesn't make it look better. The visual artists have it right on this one.
Artistic vision only matters if it produces a good result. Piss filters *never* produce a good result, so Reshade is often necessary to counteract shitty overzealous volumetric fog or uniform colour filters.
>>730540930bottom one is incorrect because they oversaturated the colors (blue, red) to punch through the filter... so when you remove the filter you are left with clown colors
>>730540930Bro I literally play RE5 with the film grain filter. You niggers aren't even on my level.
Retard solution: https://sfx.thelazy.net/games/screenshot/54691/full/Decent solution: https://sfx.thelazy.net/games/screenshot/35574/full/Default is still best.
>>730540930soul vs soulless
Visual vomit era.
>>730540930No, if future re-releases of RE5 had the piss removed I would not approve. Its a nice option for PC players, but I would not enforce it.
Yep.... those were the days.
Only shitters dislike the glorious piss filter.
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I'd say it depends on the game, some games just look worse without it.
>>730540930The 360 era of games was widely mocked for using too many brown filters and visual bloom effects. So anything that changes that aspect of a game is positive.
>>730540930It's colorful enough for me already, especially in 2x native 7th gen resolution.
Take me down to the Brown and Bloom cityWhere the grass is piss and the games are shittyOH WON'T YOU PLEASE TAKE ME HOOOOOME
>>730540930Bottom looks boring
>>730545226Far superior to rainbow faggotry of the 2020s
>>730545313I wonder what % of people defending Piss filters and washed out colors are console users.
>first playthroughHow the devs intended, unless there are mods to fix technical issues>second playthroughDo whatever you want
>>730540930I'd agree if their "artistic vision" wasn't just copying the shit of the time.
>>730545489based and "9 inch b&w surveillance camera monitor from the early 1990s" pilled
>>730541630>>730542127If you gave a shit about artistic vision in Nier, you'd be playing the original Cavia-developed version(s) of the game on PS3/X360 in Japanese.
>>730540930>piss filter was rampant througout 00'sR Kelly was too influential
>>730545908I already did when it came out on my moded 360 and ps3.Although the 360 papa nier version first and then the English patched japanise one later.
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>>730541320I know /v/ has a certain pull for socially inept teenagers but consider that you can’t dedicate your life to video games while also calling them senseless products devoid of meaning or you look like a fucking idiot.
>>730540930It is. The piss filter is meant to make the environments feel more sickly and dirty, which makes sense for a series about bio weapons. Play it as intended.
>>730540930RE5 doesn’t even have a piss filter for a good chunk of the game.
>>730543068At least TBOGT removes it.
>all the codkiddies grow up and now post on /v/ and defend their shitty brown and bloom eraNo wonder /v/ sucks>b-but modern games are ugly too!So what? it doesn't magically make the ugly ass piss-filter era look good.
So would be using a pen to physically edit a novel, yet no one on Earth would give a shit if I did so long as it was my own copy
>>730541630>For we reason the creator of the game decided it needs to have this blur fog.because it's a shitty demake made to cash in the secondaries that played automata, so they made it look similar
>>730540930yesthey were heavily influenced by black hawk down
>>730541979Turkey sandwiches are actually pretty baller tho.
>>730549810>Kodak Vision Premier Color 2393 shot in Super 35, with a light touch in post-processingthey could have tried a bit harder though, you literally have the transfer curves on the tech sheet
>>730549810I'm pretty sure black hawk down had a greenfielter.
>>730543068it was black hawk down and district 9 era
>>730549810I can tell
>>730550296only in the shadowsalso had something akin to a bleach bypass (copy a contrast bumped B&W copy over the original) going on
>>730542127Looks like dogshit. This game is depressing and deals with allusions about the mist a lot.
Depends on the game and setting. It fits Deus EX HR well with the wet night time scenes.
>>730550873based and moist-pilled
god i should have picked up re5 during the christmas sale to shoot and punch blacks as barry burton again
>>730550374Just looks like COD.
>>730551127i dunno if it's a tongue-in-cheek allusion to OP's "fog" but the picture on the left is cheating with the moody fog and overcast skythat being said yeah getting rid of sodium lights (and that very kino red sky when cloud cover was low) is sad and unfunny
>>730551410And extremely stupid when the LED lights could easily be tuned to emit more sodium like color. Not like you would notice either one now with the fucking bright laser lights every new car has.
>>730543495I still remember the first time I saw it typed as "brownanbloom" genre and it still makes me smile. He was criticizing that game wet I think.
>>730544274Shame we never had a comic strip for piss filter looking terrible but this was half of the equation at the same time.
>>730540930Yes it does. However, early footage of the game didn't have this piss filter, and that's what I personally wanted to see. In a way, the bottom pic restore the old artistic vision (and why the mod ever existed in the first place)
Gta sa on ps2 mogs the pc release>Pictured: pc release with mods
>>730552594ps2 cannot into trees
>>730551781Someones half life 2 sweetfx preset/mod or whatever really displays how terribly ugly this shit looks. It's perfect at displaying the true atrocities committed upon art directions in 2010. I'm not sure if it was supposed to mean realism but perhaps some developers thought it looked like film.
>>730542725no, faggot, it looked fucking incredible in hindsight , giving it's era an own and unique identity >and sadly they completely removed it in re-releases.did they ? well it's because of faggots like youHRP itt be like yoo this screenshot is faya, so many le heckin colorisons and effectoons stop taking hormones and let things run their course under your celling at last
PISS FILTER BEATS WHATEVER AESTHETIC YOU WORTHLESS FAGGOTS AND TROONS ARE ON TO hang off your celling
>>730540930Top makes Africa look like a disgusting shithole. Why the fuck would you make it colorful.
>>730553831>it looked fucking incredible in hindsight , giving it's era an own and unique identityNo, it looked like fucking shit >colors badok, retard
>>730554204yes you want color go color a coloring book you colored faggot
>>730553831>no, faggot, it looked fucking incredible in hindsightNo, it really didn't. You don't know anything about style and identity. Pic rel is probably your idea of an identity. NTA
>>730554715Battlefield 3 was an incredible game with a great art-direction and global illumination. Yes it was. And it looks better than everything that has come out even to this day but of course you will say you prefer new dogshit so long as it's in 16k ray traced
and now I am actually interested what will you reply with puking oversaturated colors on the screen is not a valid art-direction. Carefully crafted visuals that fit in with the setting are. BF3 moggs whatever dogshit you will counter with. And it's really unfortunate, 16 years and the industry isn't even a fraction of what it was.
>>730554204>I love Aivazovsky but colour was apparently tabooYou act like someone who didn't play these games at all. Many of them had different kind of palettes like >>730544935. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas had many moods for different places on its map which were pretty colorful, just compare the desert at night, LS at evening and the daytime SF. It's similar story for Grand Theft Auto IV, Metal Gear Solid 3 and et cetera.
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>>730554931I'm more so mocking the technique used rather than Dice's own actual technical prowess. I think most of the stuff they've made on Frostbyte looks good. The last being BF1 in regards to something that pushed the bar in graphics and Star Wars Battlefront 2 still looks legitimately impressive. This had nothing to do with raytracing either. This bloom tinting shit is not unique and it's certainly not identity or art style.
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>>730540930gimme some games with some blue filters, preferably on PCfucking love me blue filters
"you must embrace this haha, so glad developers learned TRUE style"
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>>730555406alright then why don't you enlighten meI'm a graphics programmer set to graduate soonsrs
>>730541630The game has a grey-ish filter due to the ash from the final boss of drakengard and the salt things they killed before the game
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>>730542378>brown and bloom era>soulful18+ website.
>>730555540>i'm a graphics programmerAnd you're flabbergasted over what is seen in that image? you can call yourself a programmer but you're not making any convincing arguments to tell me what was seen in those steps is somehow amazing. It's not. Anyone could mock that up in a sweetfx or reshade profile if they wanted.
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>>730554053You know a good game can have bad graphics rightyou don't have to defend every aspect of brown and bloom piss filter shooters just because you grew up with them and find the next gen worse.
>>730554126Because it looks retarded. There are plenty of ways to make something look dingy and disgusting without using a retarded filter.
>>730540930Yes. At least play the game a couple of times without messing with it first.
>>730555697do you realize than a set of screenshots from the alpha stage do not translate to the exact state the game is experienced while being played in real time ?yes, some simple techniques are used here and there, as is with everything in life, that doesn't invalidate the entirety of the process what a fag you ended up being, you have no point at all.
>modern games are bad therefore the shit games i grew up are goodno, you faggot millennials, it was a different kind of bad.
>>730555938t. nu-marvel enthusiast
>>730555986yeah like putting textures of your face there
>>730556157Why even post Mirrors Edge when it does not suffer from the common terrible effects of 7th gen that some of us are complaining about in this thread? that was one game that didn't drown all of its color out with BROWN AN BLOOM and piss filter messes. I will even willingly admit that i liked games that fell into the poor visual trappings of this era and i can't exactly say that i liked all of it. Despite thinking the games looked good in numerous other areas.
>>730556351see>>730556175
>>730541320>farthufferWell, as true as that may be, video games are art.
the top one just feels like a hot dusty climate, which is should be
>>730544101My suicide meter is at 100%, good bye anons...
>>730543068I am GLAD this era is over, God I fucking hated the 08 to 17-ish era of home console/pc gaming
>>730551127>not purple uv light to change your behaviour and identify covid cyborgs
>>730557484Enjoy your new blurry temporal slop at 540p
>>730557069because mirror's edge used some simple techniques that you shunned didn't read further
>>730540930>top: ps3 game>bottom: Ps4 gameEven back then I could tell the filters were making graphics look worse
>>730556175le bad le geam no you dumb faggot, we grew up with genre defying classics releasing every two weeks you are the odd one out, with a cat in a hat in your handshe is trying to make points and shit lmao
>>730558075>genre defying classicsCall of battlefield and changing RE to be friendslop are "genre-defying"?>b-but what aboutis the game you're about to mention brown and bloom? No? Then why the fuck do you think it deserves mention in this thread?>you are the odd one out,I grew up with every new console generation bringing entire new types of games. It was the millenial gen when games started stagnating.Oh wait, you think I'm defending zoomer games? You're a retard with shit reading comprehension if you think so.
>>730541979those aren't the "intended" way to eat the food, they're just there to trick you into thinking it isn't as unhealthy as it actually is
>third world shithole :|>third world shithole brown an bloom:)
>>730540930Removing the filter makes it look less diseased. Not a good thing.
>>730543545she is literally the reason I exclusively only date black women
>>730541857I have an oled and the constrast is wrong on both but left is more greyshit than the other. On LCD it would look even worse
>>730541445Removing the filter makes it look like a next gen upgrade.
laughing my ass off at that 'graphics programmer' in the thread that said games looked unique back at this time. The only scary part is that people like him want to shit up the industry again i suppose.
>>730540930i think lessening the color grading a bit would look nice, something in between the two
>>730540930No, because when the concept art was made, and the assets were made, they weren't made with a piss filter
>>730541979You play a game to experience what someone else wanted to create, not to get exactly what you wanted.
Found the video accompanying this one>>730553297https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d-75FB6nWw>>730561646There's no middle ground on this gen. You're either all chips on the table or you're out.
>>730540930Definitely is, the unfiltered colours were not the intended ones.
>>730540930Developer intent is meaningless, always.
>>730563094In some sense it actually was meaningless because of the poor image quality and muddy colors back then. I don't believe the developer ever wasn't making concessions for weak consoles that couldn't handle much.
>>730563808I don't care what the developer had in mind. If I want to play it that way, I will.
>>730541605>people are tiredare they?kek, people don't know shit about their own taste
>>730540930Yes. Piss filter is important in indicating that it was made in the PS3 era
>>730541630Removing the fog of soullessness is always the right call
>>730540930the one on the bottom actually looks like some random place in africa, much more immersive.
>>730551127Those are the old sodium vapor lights which had efficient power to lumens but terrible color index since they're best at certain wavelengths. Right pic is when municipals started replacing them with LEDs with proper color rating index
The funny thing is even back then some devs knew that the fog and piss filter looks ugly but somehow for the others it took 10+ years to also get the memo
>>730540930You are alreasy accostumed to it, so when you remove the filter, it doesn't end up feeling the same anymore.
Lol at the generic contrarians coming out of the woodwork to defend the piss filter.
I've played the games unmodded, I may as well mod them afterwards. I just wish my computer was better for handling shit like RE Engine pathtracing.
>>730564992I don't remember the name but it was distinctly the words of a quoted executive suit instead of someone doing the actual development who was baffled people hared brown and grey because it is supposed to be more realistic.
>>730555556It's been like a little more than 1,460 years since that happened by the time Nier: Replicant starts for real (if we're not including the 5 minute prologue where it still is a thing to the point that it's "snowing" in the summer). That ash would've cleared up by then, even if it's magical or whatever.
>>730564347I just want a mod for that game that gives me tank controls. It's a right pain to have fixed camera angels but no tank controls.
>>730544512you can tell this was made by someone who ALSO tried to insert their fetish and got called out
>>730543068Mgs 4 fucking sucks and I’m sick of people pretending it’s a good game.
>>730568345No, that's just the general age group on /v/ now. The ones nostalgic about COD4, MW3 and Black Ops 2 or whatever the fuck it was that they played on their x360s. They like grey/brown/tinted bloom and piss games even though it all looked exactly the same and no game was spared that generation. I think the only exception i have for anything was STALKER. Less egregious didn't suffer from a lot of the issues. But there were games that i liked that absolutely got hit: The Darkness. Starbreeze game But even I'll admit that it's slightly ugly because of it.Nostalgia being a drug can be a curse sometimes. Whilst 6th gen was not always flawless and sometimes had issues with over reliance on bloom. 7th gen was a death sentence to color and that's why it's the worst sin of them all. Because not even 6th gen had those problems.
>>730568345And they call anyone who doesn't like that shit zoomers. It's like video games weren't a thing before 2006 in their heads.
>>730540930Top looks better because of the contrasts.
>>730549797hello tourist
>>730545908>playing the shittiest version made for mutts
Re5 is probably the only time its not bad brcause it makes the whole game feel sickly and gross and that's what residrnt evil in africa should feel like
>>730555659underages hate brown and bloom era though troony
>>730564450>noo not the heckin full spectrum color index!It sucks, streets look better bathed in orange gold light
>>730543068MGS4 fucking rocks and I'm sick of people pretending its a bad game
>>730571274>realisticI bet they meant cinematic as that was the style in many films at the time.
zoomers having nostalgia for gears of war
>>730558075don't bother its a jeet trying to derail the thread
>1-2 jeet millenials having a melty
>>730543495I've never felt more out of place on this board than seeing retards on here get nostalgic for this crap or that entire dogshit generation.
It's weird we don't have an AVGN equivalent for games in this era. Someone against the piles of shovelware, cowadoody babbies, blown and broom shitware, games getting parts chopped into DLC, muh space muhhrines, more shovelware, wagglan, movie games. People act like AAA used to be amazing or something before anita sarkeesian showed up and fucked everything.
>>730540930It definitely impacts the atmosphere. Top looks like the sun is scorching and gives a vague sickly feel. Bottom looks like tourism photos (if someone had a reason to go to fucking Africa)
>>730575359>>730575545stop samefagging this thread pablo
>>730575545It's not really retro enough to be different and misses important factors of entertainment, especially for an angry persona, in that the shitty games of the generation are incredibly easy to the point of being stifling and very generic. A big part of why AVGN worked was that a lot of the games were genuinely bullshit and challenging so he could just show gameplay to make the character function. You can't do that when the gameplay is just boring instead of CBT.
>>730576079On second thought you're right, we're talking about 5 hour long campaigns, tutorials up the ass, even "friendly reminders that you should take a rest". I think it was because of this "casualization" that some people forced themselves to love the bullshit difficulty from older games. It's no wonder when Demon's Souls came out, every single one of these so called hardcore gaymers cock sucked it.
>>730540930>Fixed!
>>730540930I wouldn't remove it. I always liked the piss filter in RE5, adds to the atmosphere >>730541630now this type of stuff I am okay with removing
now just call it a remake and charge 70$
>>730572036MGS4 is such an unbelievably ugly looking piece of shit of a game it's unreal
MGS4 wasn't the only 'visual feast' awaiting ps3 owners. They had it pretty rough on the exclusives in general. Looks like absolute shit.
>>730543068>you do realize almost evry game from this eraPosts the same 5 games, all of them with dreary/apocalyptic settingsGTA4 doesn't have a yellow filter btw. I hate that NPC's are still posting this shitty collage with an insanely crunched image of GTA4. That's not what the game looks like
>>730540930>Sovl>sovlless
>>730541630We call it the anti soul fog, common in nintendo games since n64
>>730541630left is anti soul gas and should be removed
>>730576665That game is such wasted potential.
>>730554204Hey retard, someone already posted this earlier >>730543068I swear ''muh brown filter'' whiners just saw one of these shitty images a decade ago and decided to base their entire personality around it, and now they just mindlessly repost them and repeat the same phrases over and over like fucking drones
Piss tinted glasses is real.This problem is not exaggerated.
>>730564347A lot more was done than just "removing the fog" here.
>Americans and Zoomers think the Left looks worse than the right
>>730542268Agree Fortnite is better than RE5.
>>730577563>when the sun is only 80 nits at high noon
>indians came out of the woodwork to seethe at non-UE gameskek
>>730577490Nah it was never an issue. That's why you're stuck spamming the same image of RE5, MGS4, GoW over and over, and then a bunch of games no one's ever heard of
>>730540930Piss filter=sovlIf you think otherwise then you're a cock sucking faggot :)
>>730577960If you can't name then that only indicates you weren't playing enough games to notice anything.
>>730540930It does mess up the visuals, but if you prefer it that way, who am I to judge.
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>>7305409301. What the devs envisioned isn't always what actually ends up being the final product.2. It's a fucking video game people mod the shit out of them to improve them all the time.If you think it looks better without the piss filter then go ahead
>>730578382>Resistance 3Wow this one's only been posted 3 times>>730543068>>730545226>>730554204What next, MGS4 again?
>>730540930Depends. You if materials are made with the color filter in mind, then removing it can make them look off. Look at the tree, the leaves look rather strange in the bottom example but it fits better in the top example. They are too bright and desaturated if you disable the filter.So if you disable a color filter you may have to adjust some materials.Additionally color filters serve to set a mood:green - dampblue - it's coldorange - it's warmbrown - it stinksred - scorching hotneutral - fairly comfortable environment
>>730540930Just do what you want. You paid for it.
>>730544686When the game came out I remember a lot of people disliking that piss filter.I think it fits this kind of game more. If it was green or blue instead of yellow, people would love the fuck out of it. Director's cut looks like ass and thank god there's a mod for this.
>>730540930I think a lot of 2000s and early 2010s games experimented with new features like bloom, ambient occlusion, film grain, vignetting, blur, motion blur, lense flair, etc. to a extreme degree, especially with color overlays/filters for specific regions. But it has a degree of cozyness to it, replaying these games and seeing how fucking absurd some of these effects look in stuff like ME2, TW2, TES4, but the games don't feel proper without them. I think we'll be looking at late 2010s and 2020s in the future as clownware too for people somehow not minding the FSR, DLSS, XESS, TAAU, Frame Gen, RT, and other upscaling/ai stuff that's obviously in their prototype stages and both performs and looks like shit with semi-disgust but also semi-curiosity that cavemen people from 2020s could enjoy playing games that are as blurry as that, but also feel like it gives them an artistic vibe when you play RDR2 or CP2077 and everything is just blurry and soft, like a faded image. IMO always play games on PC, with maxed out settings, and that's how your first playthrough should be done. Later you can experiment with mods, but you should have an idea of how the game is actually meant to look first.
>>730578518You're in for a real surprise.
>>730573114>They like grey/brown/tinted bloom and piss games even though it all looked exactly the same and no game was spared that generationThis is just not even remotely close to the truth. Muh piss filter whiners just can't stop with the retarded generalizations and lies, it's like you don't even play gamesBtw the brown filter started on PS2 and many of your beloved games like RE4 had it
>>730578773>another game no one's ever heard ofWow
>>730578778this
>>730555454Difference being most of these games have either flopped or aren't mainstream enough for people to even recognize them. Some of these don't even have the same rainbow faggotry ingame, it's just plastered all over the promotional material and that's about it.A lot of these brown and bloom games were fairly popular. Even Zelda had its own version of that.
>>730542193That zombie looks like Avery Brooks.
>>730576503>why this dark and depressing game about dark and depressing war and aging world has such dark and depressing color palette :(((( why isyn't it colorful like my wholesome Disney movies :((((((Rope.
>>730578839I can keep going. This one leans into both the browns and also the greys at times. Even looks like GTA 4 sometimes given the scenario.
It was an era alright
>>730540930But the third world does have a constant brown dust filter of shit and nigger corpses hanging on the wind.
>>730544686>Human Revolution verged dangerously close to a generic shooterWalking on ice but it pulled it off i suppose.
>>730579494>>730579714>another game no one's ever heard ofYou realize scraping the bottom of the barrel only proves my point
>>730580054>Kane & Lynch>Mercenaries 2These games were not really that unpopular, but I guess you were a toddler back then.
>>730578778>Btw the brown filter started on PS2 and many of your beloved games like RE4 had itNo? RE4 didn't use any filters. It had a normal grunge horror aesthetic
>>730580242nta but RE4 was grey and washed out slop zoom zoom
>>730541979>I didn't like these pages in my novel, so I ripped 'em out and replaced them with my own writing and some images of big titty anime girls.>I improved this painting by scribbling shit on it.>I added some color to this old ass film along with some wicked filter. Now it's actually watchable.
>>730555659Anyon..... People who were old enough to play games back then are probably already in their early twenties
>>730580305Trying too hard.
>>730559954ok
>>730580217>Kane & LynchI've heard the name but I don't know a single soul that actually played it back then>Mercenaries 2I played Mercenaries on PS2, I didn't know there was a sequel for the PS3 gen until this very moment, literally never seen anyone discuss it ever>you're a toddler if you don't know my favorite obscure game from the eraGet off it dude
>>730579714Great game, better than the original and one of the few good open world shooter games.
>>730580523check the game fag
It really depends. Piss filter undoubtedly adds atmosphere if done correctly, and no amount of seething can refute this
>>730580806Where are you even from?Next you'll tell me splinter cell is a niche series nobody knows about. Or Saints Row. Or that nobody played Prototype.
>>730579714Pandemics other game could be attributed to the GREY/brown era of vidya, but i mostly mean grey. However they actually had a real excuse with that other one unlike Gears of War's clusterfuck visuals since it was all very intentionally stylistic and it was visually communicated in a significant way. You probably know what I'm talking about.
>>730564347I don't ever remember her name but she's so hot lolHorror game heroines are always top tier
>>730540930>remove shitty filter>game looks 100000% better
>>730580975You posted something proving yourself wrong tho
>>730582131>proving yourself wrong thonot really. the filters are part of the grunge aesthetic
>>730580975>>730582268Most Wanted looks fucking great with this filter. It makes the already strong dirty underground street racing atmosphere so much stronger
>>730581845looks the same
>>730580054Apparently every time i find an example to show you that I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel. You just won't acknowledge that it was widespread issue for aesthetics and art direction and all looked rather dull and unoriginal because many games just seamlessly blended with each other.
>>730582485You may be color blind, bro.
>>730540930top looks so much better.
>>730540930The pissfilter on all mid-2000's military shooters should start out strong and gradually get weaker as you play through the game, to represent you and your character's adjustment to the harsh circumstances and conditions of your journey...
>>730540930>Is removing the piss filter considered messing whit the artistic vision of the developerYes, and once upon a time I did that for a few games, but I realized it fucks with too many intended visual subtleties.If I really can't stand the way a game looks, I just find something else to play. There's way too many games out there nowadays anyway.
>>730582516You could look at a list of every game ever released for this generation and find 500 games without a yellow filter, so I don't know what the point of this exercise is. Your sample including a bunch no name games shows it's completely worthless>all looked rather dull and unoriginal because many games just seamlessly blended with each other.Plenty of games with color filters like Most Wanted, Fallout 3, MGS4, etc. have instantly recognizeable aesthetics. The games that were forgotten would have always been forgotten, with or without the filters
>>730540930That mod is the definition of soul vs soulless.
>>730555986But removing the filter is how we got BG3
Brown&Bloom already had a fitting sendoff
>>730540930It worked for Resident Evil 5 because it captured how much of a piss and shithole notSomalia is.
>>730544686Another game teetering on close to golden Jensen. Only at select moments though and it's not often enough to classify as such. It just has all of the most extreme PISS elements aside from the brown/grey.
>>730583730>reddit:the line
I miss the piss filter era, at least it wasn’t omega gay like games are today.
>playing fallout 3 right now>love the piss filterYeah, it gives it that feel the other fallouts don't have. Literally removing it is one of the most popular mods so It's proof there's tons of retards. It's supposed to be depressing and "greenish". Also, the mgs3 remake looks TERRIBLE and wrong without the legacy (piss) filter. Seriously, the forests look brown instead of green without it.
>>730584952nah MGS3 always looked dogshit and was straight downgrade going from MGS2, i am glad the piss filter is gone, though you can re-enable it in the settings.
>>730584952fallout 3 has puke filter, new vegas uses piss filter
For me, it's blue filter
>>730585319Your opinion is absolutely terrible and you should feel bad.
>>730540930>artistic visionYou retards consume mass-produced products and think about artistic vision?Those decisions were all made by marketing teams following data and trends. It's literally like YouTube algorithms making "content creators" all act the same and produce the same shit. Following algorithms to optimize sales is not an artistic activity.If you're concerned with artistic vision, first of all, you won't be consuming AAAs from mega-corporations that sell games globally, you'll be consuming obscure games made by small teams and published in some corner of the Internet's underworld.
>>730585913no MGS2 shits all over 3 and 3tourists should be ashamed.
>>730571748If you have the basic spatial awareness to have no problems with tank controls, you can easily get used to (random) camera cuts.
>>730583545I'm thinking I'm resting my case on this one. Although i do have more examples.
>>730586876This isn't even a yellow filter dude. You can literally see a gray sky on top and the bottom just looks like a sunset
>>730540930Honestly the "piss filter" worked for RE5. Its Africa, Its hot as fuck, the sun is burning down so it makes everything look sun bleached, and also not to mention the entire place is being infected, diseased. It's NOT supposed to look like a normal day where everything is fine. There's a deadly virus going around that's making everyone sick. The place is unsanitary and disease ridden. The "piss filter" complements the tone and atmosphere of the game well.
>>730540930OP is a liar, colour me surprised!
>>730578778notice how over half of these games are from japan
volumetric nog
>>730587248Gay fucking color grading on the top and it looks generic as fuck, one of your run of the mill console shooters post processing going on right there, overlaps with a few.The bottom being brown is only a a bonus. Pretending Payne 3 doesn't have piss filter is the greatest mental gymnastics I've seen.
>red planet>is actually yellow:O
>>730551127soul vs souless
>>730576313And which one is closer to the actual cels?
>>730587291Oh boy that was just not a good pick at all. And a lot of these are already fairly color drained as it stands. Less colorful than both 5th and 6th gens in numerous ways.
>>730540930piss filter looked good
>>730581845Looks worse.
I like old fog I like old filters.This is literally lost technology now.
>>730587906If it had a yellow filter you wouldn't be able to see the teal and green colors on Max's shirt so vividly >>730586876 , this is what an actual yellow filter looks like >>730584208And now you're shifting from ''muh piss filter'' to just whining about any game that has a drab color palette>WHY DOESN'T THIS GRITTY CRIME THRILLER LOOK LIKE SUPER MARIO??
>>730588689>one image out of a bunchOk. So do you think no game should ever have muted colors at all, even when it suits the game?>Less colorful than both 5th and 6th gens in numerous ways.6th gen started the use of color filters like these dude
>>730583730Tactical shooters aren't ever gonna die so they can't effectively be sent off. The developers of that game could have built a legitimate series but instead they just wrote a generic war bad plot and hence will be forgotten about long after. When i said legitimate i do say that loosely because they designed cover shooter shit instead of shaping it's story around GOOD tacticool gameplay. They're not as talented as a lot of milsim devs working today. They just used lazy design as a vehicle to bring their story to life but if the result is shallow then it's shit and won't ever leave a mark. God the only moron i can remember shilling for that game was TotalBiscuit. Mainly because he had no clue about good games in that field.
>>730540930both these screenshots look abysmal trash game
piss filter: 1 HRT faggots: 0
>>730540930The piss filter is absolute dogshit. I hated it when it was all the rage and I hate it now.
>>730541630The fog should be a toggle just like motion blur, depth of field, chromatic eyecancer etc.>>730543068Calling it an artistic choice is always a joke because it's pure trendchasing. Just like with every movie looking like shit in the exact same way since the mid-2010s including new home releases of old movies.
>>730542193God I wish I was him... Sheva is so beautiful, she's in my top 3
>>730576767Men I want to play GTA 4 again but I'm already playing other stuff
>>730592042You're a retard. Plenty of games where color filters are an artistic choice and work well
>>730591621Whatever you tell yourself CODtoddler. But it always looked like abysmal dog shit.
>>730550179based turkey enjoyer
>>730540930The piss filter make sense with RE5 since they clearly took some inspiration from Black Hawk down for the early part of the game
>>730571407I believe the war with the salt monsters was only a few years before the game no?
>>730557484>home console/pc gamingjust say video games you fucking retard. Mobile isn't even real video games so why even bother. Retard.
>>730540930People don't really care artistic vision, RE5 piss removal mods are still the most popular
>>730540930it almost always looks worse as the assets were made with it in mind
The piss/brown/grey/grey bloom tinting never looked good at any point. The games that resembled this actually looked like shit on release. God who is popularizing this terrible opinion? i bet it's that faggot Gmanlives. The most stupid motherfucker alive.
>>730593714abysmal dogshit is your opinion CODtroon
You can track the origin of piss filter with mainstream media being obsessed with promoting middle eastern conflicts at the time.
>>730540930Why doesn’t Chris simply impregnate Sheva?
>Early-2000s war films and post-9/11 media established a desaturated, gritty visual language that developers wanted to emulate, and the PS3/Xbox 360 generation’s widespread adoption of programmable shaders and full-screen post-processing made that look cheap and safe to apply across an entire game. In Unreal Engine 3 specifically, early HDR pipelines tended to blow out saturated colors, pushing artists toward muted palettes, while the default lighting and tone-mapping models favored warm, yellow-brown highlights and cooler greenish shadows, naturally steering scenes into the now-familiar brown/green range. Because UE3 was widely licensed, these technical defaults propagated across many studios, and the massive success of Call of Duty 4 commercially validated the aesthetic, leading publishers to standardize it as the visual shorthand for “realistic” and “mature” games.
>>730594676he is asexual
You ready to game? gamerbros? hope you all have a copy of what I'm playing. I can't remember the name but you should be able to figure it out by the way that it looks.
>>730591621itagaki and team ninja's entire catalogue have more color than your favorite games you inbred cowadooty toddler
>>730594648>>730594761>it's because da war and america or somethingWhere did you get this retarded shit. I can assure you Japanese developers in 2009 weren't thinking about muh 9/11
I think retarded jeets do this shit in remasters because they don’t understand western color theory. The idea that darker washed out tones can convey an atmospheric feeling is alien to them.It’s just Bollywoodism
>>730595457Uhhh ninjabros.... what is THIS??
>>730595465>I can assure you Japanese developers in 2009 weren't thinking about muh 9/11You are trying to argue this point with such a westernized franchise like RE.
>>730540930Yeah, maybe it messes with "le artistic vision". But look at the fucking green filter of Fallout 3 and tell me that shit isn't nasty.
>>730576503MGS4 was obviously "inspired" by Blood Diamond but IDK why they didn't copy the clean, filterless look of it
>>730597504radiation is green
>>730589674Drakengard 1 doesn't have a filter, and most locations have a normal color palette. The starting era has a depressing color palette because it's an abandoned wasteland with one major castle where Furiae was being held, far away from civilization, because she's that important to the world at large
>>730598007radiation is invisible
>>730597504>left Instantly recognizeable>rightLooks like some shovelware on Steam you've never heard of
>>730598359both look like shovelware
>>730552594Soule
I'm a fan of this sort of look
CoDkiddies and BF dudebros enhanced by the doritos pope are equivalent to pozzed cockloving Celeste speedrunners, I'm just going to point that out as a fact
No game with a piss filter had an artistic vision. They were mindlessly chasing a trend.
>>730600725soulless
Also the reason why Bayo 2 shits all over Bayo 1 despite being on a handheld.
>>730601126>Let's replace dark gothic art style with fucking super marion sunshine shitYuck. Don't even let me start on how they downgraded the combat system, weapons, enemies, bosses, and mechanics to absolute hell. Super disappointing sequel to the best action game ever.
>>730600873no? developers said in interviews and commentaries that the color choice was always an artistic choice. all of the games in your pic ware talking place in dark gritty worlds and the art style reflected that
>>730595105Not gonna play into your post but it's funny how DICE made two banger multiplayers in a row MoH and Battlefield yet only BF lived on. BF3's aesthetics were straight out of the MoH 2010 reboot.
>>730540930Couldn't give less of a fuck, I'll remove the piss-filter. I'm tired of these retards who are nostalgic for 7th gen, as it was fucking awful. RE5 in particular was an enormous step down from 4, and anything to make it more tolerable is appreciated. There was no "artistic vision" for that turd - they should have got Kamiya or Mikami to make it before they left.
>>730555297Mt. Chiliad looks a lot smaller than I remember.
>>730595681/////////////////////thread
>>730584952Fallout gets a pass because in the lore the whole atmosphere is fucked up from the nukes so it makes sense the sky and tint are all wrong.
>>730602087>BF3's aesthetics were straight out of the MoH 2010 rebootno, not really, it's closer to bc2 aesthetic if anything
>>730603407>it's closer to bc2 aesthetic if anythinganon you can't be serious. pic related looks like the prealpha for BF3, blue UI and everything
>>730598359Fallout 3 IS shovelware; green tint or not. But that's besides the point im tryna make
>>730598007Fallout 3 occurs 200 YEARS after the bombs fell, not 20 MINUTES.Besides, radiation is invisible to the human eye, so there's that
>>730602642>RE5 in particular was an enormous step down from 4,brown or zoomer?5 is better than 4 in every way
>>730604221But you're not looking at it through a human eye, you're seeing it through the camera lens, so it shows up green
>>730604695Ok nigger, you got me this time.
>>730604434Maybe if you're a mouth breathing retard. Everything is worse - level design, enemies, bosses, weapons are all shit in 5. The level design is sub 80 IQ shit where you're running around flipping switches just to contrived more gameplay for the second player.There's zero atmosphere or consideration of pacing. Weapons all feel like pea shooters, and the gore was significantly downgraded. Zombies with guns was trash.The bosses in 5 are especially bad. They're all gimmicky and poorly designed. The El Gigante fight is a perfect example. Then you have awful rail shooter sections.It was clearly made by the B team (the retards who ported RE4 to PS2 to be specific) with a moron at the helm.
>>730604898so much seethe kek>>730605180the bosses are easily the worst part of 4 too, all are gimmicky as well.
>>730551894>vg cats is almost 20 years oldbros....
>>730605234The worst bosses in 4 (U3 in particular) are better than the best boss fights in 5 lmao. It's not even debatable. The quick time events and set pieces are emphasized far more in 5, with horrible environmental design for the arenas as well.
>>730604221>white women when they have to go 5 minutes without fucking a dog
>>730595691yeah a tomb better be either brown or gray
>>730605462Adding to this, 5's fights are basically like the U3 fight over and over - if the QTE setpiece shit from the opening section were strewn all over EVERY fight. Then all the horrible rail shooter or turret sections that are specifically design to just waste your time.
>>730579373It's ugly, that's the problem. There's a trillion ways to convey a dark atmosphere without smearing piss and shit all over the camera lens - it would just take a good director to do it, which Kojima isn't.
>>730588689colours means ALL COLOURS not only pink, yellow, bron, white and brown. Don't be dishonest anon.
>>730606503>It's uglyNo shit? That's the point. The idea is to represent the dark and depressing world. It's meant to be unpleasant. Making it look nice or cool goes against the entire point. It's called art, but gamers don't care about art. They just want cool digital toys that entertain them and make them feel nice.
>>730606807No, don't try and gaslight us. It's a fucking hideous game (as stated by many posters) don't try and intellectualize.
>>730606807zoomers will never refute this
>>730606697it was going so well until everyone decided to copy gears and cod
>>730606807Ah, so an image shaped by technical restrictions at the time and not the reality of what those ruins looked like? As stated before - you can absolutely convey a dark atmosphere without the piss and shit filter. I guess your brain is too simple to envision that.You do realize there are plenty of dark, atmospheric films made before the 2000's era of lazy, ugly color filters eh?
>>730606807based millenials fumming like the troons they are
>>730607238Weird thing to say, as millenials are the ones who grew up with movies with lazy color filters. Go watch some pre-2000 atmospheric cinema. Jacob's ladder for example.
>>730606807>>730579373Go watch an actual war movie like Come and See. Was the atmosphere and misery of that movie suboptimal because it didn't have piss and shit on the camera? I doubt you'd even respond because you're that much of a troglodyte and already realize you've lost this shit argument.
>>730540930>artistic visionLOLLMAO
>>730607131Oh yeah. City ruins are so colorful all the time. I also like how you completely ignored my entire argument. Filters that you hate so much existed way before the 2000s for your knowledge, and were used in a lot of movies like Saving Private Ryan that were universally praised for it. It is possible to make atmospheric dark films without filters but it's never as effective. If you want to make something visually depressing, you must actually commit to it.
>>730607623>Chooses the most colorless war movie ever as his exampleWhat did the retard mean by this?
>>730607764As I said, watch a real war movie like Come and See. I'm waiting. The fact you're using commercial slop like Saving Private Ryan as an example is fucking hilarious.
>>730607307No thank you. 2000s movies look great and super atmospheric thanks to the filters you old primitve boomer ass hates so much.
>>730607816Completely different from the piss and shit filter example of MGS4, or Resident Evil 5 - which this thread is specifically about.Do you think moving goalposts supports your argument? That image you posted has more color than the entirety of those two games, and this retard's example >>730607764 of Saving Private Ryan. The other thing is that Come and See is a beautiful film, something that those two games are not.
>>730607971Maybe if you're a chimpanzee whose watched 5 movies in your life
>>730541320Imagine being exposed as a Mass Effect Legendary Edition developer on / v /
>>730607996Holy cope.
Shoot all /tv/ vermins
>>730608156I'm glad LE got rid of those ugly effects in 2
>>730608201Nope, it's called being correct. Gotta love how you specifically have to dance around the piss and shit color comparison as well. Your deflection isn't gonna work zoomie. You must think Saw, the DVD versions of The Matrix or that shit LOTR version are peak atmosphere. Only a caveman would think digital coloring is even remotely comparable to real cinema.
>>730608336Do you ever stop yapping?
>>730608649Do you? You've never needed to reply. Now go watch some good movies.
>>730606697What game is bottom left?
>>730609319Probably a Dead or Alive or Virtua Fighter game.
>>730607868Literal propaganda is a real ww2 movie? Lmao
>>730608243You mean the stereotypical Unreal Engine 3 high-contrast filter? Yeah I don't think it was ever a very smart choice. But LE got rid of all the lights. All of the deliberately placed light sources in cutscenes meant to create a specific atmosphere were replaced by dull auto-calculated area lights. Because the developers were clueless hacks who thought that just because a piece of tech is more recent, then anything it creates must be superior no matter what.
>>730594076Without going to deep into spoilers, the salt monster incident happened in 2003 and the first scene of the game still has it "snowing" salt in Summer 2053. However, there's a time skip of about 1300-1400 years (Depending if you play Gestalt or Replicant), where it shows the salt snow has stopped.Basically, there's a HUGE timegap between when the Watcher, Caim and Angelus die and when Nier Replicant/Gestalt start for real. There's even a seafront city that has a relatively sublime climate, so the salt snow couldn't have any major effects on the ecosystem by that point. I just think they put the filter on for mood related purposes.
>>730610030works on my machine thanks to mods
>>730578778When will God of War III and Lost Odyssey work well on emulators?
>>730540930what about the reverse?
>>730540930>364 posts>no one talking about the Doom 2016 piss filterI knew nu/v/ didn't play games.
